I can't believe that was quite common those days to invite people into a dynamic plane's cockpit let alone the captain seat..that is beyond carelessness
@@KhushiSingh-xx8zr the only time I see it slightly okay is when the plane is properly stopped and no one is aboard the plane other than a pilot But then again thats my opinion
How sad though, they surely paid the ultimate price. I have no doubt that the pilot didn't have any intention on hurting anyone. & the young man had no clue what he was doing with the controls. R. I. P. To everyone involved 🙏 💚
@@andrezcolon6353 yeah because I see so many other comments that are blaming the kid for the cost of the accident and I'm like they're just kids they didn't know any better the pilots should have known a lot better. The pilots had years of experience so they should be very aware of when they put kids in the cockpit so this right here was just a recipe for disaster. May everyone who died in that plane crash rest in peace
@@AshishGupta-mh3hn yes I'm aware he was a teen but in my eyes he was a kid. He wasn't even 18 so if you would have been 18 then okay he wouldn't have been a kid anymore
@@josephmendoza9523 its not about being 16 or 18. it is about a quick decision he could have made by moving out of the seat right away. it is the missing presence of mind, which played an equal role in costing the lives on board. I am not fully blaming the teen. but he plays a big role
@@rispil7086 There was no alarm when the kid, Eldar partially disengaged the auto pilot, but a light came on indicating to the flight crew it was disengaged.
And the captain should have taken control back the INSTANT he was told the plane was turning. No judgment, though. I wasn't in that situation. My heart breaks for everyone affected. 😢
@@rispil7086 It wasn't the flaw. Ability to partially disengagement has its reasons and there WAS the light signal which the pilots should see if they do their job and sit in their places. Airbus constructors probably didn't imagine that Russian pilots would allow 15 year old kids to play with their planes while they chill in the background.
@@goforthjr He had let the kid sit there with his hands all over the controls for 4-minutes. Not a few seconds. FOUR freaking minutes. That's insane and negligent. When the plane went out of control, the kid was pinned into the seat with the rest of them having to watch from behind, so there was no mistake that putting the kid there had killed them too. The captain at least realized the idiocy of his own actions.
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Sad to believe that this is one of the most preventable accidents that happened.
What was most frustrating to me as I watched was the pilot not getting back on his seat right away at the first mention of a snag. I think that should have been the immediate reflex. Watching him remain upstanding until it had become impossible for the better part of the catastrophic confusion was the most incomprehensible thing for me!!
in hindsight we can easily say that....if you were in the cockpit and you watched the pilot, an expert, flicking a button and saying it was all good, you would accept that
@@johnlove6194That makes absolutely no sense. That would be like saying you blame the school teacher of someone who becomes a criminal. Who decided to let a teenager fly an airplane? 🤔
The fact that all they had to do was “let go,” it’s devastatingly ironic for all of the victims, but sort of a poetically philosophical parable for us.
@TruthIsPower Any thinking person would NOT allow their 15 y/o to FLY the plane! The captain's an idiot. They don't pass out brains when you have kids. His kids were clearly brats who never heard the word "NO!" Who needs to be told to NOT allow their brats to FLY the airplane or allow them in the cockpit after the plane starts taking off! Now all these people are DEAD!
The pilots are flying a plane that has new features, but were not made aware of, and not given training on it. The kid happened to trigger the partial disengaging of the autopilot. But due to lack of knowledge of the pilots, it leads to confusion, and later to the crash.
It’s absolutely correct that it’s the Captain’s fault. He had no business letting a child sit in his seat and touch the instruments while the plane was in flight and full of passengers. Period. He compounded his mistake by not monitoring the status of the plane while his son was playing with the instruments. The emergency would not have happened if he had not foolishly done this.
@@HappySharksAre you saying you need training or a manual to tell you not to let a teenager fly an airplane? Some things are a given and this is one of them
Unbelievable. How a pilot could put a kid in the drivers seat is beyond me. Even though they found other reasons which seem to try soften the blow, it is unacceptable. Not the kids fault at all, they should have never been put there. It was pilot error, it was the fathers fault. Pride cometh before a fall. Literally.
Excellent! I’ve always been interested in this crash and why/how a child was in the pilot’s seat. Now I understand and feel so much empathy for all on board.
I hate flying and never do it now. But in the old days I remember how people were pretty free to come and go from the cockpit. I didn’t really think at that time about why but it really bothered. I was quite young so I put it down to my fear of flying. Until much later of course…..
this is the most anxiety-inducing recreation of one of these i've seen, jesus also that other mom showed a lot of grace leaving it at "i don't believe kids should be in the cockpit"
I already saw this episode not watching it again. Nobody other than the pilots should be allowed in the cockpit plain and simple. You want to show your kid he sits in the jump seat if the cockpit has one or stands behind. Better yet, bring him on your training days and let him use one of the pilot simulators.
I was thinking the same thing. All the First officer Had to do was let go of his side stick and the planes automatic self-preservation system would’ve kicked in.
@@christainmarks106 look it up....i thought the same thing, apparently some airbus planes had a yoke. at first i thought it was a crappy documentary, that they assumed all planes had a yoke....
Its also important to point out that the lack of training to realize that you can accidently disconnect the autopilot with no warning shouldnt be overlooked.
There was a warning. There was a red light illuminated, but the pilot was too busy showing off at the expense of 100 lives. Had he been in his seat, he’d have noticed.
I just watched this on Mentour Pilot and was glad that I found it here on Mayday. Even though the story is told very well with all of the technical details on Mentour. Mayday always gives a good reenactment of the events as they happened. Watching this story unfold I am in absolute shock that the captain on board not only invited his children into the cockpit but he let them sit in the captains seat with their inexperienced hands on the controls! Never mind the helpless souls aboard that flight, he wants to let his children play! Unbelievable!
Mayday is good for the reenactment as a first exposure, then watching mentour afterwards gives you better technical insight and more fleshed out explanations into exactly what happened.
The captain is absolutely to blame 100%. hundreds of lives depended on the captain and he did the most irresponsible thing he could do, putting a child at the controls.
To be fair, those didn't really exist in an affordable form back then. HOWEVER! That doesn't excuse the captains stupidity of putting innocent lives at risk just to make his kid happy.
@@abdulsami7737 Yes it did, the first flight simulator (digital) was made in 1982. An actual full scale flight simulator was made in the 1970's but was considered a "gimmick" by many in the flight industry up until 1993. Its why I mentioned that they weren't very affordable.
@Ricky Anthony It sounds horrible, not just weird. He makes it sound like popping out babies is easy to do and requires no commitment or love. As a mother I would never forget the ones that I do have. Two are fully grown men now and I will always cherish the memories that I had in raising them and the time spent together. I certainly would never think about just starting over after all I had been through with my children from birth to swimming lessons, teaching to ride bikes, bbq's, days out together etc... It would take someone exceptional to even make me want to have another child if I were to lose my whole family. There is nothing wrong with the memories of the past as I am sure they are good memories and I certainly would not want to forget those valuable times. Living without your children or spouse will happen regardless it is just a matter of when and how. A spuse will age and can pass on before you etc... You just do not go on like they never existed. It is a fact of life. when my two eldest boys moved out the place felt empty and yes I had to go on day by day. Like everything I am sure it gets easier even with death, but it is never forgotten. The key is keep busy and do things you like to do. Not to start over like we are pieces of meat with no value.
@@ginnysnyder9703 I was thinking along that line too. It is also mentioned in the video that "in 1994 there are a series of crashes . . . " We should stop blaming the dead, and let them rest in peace.
Not a training issue. They had kids in the seat of an aircraft who have no business being at the controls. Would you allow your young kids to drive your car on a highway without any training.
@@007donj I would say it is a familiarization issue. Yes, it is wrong to put a child in the seat of an aircraft. But that kind of accident is bound to happen because the plane has features that pilots have to be familiar with. It is tantamount to letting a driver of a automatic transmission car drive a manual transmission car.
I love this series. *This is probably the most avoidable and morally irresponsible air disaster in aviation history* 😡 Such tragic consequences for many innocent people 😢
@@greggstrasser5791 NO! The captain shouldn't have let either kid sit in the seat in the first place and so much for the whimpy co-pilot who didn't speak up say "OH NO YOU DON"T"!
