This instrument was a big part of my life in the 80s, I did Fairlight programming and later did Synclavier... this is how I made my living, this was a genius piece of technology back in the day - then came EMU, MPC then Ensoniq... Geez, I kind of miss those days...
Peter Vogel: unassuming genius who never got rich from his incredible inventions. 'Today' channel 9/7/10 (or wherever these hostesses/hosts come from) - well-meaning but typically inane commercial TV people trying their best to understand who they're dealing with. I was sad to see this video was from morning TV in Australia (let's face it, at 10AM weekdays, not the highest-IQ audience given the next segment was probably about some 'revolutionary' vacuum cleaner or something). The Fairlight CMI that Vogel created was revolutionary, and responsible for some of the greatest sounds of the 80s.
Well the Sampler of the CMI will still be way superior, despite the lower res DAC. Because of the way it playbacks and re-samples the audio. They really were very creative to bypass all the technical shortcomings to not letting it ruin the audio quality :)
Hmm, except you can now have something that does the same stuff (and much more) with better resolution and a fraction of the price ....in your home computer!
Non-musicians have no idea who he was, what he created and how it influences music still today. The Fairlight changed everything. At $100,000 back then, it was only available to recording studios and big name musicians. Eventually replaced by the more affordable E-mu Systems offerings, but in its time, the best.
I remember in the 80s trying to spot them when bands performed on television in the UK , monitor was so distinctive perched there, I remember Nick Rhodes having one, used to see them demo’ them on programs like tomorrow’s world and Sesame Street , we had a music program called top of the pops on Thursday night and if you were lucky you could spot the monitor sitting there . Brilliant. I’m tempted on the lite version if it supports Audiobus and has that Trevor horn patch . It’s about £50 uk pounds for the pro version
I still use the Proteus samples. I used to use the SF2s on the Sound Blaster before E-Mu got bought out. I bought a Proteus 2000, and still love it to this day. Very high quality samples, and many DAWs still keep the presets around for the MIDI.
It had a very short time in the sun. By 1987 you could replicate virtually all the functionality of the Fairlight with an Atari ST and a Midi compatible keyboard for about $3,000.
I had the IIx and Series III. Amazing pieces of kit, but seriously expensive. The Series III cost me around £36,000. The iconic womans voice sound at 4:52 is called Saraar (or a spelling close to that). The sound I used most frequently was Cello, which had a depth, impact and presence not even surpassed by today's samples.
@@robh7671 1988 from Andrew Stirling at Syco Systems. It was around £28k for the base system then the rest on extra RAM cards at £2k a pop and other bits. Expensive business, even by today's standards.
i don't know about the fairlight stuff but in the 70's he had people who helped him setting up the synth sounds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Margouleff
Peter is a thoroughly great guy. I must be the ONLY other person in the world to have ALL the files, schematics, GALS, PALS and ROMS needed to build a Farilight IIx or III. He let me have the lot.
@4:03 oof. I would love to see an interview with Peter on a show that has the time and the understanding to give this instrument and the people behind it the respect they deserve. That said, I'm glad they did this interview in the first place. Any coverage and discussion of the CMI in the modern era is worthwhile.
The crazy thing is that I have on vinyl, the very songs which contain the sounds that he demonstrated during this interview. I DJ'ed during the 80's and 90's. I never had a freakin' clue how those songs were made. I just happen to look this thing up after watching a Stevie Wonder video, which mentioned that he played this thing. I wanted to see what it was, since I played piano for my college gospel choir, as well as my father's church during the late seventies and early eighties. Wow.
Hi There this is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris, I was wondering if they need to do the exact same version of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesiser String Sound to an Musette Accordion sound, and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to an 4 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 5 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favourite Song Ever Since I was about 11 Years of Age Thank You 😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏
A very interesting album. Not their best, but best commercially. But a ton of hit songs off it. Give me Candy O over Heartbeat City anytime ;) Heartbeat City was probably better Panorama...maybe :) But I liked Panorama just fine
It's maybe a little bit surprising to learn that this 30th anniversary ( although handcrafted like the 1908s originals series ) is only a fraction of the cost of the originals. It would be interesting to take a census of those hundred or so 1980s models to find out where they are and who owns them.
