This is what makes Souls games and a select few Souls likes so damn good in my mind. Some games have excellent gameplay, but the story sucks. Some are the opposite. Very very few have both. A lot of people hate on this game, but I’ve come to love it. You doin this helps, so it’s much appreciated.
Its rocky launch really hurt perceptions, which is a shame because the story/world is very rich. At least CI and Hexworks seem to respond to community feedback
It’s only going to get better with the update and dlc plans I can’t wait to do another play through. Yes some annoying stuff in it but every souls games very annoying things in them all.
Man do I feel like an idiot after he said that the Rhogar Lords were of the Fallen God and I finally realized why the game is called Lords of the Fallen 🤡
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, I feel like the rocky launch did a disservice to the amazing setting/art/lore found in this world. Hopefully with the dev improvements and holidays coming, more will be interested
To this day, i still dont get where the hate for this game comes from. I found it fun and unique. An awesome take on the soulslike genre AND an amazing comeback conaidering the last game was nie on unplayable. The game was and is amazing. I feel like the hate stems from "its not daek souls or fromsoft"
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about. That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
@@hatefulgaming1800 Wow, that may be true games have the ability to fix such things. And we need to stop worrying about whether a game doesn't work in the beginning and just play it later
@@hatefulgaming1800 Biggest example cyber punk twenty seventy seven Game couldn't even be played in the beginning now. It's probably one of the best games i've ever seen
I think the Putrid Mother's influence on events prior to the seals weakening is too downplayed; she is not just an opportunistic actor, but the driver behind everything. Looking at the timeline of events, it is more probable the initial plague was Umbral in nature, which helped drive the Hallowed Sentinels into paranoia and fanaticism, allowing the Rune of Adyr to twist their worship and weaken the seals when it was brought back into Mournstead. It is worth noting that no Adyr worshipper stigma or item suggests the initial plague was actually Rhogar in nature like Pieta and Judge Cleric think, and while the Rhogar plague twists forms, the dialogue of the stigmas suggests they simply suffer (wither?) and die. I doubt any Hallowed Sentinel would deny a mutated human with claws and sharp fangs slinging fire to be anything but Rhogar, and I doubt their radiant sorceries would prove so ineffective against such a plague.
Agreed but the biggest mistake judge cleric made was not deatroy the rune she didn't want not to be wanted/needed she obviously enjoyed the power that was the start of there downfall right there
I thought of this as well. Who's to say that the lamp wasn't what whispered into Harkyn's mind to give the rune to judge the cleric? After all, it does become a crucial part of the putrid mother's plan to enter Axiom, both in giving access to Adyr and as a way to kill the immortal Harkyn and collect his parasite. You are also correct that the items tied to the sundered monarch state he was afflicted by a "cruel sickness of the mind," and we know Rhogar energy withers both body and mind, making it likely he was affected by umbral insanity rather than fallen to Rhogar energy. We should also keep in mind that the Adyr worshippers heed whispers that come from beneath the earth because they believe Adyr's body is buried there, but we know very well that any whispers from the ground come from umbral.
So is Orius actually responsible for creating the mortal realm, or is that a belief of the Orian faith? Also is Adyr really a native of the Rhogar realm? The way he talks about it seems to imply it’s some sort of new prison realm the judges banished him to while Axiom was his home. Tremendous video! I loved every second!
Wow this was such a good explainative lore vid! LOVE listening to all of your lore vids on lotf ever since i first listened to the lore surrounding pieta. Its my most favorite soulslike since the original so it makes me really happy to see another be so passionate and interested in its lore despite the bad stigma the original left behind for many. Keep it up lorebearian!
Thanks so much for the kind words and glad to hear you enjoyed the video! The game has such a vivid world and rich story, hopefully the rocky launch will settle and more players will pick it up for the great experience
Yes i agree. Also as a suggestion and it doesn't have to be anytime soon but I'd love to see a lore video on damarose, delving deeper into her history and seemingly sad fate from adyr. That's another thing that really intrigues me about this franchise is how adyr always try and make himself seem morally right but contradicts himself by corrupting and tormenting ppl as well as using manipulation to achieve his selfish goals.
The canon ending should be a mix of the three, basically resulting in The Putrid Mother devoured Adyr and Axiom, in 2 of the ending She defeats Adyr and in the last She is not defeated. Nothing states that Adyr is able to defeat Her, nor that Adyr would be able to provide a seal like the infant is in ages to come. And who knows if the infant and its successor placed by Orius’ church would be able to seal the Mother after She devoured another god ?
Not true. Adyr is more powerful than her. Examples: Despite the fact that Umbral is simply layered on top of Axiom (like a shadow of Axiom), the Putrid Mother's influence in Axiom is absolutely minimal. Only where the veil between the two is thinnest (like in the mines) does Umbral kinda bleed over into Axiom a little bit. On the other hand Adyr is not 'close' to Axiom like Umbral is. He is in the Rhogar Realm which is completely separated dimensionally from Axiom and yet Adyr has immense influence over mournstead and axiom as a whole, including things like decay, natural disasters, mental corruption, eternal eclipses etc. You know that giant hand, larger than any mountain? The game tells you that giant hand mountain formation was from Adyr's mere anger being powerful enough to cross entire dimensions. The Putrid Mother does not have the sheer power to affect Axiom from Umbral the way Adyr can affect Axiom all the way from a different dimension altogether. Adyr talks about Orius and the Putrid Mother and calls them both cowards who won't show themselves, especially while his influence in Axiom is so great. The fact that all the way from the Rhogar Realm he is able to see the Putrid Mother and basically calls her a disgusting umbral parasite unworthy of the title of Godhood is telling enough. He is able to peer through other realms to see her clearly for what she looks like, and is unconcerned, his only concern is just getting to his home dimension of axiom. The Putrid Mother does not directly defeat Adyr in any ending. In the radiance ending the lamp bearer is able to overcome Adyr only after the former weakens Adyr by strengthening the beacons with the lamp's energy, on top of this, the lamp bearer also faces Adyr while being amped by the rune of Adyr in his posession. You may try to say that the lamp 'consumed' him as proof of the Putrid Mother's superiority but again the Lampbearer was also more powerful here because he had the Rune of Adyr in his possession. And besides that...Orius then turned around and destroyed not just you but the umbral lamp as well. And Orius is no more than a rival to Adyr, unable to exert his full influence on Axiom even though his rival Adyr is locked away in a prison dimension. And yet Orius had zero problem not just burning the Lampbearer into nothing, but the lamp and all its umbral energy as well. In the Umbral ending, the Putrid mother literally requires the Rune of Adyr as well to enact her plans. She has to taint the rune with umbral energy as well as remove melchior's body from the effigy of Adyr in bramis castle all for the dual purpose of helping her escape Umbral and to prevent Adyr from escaping the Rhogar realm. She didn't 'defeat' him at all. She removed him from the equation so he wouldn't be an obstacle to her and also required the power of his rune to escape Umbral herself. The most clear example of Inferno energy being greater than Umbral is through Pieta. Pieta's actual revival and healing powers don't come from Radiance/Orius, but from Umbral energy. As spoken of by Molhu, Pieta (whose original name as a child was Elianne) had an Umbral parasite fused into her since infanthood, unknowingly to her. Yet despite the healing powers her umbral blood gave her, she was completely unable to heal those stricken en-masse by the illness and mental corruption caused by the rhogar blight--all of which was coming from Adyr's influence.
