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Is Your Bokuto Really For Kendo?
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2017
- I have stopped selling and the following link doesn't work anymore. Kendo Bokuto From Japan at www.amazon.com... sold by KND Quality Life. It is fulfilled by Amazon. Amazon Prime available.
• Weight: About 500g (1.1 lbs)
• Length: 101.5 cm (40 inches); from the tip of the sword to the end of the handle
• Used by kendo practitioners in Japan
• The bokuto will come with a plastic tsuba (hand-guard) and a rubber tsuba-dome (hand-guard stopper).
High Quality Red Oak Wooden Sword from Japan. The wooden sword is known as bokken or bokuto and this particular bokuto is made for kendo kata training, promotion exams and demonstration of kata.
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Why kendo players use bamboo swords instead of bokkens? Is it because of safety reasons? I understand bamboo sword is way lighter and safer?
Basically yes, if it is for security reasons. Bokken (or as it is called in Japan: bokuto) is NOT a sparring weapon. Even though it's made of wood, a good bokuto (I mean if it's made in Japan) is tough and strong enough to seriously hurt. Bamboo on the other hand is flexible and much more resistant to impact. These characteristics make the Shinai the right choice for safe sparring.
On the other hand, the shinai is lighter than a bokuto (450-550 grams). A good white oak bokuto weighs around 600-700 grams. It does not seem to be much of a difference, but after practicing consecutive cuts after an hour and a half, you begin to understand what 700 grams are. Cheers
I have a bokken from when I was learning Ninjitsu as a child - I doesn't have a hand guard! But I weighed it on the kitchen scale and it's 504 grams. (A few decades old at this point!). I did see them dress up in full Kendo gear at times, to make one heck of a lot of noise with shinai. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Kendo!
Greetings Mr. Imafuji. First I would like to thank you for providing all this knowledge about kendo. It is a great way for me to prepare myself for practicing kendo (there is just one dojo remotely close to where I live and they only take in new students twice a year.) So I am practicing very basic footwork, chudan kamae and San-Kyodo Shomen Uchi every day. Again thank you for providing videos for this.
Now for my question, how do you store your bokuto? I read on a Japanese shop that it is quite important to store it horizontally so the wood is submitted to the same levels of temperature and humidity. As opposed to vertically where the part of the bokuto that is closest to the floor, will be submitted to a temperature and humidity different than the rest of the bokuto and in the long run this will make your bokuto warp.
Thank you for your comment and kind words! Good luck and have a good learning at the dojo when you start going to one!
Regarding storing bokuto: Yes, as you mentioned, if you can store yours like that, you should do it. But since it is "wood", there is a limitation to keep it in a good condition. So I recommend you to buy a practice bokuto that is relatively cheaper. But don't buy any bokuto cheaper than 30 bucks on Amazon. If they don't say that they are for kendo, then you shouldn't buy them just in case. In Japan those practice bokuto is about US$30. Then there will be a shipping cost. then the price becomes between $50 and $60.
I know that is not very cheap but that is the cheapest and decent bokuto you can get. Check out this page. This type is the standard bokuto we use for kendo in Japan. www.shogunkendogu.com/shinai-bokuto/bokuto
Hope this helps.
Very good bokutos 👍. Don't worry too much about if they break easy on contact. Those are to practice grip and swing and should really not be used in sparring. Most important thing about bokuto is *weight* and a clear visible "edge" side, so that your training builds force and muscle memory, and you would be able to (in theory!) turn a heavy steel sword into an elongment of your arm. Please use shinai (bamboo) and not bokuto for sparring and practice with responsability :) Best wishes
R.i.p. your father
撃剣型を持っている先生もいらっしゃいました。
日本では都城市に良いものを作っている兄弟が居ます。
後輩が都城木刀を使って居ますが、非常に使いやすいです。
京都のお土産は形が少し崩れて居ました。
Very good help for beginners. Thx
Thanks for your comment and you're welcome, Felix Sunshine! 😄
Iwama Aikido uses Jigen ryu Bokuto. Other styles of Aikido may use Kashima Shinryu Bokuto or even Jikishinkage ryu bokuto.
Would be interesting to show them, since not many people know this. And when in Japan is very easy to find bokuto from koryu styles and buy the wrong bokuto simply because it is "original bokuto from Japan".
