There are Strength, Skill/Dexterity, Bloodtinge, and Arcane weapons you could also say, even though most of them are ultimately Quality Weapons since they scale in multiple stats.
@@JacobHeronK More workshop weapons have serration (beast bonus damage) and more church weapons have righteous (gross cainhurst enemies bonus damage), but there's exceptions. The church pick has righteous beast hunter (like serrated but it works on more enemies), the cane has both (but only one at a time depending on form), the hunter's axe has nothing, kirkhammer only has righteous in sword form, etc.
I would argue that curved swords are better than straight swords in ds3. They don’t have as much variation in their moveset as the straight swords do, but in a game where you practically only need r1 attacks I think that doesn’t matter much. The far superior speed and the absurdly low commitment to the two handed r1 attacks allow you to play very aggressively and makes punishing bosses attack windows so much easier. Even the smallest attack windows are punishable since it takes such a short time for the animation to complete. Besides, the curved sword weapon class also has the sellsword twinblades, which is undeniably the best weapon in the game for pve.
Completely agree. Curved swords are always better than their straight sword counterparts in these games. Curved Twinblades are the best in DS3. Especially when you start talking about buffing them with resins.
You never mentioned a best Straight Sword for DS3, so here’s my two cents: Anri’s Straight Sword - easy to get - busted ass luck scaling - passive HP regen - buffable - stance weapon art
It's always the Lothric Knight Sword. That shit was busted back then and is still now. Carried me on my first ds3 playthrough before switching to the also busted frayed blade.
@@georgiykireev9678 I would have suggested that, but it has pretty hefty stat req’s for a straight sword, is outclassed by the standard longsword with many infusions (especially considering its stat reqs). Anri’s sword has low reqs, much better scaling in its primary damage stat, and can synergize with luck builds
Lothric Knight straight sword was never a pvp meta weapon, it is undoubtedly good ik PvP just based of the fact it is a straight sword, but it is not the best straight sword and they aren't the best class. @@georgiykireev9678
@@6kang971 Lothric I'd just worse than longsword. Longsword has more damage and costs less stamina. You also do not have to grind for it. Just buy it from greyrat
@@Walamonga1313in PvP rapiers were kinda limited due to their moveset, I was a lot more afraid of the high skill katana and spear users. Now those can be oppressive af Edit: curved swords too I guess, the warped sword specifically. Basically, every weapon that was fast with a high counter modifier that wasn't a rapier or dagger
my personal choice in ds2 was the blacksteel katana, fun moveset, the running attack and the 2HR2 i think it was(wide horizontal heavy attack slash) did me well, i swear its like, 70% of the time i threw out that R2 i caught someone with it cause they didnt know it tracks nearly a full 180. and the running attack was just fun, i almost want to learn how to mod elden ring just to give a katana that sweet lunging stab
Curved swords are the best in ds3, end of story. The best PvE weapon is the sellsword’s, and the best PvP weapon is the pontiff sword. I’ll give straight swords a close second, but CS is the superior choice.
Looking at the top 10 DPS weapons in a dexterity build, it is split 50/50 between straight swords and curved swords, if we go out to the top 20 it is also a perfect 50/50 split. As far as highest DPS possible sellswords wins with 705 DPS, but the rest of the class is in the 500-600 dps range(on par with the straight swords)
Straight swords win for versatility. They are best used one handed which frees up the other hand for all sorts of options. Magic build - staff and longsword. Faith build - catalyst and longsword. Strength build - Greatshield and longsword. Dex/quality build - BKS and straight sword. Crossbows or the dragonhead shield worked well in the offhand as well.
The R2 R2 on the great scythe’s follow up melts but dps wise are u sure the Falchion won’t out DPS Ultras. Great video, really like how through these videos we see how many great weapons were in these games and how underrated some weapon classes are
Painting Guardian's Sword is the highest DPS in DS1. But, like most curved swords, its range is so short that it doesn't even work properly on half the bosses' hitboxes. Youwy is right, Halberds are better.
Actually the Painted Guardian's sword, is the highest DPS weapon in the game UNBUFFED. If we count buffs, the highest DPS weapon is Ricard's Rapier. If you buff it with like 400 extra lightning damage with Sunlight Blade, when you use the R2 flurry, that extra damage is being applied in EVERY SINGLE HIT. It's stupid really.
I’ve never felt like I’m cheating with a melee weapon as much as when I use a Great Hammer in Elden Ring. The stance break mechanic is OP and I feel like I’m bullying most of the bosses.
I'd like to see a list like this, but blind to somber/twinkling/etc. weapons. Only the infusables. The vanilla ones. Judge it by the base traits of the weapon class and not by what special options exist for each class.
I'm playing Dark Souls remastered right now. It's my first FromSoft game. I love the halberd. I also got really lucky and got the dark knight halberd as a drop. The movesets are really satisfying and fun to use
I agree with DS3 I switched off the twin blades for a great sword But I found the quickness of these weapons allowed so many trades that the great sword just couldn’t without getting hit
Interesting to see the Greatswords being ranked the best in Elden Ring, I haven't used them since they were buffed but I wasn't impressed with them when I used them for my first time playing the game. But it's good to know the buffing helped make them a more viable option now.
Greatswords have the Ordovis Greatsword, Blasphemous Blade, Marais Executioner Sword and Dark Moon Greatsword. That's 4 weapons that are at least in the top ten best weapons in the game.
I remember when I started Elden Ring I immediately went for a straight sword because I assumed they'd be broken all over again like in DS3 and Demon Souls. Even DS2 did them somewhat justice. Tthe amount of nerfs the Dark Sword received in Dark Souls 3 was crazy and it STILL remained completely insane after all.
