The Different Species, Histories and Hierarchy of the Ars Goetia! Helluva Boss Breakdown & Analysis!

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  • The Ars Goetia have a long and complex history, that could never fit in one normal sized video. Today, we have taken the important elements of four of our previous videos on Stolas' Job, the geography of the Pride Ring, and everything we know about the various Ars Goetia members.
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  • @CartoonUniverse
    @CartoonUniverse  2 роки тому +175

    Come hang out on Discord with Deepcut:
    discord.gg/4BSzhnhAPF

  • @cassie6146
    @cassie6146 2 роки тому +3697

    A minor detail that makes Stolas's childhood even sadder is that none of his seemingly multiple siblings showed up to celebrate his birthday and apparently none of them play or read books with him either. You'd think he'd be on good terms with at least one of them, but apparently not.

    • @mackthompson616
      @mackthompson616 2 роки тому +86

      IKR

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie 2 роки тому +79

      That's true.

    • @punpun5720
      @punpun5720 2 роки тому +336

      They probably don’t even know he exists

    • @sheenable.1619
      @sheenable.1619 2 роки тому +171

      Stolas’s childhood is so sad, you can see how it reflects on his adulthood

    • @tbphillips9649
      @tbphillips9649 2 роки тому +47

      Bruh never thought of that

  • @driddick7361
    @driddick7361 2 роки тому +637

    Vivzie has claimed her story wouldn't be deeply rooted in real life, but thiz video has proven how much research her team devoted and it is beautiful.

  • @SpitfiretheCat16
    @SpitfiretheCat16 2 роки тому +1053

    Was Stolas' song to Octavia really that literal? It always struck me more as just showing her theatrical visions of a _possible_ and rather extreme future, just for the sake of calming her after the nightmare- no matter what kind of nightmares she has, no matter what happens to him, to Hell, to all of existence itself, she will still be alright.

    • @dr_edward_richtofen69
      @dr_edward_richtofen69 2 роки тому +83

      Yeaaa I agree. I think he took the song way too literal

    • @kaistudios5536
      @kaistudios5536 2 роки тому +48

      ​@@dr_edward_richtofen69
      Well, _sometimes these crazy theories are correct._ Take *Game Theory, for example.* There have been various times where MatPats' insane theories come to fruition.

    • @4spurta
      @4spurta 2 роки тому +8

      Agreed

    • @alexanderhenby1362
      @alexanderhenby1362 2 роки тому +49

      Well, we found out in the 1st episode of season two that Stolas was married off to Stella in order to have a prophetic child to be the harbinger of SOMETHING. That song could be what she is meant to prophesies. Which would make since for the Ar Goetia Stolas, who supposedly teaches mortals astronomy and herbology.

    • @terrafletcher1930
      @terrafletcher1930 2 роки тому +26

      It always bothered me that Stolas sang louder as Octavia was drifting off, I'm like, "Shut up! She's asleep!" XD great song though and I agree, I feel like that's something they can pick and choose if that want it to be cannon later.

  • @Katzztar
    @Katzztar 2 роки тому +216

    Even if Stolas is giving an actual prophesy in his song "you will be okay" in S1 Ep2, it is NOT shown with that star's destruction.
    Vivzi has confirmed that it wasn't a illusion or vision, but instead Stolas had teleported to a dying star system.
    His knowledge of Astronomy would give him knowledge of what stage a star's life is, so he would know if a random one was being destroyed that night and the grimore allowed him to teleport to it.

  • @Child_of_Nyx
    @Child_of_Nyx 2 роки тому +1781

    Can we just talk about the fact that normal peahens (female peacocks) are actually brown with iridescent green feathers on their necks? Stella and her brother are actually based on the rarer white form. (My family has raised many peacocks throughout the years)
    Edit: I didn't see the other comment correcting them when I posted this

    • @hexed_spirittowwerzyo3319
      @hexed_spirittowwerzyo3319 2 роки тому +44

      Woah I didn't know that! Thanks for the info. 🍞👍

    • @0valeyes
      @0valeyes 2 роки тому +37

      Yeah but the picture of her younger self almost make her look more like a Hawk.

    • @Scarshadow666
      @Scarshadow666 2 роки тому +48

      That's a cool fact! It reminds me of a comment I read for one of the Over the Garden Wall episodes that some countries consider white peacocks as a symbol of death. I wonder if some of the Ars Goetia royalty get interpreted differently by humans in different countries for centuries every time they go topside (via syncretism)?

    • @littlecookie366
      @littlecookie366 2 роки тому +4

      YES THANK YOU!!!

    • @fatgecko1616
      @fatgecko1616 2 роки тому +25

      I'm sure your right about Andrealphis being leucistic, but I personally believe Stella is a swan. Mostly because of her black ceres and fully white colors.

  • @w1ld_gl1tch
    @w1ld_gl1tch 2 роки тому +768

    Anyone else theorizing that Blitzø might've only got with Verosika(my bad if spelled wrong) cause he might've known about the crystals and attempted to take them from her too? Could've been the same situation he's in with Stolas repeating itself now.
    Blitzø also said that his job was killing people before stealing the grimoire, maybe breaking up with her required Blitzø to find another way to earth aka Stolas' grimoire.

    • @CartoonUniverse
      @CartoonUniverse  2 роки тому +136

      Good theory!

    • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
      @Wanten-the-stormtrooper 2 роки тому +50

      I'm not so sure about that one; he could've just swiped a crystal from any succubus off the street if that was the case. I'm sure Hell has plenty of pickpockets around...

    • @w1ld_gl1tch
      @w1ld_gl1tch 2 роки тому +40

      @@Wanten-the-stormtrooper Maybe he tried that but it never worked out till he got to Verosika, and they ended up in the same situation that Blitzø was in with Stolas like I said.

    • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
      @Wanten-the-stormtrooper 2 роки тому +13

      @@w1ld_gl1tch That is possible... Guess we'll just have to see how things unfold at this point.

    • @terrafletcher1930
      @terrafletcher1930 2 роки тому +23

      Yeah, I've actually been posting that too. I had thought Stolas realized that when he was looking at the book and felt completely betrayed instead of him wanting to give Blitz a crystal as an apology for making sex a contract and seeing if without the contract that Blitz comes back. Either way, this is letting Blitz's business necessities weigh so much on the relationship. He could still give him a crystal as a, 'get out of my life' way, or not give him the crystal as a, 'screw you, you heartless imp', sorta way.

  • @FlowerCr0wns
    @FlowerCr0wns 2 роки тому +372

    Something funny about being a catholic and watching Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel is that, I actually haven’t heard of many of these demons 😅

    • @---fb4mg
      @---fb4mg 2 роки тому +80

      That's because they're essentially "non-cannon" now in the religious scheme of things.
      There are a lot of versions of The Bible. It's a lot easier to convert people when you provide them something similar to what they already believe. Many of the demons/spirits existed in local beliefs so they get added to the version of the bible predominant in that area then scripted out after larger review.
      Kind of like how Lucifer and Satan where 2 different beings before they eventually became one being.
      Or how Jesus' Birthdate was moved to December 25th to align with the winter Solstice festivals and other pagan rituals being held.
      Or changing the wedding gown colors from Blue (a sign of purity and a connection to Mary) to white to match the growing popularity after Queen Victoria wore one.

    • @ellasorrow4stolas445
      @ellasorrow4stolas445 2 роки тому +46

      Ex- Catholic here. I never heard of Stolas until this show happen. I have known many saints and angels. They don't talk much about hell.

    • @alericantonelli4656
      @alericantonelli4656 Рік тому +28

      because the church wants to limit knowledge pf that which they deem "dangerous".

    • @Hoshimaru57
      @Hoshimaru57 Рік тому +28

      To quote Palpatine: “I’m not surprised, it’s not something the Jedi would have told you. The dark side is a path to many abilities, some considered unnatural.”
      In other words, do you really think the (legendarily tightly wound) Catholics want anything to do with this stuff or want anyone wanting anything to do with it (assuming they even know)?

    • @Your_Normal_Human
      @Your_Normal_Human Рік тому +9

      Hahaha same! I am Catholic but I still love to watch Helluva Boss

  • @ovni2295
    @ovni2295 2 роки тому +101

    You mentioned something about Stolas being reborn if he were killed that jogged an interesting bit of thinking. I don't think Octavia's name is actually Octavia. I think that's a nickname! As Octavia is the designated heir to take over if Stolas dies, I believe her name is *also* Stolas, and she's the eighth demon to be born to the role (hence the nickname Octavia). That would make Dad Stolas the seventh, which is a rather significant number.

  • @irishspartanstudios
    @irishspartanstudios 2 роки тому +130

    What might be cool and hint that Stolas isn't as shortsighted or naive as he seems, Andrelaphis (or whatever) being promoted to Stolas' position only for Stolas to ominously go "good luck staring into the abyss, I would not blame you for blinking" would hint at a larger thing Stolas hasn't told the rest of the family.

  • @SpitfiretheCat16
    @SpitfiretheCat16 2 роки тому +267

    If Beelzebub is a "Queen" of the Ars Goetia as Bael/Baal, it would certainly fit well with what appears to be a bee/honey theme for her realm and products.

    • @SpitfiretheCat16
      @SpitfiretheCat16 2 роки тому +2

      @@Zak-tk8wv Sorry, I'm not a cyber weeb.

    • @Zak-tk8wv
      @Zak-tk8wv 2 роки тому +2

      @@SpitfiretheCat16 wat

    • @BLAKESCRIBBLES
      @BLAKESCRIBBLES 11 місяців тому +3

      The fact that it was bee/honey themed,,

  • @Steve_SBU
    @Steve_SBU 2 роки тому +340

    I have a prediction with how Stolitz will turn out this season, with what we saw from Asmodean crystals it appears that Stolas is young to make one for blitz so he doesn’t need to see him for the book anymore to get to earth, stolas will do this because he doesn’t want to force blitz to do things he doesn’t want to do and it appears from his perspective that blitz doesn’t really like him in that way anymore, while blitz actually does but can’t process emotions correctly, which means when stolas gives him the crystal itll come off as stolas really thinking he was just an “impish little play thing” and feel awful that his feelings were validated and then out of anger and resentment he takes Striker up on his deal again to kill stolas because it’s blitz so ofc he misinterprets stolas’ feelings and both are too in their own heads to actually talk about their feelings, this then causes some big climax where it either leaves them completely broken up, stolas dying only for blitz to find out what he actually felt, or blitz finding out before stolas is killed and then backstabs Striker, which then in turn causes them to FINALLY talk and work things out, I put my money more on the last option, this will probably be no where near the exact way it goes but it’d be cool if any of my ideas get shown

    • @jellybean1528
      @jellybean1528 2 роки тому +24

      The angst

    • @---fb4mg
      @---fb4mg 2 роки тому +14

      I always just figured Stolas plan was to just ditch his life in Hell and try hiding with Blitz in the human realm.

