VHSC, the format that should never have even existed. Here in the UK, the format died a death when 8mm took almost the entire camcorder market, manufacturers either swapped sides (such as Sharp) or gave up (Philips) and even Matsushita built 8mm camcorders (not sure what brand they were marketed as). Only JVC and Panasonic brands slogged on trying to sell these things to grannies who knew no better, until miniDV came along.
@@michaelturner4457 no VHSc only existed because jvc would never support 8mm video. Full size VHS was too big so they came out with this crap. Vhsc was the poorest quality camcorders except for the Fisher price pxl2000
I had 2 different cameras given to me this last week, they're not quite as old as the one your working on in this video but, I think they're pretty cool looking. They both take the miniature DVDs. #1 Cam is a Canon DC210 DVD camcorder. #2 Cam is a Hitachi DZ-GX5020A Model. The last one I had to charge up with my power supply. They both work, I just need to take the time to figure out what each one does. Both of them came with a disk. One of them works with a rewritable disk. I think they are two pieces of cool technology & it's amazing how they can cram all the electronics into such a small space. I wouldn't want to work on them try to fix them if they were broke . I've watched you do it on some videos, it's pretty amazing! Everything nowadays is solid-state and a lot easier to make, for the manufacturers and a lot easier to work on, for the repair guys.
what you can do about camcorder batteries. gutt out the nicd batteries and keep the baseplate , get a dc to dc converter (usually a few bucks on ebay) , and use 18650 liion cells / powerbank
I have a JVC GR-C1 that is loading super slow, it shuts off before it completes the loading cycle. Also I replaced both belts, there isn't a loading belt. Sometimes I get it to complete the cycle and it will work.
@@12voltvids yes because the same happened to my jvc camcorder I turned it on but the video was all snowy but when I recorded a video on it and it recorded perfectly. Thanks
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing it. I haven't checked your back catalog yet but have you done any digital SLR or other digital camera repairs besides video cameras?
This might sound comically strange, but I think that ‘90s camcorders made for VHS-C and Video 8, particularly those made by Sony, are kinda shaped like wrens, with the pop- up eyepiece resembling the jutting tail. 😂
I believe the reason that cameras were designed to look like they did was so that they resembled the movie cameras of the 50s and 60s and 70s. I much prefer to camcorder that you put up on your shoulder because you could use it for a much longer period of time then the handycam style. but then I was trained as a professional camera operator when I went to school. Yes I went to broadcast School that was my first choice of employment. Thinking back now though I'm glad I didn't go down that road because I know many a camera operator that has big time back problems now from carrying around 40 lb BETACAM all day and that's what those original ones weighed.
I recently bought an old vhs c camer (prob from mid 80s) and it works but the head dosent wanna play anny cassetes but when i tried to record something and play it thru adapter it was black and white and it was blinking. Idk what to do, the heads look like they miss some of those orange plating.
That recorder looks like a piece of junk, nightmare! You said " I don't know where the scope goes on this one" and probably don't care to be bothered to find out, where the scope goes either! Lol. Good job working on it though!
Well the preamp is right next to the head so somewhere in there. I don't care though. I can get it close enough by looking at the monitor. Not to factory specs but doesn't matter as it isn't going back into service.
I found my family's old Panasonic PV-A228 camcorder that uses these VHSC tapes... They play back fine and I was able to digitize some good memories for them, but the audio has some quite terrible flutter when being played back. Sounds like people are "talking into a fan", y'know? Anyone got tips on how to approach this?
I have a Sony 8mm tape camcorder and a canon dv tape camcorder too,,,just imagine what it would b like if u came across one of them for repairs,,,as they're smaller than the compact vhs camcorders. My cameras still work as they should,,,even tho I don't have a lot of use for them,,,as I actually have a Sony hd camera which records on the sd card,,,but pity it does not have a viewfinder,,,only the swing out display screen to see the picture and indicators. The other 2 old camcorders both have viewfinder eyepieces and viewscreens too.
I still have a ccdtr81 hi8. I fixed it a few times. I have 2 HDV cameras that use the minidv tape to record and play hd video. They will also work in sd as well. I have a jvc hd camera that records to sd cards. Popped the image sensor on that with a laser. Jvc have shitty sensors as I have never damaged my Sony. Speaking of Sony my first hd sd based camera the cx220 had no viewfinder. My son stole that one and he probably doesn't know where it is now. My current production cameras are sony 4k cameras. An hdr ax100 and ax33. The 33 being the primary camera as it is small enough for my jib crane. Both have eyepiece viewfinders. The ax100 has an oled eye piece. Talk about a great viewfinder. I use that pretty much exclusively. They both have flip out monitors as well and hdmi ports for use with external monitor. They are old by today's standards. I think I got the ax100 in 2015. That is ancient for a camera but sony gave it a software update that made it like a new camera and gave it 100mbit recording. It has a 1" sensor which delivers a stunning picture.