Wonder why Vogel didn't mention the guy who got the message out to all those musicians like Wonder and Hancock was another Aussie audio Pioneer and genius named Bruce Jackson, who amongst other things designed mixing consoles, mixed for Elvis, Springsteen, started Apogee and did audio for Sydney Olympics...just to name a few things. Jackson personally flew those fairlights cross country in his own aircraft. Sadly passed away a few years back. An interesting omission, although Bruce is mentioned on the Fairlight cmi wiki..someone should make a documentary or write a book about all these characters..
Quite right - Bruce was our "lucky break". Another important name to mention (there are many of course) is Tony Furse who engineered the Qasar M8 synthesiser that morphed into the Fairlight. Tony's technology (which we licensed) gave us a huge advantage.
According to Rick Wakeman he once asked Dr Bob Moog how his name was pronounced as he was conscious of getting it wrong...do you pronounce it "Moooog" or "Mowg"? Apparently Bob just smiled and said "I really don't mind". So if Bob doesn't mind, why should anyone else? David Bowie didn't mind either ("Bow-ee" "Booey" etc) and was known to pronounce it differently himself from time to time.
I had one of these. Whilst it looked great it was let down by running under Windows (yes windows!) It kept dropping tracks. Once I had that happened I sold it right away. You can't have dropping tracks.
Sadly, if you didn't get this when it came out, you probably never will. The injunction against PVI selling it is still in place. The best we'll ever get is the iOS app - which is the entire reason there are no 30A's able to be sold.
10 years before the mouse was invented! (1989?) 🤣 The mouse was invented 11 years before it (Douglas Engelbart - 1968, NLS system). Commercially available six years before the CMI Fairlight.
True, also the rather silly excuse regarding the keyboard & them needing to make it in house. Keyboards were available & even IBM probably would have sold them some that they could adapt. It seems a lot of what they were doing was wrong & hence why they chose to have it at a high price knowing it could be sold to a select group. So essentially a short term project that tech would always supersede as costs were driven down.
The biggest issue i had with the CMI 30A was the terrible price. The original already was so expensive that only the elite of musicians and producers could afford one. And the 30A, dispite all the technical progress and cheaper price for the parts, still cost an arm and a leg. I already had to give up the hope to ever be able to afford and play on one of these…
Michael Bauers They do. Unfortunately, that iOS app is the reason you can’t get a CMI-30A today. That touched off a whole legal firestorm that ended with an injunction against selling the CMI-30A that still exists to this day.
Interesting, this pronunciation thing. I've always referred to the machine as a Mooooog, and so did just about everyone else outside of the USA, so it came as some surprise when I saw an interview with Robert and he was referred to as Moog (as in Vogue). Like another poster said though, old habits die hard and I still pronounce it the way I have done for over 50 years. When you see the word for the first time and you are an English speaker (or even if you're not) that's the way you would naturally pronounce it, but obviously Robert's pronunciation trumps everyone else even though it doesn't make a lot of sense. So, it's Moge all the way! :) By the way, I agree those presenters (especially the male variety) were extraordinarily patronising towards such a clever individual..
I guess without this interruption we were going to hear how Mr. Morris was going to tell the real client, Mr. Wonder, would find little use in a monitor he could draw his own waves on.