@SenjiroAkechi great examples, but I feel as the putrid mother shows only enough to seem as if she is no threat. Which I think adyr fell for. He thinks of her as a disgusting parasite not worth his time or day. I believe the putrid mother to be alot smarter then what she lets on.
All of this lore makes me love this game even more, this game is a beautiful dark world and this lore shows the evil and dark under belly that makes our characters choices and crusades more important than I ever thought, this game is truly amazing and the lore just as much so
@@Jagarm87 Who was the guy towards the beginning of one of the trailers when the dark crusaders entered into this giant door? There was a giant sitting on a throne who wore a mask who said “ascend towards Orius my child, as his holy redeemer”
@@LightofRenewal that could be the cardinal of dark crusaders, telling him that in his duty he will ascend to his god? Or it could be Judge Cleric? Haven't fully watched the video yet or fully played the game, currently on like hour 30 in the game and searching EVERY INCH of the map to find everything
Humanity - beat Adyr to be free from rule of God also Humanity - 1000 years later Become slaves of god Orius Putrid Mother - ... You know i could eat all the gods, so you will be come real free :D (in my belly) XD
The contradiction is thr point. The person who deposed Adyr herself ended up being worshiped like a God (Judge Cleric). After the plague and Harkin's Rune she became corrupted and went full Loco.
Very cool video! Tomorrow I will start playing for last ending and this video added even more hype) I would like to see more videos about LOTF and it's characters, like Hushed Saint, Tancred, Harrower etc. Also, it's still unclear for me who was the leader of dark crusaders. It seems like he was only present in trailer, when Dunmire, Harrower and Isaac came to the 'headquaters'. Thank you for the content!
So glad you enjoyed and I appreciate the suggestions! Working on more boss lore now then I hope to dive into the Church of Orius and Dark Crusaders/Hallowed Sentinels
@@TheLorebrarians will be waiting for new videos then! With my next playthrough I decided to roleplay as Hushed Saint - left and forgotten by the church, slowly drowned into umbral desparity - imo good feat for umbral ending. I tried looking for his lore, but found only few hints from his item descriptions( Hopefully one day I will learn more about him here 😄
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about. That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
Bro your videos are truly amazing. Like you have some serious potential. I’ve been hooked from your Hollower Dervla vid. Please keep breaking down Lotf lore.
So how did the Judge Cleric attain Demi god status and live for over 1500 years while the other two judges didn't? Wasnt the judge cleric just a regular priestesses of Adyr right before the events of her losing her parents? Also who really is Orius? Don't think he created humans otherwise why would he let Adyr waltz in and take control of them? He just seems like a poorly written, one dimensional god and as Adyr says just hiding till some one else does Orius's bidding.
We don't actually know what happened to the other two judges. They could very well be alive! When they banished Adyr, it is understood that they were deified to a degree (which is why Adyr describes them as demi/psuedo/fake gods). They are ascended, but they aren't incorruptible either. As to who Orius is, I suspect he is the good guy. As was stated in the video, he cut off his own head to create the heavenly bodies and firmament for creation. Just like it is understood in Christianity, which this game heavily allegorizes from, the god Orius might seem like an indifferent, underserving God to those who are unfamiliar with his divine intervention, but he is the force who orchestrated all things. So, Orius is responsible - due to his influence and planning - for the beacons, the hallowed sentinels, the Church of Orius, the Dark Crusaders, and even for your resurrection at the beginning of the game. Orius even twists the Umbral mother god into doing his will when he orchestrates it so that Adyr is devoured. The events of the entire game perfectly work for Orius's sake. And when you cleanse the beacons on his behalf - after he orchestrated your resurrection - Adyr is slain and his holy light purges the land of the Rhogar infestation of Mournstead. He redeems characters like Pieta, he saves Mournstead from Adyr's oppression forever, and he cuts off the Umbral mother's connection to Axiom by destroying the lamps at the end of the game. He's literally a genius.
@@CalebDekker The three judges are likely immortal or very long-lived, seeing as Kaslo is over 500 years old by the events of the first game and Iselle is 1500 years old by the events of the second game. I don't think it's confirmed that Orius was the god behind the creation of the mortal realm, merely that it is a belief in the Orian faith. He is only a genius if you take the Radiance ending to be canon; otherwise, Orius is a complete fool, as the tool he tried to use against Adyr ends up either backfiring and resulting in freeing Adyr, giving him a lord who surpasses the judges in strength and taking out Iselle (not to mention giving him a god consuming weapon to use on the other gods lol) or ending existence altogether by freeing the putrid mother. Keep in mind that one of the possible lampbearers is literally a cultist of Adyr. It's far more likely that the PC specifically being resurrected was purely due to chance. There is also the HUGE risk that the events he supposedly orchestrated will lead you to find the rune of Adyr and fall into the temptation of power, which could be a catalyst for a lamp-bearer who was initially not a servant of Adyr to turn on their mission and join Adyr (or pretty much give the putrid mother what she needs to tear the veil). Honestly, it feels more like a gamble. The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation, but the latter is not far off from some of the things the Christian god does or orders. Molhu is also still alive, the veil between axiom and umbral will continue to weaken because the boy martyr is dead (depending on your choices), Harkyn's umbral lamp is still around, and there are more umbral parasites out there. We know very devout servants of Orius (Dunmire) can fall to the temptation of umbral, so he hasn't exactly fixed the problem by nuking you Nuking you was also done purely for the lols rather than to destroy the lamp. Lampbearers can willingly part with their umbral lamps and no longer be bound to them (see Isaac), so what this really means is he doesn't give a shit if the PC lives or not and were just a disposable pawn to him. Also, what do you mean by "redeems pieta"?