Ok,,,u have a ccdtr81 hi 8 mm video camera. It had just reminded me of our first standard canon 8mm video camera we had bought back as a family in 1992,,,b4 going on a 76 day romantic European tour,,,covering France,,,Belgium,holland,Germany,Italy,Austria,,and Switzerland,,,along with Norway,,Sweden,and Denmark in Scandinavia. We did our own tour in the uk by vehicle rental and staying at many bed and breakfast private homes. That camera went to a lot of work in recording that trip,,,along with other multiple trips my parents had overseas,,,and in Australia. We had a few troubles with that camera,,,mainly with the sound,,,and then the viewfinder died,,,camera was still working,,,,but eventually retired in the end in 2003,,,as that is when they had bought the new canon dv tape camcorder,,and it does take an sd card for taking pics and short videos too. That camera must've got mishandled one day,,as it had damage on the lens ring. Had found out later there was no picture showing from camera mode,, due to a broken zoom lens diopter thing,,,but it still played the tapes ok. It was repaired,,,and it still does work,,,has being in storage,,,but i kept the batteries charged regularly. I have 2 Sony camcorders,,,one as a digital 8mm which only gives a maximum of 90 mins in lp mode. The 2nd Sony hd camcorder I have is only 6 years old,,,records up to at least 6 hours in hd,,long play recording mode,,,on a 64 gb memory card. Sounds like u had repaired your hi8 camcorder a few times,,,and u have also 2 hdv cameras that use mini dv tapes to record and play hd video on a tape,,and sd card as well,,,but never really heard of hd recording on a tape b4. And u have a jvc camcorder that records to sd cards too. But didn't know that jvc had shitty sensors,,as u had one go pop with a laser,,,what happened there? I know jvc were the inventors of vhs video recorders too. I think u have the same Sony cx 220 hd camera like i have here in Australia,,,and yes,,no viewfinder,,,which made it so hard to see the lcd screen when recording in daylight hours. Pity how your son stole it,,and now he,s lost it on you? You should make him get u a new one for replacement. With the 4k cameras u have now,,,is it one of them you use to do the videos on you tube on the jib crane? At least the picture and sound quality are really excellent as i have watched many of your videos now and learn a bit more too on repairing my vintage stereo equipment,etc, I have here in Australia.
What do you do with dead camcorders / electronics that you can't repair or have missing pieces? I'm building a vintage electronics collection and modify the cosmetics, I don't care about whether they're functional. If you ever plan of getting rid of them in LOTs I might be interested.
Different manufacture likely. Panasonic made many of their own capacitors. Sony didn't. They had to buy from other larger companies like Sanyo and we all know how good sanyo stuff was.
That was fun ha ha :-D Yep that camera can never be reliable as the control head side just fixes itself. Small camcorders look neat but they are too fragile, i've seen ones with slight twists in the loading mech, a bloody pain to get them reliable again.
Could have been. Impatient people. Send a text and expect a reply instantly. I didn't reply so they sent another asking if I received it, and then another asking for a response. It was a pain in the ass person that thinks they are my friend. Wants me to go and fix a cable on his house that he damaged. I told him to call his internet provider and get them out. (He is a customer of the competition to my employer so there is not a snowball's chance in hell I am helping him). Of course he says I will pay me but that is beside the point. I don't do any work for anyone that I do on my day job. Ever. That is what I am paid to do at work and my employer would have a very big problem with that. The fact that people have the nerve to call me at home wanting me to do under table work just blows my mind. I can do av repairs at home because it does not cause a conflict of interest at work, but I will not do any work for anyone that involves any type of home networking or security equipment work such as cameras. I demo the diy cameras and how to set them up but I can't install them because I do that as my day job and will never jeopardize my day job by doing the same work off the books. I don't want to create any confusion of conflict of interest.
@@12voltvids I can understand that, there's always people that want you because you can do things for them, but don't want to return the favour, or expect you to work for "mates rates" I gave up on that because they're not real friends!
