And, ironically, Metal and 80s hair bands got a hard nostalgia kick thanks to Myspace. Downloaded music & Pro Tools were already changing things, but Facebook did a great job at effectively turning popular music into something resembling a McDonald's product.
@AVM-Music not really, you still have to buy something to record it, computer, something to get the stuff down. Not everyone can get a hold of one. Also not everyone on earth is computer literate. I can't tell you how many artists I've recorded that can't open a zip file even after I've showed them and sent video. Computers aren't free, education isn't free. Nothing in this world is free.
@@djsusan00 not to mention time. It takes time to make music, to practice, write, record, mix, and master. That takes time that could be used spending time with friends and family and work.
@@AVM-Music Not realy time cost. becaus it cost to live. I think their was five in my highschool class. that wanted to be rockstars. All of them played because it was fun to play. if they got paid it was pocket money. All of them works Nine to five. because dreams don´t pay bills.
@@massapower No, but with the potential "residual income" it might take the edge off the bills enough to afford some better living in general and get some savings built up.
Yeah, I'm a hobby player too. Since 1984 I've been happy with playing Garage Band level stuff. Now I have fun just recording at home. It would be fun to put my music out there for people to check out. It's a shame there isn't a Myspace type page now.
Facebook isn’t used by young people, because it hasn’t been cool to them for quite a while, if that’s the audience you’re trying to attract. They’re over at Instagram and TikTok.
Neato Beato made an excellent point. Record labels were always greedy and corrupt, but at least their business model depended on getting fans excited about new music.
He was wrong about the cost of entry, though. The idea that more people can produce with a lower overhead has actually helped far more talented people realise their potential than otherwise, the extreme metal scene has numerous projects thanks to lower entry requirements and none of this gate keeper BS.
It was a sad day. You could really personalize your MySpace page and make it the perfect showcase window for your band. EVERY facebook page looks the same. Why everybody hopped en masse on FB is a mystery to me. Perfect case of Lemming like behavior.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw myspace got bought by aol and ran it into the ground. the death nail was you couldnt customize your pages anymore and that was that.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5ywProduct of hive mind unfortunately. I remember resisting the move to FB for yrs but for some reason I eventually gave in.
Same here. I was excited when SoundCloud created a widget that you could use on Facebook but it was so lame. A little sliver compared to a fully dedicated customizable page and a community. The community of MySpace was what made it so special.
4:41 It's like that line at the beggining of that QOTSA album "This is Clone radio, we play the songs that sound more like everyone else than anyone else".
5 years ago to me was the Fall of '91. That was the peak of music in general. Look at all the albums released from 1990 to the end of 1992 in the major genres. Now find me a time since that that many classic albums were released.
I get a lot of plays after posting to your live mix streams- it’s given my mixes the help they’ve needed, and those who listen help share my stuff, if they like it… i highly suggest participating in the mix review shows!!
Excellent video mate. I'm from Newcastle Australia... you may have heard of us because of the band Silverchair... but back in the 70's through to the early 00's it was a hotbed of original rock and metal. Music in every pub on every corner... We went through the same decline in the scenec as you spoke about... but it feels like the kids are working hard to breathe some life back into it... there's hope...
Facts about commenters, so I wanna give you your flowers on the off chance you see it. Been watching you through various accounts for years and years and years now. From my first home studio to many more down the line, you’ve had a huge impact. I don’t even make metal anymore but always appreciate your advice, approach and personality 💯 Really fuck with your channel and message. Great to see your progression along the way and really appreciate your fearless gear reviews 🙌🏾 bringing back blooper reels is gold, love and support from London 🏴
The advances in home recording was great for creative,talented bands BUT it allowed people who have no business making music flooding the web with straight up shite !!! ]Props to THRUST, I'm from the KC area and I saw them more times than I can count
When I-Tunes first became big, there was an article that said 80% of the content had zero sales. I don't know if it was because acts were not promoting their stuff or because people don't want to try and listen to new acts.
