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  • Mike Florio and Chris Simms open up the mailbag to field questions on Mike Vrabel’s hire by the Browns, which situations are most concerning for a top QB to be drafted to and more. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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  • @craigburgess7105
    @craigburgess7105 Місяць тому +21

    Worst spots have to be Washington and New England

    • @pauliej345
      @pauliej345 Місяць тому

      Yeah I agree but Raiders def there too. Inwould even argue Denver isn't ideal right now and who knows when it will be

    • @mannyescobar5470
      @mannyescobar5470 Місяць тому

      @@pauliej345broncos have one of the worst rosters in the league. If the raiders defense can play top 5 like they did when AP took over, they’re one of the better spots to land if you’re a qb

    • @samuelsandate9804
      @samuelsandate9804 Місяць тому

      ​@@mannyescobar5470Raiders are 🗑️🗑️🗑️. They've been a dysfunctional team for a long time and that won't change anytime soon.

    • @trey740
      @trey740 20 днів тому +1

      washington is a good spot wym

  • @brianpraxaya8671
    @brianpraxaya8671 Місяць тому +8

    Only a Viking fan would sound the Gjallarhorn in the middle of a show 😂

  • @TylerAnderson-xl6hb
    @TylerAnderson-xl6hb Місяць тому +12

    Vikings are the best situation for any qb

    • @tnshsd3526
      @tnshsd3526 Місяць тому

      Pittsburgh the steelers of beacons of hope

  • @babybison2881
    @babybison2881 Місяць тому +12

    Whoever goes to NE is screwed

  • @ianross806
    @ianross806 Місяць тому +13

    Alex Van Pelt was a QB. Threw a football for a living. Compared to previous Pats OCs, this should be an upgrade.

    • @myshepspud1
      @myshepspud1 Місяць тому

      Any relation to the mentalist lady? ;)

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Місяць тому +1

      As much as it is fun to clown on Josh McDaniels as a head coach (and he deserves it), he worked well with Brady and they achieved some championships together. I wouldn't lump him in with Matt Patricia.

    • @franciscyr2471
      @franciscyr2471 Місяць тому

      With changes in philosophy at least he has experience in the system. ie Patricia & Judge had no clue

    • @tenakakhan187
      @tenakakhan187 Місяць тому

      We only let AVP go cause his scheme is old and predictable. Good coach through and through though.

    • @youngpower24
      @youngpower24 Місяць тому

      @@johnchedsey1306 true. He also never had the benefit of a top three pick like the Pats do now.

  • @Captain_Raider
    @Captain_Raider Місяць тому +22

    The Jakobi Meyers’s disrespect is crazy! Solid WR2 ! Plus Tre Tucker & Michael Mayer are young studs, set to take a major leap going into their 2nd year! I get the concern for RB, but I believe we’ll utilize all three RBs throughout each game, instead of relying on 1 RB as we did the past seasons with Josh Jacobs! But don’t get it confused, Zamir White will be RB1 ! Plus our defense will be a top 10 defense easily! 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

    • @jgs1703
      @jgs1703 Місяць тому +8

      Jakobi Meyers is a really good receiver. The qb play last year was bad.

    • @Captain_Raider
      @Captain_Raider Місяць тому +3

      @@jgs1703 hopefully we see some improvement this upcoming season. Can’t be having having scoreless losses like that Vikings game lol

    • @jgs1703
      @jgs1703 Місяць тому +3

      @@Captain_Raider I hope Raiders draft Penix. I think he is the real deal.

    • @chazbrown5800
      @chazbrown5800 Місяць тому +6

      Not even a LV fan but this is facts! Should’ve kept Renfrow.

    • @LuvtheJEm
      @LuvtheJEm Місяць тому

      @@jgs1703 Only thing I don't like about him is his extensive injury history.

  • @jeremiah1993
    @jeremiah1993 Місяць тому +1

    Florio, the same guy who says Csm Newton wouldn't work as a QB2 because he has "enormous presence" just laughed down the same idea regarding Vrabel because "it's football, there is a physical vibe to it, that's just how football is"😂😂😂

  • @kangZ_94
    @kangZ_94 Місяць тому +7

    Bro the Raiders aren’t in a rebuilding phase stop with the nonsense

    • @73ajd1
      @73ajd1 Місяць тому +3

      They should be

    • @JordanPapaCorral
      @JordanPapaCorral Місяць тому +2

      @@73ajd1you don’t know football. They are not or shouldn’t be in a rebuild.
      Vikings trash,
      NE trash
      Washington trash
      Broncos trash
      Bears meh

    • @tonyrogo227
      @tonyrogo227 Місяць тому

      ​@@JordanPapaCorraland the Raiders aren't ?!? Lol
      The raiders are a joke. They're Not going anywhere this season.