@@nickfatsis9607 I ignore the messages and then get a half done more wanting a reply. I finally got back to him. Told him I was put riding my Harley. I am surprised he hasn't asked to take it for a spin.
one of the white oval pieces fell out & all my videos are coming out crappy ! got i for 50$ !! sumhow they got the tapes workin but i see nun but static & when i do get film it has lots of vertical roll 🥺 plz plz help
I was rather expecting it to be condemned as non working immediately. Maybe Panasonic camcorder electrolytic caps better than Sony ones? Like Sony 1990s Sony camcorders are usually dead due to bad caps.
Sony and Canon were the real bad ones for bad capacitors. Mostly during the 80's. I was expecting it to be a total loss too, but I was just as surprised as you.
I don't think I could fart around with that fiddly awkward plastic thing. I don't have the patience, I used to have but it has got up and gone. Just not worth the time and energy and my blood pressure looking at something like that, so more power to your elbow for even bothering to look at it.
The Emergency Broadcast System will probably claim a copyright claim on you using the audible "tone" , and the rainbow coalition for showing the color bar test pattern. Just kidding around., or is YT really that ridiculous?
VHSC, the format that should never have even existed. Here in the UK, the format died a death when 8mm took almost the entire camcorder market, manufacturers either swapped sides (such as Sharp) or gave up (Philips) and even Matsushita built 8mm camcorders (not sure what brand they were marketed as). Only JVC and Panasonic brands slogged on trying to sell these things to grannies who knew no better, until miniDV came along.
VHS-C probably only existed because Sony had Betamovie.
@@michaelturner4457 no VHSc only existed because jvc would never support 8mm video. Full size VHS was too big so they came out with this crap. Vhsc was the poorest quality camcorders except for the Fisher price pxl2000
I had 2 different cameras given to me this last week, they're not quite as old as the one your working on in this video but, I think they're pretty cool looking. They both take the miniature DVDs.
#1 Cam is a Canon DC210 DVD camcorder.
#2 Cam is a Hitachi DZ-GX5020A Model.
The last one I had to charge up with my power supply. They both work, I just need to take the time to figure out what each one does. Both of them came with a disk. One of them works with a rewritable disk.
I think they are two pieces of cool technology & it's amazing how they can cram all the electronics into such a small space. I wouldn't want to work on them try to fix them if they were broke . I've watched you do it on some videos, it's pretty amazing! Everything nowadays is solid-state and a lot easier to make, for the manufacturers and a lot easier to work on, for the repair guys.
Now that is something right up my alley. I have never had a DVD writing camera.
Not really easier to work on, you just throw it away and start over.
what you can do about camcorder batteries. gutt out the nicd batteries and keep the baseplate , get a dc to dc converter (usually a few bucks on ebay) , and use 18650 liion cells / powerbank
Pretty much as long as the voltage is close!
Just boot em with a drill battery , TAP TAP done
I have a JVC GR-C1 that is loading super slow, it shuts off before it completes the loading cycle. Also I replaced both belts, there isn't a loading belt. Sometimes I get it to complete the cycle and it will work.
Hi 12voltvids what a nightmare this always happens you take it apart knowing it's broken and it just fixes itself. Keep up the good videos
Could have been the connector where the control head plug in. Throwing into record applied the record bias voltage which "fixed" the connection.
@@12voltvids yes because the same happened to my jvc camcorder I turned it on but the video was all snowy but when I recorded a video on it and it recorded perfectly. Thanks
You're lucky you didn't have to repair a Amstrad Fidelity vmc 100 a vhs c plastic toy , with a plastic viewfinder . (a ex sony uk engineer).
All the worst camcorders were VHSC. There was also a Chinon branded VHSC pile of utter garbage.
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VHSc was a joke. They were made for a price point to undercut the 8mm cameras
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing it. I haven't checked your back catalog yet but have you done any digital SLR or other digital camera repairs besides video cameras?
No dslr cameras and probably will never do one because I am not in the business and haven't been since 2003.
3:45 - or is it the alignment on the wedding? ;-) Great video again, thank you for posting
The wedding tape was bad. I figure it had been recorded on this camera.
It's been erased now as it had already been copied.
