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Ep. #1, Dr. Camarata & Collette Wieland explore topics from book Late-Talking a Symptom or a Stage.
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2023
- Late-Talking: A Symptom or a Stage is a best-selling book by Stephen Camarata, Ph.D., about late-talking in all its variations. The 2nd edition of the book is about to be released. In these videos, Collette Wieland and Stephen Camarata discuss and explore the questions on the minds of many parents of late-talking children.
About Dr. Camarata: Stephen Camarata, Ph.D. CCC-SLP is a late talker himself and is an internationally recognized expert on child development broadly with a focus on how children learn to talk. His clinical and scientific expertise includes speech and language intervention in children with autism, down syndrome, hearing loss, and developmental language disorder (DLD). Dr. Camarata is a professor of Hearing & Speech, Psychiatry, and Otolaryngology at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine and a Professor of Psychology and Human Development and Special Education at Peabody College, Vanderbilt University. He has written two books related to development, “Late Talking Children: A Symptom or a Stage” MIT Press 2014 and “The Intuitive Parent” Penguin 2017, and has a regular blog on Psychology Today.
Welcome, everyone. Let us hear your thoughts! We are excited to bring you regular content to help you in helping your child.
We have a late-talking 4 year old named Ben and we are so grateful for your podcast! It is so nice to hear again that there is nothing us as parents did wrong to “cause” late-talking. It is also nice to hear that we aren’t the only ones with a stubborn late-talker. Looking forward to more information in coming episodes. I have read Dr. Camarata’s book and it gave us so much hope. Being the parent of a late-talker can be very difficult and frustrating at times. In those moments when Ben is receptive to learning and something clicks into place, it is magical. We appreciate Mary’s advice too. Keep up your education for parents!
Mary and I are so pleased that these podcasts are helpful to you and I am grateful that you have read the book and that it has supported you on your late talker journey. It is gratifying you heard the message that parents are not causing the late talking--which of course has a strong evidence base stretching back more than 50 years--But it's still something that some families are told. It is simply not true with the very rare exceptions of severe neglect and/or physical trauma abuse that Is so far beyond any kind of normal discipline that medical harm is caused such as brain damage. Parents do not cause late talking.
With regard to being stubborn, and as a late talker myself, I simply prefer to say that we have a strong positive self-image, this is certainly true and can be difficult during child rearing years especially.
Stephen Camarata
@@Late-TalkerJourney "we have a strong positive self-image" I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!
It is gratifying to finally see podcasts on late talkers. Ive always told professional "I never hear the term late talkers anymore, why? Isnt it in their vocabulary anymore?" I felt they all consider "all late talkers are autistic and I knew this is inaccurate but many people are getting wrong information so there had been some misjudging my son.
My son is almost 5 1/2 years old and still not talking. Had tonsillectomy, adenoidectomy and tube in right ear last October. After surgery he was very vocal but he says words here and there. But more at school and therapy sessions than at home. Is there a phone number to call you?
Hello, We happy you have found this channel (!) and hope you continue to receive lots of helpful information as a result. . The contact number for the Late Talkers Foundation is 15-866-9457. Or, feel free to email the foundation at info@latetalkers.org. We looking forward to hearing from you!
Thank you for sharing this important information 😊
Hello, and thank you for the kind remarks. :-) We are so pleased to offer this information and hold a deep respect for the capabilities of parents and those dedicated to supporting them. We hope you continue to watch and share the information with others who may benefit. Thanks!
It is so informative. I agree as a first time parent one has no idea what to think of. Also about labeling a kid and then just going the endless services route without even thinking if a kid needs those. We just all think that someone else can help a child but parent’s involvement is the most that can help as we are always around our kids. I am thankful for this podcast and information. Looking forward to more of this and educate myself as I help me late taking kid.