All those poor families who suffered such loss! But the wife who lost her husband and children…how she must suffer with such mixed pain for the loss of her family but also for the guilt that it was her husbands mistake for allowing the children into his chair as captain and also her children’s involvement. That poor precious woman…she must feel the weight of the loss of every deceased person from that flight! May God grant her Peace and peace to every family member who lost loved ones!
Mentour Pilot just did this one too - pretty amazing that this could happen. Why would they not immediately get the kid out of the seat as soon as there was any kind of anomaly? There was enough time before the G's kicked in.
@@pdog547 The kid should have gotten out of the seat the moment they sensed the danger. Unfortunately the kid is still sitting in the seat and watching the killing of all the passengers.
When the boy told his father that aircraft is turning right initially and i think at that point he must have taken control of that aircraft and sat on his seat and i think the situation would be completely different.He instead let the boy to fly the plane waste previous seconds
Uh oh. I see the momma giving an interview and talking on behalf of her husband and children.... NEVER a good sign when watching mayday. Thank goodness for this show otherwise we would never have heard anything about almost 90% of these accidents. May the victims and their families all find peace but I think I speak for us all when I say WE don't watch their stories unfold without the upmost respect. God bless them all .
One major aspect of the incident that I think was sorely missed by this portrayal is that the first officer had major difficulties trying to regain control because he had extended and reclined his seat so far back he could barely reach the controls. He'd configured it this way when he gave control over the the other pilot to relax, as in normal circumstances he'd have a reasonable time frame to readjust his seat if he needed to take back control. When the plane suddenly entered the spiral, adjusting his seat became nearly impossible when he was the only certified person with hands on the column and trying to wrangle the aircraft back into stability.
Put the blame to the father. They failed, so it turned into a warning that never let anyone who doesn't have any knowledge to fly sit on the pilot''s seat and let him fly the plane. The worst move he ever did
Thank you. I have seen this before, but NOW. TODAY I understand more details of this accident. Somehow this retelling was clearer and sharper than before. Thank you
Umm,, the pilot dad, nor his kid had anything to do w the plane crashing.. it was the co pilot who stalled the plane after they got the kid off of the flight controls, that led to them running out of airspace, which led to the crash
@@knosismercury It's a chain of events that lead to aviation accidents. This has been shown time after time after investigations have been conducted and concluded. If the Dad, the Capt wouldn't have allowed his children into the cockpit, and allowed his son to sit in the pilots seat, with his hands on the controls, this would've never happened. This is just one aspect of this crash that one could argue that was a catalyst that lead up to this accident. 😳
I hope Eldar and Yana were able to hold and comfort each other in their final moments like the show depicts. I can’t imagine the terror and guilt Eldar felt in his last moments on earth, thinking he was to blame.
@@sneksteppy it was his father and the other pilots who were at fault here.. they should’ve never allowed the children into the cockpit during the flight, let alone use the controls. They’re the ones with the responsibility and duty of care to the passengers.
@@rebeccamace1534his father told him to bank left …. But he froze …. Trust me I have been this teenager so confident when I convinced my dad to let me try driving in like a park ….. I speed and froze thankfully my dad was able to slam the breaks ….. sometimes kids have too much enthusiasm
@@luisfernando5998 true, but why didn’t they let the children see the cockpit before take off with no passengers? For me it’s the fact that this happened during a commercial flight with passengers on board if that makes sense ? I can relate to your driving experience, I remembered I was driving round a carpark/parking. It was empty. I panicked and put my foot on the accelerator and not the brake 😂😂 luckily my dad put the hand brake on in seconds lol
This is the most despicable story in all of the airplane documentaries and I have seen alot of them. To allow a kid to not only sit in the pilot's seat but to manipulate the controls is reprehensible. How arrogant of that father to have risked the lives of everyone onboard. Had they gotten that kid out of the pilot's seat before the g forces kicked in the outcome could have been different.
To be fair, the dad thought the autopilot was on and had no knowledge that it could partially disengage and neither of the crew knew that the system would not warn them. It was still irresponsible, though. Not arrogant, though, IMO.
All they had to do is have the kid release his hold on the yoke so the autopilot would regain control. Instead, they let him keep pulling on the yoke for a turn, which caused it to nose over into a dive. In his panic, he kept the plane in a corkscrew down to the ground.
Yes on the one hand you can say that but on the other, the pilot paid for that "arrogance" with his life.....and yes the lives of other people....but I think his own death is about as much as he can pay
As a child in the 80s, I was often allowed to go into the cockpit during the many flights I took with my parents. I of course was never allowed to sit in the pilot's seat.
I've mentioned in another video how irresponsible it was to have his kid sit at the controls while the pilot was distracted. What's worse is you'd think the second it was turning he'd say, "Okay yeah Eldar get out of my seat now let me check this out." But he doesn't. And then it's too late and Eldar can't anymore. Just plain stupidity. He had so many chances to save the plane and he blew though them all.
There's the fact that the copilot nearly recovered the plane, but messed up. He got the plane out of the turning dive, and pulled up to gain altitude, but he committed a novice error of pulling up too sharply for too long that the plane stalled and fell from the sky. When he got out of the dive, he should've climbed at the proper rate. When he loss climb speed, he should've decreased his climb angle. When he stalled the plane, he should've put the nose down to gain speed, level off, and then climb. He also could've let the plane recover by releasing the yoke. He had opportunities to save everyone, but failed.
When the plane banks that steeply, the pilot's most urgent priority is to level the plane. Why the heck do they spend 9 precious seconds looking at the plane heading?
The dad should have taken over and got back in the pilot seat as soon as the son asked why the plane was turning. He just continued to look on while the son remained in the pilots seat.
@freda jordan: The first officer failed 3 times: 1) He failed to monitor the flight instruments to see if the plane is deviating from plan. 2) He got the plane out of its corkscrew dive by countering the turn and pulling up, but he then committed a novice error by maintaining the climb long enough to stall the plane so it fell out of the sky. (Reminds me of Air France 447.) 3) He still could've recovered, but he lost situational awareness and got to the point of it being unrecoverable. He could've dropped down the nose to gain speed and control, level off to stabilize the stall recovery, and then climb at a proper rate. Bonus: Had he had known, he could've released the controls to let the flight systems save the plane from crashing.
This is giving me trust issues on a whole different level. So shocking someone who so many people trust with their lives can basically betray them so casually.
Regardless of the situation there, it should not have been possible to partially disengage autopilot like that. This accident was bound to happen sooner or later with a tired pilot or a pilot that got up from his seat the wrong way. The plane's engineering is 100% at fault here.
People sometimes do not take things seriously when they do a task too often. Car drivers are also supposed to focus on the road and surrounding all the time since there are lives at risk. Careless accidents happens frequently everywhere
@@jamesshepherd5805 umm, i guess u watched a different vid.. cos after the 1st dive,, & before the 1st captain took back controls from his kid.. the co pilot pulled the nose of the plane way too high @20:15 & @43:45, which is what stalled them for a 2nd time,, & which is what led to them crashing, after not having enough airspace to level out.. so again,, the co pilot is the reason they crashed 😉
The relief Captain, Kurdrinksky, or however you spell it, didn't actually let his son Eldar fly the plane. He made the mistake of letting his children sit in the pilot's seat, and put their hands on the control yoke. When Eldar was sitting in the pilot's seat, when he had his hands on the yoke, he tried turning it, and partially disengaged the auto pilot. They apparently weren't aware of this. The pilots couldn't figure out the problem of why the plane went into a bank, thinking the auto pilot was fully engaged. Of course, he never should've let them sit in the pilot's seat to begin with.
How can you not know your altitude and position at all times no matter what with that much experience?? May all those innocent passengers rest in peace
It's a fact in aviation, that when professional pilots, and even pilots in general, gain a certain amount of experience, alot of hours, they become more lax. I believe these pilots just let their guard down, thinking everything was OK because the plane was on auto pilot and due to their experience.
They did say he was 15...so not the best metaphor. Plenty of 15 year olds drive with a permit (supervised). But you have credentials: this is more like...letting a kid fly a damn jet plane. No comparison needed...it speaks for itself.