    • @Mercenarymn
      @Mercenarymn Місяць тому +1

      And what makes you say they're not? They don't have a QB, run-game, or offensive line. They can't win games without the other team making a bunch of mistakes. They're nowhere near a super bowl contending team. You're 100% delusional if you think just because the Raiders have Davante Adams that they're somehow a playoff team.

    • @Mercenarymn
      @Mercenarymn Місяць тому

      ​@JordanPapaCorral you proved nothing. You just gave your opinion. Try again.

  • @mykofreder1682
    @mykofreder1682 Місяць тому +5

    I do not consider Daboll a lock of being the Giants coach in 4 years, he just has to be drafting at this position of drafting 6 again will get him fired. He might get a pass if a rookie starts most of the games and looks good, but drafting 6 probably means the guy the drafted or the team did not look so good. The Steelers are once again in Picket territory for a QB, in particular if he is the 5th or 6th taken, because they just used a pick on a QB, they pick well otherwise or they wouldn't be consistently good, they will not use this pick on a QB.

    • @misinfluence
      @misinfluence Місяць тому +1

      Blame Schoen for missing out on two top 10 picks in Kayvon and Neal

    • @cameronbolden5064
      @cameronbolden5064 Місяць тому

      a rookie can look good and you can still pick high it happens with most qbs especially since they don't have any great skill positions or top line defensive players

  • @freedomrulesjavier3904
    @freedomrulesjavier3904 Місяць тому

    I'd like to see ranking of OC coordinators and QB coaches....and the reasons why. Maybe do it in a series to keep the youtube clip under 20 minutes.

  • @simonevans5562
    @simonevans5562 Місяць тому

    2:50 perfect question

  • @kelvinsekwati4016
    @kelvinsekwati4016 Місяць тому +17

    Man devante could've been catching passes from Jordan love in the playoffs

    • @jgs1703
      @jgs1703 Місяць тому

      Yeah if only the packers would go all in for once.

    • @ttttggggg636
      @ttttggggg636 Місяць тому +2

      PACKERS COULD'VE RESIGNED HIM THE YEAR BEFORE HE LEFT

    • @christr1ut87
      @christr1ut87 Місяць тому

      Jordan Love sucks. He had one of the luckiest seasons in history and 2024 is going to expose him for the sub-average QB that he is.

    • @Mercenarymn
      @Mercenarymn Місяць тому

      I wish he would have been and I'm a Raiders fan.

  • @user-iq6cc3df3l
    @user-iq6cc3df3l Місяць тому +3

    I think Florio is right about the 49ers. Brock Purdy is pretty underrated and if you look at his overall skillset he should be the starter for a decade, assuming he stays healthy. Not the strongest arm, not the quickest release. But he usually throws on-time-and-on-target and his ball placement is really good. If it wasn’t he’d get picked because he can’t really drill it like Mahomes. But it’s funny because Brock’s dad is a huge Marino fan supposedly and Brock is playing for the team that beat Danny Boy in the Super Bowl. But I think what sets Brock apart: his brain. I guess he scored really high on some test, probably not the Wonderlic as I think the NFL dumped it.

    • @jamesswanson4391
      @jamesswanson4391 Місяць тому +1

      Plus his anticipation is otherworldly, making up for the arm un-talent

    • @bigfootwalker5399
      @bigfootwalker5399 Місяць тому +2

      Purdy's a pumpkin without CMC 🎃

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Місяць тому +1

      I'm a Seattle fan who despises SF but I agree: Purdy is a very good fit for that offense. And he's only going into season #3 so he still has room to refine his game. I don't agree with any Purdy disrespect, even if I want him to fail miserably as a division rival.

  • @kacornish1
    @kacornish1 Місяць тому +4

    Sims just said a QB shouldn’t want to go to the Raiders because they don’t have great weapons at wide receiver… What a stupid comment.