@@Sometuy11A Well, neither is anything "confirmed" except for very specific details. Based on the information presented in the game, there's not really a good reason to assume otherwise. Regardless of your conclusion, you have to take someone at their word, but that's neither here none there because it doesn't affect the crux of my point which was to say that Orius didn't do anything wrong (AND he did good). I do take the Radiance ending as canon for a few reasons: it was described as the primary objective of the game by the developers and all of the marketing leading up to the games release, it is the quest that was given to you by all of the characters in the opening of the game (including Isaac), and its the only ending of the game which has you fight a totally unique boss. If were going to debate the canon ending, then I might as well discard it because it also really doesn't affect my points either. Orius taking calculated risks is totally acceptable given the umbral mother's invasion of Axiom and Adyr's rising influence in Mournstead which has pushed out all of Orius's influence in the region. Even if it was solely a gamble, it was really the only play. Armies of crusaders were sent to cleanse the beacons, and the lamp that the church had access to was entrusted to Isaac who never lost his devotion to Orius even after death. Whether you come across the rune of Adyr or not (whether you're tempted or not), if nothing is done then Adyr will be freed regardless. The only way it would wind up in Orius's favor is if it was recovered by a crusader. If the crusader falls to Adyr's influence, it wouldn't make a difference because Adyr would be free in either case. BUT if the crusader resists Adyr's influence, then all of Mournstead is recovered. Again, there is only one play to make. Huge risks? Well, it's the only way to get a positive outcome at all, but the turnaround is massive. The radiance ending is not vague in the least. Orius's light pours down across Mournstead. What's in Mournstead? I must have missed all of the good normal people who were not corrupted by Adyr, the umbral mother, or dead because there wasn't a single one left by the end of the game (except for less than a handful of NPCs maybe?). We don't really see any examples of these "good people" who are left except for the few who are still devoted to Orius like Pieta or Isaac. But assuming that Orius was just blasting all of the heretics, whose to say that would be a bad thing? Who is he zapping? Molhu? Judge Cleric? Sounds good to me! If that's the case, then why would Molhu still be alive? Why wouldn't the lamps/lampbearers be hunted down by the church and burned by Orius? Why wouldn't this help stave off the umbral invasion? Why shouldn't Orius fear the player character? If Orius is as much or less of a "god" as Adyr, then using his power and influence to stop a potential future where the lamps are turned on him seems to be a very logical conclusion. You might have used the lamp for Orius now, but whose to say you wouldn't use the lamp to devour him in the future? Orius is ensuring his victory, and if you choose Orius, then you - like Isaac - would happily die for the sake of Orius and his followers. If we're going to lean into the Christian allegory - which I like - then I'll answer in the same way that the Bible does...who are we to question God? It's not "for the lols", a lampbearer is a threat to Orius reign. My comment about Pieta was simply to say that, despite her nature being corrupted and twisted by the Umbral parasite, she was protected from her fate as Elianne by her devotion to Orius, and Orius resurrected Pieta while also giving her the task of aiding the player character on his crusade to cleanse the beacons and restore Orius's reign in Mournstead. Orius is a genius!
Keep in mind that Adyr acted kind towards Dark Crusader because he needed someone to corrupt beacons, also he couldn't face direct Crusader but only trough his minions, maybe he speaks truth but it's high possibility that he only manipulated player to join him.
It was my goal of the channel to do exactly this - help people better connect with and enjoy the games they love to play - so I'm very glad to hear this!
hello Scholarian WOW!! i loved lords of the Fallen but not ant GUD at it Loved the design Lore and monsters LOTF2 looks even better More Lore a refined combat loop and glorious boss fights I will definitely buy it and play it as the Beautiful Grand Grotesque gothic Aesthetics is stunning!!
This video was thorough an well done I'm playing thru it right now an this helps like the game that much more an I kno its a semi sequel but alot is not told u hafta really dig for the lore an it's pretty good lore
Our ancient history even knows how to stay with the times…the third one she’ll be a man again but the ancient scholars will argue about calling her sir or ma’am…..ITS MA’AM
I will always believe the Putrid Mother is the cannon ending, because of how it is presented and certain lines we see. Love the lore, it's so well done, been playing since release and altho it had MANY and I mean MANY issues and some still persist, I cannot hate them, they add so many new free updates, always work on their game and try to listen to the community. But yeah, you could also see that because there is no continuation, the Putrid Mother's ending is the "cannon" one because all has been devoured :P But that's me just reaching :D
The primary distinction between Elden Ring and other Souls games lies in their foundational inspirations. Elden Ring diverges from the heavy reliance on real-world religions and mythologies that characterize titles like Dark Souls and Lords of the Fallen (LotF). In the latter, deities such as Gwyn, akin to Zeus, and Nito, resembling Hades, draw directly from human mythologies. Similarly, in LotF, Orius is parallel to Zeus, while Adyr mirrors Hades, showcasing a strong influence from existing religious beliefs. Also Putrid Mother is heavily inspired from the CThun or the Wheel of Life God from legacy of kain. Last but not least, up to 80% is a bad copy of Christianity and copy from Diablo lore. This is why those games are all the same, heretical and boring. Killing demons or aligning with demons every time same story. Elden Ring, on the other hand, ventures into more original territory, significantly influenced by George R.R. Martin's creative vision. It introduces the concept of the Lands Between-a series of flat, distinct planes of existence. Unlike traditional deities, Marika, a central figure in Elden Ring, is not depicted as the king of gods but rather as a divine entity revered by the civilizations of the Lands Between. Her divinity is attributed to her origins from the outer planes and her possession of cosmic power, setting her apart from traditional godly figures. Furthermore, Elden Ring portrays a more complex cosmology. While Marika wields significant power, she is not alone; there exist entities beyond the Lands Between with power surpassing hers. The narrative depth extends with Marika's creation of the Elden Tree, a source of life for the Lands Between, and her offspring, the Empyreans (Elden Lords), who inherit runes from the shattered Elden Ring-a consequence of her sorrow over the loss of her firstborn, Godwyn the Golden. The protagonist, known as the Tarnished, is introduced to explore and unravel the intricate lore surrounding the Elden Ring. However, it's hinted that there is much more to the backstory, suggesting that Marika's role is not that of a universe creator but rather as a divine custodian sent by a higher force to nurture life under her guidance through the Elden Tree. This nuanced narrative framework in Elden Ring departs from traditional mythological archetypes, presenting a richly original lore that minimizes direct parallels with human religions, underpinned by Martin's unique contribution to its mythos. This is why Elden Ring and Lord of the Rings lore is much better lore than any other high fantasy lore in the world.
This game is very good imo.. Both worlds are good.. gameplay is not bad((fromsoftware fanboys/girls saying its bad cuz shield sound when you block is not good i mean wtf??)) if you going to say its bad Gotta remind you fromsoftware using 2009 demon's souls animations and you're all fine with it.. The story..that humans are stupid and witless.. Is awesome and true! but i want more endings.. something like burning The world with the goods and all! your hero will be like You know what?Fvck them all!
I love this story but dam some of these names just kinda sound unimpressive Judge cleric? Judge warrior? Judge assassin? Come on besides that I love it
Lords of the Fallen actually has a good and coherent overarching story and good sub plots aswell. In DS and Elden Ring its not only incoherent but it frequently contradicts ifself. And when you do piece together the story and try to summarize it. You'll realize how terrible it actually is . However the plot story in Elden Ring after the shattering is actually quite good.
Lies .. dark souls trilogy is literally one of best stories ever told about cycles and destruction , if you don’t understand it that’s a whole another problem ..can’t even compare elden ring to this it’s laughable
@@Diabeticninja90yeah. In ER and DS we can go examine every details in the game (statues, corpses, etc...) and add more context for item descriptions. We can connect in-game lore with IRL references. I don't think people can do similar things in LOTF.
@@Diabeticninja90 oh really. Please summarize the story of dark souls or elden ring in less than 200 words without sounding like a complete idiot. I DARE YOU!!!
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg you can akshUaLLy. But clearly you haven't played this game and i doubt you played either dark souls or elden ring. Just here to troll.
So... they went woke to please the woke mob. I played a lot LOF 2023 but never played the original. Thanks, now i realize it. I personally i don't have an issue with strong female characters at all but, i was wondering why there are so many in this game.
Only watching this video out of boredom. This game was trash and I think I'm far from the only one that thinks the original was better and that's pretty damn sad. Lies of P was done leaps and bounds better than this shit.