Nothing would have happened if the autopilot gave a warning when it partially disconnected. Period. Nothing would have happened if g forces didn't pin everyone down. Period. Nothing would have happened if Eldar didn't turn as forcefully. Period. You can't pin the blame of an accident on a single thing, except in extremely unusual circumstances, which this was not one of.
@@Owen_loves_Butters Sure you can, the boy started everything. Without that, we wouldn't have to speak about all the other points. And no, it wasn't his fault, but his father's.... a fault for which so many innocent people had to die.
@@Owen_loves_Butters No, you can't. The kid was the first link in this horror situation. If he wasn't there (at the invitation of the father) and started all of it, the plane would land safely. There is always a catalyst. In this case it was them playing pilot... It's the same as in a shooting situation. Just because the first responders and doctors can't save a victim, it doesn't mean it is their fault a they die... They might contribute to the tragedy, but are not the ones at fault for it.
He's not a bad father, he knows nothing will happen if its autopilot.. He didn't notice that his son make a mistake, it shows how he loved his children, bad father wouldn't act that way...
@@tzshchsjsjxijyo not really, maybe he just show off to his Kids... Just like us, me? I always wanted to show off to my parents how will i studied and maintained my Scholarship.. Show off,, not being boastful, just proud of the Achievements, that's how i see it. He's just overwelmed without having that idea that would be their last moment..
The new airport in HK was not opened til 1998. I myself took the Aeroflot London - Moscow - HK flight in early 1995 and we landed in the old Kai Tak airport. A few months later, I flew back to London from Kai Tak and spent a few days in Moscow on way back. Most exotic trip of my life at the time, will never forget. The legs between London and Moscow featured old Russian made planes with some luggage packed in the back of the cabin, seat backs that would collapse upon landing if they were empty, and plenty of vodka drinking (and even cigarette smoking if I remember right).
...I remember the days when you could still smoke on airplanes, they even had a smoking and non smoking areas....on an airplane.....a kid in the pilot seat, not a good idea....
The FO should have been watching the instruments. This happens every day. First time my uncle took me up in his 172, he let me fly & I low-key would pull back to go higher. He kept an eye on the altimeter.
@@greggstrasser5791 Once the pilot noticed the first sign of trouble, he should've taken over the controls, not the kid. I would not have put a 15 year old kid through that. I can't even imagine the terror and the horror he must've been enduring. I'm just speechless right now.
Having the kid at the control column was irresponsible, but not catastrophic. The main problems were neither pilot focusing on the adi, and the plane having no indication of a partial autopilot disconnection.
Comments say: The boy is not at fault. Reality of it is: If the captain had not had his kids in the cockpit behind the wheel, there would not have been any bad situation. The fault lies in the captain allowing the boy to sit behind the wheel with all those people's lives at stake. Bottom line: had the boy never been allowed to put his hands on the wheel, there would have been no problems during the flight.
I know that boy was learning how to fly. It was the captain what cause the crash. Yes because it would have been easier if the kids were not in the controls.
@@andrezcolon6353: No, the kid wasn't learning to fly. He was allowed to play with the yoke, and the cockpit crew assumed that the autopilot is going to ignore his inputs to the yoke. They didn't know that the autopilot can disengage partially and actually turn the plane. [After the autopilot allowed the the turn, the kid kept it in a turn until it lost lift, and rolled over into a dive. The crew didn't tell the kid to release his hold on the yoke, so he held it in the turning dive; that input conflicted with the co-pilot's inputs when he finally could grab his own yoke. Thus, the crew failed again to establish control of the plane, allowing the kid to nullify the co-pilot's actions. When the co-pilot recovered from the dive, he messed up by pitching the plane up in a steep climb until it stalled, and fell from the sky again. This time, they were too low to recover. The crew didn't fully understand how key parts of the plane behave, and made a series of errors that crashed the plane. When the plane initially fell from the sky, all they had to do was have the kid release his hold of the yoke, and then re-engage the autopilot. The plane would've recovered by itself.]
Yana was the only one directly involved in this situation with any sense at all of the gravity of being near the controls of the plane-- too bad her wariness proved to be warranted ):
Captain is solely responsible for this tragic accident. How could he allow his anxiously excited childrens to handle the controls which is very unprofessional. Being piloting passenger's plane he should hv been cautious about undesired eventuality. I guess his confidence as veteran pilot got the better if him. What a sad chain of events.
The pilot was definitely responsible for letting his children in the cockpit and then letting his son actually try to,fly it. But then the Russians tried,to,blame a non-Russian built plane for the accident. Typical of the Russian government blaming other country’s products - as if Russian-built things are perfect. Remember their first rockets, their cars and their airplanes - always problems and shoddy work. Plus the pilots didn’t have the basics of training in this new plane. The people who run the country just are not able to ever admit their mistakes.
44:30 *WOW!* I think that having a safety feature that requires you to *do nothing* is VERY against-instinct. Like... imagine being in a car that's spinning out of control and the solution is to let go of the wheel. No matter how you think of it, it feels like you're letting go of the very thing that could save you.
A lot of times letting go of the wheel when your car is spinning is the best solution. Usually drivers make things worse when they try to incorrectly turn the wheel.
Also both pilots had been experienced pilots with the captain having over 900 hrs on the A310 he should’ve known the aircraft inside and out. Of course the company is at fault also for their failure to properly train and take safety more seriously. When a child “running” through the first class can get you fired but having a child in the captains seat with hands on controls captain felt it wouldn’t get him in trouble.
Secret emergency safety features are easily the most dangerous aspects of plane design. They're implicated in dozens of the most deadly plane crashes. Nobody trains the pilots on what they changed and assume that the machine will handle everything. The machine never does.
Having the kid at the control column was irresponsible, but not catastrophic. The main problems were neither pilot focusing on the adi, and the plane having no indication of a partial autopilot disconnection. Also, a lot of people in the comments seem to think that the pilot "put hundreds of lives in the hands of a child". The autopilot was engaged. It was flying the plane. Eldar had no actual control until the autopilot disconnected its lateral movement. The pilot had no idea. He thought the autopilot was still in control, that's why he was confused about why the plane was turning. There was also a clear deficiency in the upset recovery training these pilots received.
Well if HE would have never had the kid in there showing off,MANY LIVES WOULDN'T BE GRAVEYARD DEAD..HAD YOU LOSS LOVE ONE'S IN THAT CRASH I BET YOU BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE
The cockpit crew did everything they could under the circumstances and it really wasn't their fault. But in the end the plane still crashed and killed everyone. This would not have happened if the kids were not allowed in there in the first place. So regardless of blame, a major safety rule was breached. In that sense, it was gross negligence by every adult in the cockpit. There is no excuse to allow any kind of distraction while the plane is flying.
@@mrslcom If they had all stayed in bed, this wouldn’t have happened. You do realize unlicensed kids are behind yokes EVERY DAY, right? It’s a non-sequitor.
Eldar though was responsible for the partial disconnection of the auto pilot. He moved, hit the yoke with enough force to cause this. If the pilot would've never had his son in the pilot seat, then this couldn't have happened.
Children in the cockpit? How dangerous is that.Three pilots couldn't prevent this avoidable accident? That itself is puzzling. Were they all in their senses?
Why was this family buried in a a special burning ground when they were the cause of a lot of people's lives what a slap in the face of all the passenger . My work had a special day for children to visit the workplace under special people doing the tour . Father had no right putting all the other passengers lives at risk.
They had a brand new plane which had controls setup differently than other planes in their fleet. No one but the manufacturer knew that the auto pilot controls could be partially disabled. So, no one knew the right action to take to get back to normal flight.
When the autopilot started to keep the turn going it should have been shut off and manually flown back to level. Then you can turn the autopilot back on and reset it!!!
Its sad to think the engineers are smart enough to design something as complex as an areoplane but dumb enough to forget an alarm on partial Auto pilot dissconnect .
I remember reading something about Airbus saying that the computers would prevent pilots from making any inputs which would crash the plane, so why would the computers allow a bank angle of 40 degrees, which was beyond its design limits ?