It instantly gave me terf vibes as soon as I heard her reaction and the fact that Wendy had already had SRS in like 72 I think it was, it just feels a bit odd to say that regardless you know? like as a reaction
It’s unfair that they believe he has dissuaded the next generation of musicians from picking up “real instruments”. The computer age was going to happen no matter what and instruments were going to become computerized. I think it’s up to the preference of the musicians; what tech and instruments they are going to use. Personally I use a guitar, real synthesizers, bass guitar, bass synth, real racks and effects; but I also use everything I can to support my sound with what the computer provides in engineering and actual music production. Also we as musicians would never be able to have the personal studios at our disposal nowadays without computers and daws. As a result I probably would’ve never even became a musician in the first place. Computers quite literally perform the job of almost an entire studios layout.
He said he did not know it was out there? Some people didn't know about Fairlight? What's wrong with them? I knew about it when I was a kid in the 80s. And please pronounce Moog to rhyme with Rogue or Vogue.
That guy that said oh that was start of MJ song Thriller when he put his finger on the key, Is he tone deaf as that was obviously the start of Beat It !!!!
She also seems to be not the brightest light... she states that "the 80s very wild", but Walter went into Wendy in the early 70's. And the MJ sound was a Synclavier. It's just sampled into the CMI here for the Wow-effect
the bass line in thriller is a minimoog. I saw a video on here about it. when it was pure analog signal,,before M.I.D.I. and before the fairlight C.M.I.
Produced by children. Terrible production, constantly showing that scene when they are done talking about Stevie and it doesn't even contain a Fairlight.
8:28 "you shouldn't have to look at a screen to play music" he says as he literally demonstrates an instrument with a screen 😄 but seriously the CMI was groundbreaking
5.42. What a great time it was! People thought, that if you can't touch smth, then there is no need for copyright protection. Then guys like Steve Jobs (let him rest in peace) and Bill Gates came into this area and explained, that it was wrong to think like this.
NuGanjaTron got to remember that Australia legitimately did lag behind back in those days. 1979 is probably close enough to 10 years before PC were “popularised” (he didn’t say invented) here. Definitely it was the late 80’s before they were anything near mainstream. My dad got his first PC in ~1996 and he was an academic working in the field. (Signal processing, later AI). If you had a computer in the 1980’s in Australia you were a very early adopter. Yeah on the mouse thing I expect he misspoke, but this was still 4-5 years ahead on the first PC mouses. Again they weren’t properly popularised until a bit after that.
@@NuGanjaTron Pretty sure he meant 10 years before PCs had PCM capability which isn't far off, first PC sound card with sample based audio (PCM) was in 1987 but was a single channel pretty crude piece of junk. First Soundblaster card was in 1989 but it too was pretty ordinary, wasn't until about 1991 before it became decent enough. Amiga computers on the otherhand had decent 4 channel PCM onboard soundchip which was technically superior to Fairlight series I and II at a fraction of the price in 1985.
I know synthesizer experts who mispronounce it. I am not joking. Bonafide synthesizer masters, who actually know they don't say it properly, but admit they learned it wrong, and can't correct themselves.
yeah, I can see how some might see the Melotron as a sampler, but it was more of a ROMpler, because I didn't think users created their own sounds ( not sure Melotron offered that ability)
dutch menneer are you being pedantic and would rather he said taught? Sorry I meant semantic don’t shoot, don’t shoot!! Or are you suggesting that he never taught Wonder how to use the invention and he just magically picked up this piece of equipment and had to teach himself because a blind person can’t be taught by a sighted man? Hmm...
This instrument was a big part of my life in the 80s, I did Fairlight programming and later did Synclavier... this is how I made my living, this was a genius piece of technology back in the day - then came EMU, MPC then Ensoniq...
Geez, I kind of miss those days...
Peter Vogel. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Vogel made a serious impact on music, and I am grateful.
Peter Vogel: unassuming genius who never got rich from his incredible inventions. 'Today' channel 9/7/10 (or wherever these hostesses/hosts come from) - well-meaning but typically inane commercial TV people trying their best to understand who they're dealing with. I was sad to see this video was from morning TV in Australia (let's face it, at 10AM weekdays, not the highest-IQ audience given the next segment was probably about some 'revolutionary' vacuum cleaner or something). The Fairlight CMI that Vogel created was revolutionary, and responsible for some of the greatest sounds of the 80s.