    • @Cecilian_Does_Art
      @Cecilian_Does_Art Рік тому +4

      STAP THE ANGST IT SCARES ME

    • @user-tb1to1ib4w
      @user-tb1to1ib4w 4 дні тому

      .....how the hell did you predict their arc culmination in season 2 so accurately

    • @Steve_SBU
      @Steve_SBU 4 дні тому +1

      @@user-tb1to1ib4w I completely forgot I commented this, damn I really hit that first half perfectly so far lmao

  • @StormyDeltarune
    @StormyDeltarune 2 роки тому +128

    I don't think Stolas sleeping with Blitz hurt Stella but may have hurt her social standing and that's why she wants him killed

  • @slushsloosh
    @slushsloosh Рік тому +36

    just realized that the reason stolas probably invited the imps to the harvest moon festival is because he probably heard stella call about the assassination and trusted blitz would protect him

  • @Scoutter
    @Scoutter 2 роки тому +197

    My idea with the heir and the ranks is, unless killed by angelic weapons they get reborn but with each "Kill" they lose one level of rank till they are so unimportant and powerless they can be marked on the annually "Extermination List". That at least would explain why they need heirs if they still could get reborn. Every rebirth costs power. And Power is something you either get granted by given/taken from others or being born with.

    • @kenziebalhatchet3918
      @kenziebalhatchet3918 2 роки тому +28

      For me I think it could be that they have enough regeneration like abilities that only heaven weapons can kill them as any other weapons wouldn’t be able to stop their healing

    • @Scoutter
      @Scoutter 2 роки тому +19

      @@kenziebalhatchet3918
      Maybe "lower" angelic weapons -Downgrade- the demon instead of kill it? It was topic before that not every angel could kill every demon. So you need a high enough angel to kill someone like Stolas, Rank-wise maybe.

    • @kenziebalhatchet3918
      @kenziebalhatchet3918 2 роки тому +3

      @@Scoutter probably

  • @jojosparkels6962
    @jojosparkels6962 2 роки тому +208

    I don’t think the entire thing is birds. I think high power familys make up lots of them thus the birds. But there’s more different ones like how stolas father can turn into different things before picking an owl.

    • @toondrake5964
      @toondrake5964 2 роки тому +28

      I think it might just be the pride ring Goetians are birds, hence Asmodeus being more monstrous and only really having a rooster torso and feathering, as well as Paimon shifting his forms before picking the owl.

  • @hermescarraro3393
    @hermescarraro3393 2 роки тому +232

    Actually.
    Asmodeus is described having a rooster tail and rooster legs in some descriptions.
    So, making a rooster inspired design is kinda accurate.
    Not sure were his dragon steed went tho

    • @cassie6146
      @cassie6146 2 роки тому +27

      Maybe he has a pet dragon?

    • @straneas3099
      @straneas3099 2 роки тому +16

      @@cassie6146 I want that to be canon so bad-

    • @mlb-euphoria4029
      @mlb-euphoria4029 2 роки тому +21

      @@cassie6146 yes maybe the dragon hangs around at fizz's and asmodeus apartment

    • @kdog177
      @kdog177 2 роки тому +17

      nah, fizz IS the dragon steed ;)

    • @hermescarraro3393
      @hermescarraro3393 2 роки тому +8

      @@kdog177
      Fizzarolli turns into a dragon mecha

  • @Katzztar
    @Katzztar Рік тому +29

    That star dying that Stolas & child Octavia saw was not tied to her birth. Vivzi confirmed that Stolas used his knowledge of the stars to know what star was dying in current time then opened a portal and teleported there to witness it as he sung his lullaby to his daughter.

  • @stevenrippo6089
    @stevenrippo6089 2 роки тому +65

    One thing that we need to keep in mind when doing speculation on helluva boss is that it does not exist in a vacuum. It is set in the same world as hasbin hotel and runs parallel to it. Stolas said in his song to his daughter that the seven rings would collapse but she would be okay. We know that Charlie is seeking to find a way to redeem sinners and they may find it possible to redeem a demon as well allowing them into heaven so it could be possible for Octavia to be safe in heaven when hell begins to collapse (possibly caused by Charlie’s plan succeeding to well). Thoughts on this theory?

    • @Mc_Qiqi
      @Mc_Qiqi 3 місяці тому

      I’d say it’s solid, except for the part where sinners mainly remain in the pride ring. Even if Charlie’s plan works too well, it would only mainly affect the pride ring unless imps from other rings moved to Pride or something. And even then, the chaos would probably only last a few years or so before everything is back to normal.
      Also since Hazbin is technically owned by A24, so they would need permission to include Hazbin lore to Helluva Boss.

  • @vamp567
    @vamp567 2 роки тому +130

    Stella for sure wouldn't blink an eye to having her own daughter killed. She's had 0 on screen interaction with Octavia, but should she die?
    Well then Stella gets to play the grieving mother. And we know she loves to act.

