Hi everyone sorry I made a mistake in the video. The exploded parts diagram shows no hop-up but it turns out there is fixed hop-up on the gun, which I confirmed visually. Sorry for the confusion! - Marck
I really like Marcks videos, he goes into great detail and talks about things a lot of others don't. I am also a big Tim fan. If only they could both do videos!
I'm going to be the one weird guy but the pump shot gun is on of 2 guns I don't mind being a springer in fact I prefer it in the pump as I never have to worry about battery or running out of gas lol
Small thing but I like how he shows actual footage of movies, video games and actual use of the real steel in the intro. Much better than just mentioning them! Great video
Marck is getting better and better! This channel has had different presenters and I've liked all of them for different reasons. Marck is starting to hit his stride. Keep up the good work!
Marui should definitely remake the SPAS-12 to be a gas pump shotgun or maybe even semi auto gbb if they could, that would be badass and I think it deserves a remake.
Fastest Gun NJ the moment when the airsoft one isn’t cycling any shells per pump and is running off a single shell with 6 shots. (So there really isn’t any pump shotgun mechanism other than being a toy) Sounds pretty ass considering the whole idea of the KSG was it was short and held 14+1 shots.
RedWolf Airsoft, Couple of corrections: It does have a hop-op. If you open up a new box, the little tag on the tigger guard tells you so. What it doesn't have is a adjustable hop-up, just like the TM M870 and Breacher shotgun. It's a fixed model for use with .20 BB's but still usable with .25, albeit with less range? Also, the TM plastic is not 'High Quality, or perhaps we have different standards :). By all means, it's not bad! It's just not that high quality ;).
Sam Guglin Not really true... slam fire is just silly as you don't get to reset your trigger, and most of all, it's unrealistic as no safe shotguns would have that by default. You can also time your trigger pull to a point where the speed is indistinguishable from "slam fire" when using other shotgun platform like the old Marushin, If you're not using an AEG against AEG, but opted for something like pump action or gas blowback, it's likely because you care about realism and other aspects of the game over just laser beaming BBs everywhere in order to "win"..
Slam fire works amazingly well on my springer shotgun using the Marui shells, and in my local cqb field it is absolutely amazing for keeping heads down. Also, on my springer the reset on the trigger is so long that it is easier and faster to use slam fire when I need rounds down range. As for the realism every shotgun issued by the united states during both world wars was slamfire capable, and the master key system was also slamfire capable. An enormous number of modern shotguns are also capable of slamfire
I love the way the shell is inserted that alone would make me choose the KSG instead of the M870 and its weird door. It's true that the synchronisation of pumping and triger finger comes quite naturally - especially when there is a pump lock which doesn't allow you to go out of sync. I can shoot super fast with my Maruzen CA870 springer (but that has almost sniper-grade trigger). Well in the end I went for the AA12 which SUPERB and I haven't have so much fun just plain shooting an airsoft gun for some time. The BB cloud which it can generate is just epic. Can't wait to get money for the drum, or if some brand introduce higher capacity mid-caps (I believe 180 round mid-cap mags can be done - these exist for M14 and are super reliable and are smaller than AA12 mags). Sorry to digress I just had to - both are TM shotguns ;) I just love TM - they are not afraid to do new things.
excellent videos! I really enjoy these reviews, you guys are honest and fair in your reviews and really pay attention to what a potential buyer and airsoft player wants to know. thank you so much for making these videos and I'll be rooting for you to keep it up!
The only thing that worries me is the amount of shots you get per reload. The real steel version allows multiple shells in a mag. With this, you only have one shell at a time.
but mark can be better than Tim if ya'll support him, not f*ck'n spamming him. I like Arclight, Taz (what a hot airsofter girl) and then Tim......I like them all, but they all gone from RWTV
I was watching this thinking it was the real thing this whole time. I got so excited when I thought I could remove the top layer and choose whether I can switch to 3 or 6 shot xD haha!! I got super confused when I saw him introduce the gas from behind the gun. That's when I knew something was up with the gun he's showing.
I've always thought it would be smarter to just have an integrated tank with a external fill valve. It would honestly probably be faster and easier than trying to remove and replace that gas tank every time
These gas guns are neat, but after months of considering them, I’m just gonna stick with my old Tokyo Marui M3 shorty. I use it as a back up, and prefer its simplicity.