Peter Vogel is one of my heroes. So modest, genius.
Peter Vogel should receive the Australian equivalent of a knighthood for bringing this baby into the world IMO.
That would be - a knighthood.
@@Ingens_Scherz Yeah, sorry about that.
BaddaBigBoom nah you were right, we don’t have knighthoods anymore.
I concur. Such an AMAZING machine!!
and BRILLIANT mind behind that machine!
I had the honour of playing one of these a while back.
It was pure delight for a synth nerd. Sure I have better samplers etc but this was a FAIRLIGHT.
Well the Sampler of the CMI will still be way superior, despite the lower res DAC. Because of the way it playbacks and re-samples the audio. They really were very creative to bypass all the technical shortcomings to not letting it ruin the audio quality :)
Peter Vogel is one of the people on this planet that I admire greatly. What an intellect this man has.
what's crazy is how little has changed. They were so so far ahead of their time.
Hmm, except you can now have something that does the same stuff (and much more) with better resolution and a fraction of the price ....in your home computer!
Non-musicians have no idea who he was, what he created and how it influences music still today. The Fairlight changed everything. At $100,000 back then, it was only available to recording studios and big name musicians. Eventually replaced by the more affordable E-mu Systems offerings, but in its time, the best.
I remember in the 80s trying to spot them when bands performed on television in the UK , monitor was so distinctive perched there, I remember Nick Rhodes having one, used to see them demo’ them on programs like tomorrow’s world and Sesame Street , we had a music program called top of the pops on Thursday night and if you were lucky you could spot the monitor sitting there . Brilliant. I’m tempted on the lite version if it supports Audiobus and has that Trevor horn patch . It’s about £50 uk pounds for the pro version
I still use the Proteus samples. I used to use the SF2s on the Sound Blaster before E-Mu got bought out. I bought a Proteus 2000, and still love it to this day. Very high quality samples, and many DAWs still keep the presets around for the MIDI.
That's expensive back in the 80s I'm the 80s baby
It had a very short time in the sun. By 1987 you could replicate virtually all the functionality of the Fairlight with an Atari ST and a Midi compatible keyboard for about $3,000.
What a living legend in the Australian music scene. Well done Peter.
My goodness this piece of equipment was so far ahead of its time.
Love how the host can't contain himself and just interrupts Peter by punching random keys... ;^)
Who could resist?
Mr Vogel should have brought a nice flexible plastic ruler to put a stop to that!
Glad it's not just me he annoyed 😂👍
I had the IIx and Series III. Amazing pieces of kit, but seriously expensive. The Series III cost me around £36,000. The iconic womans voice sound at 4:52 is called Saraar (or a spelling close to that). The sound I used most frequently was Cello, which had a depth, impact and presence not even surpassed by today's samples.
When did the Fairlight S / III cost you £36K ?????
@@robh7671 1988 from Andrew Stirling at Syco Systems. It was around £28k for the base system then the rest on extra RAM cards at £2k a pop and other bits. Expensive business, even by today's standards.
Had no clue about this machine but it's made it very clear where the tracker scene on the Amiga 500 got it's inspiration from
Peter Gabriel certainly brought it to life
Kate Bush too.
How the hell did Stevie Wonder use the fairlight being a graphical interfaice only
He might have had help then memorized it all.
I believe there was a braille interface.
That sounds right. A number of companies worked with Wonder to provide him keyboards he could use. I know Yamaha worked with him.
Haven't you heard? He isn't really blind.
i don't know about the fairlight stuff but in the 70's he had people who helped him setting up the synth sounds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Margouleff
cost 35,000$ at 1978
that was a real innovation, also had a pan touch screen, this is a true mosterpiece
o c Officer Crabtree, is it you?