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 2 роки тому +82

    Honestly I like the idea that each demon would owned certain territory in each specific country’s depending on certain family’s. Also it make sense why Stolas is a bird, since it’s likely His father randomly chose what species his son was going to be or chose a bird likely due to fate.🤔🐱

  • @Abbywise32
    @Abbywise32 Рік тому +12

    Stolas told Octavia that he hadn't taught her transportation level spells...yet.
    That intimates that Stolas is in fact training her to be his successor

  • @rainbowquartz9513
    @rainbowquartz9513 2 роки тому +196

    I get that asmodeus is part of the ars goetia but I don’t know if the other 7 deadly princes are 100% related to the ars goetia as a whole

    • @pkmist2164
      @pkmist2164 2 роки тому +30

      the irl Ars Goetia still refers to Lucifer as the top dog in hell, hence why the comment about Paimon being the most loyal to him.
      For Beelzebub, that depends if Hazbinverse refers to them as the same demon as Bael/Baal.
      Now for Belphegor, there is an unexpected but purely speculatory explanation for his connection to Goetia. This speculation is assuming Beelzebub is the same demon as Bael/Baal.
      Both Bael and Belphegor have roots to back around the Assyrian empire and were both worshiped by the Israelites. Belphegor was known as Ba'al-Peor, while Bael was known as Ba'al Hadad. Due to being around the same area, it's speculative that perhaps both were the same entity.
      So I can see how perhaps maybe Bael and Belphegor are siblings in the show. However, unlike Beel, Belphegor did not assume a position in the Goetia hierarchy prior to becoming the Prince of Sloth.

    • @fqck1999
      @fqck1999 2 роки тому +6

      Boy i cant wait for what will Astaroth will look like and his relationship on Charlie, since Astaroth HATES Lucifer because they fall from heaven and Believes he was wrongfully judge by god. Astaroth also known to see all the secrets from the past and the future so he might have time powers.

  • @bobbyserrano3872
    @bobbyserrano3872 2 роки тому +115

    I personally believe that Andrealphus would possibly betray Stella because I can imagine him even more power hungry than her desperately wanting to take Stolas's place I can imagine him being like Scar from Lion King that he is very willing to kill both his brother in law and his niece in order to take the throne

    • @-TheMachineGod-
      @-TheMachineGod- 2 роки тому +8

      I am actually kinda disappointed that they changed Stella from a morally ambiguous character who was hurt by Stolas cheating on her to a one dimensional villain who can’t be relatable, I suspect they did this to place Stolas firmly in the “good guy” camp and so nobody could make the argument that Stella was a “good guy”

    • @bobbyserrano3872
      @bobbyserrano3872 2 роки тому +13

      @@-TheMachineGod- I mean we still don't know much about Stella's backstory pretty much explaining why she's like this

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 2 роки тому +39

    I always had more of the vibe that Stella is a Secretary Bird, it's the lashes.

    • @cassie6146
      @cassie6146 2 роки тому

      One day we might see if she has the signature legs for days.

    • @johannaweichsel3602
      @johannaweichsel3602 2 роки тому

      Except for the lack of a long neck, she reminds me of a swan. Those fuckers are mean.

    • @NightmareVixen12art
      @NightmareVixen12art 2 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @KeaveMind
      @KeaveMind 5 місяців тому +1

      And the viciousness

  • @AshValentine.
    @AshValentine. 2 роки тому +39

    Maybe Loona showing to be good at killing in the last few episodes is because Stolas is going to give IMP a crystal to do their business. If she no longer needs to handle the Grimoire, she may start joing them on bounties

    • @sagrawolf
      @sagrawolf 2 роки тому +9

      Possibly as blitzo was actually surprised how good at killing she was and she hardly used any weapons largely using her mouth

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 4 місяці тому +2

    Can I just say, child Stolas is one of the most precious things I’ve ever seen, especially when he got all giddy about the star book.

  • @spineldinrebrick9882
    @spineldinrebrick9882 2 роки тому +17

    I was thinking, since there are Nine Kings in Ars Goetia, what if each king has their own family, and in Stolas' case, Paimon's branch of the family is mainly bird themed. Maybe Stella and Stolas were related by some chance, like third cousins given how Paimon has so many children. IDk, just a thought

  • @thelemoncoffee
    @thelemoncoffee 2 роки тому +23

    Had a thought when you mentioned Baal and Beelzeub being one in the same in some mythology. Seeing as it seems to be implyed Beelzebub is two entities "Beelze _and_ her bub" perhaps Beelze is the princess the Guttonly ring, and her husband is Baal the Ars Goetia member: they together make Beelzebub. two birds one stone

  • @Queen_of_chaos
    @Queen_of_chaos 2 роки тому +15

    I honestly believe that Stolas resembles a lot like his mother and it’s a shame we don’t get much of a backstory of her.