4:17 all halberds except all scythes dp piercing damage even if it doesn't look like piercing as BKH attacks they do piercing damage. Leo ring works 7:16 there are no poise from armor in DS3
There is poise from armour in DS3, but it only applies during hyper armor frames you get from certain weapons (Ultra Greatswords, Great Hammers, Greataxes, 2H Halberds and 2H Greatswords). For most other weapons, it makes no difference. For example, if a guy in Havels with a Zweihander clashes with another Zweihander from a guy wearing the ninja set, the guy with Havels will win the trade. But if they were both wielding longswords, then they would both be staggered, because longswords do not activate hyper-armour frames, so poise would mean nothing.
@@AltAccount-dz8rp don't make me to upload yt video just for you. Check counterattack damage with leo ring and without. The easiest way is hollow knigh'ss with sword thrust attack, they do it twice and easy to time also with halberds range not hard to land. Near gargoyles there are 2 knights
Demon's Souls straight swords had a true combo with 2h r1-r2-r1-r2. My friends and I would call it the boletaria combo, pvp deleter Axes had it too which got even better with the master's ring
I agree straight swords in DkS3 are just beastly the only one that got nerfed was the cringiest one that I never used so the class still stands tall today. Lothric or longsword are an amazing side weapon choice just for emergencies if u wanna mix it up.
They are, raw is really bad on most weapons, so is leveling vitality because you lose flynns ring and armor doesn't do anything in DS2. @@carlschrappen9712
DeS - agree. DS - imo curved swords are better. Falchion and Painting guardian sword with weapon buff has extream dps, fast moveset and easy to use. And you can get Falchion right after asylum demon. DS2 - agree. Actually DS2 is the only game in this list where piercing damage is strong (really strong). In ER it's absurdly overrated. It's godlike in PVP, but in PVE counter hit happens only when you trade hits. And you don't want to trade with bosses. My 2nd place goes to twinblades. Red iron twinbade is amazing, Santier's spear before mundane infusion nerf was absolutely broken. DS3 - agree. But! Sellsword and Warden Twinblades are still by far the best pve weapon. As weapon CLASS straight swords are absolutely the best. ER - completely disagree. The only good thing about greatswords is special L2. Curved swords are the best. Bandit's and Scavenger's are absurdly good. Get 2 copies of both, use occult infusion (Bandit's lose tiny amount of damage compared to keen infusion) with jumping attack, consecutive hits and buffs after bleed proc. If your target isn't immune to bleed - Scavengers, single seppuku to proc bleed buffs, spam jump attacks. Bleed is nice extra damage, but it's here to keep AR buff. And it doesn't matter that 2+ bleeds take longer to proc - with such high DPS every boss dies before 2nd bloodloss happens. And if your target is immune to bleed - Bandit's swords still has impressive DPS. And don't sleep on Raptor's talon. It's not THAT good in late game (not NG+, but late part of playthrough), but is copletely busted through early and midgame. And if anyone says other claws are better than Raptors - spit in the face of this freak.
Well I did say if those broken somber weapons didn’t exists it would probably go to great hammers, curved swords or spears but being that the options of which they have are apart of the criteria then how could anything else get number 1? L2 spam is meta and greatswords have the best L2 spam
That's the main problem of ER. Your weapon doesn't matter, since you're either spamming status effects or you're spamming AOWs. For example, straight swords suck, but either power stance them with bleed or spam square off and suddenly they are at similar level as every other meta way to play the game and make almost everything way too easy. But if we focus solely on using weapons as weapons, I kind of do agree with greatswords. They have relatively fast attacks, good damage, good reach and they also stagger enemies that can be staggered. Too bad it doesn't matter, since that's not the correct way to play the game.
You don't have to trade hits for counterattack damage you can dodge or position yourself so you don't get hit by the attack while attacking yourself during their attack animation.
I suppose for bloodborne, you can take each damage type and kinda judge a class based on that. Threaded cane can be under Peirce as well as the rifle spear
@@CerberusMalt I know, just kinda thinking realistically for it, I mean cause if you buy a wooden cane from the shops you don't really expect it to slash someone open, more so poke and bludgeone
9:58 I think they are still the best for poke type ashes except for giant hunt which you can put on colossals. Impaling thrust on greatsword (/lance/heavy thrusting sword) is the highest poise damage per second ash in the game I beleave.
The one common issue with every single souls game is the fact that most larger weapons are swung into the floor. Colossal weapons are understandable but there is no reason you should be swinging your claymore full force into the ground. When I played Mortal Shell one of my favorite things was how fluently the player character swung the sword. No over swinging no long wind ups and no hitting the floor.
You surprised me with Elden Ring tbh, I was fully expecting Katanas. Like you said though there's a ton of good weapon classes in Elden Ring, and also a ton of terrible classes.
Yeah, and while I kinda agree with Greatswords having OP stuff among them, If we ignore blasphemous blade and moonlight I think Greathammers are actually the best weapons. More like Greatswords are just Greathammers with Standart Damage and less stagger buildup. And given none of them are particularly exceptional at DPS, I think the hammers are better as actual weapons against most mobs (Again, discounting the broken weapon art sticks of Blasphemous and Co).