The lack of vocals for some could be down to living in a crowded environment. Would need to shell out for a completely seperate space where we are not packed in like vermin and could really go bananas. First time commenter long time watcher. Love the channel.
MySpace was awesome. At that point I was the bass player in a metal band in Vancouver. We had so many gigs, sold merch, played festivals, and had a good following. Nowadays the local music scene is nonexistent.
20 years ago my band recorded their first release without a metronome. It was a drag to complete because of that - but the vibe and groove was way above everything other bands produced by robotically playing to click
In sleepy Lincoln (UK) the there is a supportive community emerging on Facebook from a few metal bands. We’re always boosting each other’s music and putting on gigs together.
I only just discovered your channel a few months ago. Thank you for your videos! I’m a 58 year old guitarist in Las Vegas. Your take on everything is spot-on! I look forward to your new vids while I catch up on your old ones.
Dude... You nailed it!!!! Favorite episode of yours yet!!! The beige bland sterilized state of music anymore has actually burnt me completely out of the entire thing for the last 3 years I haven't even had the urge to play, see or listen to hardly anything... Especially new... Until recently... And I have played music since I was 5.... I truly appreciate and hope this resonates throughout the music scene(s) and maybe... Just maybe a new Renaissance is on its way before AI gets in there and even further destroys what being an artist is truly about
For on of my projects I do literally everything all by myself. But what is particularly important is that I allow myself to make mistakes. To *NOT* be perfect. Because that helps you not to let yourself be dissuaded from achieving the goals you have set, especially in those aspects that lie outside your comfort zone. Knowing full well that, in the long term, these are only interim goals in the best sense of the word and that the experience gained is the basis for further development.
I do pretty much the same thing. I"m 69 now and i really don't feel like dragging my gear and my sorry ass out to play for next to nothing. So i enjoy writing and recording in my own studio. I'm an almost decent guitar player but I don't fix it in my DAW. Real is best!
Glenn, on the off chance you may be reading this comment, I just want to say thank you for not only what you do, but for making videos like this. I’m a drummer who’s played semi-professionally for about 17 years now, and playing music is largely a hobby for me, but I love it too much to not make time for it in my life. I’ve had the opportunity to play on a number of recordings, and have my own solo music out, and with that, the approach I take as a session drummer largely comes from watching your “13 Reasons Why” series of videos. I watch them and say to myself, “I’m not going to be that musician.” So, thanks for everything you do and keep up the good work.
This is too true. A friend of mine recently started up a new band and the number one place they promote themselves is Tiktok. He hates it, says it makes him physically cringe at doing it - but it's where the get the most views/engagement/etc. It's more about content creation - and the creating and recording the music is a minor part of that.
Bands don’t actually do TikTok trends. It’s usually their fans or “normies” that find something interesting about a song and then make a TikTok video., Deathcore band Lorna Shore has been lucky twice 1) Somebody picked an earlier song of theirs, and put crazy house cats in the video. And then in ‘21 they released “Into the Heñllfire” and the third breakdown features a disgusting vocal section. Once again, some one found the song and it went viral on TikTok. You can’t really plan it.
I'm so glad I don't have live in the US, or have to try and work in the 'scenes' over there! There is actually a pretty decent live music and metal scene in South Wales. My band just played a gig last night for instance, and got to meet three more awesome bands that we're really hoping to work with again soon. I guess what I'm saying is that at least here in South Wales, we're very supportive of other bands and will try and build each other up. It's not exactly your success is my success, but supporting each other will always make the scene stronger. The main issue we have is the amount of venues closing down every month! Hopefully, with the new government, there will be more support to keep those venues in business, but it's a close run thing at the moment! And on a personal level, when do you actually stream?! I seem to have missed every one for some time, mainly because you stream at stupid o'clock in the morning for us Brits! 😛
There's actually a decent scene here in the US too, if people know where to look. However, they're not going to find it by focusing on childish comments left on Facebook posts like this video does. Having gotten a bit involved in the doom scene, I have to say, that has a particularly nice sense of community here.