  • @charmednight7524
    @charmednight7524 2 роки тому +20

    Honestly so far the more we see of Stella the more I think she may be very capable of having her daughter killed. 1: It would hurt Stolas (which she already admitted she loves tormenting him) 2: If she and her brother are power hungry enough they could see Octavia as an obstacle for her brother getting a higher rank 3: Octavia could get in the way of Striker trying to kill Stolas and Stella already said she doesn’t care who he has to go through she just wants Stolas dead 4: If Octavia were to find out/be suspicious of her mothers plot I could see Stella putting a hit on her to just to cover her own butt 5: Since Octavia is the cautionary heir if something bad were to happen to her it could be used as an excuse to keep Stolas trapped in the marriage in order to make another heir to replace her
    I obviously could be way off but so far Stella is giving me the vibes of someone who doesn’t really love her child and only had her because it was her “job” with that in mind she may even see her as replaceable

    • @alissasteinbach9945
      @alissasteinbach9945 4 місяці тому

      Andrealphus also pointed out that if Stolas died, Stella wouldn't get anything because of Octavia being his heir. Just another reason for them to take Octavia out as well (either with or without Stella's approval/knowledge)

  • @AkinaHellsing555
    @AkinaHellsing555 2 роки тому +17

    I really liked that this was a longer video since I love your Hellouva Boss theories! I think it’s possible to go either way when it comes to what will happen with Octavia since Stella doesn’t seem to care about her from what we’ve seen so far so until we see them interacting together it’s only an assumption based off what we’ve seen from the current episode. Her brother we can only make assumptions but if he’s anything like her if not worse then it is possible he wouldn’t be against hiring someone to take out Stolas like she did if it means he gets the position since Octavia isn’t experienced yet. To make sure he gets to keep it I wouldn’t put it past him to hire someone to take out Octavia even if it means betraying Stella if she does care for her daughter even a little.

  • @basically_dead_inside2514
    @basically_dead_inside2514 2 роки тому +19

    I think i remember reading somewhere on the Demonology wiki about Aamon is that he is the only demon stronger than Asmodeus and Barbatos. Please do correct me if i’m wrong but i thought it was interesting. Aamon can also be seen in the Lesser Key of Solomon.
    Edit: it was Amaymon who had the power to Rival Asmodeus. Amaymon is the older brother to Aamon and the two usually have the same titles and are similar to each other. I’m guessing that’s why Aamon and Amaymon can be seen as the same entity.

  • @untouchable7024
    @untouchable7024 2 роки тому +17

    Im going to guess that stella and her brother are going to try to end stolas before octavia turns 18 so she isnt able to inherit her fathers position as a prince

    • @untouchable7024
      @untouchable7024 2 роки тому +5

      And they might bring up a goetic rule that doesnt allow a minor to inherit a higher position in power or something idk

  • @JaymerFIll
    @JaymerFIll 2 роки тому +30

    im always waiting for more videos ! all of them are so amazing and cant wait to learn more about the show

  • @jojosparkels6962
    @jojosparkels6962 2 роки тому +10

    This is my favorite type of video bc I always like to see what type of animals they can be

  • @user-xr1xu8en5u
    @user-xr1xu8en5u 5 місяців тому +1

    I think it's telling that we never saw any interactions between Stell and Octavia. Stolas makes sure to address her every time they're together, while Octavia and Stella seem to ignore each other. Even Octavia doesn't talk about her.

  • @Bbgunbbbsbsnsn
    @Bbgunbbbsbsnsn 2 роки тому +13

    this was really helpful to know bc we don’t know much about the goetia family lore thnx!

  • @kayleehartley8604
    @kayleehartley8604 2 роки тому +14

    Ok, so in Hazbin Hotel, when they're explaining who the Radio Demon is, they say he defeated ALL the demon princes, and you can see someone who looks a lot like Stolas in the list. My personal opinion is that Heluva Boss is like a kind of Prequel to Hazbin Hotel

    • @kayleehartley8604
      @kayleehartley8604 2 роки тому

      @@ballcockfiend Oh ok thank you. I hadn't realised that

    • @allisoncurtis4260
      @allisoncurtis4260 Рік тому +3

      You make a good point! I wonder who exactly they are referring to being defeated by the radio demon??!

    • @FayeLawnKrack3d
      @FayeLawnKrack3d Рік тому

      Uh, the stolas looking guy isn't blue (though that could be a proto design). He looks red. Maybe a macaw sinner overlord, because I've seen a bird (flamingo) sinner in the Katy Killjoy scene.

  • @xxmension04xx47
    @xxmension04xx47 Рік тому +5

    I know it may not happen...but I really really hope that Paimon is supportive of Stolas, I just really want to see what would happen if Stella or Andrealphus freaked out at Paimon for supporting Stolas

  • @mothmanoxide7645
    @mothmanoxide7645 5 місяців тому +2

    It took me a while to realize this was posted BEFORE bee was introduced in helluva boss gd

  • @Austrian_Butcher
    @Austrian_Butcher Рік тому +5

    The King of England was also the Duke of Normandy and Aquitaine, subserviant to the French Monarch. So its not outlandish that Asmodeus rules Lust while also being subserviant or having a fiefdom in the Pride ring.

  • @mtdreamcatcher5090
    @mtdreamcatcher5090 2 роки тому +4

    Hmm few spitball ideas:
    The unforeseen event around Octavia could be symbolism/directly connected to Stolas' future and how drastically it changed from what was expected. Stolas was a dutiful prince, following orders without question, deciphering the stars, and keeping the perfect Goetic image intact. But when Octavia arrived everything changed, Stolas now had a little bundle of joy to devote his time to, giving him a second purpose outside of his duty as a prince. Stolas did everything he could to make Octavia's life a good one, putting up with Stella's tormenting, the important job, the high expectations from the other Goetic demons, all for Octavia. Him sleeping with Blitz, loaning out the Grimoire, divorcing Stella, and otherwise upsetting the status quo, all are tied to Octavia in some way.