I agree with most of these picks, and perhaps the disagreements come down to you valuing more options within each class. For Elden Ring I could see spears being the best but you raise some good points about greatswords as well as how the classes are largely balanced. Either of those could take the prize imo. For Dark Souls 1 I would have to go with curved swords, for much the same reason that you chose straight swords in DS3. A darkmoon or sunlight blade curved sword has perhaps the most ridiculous dps in the series and can cover pretty much 360 degrees around you if you turn during the swings. Halberds have their good points but like other heavy weapons they have that extra laggy whiff animation when your attack misses. Yeah a spin to win could clear out a gank but it eats a lot of stamina and leaves you vulnerable afterward if enemies survive, why bother when you could swing a falchion, Quelaag’s fury sword, gold tracer, etc 3 times and achieve the same result without taking any risk at all. Curved swords aren’t exactly hurting for variety either so I really can’t see any other weapon class at the number one spot.
Kind of have to disagree on darksouls 3, ultra greatswords are goated in that game. Hard to use, yes, but the damage is no joke and the range makes such a difference, they're also not really all that slow. Most enemies can be shut down in like 2 or 3 attacks of an Ultra Greatsword and you can easily stunlock enemies to death, very useful against faster enemies if you can manage to get them. My favorite move back in the day was opening with an R2 poke attack with the Astoria Greatsword and following up with R1's, would kill pretty much every non boss enemy in the game no BS.
Dark Souls 2 I'd say it's a draw between straightswords and piercing. Sunsword, longsword, ice rapier and Bestoc are just so good. Then after that I'd say katanas. Edit: Nm you're talking about PVE, I'd say greatswords for Souls 2.
So what you're saying is... it is even more worth it to complete Ranni's questline cause you are more likely to utilize the great swords for the Dark Moon Greatsword.
Pretty sure you were only including melee weapons for ER. But if you allowed staves and seals, they would take the cake EASILY. Magic is just stupid strong in ER.
Kinda got blindsided with the Halberds for DS1 cause when i did research for that game, with the exception of the Great Scythe, everyone just said they sucked.
I'm so sad hearing the last part talking about how the dlc could give more stuffs for other classes like scythes and ends up giving just 1 new scythe that you get after beating the final boss ;;-;;
Prefer the ugs in ds2/3 don't get me wrong lothric sword in ds3 is the (in my opinion) strongest straight sword but in ds2 the overhead attacks where the sword comes straight down is unparryable combine that with a high damage and stunlocking groups rather then just one enemy at a time is more useful to me rather then something that swings faster it's the same reasoning behind me liking the ugs in ds3 wide attack range=more enemies staggered managing stamina's second nature to anyone soulsbourne vet so at the end of the day stamina consumption does matter to a degree but if you manage it you'll be fine with any weapon.
I would say Bloodborne has weapon classes. Slow and fast weapons.. Fast weapons a far better in my op. The amount of health you can regain after you have taken damage is greater if you use fast weapons. This is due to the health they bring back and their speed. A big weapon like the Kirkhammer regains a bigger chunk of health per hit as fast weapons but you are usually just able to hit your enemy once or twice. With fast weapons, it is easier to hit them mulitple times and therefore regaining more health. Fast weapons deal damage more quickly because they are faster, therefore stagger a boss quicker.
Ultra GS até usually my favorite weapon class But i cant like It in DS1, It feels 3 times slower than usual, and have no hyper armor, enemies feels harder tô stagger as well
I always try to avoid a lot of the broken stuff in souls games, some of it is so broken that it just makes it way easier than it’s actually intended to be, when I use a melee weapon that’s notoriously known to be broken since I really like using it, I won’t fully upgrade it so it’s balanced out to your normal experience, in defense though, a lot of the broken stuff throughout the games are mainly powered by all the buffs and talismans
Demon Souls - Straight Swords Dark Souls - In my opinion Ultra Great Swords but IDK I can see a good argument for almost every weapon type. Dark Souls 2 - Hammers due to powerstancing but again difficult choice Dark Souls 3 - Curved Swords no contest Elden Ring - Greatswords for sure
For me, being boring is way worse than having low damage, actually high damage and boring moveset is the worse combination possible, it's worse than being boring and having a bad moveset
What's the best class in each souls game? Claymore. (I miss the DS2 moveset) My favorite weapons in souls besides Baemore and katanas are In DS1 were Baller Swag Sword, Golem Axe, Curved swords in DS2 - bandit axe, twinblades, greatswords, hammers and lance. (Wasn't a fan of thrusting weapons) Ds3 - Lothric SS, Carthus CS, greatswords, Sellswords (duh), BKH and the big hammer with square head just because ripostes looked so good with it. In ER - pretty much everything. I love the variety. I used greatswords, great hammers, curved swords and spears the most, but I've played around with just about everything. Its a rare game where fists are amazing. Whips are really good. Daggers can put in work. Even using just shields or bows can carry you through the game. Theres not a class i can think of (crossbows i guess) that you can't find at least one way to make it really powerful.
good video, but you failed to account for the fact that greathammers are actually the best class in every game. except demons souls which is greataxes bc i think is what the cleaver is
I honestly think that in Elden ring we need better fist weapons it’s like they’ve been bad in every souls game and they deserve it at this point so yeah and Ik abt the balls build but doesn’t change the fact that there’s still not a lot of them
Fist weapons(not Claws) are very strong in PvE and offer some of the best poise damage per second in the game. They are able to script boss fights and makes it really easy to do flawless fights at rune Level 1.
So according to my knowledge DeS-Agree Ds1-Agree Ds2-Disagree (i think hammers are just a bit better and easier to use for noobies in general) Ds3-Agree Er-Agree We are on the same ship buddy
“Hopefully they give it to a class that actually needs it like scythes.…” They gave us fucking 1 at the end of a questline after you beat the final boss! Fromsoft, what the hell did scythes do to make you hate them so?!