This is awesome
Great video sharing love ❤️ and stay connected
This might sound comically strange, but I think that ‘90s camcorders made for VHS-C and Video 8, particularly those made by Sony, are kinda shaped like wrens, with the pop- up eyepiece resembling the jutting tail. 😂
I believe the reason that cameras were designed to look like they did was so that they resembled the movie cameras of the 50s and 60s and 70s. I much prefer to camcorder that you put up on your shoulder because you could use it for a much longer period of time then the handycam style. but then I was trained as a professional camera operator when I went to school. Yes I went to broadcast School that was my first choice of employment. Thinking back now though I'm glad I didn't go down that road because I know many a camera operator that has big time back problems now from carrying around 40 lb BETACAM all day and that's what those original ones weighed.
Interesting video thankyou.
I recently bought an old vhs c camer (prob from mid 80s) and it works but the head dosent wanna play anny cassetes but when i tried to record something and play it thru adapter it was black and white and it was blinking. Idk what to do, the heads look like they miss some of those orange plating.
That recorder looks like a piece of junk, nightmare!
You said " I don't know where the scope goes on this one" and probably don't care to be bothered to find out, where the scope goes either! Lol.
Good job working on it though!
Well the preamp is right next to the head so somewhere in there. I don't care though. I can get it close enough by looking at the monitor. Not to factory specs but doesn't matter as it isn't going back into service.
I found my family's old Panasonic PV-A228 camcorder that uses these VHSC tapes... They play back fine and I was able to digitize some good memories for them, but the audio has some quite terrible flutter when being played back. Sounds like people are "talking into a fan", y'know? Anyone got tips on how to approach this?
How can we repurpose these into a desktop monocule magnifier with a small extra screen to view work?🎉❤😅
I have a Sony 8mm tape camcorder and a canon dv tape camcorder too,,,just imagine what it would b like if u came across one of them for repairs,,,as they're smaller than the compact vhs camcorders.
My cameras still work as they should,,,even tho I don't have a lot of use for them,,,as I actually have a Sony hd camera which records on the sd card,,,but pity it does not have a viewfinder,,,only the swing out display screen to see the picture and indicators.
The other 2 old camcorders both have viewfinder eyepieces and viewscreens too.
I still have a ccdtr81 hi8. I fixed it a few times. I have 2 HDV cameras that use the minidv tape to record and play hd video. They will also work in sd as well. I have a jvc hd camera that records to sd cards. Popped the image sensor on that with a laser. Jvc have shitty sensors as I have never damaged my Sony. Speaking of Sony my first hd sd based camera the cx220 had no viewfinder. My son stole that one and he probably doesn't know where it is now. My current production cameras are sony 4k cameras. An hdr ax100 and ax33. The 33 being the primary camera as it is small enough for my jib crane. Both have eyepiece viewfinders. The ax100 has an oled eye piece. Talk about a great viewfinder. I use that pretty much exclusively. They both have flip out monitors as well and hdmi ports for use with external monitor. They are old by today's standards. I think I got the ax100 in 2015. That is ancient for a camera but sony gave it a software update that made it like a new camera and gave it 100mbit recording. It has a 1" sensor which delivers a stunning picture.
Ok,,,u have a ccdtr81 hi 8 mm video camera. It had just reminded me of our first standard canon 8mm video camera we had bought back as a family in 1992,,,b4 going on a 76 day romantic European tour,,,covering France,,,Belgium,holland,Germany,Italy,Austria,,and Switzerland,,,along with Norway,,Sweden,and Denmark in Scandinavia.
We did our own tour in the uk by vehicle rental and staying at many bed and breakfast private homes.
That camera went to a lot of work in recording that trip,,,along with other multiple trips my parents had overseas,,,and in Australia. We had a few troubles with that camera,,,mainly with the sound,,,and then the viewfinder died,,,camera was still working,,,,but eventually retired in the end in 2003,,,as that is when they had bought the new canon dv tape camcorder,,and it does take an sd card for taking pics and short videos too. That camera must've got mishandled one day,,as it had damage on the lens ring. Had found out later there was no picture showing from camera mode,, due to a broken zoom lens diopter thing,,,but it still played the tapes ok. It was repaired,,,and it still does work,,,has being in storage,,,but i kept the batteries charged regularly.
I have 2 Sony camcorders,,,one as a digital 8mm which only gives a maximum of 90 mins in lp mode. The 2nd Sony hd camcorder I have is only 6 years old,,,records up to at least 6 hours in hd,,long play recording mode,,,on a 64 gb memory card.
