MLB's New Rules Are Saving Baseball and People Hate It
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Maybe some day they could "save" baseball by addressing ridiculous blackout restrictions and tv deals that push people away from using extra effort or money needed to watch any baseball at all.
Especially when going to games is expensive as hell.
Could not agree more.
Yep just got blacked out of a regional game
It doesn't make sense to me. The tv deals make people not watch the game. If the MLB wants to make more money, make it more accesible.
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Yeap. I paid for MLBTV and still can't watch local teams. Like, WTF! I have to use a damn VPN to get around the blackout restrictions
Save baseball by making tickets affordable, and letting folks watch it on TV, end blackouts.
If you end blackouts, then there would be no ticket sales.
@@ronaldmayle1823 not if u made them cheaper and affordable
@@sinfinite7516 Someone has to pay the millions of dollars in salaries of players and owners.
@@ronaldmayle1823 more people watching and attending = more money
Underrated comment
When I was a boy growing up in Boston in the 60s, the game was great. There was plenty of day baseball and day/night double headers. The season and World Series ended in early October, not November. Also, as a boy growing up, almost all the Red Sox games were televised on UHF, which could watch without paying for it. My parents were poor and could not afford to pay for me to watch baseball. I never went to a game, but I was able to watch the games on TV or hear it on the radio. Also, the World Series games were in the daytime. Young kids have a hard time watching baseball at night if they have to go to school or their parents can't afford cable. Baseball has gotten ridiculous with its overpriced tickets and cable viewing. When I was a boy, I and all my friends' first love was baseball. Now, it's a sport for the rich, privileged middle-aged men. If they want to save baseball, make the sport available for young boys. Also, when I was a boy, I played whifle ball, baseball, and softball with my friends on the streets or the park. My parents couldn't afford to let me play little league. I grew up following my beloved Red Sox and watched their games on TV or listened to them on the radio. I feel bad for kids growing in Yuppie Suburbia, where they can play sports on the streets. No wonder why kids have no interest in baseball. Greed is killing baseball. Make tickets affordable for families, and put baseball on regular tv.
I grew up in the same era and me and my friends played in the never maintained school yard field while the little league all played down the road in the well manicured field. Occasionally they'd try to chase us off the school field, but since we were the ones who maintained the field with our own lawn mowers that wasn't happening. They had to beat us if they wanted our field and we always stomped them mercilessly and sent them home in tears..lol Splintered wooden bats, gloves that were once our grandfathers and balls wrapped in tape..The bases were old chunks of plywood or whatever else was handy..and we never had uniforms..but all the best players in the neighborhood played with us and not the nepotists little league..
Very well said
Reading these comments took me back 60 years to the best times of my life.
That's why I like some of these exciting younger players. They excite kids to get into the sport. Let's players showboat a little, in reason. It's exciting.
Getting kids hooked is the way to save the sport long term, but MLB won't realise that for many years
100 percent right!!!!
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Zack Greinke shaking off his own pitches is one of the best things I have heard in my whole life.
It's a genius move because it inserts doubt into the batter's mind. At least half of an at bat is mind games by the catcher and pitcher messing with the batter.
If the question was name a pitcher that shook off his own pitch selection.... i would have guessed him.
It’s also the most Zack Greinke thing I’ve heard in awhile. 🤣
@@toms7114
“Hitting is all about timing. Pitching is about disrupting timing.”
Watched his game earlier. Weird to see the catcher agreeing or not on the called pitch
For a sport that doesn’t exist you do a great job covering it
It doesn’t exist, so he’s covering his imagination. We are merely buying into his fantasy. Maybe someday _baseball_ will exist.
Man i confused this channel with Baseball's not dead often lol. I even thought the channels is own by the same guy.
what the hell is baseball?
Where can I buy this video game.
@@totaltrol it’s all lost media. Nobody knows except for a couple “chosen ones” who know how to tap into “the zone.”
I went to my first baseball game in my 28 year life on june 7th 2023, Mets vs Braves. And I must say as a new baseball fan the whole experience was very enjoyable. The amount of game that went on was perfect not once was I bored watching the game. Before this year I never would have imagined going to a baseball game because they seemed boring...
Meanwhile, I went to my first baseball game since 2018, and I was RELEIVED at how quickly the game ended. Mind you, I've only ever gone to three games beforehand. Two of them were extra inning games.
This new pitch clock is MUCH appreciated.
I went to a game earlier this year. Holy fuck was it dreadful, 1 hour in and we're already in the 7th inning. I want my baseball games to feel like an event, not an average trip to the grocery store. But it's okay, according to this generation, having a low attention span is good
@@sethblvck Maybe increased attendance evens it out.
I've been a big baseball fan for 23 years and the game is much more enjoyable. Baseball puritans are bad for the sport and they need to be ignored. They're like old men complaining about the 3point shot in basketball
😂wont attend another game with Millennium. I hate the fast pace and is extremely boring to watch
I went to my first baseball game last week (yankees against blue jays at yankee stadium). It was just overall a great experience, even though it was a "boring" low scoring game. It seems to me (a complete novice) that the clock really made a difference and forced the game to flow at a nice pace. And it was not too quick, it still was a quite relaxing experience unlike every other sport I'm used to here in Europe.
I kinda like the long games, although it never seemed long to me
That's an interesting moment:
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I learned a couple of things there though. One is that the runner could still be out. If the 1st baseman can beat him home then right covers first and center covers second. Why? Loose change. Flat footed outfielders should practice shoe string on the run catches and all in one throws as well. Other than that it was 8 men out for various reasons 🤣. But the bottom line there Adam my friend happens at approximately 13 seconds and 15. The game mostly calls itself with no real penalties of ANY kind.
If you have no previous experience, how the hell would you know it makes a difference? I swear, every npc just says the thing they think they're supposed to say.
@@saulspeaks2557 "If you have no previous experience, how the hell would you know it makes a difference?" Yeah I guess common sense or just thinking about it for longer than 4 milliseconds
@@coryselvidge8812 It is absolutely wild to me that you thought that was some kind response. Are you drunk or distracted? I don't like feeling second hand embarrassment. Edit your comment
Two things people hate; change and the way things are.
