NOBODY wants to admit THIS about Noah Lyles?! || HONESTLY ranking USA’s GREATEST 100M sprinters!
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Noah Lyles is a #100meter Olympic gold medalist. That makes him one of the greatest #sprinting #trackandfield athletes of his generation. But where does he really rank against the Greatest American sprinters of all time?
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Great to see you two together!! Dream Team!
It's rare to find such an amazing track and field geek out session. Well done!
Justin Gatlin 100%, bc he has:
•Olympic gold, silver, and bronze in the 100m (2004🥇, 2012🥉 2016🥈)
• 2 times world 🥇 with 13 YEARS in between and also 3 World 🥈medal.
•Also ran the most 9,7s ever in a sigle season in 2015 and overall has the most 9,7s of any american and is the 2nd fastest American ever with 9,74
• Equaled the WR in 2006 (9,76)
And 2x🥇 in World indoor champs (2003, 2012)
Coach Rob really called it with Noah
Noah is top 5. Nobody (except Coach Rob) will admit it. Noah consistently is on the podium. He is a solid runner.
Top 5 American 100m sprinters: 1.) Carl Lewis 2.) Maurice Greene (his career got cut short due to injuries) 3.) Jesse Owens (the 1st Olympic superstar) 4.) Justin Gaitlin (say what you want his long longevity was great) 5.) Noah Lyles (he ended the American gold medal drought)
Good Choices
Ummm…you don’t need to defend yourself putting Gat on the list…Da’Gat is the fuqqin’ man and if there were no Bolt, he would have won the last SEVERAL Olympics! LOL…your list is solid!
Yall sleeping on Tyson Gay. 9.69 & 9.71. Two times no other American has ever run. Smh
@@facereality0007 unfortunately those times really hold no weight because he ran in the Bolt era. Medals are more important than times. No one gets a parade or celebration for times, sprinters get celebrated for medals & the most important one Tyson never got. He’s amazing but doesn’t belong in the top 5 without any Olympic gold medals.
@@thegreatdel9679 that's not true because a lot of championship years are watered down with competition or injuries. Tyson Gay still holds 3 separate American records, (100m•150m•200m straight), meaning he's the best aka 'fastest' to Ever do it as an American LOL. Olympic gold is not the only standard esp when other key opponents could be out with injury
Great convos guys! Keep up the great work👍👍
Amazing show, and I’m so with you guys!
Bob Hayes deserves more mentions.
Yes!!
@@jel2106 won a superbowl ring & 100m gold medal is insane. One of the greatest all around athletes ever
Great show Coach Rob!
Americans: Michael Johnson; Spearmon; Gatlin; Carl Lewis, OK; Maurice Green: Batman; Tyson Gay
Johnson didn't run the 100m
@@cosmicwisdom999 Thanks, I was commenting on all the American Track Stars that I could remember being impressed by. I cannot run for the life of me, so I'm impressed by anyone who can do that and win medals.
@margaretfortune2700
Right, I understand, but they were referring to the sprints. Not sure if you remember in 1997 when Johnson and Donavan Bailey of Canada raced and Bailey won? Johnson couldn't keep up and claimed he pulled up, but regardless, he doesn't run the 100m...
Thank you
Damn, Da’Gat didn’t make your list? Gay and Gat should be at the top of the list for the more recents! There are several more, but Gat belongs on there!
Only into the first 3 minutes, but already drawn a conclusion the Tyson Gay is the best 100m American Sprinter ever and Noah Lyles is the best overall American sprinter ever....Records matter for me not just world medals...Tyson is the second fastest human who has ever lived equal to Yohan Blake and Noah Lyles is the 3rd Fastest human ever at 200m and the American record holder...The only other person to surpass Noah as an American sprinter is Michael Johnson. But Johnson was not fast over 100m so he is not in this conversation.