The lore of LotF sadly is very shallow compared to the lore seeping out of every item, place and dialogue in Dark Souls or Bloodborne. Demon wants to come to mortal world. Over and over again.
Yeah. The intricate lore in Fromsoftware's soulborne games is unparalleled, and being enriched by not only the item descriptions, dialogues but also environmental storytelling (check the video of The tarnished archeologist to see). That why I think none of Soul-like can imitate those. In this game, the lore is at least better than many other Soul-like, but still very shallow and somewhat meaningless. I still feel Blasphemous and The last faith did lore better than this one.
FromSoft definitely set a bar that no other has achieved in worldbuiling and lore, but its still nice to discover the settings of other IPs. And as a content creator, I can't compete with all of the Soulsborne channels out there X)
@@TheLorebrarians You did a good job with what's there. But I doubt anyone could go deeper with what lore they delivered. Same way it would be hard to make a lore video about pacman. It's just what it is.
I know its supposed to be high Gothic, Christian faith inspired but the entire game felt a mix of the crusades and the Spanish inqusition VS demons with a Cthulu undertone. Awesome feeling
You know, it's kind of insane that one of the core pillars that lead to Mournestead's fall is...Judge Cleric not touching grass. Imagine the lives that could have been saved, the terrors averted, the realms saved if only someone in the Hallowed Sentinels had had the gall to drag her ass out to get some sunlight. All jokes aside, I love that you're still doing Lords of the Fallen lore. I gotta admit that there's something quite interesting in Adyr's next level pettiness. He could have all the bodies in the world to manifest his mortal avatar, and 1500 years of a grudge leads him to take the body of Iselle. Damn son. There's absolutely no way Mournestead isn't gonna burn in the fires of his revenge.
He already tried to use other bodies to manifest that being the spurned progeny iirc. It seems he needed a very powerful vessel now that his physical form has died. It just happened that the woman who betrayed him also made for the perfect vessel.
@@stevenfernandez3872 That is true. I wish we could have seen his country-sized form, though. But the way he took revenge on Iselle was a great twist too.
Even before Harkin gave her the Rune , she was already at breaking point with the gruesom plague. Harkin's rune made her go full genocidal and paranoid where she saw sinners and adyr apologists everywhere.
would have loved to have gotten to finish this game, but one of the updates they released completely erased my character with close to 25 hours of progress. thanks dev team...
The fact that all souls like games use the same way to inform the player about the story is depressing. Item descriptions and cryptic conversations with npcs IS NOT good story telling. I like this games story much more than Elden ring but for some reason it’s not communicated effectively to a new player . Such a shame because I like this game a lot .
Orius is as bad as adyr if not even worse. Atleast adyr reward you if you help him unluke orius who kill you and everyone that dont belive in him. And when youre in the mind of judge cleric we see than she lived in a beautiful house in the middle a field and flowers while adyr's reign not really the heelscape that orius followers want to make everyone belive.
Great video, for me this is best soulslike game alongside Elden Ring, do you know how strong is Dark Crusader with Umbral lamp compared to other Soulslike protagonists?
I can appreciate your point of view on this movie its still one of my favorites but o would have never even thought of it like this of u hadn't said it in your review , keep up the awesome work man .
Hour long discussion of lords of the fallen’s story?
You got yourself a new sub.
Thanks for the support, hope you enjoyed the video!
This is what makes Souls games and a select few Souls likes so damn good in my mind. Some games have excellent gameplay, but the story sucks. Some are the opposite. Very very few have both. A lot of people hate on this game, but I’ve come to love it. You doin this helps, so it’s much appreciated.
Its rocky launch really hurt perceptions, which is a shame because the story/world is very rich. At least CI and Hexworks seem to respond to community feedback
I'm with yas I love this game I don't play many games again but I'm gonna with this 1 right away. There's soo much to still be found
It’s only going to get better with the update and dlc plans I can’t wait to do another play through. Yes some annoying stuff in it but every souls games very annoying things in them all.
@@scarvello agreed an I can't wait for dlc an sht
I agree. I hate that people give it such a bad rep. I have come to love this game just as much as Elden ring, dark souls, sekiro etc
Man do I feel like an idiot after he said that the Rhogar Lords were of the Fallen God and I finally realized why the game is called Lords of the Fallen 🤡
me too lol 🤡👹
But also you literally have command over death, i.e. the "fallen"
In my head it's because the player character falls of so many ledges.
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Fr, the collision in this game is janky
@@sslinger704 But they just fixed it recently no?
Well written and skillfully presented, good work! The lore and story for this universe is more interesting than I initially gave it credit for
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, I feel like the rocky launch did a disservice to the amazing setting/art/lore found in this world. Hopefully with the dev improvements and holidays coming, more will be interested
No it doesn’t rly it copies everything from dark souls and elden ring down to character design it doesn’t innovate on anything but it is a good video
The art direction and style for this game is amazing. Half of these paintings and art sets look like they’re pulled straight from the medieval period.
Judge Cleric - Die a hero or live long enough to become the Villain
Thanks for this, it's pretty hard to find LotF lore content
You bet. Yes, which surprises me because I absolutely love the story/worldbuilding
This dude spoke to me in thesaurus for an intro and im all ears for it
The passion of a storyteller and a wordsmith by hobby
With how good this game is, I'm surprised there isn't more videos like this. Great job. Loved every minute!
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The lore is interesting but idk if i'd call the game good , it's decent enough but has many issues
The game is amazing, the haters are genuinely just hating to hate
To this day, i still dont get where the hate for this game comes from. I found it fun and unique. An awesome take on the soulslike genre AND an amazing comeback conaidering the last game was nie on unplayable. The game was and is amazing. I feel like the hate stems from "its not daek souls or fromsoft"
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about.
That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
The game ran absolutely horribly at launch and wasn’t well balanced.
@@hatefulgaming1800 Wow, that may be true games have the ability to fix such things. And we need to stop worrying about whether a game doesn't work in the beginning and just play it later
@@hatefulgaming1800 Biggest example cyber punk twenty seventy seven Game couldn't even be played in the beginning now. It's probably one of the best games i've ever seen
@@PsychokinslayerYeah same,if the game as a rough start wait for the fixes and then start it
I think the Putrid Mother's influence on events prior to the seals weakening is too downplayed; she is not just an opportunistic actor, but the driver behind everything. Looking at the timeline of events, it is more probable the initial plague was Umbral in nature, which helped drive the Hallowed Sentinels into paranoia and fanaticism, allowing the Rune of Adyr to twist their worship and weaken the seals when it was brought back into Mournstead. It is worth noting that no Adyr worshipper stigma or item suggests the initial plague was actually Rhogar in nature like Pieta and Judge Cleric think, and while the Rhogar plague twists forms, the dialogue of the stigmas suggests they simply suffer (wither?) and die. I doubt any Hallowed Sentinel would deny a mutated human with claws and sharp fangs slinging fire to be anything but Rhogar, and I doubt their radiant sorceries would prove so ineffective against such a plague.