If you knew to let the plane make its own recovery by letting go of the controls, but that system was designed for upset recovery, meaning stall prevention, and recovery from steep dives, and upset banks, very steep banks. I never liked the design philosophy of the Airbus, because its redundant systems to prevent aircraft upset, just seem to over complicated things, and can make matters worse.
They show Eldar holding the yoke. An Airbus A310 doesn’t have a yoke…it has a side stick. Which actually raises a slight design flaw on the Airbus. On a side stick you’d be less likely to notice Eldar applying force to the left. On a traditional yoke (Boeing etc.) it’s centered and would be obvious. Not putting Airbus down, but the side stick does have its limitations. The Air France crash is another example.
I was completely surprised when I realised that they were in the air with all aboard, when the children were able to spend that time in the cockpit. On the ground sure and of course it's dad's job; it ought to have been an exciting glimpse prior to the take-off itself. To ever do that in the midst of an operating flight , blew me away.
When I was around 10yrs old I was put on a flight alone, and when they hit cruise I was taken to the cockpit. After a couple of minutes a pilot stood up, and asked whether I’d look after the plane while he went to the bathroom. I of course accepted. I just sat in the chair and looked around as the other pilot chatted with me. From what I’ve heard, this was way more common than people want to admit. Mine was around 92’
@@beckiehubley5798 Sometimes I feel bad for kids nowadays. There are experiences they won’t have. Cockpits, a proper orca show… the Karen’s have clearly won.
@@mikemck4796 lol “a proper orca show” To me, it’s more the stuff like going out to play with your friends and making sure to be home before dinner. 90s-early 00s kids were the last to have that in their lives en masse
This is just so sad and irresponsible on the part of the pilots 💔 to allow a child to not only sit in the pilots seat but to actually touch the controls while in flight is such a lapse in judgement. Why not wait til the plane is on the ground for them to sit in the pilot seat or allow them to only watch their father flying the plane?
Do you believe that the child was entirely to blame for this air disaster?
He had No blame at all.
Absolutely not.
yep 100% should be in jail
No. Thr adults who should have been piloting the plane ste to blame
No. The FO should have been watching the instruments.
How sad that they let a kid play around in the cockpit. The airline is a business and the passengers do not deserve such carelessness.
I can't believe that was quite common those days to invite people into a dynamic plane's cockpit let alone the captain seat..that is beyond carelessness
@@KhushiSingh-xx8zr the only time I see it slightly okay is when the plane is properly stopped and no one is aboard the plane other than a pilot
But then again thats my opinion
Your life is in their hands the moment you step on to the aircraft.
How sad though, they surely paid the ultimate price. I have no doubt that the pilot didn't have any intention on hurting anyone. & the young man had no clue what he was doing with the controls. R. I. P. To everyone involved 🙏 💚
@Llamp99* yet the kids are never in the cockpit without the permission of the idiot father.
The captain is the one to blame for this accident, not the kid. This is just heartbreaking, such a preventable accident
Yes the kid was trying to learn that is all.
@@andrezcolon6353 yeah because I see so many other comments that are blaming the kid for the cost of the accident and I'm like they're just kids they didn't know any better the pilots should have known a lot better. The pilots had years of experience so they should be very aware of when they put kids in the cockpit so this right here was just a recipe for disaster. May everyone who died in that plane crash rest in peace
@@josephmendoza9523 he was a teen - not a kid.
@@AshishGupta-mh3hn yes I'm aware he was a teen but in my eyes he was a kid. He wasn't even 18 so if you would have been 18 then okay he wouldn't have been a kid anymore
@@josephmendoza9523 its not about being 16 or 18. it is about a quick decision he could have made by moving out of the seat right away. it is the missing presence of mind, which played an equal role in costing the lives on board. I am not fully blaming the teen. but he plays a big role
No matter how many times I hear this story, it never ceases to piss me off how pointless these deaths were.
@veroe2407 it was a flaw in the system the autopilot never should have partly disengaged with no alert or signal to indicate it happened
@@rispil7086 There was no alarm when the kid, Eldar partially disengaged the auto pilot, but a light came on indicating to the flight crew it was disengaged.
And the captain should have taken control back the INSTANT he was told the plane was turning. No judgment, though. I wasn't in that situation. My heart breaks for everyone affected. 😢
@@rispil7086 It wasn't the flaw. Ability to partially disengagement has its reasons and there WAS the light signal which the pilots should see if they do their job and sit in their places. Airbus constructors probably didn't imagine that Russian pilots would allow 15 year old kids to play with their planes while they chill in the background.
@@goforthjr He had let the kid sit there with his hands all over the controls for 4-minutes. Not a few seconds. FOUR freaking minutes. That's insane and negligent. When the plane went out of control, the kid was pinned into the seat with the rest of them having to watch from behind, so there was no mistake that putting the kid there had killed them too. The captain at least realized the idiocy of his own actions.
Sad to believe that this is one of the most preventable accidents that happened.
Russians got money, new toys, mad!
Not only here, everywhere this was a weird time in RU, bad regulations, money enough
Yes! This and tenerife
@studio732jrl2 Not really. There are accidents that happen due to natural factors, I wouldn't call them preventable...
@studio732jrl2 you need a therapist, pal!
@@potocatepetl - NO...he doesn't!!
What was most frustrating to me as I watched was the pilot not getting back on his seat right away at the first mention of a snag. I think that should have been the immediate reflex. Watching him remain upstanding until it had become impossible for the better part of the catastrophic confusion was the most incomprehensible thing for me!!
I’m not sure he could because of the G-forces
@@alexsosa5727 Are ya kidding me!
I absolutely agree.
Nina Yes indeed he did have time to get back into his seat if he would have acted right away....
in hindsight we can easily say that....if you were in the cockpit and you watched the pilot, an expert, flicking a button and saying it was all good, you would accept that
I can't imagine what the wife of the pilot is feeling, knowing her husband's carelessness caused her to lose her family.
Whoever is responsible for teaching and training the pilots is responsible.
@@johnlove6194not at all the pilot was just an idiot. a true darwin award winner.
From her look tells She is proud of them 😂
@@oxymrn7038😂😂😂
@@johnlove6194That makes absolutely no sense. That would be like saying you blame the school teacher of someone who becomes a criminal. Who decided to let a teenager fly an airplane? 🤔
The fact that all they had to do was “let go,” it’s devastatingly ironic for all of the victims, but sort of a poetically philosophical parable for us.
Imagine trying to make sense of this crash without the cockpit voice recorder...it would've been truly baffling
The sheer Horror the Passengers went through is just chilling.
This wasn't a video game. This was an airplane full of innocent people who lost their lives because of the stupidity of the captain.
@TruthIsPower
Any thinking person would NOT allow their 15 y/o to FLY the plane! The captain's an idiot. They don't pass out brains when you have kids.
His kids were clearly brats who never heard the word "NO!" Who needs to be told to NOT allow their brats to FLY the airplane or allow them in the cockpit after the plane starts taking off!
Now all these people are DEAD!
The pilots are flying a plane that has new features, but were not made aware of, and not given training on it.
The kid happened to trigger the partial disengaging of the autopilot. But due to lack of knowledge of the pilots, it leads to confusion, and later to the crash.
It’s absolutely correct that it’s the Captain’s fault. He had no business letting a child sit in his seat and touch the instruments while the plane was in flight and full of passengers. Period. He compounded his mistake by not monitoring the status of the plane while his son was playing with the instruments. The emergency would not have happened if he had not foolishly done this.
Would you allow your children who are 9 years old to drive your car on a highway.
@@HappySharksAre you saying you need training or a manual to tell you not to let a teenager fly an airplane? Some things are a given and this is one of them
Airplanes are not toys. RIP to all on board.
Q: "Why is it turning?"
A: GET OUT OF THE PILOT'S SEAT RIGHT NOW!!!
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Thinking exactly the same thing, he should have taken control IMMEDIATELY
Unbelievable. How a pilot could put a kid in the drivers seat is beyond me. Even though they found other reasons which seem to try soften the blow, it is unacceptable. Not the kids fault at all, they should have never been put there. It was pilot error, it was the fathers fault. Pride cometh before a fall. Literally.
And boi did they fall.