Thank you. Like not because Tyson has never won an individual Olympic medal negates the fact that he’s faster than all American 100m sprinter ever! What gives? Big up Tyson Gay 🏃♂️🥇
Coach Leroy Burrell 90’s
I’m going to base it on a theoretical 100m at Oly if you had all of them in final, weighing PR times, medals at major champs, dominance and bonus points for 200m ranking. I get:
Tyson Gay
Justin Gatlin
Noah Lyles
Carl Lewis
Fred Kerley / Maurice Greene
You guys ain't giving Tyson Gay any love. The AR Holder 9.69. I don't even see the argument here. Starting from his amazing college career as an overall sprinter.
Tyson Gay ran a 9.71 which set an American record to get silver 🥈 behind bolt. Do you have any idea how absurd that is lol? He literally would've won any other championship race in history against any American with that time. Let's be real. Bolt wasn't human. Tyson is a 100m world champion as well. He suffered many injuries at the worst times during peak condition. He has many 9.80s, several 9.7s I know this is 100m ranking only, but his 19.41 straight 200m is absolutely insane AR btw. 14.41 150m AR tied with Noah Lyles. Bottom line is Tyson Gay is the fastest American Ever! That's just a Fact! So how is he Not a Top 5 American 100m Sprinter??????? He's literally tied for 2nd as the FASTEST HUMAN EVER! (Yohan Blake)
In conclusion, He Gay is #1 because no other American has ran faster than his Top 2 times. 9.69 & 9.71 Period!
He also ran 9.80 that got him 4th. That time would've got him top 2 in any other olympic games other than 2012 and 2024. He's very overlooked. People just look at a medal standpoint and overlook the sprinters' performances and where they put themselves in history.
@@Pumpxkin I agree 💯
@@Pumpxkin It's like the 'fastest man in the world' fraudulent title for Noah Lyles just because he *won the Olympics by .001 of a second. It's ridiculous for two reason. Kishane also ran 9.79. And Kishane ran 9.77 this year which is the fastest time in the world. So in reality Kishane is the fastest man in the world with the fastest time in the world
You’re right. It is surprising but it’s because he was Bolt Era so he was practically overshadowed significantly. They’re discussing hardware and getting it done rather than straight times. But could def be in the fold factoring everything.
I lived through the Carl Lewis era to Present. Carl would get the top spot here. One of the things that is missed, the World Championships was held every for years from 1983 to 1991. There is a good chance had the Worlds been held every two years since it’s inception, Carl would have more 100m gold. Certainly, 1985 he was ranked the top 100m sprinter in the world.
In 1989, considering Ben Johnson was serving his two ban, Leroy Burrell was on the come up, there was Linford Christie, Calvin Smith, Dennis Mitchell, Ray Stewart and Robson Disilva, all who was in the 1988 Olympics Finals and outside of Smith 4 of the 5 was in the 100m World Finals in Tokyo 1991, there was a good chance that Carl could have either four or five 100m World Titles.
I'm sure there are more that i'm not remembering, right now; I did not compare times.
Jesse Owens, mourice green, Justin Gatlin, Noah Lyles, and Carl Lewis
Love how you had to remind people this was before the Olympics 😂😂
For Noah the minimum requirements to surpass Gatlin in the 100m he'd need to:
Win 2 more world gold medals
Win no less than silver in his next Olympics
As for Lewis who I also believe is US number one. Noah would basica- No. He'd literally have to replicate Usain Bolt's accomplishments.
Carl 100m golds at Worlds = 3
Bolt 100m golds at Worlds = 3
Carl 100m Golds at Olys = 2
Bolt 100m Golds at Olys = 3
The only thing Noah doesn't need is that 4th World medal at the 100m, which Bolt has the record for in the Mens equal with Gatlin. So I think this would be enough for Noah. He ran run 9.73 or faster to add the cherry on top to just outright surpass all the greats time wise.
Just remember this is for US all time in the 100m.
Great platform.
Nice analysis. I must say though based on your theory of calculations being based on the moment and where things could land as compared to times which I agree with you as far as legacy because when you're talking track no one cares about second or third. Would you say that Julien Alfred is up there for women. Again early but this year has been a superb rookie entrance e
I call Carl Lewis. The best American sprinter ever.
Christian Coleman is the only person to beat bolt everytime they raced which is cool flex
what about Ben Johnson?