Lol well said
People approve of comfort far more than change
LMAOOO facts
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@@malfunkshin873 MLB is totally broken - people complained about game length in 1908 and it's only increased since then - and given people have the attention span of a goldfish these days....
The problem with baseball is that I CANT WATCH IT. I downloaded the mlb app and paid the subscription and the app still tells me “you can’t watch postseason games”
ITS OPENING DAY!!!
I swear the MLB does not want me to watch it. I have to watch on the go (I’m currently in Japan) and the MLB won’t allow me to PAY to watch a damn game because apparently their app thinks it’s the postseason or it thinks I’m too far away from St. Louis.
They make it too damn complicated to watch a damn game
I use a VPN to get around it. It's so annoying
At that point turn on DAZN and watch NPB.
I have taken to watching restreams of sports not on cable because even subscription services geographically blackout which is so dumb.
If they wont let me watch what I pay for, i just dont pay anymore. They should at least let you select X teams to be able to watch every game of. But nope. Its geographical still
@@jewels3846 it completely defeats the purpose of paying for a subscription to any sports league app. They legitimately do not want people to watch their product.
@@jewels3846 kinda stupid that a business would restrict customers from buying a product. MLB and Doctors are the only salesman that you have to convince to sell you a product.
In middle school the school took a trip to a game and it was my first time seeing a baseball game (I didn't know anything about the baseball at all). There was so much down time between pitches and everything I didn't even know the game was going on for almost an hour, I thought they were warming up or something because almost nothing was happening.
As a former baseball player, MLB players not being able to hit opposite field is just insane and lazy. To be playing at that high of level but not able to control where you hit it is ridiculous. I understand the MLBs reasoning for the rule, but if you suck at hitting one direction and they put a shift on you, maybe it’s time to learn how to hit the other way
Well said, it’s a masterful tactic. Either people like baseball or not. This won’t help the sport it’s for tv station time slots lol
Top hitters can, but a lot struggle to be overly accurate on some pitches. 90mph fastball right down the middle? Good hitters could probably place it exactly where they want on the field
this aged like milk. they got rid of shifts and baseball is more fun to watch them ever. ticket sales are wayyyy up. the league is seeing growth for the first time in decades.
If the opposing pitcher is throwing pitches down and away to have you either hit a ground ball or strikeout swinging, hit the ball the opposite way.
The ghost runner rule just feels like me and my buddies in our backyard making up rules because we only had 6 people wanting to play...
it's been a rule in games that are 18u for a long time. It's called the "texas tiebreaker rule". It's also been a thing in fast pitch softball for a long time
@@meetra5073 doesnt mean it's right
@@meetra5073 and in sandlots everywhere for a long time
@@boignish doesn't mean it's not good
😂 felt that frfr
MLB holding batboys/batgirls being held to a higher standard than their umpires is crazy...
The batboys need to unionize. Pay their dues in gummy bears.
@@PAGoTribe1963 everybody is pro union Starbucks, pro union Walmart, pro union this and that until they watch sports
@@microsoftspam I don't think those people overlap.
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I worked there September 2007- June 2008, I got written up for saying that word and not even in a rally the employees way. It was in a song I was singing. They're pro slave labor, pro sweatshop, pro CCP, and anti workers rights. They also lied about paid breaks at the orientation.
@@microsoftspam there's a difference between unionizing against shitty corporations and unions in sports
I think the pitch clock will irrelevant as pitchers get used to it. Pitchers used to pitch at the pitch clock pace without the clock. Any baseball fan who is over thirty probably watched Mark Buerle pitch at least once.
The bigger based only favor the runner on tag plays. They favor the defense otherwise. The ball gets there faster than the runner.
Larger bases means you can "round the bases quicker"... Making triples and going from 1st-to-home a lot easier. The trade off benefits the offense on any ball hit past the infield especially with runners on base. And in 2 out situations.
It will never be irrelevant. It limits the options available as a mind game to manipulate batter expectations on timing.
@@JD-xz1mx Mark Buerle managed to play mind games and still get the ball off I'm less than 10 seconds. Just saying
Aaaaaand arm injuries are up.
Would love another analysis of this at the end of the season
Same, that'd be good
Joey Gallo still getting shifted in shallow right by loopholes is hilarious to me
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At this point watching baseball is like watching a group of statisticians discuss a complex board game. There’s a bunch of percentages for obscure actions, and a lot of meticulous rules.
Luckily all of these rules shouldn’t be able to make the viewing experience worse. The viewer doesn’t have to keep track of how many pickoffs there have been, what the timer is, or how large the bases are. But they definitely notice games taking less than 3 hours, more steals, and more scoring.
yup
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Wow, rule 3.16 seems extremely odd. And who is this Jesús fellow? Is he one of the Dominican players? Dan is right, baseball rules are getting confusing.
All most as bad as watching Golf.
More like a group of Statisticans vs Lawyers organizing a complex board game. 😖
I agree these rules are going to turn out to be amazing but the extra innings "ghost runner" rule is still god awful
The pitch clock needs to be adjusted.
The pick off rules needs to be adjusted.
The 3 hitter rule needs to be abolished, that one is just terrible. So is the ghost runner.
The rule I actually really like is the bases being bigger. Encourages more running without making it too easy for the runner. I still see guys getting thrown out, but it emboldens them enough to run more. I like that one a lot...
The new rules suck I have no interest in watching the game I grew up watching and playing the game looks like rushed garbage now
Yup. It’s terrible. I hate it.
@@g-mancollections5264 Yeah but adjustments are fairly easy to make. If we find this year that playoff baseball needs more time, then they can literally just change the rules for next year.
@@santumi2298 they need to be changed now...we can see how they negatively effect the game already. Make a change at the Allstar break.
Baseball fans when they cant watch their favorite pitcher sit there for 20 minutes before walking the batter: 😡😡😡😡😡😡😢😢😢😢
You obviously never excelled at this game in anyway.et me guess? Video games have always been your #1 go to, right?
Max Scherzer on the mound could be diagnosed as psychotic. So him using the pitch clock as a weapon is on brand.
Zack Greinke using PitchCom in Spring Training and not taking it all seriously is totally him as well. Zack calling his own pitches must have been wonderful for him.