  • @strawberry_girlll
    @strawberry_girlll Рік тому +5

    I believe paiamon can take any form and when he’s talking to stolas he chooses to be a owl

  • @minhuctrinh1059
    @minhuctrinh1059 Рік тому +2

    Either Stolas position is hereditary, which means in the event of his untimely demise and Octavia's lack of training, his brother-in-law will take over as a sort of regent; or it is like an official appointed position, which means technically stolas can be replaced, just that the one in charge of appointing happens to be his father

  • @amoraromaji4591
    @amoraromaji4591 2 роки тому +9

    I wouldn’t put it past Stella to take out her own daughter not once have we seen her interact with Octavia. She wasn’t even discreet about her arrangement with striker with Octavia sitting right there

  • @emmanuelmartin7609
    @emmanuelmartin7609 2 роки тому +3

    1. I would love to watch a lore vid with Luci and Satan. 2. Prophecies at the best of times only confirm when a star is in position XYZ when a particular event is supposed to happen, like on Halloween when the veils of the world are at their thinnest. 3. At this point, Stolas' job is to help Hell survive as much as possible. Theory: Stolas isn't neglecting his duties, but if he gives away certain pieces of information, things will not go the way he or other demons want them to.

  • @lucaercolani853
    @lucaercolani853 2 роки тому +10

    I’m curious if overlords ever challenge members of the ars goetia.

  • @nikoisland6731
    @nikoisland6731 Рік тому +2

    I dont think stolas's song actually has any implications of the show. Hes just saying that he will always live on in her heart, even if he isnt there with her. He also just kind of knows entropy is a thing.

  • @irgendwieoderso8668
    @irgendwieoderso8668 2 роки тому +7

    I think Striker is Not Just an Imp his Designe is just to diffrent to the other imps we see. I think He is a hybrid between an imp and one of the shark demons we see in the backround.

  • @SauceyRedHN
    @SauceyRedHN 2 роки тому +5

    Damn, 20 minutes, this is a beefy video for you and I'm down for it

  • @wastelandbby3098
    @wastelandbby3098 2 роки тому +16

    i feel pretty torn about shipping blitz x stolas

  • @rakaydosdraj8405
    @rakaydosdraj8405 2 роки тому +7

    Robo-fizz: The kiddies are still running away from you
    Verosica: I should have known you were coming when I heard the Amber alerts
    Loona: I was almost 18...
    Do you think there's a story there?

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus Рік тому +3

      No.
      While they are in hell the show seems to go out of its way to avoid showing anything worse the murder or violance.
      I mean the worst stuff shown happend to angel dust and that was in a music video.

    • @misabelrodriguez1163
      @misabelrodriguez1163 2 місяці тому +1

      For Robo fizz I think its because when Blitz was working in Loo Loo land along with the robo, his performance wasnt good and caused the kids to run.
      Verosika might be insultingly referencing the fact that Blitz adopted Loona who as she said herself was almost 18 but still a minor so was able to adopt her

  • @sminthian
    @sminthian 2 роки тому +12

    7:49 I'm wondering about that baby picture. That looks like an insect larva. Is this some kind of hint as to how demon babies develop?

    • @zilouquaza779
      @zilouquaza779 2 роки тому +13

      I think its just that most baby birds are really ugly before growing feathers xD

    • @2gredvisions8560
      @2gredvisions8560 2 роки тому

      www.wildliferescue.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2021/06/Baby-Bird-Photos-08-1024x740.jpg
      Baby birds are born featherless 😅.

    • @turtlefast7251
      @turtlefast7251 2 роки тому +5

      Baby birds grow without feathers goofy

  • @SkyBaddie
    @SkyBaddie Рік тому +2

    Stolas hiring them as body guards is so funny now seeing how absolutely OP he is later on 😂

  • @pumpking1566
    @pumpking1566 2 роки тому +5

    I knew almost all this information, and that's why I can say that you explain things so well, bravo, very good video 👏
    (and yes a video that would compile your three videos on Lucifer would be nice)

  • @thelegendofluaisy
    @thelegendofluaisy 2 роки тому +5

    Me personally not used to your mega videos but it is great. As long your comfortable doing it once and awhile that I can be cool with it. AMAZING job to you and the whole group making y’all videos. I enjoy every single one

  • @niktrisvoltaris2151
    @niktrisvoltaris2151 2 роки тому +6

    I really enjoy the mega videos and would love to get more of them and even thou I already new almost all of the info it was quite relaxing to hear you talk. Also those kind videos make you think about everything more and start to theories about what happend and what is yet to come.

  • @SolBin-b4m
    @SolBin-b4m 2 роки тому +5

    I have a theory on Stella and Andrealphas parents. Their father could be (King/President) Zagan. He's depicted as a griffon. (For those who don't know what a griffon is, it's a mythological creature that had the body of a lion and the head and wings of an eagle.) There could be a chance Stella is Part Eagle. I'm not entirely sure if I'm right it's just my theory cuz Deepcut mentioned kings of the Ars Goetia and King/President Zagan is also a king with a bird characteristic. And Vivziepop made King Paimon turn into an owl. Maybe King Zagan could have Lion like fur with Eagle feathers.

  • @victoryangel29
    @victoryangel29 2 роки тому +4

    Ipos is one of the members who have secondary roles within the Goetials. So Ipos is both a prince and one of the Earls.