Excellent! I’ve always been interested in this crash and why/how a child was in the pilot’s seat. Now I understand and feel so much empathy for all on board.
Kids shouldn't be in the camptons seat now kids can't go back where the captain is flying the plane they changed all the rules this is a true story
Neither of you can spell. I hope neither of you drive a car.
@@joncal4713 Post-11th of September, not even (non-crew) adults as well.
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IS THAT EXELENT????????
I hate flying and never do it now. But in the old days I remember how people were pretty free to come and go from the cockpit.
I didn’t really think at that time about why but it really bothered.
I was quite young so I put it down to my fear of flying. Until much later of course…..
this is the most anxiety-inducing recreation of one of these i've seen, jesus
also that other mom showed a lot of grace leaving it at "i don't believe kids should be in the cockpit"
The helpless and innocent passengers and their families are whom I feel compassion and sadness for.
I already saw this episode not watching it again. Nobody other than the pilots should be allowed in the cockpit plain and simple. You want to show your kid he sits in the jump seat if the cockpit has one or stands behind. Better yet, bring him on your training days and let him use one of the pilot simulators.
Riveting.
And nowadays they could get Microsoft Flight Simulator for a little over $100.
The pilot sim is so not the same but is equally as cool
This accident is right up there with Air France's flight 447. So easily avoidable, yet the consequences were deadly.
I was thinking the same thing. All the First officer Had to do was let go of his side stick and the planes automatic self-preservation system would’ve kicked in.
yoke on that one, no side stick
@@hpharridan 447 was a Airbus A330
It had a side stick. Definitely
@@christainmarks106 look it up....i thought the same thing, apparently some airbus planes had a yoke. at first i thought it was a crappy documentary, that they assumed all planes had a yoke....
@@christainmarks106 aeroflot flight 593 was an airbus A310, it had a yoke.
Its also important to point out that the lack of training to realize that you can accidently disconnect the autopilot with no warning shouldnt be overlooked.
that's not even training that's a major design flaw
Well, it's for damn sure the kid didn't have enough training!🙄
@@tracy7612 Even the pilots were not aware about it.
There was a warning. There was a red light illuminated, but the pilot was too busy showing off at the expense of 100 lives. Had he been in his seat, he’d have noticed.
It's a lethal engineering flaw. This WAS going to happen sooner or later, that kind of interface failure is a ticking time bomb.
I just watched this on Mentour Pilot and was glad that I found it here on Mayday. Even though the story is told very well with all of the technical details on Mentour. Mayday always gives a good reenactment of the events as they happened. Watching this story unfold I am in absolute shock that the captain on board not only invited his children into the cockpit but he let them sit in the captains seat with their inexperienced hands on the controls! Never mind the helpless souls aboard that flight, he wants to let his children play! Unbelievable!
I love watching Mentour for the technical info too!
Mayday is good for the reenactment as a first exposure, then watching mentour afterwards gives you better technical insight and more fleshed out explanations into exactly what happened.
The pilots are paying NO attention whatsoever, and there is a teenager flying the plane.
What could possibly go wrong?
The captain is absolutely to blame 100%. hundreds of lives depended on the captain and he did the most irresponsible thing he could do, putting a child at the controls.
The minute they noticed the plane turning when it wasn't supposed to, the capt needed to take his place at the chair again. Period
@@13SarcasticCats yeah, also thought about it
Also Disturbing is How ELDAR Had to Tell Them The Plane is Turning
If you want to teach your kid to fly, that’s what flight simulators are for.
To be fair, those didn't really exist in an affordable form back then. HOWEVER! That doesn't excuse the captains stupidity of putting innocent lives at risk just to make his kid happy.
Remember, this was in 1994
@@abdulsami7737 Yes it did, the first flight simulator (digital) was made in 1982. An actual full scale flight simulator was made in the 1970's but was considered a "gimmick" by many in the flight industry up until 1993. Its why I mentioned that they weren't very affordable.
@@dawnbalang9499 black boxes exist since long before the 90s
Eldar was a typically annoying kid
That woman lost her entire family. I can't even imagine her pain.
she can always start over and move on
@@draco2xx Seriously, you have a problem, because that's NOT the point. That anyone would have to say that to you is really disturbing.
@Donna Baardsen well its life, you cant stay stuck in the past. it sounds harsh, but it's just life 🤷🏽♂️
@Ricky Anthony It sounds horrible, not just weird. He makes it sound like popping out babies is easy to do and requires no commitment or love. As a mother I would never forget the ones that I do have. Two are fully grown men now and I will always cherish the memories that I had in raising them and the time spent together. I certainly would never think about just starting over after all I had been through with my children from birth to swimming lessons, teaching to ride bikes, bbq's, days out together etc... It would take someone exceptional to even make me want to have another child if I were to lose my whole family. There is nothing wrong with the memories of the past as I am sure they are good memories and I certainly would not want to forget those valuable times. Living without your children or spouse will happen regardless it is just a matter of when and how. A spuse will age and can pass on before you etc... You just do not go on like they never existed. It is a fact of life. when my two eldest boys moved out the place felt empty and yes I had to go on day by day. Like everything I am sure it gets easier even with death, but it is never forgotten. The key is keep busy and do things you like to do. Not to start over like we are pieces of meat with no value.
@@donnabaardsen5372 it's true it is life. Can't stay stuck in the past right on move on
He paid the ultimate price for his stupidity, along with the many lives he took and families he destroyed by his irresponsible actions!
It is the fault of the people responsible for training and familiarization of the new features in the autopilot.
WAIT....This was Horrible but it DID end up saving COUNTLESS MORE LIVES knowing the Flaws on this plane !!!!
@@ginnysnyder9703 I was thinking along that line too. It is also mentioned in the video that "in 1994 there are a series of crashes . . . "
We should stop blaming the dead, and let them rest in peace.
Not a training issue. They had kids in the seat of an aircraft who have no business being at the controls. Would you allow your young kids to drive your car on a highway without any training.
@@007donj I would say it is a familiarization issue.
Yes, it is wrong to put a child in the seat of an aircraft. But that kind of accident is bound to happen because the plane has features that pilots have to be familiar with.
It is tantamount to letting a driver of a automatic transmission car drive a manual transmission car.
I love this series. *This is probably the most avoidable and morally irresponsible air disaster in aviation history* 😡 Such tragic consequences for many innocent people 😢
CPT should have told the kid, “DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING.”
@@greggstrasser5791 NO! The captain shouldn't have let either kid sit in the seat in the first place and so much for the whimpy co-pilot who didn't speak up say "OH NO YOU DON"T"!
@@greggstrasser5791
Actually..........the kid should have NEVER been allowed to sit in that seat while the plane is in operation..........PERIOD
@@isabellind1292
zzzzzzzzzzzactly
@@LouisGedo Well spot on what you said, "...the most avoidable and morally irresponsible air disaster..."!
All those poor families who suffered such loss! But the wife who lost her husband and children…how she must suffer with such mixed pain for the loss of her family but also for the guilt that it was her husbands mistake for allowing the children into his chair as captain and also her children’s involvement. That poor precious woman…she must feel the weight of the loss of every deceased person from that flight! May God grant her Peace and peace to every family member who lost loved ones!
Mentour Pilot just did this one too - pretty amazing that this could happen. Why would they not immediately get the kid out of the seat as soon as there was any kind of anomaly? There was enough time before the G's kicked in.
Just overconfident arrogant pilot killed the passengers.
@@ranapratapsingh3416 Can't blame the child, the pilots are 100% to blame. He should never have been in that seat, ever.
@@pdog547 The kid should have gotten out of the seat the moment they sensed the danger. Unfortunately the kid is still sitting in the seat and watching the killing of all the passengers.
@@ranapratapsingh3416 he’s too young to understand that kind of thing.
@@mimikyu__- The pilot is an idiot to all the kid in the cockpit of such a sophisticated machine
This is so sad accident could have been prevented may the victims rest in peace 🙏🏻❤️
allowing his son to get a "feel of his job" mid air was just extreme. So many lives lost and families heartbroken!
Welcome to Russia.
@@AB-80Xwelcome to chauvinism.
