My first pair of raw denim was 21oz. I didn't think they were to hard to wear. Mildly more annoying and hot in the summer but its still fabric, not cardboard. Id always say buy what you're most excited about. It'll all work out in the end
Some outstanding info on changing the shape and fit of raw denim goods, thanks very much for that! I have a couple of garments that I'm about to put through the same process and I really needed the nudge. And going from a 37" waist to 30"? Enjoy your clothes, my friend, you really earned that. Phenomenal work. I also liked the shout-out for TCB, I think they're a great brand. One thing I've never got on board with is the dedicated approach to fading. The rush to fade is not for me. Well-faded denim looks beautiful, but so does brand new unwashed denim and I want to let things run their own course and savour all the stages.
Hadn't heard of TCB before your video. Just checked out their S40's Jeans; nice high rise. I may have to try a pair. You're making great content, by the way; keep it coming.
I had a similar observation. Another reason why denim looks less faded on the body is that it fades where it rolls. Which is obvious when you lay it flat. But on the body it just looks like light and shadows in the creases.
Noticed you've updated your views on naked and famous from previous podcasts hehe. I do think their newer straight leg True Guy fit was really needed and appeals to a broader market now.
denim is the only fabrics that is allowed to look frayed or faded or patched and repaired and not giving off hobo vibe. that is the only reason, I don't personally know why raw is important, raw selvedge is the only way to get into heavyweight range, so no other option for me, I like dark navy hue of new raw, but I don't like how weird they crease or sticking out at weird angle when new, and it will take days/ weeks/ months before the pants kinda drapes more naturally for other people to see.
I got some Brave Star 14.5oz jeans the other month... idk.. that shyts pretty uncomfortable.. the lighter weight jeans are easy better.. selvedge itself looks awesome though i will say
Great video. I love my first pair of Sugar Cane 1947s, as well as my kinda overpriced Levi's 1933s (rocking the suspenders of course). I know I've got the bug bad now...looking forward to seeing how they fade.
I've been wearing 25oz Iron Heart 666 jeans and they're great! I also just got some SoSo Brothers 33oz jeans that are just monster like! Breaking them in at first is really challenging! I love the heavy weight now. Now when I pick up a regular weight pair of jeans it just feels flimsy and weak hahaha.
What’s your washing routine? Do you wash when they start to smell, get it dirty, have that slick feel, or is it scheduled washing no matter how much you wear them?
I tend to wash my jeans once a month or less now, or if I take them on trips, I wash them when I get back home. I used to wait until them smelled a bit, but I wash them more often now.
Check out the company Grease Point for some cool Japanese work denim pants I think you’d like. I got a pair of Levi’s 150th Anniversary high waist selvedge 501s and they made them beautifully. Also just got a pair of Red Tornado Snowy nep, back belt, high waist, suspenders buttons, back V notch. Beautifully made in China. 14oz. Great content.
The 20oz Oni denim and 21oz Iron Heart denim definitely fade, and neither of these models feels like cardboard, particularly the Oni 20oz denim, so all of you folks who are interested in heavier denim, go for it. Also, there’s nothing wrong with getting one wash or sanforized denim. They will fade just fine, and you won’t have the headache of the raw denim process.
Yeah, but you need to work on your wording. When you say that heavy weight denim is for “nerds” you sound silly and elitist, which is ironic because you are discussing work wear. Work on not sounding so Pedantic. It might help you bring more viewers to your content.
It is for nerds. So is the repro stuff I wear. I'm obviously a giant nerd as well. It's not meant to be demeaning, just pointing out that I don't think most people who aren't super fascinated by denim would want to wear heavy jeans. However, they might be interested in trying a more basic pair
Nuu is the rebranding of woods mountain, so it’s actually the same trousers he’s wearing. For what it’s worth i think it’s kind of reasonable to assume that the fabric is selvedge and he cuts the selvedge off because they’re flat felled. I know for a fact that’s the way it is with tcb for example, with their version of the USN denim trousers. Nuu’s trousers are raw. He ships them unwashed.
As stated below by @omrimeir I am actually wearing those exact trousers. It's just the new name for Woods Mountain. I think they are selvedge, but he does flat felled finishing on them so you wouldn't see the selvedge anyway
You and TGV of The Urban Gentry, have quite something in common personal preference wise. You disagree with things about Rose Anvil, and TGV respectfully hates Teddy Baldasarre.
Yes it almost certainly would be. Almost every pair of jeans, even high end raw denim is synthetic indigo. They have to be very clear about it being 100% natural indigo for it to be free of synthetic indigo and that is quite rare
Keeping the straight face after saying "Self-edging" was impressive 😂😅
Gotta be professional
My first pair of raw denim was 21oz. I didn't think they were to hard to wear. Mildly more annoying and hot in the summer but its still fabric, not cardboard. Id always say buy what you're most excited about. It'll all work out in the end
Very true. I'm just trying to be practical. Obviously some people will happily wear heavy denim in summer, but most won't
Some outstanding info on changing the shape and fit of raw denim goods, thanks very much for that! I have a couple of garments that I'm about to put through the same process and I really needed the nudge. And going from a 37" waist to 30"? Enjoy your clothes, my friend, you really earned that. Phenomenal work. I also liked the shout-out for TCB, I think they're a great brand.
One thing I've never got on board with is the dedicated approach to fading. The rush to fade is not for me. Well-faded denim looks beautiful, but so does brand new unwashed denim and I want to let things run their own course and savour all the stages.
Yeah I agree that you shouldn't try to rush the fade process all I do is wear and wash my jeans
Hadn't heard of TCB before your video. Just checked out their S40's Jeans; nice high rise. I may have to try a pair. You're making great content, by the way; keep it coming.