It's kind of sad just how ridiculous straight swords are in DS3 (barring sellswords of course, that weapon is beyond illegal) because there are other exceptionnal weapon types in DS3. Greatswords, halberds, maces, curved greatswords... so much potential for greatness but fast R1 spam is just too powerful, especially with the insane build flexibility they get on top.
In Elden Ring I use dual wield bastard swords and do jumping attacks over and over again to stun lock everything and win. Game is too easy sadly because of jumping.
@@youwy No I get it. Elden Ring is a very highly balanced unbalanced game. There are a lot of OP choices like you said. I’m hard pressed to think of an alternative. If I had to pick I’d probably say Katanas but Greatswords do have a lot of good choices. I think my bias is a little bit that they’re in an awkward stage of being just a little to slow compared to straight swords, katanas, & curved but not having quite enough bonk power like UGS.
@@subject8776 once again I disagree. You claim they’re best because why? Best damage? No. Best range? No. Giants crusher is niche in situations where strike damage matters. But what makes them better than say Moonveil or star fist or perhaps gransax?
no straight sword in ds3 is more broken than dark sword I stopped using it because I finished the ng+ in just one week and I always take my time to loot everything in the game
The fact that "you can stun every enemy even with a striaghtsword, so poise isnt necessary" strictly a PVE thing, in PVP it is very useful, as without poise a greatsword would stun you out even if trading with a ultra greatsword,if anything you should state the rating is based on PVE only
like this iust only for pve, cause is nnot like that at all in pvp, even in pve is wrong cause ultra in dks 1 is the best because they stagger almost anyone
Gotta disagree with you on elden ring by baseing the choice on weapons with projectiles. If u base it that it just be magic op. The weapons them selves are mid like u said. But the ashes of war require very certin builds to even be worth it.
Sekiro best weapon class is mikiri counter
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Sekiro best weapon class is that super fast light attack chain you get when jumping because it's funny
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@@cactophone4552 second imo, but yeah, spamming this shit is satisfying
ahh i remember the early days of ds3 when everyone had the dark sword in pvp
DARK infused DARK sword tumblebuffed with DARK Blade makes DARK DARK DARK sword.
You can't buff an infused weapon in DS3, only DS2...
@@RaulBetancourtC tumblebuffing is a form of glitch that allows you to buff it.
@@RaulBetancourtCthat’s why he said tumblebuffing………..
how dafq do you tumblebuff, this seems new
Eh, actually, Bloodborne HAS weapon types. In the game, the weapons are separated by church weapons, workshop weapons, vileblood weapons, etc. 🤓☝️
That's damage types tho 🤨
@@JacobHeronKpretty sure that’s not damage types. Bloodborne’s damage types are similar to the other games iirc
@@yamnbam4346 it is a damage type, it is just not listed on the weapons themselves
There are Strength, Skill/Dexterity, Bloodtinge, and Arcane weapons you could also say, even though most of them are ultimately Quality Weapons since they scale in multiple stats.
@@JacobHeronK More workshop weapons have serration (beast bonus damage) and more church weapons have righteous (gross cainhurst enemies bonus damage), but there's exceptions. The church pick has righteous beast hunter (like serrated but it works on more enemies), the cane has both (but only one at a time depending on form), the hunter's axe has nothing, kirkhammer only has righteous in sword form, etc.
You should do a Best weapon class for each element
Good idea for a video
I would argue that curved swords are better than straight swords in ds3. They don’t have as much variation in their moveset as the straight swords do, but in a game where you practically only need r1 attacks I think that doesn’t matter much. The far superior speed and the absurdly low commitment to the two handed r1 attacks allow you to play very aggressively and makes punishing bosses attack windows so much easier. Even the smallest attack windows are punishable since it takes such a short time for the animation to complete. Besides, the curved sword weapon class also has the sellsword twinblades, which is undeniably the best weapon in the game for pve.
Completely agree. Curved swords are always better than their straight sword counterparts in these games. Curved Twinblades are the best in DS3. Especially when you start talking about buffing them with resins.
You should rank the games on their fashion options
Elden Bling has to be the winner for that 😅
If you ignore Bloodborne :3
@@InfiniteBeakNo it's dark souls 3 or Bloodborne.
@@TheGenuineGoat firelink helmet with ringed knight armor and firelink gloves ringed knight pants goes hard
@@Lamajmassar fr
You never mentioned a best Straight Sword for DS3, so here’s my two cents:
Anri’s Straight Sword
- easy to get
- busted ass luck scaling
- passive HP regen
- buffable
- stance weapon art
Lothric knight straight sword - there's a reason it was THE PvP meta weapon. High damage, long, infusable, poke strong attack
It's always the Lothric Knight Sword. That shit was busted back then and is still now. Carried me on my first ds3 playthrough before switching to the also busted frayed blade.
@@georgiykireev9678 I would have suggested that, but it has pretty hefty stat req’s for a straight sword, is outclassed by the standard longsword with many infusions (especially considering its stat reqs).
Anri’s sword has low reqs, much better scaling in its primary damage stat, and can synergize with luck builds
Lothric Knight straight sword was never a pvp meta weapon, it is undoubtedly good ik PvP just based of the fact it is a straight sword, but it is not the best straight sword and they aren't the best class. @@georgiykireev9678
@@6kang971 Lothric I'd just worse than longsword. Longsword has more damage and costs less stamina. You also do not have to grind for it. Just buy it from greyrat
Great video as always, I was expecting DS2 to be the hammer but yeah thrust weapons with the leo ring is busted.