Thanks so much for listening to the podcast! Mary and I are very pleased that you are finding the information useful. It is certainly true that first time parents especially don't have experience with what is typical and atypical development in there toddlers and young children. This comment is especially important because one must always consider the services that are given and whether they actually align with the child's needs both as a late talker and as a developing child. Simply throwing services at a child is unlikely to match their particular needs in that moment. I was supervising a case where a late talking three year old was enrolled in more than 40 hours of school and treatment services every week. Her late talking was a symptom of a severe speech disorder and she needed an electronic device to communicate for her. But, her thinking ability and other developmental milestones were within the typical range so that she was really, with the exception of the speech disorder, atypical preschooler who needed time to play with her sisters and with her friends and have all the experiences that are so important for young children. These were completely displaced by her treatment schedule. Worse, most of the treatment was not focused on helping her learn to communicate using her electronic speech generating device. She does indeed need intervention support to help her learn to communicate with the electronic speech system. But there is nothing to suggest this should be done 40 hours a week or that there are benefits over and above keeping her from participating in other normal natural childhood experiences. In fact when I teach the course here at Vanderbilt in augmentative communication I emphasize that the teaching experiences actually should be embedded in real life situation so that a child can learn to communicate with their device when communicating with her sisters, friends, and participating in what a normal preschooler would do. When you have the late talking as a symptom (as it is for this little girl) it is important that the time spent in intervention is productive and is aligned with overall child development and learning. Stephen Camarata.
Just want to thank you for the videos. Our youngest recently turned three and after getting advice to ‘wait and see’ when he was younger, finally pushed for a formal analysis when he was 2.5, which has resulted in three hours of speech services per week. The SLPs are perplexed as to underlying cause as he has not demonstrated signs of other causes which result in speech delays. We should be receiving our six month progress report here soon, but sometimes wonder if getting another opinion would help.
Hello! We are so happy that you're finding the videos informative. You've raised a common concern among many families with late talkers. It can be frustrating not to identify a specific cause or underlying reason for the delay in speech development. In truth, pinpointing a precise cause isn't always possible. There is, however, a lot known about how we can support a child in becoming a successful communicator; supporting their talking and listening skills. While we're constantly learning more about potential causes, providing effective interventions is a critical focus.
That being said, a parent's intuition is invaluable and should not be ignored. It's crucial to trust your instincts. If you have lingering concerns, don't hesitate to discuss them with your speech pathologist. Allow them to address your questions and uncertainties. If you still have reservations and aren't confident about the direction of your sessions, seeking a second opinion is absolutely a valid option. I recommend choosing your second opinion provider carefully. I suggest that once you find a provider and before you take your child to them, you schedule a "Parent Only" appointment (as discussed in LATE TALKER TRAVEL NOTES: Learn a -valuable- step to use when seeking help for your late-talker.
ua-cam.com/video/7IRh8Cn2loE/v-deo.html ). This will offer valuable insight and increase the likelihood of a good match between you and the provider and a positive experience overall. We always welcome hearing from you!
The inner voice of parents is unique, you won't regret listening to it.
I have a five year old child who is very strong willed and bad at expressive language. I think that he fits the bill but I'm not sure. I'd like to see some other children to see how he compares. The professionals I've spoken to think that it's autism but we haven't had an official diagnosis. He's good at reading and solving problems, he's hard to toilet train also.
Do you have any recommendations for clinicians in the UK?
I put up this video:
ua-cam.com/video/w-jaWXDKca0/v-deo.html
This is my summary of what the book “The Einstein Syndrome” by Thomas Sowell says are characteristics of late talking children who also have above average intelligence.
Family Members:
More likely to be engineers, scientists, accountants, or other analysts
Likely to be musicians
Likely to be late-talking
Child and parents likely to focus in closely on whatever they are doing
Child Characteristics:
Speech - late speaking and/or slow to gain words
Social development - less social than other children their age, likely to prefer to play with adults or by themselves
Interested in letters and/or numbers
Late to potty train
Better than average memory
Better than average at puzzles
Pediatrician Thoughts - If your pediatrician is convinced of a diagnosis, get an INDEPENDENT evaluation by a speech pathologist who does not financially benefit from speech therapy or autism treatment
Hello,
I recommended you contact the Late Talkers Foundation at info@latetalkers.org or at (001) 615-866-9457 for advice on moving forward in the UK. :-). Mary Camarata.
Wow! nice concise summary. :-) Mary.