When the boy told his father that aircraft is turning right initially and i think at that point he must have taken control of that aircraft and sat on his seat and i think the situation would be completely different.He instead let the boy to fly the plane waste previous seconds
Love how they did a re-enactment of this tragedy.
Uh oh. I see the momma giving an interview and talking on behalf of her husband and children....
NEVER a good sign when watching mayday. Thank goodness for this show otherwise we would never have heard anything about almost 90% of these accidents. May the victims and their families all find peace but I think I speak for us all when I say WE don't watch their stories unfold without the upmost respect. God bless them all .
One major aspect of the incident that I think was sorely missed by this portrayal is that the first officer had major difficulties trying to regain control because he had extended and reclined his seat so far back he could barely reach the controls. He'd configured it this way when he gave control over the the other pilot to relax, as in normal circumstances he'd have a reasonable time frame to readjust his seat if he needed to take back control. When the plane suddenly entered the spiral, adjusting his seat became nearly impossible when he was the only certified person with hands on the column and trying to wrangle the aircraft back into stability.
God bless powered seat adjusters :)
@@savithagopi8479ehh the motors will experience the same G force and won’t move
Put the blame to the father. They failed, so it turned into a warning that never let anyone who doesn't have any knowledge to fly sit on the pilot''s seat and let him fly the plane. The worst move he ever did
If anybody has you sit in the pilot seat, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING.
@@greggstrasser5791the boy could have saved the plane
Thank you. I have seen this before, but NOW. TODAY I understand more details of this accident. Somehow this retelling was clearer and sharper than before. Thank you
Whenever you on a plane and see a kid walking up to the cockpit stop them. Their pilot dad may be a reckless idiot that cost lives. 😭
Well it carelessly
KAREN ALERT!
This was before 9.11. Afterwards this kind of thing was not allowed.
Umm,, the pilot dad, nor his kid had anything to do w the plane crashing.. it was the co pilot who stalled the plane after they got the kid off of the flight controls, that led to them running out of airspace, which led to the crash
@@knosismercury It's a chain of events that lead to aviation accidents. This has been shown time after time after investigations have been conducted and concluded. If the Dad, the Capt wouldn't have allowed his children into the cockpit, and allowed his son to sit in the pilots seat, with his hands on the controls, this would've never happened. This is just one aspect of this crash that one could argue that was a catalyst that lead up to this accident. 😳
Pilot usually forget, when passengers board your plane, they put their life at your hand. Please don't take that for granted
I hope Eldar and Yana were able to hold and comfort each other in their final moments like the show depicts. I can’t imagine the terror and guilt Eldar felt in his last moments on earth, thinking he was to blame.
Because he literally was 🙃
@@sneksteppy it was his father and the other pilots who were at fault here.. they should’ve never allowed the children into the cockpit during the flight, let alone use the controls. They’re the ones with the responsibility and duty of care to the passengers.
Boy it is okay you are not to blame. It is the captain's fault after all
@@rebeccamace1534his father told him to bank left …. But he froze …. Trust me I have been this teenager so confident when I convinced my dad to let me try driving in like a park ….. I speed and froze thankfully my dad was able to slam the breaks ….. sometimes kids have too much enthusiasm
@@luisfernando5998 true, but why didn’t they let the children see the cockpit before take off with no passengers? For me it’s the fact that this happened during a commercial flight with passengers on board if that makes sense ? I can relate to your driving experience, I remembered I was driving round a carpark/parking. It was empty. I panicked and put my foot on the accelerator and not the brake 😂😂 luckily my dad put the hand brake on in seconds lol
This is the most despicable story in all of the airplane documentaries and I have seen alot of them. To allow a kid to not only sit in the pilot's seat but to manipulate the controls is reprehensible. How arrogant of that father to have risked the lives of everyone onboard. Had they gotten that kid out of the pilot's seat before the g forces kicked in the outcome could have been different.
To be fair, the dad thought the autopilot was on and had no knowledge that it could partially disengage and neither of the crew knew that the system would not warn them.
It was still irresponsible, though. Not arrogant, though, IMO.
Is it the g forces the reason they could not take the seat back from the young Eldar.
All they had to do is have the kid release his hold on the yoke so the autopilot would regain control. Instead, they let him keep pulling on the yoke for a turn, which caused it to nose over into a dive. In his panic, he kept the plane in a corkscrew down to the ground.
Yes on the one hand you can say that but on the other, the pilot paid for that "arrogance" with his life.....and yes the lives of other people....but I think his own death is about as much as he can pay
@@myfairlahey5738: He paid for his big mistake by killing himself, his kids, and his friends and colleagues.
As a child in the 80s, I was often allowed to go into the cockpit during the many flights I took with my parents. I of course was never allowed to sit in the pilot's seat.
Dad was a pilot and Mom was a stewardess I presume? Or was this an 'Airplane' situation where the Captain just took a shine to you? 😂
"You ever been in a COCKpit?"
------Airplane The Movie
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@@grandam "You ever seen a grown man naked?"
@@jamesb1988 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Trying to downplay the captain's culpability in this "accident" is pretty gross.
When "Bring Your Kid to Work Day" goes horribly wrong.
Russian style..
Bring your kid to work day is fine as long as they don't start doing your work
It's heart breaking.
I'm really sad for everyone there incuding the captain.
That poor woman lost her entire family 😪
lol they werent worth living
@@aditibhat8669 dude thats harsh
@@aditibhat8669 wow that is really rude of you to say such thing
@@KeepSmiling4018 they seriously killed over a 100 didnt they?
@@ryukihagane7211 no it’s not. They deserve everything. St-pid man trying to prove he loves his children more than anything on the wrong side
I've mentioned in another video how irresponsible it was to have his kid sit at the controls while the pilot was distracted. What's worse is you'd think the second it was turning he'd say, "Okay yeah Eldar get out of my seat now let me check this out." But he doesn't. And then it's too late and Eldar can't anymore.
Just plain stupidity. He had so many chances to save the plane and he blew though them all.
There's the fact that the copilot nearly recovered the plane, but messed up. He got the plane out of the turning dive, and pulled up to gain altitude, but he committed a novice error of pulling up too sharply for too long that the plane stalled and fell from the sky. When he got out of the dive, he should've climbed at the proper rate. When he loss climb speed, he should've decreased his climb angle. When he stalled the plane, he should've put the nose down to gain speed, level off, and then climb. He also could've let the plane recover by releasing the yoke. He had opportunities to save everyone, but failed.
@@oahuhawaii2141 That's exactly the procedure step-by-step
When the plane banks that steeply, the pilot's most urgent priority is to level the plane. Why the heck do they spend 9 precious seconds looking at the plane heading?
From the moment his son voiced his concern about the control, he should have gotten back in his seat doing what he was being paid for 😤
The dad should have taken over and got back in the pilot seat as soon as the son asked why the plane was turning. He just continued to look on while the son remained in the pilots seat.
@freda jordan: The first officer failed 3 times:
1) He failed to monitor the flight instruments to see if the plane is deviating from plan.
2) He got the plane out of its corkscrew dive by countering the turn and pulling up, but he then committed a novice error by maintaining the climb long enough to stall the plane so it fell out of the sky. (Reminds me of Air France 447.)
3) He still could've recovered, but he lost situational awareness and got to the point of it being unrecoverable. He could've dropped down the nose to gain speed and control, level off to stabilize the stall recovery, and then climb at a proper rate.
Bonus: Had he had known, he could've released the controls to let the flight systems save the plane from crashing.
This right here from the very beginning was just a recipe for a disaster may they all rest in peace
This is giving me trust issues on a whole different level. So shocking someone who so many people trust with their lives can basically betray them so casually.
Regardless of the situation there, it should not have been possible to partially disengage autopilot like that. This accident was bound to happen sooner or later with a tired pilot or a pilot that got up from his seat the wrong way. The plane's engineering is 100% at fault here.
People sometimes do not take things seriously when they do a task too often. Car drivers are also supposed to focus on the road and surrounding all the time since there are lives at risk. Careless accidents happens frequently everywhere
How can it give you trust issues? You could not trust Russians then, and nothing has changed.