6:22 Your comment regarding stuff like that is absolutely on point from my experience. One of the only comments for the first song I ever published here on YT was a guy telling it's not particularly interesting to him, followed by him saying he's been playing for like 30 something years and is more into technical death metal stuff like Necrophaghist and what not. Uhhh ok?
There’s a lot I don’t agree with you on but when it comes to music you are usually spot on. Where I don’t agree is irrelevant. I’m here for the music and gear tips. Nailed this one.
"Be as creative as you want, as long as it's perfect." Couldn't have said it better. It feels like a lot of people feel that way about a lot of things these days. Not healthy.
Honestly Glenn, thank you so much for this video, i really needed to hear this as I’ve been too scared to even try to write a song to completion out of both inner perfectionism, and fear of accidental assimilation. I want to create and make a lot of noise just like anyone else, and your real advice gave me that spirit to throw music out there even if it sucks cause you will learn and you will create until you refine your craft. Thank you so much :3
Metal has effectively turned into Hip-Hop/Rap music. Since bands are time aligning, editing, and quantizing their music. They are effectively turning their own performances into samples. That’s what modern Metal is now, just a bunch of homemade samples.
@SpectreSoundStudios, one of the greatest saying about recording an album came from Mike Ness of Social Distortion. He said that when he records, he writes an album that he would buy, regardless of other people’s opinion. This has inspired my writing process. I’m not anywhere near as good as Mike Ness, but I write what I want and what I like. At this point, I’m too old to be a rock star, but I just love doing it.
Getting copyright checked on Facebook is annoying as hell. I wanted to record myself in video playing both guitar parts from ELO's Fire On High in real time, switching between electric and acoustic. I had a basic backing track for timing and was flagged and was completely muted the whole video. It was just a fun parlor trick video for a guitar group and had a lot of fun with it, but the whole experience left me too bitter to upload anything else afterwards. Commenting on anything is fucking annoying as well, getting spammed by bots, especially multiple fake accounts from the artist you commented on.
My channel was created to post covers but the reality is I don't own those songs and they are subject to copyright protections. It's not something to get bitter over, artists own their art and platforms are responsible for abiding by those laws.
Really interesting one, this. Thanks Glenn. Felt like having a good chat with a mate, that takes some doing... and that got me thinking... Have you ever considered doing something like this video with Mr Beato? Not only would us great unwashed be blessed by such a collaboration, but I think you could "advance the cause" by putting your heads together over a brew and righting the world's wrongs. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, it's very appreciated
@ 19:25 As a musician, I've been saying that to other musicians for decades. The bands you love, were influenced by other bands. If your only influences are those bands, then you'll sound like a copy- maby a good one, but still a copy. Listen to what they listened, filter it through your perception, then you'll sound like the bands you love, but you'll give also your own touch, your music will have personality! And for Frick's Sake, stop time alligning everything! I personally love it when a drummer gets excited, starts playing faster and the whole band follows- it gives a sense of urgency, it's a rush! Or when a singer's voice breaks...it strikes a cord, it's raw emotion!
Phil Anselmo said it really well at Loyola University. He said that they were influenced by 20 bands and they ripped them off all to hell, but in doing that, they found something new. Modern bands sound like they are influenced by 3 bands and you can hear it.
That was a very well done video Glenn! The number of times someone has told me that tracks need to be time aligned and pitch corrected just because that’s what everyone else does is astounding.
Yeah, our philosophy is don't record anything you can’t do live. Screw the pitch correct and all the other B.S never used it and never will. I don't eant people coming to our gig expecting one thing and getting something else, to be honest the best thing to hear at a gig is "damn you guys sound better than on the record and the record was banging"
It's a double edge sword. Some singers spend hours upon hours recording their vocal track until they get the right one. The problem with pitch correction is that you can hear it most of the time. If the singer is only flat by a 1/2 step, a lot of times they can get away with a little pitch correction, but anything more than that, it starts to sound robotic.
