Jan Dismas Zelenka: Missa Dei Fili [ZWV 20] - Freiburger Barockorchester & Collegium Vocale Ghent

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  • MISSA DEI FILI ZWV 20 (c.1740) -PERFORMANCE DETAILS
    Collegium Vocale Ghent and Freiburg Baroque Orchestra, each firmly established as world-class early music interpreters within their respective fields, last December joined forces during an unforgettably successful concert program with the title Bach & Dresden. Concerts were held in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands.
    Live recording from Freiburg, Germany, on 16 December 2011.
    SOLOISTS
    Christina Landshammer (soprano)
    Damien Guillon (alto)
    Thomas Hobbs (tenor)
    Peter Kooij (bass)
    Collegium Vocale Ghent
    Freiburg Baroque Orchestra
    Marcus Creed (conductor).
    MOVEMENTS
    KYRIE
    1) Kyrie eleison (Choir)
    2) Christe eleison (Aria: Soprano)
    3) Kyrie eleison (Choir, da capo)
    GLORIA
    4) Gloria in excelsis Deo (Choir: Soprano, alto, tenor, bass)
    5) Qui tollis peccata mundi (Soli: Soprano, tenor, bass)
    6) Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris (Choir)
    7) Quoniam tu solus Sanctus I (Choir)
    8) Quoniam tu solus Sanctus II (Aria: Alto)
    9) Cum Sancto Spiritu I (Choir)
    10) Cum Sancto Spiritu II (Choir)
    ***********************************************
    JAN DISMAS ZELENKA'S ULTIMATE MASSES
    Zelenkas Masses until 1733/ ZWV 16 were composed on commission, which means they were ordered for performance on a specific occasion, had usually solemn settings including wind- and brass instruments (flutes, timpani trumpets, horns), and they were comparatively short.
    These three characteristics, on the contrary, are absent from his subsequent Masses . Missa Dei Fili, translated as "Mass for God's Son/ Mass for God the Son" (ZWV 20) shares exactly the same chamber-like and apparently simple instrumentation with the Masses ZWV 18-21:
    SATB soli, choir; first & second violin; 2 oboes; viola; basso continuo (violoncello, violone, bassoon, organ & theorbo).
    Despite their apparent modesty these last Masses, due to their lenght, their high technical demands and sophisticated, innovative musical features, make a monumental impression on the listener. Manuscript sources make clear that the Mass settings from 1739-41 were an act of personal devotion, made for God's glory alone, and thus in a sense works of art independent from liturgical restrictions. Finally, we know that the musical components during religious services at Dresden's Court Chapel were strictly limited to 40-45 minutes. And Zelenkas late Masses, requiring a performance time of 50-70 min, didn't fulfill this demand.
    Missa Dei Fili from 1740-41, also composed on a grand scale, is a partial exception simply because it is a "Missa brevis" with only the two initial Mass sections Kyrie and Gloria. The other late works were full 5-section Masses completed with Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei.
    Because Zelenka's plan for his Missae ultimae was so ambitious, and because there are references to other Masses in the project that are possibly lost, but most probably were never composed, some have suggested that this Missa Dei Fili was left unfinished. However, Masses consisting of the Kyrie and Gloria only, a tradition imported from Naples, were fashionable at the time. For example, all of Bach's Masses except his last have this form. (For the relationship between Bach and Zelenka: See my uploads of Zelenka's "Te Deum" (ZWV 146) and Bach's "Tönet, ihr Pauken!" (BWV 214)).
    INTERPRETATION OF MISSA DEI FILI ZWV 20
    Although nothing can be proved, Zelenka's exceptional focus on the Gloria-section of the Mass as it now stands, supports the idea of its completeness. During the whole baroque only Bach's b-minor Mass Gloria has a comparable lenght. Gloria in excelsis Deo, according to the Gospel of Luke sung by a choir of angels on the fields of Betlehem after having announced Christ's birth to the shepherds, is of course the world's oldest Christmas carol. By adding a Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei, Zelenka would inevitably have weakened this effect. A Mass dedicated to God the Son (Fili) could in principle refer to countless New Testament episodes, but the link between the title and the musical resources spent on the Gloria here seem to make the compositional intentions clearer. Based on this interpretation of ZWV 20, implicitly shared by the various ensembles that choose to perform it during Christmas, I chose the Nativity paintings in the video to illustrate it:
    LIST OF PAINTINGS
    KYRIE
    1) Caravaggio: Adoration of the Shepherds (detail) (1609)
    2) Govert Flinck: Announciation to the Shepherds (1639)
    GLORIA
    3) Mathias Grünewald: Gloria with Mary & Child (the Isenheim altar) (1515)
    4) and 5) Details from 3).
    6) Geertken Toot Sins Jans: Noctorcal Nativity Scene (detail) (c.1490)
    7) Filippo Lippi: Nativity (detail) (1455)
    8) Giorgione: Adoration of the Shepherds (detail) (c.1510)
    9) Abraham Hondius: Annunciation to the Shepherds (1663)
    10) Detail of 9)
    11) Mathias Stomer: Adoration of the Shepherds (c.1640)
    12) Same as 10)
    13) Piero della Francesca: Nativity (c.1475)
    14) Same as 3)
    images of the performers and a Zelenka autograph page (ZWV 126).

