It's cause he finally has someone on his tier Steve all ready looking high tier and shown by this video we're just scratching the surface of his tricks
Reaction : "Oh cool he has a very nice shield break, wonder what's his best punish is..." *see grab at 0% offstage* "Oh that's cool he has a suicide grab at any %" *see Steve making it back to the ledge* "God saves us..."
This works with Kirby’s minecraft block copy ability with Stone. An advantage that Kirby has is that he doesn’t have to worry about spacing around the center of the block, it works everywhere. Sadly, stone cannot hit the falling and landing hitbox no matter what, but you can still hit the falling hitbox twice. This doesn’t break a full shield instantly, but it can break a ~95% shield.
@@JJSquirtle I guess? I mean it doesn’t deal damage so I’m not sure what the 1.2* damage could apply to. Fun fact about the copy: Steve has an inventory size of 100 (excluding redstone), while Kirby only has 20. This is to compensate for the fact that Kirby has infinite tools and only uses materials for blocks, unlike Steve.
I think when most people saw his blocks they immediately thought he was going to be top tier I don't think they expected stupidly overpowered combos like this
@@gbx4858 I mean I’m honestly happy that they aren’t nerfing the top tiers... as long as a character isn’t game breaking *Sm4sh Bayo and Brawl Mk Flashbacks* they shouldn’t really get crazy nerfs! People need to learn how to deal with stuff and I’m happy to see that after 3.1.0 the dev teams design Philosophy has changed to buffing weaker characters and giving top tiers fixes not buffs like Pikachu in this patch who only got a small Forward air fix
Imagine if we referred to other characters as "video game character" Final Fantasy Cloud Metal Gear Solid Snake Bayonetta Bayonetta Mario Tennis Daisy Castlevania Simon Donkey Kong King K. Rool Kirby King Dedede Metroid Samus Pacman Pacman Pokémon Pokémon trainer
@@dairhat mario luigi mario xD initially while typing this comment I put in mario mario mario but it sounded exaggerated lol Like starfox fox mccloud (last names aren't included in smash) but yeah it's funny
@@YounesLayachi is it? If so, then srry. But even if it is, you're still being hit by the anvil, and most Mac players prefer up-smash OOS so they aren't used to up-bing
For recovering with the elytra, would recommend trying to airdodge out of it to get better ledge grab range. This could potenially make it easier to recover from the grab 0 to death. This could potentially make it so doing the trick, but double jumping outwards, minecarting in, jumping backwards out of that, and doing a normal elytra plus the extended grab via airdodging to cancel elytra for more grab range, for a easier tech?
I had a thought that they might "nerf" the blocks by making the hurtbox on them bigger so more attacks would break them instead of harmlessly bouncing off (Which can make them seriously suck to deal with for some characters), but that would actually make the shield break set-up easier if it meant you no longer had to hit the center of the block for a quick break.
You guys are thinking way too hard about potential nerfs. If this proves too good, they just nerf the shield damage of the anvil. They did the same thing to Samus' charge shot and missiles, quite a while back.
@@Nwordsoup There aren't many instant shield breaks in the game and it would be interesting to have more. Lucina's neutral B is usually just to scare you if it lands; if it could have broken your shield, you'd probably be taking the hit instead
a bit of steve up-b knowledge: if you cancel the elytra with attack/dodge right at the peak steves legs will face upwards also shifting the hitbox for the ledge grab a bit, making this instakill setup not very hard to survive
I think the minecart might have an unblockable setup too. If you hit a shield you can jump out immediately to grab them with the cart. This forces them to choose an option. I haven't tested this thoroughly but I think rolling wouldn't give invincibility soon enough, and I tried jumping and the cart still hit me. That just leaves spot dodging, which I think works but if Steve can cover that option with something else then boom, unblockable set up.
Steve is the first character where I’ve found footstool out of shield/parry to be actually applicable in a match. If someone misspaces an aerial at like 90-100% they’re just dead with footstool anvil OOS. It’s nuts.
There's a tech where if you flick the stick downwards after activating the elytra it gives you like 50% more height. Unsure if this is a bug or not right now though
You don’t need to reverse up b to get back to the ledge. You can just up b facing the ledge and press airdodge the moment u reach the highest point, which would allow the ledge magnet to suck u in. (Or you can spam the airdodge button as up b only reads the airdodge after it gets to the highest point)
Always glad to see you making this kind of content. Every time there’s a new patch, I look forward to your videos, the obvious choice for the best new data on characters. Keep it up, bro!
@@genikeyssaryalcantarabelli7430 Oh no, jeepers. I have been had by the most classic trick in the book. Whatever shall I do to forget this oh somber day?