Kendo bokuto resembles Itto ryu bokuto.
What is called here "Miyamoto Musashi" refers to the oar...
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Thank you for your additional info to back me up! Like I emphasized in the video, this bokuto is for KENDO and there are many different bokuto. And this bokuto is what we use in Japan FOR KENDO. Thank you again!
I am sure this helps many people! Thanks!
Hello,
I have been studying Aikido for about 3 months from home, but I have also been watching your videos. I wanted to ask if studying from home was still good. I cannot afford a Kendo club membership and do not live close to one. I love the lifestyle of bushido, and am studying Japanese everyday. Your videos have helped me a lot in my martial arts studies as well. But, can I still learn well from home? Thanks!
Thank you for your question! Studying at home has its limitation. You need someone to correct you. I really think you should belong to a kendo club or iaido club. Talk to them. If you can come once a month, then you can ask them if you can pay only for that lesson. It is important for them to get some income to get the club going.
Having said that, I do my home practice, kendo and iaido. I was lucky enough to learn iaido from Alex Bennett sensei and Hamish Robison sensei from (www.kendo-world.com) and also learned it from a sensei in Japan. I know all the Seitei Iaido. But I purchased a Seitei Iaido video and instruction from All Japan Kendo Federation (zenkenren-shop.com/en/iai_jodo/index.html). You cannot go wrong if you learn from these materials to learn the basics of Iaido.
We, budo learners, should train at the dojo and at home. So yes, you can study at home but then you need a teacher too.
When you study at home, make sure you have good study materials.
Hope this helps!
@@KendoGuide so we need someone to teach us to correct our form since we can't really tell if it's wrong or not?
Winter Tang yes, that is the whole point of having a mentor or a master. If you do not have someone properly correct you or even see your errors, it could lead to harm to your body. As well poor technique and bad habits down the line. True it must have started somewhere and someone must have came up with it, but how many people do you think tried different ways. Different methods, different styles before coming to conclusions on how this stance, this form, this fluid motion is correct or not.
Sometimes you can join in video lessons, you should try it out! A teacher can help you so much
The standardization of the bokken began in the Meiji / Taisho eras. This _standard_ bokuto model is called "Kendogata" (剣道型). This bokken was actually designed for studying the Kendo Kata. It comes with a Tsuba (guard), and it is standardised (101.5 cm) so that each practitioner uses a sword of the same length (in order to maintain the same basic interval - Maai - when performing each form) with a weight
ranging between 500 and 600 gr.
This link presents its origin in a very interesting way:
ua-cam.com/video/TvbS_4p7Jy8/v-deo.html
Also, the bokuto that his teacher gave him and his father's are made of real Japanese red oak or "Hon Akagashi" (本赤樫)
which is an excellent wood, scarce these days.
On the other hand, the most recent red oak bokuto is from a wood called "ichiikashi" (一位樫) or "first place oak"
which although good, does not have the same characteristics as the authentic red oak (resistance, density and of course weight).
Thank you for the detailed explanation! I really appreciate that! Many non-Japanese people don't have much access to such info. Very nice of you! Thank you!
Whould the cheap Amazon bokuto be good for solo practice?
I have a red oak (dark lacquered) Bokken/Bokuto i used to use for Kendo (miles away from any clubs now so I just practice at home.
I picked mine up from Ninecircles, they import from Japan though I think.
Hi. I have never bought bokuto from Nine Circles. Does the dark lacquer come off? As I mentioned in the video, there are many types of bokuto out there. There are Japanese people who don't like the lacquered or painted one because it leaves stains on their bokuto from the paint/lacquer. Since the bokuto introduced in the video is for kendo so that won't happen.
I have the Cold Steel bokken made of polypropylene I think its too heavy to start training with it if you are a self learner if those even exist. Anyways what is your opinion of a bokuto that is not made out of wood?
would you recommend a bokuto for a new kendo student, or is a shinai more ideal?
Great vid!
I'm planning on joining a Kendo club, so, I read everything and they are clear about bringing 'shinai' but what I saw in their FB photos are wood sword.. that made me confuse bcos I'm planning to buy after I register. So, Imafuji Sensei, what should I have for practices as beginner and one I should have to practice for swinging and endurance at home? Thanks. You're channel is so informative.