    • @chiefw3573
      @chiefw3573 Місяць тому +1

      They only have Adam’s who is 31….

    • @KamuiCage
      @KamuiCage Місяць тому

      @@chiefw3573 Raiders have Adams,Meyers ,and 2nd year guys Tucker and Mayer,, Thats better than The Vikings, Pats, and Broncos

    • @cl9279
      @cl9279 Місяць тому +2

      @@KamuiCagebetter than the Vikings 😂😂😂

    • @djstewart5409
      @djstewart5409 Місяць тому +1

      What receivers do the patriots have? That should’ve really been the obvious answer

  • @MadSUPANOVA
    @MadSUPANOVA Місяць тому

    To clarify I yapped Justin Field is Mariotta 2.0 ... currently at back up fill in status BUT WITH MORE OBSERVATION OF A VET LUKE LOVE IN GREENBAY.. HE SHOULD GET BETTER UNDER VET RUSS.. nut he only has 1 season to learn or he will be a backup

  • @pigeon_farmboy2364
    @pigeon_farmboy2364 Місяць тому +1

    Whoever the pats draft is not starting this year, calm down Sims...

  • @RaiderRambo99
    @RaiderRambo99 Місяць тому

    And chris was so confused why Maxx checked his ass 😂

  • @edwarddickson7731
    @edwarddickson7731 Місяць тому +3

    Jimmy Haslam and the Clowns are stupid enough to do anything including replacing their head coach. Look at the Deshaun Watson contract. And the Jeudy contract. And signing Devin Bus 🤡 .

  • @adamn.1294
    @adamn.1294 Місяць тому

    Haven't we seen that OCs in great situations are willing to stay with their team instead of leaving for an HC job? Bieniemy, Josh McDaniels, Ben Johnson... I would bet Shane Waldron stays with the Bears if Caleb Williams takes them deep in the playoffs in the next two years.

  • @seanobrien9311
    @seanobrien9311 Місяць тому

    Russell played well before all the Payton drama

  • @jessefletcher2736
    @jessefletcher2736 Місяць тому +1

    If daniels goes to vikings he will be this years cj stroud . They have the best team for a rookie qb to go to of the teams who need qbs

    • @seanobrien9311
      @seanobrien9311 Місяць тому

      I don't see any way they don't offer 11, 23 and '25 1st for NE pick. Can't see how NE turns that down either.

  • @saulito4554
    @saulito4554 Місяць тому +3

    Raiders?!?!?!?! Lmao f*** Simms always hates

    • @JordanPapaCorral
      @JordanPapaCorral Місяць тому +3

      He’s a clown. How are the raiders the worst team to go to? Makes ZERO SENSE

    • @saulito4554
      @saulito4554 Місяць тому +2

      @@JordanPapaCorral he even said we have no weapons 🤣🤣 Adams, Meyers, Tucker, Mayer. But no weapons right lol

  • @djsteink
    @djsteink Місяць тому

    I'd even zoom from the whole defensive coach bit and think, as a top QB, I'd want to avoid dysfunctional organizations (i.e., Chicago and Washington).

  • @cit96AdizeroVapor
    @cit96AdizeroVapor Місяць тому

    The question about the Steelers signing those two QBs. We know there’s the potential for high upside from either of them. If Russ is comfortable in the offense, he could return to at least a lower Pro Bowl level QB. Fields could still develop into a true franchise guy.

  • @tnshsd3526
    @tnshsd3526 Місяць тому

    Pittsburgh Steelers of beacons of hope

  • @izzy1400b
    @izzy1400b Місяць тому +5

    To want to go to Commanders over Raiders is crazy🥴🥴

    • @Saucelight88
      @Saucelight88 Місяць тому +1

      Things can change commanders have a new regime right now

    • @adamsgaming6265
      @adamsgaming6265 Місяць тому +1

      Who do the raiders have besides Adams?

    • @izzy1400b
      @izzy1400b Місяць тому +2

      @@Saucelight88 as do the raiders and if you put the roster side to side raiders is far more better then the commanders

    • @izzy1400b
      @izzy1400b Місяць тому +1

      @@adamsgaming6265 Jakobi mayers ,tre tucker , Michael Mayer, and zeus

    • @tonyrogo227
      @tonyrogo227 Місяць тому +1

      Raiders keep dropping a load in their pants EVERY season.