Agreed but the biggest mistake judge cleric made was not deatroy the rune she didn't want not to be wanted/needed she obviously enjoyed the power that was the start of there downfall right there
I thought of this as well. Who's to say that the lamp wasn't what whispered into Harkyn's mind to give the rune to judge the cleric? After all, it does become a crucial part of the putrid mother's plan to enter Axiom, both in giving access to Adyr and as a way to kill the immortal Harkyn and collect his parasite.
You are also correct that the items tied to the sundered monarch state he was afflicted by a "cruel sickness of the mind," and we know Rhogar energy withers both body and mind, making it likely he was affected by umbral insanity rather than fallen to Rhogar energy. We should also keep in mind that the Adyr worshippers heed whispers that come from beneath the earth because they believe Adyr's body is buried there, but we know very well that any whispers from the ground come from umbral.
So is Orius actually responsible for creating the mortal realm, or is that a belief of the Orian faith?
Also is Adyr really a native of the Rhogar realm? The way he talks about it seems to imply it’s some sort of new prison realm the judges banished him to while Axiom was his home.
Tremendous video! I loved every second!
Adyr created the Rhogar, he was imprisoned in that realm where he assumably makes them.
I’ve been waiting for this video, thank you for doing it so well
Glad you enjoyed
All I wanna know is... Where is Orius? Adyr is making moves, but Orius is doing what?
I’m pretty sure he’s not doing much since he cut off his own head.
@@LoganSearleswhat is it with holy things game ending themselves on purpose
@@LoganSearleswhy? I just played this game recently.
@@michaelvalmo they say Oriuos made the sun by cutting off his own head.
Wow this was such a good explainative lore vid! LOVE listening to all of your lore vids on lotf ever since i first listened to the lore surrounding pieta. Its my most favorite soulslike since the original so it makes me really happy to see another be so passionate and interested in its lore despite the bad stigma the original left behind for many. Keep it up lorebearian!
Thanks so much for the kind words and glad to hear you enjoyed the video! The game has such a vivid world and rich story, hopefully the rocky launch will settle and more players will pick it up for the great experience
Yes i agree. Also as a suggestion and it doesn't have to be anytime soon but I'd love to see a lore video on damarose, delving deeper into her history and seemingly sad fate from adyr. That's another thing that really intrigues me about this franchise is how adyr always try and make himself seem morally right but contradicts himself by corrupting and tormenting ppl as well as using manipulation to achieve his selfish goals.
Yeah he right like damn
This is one of the best lore summarization videos I've ever listened to.
So Harkin was the first game protagonist. That's awesome, this game is a true direct sequel. Still the developers saying that's reboot hahaha.
The canon ending should be a mix of the three, basically resulting in The Putrid Mother devoured Adyr and Axiom, in 2 of the ending She defeats Adyr and in the last She is not defeated. Nothing states that Adyr is able to defeat Her, nor that Adyr would be able to provide a seal like the infant is in ages to come. And who knows if the infant and its successor placed by Orius’ church would be able to seal the Mother after She devoured another god ?
Not true. Adyr is more powerful than her. Examples:
Despite the fact that Umbral is simply layered on top of Axiom (like a shadow of Axiom), the Putrid Mother's influence in Axiom is absolutely minimal. Only where the veil between the two is thinnest (like in the mines) does Umbral kinda bleed over into Axiom a little bit. On the other hand Adyr is not 'close' to Axiom like Umbral is. He is in the Rhogar Realm which is completely separated dimensionally from Axiom and yet Adyr has immense influence over mournstead and axiom as a whole, including things like decay, natural disasters, mental corruption, eternal eclipses etc. You know that giant hand, larger than any mountain? The game tells you that giant hand mountain formation was from Adyr's mere anger being powerful enough to cross entire dimensions.
The Putrid Mother does not have the sheer power to affect Axiom from Umbral the way Adyr can affect Axiom all the way from a different dimension altogether.
Adyr talks about Orius and the Putrid Mother and calls them both cowards who won't show themselves, especially while his influence in Axiom is so great. The fact that all the way from the Rhogar Realm he is able to see the Putrid Mother and basically calls her a disgusting umbral parasite unworthy of the title of Godhood is telling enough. He is able to peer through other realms to see her clearly for what she looks like, and is unconcerned, his only concern is just getting to his home dimension of axiom.
The Putrid Mother does not directly defeat Adyr in any ending. In the radiance ending the lamp bearer is able to overcome Adyr only after the former weakens Adyr by strengthening the beacons with the lamp's energy, on top of this, the lamp bearer also faces Adyr while being amped by the rune of Adyr in his posession.
You may try to say that the lamp 'consumed' him as proof of the Putrid Mother's superiority but again the Lampbearer was also more powerful here because he had the Rune of Adyr in his possession. And besides that...Orius then turned around and destroyed not just you but the umbral lamp as well. And Orius is no more than a rival to Adyr, unable to exert his full influence on Axiom even though his rival Adyr is locked away in a prison dimension. And yet Orius had zero problem not just burning the Lampbearer into nothing, but the lamp and all its umbral energy as well.
In the Umbral ending, the Putrid mother literally requires the Rune of Adyr as well to enact her plans. She has to taint the rune with umbral energy as well as remove melchior's body from the effigy of Adyr in bramis castle all for the dual purpose of helping her escape Umbral and to prevent Adyr from escaping the Rhogar realm. She didn't 'defeat' him at all. She removed him from the equation so he wouldn't be an obstacle to her and also required the power of his rune to escape Umbral herself.
The most clear example of Inferno energy being greater than Umbral is through Pieta. Pieta's actual revival and healing powers don't come from Radiance/Orius, but from Umbral energy. As spoken of by Molhu, Pieta (whose original name as a child was Elianne) had an Umbral parasite fused into her since infanthood, unknowingly to her. Yet despite the healing powers her umbral blood gave her, she was completely unable to heal those stricken en-masse by the illness and mental corruption caused by the rhogar blight--all of which was coming from Adyr's influence.
@SenjiroAkechi great examples, but I feel as the putrid mother shows only enough to seem as if she is no threat. Which I think adyr fell for. He thinks of her as a disgusting parasite not worth his time or day. I believe the putrid mother to be alot smarter then what she lets on.
All of this lore makes me love this game even more, this game is a beautiful dark world and this lore shows the evil and dark under belly that makes our characters choices and crusades more important than I ever thought, this game is truly amazing and the lore just as much so
Do we know how Orius looks? Is there a physical depiction of him in the game, or is it left up to our imagination?
Imagination
@@Jagarm87 Who was the guy towards the beginning of one of the trailers when the dark crusaders entered into this giant door? There was a giant sitting on a throne who wore a mask who said “ascend towards Orius my child, as his holy redeemer”
@@LightofRenewal that could be the cardinal of dark crusaders, telling him that in his duty he will ascend to his god? Or it could be Judge Cleric? Haven't fully watched the video yet or fully played the game, currently on like hour 30 in the game and searching EVERY INCH of the map to find everything
@@holykonchu7250 Let me know if you find any lore relating to it. It will be much appreciated.
@@LightofRenewal High luminary Casilium, essentially the equivalent of the Pope.
Humanity - beat Adyr to be free from rule of God
also Humanity - 1000 years later Become slaves of god Orius
Putrid Mother - ... You know i could eat all the gods, so you will be come real free :D (in my belly) XD
The contradiction is thr point. The person who deposed Adyr herself ended up being worshiped like a God (Judge Cleric). After the plague and Harkin's Rune she became corrupted and went full Loco.