People with social anxiety like Greinke are going to absolutely love the additional control it gives
Shaking off his own pitches is the most greinke thing ever
Scherzer 100% on brand with the pitch clock.
Love me some Scherzer.
How long before Scherzer gets a second amendment to his own rule? If there’s a way to break it, he’s the one to figure it out
Today I watched the O's vs Red Sox and honestly? The 3 hours flew by. Felt SOOO fast, despite it being so long from it being a 10-9 game
same with the jays cardinals game
I'm a Rays fan. Rays beat the Tigers today in 2:14. Never seen a shorter Rays game.
That game would've taken 4.5 hours last year, especially with it being a high scoring AL East game!
@@carlpacquing2575 and it would have been great. It's a different game might as well create new records
I never minded a 3+ hour game. It was the lack of action. And these rules seem to have fixed it.
The time problem isn't the rules, it's the endless routines of the players. How many times do you have to "touch here touch there, shift your cap" etc.
they are addressing two issues though. The length of the game, yes, but the rule changes (aside from the clock) are aimed at creating more action.
and yet the still DONT allow the one guy who calls balls and strikes to see the tech that indicates if its a ball or strike. Its BEYOND stupid.
Longest game from opening day was Cardinals/Blue Jays at 3 hours 38 minutes. Mostly attributed to 384 combined pitches thrown, 19 combined runs, 12 pitching changes.
Yeah, as a Jays fan, who watched that game. The length of that game was NOT due to general delays. Something was happening every half inning.
Well you wanted more offense....
Certainly longer than what people want, but at least offense was happening. People have no problem watching 3 hour football games because things happen pretty consistently in that time.
Yup. The second longest game on opening day (BAL @ BOS) also had a combined 19 runs, 26 hits, 3 errors, 10 pitching changes, 344 pitches, and was only 3:10. Average game opening day was 2:45, median time was 2:38, and only 5 games over 3:00 (only that one over 3:10). Shortest games (two) were 2:14. Not a bad start.
"Game is longer because of a ton of action" isn't a problem.
I have never understood why pitchers never got more involved in pitch calling. Jimmy Key is the only pitcher I've ever seen that would give signs to the catcher.
The catcher would give the initial sign and then Jimmy relay his sign back. If the catcher put down a "1" but he wanted to throw a "3" then he would "swipe" with
his glove 2 times. It was very efficient and didn't require any technology at all.
Greinke on occasion will hand signal or even scream the signs to his catcher with the batter looking at him.
Ohtani calls his own pitches
Man, Jimmy Key was one hell of a pitcher, loved him in Toronto.
Tommy John did that .
Technology that kills human exchange of thoughts is not good for us. Speeding up the game is good, but having a computer system that essentially is a one way form of communication makes baseball even more individualistic than it already is.
In a world where cooperation and communication are in serious decline - arguably endangered - it is a sad thing to see one of the most timeless and unique forms of communication and cooperation in sports, "the battery", essentially neutered by tech. It's just sports, but it's another area where we are losing what makes us special.
I won’t be surprised if they come up with a rule limiting outfield shifts, dividing the outfield into thirds based off the lines of 2nd base
Incoming Rule Changes:
2024 - Two strikes for a strikeout
2025 - Maximum limit of 9 batters per inning
2026 - Infielders cannot move more than 3 feet in any direction to field a ball
2027 - Two outs per inning
2028 - Seven innings per game
2029 - No extra innings. Now a "tied" column in the standings.
Hey, these are all rules that will speed up the game just like MLB wants and help with offense a bit.
@@priestofsyrinx6681 I'm just glad you don't make any of the rules lol definitely not your area
I just want them to bring chew back.
I'll voice my opinions on the rule changes after I've seen what it does in the next few months. However, the one thing I can't stand is the extra inning ghost runner. That to me is atrocious.
I do like how they dropped the defensive shifts though. Lefties AVG will skyrocket.
The ghost runner rule is so bad man
The ghost runner made me turn off what game I watch off after 9. If the teams don't care and just want the game over with, why should I watch.
The ghost running is outrageous to me, and slightly behind that is everything to do with the pitch clock. They are talking about punishing bat boys... heaven forbid teams have something fun and memorable for a child or fans. The shift rules seemed half baked and don't go far enough.
@@gregpenismith1248 far enough as in "they dont let clubs freely do whatever they want because this is baseball not "Rob Mannfred's penny squeezing simulator?" Because I agree, not letting teams play ball smarter and artificially restricting them is lame as fuck.
It should only be implanted after they've played ad least two real innings. Like the 12th.
I'm 63 an old school fan and I love ethe new rules. The players themselves caused this by taking forever to get in the box, to deliver a pitch, all the throwing over, stepping out, and so on.
I think you’re right. Batters caused this, and every single rule change or alteration benefits them. Rush pitchers, bigger bases, shift restrictions, pick-off limitations. I predict a higher than usual amount of extra inning games as lead changes will go back and forth due to extra offense.
Im only 38 and i couldnt agree more. I also played at the college level.... PLAY. THE. GAME. The amount of time cut off each game on average shows you roughly how much time every game is saved just cutting out this superstition nonsense in between every single pitch by batters and pitchers. I dont have 4 hrs to watch 162 games a yr. These rules are going to save this game that got embarrassing and out of control with time eating.
@@TheGavrael batters didn’t really cause it. Fans did. It is in a persons nature to prefer movement and offense in a sport and that’s in every sport. The MLB is a business and they want money so they have to adjust the game to get more fans in.
@@thrillainthemanilla1409 Fans didn't cause it anymore than fans caused the super sensitive roughing the passer rules in the NFL. The league messes with things as they see fit. MLB wants more money and they think this is a way to get it. When looking at proposed rule changes to increase 'excitement', they absolutely focused on hitters.
I know everyone talks about the predictive power of the Simpsons, but in 50 years, maybe Futurama will have predicted the state of baseball.
I personally know of no baseball fan who will now attend more games because they are 22 minutes shorter. Hell, most people I know who attend games get there hours early to tailgate.
@@thrillainthemanilla1409 an MLB game was consistently between 2:40 to 2:50 long prior to the 2010s. The past decade we started approaching north of 3:10. Did the fans cause that? No. Managers and players.