  • @djstewart5409
    @djstewart5409 Місяць тому

    New England has the worst offensive situation by far. I don’t know why they didn’t mean them first but they mentioned the raiders 😵‍💫

  • @matthewmatt5285
    @matthewmatt5285 Місяць тому +2

    Washington is the Team I wouldn't wanna go,.
    They don't even know who their Mascot will be next yr and they have zero talent on the team~

    • @KamuiCage
      @KamuiCage Місяць тому

      They are the Commanders They already said thats not changing

  • @DaChronfo20
    @DaChronfo20 Місяць тому +1

    How you gonna mention Devante Adam’s and say the raiders don’t have wrs in the same breath. Haters gonna hate I guess

    • @tonyrogo227
      @tonyrogo227 Місяць тому

      Raider fans gonna dream...😂

  • @ramon6567
    @ramon6567 Місяць тому +6

    These guys really do hate the raiders

    • @cain6981
      @cain6981 Місяць тому +2

      Florio definitely does.. usually Simms has been fair.. Florio slowly corrupting him lol

    • @tonyrogo227
      @tonyrogo227 Місяць тому +1

      Raiders suck every year . They're almost as bad as the bears.

  • @chazbrown5800
    @chazbrown5800 Місяць тому

    Florio is such a goof, he names QB’s/coaches that aren’t even close to a top 10 pick outside of Minn but they’re making moves to get in this spot.

  • @user-iq6cc3df3l
    @user-iq6cc3df3l Місяць тому +1

    Even though I used to be a Vikings fan like Florio but dumped them like a psycho girlfriend over a decade ago, I think if I were a rookie QB I’d want to go to Minnesota. Sam Darnold ain’t it so he wouldn’t be much competition. So the Vikings job would be mine for the taking. And throwing to Justin Jefferson? Dream come true for any QB I’m guessing. The Bears? I’m more bearish on Chicago stock than Jonathon Hoening eating fried chicken while discussing investment opportunities during a major downturn. (Jonathon used to be on a show called “Cashing In” a long time ago, with the guy from “MASH.” It was really funny watching those two yell at each other. But Jonathon is pretty funny.)

    • @bobbykiriakidis9753
      @bobbykiriakidis9753 Місяць тому

      Nobody who is a true passionate fan just gives up and adopts another team. I could not do something like that. It would be artificial to the core. I’m a Broncos fan since 1986 and can’t never change even though they have been doing some stupid shit last few years

    • @skol98-ir6ie
      @skol98-ir6ie Місяць тому

      ​@dokedoker3340 with Dobbs, Mullens and a 5th round pick? Did you expect miracles lol he did what he could

  • @Kolbi504
    @Kolbi504 Місяць тому

    All the OCs can’t be head coaches they will eventually be back as a OC . I understand florio opinion but man let it go

  • @chuckchuckerson5364
    @chuckchuckerson5364 Місяць тому +1

    The Browns are absolutely dysfunctional. They signed Watson to a monster, all guaranteed contract, after he hadn't played for a couple of years, and was overrated to begin with. They were literally BETTER with Flacco, lol. They also just signed Judy to a ridiculous contract for a guy whos never even hit 1,000 yards in a season... Let that sink in. With 17 games, Judy has never had a 1,000 yard season, and just got paid by this team. They do this, and Nick Chubb, one of best RBs in football, is on the final year of his contract. The only reason the moves they make arent very controversial is that no one gives af about that team outside of Cleveland.

    • @leftisbest7173
      @leftisbest7173 Місяць тому

      Exactly, this is a perfect breakdown

  • @masx4468
    @masx4468 Місяць тому +2

    The best situation for a rookie QB is obviously the Jets. The front office, coaches, and field make for one great trifecta. And besides, who wouldn't want to go to New Jersey?

  • @user-ow6kc4ee3x
    @user-ow6kc4ee3x Місяць тому +1

    Will never understand why these 2 consistently hate on the raiders LOL, simms says the raiders have no weapons… Adams, tucker, Mayer, meyers and zamir white who took over the last few games last year proved to be very good and they get mattison as RB2. Simms talking out his ass

  • @jeffpotter7692
    @jeffpotter7692 Місяць тому

    Yeah link yourself to an offensive head coach. Just look at Tom Brady and Bill Belichik.... Oh wait.... Maybe Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll... No, Mike Tomlin and Big Ben... John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson... Sean McDermott and Josh Allen... Dang it I'll figure it out.