Right! If you mention Carl Lewis , the name is synonymous with Jamaican born Canadian Ben Johnson! 😅😅😅
Maurice Greene
Carl Lewis (not a fan but respect the results)
Jesse Owens
Justin Gatlin
Gonna share 5th with Jim Hines and "Bullet" Bob Hayes
All of these guys were dominant. I'd say we're still waiting for someone to be dominant since Bolt (regardless of country)
10:46 If all he cares about is golds the why did he agree to Kerley having a better 100m career than lyles when lyles has 2 Global🥇 and kerly only 1 global🥇 (and 🥈,🥉) ???????????????????
Jessy Owens, Jim Heinz, Carl Lewis, and Maurice Green. I don't know who to pick as 5. Lyles is certainly fast. Does he have staying power? His cocky attitude does not endear him to me. That Olympic win he had very little space out ahead. That does not say "greatness" to me. 6 feet clear of the rest does. If he does that, he is great.
I remember watching the 1984 Olympics. It was the first games I got to see on TV. 1980 was boycotted, plus we had no TV in 1980. I did not see the 1984 Olympics at home. I was on vacation. There was a TV set up in the lobby and there must have been about 50 people watching and cheering on the Americans. It was great. I remember seeing a couple of events of the 1976 Winter Olympics before that at my grandparent house. That is when I first realized the Olympics was a big deal. I was 7. I normally did not watch sports when I was that age, except auto racing. I don't really care about auto racing anymore. My grandmother made me promise to never auto race. She was very insistent. She was rarely like that, and loved her, so I agreed. Up to that point I wanted to be an inventor, an architect, an astronaut and a racecar driver. I found out many years later that she had first cousins, where two of the boys died racing, and the parents later died in an auto accident as well. This would have been in the 19 teens or something. In one race, the wheel got stuck in a gap in the concrete and flipped the backend of the car right over crushing him. There was no roof on the car. The second one caught a nut through the goggles that was launched by the car ahead of him. Suddenly it made sense that she never learned to drive. I think I would have been good, too. My reaction time is very fast, and I have a very long attention span.
How does Fred Kerley has a better 100m career than Noah? 1 world gold and 1 olympic silver. Noah has world gold and Olympic Gold in the 100m beating Kerley. Make it make sense. That guy was hating on Noah right there.
This was before the Olympics, so Noah hadn’t won yet
Can’t put Coleman cos he’s meant to be dominating 100m rn but he’s actually going backwards even though he’s not yet ready to retire.
The guy in the black gets it
Noah lyles is The fastest man on the Planet, you can hate lyles all you like ,but he is still the fastest man, The best and the 👑 KING
For a second, I thought you guys were going to exclude Jesse Owens
Noah lyles, Tyson gay ,Carl lewis Maurice Green ,christain coleman, KERLEY gatlin.
Noah top 3
No Leroy Burrell?
Don't leave out Bob Hayes Jim Hines and John Carlos, please!!
Recency bias: Noah & Coleman not in top 5. What about Jesse Owens, Bob Hayes and Jim Hines?
Of recent times - Carl Lewis, Mo Greene & Justin Gatlin are the top 3.
How y'all left out Leroy Burrell
Top five Carl lewis, Tyson gay, Maurice Green, Justin Gatlin and Noah Lyles. Noah lyles if he breaks the 200m world record will become # 1 greatest USA 100M sprinter.If lyles breaks Both 100m and 200m world records he will become the greatest sprinter ever.
Top 5 US 100m sprinter: Lewis, Green,Gatlin, Gay, Coleman!
Lyles has to win another world title before he cracks the top 5.
Lyles should replace Coleman at #5.......Lyles has an Olympic and World Champs 100 gold. Coleman only has a World Champs gold.
@@aaronday305 100%agree with you there, Noah Lyles is definitely Top 5 in America in the 100m all time.
Christian Coleman doesn’t deserve to be in the top 5 just based off the fact he has no Olympic medal
@aaronday305 times matter also right, Coleman has run under 9.80 several times, and Lyles has only done it one time. When it's all said and done, Lyles will pass Coleman, but he hasn't yet.