I went to a Rockies game this past Sunday (Apr 30th) and it felt like baseball but even my wife who isn't a baseball fan commented that the game was flying by. It felt like baseball though.
Ryan Braun stepping out of the box to redo all his uniform was bull. I'm so happy that baseball is going faster.
This is way better than the new rule explanations all the RSNs are airing.
Baseball is in its own horror movie rn
Loved your Midsommar video!!!
There is word that the stadiums are losing revenue from the shorter game times. Less time equals less money being spent at the consession stands.
From the discussions I'm hearing over my local sports talk air waves, there is a possibility that stadiums may end up opening the gates earlier which I like that idea. I never get to see my home team practice on the field and the gates always seem to open when the visiting team is practicing. So this would be a nice change if it happens. Spend more time at home away from home.
Long run there will be far more fans in stadium so the revenue at concession stands will be more than made up. Attendance has been dropping like crazy
Nobody practices in the big leagues anymore. Maybe once a month a couple guys will take some gbs/fbs but they don’t even use fungus now, the ball is shot out of a handheld cannon (dead serious). If you’re referring to batting practice though, every mlb park has always opened for BP.
@@PeopleRTellingme geeze I didn't think it was that bad. Thanks for the info.
Yeah, and annoyingly so far, only a few stadiums have extended beer sales into the eighth inning. Annoyingly the Giants here haven’t even though they probably have one the largest percentage of fans who aren’t driving themselves after the game.
People really aren't rushing to pay $7 for a hot dog after they've dropped $1,000 for their kids to come with them because we're paying Shohei Ohtani $1Billion.
these rules have worked out great so far. I have watched more televised baseball this year than any other season already
Im a baseball traditionalist. But I just don't understand how the game has gotten so long. Seems the changes are good from what I can tell so far
Losing a WS game because of a pitching violation will cause a riot.
Then they better not forget the rules when the game is on the line.
Give them bread and circus, and they will never revolt.
Are you sure?
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It will cost someone a game and people will be pissed. Umpires can be assholes about shit. Umpires will weaponize the pitch clock. In theory I think the pitch clock can be ok but I think the timing is too small and the pickoff attempt rule is stupid.
Overall I'm interested to watch the impact of the rule changes over the course of the season. The only issue I have at the moment is MLB going after bat boys, that's just not cool.
Bat boys need to be on point, no more lazy focus
@@jrick5322😂
The should all be like tennis sideline kids. Also they should be kids and not fat adults who tear their ACLs tripping.
Yeah going after bat boys is over the top. You'll save what, a couple seconds per game at most? It's silly and I'd feel bad for an overweight kid who's a bat boy and can't run very fast.
Don't see it as going after the BB. The manager may give the kid instructions to dilly-dally or drag his feet executing his duties. Using the bat boy to manipulate the rules is something that about half of the managers/players would do.
The only change I’d make is adjust the pitch clock so it doesn’t determine the outcome of a tied 9th inning game with bases loaded and full count
But it dictates all other 8 innings? That's illogical... The players have 1 job they've been doing their entire life. Lmao😅 throw ball, hit ball... Keep it simple and its much more enjoyable. Keep the drama for the Real Housewives please...
That doesn’t make sense man a rule has to be applied at all times or it’s not a rule. Almost every other sport can end on a penalty even a delay of game penalty so if it ends a big game that’s unfortunate but it’s not hard to follow the pitch clock so players need to just pay attention
I have several issues with this. The main one is changing the game you might as well throw the record books out.
Damn I don’t like the changes exactly but this is definitely going to be the most exciting year in baseball in a long time by sheer chaos alone. It’s like a huge balance patch in a videogame 😂
I guess whether real life or virtual a game is a game.
It's only exciting if the games actually matter, which they can't if the game is distilled to a series of gimmicks
As someone who doesn't regularly watch baseball, I look forward to the brawls that come out of these new rules
the shift change is gonna make such a negligible difference nobody even gonna notice.
no lol its already a lame season with the crap rules
Someone give me a compelling reason why should shell out hundreds of dollars to have my family attend a shortened game!? Such a shame
Some are already speculating that the pitch clock might be connected to increased Tommy John surgeries, i.e. the pitch clock hurts pitchers, by having less downtime between each pitch. I don' think this is the case. But it's still to early to say, anyway. And if it turns out to be the case, perhaps new pitching styles will develop, or things like the opener will become more common.
I'm not a big fan of the shift rule still, but thank god for the pitch clock. It's been long overdue. I'm also a big fan of stealing getting to be emphasized again, it was sad seeing it start to fade away outside of teams using specialist money on it.
Not a fan of the ghost runner in extras though.
hot take, i would like them to move the fences back 5 or 10 feet, it would open up space increasing doubles and triples, while also decreasing homeruns thus forcing teams to steal bases, hit and run, bunt ect to score runs, instead of get on base and stand there hoping for a homerun
Absolutely agree
So, a bomb would really have to be a BOMB! I am ok with that. So many times I see a hitter put one over the fence but when I saw the swing my first thought was no way that is going out.
@@robertcross5794
Especially in places like Colorado. Might need to move the fences back 20 feet there lol
Tell that to the Yankees.
Stolen bases are already way way way up this year
The rule to force batters to stay in the box is a good rule.
The problem is not that they are a foot or two outside, but because some tend to wonder around in circles. Nobody wants to wait for them to get themselves together.
agreed. its ridiculous how much time those fools waste. One of the many reasons baseball has been declining in popularity for decades now, younger ppl would rather watch much more exciting Bball or football
Yeah its annoying as fuck when they have to readjust their gloves after every pitch or re coke up on the bat. Like jesus fuck, you didnt even swing and ur fixing the velcro on your glove. Like its going fuck up your hitting .
@@SlutBurgerWithCheese
Yeah
Flashbacks of Nomar Garciaparra :)
and Mike Hargrove - The Human Rain Delay (it's on youtube)
I only have a problem rules allowing the officials (umps) to cause a run scored. They could easily decide a game for their own private purposes. It's like a football official awarding a field goal as a penalty.