What sucks even more is that bands are now combating crowds, expecting them to sound just like the record, by using real-time pitch correction. Some musicians call it, "using juice". It's not auto-tune, because it sounds natural. I think they have a playback that expects certain notes to be hit at certain times and forces whatever comes through to go to those notes.
@@brdane never heard of this, we just play live as we are. What you hear is us nothinh else. We believe in our music and our ability to play our instruments without any help and cheats
I was reading about the production on the Pixies' album 'Doolittle'. The guy told the producer he wanted the music to be "portable", not full of touches that couldn't be reproduced live. Really made the producer work for his money, but the result was one of the best alternative rock albums of the 80s.
7:17 - You said vicious circle, you immediately earned a like from me, Glenn. 👍 14:02 - Damn, I really wanted to give you another like for going to see Jinjer!
Love this essay! However, I believe throwing the metronome is not a good statement. I understand you meant using it at the exact moment of recording, but many guitarists might misinterpret this and stop using it altogether. This could result in them becoming part of the 95% of musicians who struggle with recording. A metronome is key. Study with it-it's important! Just make sure to internalize it.
@@orlock20 I respectfully disagree, I believe metronome is so fundamental for practice in any role of western music. Thinking the metronome is optional is just going to work against you in the end.
I watch, I enjoy, I listen and try to learn! As someone who's now attempting to change their sound from electronic to heavier stuff and just now recording my own instruments, I appreciate all that I've learned on this channel (and the free IR's!.. already put em to good use!). I think this is my first comment so ... f you, Glenn! 🤘🤘
As opposed to the jealousy and backstabbing that goes on in your local scene? I fail to see how Facebook is the main problem here. The problem is human nature. My favorite quote from Hunter S. Thompson regarding the music biz "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
MySpace was so dope! We had a community of musicians, managers, and promotors all in our local area because of the networking on it. I was in 4 bands at one point and we all played together. Once all in the same night. It was so much fun. I recorded several bands and helped design some album and page art. Listening to music on their page was so satisfying. Reading comments, booking shows, making new fans, finding gigs for performing and recording..... It was unlike anything I had ever experienced. The music scene was super hot back then. I would go to a nightclub to dance and shit or a concert and people recognized us. The community was tight. It was sick AF!
I really like your take on this Glenn... I've always liked live production, and recordings derived from live gigs. Maybe it's just my 54 turns around the sun. I don't know, nor do I care. The music I make makes me happy. I don't post it anywhere. Thanks Glenn!
Freaking loved this !! You're right in every way ! We need more content creators, commentors and musicians to back up these glorious viewpoints 🤘 The world has gone to shits, and its time to rebuild and care about what's real instead of caring about your own fears!! Its time to say stop to bullshit ! # that !
Oh man, the "people will only interact to put you down" thing is beyond true. I was part of a group that was focused on HOW we got sounds in recordings we liked or made (studio equipment/gear used, mixing style, etc etc) and when I posted a song I recorded, without fail some guitar player only commented to tell me my bends weren't perfectly in pitch and nothing else.
I was around the my space era, but it was more to the end when I was a freshman in highschool, but my high school focused on academics than physical sports. I saw literal flyers of local acts, that were not some group of teenagers just started a band and shit out a performance at a relatives birthday party. They had a my space pages at the time and fostered creativity. Yeah we had a metal act that was a grindcore copy but that was the only one there, as they at least the performed at the school talent show on the second year, and gave us a new sound. Sadly that band isn't hear because graduation. You have a point, the music scene, gate keeping culture, and the unwillingness to experiment will just create "copy and paste" bands that will never see anything outside of the bubble. The entire process today has changed, and everything that you said Glenn, hits the nail right on the head. Another UA-camr even talked about the state of modern metal, as anything new was criticized and degraded, and gatekeeped by older metal bands. My dad has gotten me into bands like Metallica, guns n roses, slayer, Megadeth, anthrax, and many more, he even rocked the metal look, right down the snake skinned boots, and I still have them. Great video, and I learned a lot Glenn.