To recover from the kill setup you can also do buffered double jump into minecart-buffered jump, down b which resets Minecart and then another minecart buffered jump to reach stage more reliably
Interesting... Since Steve has so many things that we would consider wonky, there’s no way that all of Steve’s uniqueness will be patched out in the future. To fix this one, they could make it so that the victim is also air released out of the grab which would allow some characters to live. Show ‘em whatchu got, Mac baby 😭
I hate to agree here, but this 100% will happen. Ultimate could be such a sick game if Nintendo didn't patch out all of the cool shit people find. I wanna like it so much but I haven't touched my switch in months.
@@mac_sour I hate to agree too. lol I've played nothing but Steve since he came out and I don't want these nerfs, but this combo is so far from how he was intended to be played, there's no way it doesn't get patched.
I think a more balanced option would be making anvil deal more damage the further it falls. That's what happens in the source game, and it nerfs the shieldbreak in this video.
I want to know who you are playing because I swear "most people" don't shield in disadvantage . Most people I've played, especially online, mash attack buttons out of disadvantage.
@@hahalery lol I was just making a joke, but to be fair I've been to tournaments and even Evo and there are still button Mashers in the 1st couple of rounds. It isn't until you get further in the bracket that you run into good players. So online isn't the only place it happens.
Like one time in round 1 of a bracket I had to fight a Yoshi and I just stood there for like 15 seconds and the Yoshi player literally forward smash the air 3-5 times in a row.
GimR you can grab the ledge from much father below it by pressing air dodge when below the ledge to unequip the wings. Doing this will allow Steve to grab the ledge from MUCH farther below the ledge. It’s a significant difference. I found this out yesterday when I was playing.
@@riverross Bro, there are easy setups that Steve has that can make him mine Iron easily like mining on his OWN Tnt block. Costing Iron is super easy, barely an inconvenience for Steve. XD
Steve is fun but a bit of a case of DLC privilege. Anyone noticed the weirdly janky dance that he does when your right at the ledge and repeatedly crouch?
All I'm gonna say is that Steve is just plain big brain clone of Pac-Man and I love it! Pac-Man players: Finally, a big brain opponent! Our battle will be mathematically legendary!!!
Idk if this is even worth mentioning but, I was playing around as steve against bowser, and I figured out that if you do the weird glitched short hop back air thing, and then a landing nair, and then turnaround and repeat, it goes on for awhile. Obviously its not an infinite but I think it could lead to some cool setups
@@GimR not exactly sure what frame you need to press it at but basically if you spam a or shield when finishing your up b, you get a slight boost in the direction you were going (diagonal-upwards in this case), like a nerfed airdodge towards the stage. Using that i managed to grab ledge in fd after your anvil grab confirm without using cart, but only ONCE lol (edit: found the trickfor this one but its still risky, explained in my other reply), its really tight, prolly needs a frame perfect jump on perfect angle and perfect "airdodge" which ive got no clue how to control well. However u can still skip cart using cheap mats instead by doing TNT after popping up from anvil, dj, up b towards ledge, A spam, way easier cheap method. Now if you wanna go VERY safe and dont care for wasting both cheap mats and steel, do TNT after anvil pop up, cart, jump out of cart asap, dj, up b, the whole combo reaches ledge with a TON of leeway, specially considering you can still a spam if you manage to fuck it up lol, so in a high stakes match if i have the mats id always go for it. Another thing: in fd at least, you can just fh diagonally to reach a working block+anvil grab position, no need for the idj or drifting back towards stage so kinda easier, and faster too so it could work to catch someone chasing you to ledge (then holding shield or w/e) off guard. Edit: on 2nd thoughts after a bit more labbing, i might just use the solo tnt-dj-upb-spam A even in high stakes situations, since the inputs are very easy, and dont require any very precise angles/timings, can just buffer/spam and they reach anyways lol, already getting it 100% consistent, so deffo the most cost efficient riskless recovery for this setup assuming you have the dirt blocks and prioritize saving steel for neutral carts
@@GimR (continuatoon to my other comment) ok found the trick to get more consistent with the material-less (no cart no tnt) recovery: it needs an fthrow as the "dont mash out" throw to get the piston pop up that closes the gap enough for A spam to reach. Gotta do it not too early (or you get killed lol) and not too late or you dont get the pop up, so still kinda risky and id still go for the fully consistent tnt only recovery if i have the dirt mats, but good to have in the arsenal in case i find the setup but im low on mats lol
@@GimR ok now with the new "hold up tap down" up b extension wasting mats is not necessary at all, you insta reach ledge very easy with it. However, mixed with A tap and tnt + cart you can also reach ledge on a WHIFFED grab suicide!!!! That makes it viable as just a stalling pressure option on neutral/disadvantage, no risk other that wasting mats from using the move on a mobile target!!!