  • @holonerd13
    @holonerd13 2 роки тому +3

    I think birds are the general Goetia characteristic. However, because of the idea of Asmodeus and the others looking different- its possible Paimon adopts

  • @aVampireTear
    @aVampireTear 2 роки тому +14

    You are showing albino and leucistic female peacocks 🤦🏼‍♀️ the males in that color mutation are white too.. Normal female peacocks (peahens) are brown with a green/blue shimmering neck.

  • @coprahrappt6976
    @coprahrappt6976 Рік тому +2

    A goetic demon I'd love to see is Malphas, a crow-man who's supposed to work directly under Satan and a builder of towers and citadels in hell.

  • @Galaxy-mn4cn
    @Galaxy-mn4cn 2 роки тому +14

    I feel very bad for Stolas for his marriage breaking down by the same time I’m happy that he’s gonna get a better life

    • @samanthatorres6749
      @samanthatorres6749 2 роки тому

      I'm glad about it too.

    • @Galaxy-mn4cn
      @Galaxy-mn4cn 2 роки тому

      Yeah I’m just very excited to see what’s gonna happen down the main story

    • @Galaxy-mn4cn
      @Galaxy-mn4cn 2 роки тому

      And I hope his life gets better from now on because he has been in a lot of trauma in his life

  • @CptnFuzzySocks
    @CptnFuzzySocks 2 роки тому +2

    You know I think I figured out why I like your videos they're structured and presented a lot like yakkocmn and you even sound a lot like him both very entertaining and professional

  • @hereschica
    @hereschica Рік тому +3

    This may seem like a weird idea but I can imagine Stolas writing a hand written copy of the portal
    spell so that the I.M.P can travel to & from earth to do their job still in case Stolas wasn't able to
    get one of those crystals from Asmodeus.

  • @Kinfure
    @Kinfure 11 місяців тому +3

    Paimon is DEFINITLEY connected to birds... at least in the Hereditary lore, bird imagery is used quite a bit

  • @alexanderlisenby8945
    @alexanderlisenby8945 2 роки тому +7

    Very good, enjoy this video. And hope to see the next EP of Helluva Boss

  • @technowolf6758
    @technowolf6758 Рік тому +2

    Just think, Stolas' dad may already know about him sleeping with an imp. Simply due to the fact that Osmodias found out about it in his club

  • @kajaobrez7735
    @kajaobrez7735 8 місяців тому +1

    I noticed how most royals that atend Stola's and Stella's party are bird themed. That makes me theorize that almost every demon rotal is a bird themed one.

  • @WhitneyAllisonGG
    @WhitneyAllisonGG 2 роки тому +4

    Stella will have Octavia assassinated if she derives some benefits from it. Methinks Striker will go after the two forms of royalty such as Lucifer himself.

    • @chocolateworshiper6765
      @chocolateworshiper6765 2 роки тому +1

      Striker after shooting Lucifer and he just shrugs it off (he has accepted his fate): 🙂

  • @hereschica
    @hereschica Рік тому +3

    I wonder if Raum will make an appearance in the show? If anybody is wondering who Raum is, Raum is one
    of the Earls in the Ars Goetia. He is depicted as a very tall raven man in appearance.

  • @r34p3r1992
    @r34p3r1992 2 роки тому +5

    Imagine in the final episode; if Stella and her brother and strike have Stolas surrounded and Paimon comes in and just basically "Want me to destroy you?" in looks, nothing else

  • @BlackBirdMax
    @BlackBirdMax Рік тому

    Man, I just be happy with the next episode. Feels like we've been waiting forever.

  • @reset5899
    @reset5899 Рік тому +1

    i posted this on another yt video about helluva boss when they brought up a possible war between hell internally or between hell and earth, i think its an intersting lore possibility: "He calls strikers sniper, to kill a powerful demon royalty “blessing tipped” i think this implied there had been past battles with this gun being left in hell from heavens army ( this is common in real life where guns are resold after wars) and this is how it was sold to striker since and heaven can bless objects just like stolases “curse” of the harvest moon"

  • @randomstuffsh
    @randomstuffsh Рік тому +4

    Paimon can summon two different fandoms wow (helluva boss and genshin impact)

  • @Grace_SMP
    @Grace_SMP 4 місяці тому +1

    I like how alastor looking at the pictures prime in the beginning cool animation...the animation is like viv animation cool!!!❤️✨

  • @Mangosinmud
    @Mangosinmud 6 місяців тому +1

    I would like to thank you for fueling my Hyper-fixation with videos i can play as podcasts while doing other stuff

  • @geoknuckles4629
    @geoknuckles4629 2 роки тому +3

    Great information, here’s a theory how about the three Gods (Odin, Ra, and Vishnu) vs the seven princes of hell.

  • @fatgecko1616
    @fatgecko1616 2 роки тому +1

    Stella is a swan based demon. Most of a peahen is mottled grey or brown with a white belly and a blue green neck, the mostly white peahen shown is leucistic. Stella however is white with a black cere like a swan. But until vivzie confirms that's just my opinion.