Kornel Cajka the 870 is much larger than the ksg. The ksg allows for faster play. I typically hated using the 870 because it was much longer from grip to barrel end where as the KSG isn't longer. Also... 70 shots? that's pretty damn good for gas efficiency. if you need more than 70 a match when play CQC you're either garbage or sit in a corner and spray at everything that walks by... so either mp7 GGB or 870 ggb
If you're referring to CQB then obviously no-one would purchase a full size 870 but rather the 870 breacher. The breacher is shorther by 140mm. It does however have a barrel shorter by 50mm but this is negligible considering the fact its a CQB gun. The gas effeciency is about 50 shots, all of the gas is stored in the grip so it does not have a stock meaning it should be better for CQB. The loading system for the KSG is totally half-assed and the fact the shell insertion location is really far away you cant use 5-6 bbs, only 3. Reliably that is. The m870 has none of the drawbacks listed in this bottom paragraph.
i only like accurate replicas, if a shotgun is not gas and shell ejecting, then its a no for me, but im sure many airsofters will like this gun if it is the type of gun that they like....nothing else to say.
gas, yes. shell ejecting, no. I like the TM 870's style of gas power and using springer shells. Edit: Apparently this one is gas too. Maybe it's not so bad then.
well im not into going to games to play airsoft, i just like playing around with the guns and shooting things, im not a CQB player, i dont skerm bruh...lol, so having shell ejection is cool, plus GBB feels better.
Whisky Hotel Hey I know I pretty late, but I was looking to buy one of these as a primary to run with my mk23 for the longer ranges. I have a scattergun now, so would you say it’s worth it?
Loopsrainforest I don't even know why I commented that....maybe because I'm sick as a dog....my comment was odd and then your comment back made this thing even more awkward.....and now this comment is making this even more awkward...
OP Airsoft Haha. That's awesome! I'm not trolling but just trying to help. I'd recommend checking out the TM M870's Owners group on Facebook before buying a TM shotty. Running one on green gas is like having a super hot girlfriend that keeps cheating on you & crashing your car.
Dear RWA I wonder if APS or PPS will have a go at releasing a more realistic shell eject version?? If anyone has any slight rumours that they will then I WILL NOT buy this gun, however If not then I'll get this straight away!
i actually really liked the slamfire thing on the 870. and this thing has loading in the back....i think the 870 has better loading and it has a much bigger gas tank and other gas stocks? (g&P, angry gun?) i just think the 870 is better
@@yes571 in Airsoft it's doesn't shoot 12 gauge either. Lugging around a long lmg in cqb is cancer. Iam not using real steel logic here, it's just more practical to have something smaller. + If I only have a shotgun and need to suppress someone while walking I'd rather have it be in fullauto or slamfire
no hop flimsy parts seems one shell awkward shell ejection(broken shells) shitty trigger "fixed" slam fire aka no slam fire dummy dummy dummy "compact" *cough* tiny *cough* gas tank. bad range I'll keep my money thanks
Hi everyone sorry I made a mistake in the video. The exploded parts diagram shows no hop-up but it turns out there is fixed hop-up on the gun, which I confirmed visually. Sorry for the confusion! - Marck
RedWolf Airsoft bring back tim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#bringbacktimXDNOHATE
I really like Marcks videos, he goes into great detail and talks about things a lot of others don't. I am also a big Tim fan. If only they could both do videos!
Yes, Marck has gotten very good with his videos recently.
Sorry Marck its just PornStash has a waaaaaay smoother and sexier voice. Miss Tim
I'm going to be the one weird guy but the pump shot gun is on of 2 guns I don't mind being a springer in fact I prefer it in the pump as I never have to worry about battery or running out of gas lol
Small thing but I like how he shows actual footage of movies, video games and actual use of the real steel in the intro. Much better than just mentioning them! Great video
Marck is getting better and better! This channel has had different presenters and I've liked all of them for different reasons. Marck is starting to hit his stride. Keep up the good work!
As a real KSG owner, I love how accurate this design is to my favorite shotgun that I own
Marui should definitely remake the SPAS-12 to be a gas pump shotgun or maybe even semi auto gbb if they could, that would be badass and I think it deserves a remake.
9:54 so that's why airsoft packages have holes in them
That moment when the airsoft version cycles more reliably than the real-steel.
I own one. No malfunctions yet. First gen had some problems. Mines a second gen, and I love it; especially with mods from High-Tec Custom Concepts.
Fastest Gun NJ the moment when the airsoft one isn’t cycling any shells per pump and is running off a single shell with 6 shots. (So there really isn’t any pump shotgun mechanism other than being a toy) Sounds pretty ass considering the whole idea of the KSG was it was short and held 14+1 shots.
I also have the real steel version, Gen 2. Its badass, you will only have cycling issues if you are a wussy boy and short rack the pump.