Make sure you ask the kendo club about what you need. I personally go with bokuto at the beginning so new students will understand the concept of the katana more easily. And I even show the iaito and how to treat it. Once they see it, they really understand how they should treat their sword. But you must follow what your club requires you to do. OK? At home, I suggest you should use a bokuto until you understand how to grab your sword and the direction of the sword. Hope this helps!
Thank you. The amazon link does not work it seems.
This might be a dumb question but is a wooden sword with a 0.9 cm blade good for Kendo/Shinkendo? Or will it just break?
That's too thin. Not sure if it is good for shinkendo. If it is too thin it is not good for practice that actually need to have the bokuto contact.
Imafuji sensei, bokken I use is heavy with tsuba. however I use lighter grooved bokken for Niten Kenjutsu. different Kenjutsu schools also have varied bokken s in different shaped. Some look literally like tree branch.
You're right. The one I introduce in the video is made for kendo kata. You do Niten Kenjutsu? Which school? Niten Ichiryu?
Hiro Imafuji Hi Sensei yes . Hyoho Niten ichi Ryu under soke kajiya takanori from Iwami line. I'm under the UK shibu.
Nice! That's very nice to know that Japanese culture is shared internationally.
Mr P, HNIR bokuto dont have a tsuba. You need a specific HNIR weapon. I hold menkyo under Imai and Iwami Soke. Japanese shirogashi are best but the Chinese ones with a closer grain are just fine. Sadly you cant buy one from a Japanese budoguya. Iwami Soke and I used to have them made but the wood was not seasoned and bent. Maybe Imafuji Sensei could get some made? There is a market for them.
Thank you for your comment. I think Mr P has two different types of bokuto, one for NitenIchi-ryu and the other one is for kendo. But the latter sounds like it is not for kendo.
It is very very hard to get a decent bokuto that we can easily get in Japan. And also I hear from different people that they always look for bokuto for their own ryuha. Like you mentioned, some need to be customly made.
I don't know if I can but I personally want to visit a bokuto craftperson some day in the future and possibly I can help them deliver their bokuto to the world.
Do they have to be white oak? (official grading tests)
I don't remember where I heard this but it has stuck in my (Kendo) memory.
I would like to collect different (Ryu) shapes of Bokuto. It would be fun to train in various styles.
Are you talking about kendo grading tests? Then it doesn't matter, red or white unless the federation you belong to has rules on that.
I want various types too!
Thank you, sensei for sharing. I have been training Shotokan Kara-Te since '93 and Aikido off and on. So I just started at an Aiki Dojo and wanted a heavy (real bokuto). I have a laminated jo made from Appalachian hickory. Laminated means two pieces put together for extra strength. I am a carpenter with moderate skills, but goid knowledge of wood types. Your video on Kendo grade bokuto confirmed my thoughts. So this may help you as well for collecting. PS- I am not affiliated with this shop. It just looks like great work for a product I want.
blizniaksbokken.com/build-a-bokken-order-page/
you Amazon link dose not work
Sorry about that. Unfortunately I stopped selling. Hope to start selling again in the future!
I want to buy a decent bokuto and haven’t find a decent store to buy with Japanese quality and your store is not anymore in Amazon 😢
Thank you for reaching out and expressing your interest in purchasing a decent bokuto, @DroogieAndras! 😄 I apologize for the inconvenience of my store not being on Amazon anymore. You can get the same bokuto that I was selling on Amazon here at Shogun Kendogu - www.shogunkendogu.com/shinai-bokuto/bokuto.
thnaks so much!!!@@KendoGuide
hi there! I have been looking around for a japanese bokuto for a while. i know you do not sell any longer but do you have any recommendations as to where I should look?
I am looking for something that i can spar with. thank you! and thanks for making this clarification video
Thank you for your comment and for watching the video, fleepss!
I don't really suggest that you spar others with bokuto if you don't have a good teacher to learn from. A durable wood is commonly white oak. Again, if you don't know how to use the sword, don't spar. You will hurt yourself or others.
@@KendoGuide thanks for your response and your recommendation! we've been doing sword sparring drills at our aikido dojo so i was interested in getting a bokken to practice with which i could use in class or with other students outside of class. the swords sensei has are quite old and were purchased a long time ago, so i was just looking for some recommendations. thank you!
fleepss shinai are sparring swords, they are perfect for sparring and can be bought quite cheap or expensive depending on what you really want. budo-aoi.com/collections/all-collections
Imafuji Sensei, if you do not mind Sensei what sword school does your kendo style descend from. I trained under Rod Omoto who was trained by Ogawa Sensei at the Busen in Kyoto. Moto Sensei used the Hokoshin Itto Ryu school.