  • @ced9938
    @ced9938 Місяць тому

    Can you people stop with the revolving door of offensive coordinator talk like becoming a head coach is a different breed it's not for everyone the responsibilities are nowhere near close between the two. How many of those guys you really think are going to want to leave a top qb for a rebuild job because the chances of you jumping from a great qb to another is slim to none

  • @youngpower24
    @youngpower24 Місяць тому

    The premise is BS. A good QB elevates a bad team. You can’t say Wilson went to a bad team and on Mac Jones, frankly he was never a first round talent and that was just never going to work from a talent standpoint long term.

  • @josephbalinski
    @josephbalinski Місяць тому +2

    Florio: "I''m being objective" He obviously doesn't understand what objective is because he is not

  • @Dont-Ask-Me-My-Name
    @Dont-Ask-Me-My-Name Місяць тому

    I'll take Russ next season over Lamar & not sure Russ has ever been terrible in the playoffs, while that's not just Lamar Jackson's current status but his entire existence is being shockingly bad in the postseason

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 Місяць тому +1

    Worst spots: Washington New England. Best: Chicago, Minnesota.

  • @zj4008
    @zj4008 Місяць тому

    Don’t care what anybody says the Giants is the worse spot. Daboll is a toxic head coach and the front office is horrible. Not to mention the media market that will chew you up. That team doesn’t have a lot of talent either

  • @jarjar1593
    @jarjar1593 Місяць тому

    Never doubt the stupidity of browns ownership. Look wat they gave watson

  • @PrinceTravis72
    @PrinceTravis72 Місяць тому

    These 2 are so full of ish. I get it, you can't risk your career to talk bad about a team. But please, Chicago, Washington, Las Vegas, New York. All those teams have a habit of destroying QB's

  • @villanova5234
    @villanova5234 Місяць тому +1

    Oh my GOD Mike GET OFF this “I want an offensive coordinator as HC” take. We get it…

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 Місяць тому

    I don't think Sean Payton can develop a rookie QB, just for the record. In fact, I don't know if he makes it 3 seasons as the Broncos coach.

  • @rainmaker6335
    @rainmaker6335 Місяць тому +2

    Well the Vikings are the obvious choice for best place to go for a QB. Chicago is the 800 pound gorilla they seem to be dancing around as the worst place. If I was Caleb Williams I would try and pull an Eli Manning maneuver, to avoid the Bears.

    • @Phantom6lack
      @Phantom6lack Місяць тому

      The bears being a bad place for QB is an overrated take at this pick they have talent to throw to now. the only other thing they could be is build a dome like vik have to play in.

    • @sicaluffa
      @sicaluffa Місяць тому

      Really??? Minnesota??? FOH.

    • @73ajd1
      @73ajd1 Місяць тому

      The 800# gorilla will be the Bears this year, with Caleb riding on his back beating the shit out of whatever is left of a team in Minnesota.

    • @rainmaker6335
      @rainmaker6335 Місяць тому

      You might be right. But playing in wind and mud and snow is not ideal conditions for a QB. Vikings are in a dome with JJ and Addison and Hockinson and 2 elite Tackles and Aaron Jones at RB, Bears will certainly be better though with Williams.

    • @skol98-ir6ie
      @skol98-ir6ie Місяць тому

      ​@@sicaluffayes

  • @MrLivermore90
    @MrLivermore90 Місяць тому

    What’s with this misconception on how good of a head coach Mike Vrabel actually is

    • @Deezy3211
      @Deezy3211 Місяць тому

      Titans were consistently 9-7 before Vrabel, and then 7-10 and 6-11 the last few years….

    • @skol98-ir6ie
      @skol98-ir6ie Місяць тому

      ​@Deezy3211 not Vrabels fault

  • @trojon2271
    @trojon2271 Місяць тому +1

    Brady had Belichick. Peyton had Dungy. You don't need an offensive head coach. Trash take.

    • @skol98-ir6ie
      @skol98-ir6ie Місяць тому

      Wow 2 qbs out of thousands good analogy

    • @dinodesart8396
      @dinodesart8396 Місяць тому

      There talking about if rookies had there choice

  • @rushwarp
    @rushwarp Місяць тому

    This 24 QB class is a disaster. None of these QBs are worth a 1st round pick. What are you people watching?