All that those poor people had to endure because the capt had to show his kids how to fly 😠
Umm.. technically, it was the co pilot stalling the plane after they got the kid off of the flight controls, that led to them crashing 😉
@@knosismercury wrong, the pilots leveled off after the stall. They crashed because of the steep dive ultimately caused by the boy. 🙄
@@jamesshepherd5805 umm, i guess u watched a different vid.. cos after the 1st dive,, & before the 1st captain took back controls from his kid.. the co pilot pulled the nose of the plane way too high @20:15 & @43:45, which is what stalled them for a 2nd time,, & which is what led to them crashing, after not having enough airspace to level out.. so again,, the co pilot is the reason they crashed 😉
I was speechless to I just don't understand why this crazy pilot let's his kids fly the plane
The relief Captain, Kurdrinksky, or however you spell it, didn't actually let his son Eldar fly the plane. He made the mistake of letting his children sit in the pilot's seat, and put their hands on the control yoke. When Eldar was sitting in the pilot's seat, when he had his hands on the yoke, he tried turning it, and partially disengaged the auto pilot. They apparently weren't aware of this. The pilots couldn't figure out the problem of why the plane went into a bank, thinking the auto pilot was fully engaged. Of course, he never should've let them sit in the pilot's seat to begin with.
@@kevinmalone3210 EGO
How can you not know your altitude and position at all times no matter what with that much experience?? May all those innocent passengers rest in peace
It's a fact in aviation, that when professional pilots, and even pilots in general, gain a certain amount of experience, alot of hours, they become more lax. I believe these pilots just let their guard down, thinking everything was OK because the plane was on auto pilot and due to their experience.
You dont let a kid fly an aircraft just as you wont let a kid drive a car
He wasn’t flying the aircraft. It was on autopilot.
Duh.
@@greggstrasser5791 Yet provided enough input to override autopilot's bank control. It's essentially a hybrid of manual flight and autopilot.
@@dbclass4075
Ya... sounds kinda odd.
donmrLenn i went in a red arrow and they let me hold the controls i was 11
They did say he was 15...so not the best metaphor. Plenty of 15 year olds drive with a permit (supervised). But you have credentials: this is more like...letting a kid fly a damn jet plane. No comparison needed...it speaks for itself.
Nothing would have happened had the kids stayed out of the cockpit. Period.
Nothing would have happened if the autopilot gave a warning when it partially disconnected. Period.
Nothing would have happened if g forces didn't pin everyone down. Period.
Nothing would have happened if Eldar didn't turn as forcefully. Period.
You can't pin the blame of an accident on a single thing, except in extremely unusual circumstances, which this was not one of.
Nothing would have happened if the FO was watching the plane.
@@Owen_loves_Butters Sure you can, the boy started everything. Without that, we wouldn't have to speak about all the other points. And no, it wasn't his fault, but his father's.... a fault for which so many innocent people had to die.
@@potocatepetl You can say the same about any of the other things I mentioned
@@Owen_loves_Butters No, you can't. The kid was the first link in this horror situation. If he wasn't there (at the invitation of the father) and started all of it, the plane would land safely. There is always a catalyst. In this case it was them playing pilot... It's the same as in a shooting situation. Just because the first responders and doctors can't save a victim, it doesn't mean it is their fault a they die... They might contribute to the tragedy, but are not the ones at fault for it.
It wasn’t the kid’s fault but if the dad pilot never let the kids enter the cockpit, none of this would have happened.
I could see letting the kids come up to see the cockpit but you never EVER allow a child access to the flight controls!!
You'd think it would be common sense to not allow a kid to sit in the pilot's seat, and put his hands on the control yoke.
Very irresponsible pilot. He killed all of them!
God killed them.
Captain should’ve said to leave the control and let first officer handle the control. Why would a parent let their kid handle? That’s stupidity.
Absolutely moronic to put a child into the pilot's seat! This is a sign of a very bad pilot and a bad father too!
He's not a bad father, he knows nothing will happen if its autopilot.. He didn't notice that his son make a mistake, it shows how he loved his children, bad father wouldn't act that way...
@@czanneian still a bad pilot tho
@@tzshchsjsjxijyo not really, maybe he just show off to his Kids... Just like us, me? I always wanted to show off to my parents how will i studied and maintained my Scholarship.. Show off,, not being boastful, just proud of the Achievements, that's how i see it. He's just overwelmed without having that idea that would be their last moment..
@@tzshchsjsjxijyo
Bad FO.
@@greggstrasser5791 thanks for correcting me
The new airport in HK was not opened til 1998. I myself took the Aeroflot London - Moscow - HK flight in early 1995 and we landed in the old Kai Tak airport. A few months later, I flew back to London from Kai Tak and spent a few days in Moscow on way back. Most exotic trip of my life at the time, will never forget. The legs between London and Moscow featured old Russian made planes with some luggage packed in the back of the cabin, seat backs that would collapse upon landing if they were empty, and plenty of vodka drinking (and even cigarette smoking if I remember right).
...I remember the days when you could still smoke on airplanes, they even had a smoking and non smoking areas....on an airplane.....a kid in the pilot seat, not a good idea....
@@timothybelgard-wiley4823
Kid not touching anything- better idea.
The visual was so convincing that I literally felt it
Literally? Do you know what the word means?
This plane crash could have been prevented if the pilot kids wasn’t on the control column ✈️💥😡
This is not playing
I so agreee with that. I would've had him fly a simulated plane. Not a real one. I blame the kid and his pilots.
The FO should have been watching the instruments.
This happens every day.
First time my uncle took me up in his 172, he let me fly & I low-key would pull back to go higher. He kept an eye on the altimeter.
@@greggstrasser5791 Once the pilot noticed the first sign of trouble, he should've taken over the controls, not the kid. I would not have put a 15 year old kid through that. I can't even imagine the terror and the horror he must've been enduring. I'm just speechless right now.
Having the kid at the control column was irresponsible, but not catastrophic. The main problems were neither pilot focusing on the adi, and the plane having no indication of a partial autopilot disconnection.
Comments say: The boy is not at fault. Reality of it is: If the captain had not had his kids in the cockpit behind the wheel, there would not have been any bad situation. The fault lies in the captain allowing the boy to sit behind the wheel with all those people's lives at stake. Bottom line: had the boy never been allowed to put his hands on the wheel, there would have been no problems during the flight.
Perfectly said.
cs So very true.
@Christina Jackson: Not perfect. The "wheel" is known as the yoke.
I know that boy was learning how to fly. It was the captain what cause the crash. Yes because it would have been easier if the kids were not in the controls.
@@andrezcolon6353: No, the kid wasn't learning to fly. He was allowed to play with the yoke, and the cockpit crew assumed that the autopilot is going to ignore his inputs to the yoke. They didn't know that the autopilot can disengage partially and actually turn the plane.
[After the autopilot allowed the the turn, the kid kept it in a turn until it lost lift, and rolled over into a dive. The crew didn't tell the kid to release his hold on the yoke, so he held it in the turning dive; that input conflicted with the co-pilot's inputs when he finally could grab his own yoke. Thus, the crew failed again to establish control of the plane, allowing the kid to nullify the co-pilot's actions.
When the co-pilot recovered from the dive, he messed up by pitching the plane up in a steep climb until it stalled, and fell from the sky again. This time, they were too low to recover.
The crew didn't fully understand how key parts of the plane behave, and made a series of errors that crashed the plane. When the plane initially fell from the sky, all they had to do was have the kid release his hold of the yoke, and then re-engage the autopilot. The plane would've recovered by itself.]
I can only imagine how the pilots wife's goes through.the "what ifs"if only the kids never went with their father on that trip.
That would have made all the difference in prevention
Yana was the only one directly involved in this situation with any sense at all of the gravity of being near the controls of the plane-- too bad her wariness proved to be warranted ):
The anniversary of such an event (last week) always triggers a flurry of "new" videos from the aviation channels. Not complaining, just observing.
Anti-Russian propaganda.
Captain is solely responsible for this tragic accident. How could he allow his anxiously excited childrens to handle the controls which is very unprofessional. Being piloting passenger's plane he should hv been cautious about undesired eventuality. I guess his confidence as veteran pilot got the better if him. What a sad chain of events.