Hi. The headmaster of my dojo in Japan was the late Tsurumaru sensei (9-dan) and also a Busen graduate. I heard that he did ittoryu as well but not sure which one. Maybe Hokushin Itto Ryu. And sub headmaster was the late Murayama sensei (8-dan), the last generation of Busen graduate. And the lastly Masayorhi Miyazaki sensei who was in charge of training kids back then. He, from Kyoto, was trained by many 8-dan and 9-dan. And I learned from him a great deal. He appears in my kata video series.
So we are the line of Busen :)
I briefly learned Houkiryu under Alex Bennett sensei and Hamish Robison sensei in New Zealand in 90s. And our headmaster in Japan was the late Niwata sensei. I only learned from the late Niwata sensei for a short period time because I was already living outside of Japan. I wish I could've learned from him more and longer.
Hiro Imafuji domo Sensei.
You're welcome!
I use E bogu that is where I get all my bokken and shenai
They are for kendo, correct? Then you are good!
Hiro Imafuji yes they are for kendo I have the heavy hard black boken
Thanks for this comment i got a e bogu for christmas and I've been worried sick if its gonna break easily
Hajimemeshite sensi, I really appreciate your efforts to teach kendo. It is really helpful for a person like me have doesn't have access to a dojo.
I already ordered my bokutu/bokken yesterday.
My question is, because I am a left handed person, can I hold the bokken with left hand at the to and right hand at the bottom? which means I have to hold the sword in my right side and draw it with left hand.
I have always wanted to learn the samurai swordsmanship.
Please keep sharing your knowledge of kendo and Katana.
Thank you.
Thank you for your nice words. I appreciate that. Did you order one from my shop? If so, thank you!
No. You cannot switch your hands position. There are cultural and historical reasons. Please check these articles goo.gl/fOOSjW
Of course, there are no such regulations. So technically you can switch.
But it is like driving the other side of the road because you are lefty.
Besides, the left hand is very important in kendo so you have advantage there.
So please do the normal way. Your kendo will be fine :)
Hiro Imafuji, thank you very much sensi. I will continue as the tradition :). I wish I could buy from your shop but they do not ship to Malaysia unfortunately. Highly appreciate your humble explanation. :)
You're very welcome!
can i use suburi bokken to spar? it might be nice to spar with those
I apologize for my delayed reply. I was in Japan when you posted.
My answer to your question is no. You will hurt your training partner badly.
And don't use the wooden sword to spar for the same reason.
Hope my answer prevents you from hurting your friends.
Hiro Imafuji thanks for replying, although i consider to spar with suburi bokken, perhaps i should reconsider based on your advice, i will keep your advice noted
that's mean no, i will not spar with suburi bokken, or other use other bokken in harmful way, that will lead to injury to my friend, i appreciated the advice sensei
Great! But don't even consider to spar with the bokuto. You can seriously hurt others with the wooden sword. And they can hurt you. Even trained people get hurt by the wooden sword.
Wise decision. The shinai (bamboo sword) was invented so the practitioners could practice without hurting each other. And of course, those protectors were invented to protect themselves from getting hurt. Be safe and stay safe. No need to hurt anyone or get hurt.
Should i consider the balance when buying these? Or does it not matter as much as it does a real sword
Thanks for your comment, Kazuma's Journey of Song. The balance of the sword is important. I always suggest people to go to a real shop and feel them. 👍💯
I am wondering. Regardless of whether your bokuto is for kendo, iaido, aikido or any other 'do', it is still a wooden sword. A wooden sword does not have the same weight or balance as a steel sword. It does not move through the air the same way a steel sword does. If a wooden blade touches another wooden blade, the two would react differently than if they were steel blades. Ultimately, a wooden sword, no matter how you customise it, is still a wooden sword and you have to pretend that it isn't. So instead of making a big fuss about which wooden sword is correct, why not use a blunt steel sword that is safer than a sharp one?
The purpose is different. We don't hit each other with bokuto. Kendo bokuto is for kata. We do use blunt steel swords too. But again we don't hit each other with those. Different types for different purposes.