This is all about advertising and TV time and not about the fans. Speeding up the game this way is not improving the game in a way that will bring in new fans. The networks want more hours to serve more content per day. Baseball has always been a chess game and this is detrimental to that. Making these rules are the result of MLB changing the fundamentals of the game. Instead of teaching actual hitting and valuing high average hitters, they taught a type of baseball that wants hitters to use an uppercut swing to inflate home run totals. The steroid era skewed the view of MLB and what the fans wanted moving forward. Lastly the balk rule needs to be just that. The exception they made for Japanese pitchers years ago has been completely detrimental to the game.
Opening day was only a few days ago and from the games i've seen they are already 30+ minutes shorter, have more balls in play, and more runs. It's fucking awesome.
Yet you still get 3 to 5 minutes in between every half inning for commercials😂😂😂
@johnwayne9828 yeah, why wouldn't you? It takes time for teams to get into position and ready for the next inning.
@@ahokay3119 yall bitching about "down time", meanwhile players gotta stand around waiting for ok from upstairs to start play again because of the commercial breaks. Players are ready when they get in position on the field,but hafta stand around waiting for commercial breaks to end.
yeah I love games with no strategy and actual thinking
@@johnwayne9828 One team gets out of position, while another team gets into position and stretches/warms up, after a half-inning of relative inactivity on the bench. The grounds crew also carries out routine maintenance on the field. These things take a few minutes; and that time isn't specifically reserved, only for commercials -- it's just when it's most convenient to air them. Nobody's "bitching." You're just wrong, and you're salty about it.
This is the perfect example of how you have to make a bunch of stupid rules to maintain an even stupider rule
@@kingsofthegridiron This stupid game has a much greater chance to survive in the future. Gridiron football? Concussions, CTE, mass murders, suicides, and permanent brain damage has scared parents into not allowing their kids to play CTE-ball. The middle class is leaving football in droves in not allowing their kid to play a game that gives them permanent brain damage.
Oh really? And what are you complaining about? What’s “stupider” about it?
@@lorenzodemedici1if people quit playing/watching football, they’re not going to play/watch baseball. They’re going to move on to basketball and soccer. Pitch count is the only thing that can save baseball.
Rules get made and people test the limits and that’s how the rule gets honed over time.
@@Parker-- I don't really care if the people who watch and play football don't participate in baseball. All I know is that baseball doesn't have a mass murder, suicide, permanent brain damage, and most important of all, declining youth participation problem. The game of baseball has survived since the 1860s. Your beloved gridiron football may not survive the CTE and concussion issue.
A draft Kings ad? 😂
And we wonder why sports gambling has become a problem. A player cant even watch a video essay about baseball without being beat over the head with gambling ads.
Who thought it was a good idea to legalize sports betting?
Bro you should do an updated version showing the affects of these new rules this season
I like the idea of the pitch clock but a tie (or close) game in the later innings not being rushed and allowing tension to build is one of the best things in sports. I don’t want to see a bottom of the 9th in the playoffs get rushed. I wouldn’t mind maybe seeing the pitch clock not being used if the tying run is on deck in the 8th & 9th innings. Just an idea
No! The beginning of the slippery slope.
Baseball, to me, it’s very different as a fan, from regular season to postseason. Regular season, it is a game made for radio. The slow pace and long season are made for story telling and really showcase the abilities of good radio broadcasters. As a fan, you listen all summer long and get to hear all kinds of interesting stories, including about the old days, from the color commentator. Post-season is a different beast.
Postseason baseball is great tv. The slow pace again becomes a feature, but instead of for storytelling, it’s for suspense. Some of the most memorable visuals in my sports-watching life are MLB pitchers staring in to get the sign, coming set, and summoning up their focus and energy to make the pitch, on a cold October night.
Is baseball slow paced? Yes. But so is golf. So what? It’s not for everyone. How long do cricket matches take? But they still have their devotees.
That’s just a little defense of the slower pace. I will say, the points for wanting to shorten the game are not invalid. MLB just needs to understand that suspense and story telling are part of their product too.
Nope!!!
@@jamesdrake142 very good point.
Playoffs this year will be a shitshow. Just wait for games to be decided by the pitchclock
Really feels like American sports are all about "highlights" rather than the actual sport, probably why Football (soccer) isn't as popular over there. These changes might well result in more hits and web gems but, they also subtract from any duels between batters and pitchers, and web gems are good because they're not as common, if you saw 3 a game they wouldn't be called "web-gems" it would just be fielding.
I dunno about the changes, seems overkill to me, I really like baseball, but American sports culture as a whole kinda makes me sick to my stomach
Baseball was America's Pastime from the 1890s through the 1970s, the glory years of the sport. And back then games were just over 2 hours, they didn't shift, batters didn't step out and adjust gloves after every pitch and the game featured base hits, hit and runs, stolen bases, squeeze plays and was not just a home run or strikeout contest. As a compromise I would like to see the 8th and 9th innings have progressively longer pitch times if the game is close, but overall I think these rules will bring back something closer to classic baseball.
Dude I haven't even liked baseball since the 2nd grade and yet I'm still invested in this channel.
More hits, more stolen bases, more runs scored..... This will impact pitchers records quite a bit. I'm definitely not a fan of these new rules
Thats how it was for over 100 years of baseball history - more hits, hit and runs, bunts, stolen bases and far less pitching changes. So in a way it will make records more like they used to be.
It's kind of amazing to me the answer to the shift isn't just getting better at batting, idk. Obviously harder than it seems, just goes to show insane these pitchers are too.
Well they could always bunt against the shift, but I don’t know if you’ve ever had to square up a bunt coming from a pitcher only 60’ away, but that shits scary at the upper HS level, let alone what these guys are seeing. And bunting against these pitchers may increase injuries in players Ill prepared to do it. Plus, do you want your $25m/yr player bunting every AB. It just feels like a crappy work around, and that would be boring to watch too.
@@bluecollarboys6294A baseball team should be in the business of winning by whatever means works best and who cares if it’s “entertaining” or not?
It's because pitchers actually induce those outcomes by locating and pitch selection, it's not just hitters not being good enough, it's pitching quite frankly being oppressive
Agreed.... Would have loved to see Barry Bonds learn to hit to the opposite field and mic-drop the bat.