1:41 me who only plays jigglypuff and can almost always hit a rest. Steve: OH HO HO YOUR APPROACHING ME? DESPITE THE FACT THAT I CAN KILL YOU INSTANTLY YOU CHOSE TO GET CLOSER? Inkling with 1 life left: I can't beat the shit out of you without getting clo- Announcer: GAME
I'm sure someone already knows this, but because blocks break faster on the pink barrier, placing a block on the barrier and then down smash immediately breaks the block and there is zero end lag. It's just another off stage option, though it is hard to reliably place a block on the pink barrier. Food for experimenting I guess.
I mean, maybe. Steve at top level is probably going to be very campy when played optimally. So we'll see. But yea, he def wont be as bad as S4 bayo, she was a nightmare.
@@ahmadkazan7994 I'm sure offline will be a different story too, but it'll be a while until we can see what Steve really looks like in a tournament setting. He seems like a great addition though!
@@ahmadkazan7994 Steve should never have 0 resources. He spawns with a half full inventory, he always respawns with at least 3 iron, mining is very fast, he has many ways to camp and stall against most of the cast, and he keeps his inventory on death. Steve should NOT be running out of resources unless you are getting heavily outplayed. Every time he throws you off stage or gets hit away, he has time to mine. AND YES, steve CAN mine in disadvantage with things like block place > TnT drop, you can mine the TnT on top of the block without the block breaking quickly. Thats like 3-6 seconds to mine materials in disadvantage every block place you do depending on the material of the block. Steve has plenty of ways to get resources. he should NOT be running out.
As a puff main I have to say this shield break punish simply wont work for her. Sill the fact that you have this optimal punish that works for everyone else is cool ig, but the punish after a shield break just doesnt work on puff.
@@DrSwazz Bro it was a joke. The shield break itself kills jigglypuff at zero. Also, what I said is probably not technically wrong tho; if steve somehow lands the setup on puff, she of all characters would be the one to make it back if the steve player doesnt do it perfectly. If anything, we are crying in balloon that we can die at zero.
@@engranger_ssbu I knew puff died at zero, I just thought you tested it and found that she had more frames to escape cause she was floaty or something, idk. Either way good stuff
If they patch this all they need to do is make it so anvil either does less damage/shield damage, or make it so you can't get two hitboxes. I'd also want that punish gone, maybe Steve should not be able to grab while on an anvil...
I havent seen anyone mention this yet, and its not directly related but you can totally hide Steve's TNT if its already placed, blocks will just cover it as if it isn't even there! It shares the same space as if it is your crafting table (also all 3 can occupy the same space so maybe steve is actually operating in 4d and we are all 3d peasants) . Steve now laughs at Snake's 'stealthy' c4
It'll be patched in the next patch don't worry. This is not skill this just broken. IF NINTENDO never fixes this. I can see steve being banned in tournaments. GUARANTEED. Edit: I do wanna add this before people start replying, this isnt a hate comment on Steve. I love Steve and playing as him. THIS is the only thing I don't like. Cause it's broken.
For everyone who don't get the right block placement for the punish, you can hang on the legde, jump upwards from the legde only once, then flick the control stick slightly back and then you can time your block placement way better.
I like how Joker’s response is “whAT”
It's cause he finally has someone on his tier Steve all ready looking high tier and shown by this video we're just scratching the surface of his tricks
That was my response too
I feel like that's the only truly appropriate response to this setup.
Steve been out for like 3 days and he is looking crazier than in the direct
Steve’s been out for three days and he’s already giving me multiple diseases
Steve’s been out for 3 days and he’s already making heavies cry.
We know more nowadays, more techs and more everything, is now easy to exploit the characters.
@With The sauce HOW SO? cause based on what little ive seen hes dumb busted. like beats everything busted especaly shield or posible counters
Please delete this video before the Steves find out about this, I beg of you.
Too late I’ve sent this to 6 ppl
There's no escape
The damage has been dealt, there is no turning back.
What is my next line Joseph jostar?
*steve*: YOU WILL SUFFER!!!
Reaction :
"Oh cool he has a very nice shield break, wonder what's his best punish is..."
*see grab at 0% offstage*
"Oh that's cool he has a suicide grab at any %"
*see Steve making it back to the ledge*
"God saves us..."
I am gonna feel bad if I do that to anybody in tourney
don't forget, he also has sideways ganon fsmash (no seriously, diamond sword fsmash kills at like 30% at the ledge, it's busted)
God can't save you now.
@@versenh.1982 My God. Mario's f-air, Ganon's f-smash, Villager's f-smash as a d-air....
useraccount333 u forgot inklings roller jump and brawl glide
footstool seems easier with steve since his shorthop is already low so these setups are prob more practical than other footstool ones.
Yeah I've noticed!
Dear lord... More footstools yay >_>
Shorthop being so low wouldn’t matter because you can idj but I see what you’re saying
@@maxlibertor It is easier that’s the point.