You wouldn't know.. go play with your toys
RedWolf Airsoft,
Couple of corrections:
It does have a hop-op. If you open up a new box, the little tag on the tigger guard tells you so.
What it doesn't have is a adjustable hop-up, just like the TM M870 and Breacher shotgun. It's a fixed model for use with .20 BB's but still usable with .25, albeit with less range?
Also, the TM plastic is not 'High Quality, or perhaps we have different standards :). By all means, it's not bad! It's just not that high quality ;).
My mistake. It does have fixed hop-up. - Marck
Maarten De R. Yeah my AA12 split down the rear last night after I tripped and fell
Shotguns, the llamas of the gun world.
what do u mean by that
They spit
lol
Braeden Hamson And that again means?
It very very goood if Marui made AA-12 , SPAS-12 In GBB System Shotgun
I have seen literally no reason to buy this over the 870, and I find it truly disappointing considering that the AA12 exists
Well, the 870 has the retarded slam fire where as this doesn't, that alone is a reason for some people.
you don't like slam fire? I think it is downright necessary when you are going up against full auto
For me it would be the doors of the M870 to push me towards the KSG. Loading of the KSG must be much more satisfying.
Sam Guglin Not really true... slam fire is just silly as you don't get to reset your trigger, and most of all, it's unrealistic as no safe shotguns would have that by default. You can also time your trigger pull to a point where the speed is indistinguishable from "slam fire" when using other shotgun platform like the old Marushin, If you're not using an AEG against AEG, but opted for something like pump action or gas blowback, it's likely because you care about realism and other aspects of the game over just laser beaming BBs everywhere in order to "win"..
Slam fire works amazingly well on my springer shotgun using the Marui shells, and in my local cqb field it is absolutely amazing for keeping heads down. Also, on my springer the reset on the trigger is so long that it is easier and faster to use slam fire when I need rounds down range. As for the realism every shotgun issued by the united states during both world wars was slamfire capable, and the master key system was also slamfire capable. An enormous number of modern shotguns are also capable of slamfire
Not having the ability to shoot at least one shell from each tube was a wasted opportunity here.
Right. The double barrel is what makes this shotgun. Deffs wasted opportunity
I'd love Marui to remaster their SPAS or M3, these date back to the all plastic and squeaky times...
I love the way the shell is inserted that alone would make me choose the KSG instead of the M870 and its weird door.
It's true that the synchronisation of pumping and triger finger comes quite naturally - especially when there is a pump lock which doesn't allow you to go out of sync. I can shoot super fast with my Maruzen CA870 springer (but that has almost sniper-grade trigger).
Well in the end I went for the AA12 which SUPERB and I haven't have so much fun just plain shooting an airsoft gun for some time. The BB cloud which it can generate is just epic. Can't wait to get money for the drum, or if some brand introduce higher capacity mid-caps (I believe 180 round mid-cap mags can be done - these exist for M14 and are super reliable and are smaller than AA12 mags). Sorry to digress I just had to - both are TM shotguns ;)
I just love TM - they are not afraid to do new things.
excellent videos! I really enjoy these reviews, you guys are honest and fair in your reviews and really pay attention to what a potential buyer and airsoft player wants to know. thank you so much for making these videos and I'll be rooting for you to keep it up!
The M870 I think is 100 shots. I'm for sure taking thr M870 in consideration. I want to maintain that power.
placed 6.01 barrels and upgraded de fixed hopup, hoa tap on the side, plays like a champ
Never forgot the MW3 KSG that was godly
Youve improved so much man, keep it up!
Nice work Marck. Heaps better than your earlier videos
The only thing that worries me is the amount of shots you get per reload. The real steel version allows multiple shells in a mag. With this, you only have one shell at a time.
Great job, Marck! Keep up the great work!
Dont use a foregrip on that plastic rail, you might blow off your hand like the real thing.
or break the rail (cuz its plastic)
I heard dummy barrel and left
It holds shells it does its job.
think this might be a must cop
No hop up? Is it April 1st already?
My mistake. There is actually fixed hop-up. - Marck
bruh itss called slam fire. were you can hold the trigger and keep pumping shots, thats not a bad thing it just makes it faster to shoot.
feybowsnipers gaming channel umm who are u talking too
@Redwolf Airsoft. The Hop is there, it's just fixed. (You even mention it on your website)
Yes you are right. Sorry for the confusion. - Marck
3:50 isnt a defect, its just a feature some shotguns like pre-75 ithaca 37s have that is called slamfiring
finally, a RW video without some brats ranting "I want tim"
I want tim
Yet
shut up and dont comment, Tim will not come back anymore
we know tim is better
but mark can be better than Tim if ya'll support him, not f*ck'n spamming him. I like Arclight, Taz (what a hot airsofter girl) and then Tim......I like them all, but they all gone from RWTV
Awesome vid dude, good job
they finally came out witta ksg for airsoft
im finna get this
Hi Marck loving your reviews, What is the foregrip flashlight you are using?