Very cool video! Tomorrow I will start playing for last ending and this video added even more hype)
I would like to see more videos about LOTF and it's characters, like Hushed Saint, Tancred, Harrower etc. Also, it's still unclear for me who was the leader of dark crusaders. It seems like he was only present in trailer, when Dunmire, Harrower and Isaac came to the 'headquaters'.
Thank you for the content!
So glad you enjoyed and I appreciate the suggestions! Working on more boss lore now then I hope to dive into the Church of Orius and Dark Crusaders/Hallowed Sentinels
@@TheLorebrarians will be waiting for new videos then! With my next playthrough I decided to roleplay as Hushed Saint - left and forgotten by the church, slowly drowned into umbral desparity - imo good feat for umbral ending. I tried looking for his lore, but found only few hints from his item descriptions( Hopefully one day I will learn more about him here 😄
Great to see you again my guy. Let’s enjoy the hell out of another video!
Hope it met expectations!
@@TheLorebrarians definitely did 👌🏻
Nice! Keep them coming!!!
Glad you enjoyed, more are on their way!
Very good video, I would like to see more deep videos for some characters like Pieta.
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about.
That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
Bramis' family please
already in the works ;)
Bro your videos are truly amazing. Like you have some serious potential. I’ve been hooked from your Hollower Dervla vid. Please keep breaking down Lotf lore.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the support! More LotF to come
I clicked so fast that im Sanic now. Maybe making lo re videos for old internet memes is not a bad idea.
I’ll be taking second spot then.
Bravo! A few key details missing, but otherwise a tremendous breakdown. #teamwinterberry
Thanks for breaking this down. I didn't know what the game was about.
Amazing Video from beginning to end. Awesome job 👍❤🔥
Please make more lords of the fallen content I loved this video!
Thank you for this, great vid!
Of course, glad you enjoyed!
So how did the Judge Cleric attain Demi god status and live for over 1500 years while the other two judges didn't? Wasnt the judge cleric just a regular priestesses of Adyr right before the events of her losing her parents? Also who really is Orius? Don't think he created humans otherwise why would he let Adyr waltz in and take control of them? He just seems like a poorly written, one dimensional god and as Adyr says just hiding till some one else does Orius's bidding.
The whole story is flat and full of holes left open.
We don't actually know what happened to the other two judges. They could very well be alive! When they banished Adyr, it is understood that they were deified to a degree (which is why Adyr describes them as demi/psuedo/fake gods). They are ascended, but they aren't incorruptible either.
As to who Orius is, I suspect he is the good guy. As was stated in the video, he cut off his own head to create the heavenly bodies and firmament for creation. Just like it is understood in Christianity, which this game heavily allegorizes from, the god Orius might seem like an indifferent, underserving God to those who are unfamiliar with his divine intervention, but he is the force who orchestrated all things. So, Orius is responsible - due to his influence and planning - for the beacons, the hallowed sentinels, the Church of Orius, the Dark Crusaders, and even for your resurrection at the beginning of the game.
Orius even twists the Umbral mother god into doing his will when he orchestrates it so that Adyr is devoured. The events of the entire game perfectly work for Orius's sake. And when you cleanse the beacons on his behalf - after he orchestrated your resurrection - Adyr is slain and his holy light purges the land of the Rhogar infestation of Mournstead.
He redeems characters like Pieta, he saves Mournstead from Adyr's oppression forever, and he cuts off the Umbral mother's connection to Axiom by destroying the lamps at the end of the game. He's literally a genius.
@@CalebDekker The three judges are likely immortal or very long-lived, seeing as Kaslo is over 500 years old by the events of the first game and Iselle is 1500 years old by the events of the second game.
I don't think it's confirmed that Orius was the god behind the creation of the mortal realm, merely that it is a belief in the Orian faith.
He is only a genius if you take the Radiance ending to be canon; otherwise, Orius is a complete fool, as the tool he tried to use against Adyr ends up either backfiring and resulting in freeing Adyr, giving him a lord who surpasses the judges in strength and taking out Iselle (not to mention giving him a god consuming weapon to use on the other gods lol) or ending existence altogether by freeing the putrid mother. Keep in mind that one of the possible lampbearers is literally a cultist of Adyr. It's far more likely that the PC specifically being resurrected was purely due to chance.
There is also the HUGE risk that the events he supposedly orchestrated will lead you to find the rune of Adyr and fall into the temptation of power, which could be a catalyst for a lamp-bearer who was initially not a servant of Adyr to turn on their mission and join Adyr (or pretty much give the putrid mother what she needs to tear the veil). Honestly, it feels more like a gamble.
The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation, but the latter is not far off from some of the things the Christian god does or orders.
Molhu is also still alive, the veil between axiom and umbral will continue to weaken because the boy martyr is dead (depending on your choices), Harkyn's umbral lamp is still around, and there are more umbral parasites out there. We know very devout servants of Orius (Dunmire) can fall to the temptation of umbral, so he hasn't exactly fixed the problem by nuking you
Nuking you was also done purely for the lols rather than to destroy the lamp. Lampbearers can willingly part with their umbral lamps and no longer be bound to them (see Isaac), so what this really means is he doesn't give a shit if the PC lives or not and were just a disposable pawn to him.
Also, what do you mean by "redeems pieta"?
@@Sometuy11A Well, neither is anything "confirmed" except for very specific details. Based on the information presented in the game, there's not really a good reason to assume otherwise.
Regardless of your conclusion, you have to take someone at their word, but that's neither here none there because it doesn't affect the crux of my point which was to say that Orius didn't do anything wrong (AND he did good).
I do take the Radiance ending as canon for a few reasons: it was described as the primary objective of the game by the developers and all of the marketing leading up to the games release, it is the quest that was given to you by all of the characters in the opening of the game (including Isaac), and its the only ending of the game which has you fight a totally unique boss.
If were going to debate the canon ending, then I might as well discard it because it also really doesn't affect my points either.
Orius taking calculated risks is totally acceptable given the umbral mother's invasion of Axiom and Adyr's rising influence in Mournstead which has pushed out all of Orius's influence in the region. Even if it was solely a gamble, it was really the only play.
Armies of crusaders were sent to cleanse the beacons, and the lamp that the church had access to was entrusted to Isaac who never lost his devotion to Orius even after death.
Whether you come across the rune of Adyr or not (whether you're tempted or not), if nothing is done then Adyr will be freed regardless. The only way it would wind up in Orius's favor is if it was recovered by a crusader. If the crusader falls to Adyr's influence, it wouldn't make a difference because Adyr would be free in either case. BUT if the crusader resists Adyr's influence, then all of Mournstead is recovered. Again, there is only one play to make. Huge risks? Well, it's the only way to get a positive outcome at all, but the turnaround is massive.