@shayburton4104 Coleman has run under 9.80 several times. On the clock, he is top two of active sprinters in the US, with the other being Fred Kerley.
as much as I can't stand Ohio State, if we talking Greatness and not just ranking time Jesse Owens definitely top 2 or 3
Mo Green 9.79 wr 4-peat gold
Carl - 2x Olympic gold in the 100(asterisk on the 88 gold imo)
Gatlin - Olympic gold, 2x world gold. 9.74, 9.75(2x)
Tyson - world gold. 9.69, 9.71
Kerley- world gold 9.76, 9.77
Noah and Fred are interchangeable, Noah just lacks the fast times imo
I love the asterisk on the ‘88 100m gold for Lewis, cause big up Ben Johnson crossing the finish line first 🇯🇲🇨🇦
Coach Bob is on that good sinsemilla. Respect to Lyles but he isn't in nobody's top 5 in the 100. Carl, Maurice, Tyson, Gatlin and Coleman. Noah is just on the outside looking in
Only usain bolt had a better 100m career than Carl Lewis, I am not a fan of Carl Lewis but that is an undisputed fact
Any top 5 list without Tyson Gay is blasphemy! On the clock, he is the 2nd fastest man in history, and he has the highest speed ever recorded at 27.9 (w)mph and Bolt has the 2nd at 27.33!
He’s not as accomplished as Noah, Maurice, Jesse, Justin, or Carl, or Christian … yes he has a great time buy medals is what matter & he didn’t win the big one
Thank you, I don't know how this conversation went on with all these other guys who by the way I like, with little mention of the 2nd fastest human that has ever lived...To know that the only person that has ever ran faster than you in human history is the Greatest Usain Bolt and people are barely talking about you is a disgrace...If Bolt was not existent Tyson would be the greatest ever not even Yohan...Tyson would be the greatest ever.
@@thegreatdel9679I would beg to differ that Coleman is more accomplished than Tyson. If we are solely looking at 100m, Tyson owns the top 2 fastest times in USA History, 9.69 and 9.71. While Coleman best is 9.76. They both have world championships gold at 100m. One difference, Tyson has made the Olympics at 100m, twice. Christian has never accomplish that feat.
@@BDQ1975 your talking times that really mean nothing since he didn’t win. You can’t be high up on a list with no Olympic Gold medals. Allen Iverson was amazing but he didn’t win a ring. If Christian just medals at the next Olympics he’s more accomplished than Tyson. Unfortunately Tyson ran during the Bolt, just like players in the Mj era
Agreed. Tyson Gay is the man. Not just the fast times but a phenomenal competitor like Noah Lyles. Can’t see anyone else beating him if he’s fit
Come on Rob Noah only beat Fred by a few hundredths of a second and Fred still has a faster personal best. Fred is right there. Put some respect on his name lol.
Jesse Owen's??????
Noah Lyle isn’t there yet. No one is taking away from what he did but he can’t be in the top 5.
No way Noah is in the top 5! But he's a solid 12 tho.
JUSTIN GATLIN is the greatest American sprinter
Bob Hayes was the fastest if you look at conditions of shoes and tracks ran on and the times of the years regarding to how Black athletes were treated
You said 100 yard dash
How is Gay not number 1 he has the second fastest time behind bolt ?
Yohan blake is faster than Tyson Gay
This guy in blue is an American yet clueless and does not know anyone in the 90s like leroy burrell or Tim Montgomery both who broke the world records and run for your country? You have no business talking about sprint. This is the problem with UA-cam … anyone can claim to be an expert.. times are irrelevant when comparing different era 80s 90s and now….come on this is basic stuff. Noah is not top 5. How long have you been following sprint? 5yrs?…..I think the guy in black gets it
Tim Montgomery is null and void of the list. All his results from 2001 was removed, including his 9.78 World Recoed, his 2001 World Sillver Medal in the 100m. On paper his fastest time is 9.92 that he ran at USA’s National in 1997 and his best international competition was his bronze at the 1997 Worlds
@@BDQ1975 gatlin gay Lewis Mitchell… all tested positive at some point…the list goes on so I think Tim deserves a mention
There are at least 5 US Men g reater than Noah. Noah 100 and 200m boast is sharply coming to an end.
Noah and sha carry are over rated.