DkS2's meta has always been the rapiers both pve and pvp. Not surprised
@@Walamonga1313in PvP rapiers were kinda limited due to their moveset, I was a lot more afraid of the high skill katana and spear users. Now those can be oppressive af
Edit: curved swords too I guess, the warped sword specifically. Basically, every weapon that was fast with a high counter modifier that wasn't a rapier or dagger
my personal choice in ds2 was the blacksteel katana, fun moveset, the running attack and the 2HR2 i think it was(wide horizontal heavy attack slash) did me well, i swear its like, 70% of the time i threw out that R2 i caught someone with it cause they didnt know it tracks nearly a full 180.
and the running attack was just fun, i almost want to learn how to mod elden ring just to give a katana that sweet lunging stab
Curved swords are the best in ds3, end of story. The best PvE weapon is the sellsword’s, and the best PvP weapon is the pontiff sword. I’ll give straight swords a close second, but CS is the superior choice.
Looking at the top 10 DPS weapons in a dexterity build, it is split 50/50 between straight swords and curved swords, if we go out to the top 20 it is also a perfect 50/50 split. As far as highest DPS possible sellswords wins with 705 DPS, but the rest of the class is in the 500-600 dps range(on par with the straight swords)
Straight swords win for versatility. They are best used one handed which frees up the other hand for all sorts of options. Magic build - staff and longsword. Faith build - catalyst and longsword. Strength build - Greatshield and longsword. Dex/quality build - BKS and straight sword. Crossbows or the dragonhead shield worked well in the offhand as well.
Curved swords also have Demon's Scar, which is mega op
The R2 R2 on the great scythe’s follow up melts but dps wise are u sure the Falchion won’t out DPS Ultras. Great video, really like how through these videos we see how many great weapons were in these games and how underrated some weapon classes are
Don't know about falchion but painter's defintely especially buffed it is the most dps weapon in game, no chances also it bleeds and staggers enemies.
Painting Guardian's Sword is the highest DPS in DS1. But, like most curved swords, its range is so short that it doesn't even work properly on half the bosses' hitboxes. Youwy is right, Halberds are better.
Actually the Painted Guardian's sword, is the highest DPS weapon in the game UNBUFFED. If we count buffs, the highest DPS weapon is Ricard's Rapier. If you buff it with like 400 extra lightning damage with Sunlight Blade, when you use the R2 flurry, that extra damage is being applied in EVERY SINGLE HIT. It's stupid really.
@@RustemKonan yes that’s true I probably should’ve said PGS but I just find it so impractical bc of its annoyingly short range
I’ve never felt like I’m cheating with a melee weapon as much as when I use a Great Hammer in Elden Ring. The stance break mechanic is OP and I feel like I’m bullying most of the bosses.
I'd like to see a list like this, but blind to somber/twinkling/etc. weapons. Only the infusables. The vanilla ones. Judge it by the base traits of the weapon class and not by what special options exist for each class.
I'm playing Dark Souls remastered right now. It's my first FromSoft game. I love the halberd. I also got really lucky and got the dark knight halberd as a drop. The movesets are really satisfying and fun to use
I agree with DS3 I switched off the twin blades for a great sword But I found the quickness of these weapons allowed so many trades that the great sword just couldn’t without getting hit
Interesting to see the Greatswords being ranked the best in Elden Ring, I haven't used them since they were buffed but I wasn't impressed with them when I used them for my first time playing the game. But it's good to know the buffing helped make them a more viable option now.
Well if you’re taking into account their options then they the best by a wide margin but without them probably not
Greatswords have the Ordovis Greatsword, Blasphemous Blade, Marais Executioner Sword and Dark Moon Greatsword. That's 4 weapons that are at least in the top ten best weapons in the game.
Love your videos man...super informative and useful.
I remember when I started Elden Ring I immediately went for a straight sword because I assumed they'd be broken all over again like in DS3 and Demon Souls. Even DS2 did them somewhat justice.
Tthe amount of nerfs the Dark Sword received in Dark Souls 3 was crazy and it STILL remained completely insane after all.
elden rings straight sword are much better for me in ds3 the straight sword were underwhelming
but anyways the ringed knight sword is still super cool
Incredible knowledge mate
4:17 all halberds except all scythes dp piercing damage even if it doesn't look like piercing as BKH attacks they do piercing damage. Leo ring works
7:16 there are no poise from armor in DS3
There is poise from armour in DS3, but it only applies during hyper armor frames you get from certain weapons (Ultra Greatswords, Great Hammers, Greataxes, 2H Halberds and 2H Greatswords). For most other weapons, it makes no difference.
For example, if a guy in Havels with a Zweihander clashes with another Zweihander from a guy wearing the ninja set, the guy with Havels will win the trade. But if they were both wielding longswords, then they would both be staggered, because longswords do not activate hyper-armour frames, so poise would mean nothing.
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@@AltAccount-dz8rp don't make me to upload yt video just for you. Check counterattack damage with leo ring and without. The easiest way is hollow knigh'ss with sword thrust attack, they do it twice and easy to time also with halberds range not hard to land. Near gargoyles there are 2 knights
@@RustemKonan"don't make me to upload yt video just for you" 🙄
@@TimothyGod well the author of the video already checked it by himself and have proven it. Check video about all souls games halberds
Demon's Souls straight swords had a true combo with 2h r1-r2-r1-r2. My friends and I would call it the boletaria combo, pvp deleter
Axes had it too which got even better with the master's ring
I always pick the Astora Straight Sword, it never dissapoints
I agree straight swords in DkS3 are just beastly the only one that got nerfed was the cringiest one that I never used so the class still stands tall today. Lothric or longsword are an amazing side weapon choice just for emergencies if u wanna mix it up.