The radiance ending is not vague in the least. Orius's light pours down across Mournstead. What's in Mournstead? I must have missed all of the good normal people who were not corrupted by Adyr, the umbral mother, or dead because there wasn't a single one left by the end of the game (except for less than a handful of NPCs maybe?). We don't really see any examples of these "good people" who are left except for the few who are still devoted to Orius like Pieta or Isaac. But assuming that Orius was just blasting all of the heretics, whose to say that would be a bad thing? Who is he zapping? Molhu? Judge Cleric? Sounds good to me!
If that's the case, then why would Molhu still be alive? Why wouldn't the lamps/lampbearers be hunted down by the church and burned by Orius? Why wouldn't this help stave off the umbral invasion? Why shouldn't Orius fear the player character? If Orius is as much or less of a "god" as Adyr, then using his power and influence to stop a potential future where the lamps are turned on him seems to be a very logical conclusion. You might have used the lamp for Orius now, but whose to say you wouldn't use the lamp to devour him in the future? Orius is ensuring his victory, and if you choose Orius, then you - like Isaac - would happily die for the sake of Orius and his followers. If we're going to lean into the Christian allegory - which I like - then I'll answer in the same way that the Bible does...who are we to question God? It's not "for the lols", a lampbearer is a threat to Orius reign.
My comment about Pieta was simply to say that, despite her nature being corrupted and twisted by the Umbral parasite, she was protected from her fate as Elianne by her devotion to Orius, and Orius resurrected Pieta while also giving her the task of aiding the player character on his crusade to cleanse the beacons and restore Orius's reign in Mournstead.
Orius is a genius!
Keep in mind that Adyr acted kind towards Dark Crusader because he needed someone to corrupt beacons, also he couldn't face direct Crusader but only trough his minions, maybe he speaks truth but it's high possibility that he only manipulated player to join him.
This game is so amazing. I’m glad I didn’t listen to reviews.
It's better than they said no question but It has some issues.
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725every game has issues bro
16:35
DiCaprio pointing meme*
Awesome vid! Thanks for the story
Oh hell yea man!! So pumped for this
Enjoy!
"we have VaatiVidya at home" making a video about "we have Dark Souls at home", classic.
BEST off-brand* offerings I've seen to date tho!!! 👍👍
I like this game is about to fight evil, you must use the power of another evil.
ooooh so in his effort to prevent his fear he inadvertently caused them to come true by rivaling adyr
Great video!
Appreciate it!
Wasn't Kaslo, the magician from the first game who freed Harkyn, one of the three judges ?
Games awesome. And one of the best looking
I wish u make this video for thr first game
I really like this game. (The Lords of The Fallen), i just can't help but feel like it ended on a whimper
Bro that k you very much for making understand the game i play you are precious for my lord of the fallen game play precious
It was my goal of the channel to do exactly this - help people better connect with and enjoy the games they love to play - so I'm very glad to hear this!
Great vid
53:16 is that a character you made? Looks dope.
hello Scholarian WOW!! i loved lords of the Fallen but not ant GUD at it Loved the design Lore and monsters LOTF2 looks even better More Lore a refined combat loop and glorious boss fights I will definitely buy it and play it as the Beautiful Grand Grotesque gothic Aesthetics is stunning!!
This video was thorough an well done I'm playing thru it right now an this helps like the game that much more an I kno its a semi sequel but alot is not told u hafta really dig for the lore an it's pretty good lore
Appreciate it, enjoy the journey!
@@TheLorebrarians well ty I'm enjoying it alil more after the video 🫡
To get all lore tidbits, go for a umbral build to see all the small lore in weapons and armor
@@holykonchu7250 I'm a try that on my next play through
so did adyr come from umbral? or was he just always around?
Love the video
Appreciate it
Does anyone know the name of the somber music playing In the background?
so half the land was vibin w adyr and accepted him as their god, and the other half didnt? or a group showed regret and remorse for their actions?
Time is the ultimate Evil - as always.
Our ancient history even knows how to stay with the times…the third one she’ll be a man again but the ancient scholars will argue about calling her sir or ma’am…..ITS MA’AM
Fiedelis lore perhaps?
@TheLorebrarians Where is the story of the Sundered Monarch?
I still do not understand the withered realm at all. It feels too shoehorned in just to be a gameplay mechanic for extra exploration
Great story, I love the lore. Hate playing the actual game.
I will always believe the Putrid Mother is the cannon ending, because of how it is presented and certain lines we see. Love the lore, it's so well done, been playing since release and altho it had MANY and I mean MANY issues and some still persist, I cannot hate them, they add so many new free updates, always work on their game and try to listen to the community.
But yeah, you could also see that because there is no continuation, the Putrid Mother's ending is the "cannon" one because all has been devoured :P But that's me just reaching :D
The primary distinction between Elden Ring and other Souls games lies in their foundational inspirations. Elden Ring diverges from the heavy reliance on real-world religions and mythologies that characterize titles like Dark Souls and Lords of the Fallen (LotF). In the latter, deities such as Gwyn, akin to Zeus, and Nito, resembling Hades, draw directly from human mythologies. Similarly, in LotF, Orius is parallel to Zeus, while Adyr mirrors Hades, showcasing a strong influence from existing religious beliefs. Also Putrid Mother is heavily inspired from the CThun or the Wheel of Life God from legacy of kain. Last but not least, up to 80% is a bad copy of Christianity and copy from Diablo lore. This is why those games are all the same, heretical and boring. Killing demons or aligning with demons every time same story.
Elden Ring, on the other hand, ventures into more original territory, significantly influenced by George R.R. Martin's creative vision. It introduces the concept of the Lands Between-a series of flat, distinct planes of existence. Unlike traditional deities, Marika, a central figure in Elden Ring, is not depicted as the king of gods but rather as a divine entity revered by the civilizations of the Lands Between. Her divinity is attributed to her origins from the outer planes and her possession of cosmic power, setting her apart from traditional godly figures.
Furthermore, Elden Ring portrays a more complex cosmology. While Marika wields significant power, she is not alone; there exist entities beyond the Lands Between with power surpassing hers. The narrative depth extends with Marika's creation of the Elden Tree, a source of life for the Lands Between, and her offspring, the Empyreans (Elden Lords), who inherit runes from the shattered Elden Ring-a consequence of her sorrow over the loss of her firstborn, Godwyn the Golden.
The protagonist, known as the Tarnished, is introduced to explore and unravel the intricate lore surrounding the Elden Ring. However, it's hinted that there is much more to the backstory, suggesting that Marika's role is not that of a universe creator but rather as a divine custodian sent by a higher force to nurture life under her guidance through the Elden Tree.
This nuanced narrative framework in Elden Ring departs from traditional mythological archetypes, presenting a richly original lore that minimizes direct parallels with human religions, underpinned by Martin's unique contribution to its mythos.
This is why Elden Ring and Lord of the Rings lore is much better lore than any other high fantasy lore in the world.
What happened to the royal child?
Stay tuned, scripting for a video explaining Mournstead's royal family as we speak
@@TheLorebrarianscan't wait :)
Is this one of the warhammer dudes he sounds like one of the warhammer dudes
This game is very good imo..
Both worlds are good.. gameplay is not bad((fromsoftware fanboys/girls saying its bad cuz shield sound when you block is not good i mean wtf??))
if you going to say its bad
Gotta remind you fromsoftware using 2009
demon's souls animations and you're all fine with it..