Vogel’s fairlight is the most significant musical instrument of the 20th century.
Yep, I'd go with that.
Wrong ...the most important of the 21st century.
Peter is a thoroughly great guy. I must be the ONLY other person in the world to have ALL the files, schematics, GALS, PALS and ROMS needed to build a Farilight IIx or III. He let me have the lot.
04:38 Art of Noise - Moments in love :D I LOVE this track.
@4:03 oof. I would love to see an interview with Peter on a show that has the time and the understanding to give this instrument and the people behind it the respect they deserve. That said, I'm glad they did this interview in the first place. Any coverage and discussion of the CMI in the modern era is worthwhile.
There is one on UA-cam I watched it a few days ago.
Legit brought a tear to my eye.
Peter Vogel we thank you for !!!
The first commercially released album to incorporate it was Kate Bush's Never for Ever (1980)
Dang, this is a well-made segment. Hosts did their research even!
She def did.
Thank goodness they had the foresight to have this segment at all. I'm grateful indeed.
I've never heard "Moog" pronounced as incorrectly or with so much passion!
Australian pronounciation
Bob was fine with Moo-g
Some pronounce it like the hockey goalie: "MOHG"
love that blink-&-you'll-miss-it cutaway of the akai card stuck in the back of the CMI.
massive irony.
“Since I was a kid I was just fascinated by electricity” . Thanks Peter!
He is so modest!
The thing is, the opening sound on "Thriller" was NOT a Fairlight; it was a Synclavier.
You mean at 9:40 Beat IT.
@@MorenoJ1973 Yes, exactly. Better heard at 9:48. But yeah, that was originally done on a Synclavier. The Fairlight simply sampled it for this demo.
It's always nice to acknowledge what team before as we take things so for granted these days
Kate Bush used it the best on Hounds of Love
The crazy thing is that I have on vinyl, the very songs which contain the sounds that he demonstrated during this interview. I DJ'ed during the 80's and 90's. I never had a freakin' clue how those songs were made. I just happen to look this thing up after watching a Stevie Wonder video, which mentioned that he played this thing. I wanted to see what it was, since I played piano for my college gospel choir, as well as my father's church during the late seventies and early eighties. Wow.
Jackson Gong sound was in fact a Synclavier and not a sample.
Hi There this is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris, I was wondering if they need to do the exact same version of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesiser String Sound to an Musette Accordion sound, and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to an 4 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 5 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favourite Song Ever Since I was about 11 Years of Age Thank You 😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏
Ah, the orchestral hit - also used on "Hello Again" by The Cars - this thing is all over the Heartbeat City album.
A very interesting album. Not their best, but best commercially. But a ton of hit songs off it. Give me Candy O over Heartbeat City anytime ;) Heartbeat City was probably better Panorama...maybe :) But I liked Panorama just fine
And “the dreaming” by Kate Bush
The orchestral hit was sampled by david vorhaus and shared in the library in1980, i think he is ashamed for its over usage during the 80s
@@eccremocarpusscaber5159 Originally on "Never for Ever" two years earlier.
It's maybe a little bit surprising to learn that this 30th anniversary ( although handcrafted like the 1908s originals series ) is only a fraction of the cost of the originals. It would be interesting to take a census of those hundred or so 1980s models to find out where they are and who owns them.
9:40 Not Thriller, it's the beginning of Beat It. Which is what the presenters should have done.
Well technically he was right since "Beat it" was a song from the Album "Thriller".
The Beat It “gong” was actually from the Synclavier not the Fairlight.
Wonder why Vogel didn't mention the guy who got the message out to all those musicians like Wonder and Hancock was another Aussie audio Pioneer and genius named Bruce Jackson, who amongst other things designed mixing consoles, mixed for Elvis, Springsteen, started Apogee and did audio for Sydney Olympics...just to name a few things. Jackson personally flew those fairlights cross country in his own aircraft. Sadly passed away a few years back. An interesting omission, although Bruce is mentioned on the Fairlight cmi wiki..someone should make a documentary or write a book about all these characters..