  • @dygiilyiahspjtos9789
    @dygiilyiahspjtos9789 Рік тому +1

    i love the theroy that andrealphus might try to kill octavia but i have a problem with it. it may just be him trying to use a concerned tone for trickery but when he talks about via inherating stolas' duties, he calls her via and sounds concerned. wether its for octavia or for his status i dont know but hence he used the nickname it makes me think he doesnt want to hurt her. its just an idea tho lol

  • @SteveAdmienn
    @SteveAdmienn 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine if the prophecies says that all of Hell collapses because Stolas's care more of his daughter than his work. That would be surprising. Seeing this as some sort of redeeming point for Stolas as I see him more as a good character who is just being forced to bring brink of Global Warming and Sin by the Goetia family and Lucifer.
    To all of you sadly I did not watch season 1. It started getting my attention when season 2 episode 1 came out.

  • @StarrikKyrubui
    @StarrikKyrubui Рік тому +1

    Stella was stated to be a Secretary Bird based Demon. This is why she is so vicious.

  • @dacksonflux
    @dacksonflux Рік тому +1

    I don't think Paimon would have a problem with Stolas divorcing Stella. Otavia's already been born. That was Stella's one and only job. I could see her having Octavia assasinated for this reason but playing it up like she's the victim, effectively forcing Stolas to conceive an egg with her again.
    Also, I really doubt demons struggle with the idea of occasionally boinking imps. I'm sure it's extremely common. The most embarassing part is if it got out that Stolas had FEELINGS for an imp.

  • @TheAnnaBanana101
    @TheAnnaBanana101 Рік тому +2

    I do hope that Stella stops her brother if he ends up threatening Via

  • @PrinceOfChange
    @PrinceOfChange Рік тому +1

    “Nice magic, bird brain.”
    *detonates tsar bomba point blank*

  • @Alyenbird
    @Alyenbird 2 роки тому +2

    Off white female peacocks are a captive bred color mutation. In the wild, female peacocks are mainly brown.

  • @ivapopova4432
    @ivapopova4432 Рік тому +2

    Omg wait... Can Stolas be in love with Blitz, just because Blitz looks a lot like the doll Stolas had when he was a child (the one he has on the portraits on the wall)?!

  • @babyfouche
    @babyfouche 10 місяців тому

    THANK YOU!! I have no idea how i missed those videos! I was so confused about this royal line. So thank you for helping us understand all this

  • @ultima1594
    @ultima1594 2 роки тому +3

    Something I found interesting is that in Moxxie’s drug trip he says “I swear to Satan”, but Stella just says I swear to f*ck”. Not really relevant but a fun detail.

  • @cheryljolly
    @cheryljolly 4 місяці тому

    I did enjoy this deep dive into the Ars Goetia and would be interested in similar videos covering assorted lore.

  • @av_8596
    @av_8596 2 роки тому

    This is a well made mega-video, and I'm glad I watched it. Great job, CU!

  • @feikoff2206
    @feikoff2206 2 роки тому +1

    royal ranking from top to bottom go king- prince- duke- marquis- earl- count- viscount- baron. The only ones ranking above stolas are the nine kings and of course the seven prince’s

  • @LoveValentineXO
    @LoveValentineXO Рік тому

    I don't know why, but I love that the only picture of Lucifer we have is when Alastor is checking it out.

  • @Specogecko
    @Specogecko 6 місяців тому +1

    Gotta correct u on the peacock, u are somewhat right. Black shoulder is a colour mutation in captive Indian peafowl, where the females are that white colour like the photo in your video. The wild type colouration of Indian peahens tho are brown with a white chest and some green colouration

  • @Wandering_Dream-OG
    @Wandering_Dream-OG 7 місяців тому +1

    16:58 "If something were to happen to Stolas..." uhhhh, I have something to tell you

  • @Philtopy
    @Philtopy 6 місяців тому

    Since we haven’t been shown any interaction between mother and daughter so far, it’s safe to assume Octavia is in the high risk zone of beeing killed by her mother eventually.

  • @Ducking_Wanderer
    @Ducking_Wanderer 2 роки тому +2

    Moxxie Said “More than Bealza loves her Bub” this makes me think maybe their either a Married Couple sharing the crown, or siblings who are inseparable sharing the crown of the Gluttony Ring.

    • @jpmedina8328
      @jpmedina8328 2 роки тому +2

      Or maybe Bealzebub is a married woman and Bealza is just her nickname

    • @Ducking_Wanderer
      @Ducking_Wanderer 2 роки тому

      @@jpmedina8328
      It’s said as two different names. I don’t think so, but either way, nothing is ever Cannon or true until it’s proven.

  • @Otaku155
    @Otaku155 Рік тому +1

    Pseudomonarchia Daemonum was merely an appendix to the Grimoire De praestigiis daemonum, written in 1563 by Dr. Johann Weyer.

  • @coolmanplayz438
    @coolmanplayz438 Місяць тому

    Good points all around, though i feel obligated to mention a few things. First of all being that the seven deadly sins are Kings in infernal lore, not Princes. Mammon is the King of Gluttony, Satan is the King of Wrath etc. Secondly, there's a small discrepancy with Beelzebub and Ba'al. Ba'al was once only a title in its oldest usages, one meaning "Lord." Several deties then were reffered to as "ba'al" as a way of calling them by title, rather than by name, only later did Ba'al become a single being. Finally, the song with Stolas is not a literal thing. Its metaphorical and is meant to show octavia that no matter what happens she'll be ok. Its specifically sung after she has a nightmare about Stolas. Him being discontent with the things in his book didn't read as discontent to me at all. At least not for the reasons you theorized. I believe he's discontent because of the monotony of his life. He does all this bs for the goetia and doesn't really get anything from it. All that aside, great video!