Glen you are awesome for the sale on all the plugins and courses I have been waiting for a deal like this to come along. Also agree 100 percent with you with this video topic. My first and only band I was ever truly proud I was a part of was on and thanks to MySpace. I miss those days so much and the days when we the average musician could get discovered and take our income to a level where we could make a living was more able to be achieved without already being a band selling out stadiums or having millions of subscribers and likes on UA-cam likes. I'm old and today I am content with making music just to do it and share it with friends who will listen to it and appreciate the time and effort I put into it and of course my wife and kids. This deal would definitely make this easier on me and much better results than I am currently getting so again Thank You for offering this to all of us tonally picky guitar players. Hello from Xenia Ohio
That OG Garageband was awesome. You could enter your song into a category pool of sorts, you'd review a number of other bands' songs (10 or 15, can't remember) and yours would get reviewed in return. My band made it into a couple of top something lists and I discovered some great artists along the way. Criticism without trolling. I miss that model.
“Band practice with a bar” Nailed it right on the head Glen. I started playing in bands at 13, back then MySpace was a powerful tool to network, grow audiences and keep the scene together. Whether it was a dive bar or a venue, my city had plenty of bands of all genres and shows to see. Twenty years later, Friday and Saturday nights at the remaining stages can be as empty as a Tuesday afternoon. Makes me wonder how it would be to be 13 again plying my first shows in 2024.
Glenn, thank you for stating this! Before autotune, nothing was perfect! Even Rush made mistakes! But it gave every recording character! Mistakes were made in every recording and from every multi-million dollar recording studio! Humans aren't perfect! That's why "perfection" in songs actually SUCK! Every band that will knock other bands for making mistakes are NOT perfect either! Glenn, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT! This was inspiring! We haven't had real, powerful music since the 90's. Nothing was perfect there! Alice in Chains, Sound Garden, Nirvana, prided themselves on spontaneity, not perfection! Thanks again Glenn!
Hey glenn! Im one of your American fans! I know you touched on it really briefly, but im one of the ones that was inspired to play music for real after playing games like guitar hero and rock band. I have no doubt that my music taste and even passion for the guitar and other instruments would be very different had it not been for that era of passion and creativity. (I suck at playing, but i still enjoy it anyway)
G'day Glenn. Here in Newcastle Australia, we had a massive music scene back in the 80's & 90's. You talk to people who were in bands back then and they could play gig after gig, making their way from pub to pub along the main street over the course of the night. They honed their chops and turned into great musicians who could put on a great live show. All those venues are gone now. There are still some amazing musicians around, some creating original music, but the days of heading out knowing you had a smorgasbord of original live music all within a 15 minute walk are gone. Sounds overly sentimental, but I think it was a better time. Take care mate
don't forget Dino Jelusick! that kid from croatia is an excellent metal singer. his band is called Dirty Shirley and a great song to start with them is named "Here comes the King", which has a George Lynch cameo. check it out! it's excellent. he also joined Whitesnake to replace Coverdale on vocals.
I like the imperfect older music because, even thoughthe verse or chorus may be repetitive, I can generally pick out exactly where the song is going because of the imperceptible mistakes that we ignore as we listen to the song. Logistics sometimes require our band to record tracks separately, I prefer to record tracks "live on the floor". The energy, the raw emotion in the performance is captured instead of a sterile, "flawless", emotionless recording. I appreciate what you do. Go easy on the bass guitarists.
This video is so inspiring. I just got done recording a song for myself and have been a bit self conscious about if it's "perfect" or not.... But the reality is no one really gives a shit!!! Perfection is boring!! Thanks for the advice!
Really good points Glenn. I haven’t watched your mix reviews a ton but I’ve found it’s a pretty damn positive forum. I think you should mention that rather than how awful the songs are. Maybe I was lucky but when I listened the songs weren’t bad at all.
Great video man!!! I agree with every point you make... I usually can stick with bands that bring something new to the table, specially in regards to song writting
Was my music scene booming in 2005? Ever hear of Taking Back Sunday? I'm from Long Island, NY. The music scene here was UNREAL because of them, and so many other bands!