Quite right - Bruce was our "lucky break". Another important name to mention (there are many of course) is Tony Furse who engineered the Qasar M8 synthesiser that morphed into the Fairlight. Tony's technology (which we licensed) gave us a huge advantage.
The next person to incorrectly pronounce "moog" should have a System 55 dropped on their toes.
@@garethjones7182 ... yeah, trickier to pronounce, for those verbally challenged like her. ;^)
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According to Rick Wakeman he once asked Dr Bob Moog how his name was pronounced as he was conscious of getting it wrong...do you pronounce it "Moooog" or "Mowg"? Apparently Bob just smiled and said "I really don't mind". So if Bob doesn't mind, why should anyone else?
David Bowie didn't mind either ("Bow-ee" "Booey" etc) and was known to pronounce it differently himself from time to time.
@@NuGanjaTron they can't even pronounce "idea" they say idear lol.
"Mowg" would be written as Moge or Mogue in English. This is why it's always mispronounced.
Did vangelis use this or moog?
I know he used Clavioline alot in early 70s and then yamaha cs80 in late 70s and early 80s.
For sampling needs, Vangelis used E-mu Emulators (notably I and II). As for the Moog, he used a Minimoog.
Absolute legend!
That moog was more complicated wasn"it Peter?
Pretty good for Morning TV. Curious as to why Peter never mentioned Kim Ryrie - was there a falling out between them?
I wondered that too.
There probably was. Things were pretty chaotic in Farlight’s last days.
Dolby didnt have cmi for golden age of wireless album only for the follow up
The Michael Jackson sample was from the Synclavier.
I think Icehouse used it also.
@Adrian-jk4kx I didn't know that. Kate Bush had the first commercial release using it on her album "Never for Ever" 1980.
Love it... "Are you Rich?" well... no that part alluded me so far... we were about 20 years before our time" ... You are preaching to the choir baby!
That part _eluded_ him. The hosts alluded to him not being rich.
#sorryCantHelpIt
It didn't just the sound of the 80's, it changed the sound of music even today..... Which could also be a bad thing in some cases.
5:33 The Engish scientist in question is Dr Magnus Pyke who dies in 1992. Sadly missed.
The software, written in 1980, is just brilliant. On a 6800 no less
I had one of these. Whilst it looked great it was let down by running under Windows (yes windows!) It kept dropping tracks. Once I had that happened I sold it right away. You can't have dropping tracks.
A legend!
It's a bit misleading to have Owner Of A Lonely Heart on a key...
Sadly, if you didn't get this when it came out, you probably never will. The injunction against PVI selling it is still in place. The best we'll ever get is the iOS app - which is the entire reason there are no 30A's able to be sold.
4:50 "This sound here is actually a woman's voice that we recorded in our little garage studio"
5:43 "We were never involved in making the sounds"
10 years before the mouse was invented! (1989?) 🤣 The mouse was invented 11 years before it (Douglas Engelbart - 1968, NLS system). Commercially available six years before the CMI Fairlight.
True, also the rather silly excuse regarding the keyboard & them needing to make it in house. Keyboards were available & even IBM probably would have sold them some that they could adapt. It seems a lot of what they were doing was wrong & hence why they chose to have it at a high price knowing it could be sold to a select group. So essentially a short term project that tech would always supersede as costs were driven down.
4:07 shout sound 😍
The biggest issue i had with the CMI 30A was the terrible price. The original already was so expensive that only the elite of musicians and producers could afford one. And the 30A, dispite all the technical progress and cheaper price for the parts, still cost an arm and a leg. I already had to give up the hope to ever be able to afford and play on one of these…
They do make a software version of the CMI though I think?