I think Great axes are overpowered, the dragonslayer greataxe butchered everyone on my 2 playthroughs of the game
@@YEY0806 yes that weapon is S tier
Tfw a straight sword beats out a katana in dex scaling.
What kind of damage, requirements and scaling would a Youwy's Greatsword have? (it drops from the secret DLC boss after Messmer, Miyazaki told me)
Bro has insider knowlage
My favorite ds2 character was an adaptabilty and vitality tank build with Raw weapons. Felt like the game was made for him. Because it was!
Yup, pretty much. Just get the minimum stats for your weapons and infuse them accordingly. Scaling is only really worth it for spellcasters in DS2.
I thought elemental infused weapons were better in DS2.
They are, raw is really bad on most weapons, so is leveling vitality because you lose flynns ring and armor doesn't do anything in DS2. @@carlschrappen9712
DeS - agree.
DS - imo curved swords are better. Falchion and Painting guardian sword with weapon buff has extream dps, fast moveset and easy to use. And you can get Falchion right after asylum demon.
DS2 - agree. Actually DS2 is the only game in this list where piercing damage is strong (really strong). In ER it's absurdly overrated. It's godlike in PVP, but in PVE counter hit happens only when you trade hits. And you don't want to trade with bosses. My 2nd place goes to twinblades. Red iron twinbade is amazing, Santier's spear before mundane infusion nerf was absolutely broken.
DS3 - agree. But! Sellsword and Warden Twinblades are still by far the best pve weapon. As weapon CLASS straight swords are absolutely the best.
ER - completely disagree. The only good thing about greatswords is special L2. Curved swords are the best. Bandit's and Scavenger's are absurdly good. Get 2 copies of both, use occult infusion (Bandit's lose tiny amount of damage compared to keen infusion) with jumping attack, consecutive hits and buffs after bleed proc. If your target isn't immune to bleed - Scavengers, single seppuku to proc bleed buffs, spam jump attacks. Bleed is nice extra damage, but it's here to keep AR buff. And it doesn't matter that 2+ bleeds take longer to proc - with such high DPS every boss dies before 2nd bloodloss happens. And if your target is immune to bleed - Bandit's swords still has impressive DPS.
And don't sleep on Raptor's talon. It's not THAT good in late game (not NG+, but late part of playthrough), but is copletely busted through early and midgame. And if anyone says other claws are better than Raptors - spit in the face of this freak.
Well I did say if those broken somber weapons didn’t exists it would probably go to great hammers, curved swords or spears but being that the options of which they have are apart of the criteria then how could anything else get number 1? L2 spam is meta and greatswords have the best L2 spam
That's the main problem of ER. Your weapon doesn't matter, since you're either spamming status effects or you're spamming AOWs. For example, straight swords suck, but either power stance them with bleed or spam square off and suddenly they are at similar level as every other meta way to play the game and make almost everything way too easy.
But if we focus solely on using weapons as weapons, I kind of do agree with greatswords. They have relatively fast attacks, good damage, good reach and they also stagger enemies that can be staggered. Too bad it doesn't matter, since that's not the correct way to play the game.
@@Snydenthur psss too strong to say ss sucks, might be more accurate to say sword and boarding sucks.
You don't have to trade hits for counterattack damage you can dodge or position yourself so you don't get hit by the attack while attacking yourself during their attack animation.
@@youwyWhat about great hammers convinces you that they could be #1? The great stars and their general poise damage?
IMO paired weapons in DS3 are a weapon class of their own and outclass even straight swords.
You have the gotthard twin swords which are paired straight swords
I suppose for bloodborne, you can take each damage type and kinda judge a class based on that. Threaded cane can be under Peirce as well as the rifle spear
The threaded cane is very obviously slashing, you use a sharp whip or a bladed cane, you almost never thrust except with the untransformed heavy
@@twoshu8940 thrusting is thrusting
@@doll5274 Then you'd list it as Slash/Pierce but the primary function of the weapon is not the thrust my man.
@@CerberusMalt I know, just kinda thinking realistically for it, I mean cause if you buy a wooden cane from the shops you don't really expect it to slash someone open, more so poke and bludgeone
9:58 I think they are still the best for poke type ashes except for giant hunt which you can put on colossals. Impaling thrust on greatsword (/lance/heavy thrusting sword) is the highest poise damage per second ash in the game I beleave.
@9:38 eating those words as we speak
What do you mean?
Would katana be strongest overall for every game? Could even include sekiro and bloodborne kinda
Ds3 had some crazy good axes
The one common issue with every single souls game is the fact that most larger weapons are swung into the floor. Colossal weapons are understandable but there is no reason you should be swinging your claymore full force into the ground.
When I played Mortal Shell one of my favorite things was how fluently the player character swung the sword. No over swinging no long wind ups and no hitting the floor.
You surprised me with Elden Ring tbh, I was fully expecting Katanas. Like you said though there's a ton of good weapon classes in Elden Ring, and also a ton of terrible classes.
i hope all of the new classes are good
Yeah, and while I kinda agree with Greatswords having OP stuff among them, If we ignore blasphemous blade and moonlight I think Greathammers are actually the best weapons.
More like Greatswords are just Greathammers with Standart Damage and less stagger buildup.
And given none of them are particularly exceptional at DPS, I think the hammers are better as actual weapons against most mobs (Again, discounting the broken weapon art sticks of Blasphemous and Co).
"Got hard twinblades" sent me im sorry
Ah yes, the DS3 days when I farmed Lothric Knight Swords so I can have one of each element to counter everything that stands in my way.