Americans don't hit for contact. They hit to score. International baseball doesn't have this problem
MLB missed the most important step, they should make umpires sit for a press conference and be confronted by the press and they need to explain questionable rulings. At the same time, do a Angel Hernandez tent in the press room, so if an umpire got too embarrassed by the questions, they can go hide in the tent and no more questions will be asked, but that umpire will also be suspended for a month, alternatively, that said umpire can retire on the spot and have full benefits.
I'll disagree hard, I don't think ANYONE on a team should be required to talk to the press as part of the job. When that's been done in other sports, it's ended horribly. Don't want to talk to the press? Shouldn't have to.
Not sure about the Press but stiffer penalties for bad calls be nice. That an umpire can have a 66% or less accuracy and still be a Umpire is a joke. Way too much job security in that no matter how bad your calls or how much your emotions dictate who you call on.
@@ianwestcpeople like you don't like accountability apparently...
@@bobsbuurgers3714 Ah yes, so if someone doesn't play at their top level, it's not only out there, but then they are required to partake in additional public humiliation afterwards. Yes, this sounds like a wonderful system!
Saving baseball? Okay lol
All of this just to add more commercials.
The new rules are great. I don’t have to change the channel between pitches anymore, I love it.
Lol this.
umm no kid, the new rules are garbage, period
@@jameswilliams-zr8co not period there good in every way. Some tweaking will probably have to be done. But stuff has to change you have to at least try something new or else you’ll never know what will work. Baseball needed some changes for a long time now so this is good.
@Megabaron it's realy not good for the game its garbage anybody who likes the new rules have 0 attention span
@@jameswilliams-zr8cothe old rule
Was 12 seconds to release the ball. They just stopped enforcing it. It’s now 15 seconds to start windup. That adds like 5 seconds to the old rule. They just started enforcing it, which was desperately needed
I followed baseball semi-seriously 8 or so years ago but for some reason I stopped watching sports altogether for a couple of years.
One of my coworkers who’s a baseball nut started telling me earlier this year about all the new rules that I missed, then he told me about Ohtani and I figured I should see for myself what’s up with all that. We caught a game during our shift and I fell in love with the sport again. It just felt like great timing to get back into the sport.
I don’t care what oldhead purists say, the pitch clock and extra innings rule are one of the most seamless, simple yet dynamic rules changes they could’ve brought to modernize the game.
This year I’ve watched more hours of baseball than any other form of content aside from youtube. All of that is in great part thanks to the new dynamic rules that were added.
Shift bans are honestly ridiculous. If you have a significant weakness somewhere as a hitter, the defending team should be able to punish that.
Think about the physics of a swing for a bit. It's less about your "weakness" as a hitter and more about how the game works conceptually. You wouldn't call it a weakness of the hitter that gravity affects the ball, so why would the concept of angular momentum be a personal failing for the batter?
I agree in theory. In practice I care more about creating a more exciting game. I (and I'm assuming I'm not alone on this) don't watch baseball because it's so dull. If they can fix that I say let them. It's like when the NBA got rid of hack a Shaq. Yes if you have a bad FT shooter you should be at a disadvantage but nobody wants to watch 60 FTs in a game
Pitch Clock, don’t mind it
The Shift Ban, don’t mind it
Base size, don’t mind it
This being said, nothing can save baseball until they figure out how to broadcast their games. It is maddening being told I’m out of range for an Atlanta Braves broadcast from Athens a Georgia, an hour’s drive away.
Wdym? I love not being able to watch The Blue Jays because some rando AL team doesn't like the fact that a Canadian wants to watch an away game. That and going to Toronto for a game is doubly expensive cuz I have to actually drive there (please bring back a Montreal franchise)
There are plenty of free streams on the interwebs. Their loss
They need to get rid of the strike zone on the broadcasts, 1 we know what a strike looks like. 2 everyone in the world except the ump knows that wasn't a stike.
These rules will not bring one person in to watching baseball that didn't watch it before the rules were changed.
Baseball has fewer fans per population than it has in its entire history. Young kids simply find it boring. Even if the new rules don't bring in any more new fans, it will probably reduce the shedding of existing fans. I stopped watching years ago. I may watch a few this year.
It definitely shouldn’t be deciding the end of a game. I understand speeding up the game but there should be limits to that b/s at the height of the game.
I mean, a violation only ended a spring training game once. The players are finally getting used to the rule changes.
If you change the rules in the 9th inning, you're just asking the batter to ice the pitcher repeatedly.
i love baseball, and have always loved watching games no matter the time but getting people to agree to watch it with you or let you finish a game has always been a hassle and i understand the other side 100% the game is long and monotonous and the season is even longer to people who are casual or dont care about baseball… these 2 and half hour games are great… more buddies have been willing to sit down and watch the game… the shift rule opened up offense… and the game has honestly flowed so much better with less just “readjusting” or “settling” the players used to take their time doing. I don’t think the game needs to be any quicker than this and it just keeps up action for more of the viewing time. Its honestly felt like a win-win for fans hardcore and casual
The wbc was a 2 week tournament where there is no pitch clock, bigger bases, pitch/hitter violations, pick off restrictions, or other bullshit rules. The way I see it, it shows that the mlb and the mlb/American fans need to do better. If the average Mexican or Japanese audience can care about a full baseball season and putting their energy into every single second, y’all can too.
Well to be fair. Japan's season is much shorter at 144 games, not the 162 of MLB.
Their leagues will likely adopt these rules too, or at least a variation of it. The next WBC will be using these new rules, so if other leagues want their players to be ready for it then presumably make the switch to this.
@@supersasukemaniac Wow, they saved 18 games. What a difference. But not as amazing as saving 20 minutes with these new rules.
@@THEOsu-bu1sy That literally makes no sense. Bringing in rules so they can be ready for a tournament that happens every 3/4 years?? 🤦♂️
@@idkbro8470 Well that’s what’s happening. If Japan, DR and the whole rest of the world don’t want their players to be left behind then adopt the new rules
I hate the new rules, they are making baseball not fun, and I hate that they make games faster, I love long games
no shift, no look at me every pitch while I play with my gloves, no throw again there or countless pitcher changes. MLB getting it right.