@@baked7423 what
Joker's "What?" when he gets ko'd was my reaction too
What a beautiful duwang
@@xrpmxwix7932 *chew*
He never saw it coming
DEAR GOD HE’S ONLY BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR LIKE TWO DAYS
You think that's something wait until next year's steve discoveries
People be impatient.
@@darius8715 lmao as a Steve main I can agree shit got bullshit crazy
@@plusah1268 yup 🤣
I'M SCHLEEP
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Thumbnail is godlike
This shieldbreak is hilarious
Thank you for the Information as Usual 👍
hi schleep im dad
Today on the Hydraulic Press channel, Joker’s shield.
*BA-BA-CRASH*
STOOOOP!🤣
I’d love this to be nicknamed Hydraulic Press
I don’t know why I found this so funny...
"I played Steve for 3 days and this is what I got"
This is now called: "The ACME"
I like that lol
The Wiley Coyote
Hydraulic Press?
The shield break or that down air grab? 🤔
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This works with Kirby’s minecraft block copy ability with Stone. An advantage that Kirby has is that he doesn’t have to worry about spacing around the center of the block, it works everywhere. Sadly, stone cannot hit the falling and landing hitbox no matter what, but you can still hit the falling hitbox twice. This doesn’t break a full shield instantly, but it can break a ~95% shield.
too bad block is one of the few copy abiluties unaffected by Kirby's Copy Damage Buff
@@JJSquirtle I guess? I mean it doesn’t deal damage so I’m not sure what the 1.2* damage could apply to.
Fun fact about the copy: Steve has an inventory size of 100 (excluding redstone), while Kirby only has 20. This is to compensate for the fact that Kirby has infinite tools and only uses materials for blocks, unlike Steve.
@@JJSquirtle i had no idea kirby's copy move had a dmg buff o.0
you're telling me his falcon punches are stronger than the original?
@@givemeoats I think it’s actually faster, too. Unfortunately, it takes more than one hand to count the times I’ve been Kirby Punch’d
Sakurai be like "uh oh back to the office again, let's patch! Back to the office again"
I think when most people saw his blocks they immediately thought he was going to be top tier I don't think they expected stupidly overpowered combos like this
No one could’ve predicted that you could grab an opponent while falling on top of your anvil. The future of Steve is going to be very interesting...
@@DesTr069 While OP, he at least looks way more interesting than Bayonetta. _PTSD flashbacks_
@@Darches oh yeah, 100% agreed
@@Darches He's op, but at least each Steve player has their own OP gimmick. That's how I would sum it up.
This isn’t stupidly overpowered.... it’s really good but he’s not top 5 probably top 20 at best
I would call this skillful bullying tbh
True
It'll be patched. Its just too broken.
In Minecraft culture this is reffered to as "griefing"
@@Dig_Duke_SFM Seeing the last few patches I guarantee you they won’t nerf him and will instead buff him slightly
@@gbx4858 I mean I’m honestly happy that they aren’t nerfing the top tiers... as long as a character isn’t game breaking *Sm4sh Bayo and Brawl Mk Flashbacks* they shouldn’t really get crazy nerfs! People need to learn how to deal with stuff and I’m happy to see that after 3.1.0 the dev teams design Philosophy has changed to buffing weaker characters and giving top tiers fixes not buffs like Pikachu in this patch who only got a small Forward air fix
Imagine if we referred to other characters as "video game character"
Final Fantasy Cloud
Metal Gear Solid Snake
Bayonetta Bayonetta
Mario Tennis Daisy
Castlevania Simon
Donkey Kong King K. Rool
Kirby King Dedede
Metroid Samus
Pacman Pacman
Pokémon Pokémon trainer
Super Mario Mario Mario
@Student Rohan Joshi agree, though they train pokémons x)
To me it felt like "trainer" is a shortcut for Pokémon trainer, but what do I know
It's because his name is Steve
@@dairhat mario luigi mario xD
initially while typing this comment I put in mario mario mario but it sounded exaggerated lol
Like starfox fox mccloud (last names aren't included in smash) but yeah it's funny
@@YounesLayachi luigi's mansion luigi mario
MAN
It’s actually insane
Woman.
MANN
Also make sure this makes it into "How 2 Steve"
You know Yahi’s making a Steve video after that Pacman one. I hope. :)
Every time there’s a new character released I just think “uh oh”
back to the lab again
well, technically a 1 frame gap is still enough for some characters to escape (bayo rolls and mac up b specifically)
Mac up b isnt frame 1, and he doesn't go that far.
@@researchinbreeder isn't Mac grounded up b invincible frame 1 ?
@@YounesLayachi is it? If so, then srry. But even if it is, you're still being hit by the anvil, and most Mac players prefer up-smash OOS so they aren't used to up-bing
Yeah Mac up b is intangible frame 1 and the hitbox is frame 3.