After DLC:
Great Katana. Fight me. 👊
In ds 3 the best weapon type are curved swords but only because of Sellsword winblades
I like how you say you wish they expanded on certain weapon types in the elden ring dlc and the game is like “kung fu time tarnished”
DS1: Ultra greatswords
Ds2: Ultra greatswords
Ds3: Ultra greatsword
Elden ring: Ultra greatwsords
Sekiro: Ultra great axe
I still miss Stance on my Baemore
Best weapons in dark souls 2, the bone fist and the sword of artorias using it on the left hand to unlock the special moveset ✋🗿🤚
I agree with most of these picks, and perhaps the disagreements come down to you valuing more options within each class. For Elden Ring I could see spears being the best but you raise some good points about greatswords as well as how the classes are largely balanced. Either of those could take the prize imo.
For Dark Souls 1 I would have to go with curved swords, for much the same reason that you chose straight swords in DS3. A darkmoon or sunlight blade curved sword has perhaps the most ridiculous dps in the series and can cover pretty much 360 degrees around you if you turn during the swings. Halberds have their good points but like other heavy weapons they have that extra laggy whiff animation when your attack misses. Yeah a spin to win could clear out a gank but it eats a lot of stamina and leaves you vulnerable afterward if enemies survive, why bother when you could swing a falchion, Quelaag’s fury sword, gold tracer, etc 3 times and achieve the same result without taking any risk at all. Curved swords aren’t exactly hurting for variety either so I really can’t see any other weapon class at the number one spot.
In DS1 halberds have only 20-30 poise damage like straight swords and katanas, greatswords get 35-52.5 poise damage in contrast.
Dunno for ds3 i would have gone with the twinblades cuz sellsword twinblades just makes the game easy
He's referring to the overall class
@@RemingtonSteelthat changes nothing with his comment
@@TimothyGod It does because the class as a whole isn't that great.
From my point of view dark souls III punishes heavy builds and favorite fast builds.
in DS1 imo, Curved Swords outperform everything else by a ridiculous amount
Missed the chaos rapier in ds2.
Best by far.
Pray they finally fix the Gargoyle weapons.
Which game?
Kind of have to disagree on darksouls 3, ultra greatswords are goated in that game. Hard to use, yes, but the damage is no joke and the range makes such a difference, they're also not really all that slow.
Most enemies can be shut down in like 2 or 3 attacks of an Ultra Greatsword and you can easily stunlock enemies to death, very useful against faster enemies if you can manage to get them. My favorite move back in the day was opening with an R2 poke attack with the Astoria Greatsword and following up with R1's, would kill pretty much every non boss enemy in the game no BS.
Feet ranking next?
Dark Souls 2 I'd say it's a draw between straightswords and piercing. Sunsword, longsword, ice rapier and Bestoc are just so good. Then after that I'd say katanas. Edit: Nm you're talking about PVE, I'd say greatswords for Souls 2.
So what you're saying is... it is even more worth it to complete Ranni's questline cause you are more likely to utilize the great swords for the Dark Moon Greatsword.
Pretty sure you were only including melee weapons for ER. But if you allowed staves and seals, they would take the cake EASILY. Magic is just stupid strong in ER.
Is magic stupid strong in all soul s games
With a proper build dual wield curved swords in Elden ring are broken. Throw on some buffs and most bosses get deleted.
In ds3 is the black knight greatsword my go to weapon
You can try best fist weapon in every soulsgame.
top 10 ng+7 builds pls
Kinda got blindsided with the Halberds for DS1 cause when i did research for that game, with the exception of the Great Scythe, everyone just said they sucked.
I'm so sad hearing the last part talking about how the dlc could give more stuffs for other classes like scythes and ends up giving just 1 new scythe that you get after beating the final boss ;;-;;
I wonder what is the best weapon type in Sekiro...
Probably a straight sword
Prefer the ugs in ds2/3 don't get me wrong lothric sword in ds3 is the (in my opinion) strongest straight sword but in ds2 the overhead attacks where the sword comes straight down is unparryable combine that with a high damage and stunlocking groups rather then just one enemy at a time is more useful to me rather then something that swings faster it's the same reasoning behind me liking the ugs in ds3 wide attack range=more enemies staggered managing stamina's second nature to anyone soulsbourne vet so at the end of the day stamina consumption does matter to a degree but if you manage it you'll be fine with any weapon.
halberts are that good in ds1 hm? normaly iam a baemore or ballersidesword user but i see i have to make another run.
I used guts sword in every single run of every single game, my monkey brain belongs to that weapon alone
I would say Bloodborne has weapon classes.
Slow and fast weapons..
Fast weapons a far better in my op. The amount of health you can regain after you have taken damage is greater if you use fast weapons. This is due to the health they bring back and their speed. A big weapon like the Kirkhammer regains a bigger chunk of health per hit as fast weapons but you are usually just able to hit your enemy once or twice. With fast weapons, it is easier to hit them mulitple times and therefore regaining more health.
Fast weapons deal damage more quickly because they are faster, therefore stagger a boss quicker.
Ultra GS até usually my favorite weapon class
But i cant like It in DS1, It feels 3 times slower than usual, and have no hyper armor, enemies feels harder tô stagger as well
I always try to avoid a lot of the broken stuff in souls games, some of it is so broken that it just makes it way easier than it’s actually intended to be, when I use a melee weapon that’s notoriously known to be broken since I really like using it, I won’t fully upgrade it so it’s balanced out to your normal experience, in defense though, a lot of the broken stuff throughout the games are mainly powered by all the buffs and talismans
Ultra greatsword in everything. The end .(Sekiro excepted)
You can infuse lothric knight's sword right?