I was watching this thinking it was the real thing this whole time. I got so excited when I thought I could remove the top layer and choose whether I can switch to 3 or 6 shot xD haha!! I got super confused when I saw him introduce the gas from behind the gun. That's when I knew something was up with the gun he's showing.
"Blows the M870 out of the water?"
I don't think so
lol I was thinking of that and kinda laughed at the range or lack of in this gun compared to the 870.
and the m870 has a bigger gas tank too
If you want perfs, no.
If you want a more unique shotgun, yes.
Damn this guy is good,I love Marck and Tim both xD
Does it shoot a little high and to the right or was your optic not zeroed in
There is a new selector switch for The KSG on UA-cam called the FTSS, check it out.
I definitely gotta get one, they are extremely easy to hpa tap too just like the TM 870 is
What kind of gas can you use in the KSG ?
Would greengas/ propane be too powerfull?
This may sound like a dumb question but do you fill the tank with green gas?
actually picked one up today the gas but pad is kinda a pain once it's in
is there upgradable metal parts?
Hi I was wondering if you have any spare gear for airsofting because my mum and dad can't afford it
Any video that show how to out the new quick release wide lever??
I've always thought it would be smarter to just have an integrated tank with a external fill valve. It would honestly probably be faster and easier than trying to remove and replace that gas tank every time
How accurate is this gun? Also, it is a good primary?
Yes.
Although there's also the TM AA-12 and SGR-12, and soon, hopefully, the Krytac Origin 12
man, aa-12 and the ksg both get released in the same year? I think we're getting spoiled guys.
Where’d you get the light????
spred is kinda the point of a shot gun i would think. but maybe a spreadcontrole would be a future design upgrad
My question is why not make it spring instead of gas... Seems more logical for a pump action.
What is Marck's callsign again?
yo ,whats the FPS of the KSG
Wait so when does it come out? I may have missed it if it had said it.
These gas guns are neat, but after months of considering them, I’m just gonna stick with my old Tokyo Marui M3 shorty. I use it as a back up, and prefer its simplicity.
no hop up OR not adjustable?
Kinda sounds like the real steel just alittle lighter. Love my RS KSG!
What grip-torch combo is that i want it bad aha
The KSG may blow the M870, but not out the water.
The only thing it can blow off is your hands if you're not careful enough
Kornel Cajka the 870 is much larger than the ksg. The ksg allows for faster play. I typically hated using the 870 because it was much longer from grip to barrel end where as the KSG isn't longer. Also... 70 shots? that's pretty damn good for gas efficiency. if you need more than 70 a match when play CQC you're either garbage or sit in a corner and spray at everything that walks by... so either mp7 GGB or 870 ggb
If you're referring to CQB then obviously no-one would purchase a full size 870 but rather the 870 breacher. The breacher is shorther by 140mm. It does however have a barrel shorter by 50mm but this is negligible considering the fact its a CQB gun. The gas effeciency is about 50 shots, all of the gas is stored in the grip so it does not have a stock meaning it should be better for CQB.
The loading system for the KSG is totally half-assed and the fact the shell insertion location is really far away you cant use 5-6 bbs, only 3. Reliably that is. The m870 has none of the drawbacks listed in this bottom paragraph.
is there a version with Magazin like in Killing Floor 1?
weight?
is there any way to hpa this?
what is the prices of the gun
green gas compatible?
Does the gun come with the gas tank and shells? Or are they sold separately?
And how many shells are given?
1 shell and 1 gas tank
When was the KSG-12 added to Arma lll That has to be a mod I cant spawn the weapon lmao. They got played.
Hi
I'll buy an airsoft gun but I do not know what kind of gun I want. can you give some suggestions
Such a quiet review. It doesn't feel the same anymore
i honestly prefer arclight
What about the double barreled ksg
i only like accurate replicas, if a shotgun is not gas and shell ejecting, then its a no for me, but im sure many airsofters will like this gun if it is the type of gun that they like....nothing else to say.
it is gas
i personally think having to load shells and bullets would be a pain when you can just load the pellets themselves in less than half the time
Kolton Chapman ....😕
gas, yes. shell ejecting, no. I like the TM 870's style of gas power and using springer shells. Edit: Apparently this one is gas too. Maybe it's not so bad then.
well im not into going to games to play airsoft, i just like playing around with the guns and shooting things, im not a CQB player, i dont skerm bruh...lol, so having shell ejection is cool, plus GBB feels better.
what happened to tazz, arclight, and tim
Hahaha this presenter is freggen awesome! So professional :)
We still need the dp 12 dating back only to 2015 in real steel. Its the ksg but with 2 barrels. Pump sho shot pump.