The story..that humans are stupid and witless..
Is awesome and true!
but i want more endings.. something like burning
The world with the goods and all!
your hero will be like
You know what?Fvck them all!
I love this story but dam some of these names just kinda sound unimpressive Judge cleric? Judge warrior? Judge assassin? Come on besides that I love it
Guess you didn't play it then.
Lords of the Fallen actually has a good and coherent overarching story and good sub plots aswell. In DS and Elden Ring its not only incoherent but it frequently contradicts ifself. And when you do piece together the story and try to summarize it. You'll realize how terrible it actually is . However the plot story in Elden Ring after the shattering is actually quite good.
Lies .. dark souls trilogy is literally one of best stories ever told about cycles and destruction , if you don’t understand it that’s a whole another problem ..can’t even compare elden ring to this it’s laughable
@@Diabeticninja90yeah. In ER and DS we can go examine every details in the game (statues, corpses, etc...) and add more context for item descriptions. We can connect in-game lore with IRL references. I don't think people can do similar things in LOTF.
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg hence my point , fromsoft is superior in every way possible
@@Diabeticninja90 oh really. Please summarize the story of dark souls or elden ring in less than 200 words without sounding like a complete idiot. I DARE YOU!!!
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg you can akshUaLLy. But clearly you haven't played this game and i doubt you played either dark souls or elden ring. Just here to troll.
somehow I didnt give a single F about the story of this game.
Ssssssssssssssssssss snake
So... they went woke to please the woke mob. I played a lot LOF 2023 but never played the original. Thanks, now i realize it. I personally i don't have an issue with strong female characters at all but, i was wondering why there are so many in this game.
The last thing I thought while playing this game was "damn woke devs and their female characters" but go off xD
You're slow
Only watching this video out of boredom. This game was trash and I think I'm far from the only one that thinks the original was better and that's pretty damn sad. Lies of P was done leaps and bounds better than this shit.
💀💀💀 that was a horrible take, the first sucks, the 2nd is truly marvelous, lies of p is good but not comparable.
The lore of LotF sadly is very shallow compared to the lore seeping out of every item, place and dialogue in Dark Souls or Bloodborne.
Demon wants to come to mortal world. Over and over again.
Yeah. The intricate lore in Fromsoftware's soulborne games is unparalleled, and being enriched by not only the item descriptions, dialogues but also environmental storytelling (check the video of The tarnished archeologist to see). That why I think none of Soul-like can imitate those.
In this game, the lore is at least better than many other Soul-like, but still very shallow and somewhat meaningless.
I still feel Blasphemous and The last faith did lore better than this one.
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg They tried to copy it but behind the text is a boring very very simple standard story with a lot of holes.
FromSoft definitely set a bar that no other has achieved in worldbuiling and lore, but its still nice to discover the settings of other IPs. And as a content creator, I can't compete with all of the Soulsborne channels out there X)
@@TheLorebrarians You did a good job with what's there. But I doubt anyone could go deeper with what lore they delivered. Same way it would be hard to make a lore video about pacman. It's just what it is.
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg Yep, look at Elden Ring, people still find tidbits of lore in literally every stone or bush or building in this game, it's amazing.
WHY ARE YOU WISHPERING?! SPEAK UP
these endings are cheeks
Fromsoft still king
turned this off on 0:01 as I can't stand vocal fry teens.
Didn’t know adeer was a beeatch
I know its supposed to be high Gothic, Christian faith inspired but the entire game felt a mix of the crusades and the Spanish inqusition VS demons with a Cthulu undertone. Awesome feeling
Incredible video ! Thank you so much for this, feeling flattered to see our lore here unveiled !
Wow, it's thanks to you all for bringing such a vivid world to life! Would love to connect and talk LotF story through art sometime
My pleasure ! @@TheLorebrarians
You know, it's kind of insane that one of the core pillars that lead to Mournestead's fall is...Judge Cleric not touching grass. Imagine the lives that could have been saved, the terrors averted, the realms saved if only someone in the Hallowed Sentinels had had the gall to drag her ass out to get some sunlight.
All jokes aside, I love that you're still doing Lords of the Fallen lore.
I gotta admit that there's something quite interesting in Adyr's next level pettiness. He could have all the bodies in the world to manifest his mortal avatar, and 1500 years of a grudge leads him to take the body of Iselle. Damn son. There's absolutely no way Mournestead isn't gonna burn in the fires of his revenge.
He already tried to use other bodies to manifest that being the spurned progeny iirc. It seems he needed a very powerful vessel now that his physical form has died. It just happened that the woman who betrayed him also made for the perfect vessel.
@@Sometuy11A he also chose her body cause he wanted her suffer the way he suffered. Soul locked way in the Rhogar Realm while he uses her body.
@@stevenfernandez3872 That is true. I wish we could have seen his country-sized form, though. But the way he took revenge on Iselle was a great twist too.
Even before Harkin gave her the Rune , she was already at breaking point with the gruesom plague. Harkin's rune made her go full genocidal and paranoid where she saw sinners and adyr apologists everywhere.
@@stinyg That’s true. The rune just took things to the next level.
You "s" is too loud in this video, I believe there's an audio channel overly loud in the mixing.
would have loved to have gotten to finish this game, but one of the updates they released completely erased my character with close to 25 hours of progress. thanks dev team...
So the next game will probably be about taking out orius and umbral probably leaking into the real world.
The fact that all souls like games use the same way to inform the player about the story is depressing. Item descriptions and cryptic conversations with npcs IS NOT good story telling. I like this games story much more than Elden ring but for some reason it’s not communicated effectively to a new player . Such a shame because I like this game a lot .
Orius is as bad as adyr if not even worse.
Atleast adyr reward you if you help him unluke orius who kill you and everyone that dont belive in him.
And when youre in the mind of judge cleric we see than she lived in a beautiful house in the middle a field and flowers while adyr's reign not really the heelscape that orius followers want to make everyone belive.
Man I can’t focus on what your saying because of my tiny brain, TOO MANY BIG WORDS AGHHHHHHHHHH🤯🤯🤯🤯
I really want to watch this video but I'm mid game, does it spoil something or can I watch it?
I thoroughly enjoy this game so far and just like every souls like or souls games I understand that it's not for everyone but it's definitely for me 👍
It's not Adyrs corruption, it is the hallowed sentinels.
Great video, for me this is best soulslike game alongside Elden Ring, do you know how strong is Dark Crusader with Umbral lamp compared to other Soulslike protagonists?
They should be second only to the Lord of Frenzied Flame from Elden Ring.
He is weaker than Tarnished and Wolf (Sekiro).
I’m gonna go on a limb here and assume Kaslo was the judge assassin.
Cleric dude the woman was assassin and artNas the warrior
@@Clapperofcheeks5000Antanas is a descendant of one of the judges, not a judge himself.
So far we know only of Iselle and Kaslo.
Whose Kalso? And where was he mentioned?
@@stevenfernandez3872 The old man who frees Harkyn in the first game.
@@Sometuy11A what I meant was there kind of the embodiment of . That’s what I think
I can appreciate your point of view on this movie its still one of my favorites but o would have never even thought of it like this of u hadn't said it in your review , keep up the awesome work man .