Exactly. You are not hitting each other with bokuto. You are only demonstrating technique and form. So the weight should not matter right because you are not actually fighting.
It needs certain weight. Not too heavy not too light. It needs certain strength because we do have some contacts on bokutos. Different tools for different purposes. The weight might not matter if one could use a heavy sword and light sword in the same manner. If one cannot use the sword in such manner, they shouldn't use whatever they want. Would you recommend a heavy sword to a beginner? Would you ignore a person who chooses a heavy sword but he/she obviously cannot control it? Probably not. I have seen too many people who was overconfident and used a heavy sword and developed bad habits. It's just sad.
Is there such a thing as a bokuto that is too heavy ? I recently bought one for kata practice. I was between two different options, one was around 600g and Federation certified, the other one was around 800g. I ended up buying the former just to be safe since I don't want to run the risk of being blocked from entering a tournament, but I kinda wanted the heavier one : it has the same dimensions as the other one and it is cheaper, since it's not imported from Japan and is instead made from a local hardwood. I might buy the other one for the sake of it once I get the money. It's got cool factor and it supports local business.
What is the best wood to make a bokken?
Probably red oak or white oak. They are common wood for bokuto. If the bokuto involves hitting other bokuto then you need harder wood. But usually the harder the wood, the heavier the bokuto will be.
@@KendoGuide thank you sir
@@keenmeme128 You're welcome!
Have you heard of seidoshop, and if so what is your opinion of the bokuto that they sell, it is where I bought my two botuto.
Never heard of the shop and checked it. It looks like they are a Japanese company and probably they have equipment that the Japanese uses in their daily training. They are probably and mostly for Aikido? It looks like they are.
I think your bokuto are good but again I don't know what they use in Aikido in Japan so I cannot say for sure.
I am almost certain that their bokuto is the one they use in Japan. Just like the one in my video is what we use for kendo in Japan.
Thank you for your comment and purchasing a bokuto from my shop! Please let me know how the product comes. I wrapped all the bokuto myself with bubble wraps to prevent them from dents/damages.
Tozando is a well-known martial arts shop in Kyoto, Japan so it you are safe to order from them, I think. Now I never bought anything from Tozando and I don't know all the koryu bokuto so please get advice from those who know about koryu bokuto.
Okay, thank you for your response.
Thank you! I wrapped it myself so I've been wondering! Don't hit anything with it :) It is not made for that.
Hiro Imafuji I might buy a bokken from amazon lol
do you actually train with this bokuto ? As in parrying and full contact? My bokuto got broken when I spared with a friend,,,
This bokuto is not made for hitting. It is for kata. Reasonable bokuto for that purpose should be made of white oak. But don't hit each other unless you have a good instructor. These are not toys. You can seriously hurt others.
how did they spar in the past then? i know films are not good for copying but in a movie the last samurai they sparred with bokken right? i was looking for a sparing weapon not kata
There are different materials for bokuto. This bokuto here is not made for hitting things. So if you want a bokuto that doesn't break easily, go for the white oak bokuto.There are more materials but they will be more expensive. You also needs some techniques including tenouchi to block too. So your sword will last longer. Please use the bokuto correctly under proper supervision. Thank you.
ok thanks Sensei!
You're welcome!
I am from Canada please make the item international shipping
I will study how to do that. Thank you for your comment and suggestion!
Thanks!
Amazon link no longer works
Thank you for your comment, rwdplz1!😀 Yes. Sorry. I don't do this anymore. But you can buy them at www.shogunkendogu.com!
I just bought myself a bokuto it's still shipping but it weighs 700 grams would that be too heavy? By the way i have expreince using a swords mostly duel grade lightsabers.
700g for bokuto is too heavy unless you are strong enough to keep your form with a heavy sword. if you bought it to train yourself physically then it is OK as long as you can keep the correct form. 👍
I finally got my bokuto it arrived last year i do 200 strikes with it everyday.
@@Laciel2002MainChannel did you get a red oar musashi one?
@@Laciel2002MainChannel hm arent those supoose to be light?
@hmu Philly my bokken is 700 grams
So many cheap bokuto out there. I've destroyed so many over the years in light contat. The laminated ones from companies like Century, AWMA..... are mostly crap.