I love how they all look on the horizon without doing anything and waiting i don't know what.
This is especially sad.... it's something I believe many parents would do, to show their off spring their proud career. So unfortunate....
The pilot was definitely responsible for letting his children in the cockpit and then letting his son actually try to,fly it. But then the Russians tried,to,blame a non-Russian built plane for the accident. Typical of the Russian government blaming other country’s products - as if Russian-built things are perfect. Remember their first rockets, their cars and their airplanes - always problems and shoddy work. Plus the pilots didn’t have the basics of training in this new plane. The people who run the country just are not able to ever admit their mistakes.
Oh why don't you shut up. BTW, their space transportation system has a better overall safety record than ours.
Same like the Tupolev TU-144 the Soviet Supersonic Concorde that crashed
This is why I'll never again climb aboard one of these things, how could a pilot be so damn irrisponsible as this?
Yeah, it's mind boggling. One thing lead to another, then the plane ends up crashing.
“Dad, can I fly the plane?”
“Sure son…… in flight school.”
There, tragedy avoided. But no…… let’s put several lives in the hands of a kid!!!
Or, I’ll buy you Flight Simulator when we get home!
@@kevindavis8175 Even better.
Not quite. The plane was in autopilot, the pilot didn't think the kid had any actual control.
Flight simulator didnt exist back then.
@@ToyotaTacomaV6 The first edition of Microsoft Flight Simulator was released in 1982.
He left that child in that seat like he was a dam pilot
44:30 *WOW!* I think that having a safety feature that requires you to *do nothing* is VERY against-instinct. Like... imagine being in a car that's spinning out of control and the solution is to let go of the wheel. No matter how you think of it, it feels like you're letting go of the very thing that could save you.
I've found nothing outside of this episode to support that claim
A lot of times letting go of the wheel when your car is spinning is the best solution. Usually drivers make things worse when they try to incorrectly turn the wheel.
Also both pilots had been experienced pilots with the captain having over 900 hrs on the A310 he should’ve known the aircraft inside and out. Of course the company is at fault also for their failure to properly train and take safety more seriously. When a child “running” through the first class can get you fired but having a child in the captains seat with hands on controls captain felt it wouldn’t get him in trouble.
That was a crazy revelation at the end how the plane would've saved itself.
Secret emergency safety features are easily the most dangerous aspects of plane design. They're implicated in dozens of the most deadly plane crashes. Nobody trains the pilots on what they changed and assume that the machine will handle everything. The machine never does.
The airline didn't find out they hired a captain with the brain of a 5 year old until it was too late.
May they RIP Condolences to all the families who has lost Loved Ones.See them in The Paradise to Come❤🥰⏰
AWESOME choice there, captain.
Imagine if the uncle didn't wake up the kids to go to the cockpit
Bruh, no offense but that photo of you is sooo unflattering. Take another one bruh.
Thanks for uploading the Old episodes of Aircrash investigation ❤️❤️
Superb voice, superb narration!!!! More, please.
Having the kid at the control column was irresponsible, but not catastrophic. The main problems were neither pilot focusing on the adi, and the plane having no indication of a partial autopilot disconnection. Also, a lot of people in the comments seem to think that the pilot "put hundreds of lives in the hands of a child". The autopilot was engaged. It was flying the plane. Eldar had no actual control until the autopilot disconnected its lateral movement. The pilot had no idea. He thought the autopilot was still in control, that's why he was confused about why the plane was turning. There was also a clear deficiency in the upset recovery training these pilots received.
Thank you. Someone should always be watching the instruments.
Well if HE would have never had the kid in there showing off,MANY LIVES WOULDN'T BE GRAVEYARD DEAD..HAD YOU LOSS LOVE ONE'S IN THAT CRASH I BET YOU BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE
The cockpit crew did everything they could under the circumstances and it really wasn't their fault. But in the end the plane still crashed and killed everyone. This would not have happened if the kids were not allowed in there in the first place. So regardless of blame, a major safety rule was breached. In that sense, it was gross negligence by every adult in the cockpit. There is no excuse to allow any kind of distraction while the plane is flying.
@@mrslcom
If they had all stayed in bed, this wouldn’t have happened.
You do realize unlicensed kids are behind yokes EVERY DAY, right?
It’s a non-sequitor.
Eldar though was responsible for the partial disconnection of the auto pilot. He moved, hit the yoke with enough force to cause this. If the pilot would've never had his son in the pilot seat, then this couldn't have happened.
Children in the cockpit? How dangerous is that.Three pilots couldn't prevent this avoidable accident? That itself is puzzling. Were they all in their senses?
Why was this family buried in a a special burning ground when they were the cause of a lot of people's lives what a slap in the face of all the passenger . My work had a special day for children to visit the workplace under special people doing the tour . Father had no right putting all the other passengers lives at risk.
They had a brand new plane which had controls setup differently than other planes in their fleet. No one but the manufacturer knew that the auto pilot controls could be partially disabled. So, no one knew the right action to take to get back to normal flight.
The kids should of never been in that seat. Poor decision by pilot to let kid in pilot seat
I’d be very upset to find out the pilot is letting his kids play with the plane in the AIR
DONT LET CHILDREN FLY A COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE!!!
Unbelievable this must be stated, yet here we are.
When the autopilot started to keep the turn going it should have been shut off and manually flown back to level. Then you can turn the autopilot back on and reset it!!!
Its not a game on a computor! No kids should be in the cockpit never!
Its sad to think the engineers are smart enough to design something as complex as an areoplane but dumb enough to forget an alarm on partial Auto pilot dissconnect .
I remember reading something about Airbus saying that the computers would prevent pilots from making any inputs which would crash the plane, so why would the computers allow a bank angle of 40 degrees, which was beyond its design limits ?
I find that puzzling, too.
If you knew to let the plane make its own recovery by letting go of the controls, but that system was designed for upset recovery, meaning stall prevention, and recovery from steep dives, and upset banks, very steep banks. I never liked the design philosophy of the Airbus, because its redundant systems to prevent aircraft upset, just seem to over complicated things, and can make matters worse.
They show Eldar holding the yoke. An Airbus A310 doesn’t have a yoke…it has a side stick. Which actually raises a slight design flaw on the Airbus. On a side stick you’d be less likely to notice Eldar applying force to the left. On a traditional yoke (Boeing etc.) it’s centered and would be obvious.
Not putting Airbus down, but the side stick does have its limitations. The Air France crash is another example.
This makes me sick to my stomach.
I was completely surprised when I realised that they were in the air with all aboard, when the children were able to spend that time in the cockpit. On the ground sure and of course it's dad's job; it ought to have been an exciting glimpse prior to the take-off itself. To ever do that in the midst of an operating flight , blew me away.
When I was around 10yrs old I was put on a flight alone, and when they hit cruise I was taken to the cockpit. After a couple of minutes a pilot stood up, and asked whether I’d look after the plane while he went to the bathroom. I of course accepted.
I just sat in the chair and looked around as the other pilot chatted with me.
From what I’ve heard, this was way more common than people want to admit. Mine was around 92’
@@mikemck4796 I got to visit the cockpit in '87. Didn't get to sit down, but did hang out chatting to the pilots til I got bored.
@@beckiehubley5798 Sometimes I feel bad for kids nowadays. There are experiences they won’t have. Cockpits, a proper orca show… the Karen’s have clearly won.
@@mikemck4796
lol “a proper orca show”
To me, it’s more the stuff like going out to play with your friends and making sure to be home before dinner. 90s-early 00s kids were the last to have that in their lives en masse
I still don't understand why you had your child at the controls
👁👁. What year did this occur⁉️ Sounds like simple dense Russians monitoring the play yard. At lease they are buried together...
@@diannedearriel5213 It happened in 1998.
It happened in 1994
Heartbreaking that the pilots kids lost their life at a young age 😞
Are you for real? Who cares? They are murderers.
My heart beat so fast watching this 😩😢
This is just so sad and irresponsible on the part of the pilots 💔 to allow a child to not only sit in the pilots seat but to actually touch the controls while in flight is such a lapse in judgement. Why not wait til the plane is on the ground for them to sit in the pilot seat or allow them to only watch their father flying the plane?