Also Lucina and Marth.
Hahahah jokes on you guys!
This doesn't work on me as a jigglypuff main, because I just die if my shield breaks :)
So nothing changed gor you then
I'm leaving this for the rest
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Are you okay? You've just had an anvil dropped on your head! More like, 'back to the hospital' oh my.
An anvil dropped twice in one instance
Steve: haha anvil haha fishing rod, brrrrrr
Joker: WHAT?
Me: W H A T
I appreciate how thorough and concise the video's information is delivered. Top quality stuff GimR, cheers lad.
Thank you! I worked really hard on this one. Appreciate that!
For recovering with the elytra, would recommend trying to airdodge out of it to get better ledge grab range. This could potenially make it easier to recover from the grab 0 to death. This could potentially make it so doing the trick, but double jumping outwards, minecarting in, jumping backwards out of that, and doing a normal elytra plus the extended grab via airdodging to cancel elytra for more grab range, for a easier tech?
An. Actual 0 to death where the percent Stays at 0... GOD HELP US ALL
Whoa you're right, technically you're at 0% right before you die
wait, doesn't that mean you'd lose 2 stocks in elite smash if someone somehow pulled it off first thing?
Yessir
@@Red_Bastion no bcs the throw of the grab deals damage
0:18 I love how Joker says “WHAT” as he gets dragged down into hell
this seems cool and all, but what about get up attack?
Only viable as Banjo and you need to pull off 15 frame-perfect inputs. But if you do it perfectly you can deal like 11%.
Was looking for this.
I needs more likes
What just happens if your enemy doesnt use the shield 50 percent of the time
Stale meme
@@darkkirbygod 50 percent success
I had a thought that they might "nerf" the blocks by making the hurtbox on them bigger so more attacks would break them instead of harmlessly bouncing off (Which can make them seriously suck to deal with for some characters), but that would actually make the shield break set-up easier if it meant you no longer had to hit the center of the block for a quick break.
If blocks are too strong, Steve can seriously wall people out offstage. If they're too weak, he does this.
Steve wins the nerf hammer matchup.
@@DrSwazz so its literally impossible to nerf steves blocks lol
@@OBB004 Well, I guess they could increase the amount of time it takes him to spawn one.
You guys are thinking way too hard about potential nerfs. If this proves too good, they just nerf the shield damage of the anvil. They did the same thing to Samus' charge shot and missiles, quite a while back.
@@Nwordsoup There aren't many instant shield breaks in the game and it would be interesting to have more. Lucina's neutral B is usually just to scare you if it lands; if it could have broken your shield, you'd probably be taking the hit instead
a bit of steve up-b knowledge: if you cancel the elytra with attack/dodge right at the peak steves legs will face upwards also shifting the hitbox for the ledge grab a bit, making this instakill setup not very hard to survive
I think the minecart might have an unblockable setup too. If you hit a shield you can jump out immediately to grab them with the cart. This forces them to choose an option. I haven't tested this thoroughly but I think rolling wouldn't give invincibility soon enough, and I tried jumping and the cart still hit me. That just leaves spot dodging, which I think works but if Steve can cover that option with something else then boom, unblockable set up.
It can be spot dodged
@@lududelubin3011 it's a 50/50 then
"if Steve can cover that option with something else"
Easy, place a tnt since it can blow up just from the minecart hitting it. lol
I find it absolutely hilarious how broken this is, I hope it doesn't get patched
Steve is the first character where I’ve found footstool out of shield/parry to be actually applicable in a match. If someone misspaces an aerial at like 90-100% they’re just dead with footstool anvil OOS. It’s nuts.
I like how GimR's videos respect my time. No fluff, only information.
Frame one uninstall
You do get that one frame to act before your shield breaks, so this is actually a universal counter to the strat.
@@Chillaxorita suffer the 32% or the 0 to death. choose wisely :)
@@kachosuffer7 I raise you multiparry > punish the steve. the 1 frame vulnerability should make it very easy to get parry #1 if you're ready for it.
@@JJSquirtle good luck
@@kachosuffer7 0 to death so I can get out of hell faster, easy choice
Well we knew he was broken, but to this extent?
Holy crap
5:21 you could also try jumping and down bing out of minecart because then you can minecart again
Good to know
but that would mean you need more Iron though (I mean if you have a lot of material it's optimal)
@@Fujinondesu better than not recovering 😆 it costs 1 iron per minecart and no iron per TNT
There's a tech where if you flick the stick downwards after activating the elytra it gives you like 50% more height. Unsure if this is a bug or not right now though
@@dragoxphere3341 wow, any videos or links to demonstrate this ?
5:55 Oh God oh no GIMR watch out!