I remember opening my FB account because a local band I was in wanted to get in front of this new tech. After years of myspace I was seriously disappointed when I logged in. I think my FB picture is still from about 2010 and I can't be bothered to even log in to just delete my account. Worst thing that ever happened to local musicians - even us who weren't good enough to make original music. At one point we could guarantee a bar a certain customer base just by showing them our myspace account with the listings from people who were interested in a show. Sure, not everyone showed up, but if you get a bunch of people saying they may go then it's pretty good odds you'll get at least 10-40% which was enough for most bars to double their expectations on a Friday or Saturday night,. Facebook was made for college students to find each other when bored in their dorm rooms and really hasn't changed since - and for that job it seems perfect. Loved the rant. I did have to giggle after you just talked about Jinjer then went on to rant about all the bands that lack vocals though! Tatiana would definitely say...hold my beer while I go belt this out!
I grew up in Charlottesville, VA, home to artists such as the Dave Matthews Band, Chris Daughtry, Bella Morte and Earth to Andy. We once had a flourishing punk and gothic industrial rock music scene. Before it was torn down, Trax Nightclub hosted concerts for almost every single alternative rock band's North American tour in the 90s and 2000s. Now all we have is light adult contemporary rock, blues and folk music filling the theater and restaurant stages. Corporations have taken over the listener-supported radio stations that once hosted shows for specific music genres and local artists. And Myspace was the information sharing platform for all of this.
I loved Trax. I had the great privilege of taking lessons from Tony Lopacinski of Earth to Andy in the early outties. He gave me a CD of his solo album Face for my 30th birthday. Sad that he passed so young.
@williamduvall2800 yeah the party was just as he was getting ready to move to Nashville. Six months later, I also had to move from the area. Tony was a great guy. And Still After You is the best reverse delay solo ever.
On the topic of the human element: I recently got back into listening to Exhumed. Cookie monster vocals, I know. But what makes their early albums interesting to me is that their first drummer didn't use a metronome at all and his drumming is all over the place, but that just makes it sound so much more unhinged, it absolutely fits the music. Sometimes being too precise is just being too sterile
It's the mistakes and inaccuracies that adds character to songs. That's why live albums were all the rage for decades, except for those that constantly bitched about about how it didn't sound like the original studio recording. Now, it's those bitchers that are editing the music. As for discovering obscure bands, let's start a movement to bring Gimme Metal back, where musicians, producers, label A&R guys, etc, had radio shows of bands music they love now and the ones that sculpted them into the musician/professional they are now.
True, they wanted to make a more marketable product for the consumer, but still, live albums were desirable to many because they offer a different take to familiar songs from favorite artists. Now it gets shady when bands take demos and alternative studio recordings and added crowd sounds to make fake live albums, but Type O Negative's "Origin of the Feces" and GnR's "Live Like a Suicide" did this and came out great.
It's all hobby for me. I've been happy with playing Garage Band level stuff since 1984. Now I have fun just recording at home. It would be fun to put my music out there for people to check out. It's a shame there isn't a Myspace type page now.
I wish I had a picture of what my page looked like. I think I uploaded some tracks, but I don’t remember. I suppose I could try the Wayback Machine to see if it crawled the page.
don't forget to blame youtube also. I refer to music since 2010 as "youtube music". i miss the days of myspace. i remember going to plenty of shows from plenty of artists. and now it's gone downhill. HAhaaa Freedom Fries. I still refer to French Fries as Freedom Fries and I get odd looks from so many people. it's great. Thanks for this info cos it helps some of us who wanna help record bands get better and sound better. It's something we all need to be reminded of.
Man, you couldn’t be more right. Myspace days were better, but my local scene still wasn’t very supportive of each other. Bands hated on the more talented bands. It was ridiculous.
Parkway is still huge and I’m American. Northlane sold out our one venue last night, and Alphawolf was there recently too, and they do really well in America.