Michael Bauers They do. Unfortunately, that iOS app is the reason you can’t get a CMI-30A today. That touched off a whole legal firestorm that ended with an injunction against selling the CMI-30A that still exists to this day.
Stevie WOnder had an "Observation" to make about the Fairlight.
Mouse was 15 years old in 1980.
Switched On Bach was released in 1968, not the 80s :)
Interesting, this pronunciation thing. I've always referred to the machine as a Mooooog, and so did just about everyone else outside of the USA, so it came as some surprise when I saw an interview with Robert and he was referred to as Moog (as in Vogue). Like another poster said though, old habits die hard and I still pronounce it the way I have done for over 50 years. When you see the word for the first time and you are an English speaker (or even if you're not) that's the way you would naturally pronounce it, but obviously Robert's pronunciation trumps everyone else even though it doesn't make a lot of sense. So, it's Moge all the way! :)
By the way, I agree those presenters (especially the male variety) were extraordinarily patronising towards such a clever individual..
The correct pronunciation is of course as Americans say it, but do American cows "moo" or "mow"?
yes word can be funny sometimes... read or read...
"Instruments are no longer user friendly" ... agreed!
I had 2 of the original Fairlight CMI's , i also gave there app company 2 months work after beta testing the app lol
I guess without this interruption we were going to hear how Mr. Morris was going to tell the real client, Mr. Wonder, would find little use in a monitor he could draw his own waves on.
OK, he grabbed the chance to make it up a bit at 8:15
thank you sir , it was Walter Carlos!!
Finally some info on the ARR1 sample!
Fitting, a woman's voice since it can sound anything from erotic to militant.
A Jupiter 8, a Linndrum and a Fairlight CMI XII walk into a bar..
It was a shame they sold the reissue at a ludicrous price. If it was, say 2 or 3k a lot of us would love to have one.
That wendy carlos comment was so uneccesary. "Oh wow, the 80s were wild🤓" ah yes because Wendy's identity was just a wild 80s trend
Why? He only stated the facts that he was a man first then became Wendy Carlos
@@NathanChisholm041 *She
And yes I wasn't criticizing Peter Vogel, he obviously respects Wendy, but that reporter was being weird about it
Fair enough mate.
It instantly gave me terf vibes as soon as I heard her reaction and the fact that Wendy had already had SRS in like 72 I think it was, it just feels a bit odd to say that regardless you know? like as a reaction
superb very good:)
It’s unfair that they believe he has dissuaded the next generation of musicians from picking up “real instruments”. The computer age was going to happen no matter what and instruments were going to become computerized. I think it’s up to the preference of the musicians; what tech and instruments they are going to use. Personally I use a guitar, real synthesizers, bass guitar, bass synth, real racks and effects; but I also use everything I can to support my sound with what the computer provides in engineering and actual music production. Also we as musicians would never be able to have the personal studios at our disposal nowadays without computers and daws. As a result I probably would’ve never even became a musician in the first place. Computers quite literally perform the job of almost an entire studios layout.
I think it was a decent interview really, all things considered.
He said he did not know it was out there? Some people didn't know about Fairlight? What's wrong with them? I knew about it when I was a kid in the 80s. And please pronounce Moog to rhyme with Rogue or Vogue.
just because you knew something doesn't mean it's commonplace for everyone else
The music snobs have arrived in force I see.
Whadda ya expect, the host was a total wanker...
That guy that said oh that was start of MJ song Thriller when he put his finger on the key, Is he tone deaf as that was obviously the start of Beat It !!!!
She also seems to be not the brightest light... she states that "the 80s very wild", but Walter went into Wendy in the early 70's. And the MJ sound was a Synclavier. It's just sampled into the CMI here for the Wow-effect
Most people are like that. Lack of musicality or musical knowledge.
Was just just about to say the same thing yes Synclavier MJ used on that album not fairlight.
the bass line in thriller is a minimoog. I saw a video on here about it. when it was pure analog signal,,before M.I.D.I. and before the fairlight C.M.I.