Thanks so much! And yes TCB are very impressive in my opinion
Bruno Mars with a denim fetish
I'll take that
I had a similar observation. Another reason why denim looks less faded on the body is that it fades where it rolls. Which is obvious when you lay it flat. But on the body it just looks like light and shadows in the creases.
Really good point! It basically rolls over the fades when it's on your body
its okay to wear raw denim on raw denim, raw denim on raw denim is hella fly and GOATED
Haha thanks!
Noticed you've updated your views on naked and famous from previous podcasts hehe. I do think their newer straight leg True Guy fit was really needed and appeals to a broader market now.
Yeah I was really glad to see that they made that model
That outfit is fire though, as long as someone wears it with confidence and personality
Thank you!
you can totally rock a double denim suit bruh bruh 💪💪
Thanks!
Great video Jake!
Thank you ao much!
denim is the only fabrics that is allowed to look frayed or faded or patched and repaired and not giving off hobo vibe. that is the only reason, I don't personally know why raw is important, raw selvedge is the only way to get into heavyweight range, so no other option for me, I like dark navy hue of new raw, but I don't like how weird they crease or sticking out at weird angle when new, and it will take days/ weeks/ months before the pants kinda drapes more naturally for other people to see.
I got some Brave Star 14.5oz jeans the other month... idk.. that shyts pretty uncomfortable.. the lighter weight jeans are easy better.. selvedge itself looks awesome though i will say
It may be the cut. Bravestar is pretty low rise and that makes a lot of pants really uncomfortable
Great video. I love my first pair of Sugar Cane 1947s, as well as my kinda overpriced Levi's 1933s (rocking the suspenders of course). I know I've got the bug bad now...looking forward to seeing how they fade.
Nice pairs for sure. I do love a buckle back jean
I've been wearing 25oz Iron Heart 666 jeans and they're great! I also just got some SoSo Brothers 33oz jeans that are just monster like! Breaking them in at first is really challenging! I love the heavy weight now. Now when I pick up a regular weight pair of jeans it just feels flimsy and weak hahaha.
Yeah I know the iron heart 25oz are tough
What’s your washing routine? Do you wash when they start to smell, get it dirty, have that slick feel, or is it scheduled washing no matter how much you wear them?
I tend to wash my jeans once a month or less now, or if I take them on trips, I wash them when I get back home. I used to wait until them smelled a bit, but I wash them more often now.
I never knew I had OCD until I seen 3 boots per cube.
Check out the company Grease Point for some cool Japanese work denim pants I think you’d like. I got a pair of Levi’s 150th Anniversary high waist selvedge 501s and they made them beautifully. Also just got a pair of Red Tornado Snowy nep, back belt, high waist, suspenders buttons, back V notch. Beautifully made in China. 14oz. Great content.
Oh yeah I've already had two pairs from him. He does great work!
The 20oz Oni denim and 21oz Iron Heart denim definitely fade, and neither of these models feels like cardboard, particularly the Oni 20oz denim, so all of you folks who are interested in heavier denim, go for it. Also, there’s nothing wrong with getting one wash or sanforized denim. They will fade just fine, and you won’t have the headache of the raw denim process.
I'm not saying you can't buy sanforized, I just prefer unsanforized
Yeah, but you need to work on your wording. When you say that heavy weight denim is for “nerds” you sound silly and elitist, which is ironic because you are discussing work wear. Work on not sounding so Pedantic. It might help you bring more viewers to your content.
It is for nerds. So is the repro stuff I wear. I'm obviously a giant nerd as well. It's not meant to be demeaning, just pointing out that I don't think most people who aren't super fascinated by denim would want to wear heavy jeans. However, they might be interested in trying a more basic pair
Have you tried the nuu-4682 military trousers? Do you know if they're selvedge and/or raw denim?
Nuu is the rebranding of woods mountain, so it’s actually the same trousers he’s wearing. For what it’s worth i think it’s kind of reasonable to assume that the fabric is selvedge and he cuts the selvedge off because they’re flat felled. I know for a fact that’s the way it is with tcb for example, with their version of the USN denim trousers. Nuu’s trousers are raw. He ships them unwashed.
As stated below by @omrimeir I am actually wearing those exact trousers. It's just the new name for Woods Mountain. I think they are selvedge, but he does flat felled finishing on them so you wouldn't see the selvedge anyway
Yup exactly! Thanks for that dude
Why wouldn't you do denim on denim? It looks good on you.
I like to have more contrast in my outfits
You and TGV of The Urban Gentry, have quite something in common personal preference wise. You disagree with things about Rose Anvil, and TGV respectfully hates Teddy Baldasarre.
Ah interesting. I used to watch tgv back in the day before Teddy showed up so I didn't know about that
Do y’all know if the Left Hand Twill for naked and famous is synthetic indigo?
Yes it almost certainly would be. Almost every pair of jeans, even high end raw denim is synthetic indigo. They have to be very clear about it being 100% natural indigo for it to be free of synthetic indigo and that is quite rare
@@almostvintagestyle ohhh I see. So you wouldn’t be missing out on a “true” raw denim experience with synthetic indigo?
Absolutely not. Almost all of it is synthetic
That jacket is not your size 😂😅
It is, the armholes are just too high
I have yet to meet a man who goes as far for denim to wear a pair of denim underwear.
Slubby cotton underwear would go crazy
Fortunately I haven't heard of that either
I noticed that you fold all of your jeans. I thought this was a cardinal sin in the denim world.
Doesn't bother me. There are a lot of denim rules that I don't personally agree with