The internet revolutionized how music and art gets distributed nowadays. If one wants to capitalize on it - Go for it. There's nothing wrong with that. If you're an artist who does it for art's sake (our work is going to haunt the world long after it's rid of us), go for that. I'm ambivalent about it from an artistic standpoint. "Yeah, that's a really good job," I'll admit about this or that. But I absolutely hate materialism as a motive for it. F--- that and anyone entrenched in it.
Taking your point, may I just speak in defence of the grid: it is as likely to inspire as any other instrument. That precision digital studio techniques are being abused doesn't surprise guitars, string sections, choirs or anything else that has been used tastelessly over the millennia. I also wonder if some musicians have benefitted from hearing what on-pitch vocals and on-time drums sound like. Anyway, knowing what's possible with the laptop now, it makes me all the more appreciative when I hear a local act (like Spacebar, Exeter UK) that is authentically tight live.
The last 2 months I had the distinct pleasure of becoming friends with famed producer Ron St. Germain. Such a talent. We discussed the current state of music streaming. He told me that over a 6 month period where the catalog of music he’s associated with, earned Spotify $5 million. His royalty check? $178. While I love recording and releasing our material, the ROI is simply the love of it, while paying to make the music. Any advice from the streaming folks is 😵💫😵💫😵💫
MySpace friends actually came to our concerts! That was the day.😜
We had some VERY big shows here full of myspace kids... I really miss that.
And, ironically, Metal and 80s hair bands got a hard nostalgia kick thanks to Myspace. Downloaded music & Pro Tools were already changing things, but Facebook did a great job at effectively turning popular music into something resembling a McDonald's product.
mine too, but guess what....our friends are 15 years older and have kids and don't get out so much anymore. 🤣
Fuck yeah! MySpace was a great tool!
Cost of making music is virtually nothing? He should ask my wife what she thinks of that.
The cost of making is absolutely free, he is correct
The cost of equipment cripples us
@AVM-Music not really, you still have to buy something to record it, computer, something to get the stuff down. Not everyone can get a hold of one. Also not everyone on earth is computer literate. I can't tell you how many artists I've recorded that can't open a zip file even after I've showed them and sent video. Computers aren't free, education isn't free. Nothing in this world is free.
@@djsusan00 not to mention time. It takes time to make music, to practice, write, record, mix, and master. That takes time that could be used spending time with friends and family and work.
@@bronsonjohnson9019 Spotify ceo clearly thinks everyone just pirates fl studio and goes to town lmao
@@AVM-Music Not realy time cost. becaus it cost to live. I think their was five in my highschool class. that wanted to be rockstars. All of them played because it was fun to play. if they got paid it was pocket money. All of them works Nine to five. because dreams don´t pay bills.
Metal is supposed to be the genre of, "Fuck you! I'm doing it my way!"
Hasn't been that way for decades
Now it's "Fuck you! You didn't do it like everyone else!"
And it still kinda is... Except that mentality is the niche stuff only.
YA OK !! BONNE CHANCE with that !! 🥱
@@SpectreSoundStudios No kidding with that sterile box sounding drum software!
As a 46 year old dude, I’m not trying to get rich and famous. All I want is for my music to be heard and hopefully some people dig it.
right there with ya. I don't hate on social media or streaming. It's nice having my music heard by people around the globe.
Sadly you will never live off your music, Unless you become a Huge SUCCE$$ 😎✌
@@massapower No, but with the potential "residual income" it might take the edge off the bills enough to afford some better living in general and get some savings built up.
Yeah, I'm a hobby player too. Since 1984 I've been happy with playing Garage Band level stuff. Now I have fun just recording at home. It would be fun to put my music out there for people to check out. It's a shame there isn't a Myspace type page now.
Same here, I just want to make music and hopefully people will like it.
MySpace was awesome for music and all our local music scenes. Facebook in all ways is complete shit.
Facebook isn’t used by young people, because it hasn’t been cool to them for quite a while, if that’s the audience you’re trying to attract. They’re over at Instagram and TikTok.
MySpace was so fun and simple
Neato Beato made an excellent point. Record labels were always greedy and corrupt, but at least their business model depended on getting fans excited about new music.