I hope those steal stats hold true. I am a fan of the stolen base and am excited to see it increase!
It's not... it's getting artificially inflated and you can never compare these new stats with true stats.
@@OnesUponaGame exactly. Although, let's be honest. Ain't nobody, even if the rules are artificially inflated, is catching Ricky Henderson.
It will increase artificially and won't mean as much. Is it exciting for a guy to be awarded a sb when the pitcher attempted a third pickoff that didn't get him?
@x jr. there's still the catcher. And pitch outs. Not sure if I'd count a boost in steals as "artificial" in this era since it's already been choked down so much. I just want to see teams run more.
@@MrHobo71 Isn’t a third pickoff move that doesn’t result in an out considered a balk rather than a stolen base?
Watches baseball all day yesterday. It was amazing. More stolen bases more hits. More runs. Action every AB. I could mess with a post 7th inning clock increase in close games. Like within 3 runs
Or turn it off in the 9th in save situations
I used to really enjoy watching mlb and learning how the strategies work. With all these changes there is no more strategies. If everyone is so worried about the pace of the game, then don’t watch it. If players have the same issue, then find a different job. I’m sure real baseball fans would be fine with the regular pace of the game. If the league makes one more ridiculous rule change, I’m not going to waste my time watching another game live or on tv. There’s always going to be a loophole no matter what rules they add. Therefore the league should focus on important matters of the game and not making adjustments where it’s not needed.
How could the commissioner of baseball have a comment in a 1909 article about game length when the first commissioner wasn’t appointed until 1920.
Oh yeah so much fun to watch commercials so quickly every inning! Thank you so much!
Youd rather watch them strap their batting gloves over and over.... wild.
Im usually a hockey football basketball guy and It has perked my interest to watch games. Going to spring training games and dbacks games growing up, my biggest gripe was always how slow the game moved.
Yeap. Can you imagine if basketball have no shot clock or timer to hike the ball in football?
Ngl the coyotes have done well this season
Yea I missed alot of plays last year because I got tired of staring at a pitcher breathe just for him to pitch as soon as I look away
Well, all of you should go watch a different sport then instead of encouraging them to destroy ours. Men's field hockey and competitive softball move pretty fast, maybe you'd like them?
@@booradley6832 Exactly.
That one sentence pretty much sums up this year's MLB rule changes;
"It's working and I hate it"
Advertising betting is pure scumbaggery.
Only complaint I heard today from visitors to Oracle Stadium was that they went to get a beer and missed a bunch of action because it moves so quick.
Vendors and concession stands were not taken into account when speeding up the game. The game was sped up for tv (which most can't even see because of blackout rules), but the speed of the game takes away from the in the stadium experience. In my opinion.
Welcome to sports buddy. Baseball games are boring as fuck. And that’s why the MLB is making changes
@@yougotbaited2943 if you think they were boring then you very obviously have no clue about the game or what's going on
@@malfunkshin873 There is absolutely nothing exciting about a hitter that steps out of the box, unvelcros his batting gloves, adjusts his fingers in them, revelcros his batting gloves, readjusts the stickum on his bat, taps the bat to his helmet, steps into the box, scuffs the ground, and taps the ground a few times with the bat, and then is ready for the pitch. And then he does that, without fail, after EVERY pitch. There's absolutely nothing exciting about a pitcher who waits 30 seconds doing nothing, nothing at all, before a pitch because he wants to bore the hitter, throw off his timing, and "slow the game down" so he can be in control. Nothing exciting about that at all.
I've been a baseball traditionalist and I have hated new rules like the DH, the ghost runner, the juiced balls, maybe even the bigger bases. But the pitch clock is a wonderful, wonderful change. Games had gotten slower and slower over time. It's about time they made this change.
I think the MLB will see a big uptick in injuries to pitchers this year
Even if all of the rules are good once owners see how much money they’re losing from concession stands sales due to the decrease in game time and when the pitch clock costs a team the game they will want it scrapped
We will see more off speed pitches, which will be a good thing
@@Nick_Simpson007 Concession sales are the least of their worries, considering they were losing ticket sales in general before this change.
@@Kyle_116this is not going to raise attendance numbers. The league is stupid
@@Nick_Simpson007 It's not gonna make the time between innings any shorter
Baseball is so under rated. Its 1000x better than football. Nothing beats the walk off home run!
These rules didn’t need to be added. I’m not a fan of them at all. You want to bring up fan engagement, make it affordable to go to games again. Allow people to buy your streaming service and watch in market games.
This is the first year that I have felt inclined to watch baseball in years. Everyone is getting up in arms right now but like no shit there will be loopholes and a lot of violations at the start of the season as people get used to the rules. People really need to give it some time because I think this will make baseball so much better.
This has turned baseball into chaos which it isn’t. This is a terrible rule and I’ve watched half of one game because it’s not the baseball I love and don’t plan to watch again this season. This isn’t a good thing for mlb
i like the rules. Have watch 4 games to start the season and don't even notice the pitch clock. The game just flows so much nicer and the amount of action is so much more fun to watch so far. Granted its been 4 games but i can see how this will only grow to become unnoticeable to the fans.
@@BlueInOrangeAgain i don't see how it's stressful to watch. I love baseball but watching some of the playoff games last year just felt like a chore until the 7th inning on. And trying to watch regular season games was almost impossible.
@@dustinbrown7248 MLB is dying, and this will bring in more fans. No one wants to watch 3 hours of hitters playing with their gloves, and pitchers doing a PEEPEE dance lol
@@BlueInOrangeAgain it’s not supposed to be relaxing it’s supposed to be entertaining
Commercial breaks HAVE to be factored in as well. There's a drastic and direct correlation between the increase in game length and commercials. And I'm THRILLED that the shift is more or less gone. I hated it.
They already cut down commercial breaks. A clock immediately starts when the inning ends at 2:40. 99 percent of the time the inning starts on that time.
The shift isn't gone though
@@RobotReg he said more or less gone. Like extreme shifts are banned.
Yeah, it's all about the money. The greedy owners aren't going to say that, though
Hate the shift ban.
Just make the game 5 innings... and 62 game regular season (with each team playing each other twice), with single elimination play offs and relegate bottom 4 teams to minor leagues. Keep the luxury tax so there isn't too large of a disparity between teams finance's.