He can't hear us, he has headphones on!
Dude it was so fun to be on stream with you when you found this out. You are doing a gods work out there. Good stuff!
Thanks! It was fun learning it with y'all!
I swear this characters potential to be insane is just being discovered.
You don’t need to reverse up b to get back to the ledge. You can just up b facing the ledge and press airdodge the moment u reach the highest point, which would allow the ledge magnet to suck u in. (Or you can spam the airdodge button as up b only reads the airdodge after it gets to the highest point)
I've seen enough, time to sleep.
It was time for Sir shmooth to leave, he had seen everything.
Always glad to see you making this kind of content. Every time there’s a new patch, I look forward to your videos, the obvious choice for the best new data on characters. Keep it up, bro!
How can this man say “Steve mains” without dying of laughter?
Eventually people will main Joe
@@pablopereyra7126... ( -_-)
Who's Joe?
@@whatdown5291 Joe mama
@@genikeyssaryalcantarabelli7430
Oh no, jeepers. I have been had by the most classic trick in the book.
Whatever shall I do to forget this oh somber day?
@@whatdown5291 Amnosia
Ok, there's actually ANOTHER insta shield break. If you place down a block of tnt and down smash, it'll break shields as well.
All those diamond and gold carrying in his pocket sure made Steve like a beast in smash ultimate lol
You can place a tnt off stage to get a little extra height while recovering too
This is truly terrifying
To recover from the kill setup you can also do buffered double jump into minecart-buffered jump, down b which resets Minecart and then another minecart buffered jump to reach stage more reliably
Interesting...
Since Steve has so many things that we would consider wonky, there’s no way that all of Steve’s uniqueness will be patched out in the future. To fix this one, they could make it so that the victim is also air released out of the grab which would allow some characters to live. Show ‘em whatchu got, Mac baby 😭
Little Mac, more like Little Chad who doesn't need armor in Smash Attacks, but better air movement
This doesn’t work on big characters like donkey kong because they will get hit by the anvil when you grab them, apart from that, this is amazing!
holy shit you found the holy grail! Something that *doesn't* work on DK!?
@@JJSquirtle he’ll probably get stage spiked though.
fully charged diamond f smash at the ledge should be good at most percents.
Jesus christ. I soon as I played this character I knew anvil and mine cart were gonna be broken
Cloud:Limits were ment to be broken
Steve:Ha,that's cute
First nerf:
Anvil no longer damages blocks.
Grab no longer works while standing on a falling anvil.
Calling it right now.
I hate to agree here, but this 100% will happen. Ultimate could be such a sick game if Nintendo didn't patch out all of the cool shit people find. I wanna like it so much but I haven't touched my switch in months.
@@mac_sour I hate to agree too. lol
I've played nothing but Steve since he came out and I don't want these nerfs, but this combo is so far from how he was intended to be played, there's no way it doesn't get patched.
I think a more balanced option would be making anvil deal more damage the further it falls. That's what happens in the source game, and it nerfs the shieldbreak in this video.
@@wispyspectre5128 i think that would encourage little cousin in 2006 kirby downb lol
To be honest, Hero have the most jankiest Down B in the entire roster (Even an Instant Kill and self-destruct), so why would Steve be nerfed already?
Coolest, most exciting tech I've seen in smash ultimate. Gimr is a national treasure
After this you place blocks in “L” to show the ultimate disrespect
Man can’t wait to see live tournaments again seeing the meta grow with these crazy new mechanics
So it's official. Minecraft mechanics have broke smash
By the way, the music that starts after the combo is called Simian Seuge, from Donkey Kong Country.
When you remove fall damage from a character they become much stronger.
I want to know who you are playing because I swear "most people" don't shield in disadvantage . Most people I've played, especially online, mash attack buttons out of disadvantage.
*At higher levels
because online players are smoothbrain mashers
Keyword: online.
You are talking about smoothbrain people who only thinks of B button
@@hahalery lol I was just making a joke, but to be fair I've been to tournaments and even Evo and there are still button Mashers in the 1st couple of rounds. It isn't until you get further in the bracket that you run into good players. So online isn't the only place it happens.
Like one time in round 1 of a bracket I had to fight a Yoshi and I just stood there for like 15 seconds and the Yoshi player literally forward smash the air 3-5 times in a row.
Steve: That’s a real nice Shield you got there. It’d be a shame for...
...something to happen to it.
*Shines Anvil*
His head looks so smooth
I had someone try this on me in elite smash today. He messed it up, but he also put the fear of God in me.
He won that stock in spirit lol
Glad to know that GIMR sleeps as little as I do.
Thank you for showing us the combo 6 seconds in instead of half way through the video. I appreciate it.
I simultaneously hate everything I saw and also love every second of this video.