I am the actual KSG owner, I can confirm the airsoft looks more reliable than the real steel version....
Whisky Hotel Hey I know I pretty late, but I was looking to buy one of these as a primary to run with my mk23 for the longer ranges. I have a scattergun now, so would you say it’s worth it?
I'm guessing TM made this to run on duster gas like their leak monster M870. I wasted so much time & money on the M870 that I'll never buy another TM.
Well you snooze you lose
OP Airsoft Enjoy your broken dreams shattered expectations.
Loopsrainforest I don't even know why I commented that....maybe because I'm sick as a dog....my comment was odd and then your comment back made this thing even more awkward.....and now this comment is making this even more awkward...
OP Airsoft Haha. That's awesome! I'm not trolling but just trying to help. I'd recommend checking out the TM M870's Owners group on Facebook before buying a TM shotty. Running one on green gas is like having a super hot girlfriend that keeps cheating on you & crashing your car.
Loopsrainforest yeah but when it works it's amazing from what I have heard
Dear RWA
I wonder if APS or PPS will have a go at releasing a more realistic shell eject version?? If anyone has any slight rumours that they will then I WILL NOT buy this gun, however If not then I'll get this straight away!
my wish too
Any reply to your fans @RWA?
Has Redwolf finally discovered the question mark?
wait KSG in arma 3? i through they never released it?
Funny how they mentioned Arma 3 as a game with this gun when the KSG is not in the vanilla game, they must have found a mod for it.
Nice vid! :D
anyone recording?
Like if TM should make a gas powered Spas 12
Damn right, with a semi auto selector
Oh Yeas! That would be a Dream ❤️ Semi & pumpaction and....... With Folding stock with Hook!
I have the TM SPAS 12 with the folding stock and crook. Nice gun.
I too :-) but a new Version would be Great!
Ich wusste dass du das gut findest Bruce darum habe ich es auch kommentiert :D
Ich bin der der neulich wegen der S&T M200 gefragt hat :D
fps?
that sucks it only holds one shell they have a shell ejection port why not use it!
i actually really liked the slamfire thing on the 870. and this thing has loading in the back....i think the 870 has better loading
and it has a much bigger gas tank
and other gas stocks? (g&P, angry gun?)
i just think the 870 is better
I made it halfway through the video without realizing this was an air soft gun lol
CAM 870 shell ejection/ shells and you have a true KSG replica
Lol @ shell tubes
the hold the trigger and pump is a feature from real steel shotguns.
Not the KSG
what would be cool is if they made a double barrel version like the real steel version
Onley needs a co2 version off it an i am sold
plzzzzz tell them to make a spring version
Sorry but He can’t,you have to buy this one instead but I’ll try looking
i wish there was a spring version i hate gas because of how expensive it is
Hpa?
3:50 what do you mean fixed, that is horrible. Slamfire can be so bloody usefull at times
No. Why would you want an automatic shotgun in CQB ? One hit is enough, that's exaclty why the AA-12 is banned everywhere I play.
@@yes571 suppression
@@MrAWESOMElol2 With a shotgun ? Buy an AA12 or a LMG.
The KSG doesn't have slam fire, why would the replica have it ?
@@yes571 in Airsoft it's doesn't shoot 12 gauge either. Lugging around a long lmg in cqb is cancer. Iam not using real steel logic here, it's just more practical to have something smaller. + If I only have a shotgun and need to suppress someone while walking I'd rather have it be in fullauto or slamfire
@@MrAWESOMElol2 Then buy a breacher.
The Marui KSG is made the ones who want a KSG replica, not for suppression.
TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM come back
nice one bre
Where is Tim?
just bought my first tm. a g18c
no hop
flimsy parts
seems
one shell
awkward shell ejection(broken shells)
shitty trigger
"fixed" slam fire aka no slam fire
dummy dummy dummy
"compact" *cough* tiny *cough* gas tank.
bad range
I'll keep my money thanks
Sorry I made a mistake in the video. It has fixed hop-up.
r
Has a hop up
Same range as any other airsoft shotgun
Slam fire is useless in CQB