AlobarMusic ha. I just said that in another reply. Yea, it was some gong preset.
maybe dont play happy birthday behind vogel as he is telling the story....
Produced by children. Terrible production, constantly showing that scene when they are done talking about Stevie and it doesn't even contain a Fairlight.
8:28 "you shouldn't have to look at a screen to play music" he says as he literally demonstrates an instrument with a screen 😄 but seriously the CMI was groundbreaking
You shouldn’t have to look at a screen to play music. No truer statement.
Hey thanks for having me on the show! Stop touching the fucking keyboard!
5.42. What a great time it was! People thought, that if you can't touch smth, then there is no need for copyright protection. Then guys like Steve Jobs (let him rest in peace) and Bill Gates came into this area and explained, that it was wrong to think like this.
"An English scientist" come on mate, Dr Magnus Pyke 🙂
"10 years before the mouse was invented ".... mmm, maybe not. Still, bloody fantastic.
Yeah, I was thinking that. The computer mouse was invented in the 60s.
That was just as off as "10 years before the PC". I'd say the hosts are 10 years behind. ;^)
NuGanjaTron got to remember that Australia legitimately did lag behind back in those days.
1979 is probably close enough to 10 years before PC were “popularised” (he didn’t say invented) here. Definitely it was the late 80’s before they were anything near mainstream.
My dad got his first PC in ~1996 and he was an academic working in the field. (Signal processing, later AI). If you had a computer in the 1980’s in Australia you were a very early adopter.
Yeah on the mouse thing I expect he misspoke, but this was still 4-5 years ahead on the first PC mouses. Again they weren’t properly popularised until a bit after that.
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Pretty sure he meant 10 years before PCs had PCM capability which isn't far off, first PC sound card with sample based audio (PCM) was in 1987 but was a single channel pretty crude piece of junk.
First Soundblaster card was in 1989 but it too was pretty ordinary, wasn't until about 1991 before it became decent enough.
Amiga computers on the otherhand had decent 4 channel PCM onboard soundchip which was technically superior to Fairlight series I and II at a fraction of the price in 1985.
now play terminator theme
it's really crazy, if you think about, that we now can do this with a i Pad. 😏
better Australian invention than the rotary clothes line
Do people understand ?!
yes the moog a lot trickier than the fairlight lmao
"Mooooooog"
She saying it how a cow would.
I know synthesizer experts who mispronounce it. I am not joking. Bonafide synthesizer masters, who actually know they don't say it properly, but admit they learned it wrong, and can't correct themselves.
It's crazy isn't it. I called somebody out on it recently and he claimed he knew and thought people who pronounced it correctly where wankers lmao.
*were ;-)
And it's BACH!! Not BAHKKKK. >_>
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
thanking ab0ut getting a vst called cmi v it act like this
Father of the sampler(grand father is the melotron)
yeah, I can see how some might see the Melotron as a sampler, but it was more of a ROMpler, because I didn't think users created their own sounds ( not sure Melotron offered that ability)
Er, that's Herbie Hancock and Quincy Jones
Nice instrument but way too expensive for the vast majority of musicians at the time
Bla, bla, bla, bla. Me quedé con ganas de oír el Fairlight...
lol cmi30a subasted in 65000 dollars.....
Now $25000
This hosts are anoying
@SouthHemiTV 3 If you're so indifferent to Vogel's achievements, why are you even posting here?
Their show, their rules...
He showed Stevie Wonder how it worked? Hmm... Something's not right there.
dutch menneer are you being pedantic and would rather he said taught? Sorry I meant semantic don’t shoot, don’t shoot!!
Or are you suggesting that he never taught Wonder how to use the invention and he just magically picked up this piece of equipment and had to teach himself because a blind person can’t be taught by a sighted man?
Hmm...
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