КОМЕНТАРІ • 37

  • @rogeretiennedelacruz3000
    @rogeretiennedelacruz3000 11 місяців тому +2

    Amazing in its grandeur but it is truly difficult for the average chorus. Bravo Collegium Vocale Ghent and Freiburg Baroque Orchestra for doing such a fantastic work of it.
    My choir sung his Sepulto Domino on 21 Oct 2023 and I was completely mesmerised by his harmonic language. At once shimmering and the chord progression, unexpected.

  • @dollertwee
    @dollertwee 12 років тому +11

    Great recording of a fine work. A pity that JD Zelenka's works aren't performed more often and to a much wider audience all over the world!

  • @AnnaBohemianBaroque
    @AnnaBohemianBaroque 4 роки тому +8

    The very first time I heard this, years ago, my jaw dropped to the floor. (36:36 on) Bar none for me the very best mvt of all in Z's many many choral works. It showcases his splendid energy, counterpoint, and syncopation to the utmost.

  • @alfredosofia5154
    @alfredosofia5154 12 років тому +3

    A volte penso che la musica profetica di Zelenka, più che un tentativo di dare gloria a Dio,sia un segno della Sua esistenza.Se questo non piace a chi si chiude davanti al Mistero,invece da godimento inaudito a chi crede che lo Spirito Vivificante sa sempre stupire e commuovere.

  • @gerddonni2017
    @gerddonni2017 4 місяці тому

    ❤ Stunning - composition and performance!🎉

  • @polomokipo6000
    @polomokipo6000 8 років тому +2

    JAN DISMAS ZELENKA ( LOUNOVICE 1679-1745 DRESDE ) . MISSA DEI FILI ( ZWV 20 ) FRIEBURGER BAROCKORCHESTER & COLLEGIUM VOCALE GHENT CONDUCTOR MARCUS CREED. Une merveille Soprano ténor Alto basse chœur et orchestre sont grandiose bravo apprécier de Bach et de TELEMANN laisse dès oratorios des cantates sacrés œuvre religieux 22 messes quelque requiem musique de chambre dont 6 sonates pour 2 hautbois et basson un magnificat. Merci pour cette MISSA et ce moment avec ZELENKA Eternel sublime.

  • @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino
    @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino 10 років тому +3

    Come deve essere per ognuno:dare gloria a Dio in letizia.E in una cifra melodica armoniosa e festosa Zelenka lo fa egregiamente.Lo de anche a chi ha corredato il testo musicale con immagini bellissime.Grazie.

  • @cortschlichting5060
    @cortschlichting5060 8 років тому +11

    Absolutely a great piece of choral music. The Gloria is just about perfect.

  • @victorheredia7185
    @victorheredia7185 3 роки тому +2

    Amén...

  • @SimonSimon-rn3tm
    @SimonSimon-rn3tm Рік тому +1

    A truly magnificent, pioneering work.