GimR you can grab the ledge from much father below it by pressing air dodge when below the ledge to unequip the wings. Doing this will allow Steve to grab the ledge from MUCH farther below the ledge. It’s a significant difference. I found this out yesterday when I was playing.
Online Steves already kinda doing that junk. So wild.
Steve's cool but I'm salty that Sakurai made Steve's down air 10x better than Kirby's Down B 😣
Sakurais gotta do what he’s gotta do to cop that fighters pass money
Steve’s down air costs iron, I guess
@@riverross Bro, there are easy setups that Steve has that can make him mine Iron easily like mining on his OWN Tnt block. Costing Iron is super easy, barely an inconvenience for Steve. XD
If you copy Steve you probably could do the shield break with Kirby
Just say "mad", if you're truly salty then what a toxic boi
That shield break sound is so terrifying and satisfying at the same time
Steve is fun but a bit of a case of DLC privilege.
Anyone noticed the weirdly janky dance that he does when your right at the ledge and repeatedly crouch?
This character just keeps getting scarier
All I'm gonna say is that Steve is just plain big brain clone of Pac-Man and I love it!
Pac-Man players: Finally, a big brain opponent! Our battle will be mathematically legendary!!!
@@AUTTY6242 more like small brain
@@AUTTY6242 rip pacman mains
Thank you. I can now make my opponents scream in confusion.
That is scary 0:17
Idk if this is even worth mentioning but, I was playing around as steve against bowser, and I figured out that if you do the weird glitched short hop back air thing, and then a landing nair, and then turnaround and repeat, it goes on for awhile. Obviously its not an infinite but I think it could lead to some cool setups
Steve's gonna kill ultimate...
The online + corona already did that
@@talhaahmed2130 sad but true
I think he fits right in with the rest of the broken cast. jus buff the weak characters so they can also be broken and that will balance the game
@@PotentialThall I'm down for a brawl minus, but I also sold my switch so
@@ladyshapeshifter2327 damn , but I really do feel like ultimate is the best smash. it can be frustrating but it's got so much content
it scares me that Minecraft Steve has currently 3 zero to deaths plus a shield break setup
goooood shit man. was trying it and you can use the press A/R "airdodge" boost trick to reach the ledge without the minecart btw
could you explain further
@@GimR not exactly sure what frame you need to press it at but basically if you spam a or shield when finishing your up b, you get a slight boost in the direction you were going (diagonal-upwards in this case), like a nerfed airdodge towards the stage. Using that i managed to grab ledge in fd after your anvil grab confirm without using cart, but only ONCE lol (edit: found the trickfor this one but its still risky, explained in my other reply), its really tight, prolly needs a frame perfect jump on perfect angle and perfect "airdodge" which ive got no clue how to control well. However u can still skip cart using cheap mats instead by doing TNT after popping up from anvil, dj, up b towards ledge, A spam, way easier cheap method. Now if you wanna go VERY safe and dont care for wasting both cheap mats and steel, do TNT after anvil pop up, cart, jump out of cart asap, dj, up b, the whole combo reaches ledge with a TON of leeway, specially considering you can still a spam if you manage to fuck it up lol, so in a high stakes match if i have the mats id always go for it.
Another thing: in fd at least, you can just fh diagonally to reach a working block+anvil grab position, no need for the idj or drifting back towards stage so kinda easier, and faster too so it could work to catch someone chasing you to ledge (then holding shield or w/e) off guard.
Edit: on 2nd thoughts after a bit more labbing, i might just use the solo tnt-dj-upb-spam A even in high stakes situations, since the inputs are very easy, and dont require any very precise angles/timings, can just buffer/spam and they reach anyways lol, already getting it 100% consistent, so deffo the most cost efficient riskless recovery for this setup assuming you have the dirt blocks and prioritize saving steel for neutral carts
@@GimR (continuatoon to my other comment) ok found the trick to get more consistent with the material-less (no cart no tnt) recovery: it needs an fthrow as the "dont mash out" throw to get the piston pop up that closes the gap enough for A spam to reach. Gotta do it not too early (or you get killed lol) and not too late or you dont get the pop up, so still kinda risky and id still go for the fully consistent tnt only recovery if i have the dirt mats, but good to have in the arsenal in case i find the setup but im low on mats lol
@@GimR ok now with the new "hold up tap down" up b extension wasting mats is not necessary at all, you insta reach ledge very easy with it. However, mixed with A tap and tnt + cart you can also reach ledge on a WHIFFED grab suicide!!!! That makes it viable as just a stalling pressure option on neutral/disadvantage, no risk other that wasting mats from using the move on a mobile target!!!
Honestly, I didn't see where that ledge setup was going. Until it started going down.
And I thought Byleth was the best at breaking shields.
1:41 me who only plays jigglypuff and can almost always hit a rest.