Sounds like u had repaired your hi8 camcorder a few times,,,and u have also 2 hdv cameras that use mini dv tapes to record and play hd video on a tape,,and sd card as well,,,but never really heard of hd recording on a tape b4. And u have a jvc camcorder that records to sd cards too. But didn't know that jvc had shitty sensors,,as u had one go pop with a laser,,,what happened there?
I know jvc were the inventors of vhs video recorders too.
I think u have the same Sony cx 220 hd camera like i have here in Australia,,,and yes,,no viewfinder,,,which made it so hard to see the lcd screen when recording in daylight hours. Pity how your son stole it,,and now he,s lost it on you? You should make him get u a new one for replacement. With the 4k cameras u have now,,,is it one of them you use to do the videos on you tube on the jib crane?
At least the picture and sound quality are really excellent as i have watched many of your videos now and learn a bit more too on repairing my vintage stereo equipment,etc, I have here in Australia.
What do you do with dead camcorders / electronics that you can't repair or have missing pieces? I'm building a vintage electronics collection and modify the cosmetics, I don't care about whether they're functional. If you ever plan of getting rid of them in LOTs I might be interested.
The non repairable stuff is sent to recycling.
no bad caps? did it get a good batch of them?
Different manufacture likely. Panasonic made many of their own capacitors. Sony didn't. They had to buy from other larger companies like Sanyo and we all know how good sanyo stuff was.
That was fun ha ha :-D
Yep that camera can never be reliable as the control head side just fixes itself.
Small camcorders look neat but they are too fragile, i've seen ones with slight twists in the loading mech, a bloody pain to get them reliable again.
Sir I have Panasonic Pv 100 camera his dailer his not working in up and down but work in selcetion it;s very probelm in manual plz help me sir
Is that the "F" word I can hear at 2:47?
Could have been. Impatient people. Send a text and expect a reply instantly. I didn't reply so they sent another asking if I received it, and then another asking for a response. It was a pain in the ass person that thinks they are my friend. Wants me to go and fix a cable on his house that he damaged. I told him to call his internet provider and get them out. (He is a customer of the competition to my employer so there is not a snowball's chance in hell I am helping him). Of course he says I will pay me but that is beside the point. I don't do any work for anyone that I do on my day job. Ever. That is what I am paid to do at work and my employer would have a very big problem with that. The fact that people have the nerve to call me at home wanting me to do under table work just blows my mind. I can do av repairs at home because it does not cause a conflict of interest at work, but I will not do any work for anyone that involves any type of home networking or security equipment work such as cameras. I demo the diy cameras and how to set them up but I can't install them because I do that as my day job and will never jeopardize my day job by doing the same work off the books. I don't want to create any confusion of conflict of interest.
@@12voltvids I can understand that, there's always people that want you because you can do things for them, but don't want to return the favour, or expect you to work for "mates rates" I gave up on that because they're not real friends!
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I ignore the messages and then get a half done more wanting a reply. I finally got back to him. Told him I was put riding my Harley. I am surprised he hasn't asked to take it for a spin.
one of the white oval pieces fell out & all my videos are coming out crappy ! got i for 50$ !! sumhow they got the tapes workin but i see nun but static & when i do get film it has lots of vertical roll 🥺 plz plz help
I was rather expecting it to be condemned as non working immediately. Maybe Panasonic camcorder electrolytic caps better than Sony ones? Like Sony 1990s Sony camcorders are usually dead due to bad caps.
Sony and Canon were the real bad ones for bad capacitors. Mostly during the 80's. I was expecting it to be a total loss too, but I was just as surprised as you.
Also Sony 90's portable radios have the bad cap plague.
I put all the screws in things too to throw things in the garbage, must be a mental illness. LOL
I never intended to put this back together. And then it worked.
@@12voltvids was part of the unexplained Hey thanks for taking garbage and teaching me things I would never learn
Do you think you could fix mine?
Anything can be fixed but the cost is more than unit is worth.
37:32 - 38:28 Crunchy-crunchy :-)
VHS - C with CRT ? sorted , useless on tablet .
What the hell is that NOSE !
I don't think I could fart around with that fiddly awkward plastic thing. I don't have the patience, I used to have but it has got up and gone. Just not worth the time and energy and my blood pressure looking at something like that, so more power to your elbow for even bothering to look at it.
The Emergency Broadcast System will probably claim a copyright claim on you using the audible "tone" , and the rainbow coalition for showing the color bar test pattern. Just kidding around., or is YT really that ridiculous?
It is not yt that is the problem. It is 3rd party companies making bogus fraudulent claims trying to cash in on other people's work.