Yes both the straight and ultra greatsword versions. I have an inventory full of each with most of the different infusions.
Yes I meant to say Holy Lothric Sword for that part
Demon Souls - Straight Swords
Dark Souls - In my opinion Ultra Great Swords but IDK I can see a good argument for almost every weapon type.
Dark Souls 2 - Hammers due to powerstancing but again difficult choice
Dark Souls 3 - Curved Swords no contest
Elden Ring - Greatswords for sure
For me, being boring is way worse than having low damage, actually high damage and boring moveset is the worse combination possible, it's worse than being boring and having a bad moveset
What's the best class in each souls game?
Claymore. (I miss the DS2 moveset)
My favorite weapons in souls besides Baemore and katanas are
In DS1 were Baller Swag Sword, Golem Axe, Curved swords
in DS2 - bandit axe, twinblades, greatswords, hammers and lance. (Wasn't a fan of thrusting weapons)
Ds3 - Lothric SS, Carthus CS, greatswords, Sellswords (duh), BKH and the big hammer with square head just because ripostes looked so good with it.
In ER - pretty much everything. I love the variety. I used greatswords, great hammers, curved swords and spears the most, but I've played around with just about everything. Its a rare game where fists are amazing. Whips are really good. Daggers can put in work. Even using just shields or bows can carry you through the game. Theres not a class i can think of (crossbows i guess) that you can't find at least one way to make it really powerful.
good video, but you failed to account for the fact that greathammers are actually the best class in every game. except demons souls which is greataxes bc i think is what the cleaver is
Lmao the meat cleaver is also a large hammer. You can go wrong with that weapon class in any game
I honestly think that in Elden ring we need better fist weapons it’s like they’ve been bad in every souls game and they deserve it at this point so yeah and Ik abt the balls build but doesn’t change the fact that there’s still not a lot of them
Fist weapons(not Claws) are very strong in PvE and offer some of the best poise damage per second in the game. They are able to script boss fights and makes it really easy to do flawless fights at rune Level 1.
So according to my knowledge
DeS-Agree
Ds1-Agree
Ds2-Disagree (i think hammers are just a bit better and easier to use for noobies in general)
Ds3-Agree
Er-Agree
We are on the same ship buddy
“Hopefully they give it to a class that actually needs it like scythes.…”
They gave us fucking 1 at the end of a questline after you beat the final boss! Fromsoft, what the hell did scythes do to make you hate them so?!
It's kind of sad just how ridiculous straight swords are in DS3 (barring sellswords of course, that weapon is beyond illegal) because there are other exceptionnal weapon types in DS3.
Greatswords, halberds, maces, curved greatswords... so much potential for greatness but fast R1 spam is just too powerful, especially with the insane build flexibility they get on top.
best weapon class is the biggest baddest bonkiest stick you can find
Nah DS3 goes to Ultra greatswords, I’ll never rest until we get the vertical moveset again
In Elden Ring I use dual wield bastard swords and do jumping attacks over and over again to stun lock everything and win. Game is too easy sadly because of jumping.
Iron Knuckles in DeS PS3 ftw
I get your point on Elden Ring. I still just disagree.
pretty sure youwy intentionally throws in at least one hot take for engagement
Based on the criteria I was using I couldn’t put anything else at number 1
@@youwy No I get it. Elden Ring is a very highly balanced unbalanced game. There are a lot of OP choices like you said. I’m hard pressed to think of an alternative. If I had to pick I’d probably say Katanas but Greatswords do have a lot of good choices. I think my bias is a little bit that they’re in an awkward stage of being just a little to slow compared to straight swords, katanas, & curved but not having quite enough bonk power like UGS.
@@williamfryer8460To slow for what though? The two best weapons in the game are greatswords. I beat the game with a Giant-Crusher, that is slow.
@@subject8776 once again I disagree. You claim they’re best because why? Best damage? No. Best range? No. Giants crusher is niche in situations where strike damage matters. But what makes them better than say Moonveil or star fist or perhaps gransax?
no straight sword in ds3 is more broken than dark sword I stopped using it because I finished the ng+ in just one week and I always take my time to loot everything in the game
Most ss are better than dark sword though.
Only DS3 and Elden Ring didn’t surprise me. I was like “With the options in Elden Ring he can’t possibly not pick Greatswords”
Sellsword in ds3????
Where bow weapon class and crossbow and greatbows???
Guts sword, guts sword, guts sword guts sword
It’s hammer and great hammers for the whole fromsoft line If you disagree your opinion is wrong
I’m sorry but the answer in Elden Ring is spears, no question.
I disagree about DS 1 and DS 3. Curved swods is best weapon class there, it's S-tier in pve and pvp too.
Best class weapon in er is katanas and its not even close
Nah, blasphemous blade, ordivis, moonlight GS, ghost poker, sacred sword relic, gs have it all
Now do worst weapon class in every souls game
good list but you really lost me when you said the ds3 ganks were worse than ds2
19 new flails in er dlc promise guys
The fact that "you can stun every enemy even with a striaghtsword, so poise isnt necessary" strictly a PVE thing, in PVP it is very useful, as without poise a greatsword would stun you out even if trading with a ultra greatsword,if anything you should state the rating is based on PVE only
nice!
No love for Iro GS elden ring
like this iust only for pve, cause is nnot like that at all in pvp, even in pve is wrong cause ultra in dks 1 is the best because they stagger almost anyone
Gotta disagree with you on elden ring by baseing the choice on weapons with projectiles. If u base it that it just be magic op. The weapons them selves are mid like u said. But the ashes of war require very certin builds to even be worth it.
Magic ≠ weapons
Claymore Baemore
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