I've watched a few games already this year after not having watched regular season in probably ten years. So refreshing the amount of contact and action happening in the games. I don't understand the baseball purists who just want to see guys stand around all day long. You still get long games in this system, just only when there's a lot of offense prolonging innings -- not pitchers just taking forever to deliver the pitch.
thats really it. a lot of people like low scoring games, especially when a pitcher is playing well. plus more action and offense will just destroy small market teams like my rays. probably not this year or next but in a few years definitely.
@@botboi4334 this doesnt destroy pitching though lol. It just makes them deliver the pitch. High end pitchers will still be incredibly difficult to hit.
@@nicklazzaro5055 generally speaking yes. however their stamina will likely be lower than usual because they are having to throw pitches so quickly
@@botboi4334 Have ya watched baseball the past 20 years at all? Pitchers go through the lineup twice unless theyre an ace and its over... 6 innings is like a rarity now. What stamina?!
@@botboi4334 Between 1890 and 1980 the average games were along the lines of 2 1/2 hours long. If you go back and watch old games, the pitchers threw pitches on average in around 15 seconds, maybe 20 seconds if the count went deep or after a foul ball. And there were more complete games back then, so I don't think stamina was a problem. Also, batters did not step out nearly as often or for as long. There was no shift. There was more action in the form of hit and runs, bunts, stolen bases and more run scoring rallies, not just homeruns or strikeouts. I would think that type of "small ball" would help small market teams - you don't need the high priced hitters, just guys who can get base hits and know how to manufacture runs the old fashioned way.
Wouldn’t all these things that increase offense in turn make the games longer again.
Common sense has entered the chat.
I though the same was going to happen but after the first three weeks of the season the average time has decreased a lot, I hate the shift banning though
i personally love long games.. the longer im in a stadium the better
Absolutely. I'm not going to all the trouble (travel), time, and expense of going to a game that is intentionally shortened. That's BS!
The players waste time scratching the balls. I don’t want to watch that. Same with all the rituals. I don’t want to watch that either.
I think all of the rule changes are great, except for one. I think banning the shift is ridiculous and stupid. It's a defensive adjustment to an offensive meta that prioritizes power, pull hitting. You wanna stop the shift? Be better at directional hitting. Send a slow grounder through the infield gap and turn it into a double. Do that over and over, and the problem will be solved.
A certain Ted Williams would hit .500 because of all the shifting. It's really more about not trying to get players to change their approach. The hitters won't do it, so MLB helicopter parented in and saved them from the big bad defensive shift.
@@PAGoTribe1963 David Ortiz’s comment about the fines related to pitch clock rules sums that up perfectly.
The first year is always tough when changing things - especially this drastic. I'm in favor of the rule changes though admit they need a little tweaking (as anything does in it's first year)
Well, a serve in Tennis is now on a clock and a player has only 30 seconds to
1- Move to the other side of the baseline
2- Towel off if needed
3- Collect 2 balls from ballboy
4- execute ball contact on a serve
and they can do this easily almost every time. WHILE TOTALLY OUT OF BREATH. Many matches can be played without a violation on that.
All they're asking for in baseball is for the moron to throw the ball....THATS ALL. No Towels, no ballboy, no other pitcher mound to move to....... just THROW THE DAMN THING ALREADY.
It should be called the 'Stop fucking around rule", since 30 seconds is only really a problem if someone is fucking around. It is meant to stop the endless waste of time due to modern baseball gamesmanship. The core of the game is getting lost in technical cheats. This rule will likely stop a lot of it.
Do you like cricket?
No.
What if I told you they just made the games 20 minutes shorter?
Well *NOW* it sounds like a sport I'll love!
Do people not realize how insane this logic is???
I could not agree with you more, like all these people who won’t watch a 3 hour game are going to love 2:45 one. 15-20 min difference, just hilarious.
No they don't. They will just parrot the same comment over and over and think baseball is getting better.
I hate banning the shift. It's the player's job to adjust how teams defend him not the other way around!
it's almost september and to recap:
NO ONE is talking about the pitch clock anymore.
NO ONE EVER talked about the shift rule.
Baseball is watchable to the casual fan again... but I still can't watch without a subscription service.
Gymnastics did a similar thing with time clocks.
I've enjoyed the changes so far. I think a faster game with more regular action is good. I think these changes will mature well when the summer gets here.
I noticed a pleasing change in feel after one game. All they did was address players and their egos and rituals, ffs catch and throw. Once you're conscious that there's a clock you just get in a new rhythm and never think about it, and suddenly you realize that you dont need even the 15 seconds which are alloted. No player in history was who he was statistically because he was allowed to adjust his f'ing helmet for no reason and wave the bat with one hand several times before setting up to hit. That's all horse **** that no one pays to see. It's clear that we don't need all this idle time. It's so nice to force it out for good.
I'm probably in the minority, but I never minded the length of the game. Going to the ballpark was always a half day event. From getting there early and being with the home town community. Even in the new ballpark (Citi), it's not "home", per sey, but the people are still the same. And I've always been and the defensive side of things... the NL side... strategy and good plays. That's what makes it fun, not dominating pitching or hitting.
Same here
It’s really not so much the length of the game, as it is all the dead time.
Watching ten pickoff attempts, batters doing their stupid glove pulling routines, pitchers asking for 4 new balls for no reason, it’s all an aggravating time waste.
The rules seem to allow for more densely action packed and entertaining games. It may turn out to be a great move by mlb.
Same here. Do ppl not appreciate the mental chess matches between pitchers and hitters in big at bats? The tension and build up as everything seems to stand still as the pitchers comes set has always been one of my favorite parts. I hate the base stealing associated rules. Rip knuckle ballers, it's going to just be too punitive to uncork a wild pitch since there be a guy in scoring position much more often.
@@reggiejenkins6458 Spot on
@@baddudecornpop7328 There’s no tension or mental chess match (hell, competitive chess is better and faster) it’s just a long, boring, and shit sport. Maybe the new rules will make it better
They can speed up games by eliminating the commercial time outs. That's the only way, without ruining the game even more than they have already. We all know that won't happen.