Steve: OH HO HO YOUR APPROACHING ME? DESPITE THE FACT THAT I CAN KILL YOU INSTANTLY YOU CHOSE TO GET CLOSER?
Inkling with 1 life left: I can't beat the shit out of you without getting clo-
Announcer: GAME
I mean they gone patch this next patch but that's gonna be a while lol.
They can patch this, but I bet there will always be ridiculous jank with this character just because of the technical block shit.
You would think Min Min would be nerfed, but nope
@@tonypizzapasta9960 Min Min? more like Min Meh. She's laggy enough and has poor enough vertical range that it isn't hard to get into optimal range.
@@JJSquirtle yea it’s just I dislike how cheap she is
I'm sure someone already knows this, but because blocks break faster on the pink barrier,
placing a block on the barrier and then down smash immediately breaks the block and there is zero end lag. It's just another off stage option, though it is hard to reliably place a block on the pink barrier. Food for experimenting I guess.
Lmao this is hilarious. I'm so glad we got a wacky broken character rather than an oppressive boring one like Smash 4 Bayo
I mean, maybe. Steve at top level is probably going to be very campy when played optimally. So we'll see.
But yea, he def wont be as bad as S4 bayo, she was a nightmare.
Not exactly broken,he still struggles with no resources.
And fast characters will be a pain.
@@ahmadkazan7994 I'm sure offline will be a different story too, but it'll be a while until we can see what Steve really looks like in a tournament setting. He seems like a great addition though!
@@ahmadkazan7994 Steve should never have 0 resources. He spawns with a half full inventory, he always respawns with at least 3 iron, mining is very fast, he has many ways to camp and stall against most of the cast, and he keeps his inventory on death.
Steve should NOT be running out of resources unless you are getting heavily outplayed. Every time he throws you off stage or gets hit away, he has time to mine.
AND YES, steve CAN mine in disadvantage with things like block place > TnT drop, you can mine the TnT on top of the block without the block breaking quickly. Thats like 3-6 seconds to mine materials in disadvantage every block place you do depending on the material of the block.
Steve has plenty of ways to get resources. he should NOT be running out.
@@dave9515 meta knight dittos were the only fun thing to watch as a spectator in brawl imo, so i disagree, but we'll see.
u can also replace the grab with a shield or a smash attack or mine the anvil while falling
As a puff main I have to say this shield break punish simply wont work for her. Sill the fact that you have this optimal punish that works for everyone else is cool ig, but the punish after a shield break just doesnt work on puff.
LOOOL
See? when our meta is inevitably overrun by Steve, Puff mains will be laughing in the distance
@@DrSwazz Bro it was a joke. The shield break itself kills jigglypuff at zero. Also, what I said is probably not technically wrong tho; if steve somehow lands the setup on puff, she of all characters would be the one to make it back if the steve player doesnt do it perfectly. If anything, we are crying in balloon that we can die at zero.
@@engranger_ssbu I knew puff died at zero, I just thought you tested it and found that she had more frames to escape cause she was floaty or something, idk. Either way good stuff
If they patch this all they need to do is make it so anvil either does less damage/shield damage, or make it so you can't get two hitboxes. I'd also want that punish gone, maybe Steve should not be able to grab while on an anvil...
There's a smell in the air. It smells like a weird purple bat ball thing, and an umbra witch. It gets stronger by the day. I'm scared.
smash 4 flashbacks with bayo, but now it's 2021. full of steve mains just aiming for this insane 0 to death setup
Thumbs up just for that dexter's lab throwback at the end!
Clearly you're new here lol
I havent seen anyone mention this yet, and its not directly related but you can totally hide Steve's TNT if its already placed, blocks will just cover it as if it isn't even there! It shares the same space as if it is your crafting table (also all 3 can occupy the same space so maybe steve is actually operating in 4d and we are all 3d peasants) . Steve now laughs at Snake's 'stealthy' c4
R.I.P
Was it patched or no??
no
Steve is going to be one of those matchups that is either braindead or genius level, and you don't know which your opponent is until you play.
It'll be patched in the next patch don't worry. This is not skill this just broken.
IF NINTENDO never fixes this. I can see steve being banned in tournaments. GUARANTEED.
Edit: I do wanna add this before people start replying, this isnt a hate comment on Steve. I love Steve and playing as him. THIS is the only thing I don't like. Cause it's broken.
Steve is probably the most fast paced technical character that this game will probably see for a long while
I love Steve, this guy has so much going for him
For the love of god I dread the day we find out that Steve is smash 4 bayo all over again
now steve feels like a pay for character, my god
For everyone who don't get the right block placement for the punish, you can hang on the legde, jump upwards from the legde only once, then flick the control stick slightly back and then you can time your block placement way better.
Basically, we're about to warp 10,998, 700 years ahead in civilization.