  • @RFSJ
    @RFSJ 7 років тому +3

    This is a rollicking and energetic piece - I like it a lot. It would be great fun and joyful to actually worship with it.

  • @NachoMargahayu
    @NachoMargahayu 8 років тому +8

    Not only a great concert but I like the extensive information in the description also. Thanks for sharing

  • @elfriedereichert7277
    @elfriedereichert7277 3 роки тому

    jetzt habe ich das Stück schon zweimal gehört. Ich bin entzückt. Die Aufführung ist wundervoll.
    Jan Dismas Zelenka ist für mich eine Entdeckung

  • @jdzzdj
    @jdzzdj 12 років тому +5

    Beautiful...Zelenka in all his powers!

  • @milanesque
    @milanesque 11 років тому +19

    Kyrie eleison (0:00), Christe eleison (01:26), Kyrie eleison (06:10), Gloria in excelsis Deo (07:35), Qui tollis peccata mundi (17:33), Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris (28:24), Quoniam tu solus Sanctus I (30:10), Quoniam tu solus Sanctus II (30:34), Cum Sancto Spiritu I (36:10), Cum Sancto Spiritu II (36:36)

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 5 років тому +1

    Un chef d'oeuvre absolu ! Ecoutez le Gloria !

  • @myempathy1
    @myempathy1 9 років тому +5

    The music speaks for itself.

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 5 років тому +1

    Ma messe préférée de JD ZELENKA un très grand compositeur !

  • @adamnoman4658
    @adamnoman4658 4 місяці тому

    Sunday, 19 May '24
    A glorious "Gloria," but the "Qui Tollis" is sheer genius.
    - -

  • @divinelight777
    @divinelight777 3 роки тому +1

    ベルニウス盤も最高に良かったけど、こちらのクリード盤も本当に素晴らしい圧巻の演奏ですね!!!

  • @stpd1957
    @stpd1957 12 років тому +1

    I listened to it in Ireland on RTE's Lyric FM, it was a magnificent concert, my congratulations to all concerned.

  • @alexandertsatalas5973
    @alexandertsatalas5973 9 років тому +3

    Der ABSOLUTE Ausdruck sakraler Musik!

  • @jonasstary5895
    @jonasstary5895 6 років тому +4

    I love Qui tollis... 17:33 Magnificent music. :)

  • @flemmingranch8777
    @flemmingranch8777 5 років тому +1

    Skøn, skøn og livlig musik og koret sang jo duet med sig selv. Rigtig flot......

  • @thierrylz
    @thierrylz 12 років тому +2

    superbe concert!!!!!

  • @claudiarothschild4032
    @claudiarothschild4032 5 років тому +2

    maravillosa!

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 6 років тому +4

    Mon oeuvre préférée de Zelenka. Un très grand compositeur, malheureusement cantonné aux seules oeuvres religieuses où il excelle, mais encore trop méconnu (mais ça change !)

  • @jameswginn
    @jameswginn 12 років тому +2

    Wow--I especially liked the tune in the final fugue.....

  • @coriolan1963
    @coriolan1963 5 років тому +1

    Very beautiful!

  • @hellomate639
    @hellomate639 8 років тому +9

    The Miserere at 28:50 is amazing.

    • @Renee2004lr
      @Renee2004lr 5 років тому +2

      He apparently re-used the beginning of this for his C Minor "Miserere" which has been recorded a few times by itself.

  • @thierrylz
    @thierrylz 12 років тому +1

    et tres beau trille des sopranos dans le gloria...

  • @ihno45
    @ihno45 11 років тому +2

    Wait five years and look again... I've got the impression that unlike Vivaldi some 80 years ago Zelenka will have his well earned renaissance!

  • @arjenbij
    @arjenbij 4 роки тому +3

    19:30 It's almost like Mozart.

  • @brandonphillips4751
    @brandonphillips4751 7 років тому +2

    Jesus

  • @alterbridelius
    @alterbridelius 11 років тому +2

    Fuga Cum sancto spiritu 36:36

  • @floriodivalgioconda9939
    @floriodivalgioconda9939 Рік тому

    Eccelso!!!