He was wrong about the cost of entry, though. The idea that more people can produce with a lower overhead has actually helped far more talented people realise their potential than otherwise, the extreme metal scene has numerous projects thanks to lower entry requirements and none of this gate keeper BS.
EXACTLY !! 😎
Why rely on a record label to promote you? We live in a D.I.Y. world now. Some people choose to not have one and do just as well or even better.
@user-mw7gc3wq3p That doesn't kill new music. It *might* inspire you to make some new music though.
@user-mw7gc3wq3pelaborate. If you mean Rhett. He’s paid his dues.
Folk would do well to remember that "cost" isn't just money. It's also time.
Too many producers and not enough creativ8ry
I remember the day when my bandmates told me that everyone was on Facebook, not MySpace. I never clicked with it for music.
It was a sad day. You could really personalize your MySpace page and make it the perfect showcase window for your band. EVERY facebook page looks the same. Why everybody hopped en masse on FB is a mystery to me. Perfect case of Lemming like behavior.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw myspace got bought by aol and ran it into the ground. the death nail was you couldnt customize your pages anymore and that was that.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5ywProduct of hive mind unfortunately. I remember resisting the move to FB for yrs but for some reason I eventually gave in.
MySpace was great until it got overloaded with ads that slowed it to a crawl…
Same here. I was excited when SoundCloud created a widget that you could use on Facebook but it was so lame. A little sliver compared to a fully dedicated customizable page and a community. The community of MySpace was what made it so special.
4:41 It's like that line at the beggining of that QOTSA album "This is Clone radio, we play the songs that sound more like everyone else than anyone else".
"... If we go back almost 20 years from 2005 to 2008..."
Fucking excuse me?! That like 5 years ago... 😬
Time files real quick.
😂 I feel ya.
Indeed!
5 years ago to me was the Fall of '91. That was the peak of music in general. Look at all the albums released from 1990 to the end of 1992 in the major genres. Now find me a time since that that many classic albums were released.
I get a lot of plays after posting to your live mix streams- it’s given my mixes the help they’ve needed, and those who listen help share my stuff, if they like it… i highly suggest participating in the mix review shows!!
You gotta be psychic to catch one these days though!
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn very true- missed the last one!!
Smbdy pls review my project "signed in black", and write comments and give likes)))
Excellent video mate. I'm from Newcastle Australia... you may have heard of us because of the band Silverchair... but back in the 70's through to the early 00's it was a hotbed of original rock and metal. Music in every pub on every corner...
We went through the same decline in the scenec as you spoke about... but it feels like the kids are working hard to breathe some life back into it... there's hope...
Angel witch. By angel witch. From the album angel witch. Written by angel witch. Produced by angel witch. For angel witch.
And it fucking slaps too
Facts about commenters, so I wanna give you your flowers on the off chance you see it. Been watching you through various accounts for years and years and years now. From my first home studio to many more down the line, you’ve had a huge impact. I don’t even make metal anymore but always appreciate your advice, approach and personality 💯
Really fuck with your channel and message. Great to see your progression along the way and really appreciate your fearless gear reviews 🙌🏾 bringing back blooper reels is gold, love and support from London 🏴
The advances in home recording was great for creative,talented bands BUT it allowed people who have no business making music
flooding the web with straight up shite !!!
]Props to THRUST, I'm from the KC area and I saw them more times than I can count
This. The noise floor is SO high because of this. Literally a sea of shite.
But radio was shite too. For decades in the industry, just like in the ocean, trash floats to the top.
When I-Tunes first became big, there was an article that said 80% of the content had zero sales. I don't know if it was because acts were not promoting their stuff or because people don't want to try and listen to new acts.
I think you’re gatekeeping
@@RY30DM I've played nearly my whole life and have made music for over 35 years ,I think I might qualify.
The lack of vocals for some could be down to living in a crowded environment. Would need to shell out for a completely seperate space where we are not packed in like vermin and could really go bananas. First time commenter long time watcher. Love the channel.
MySpace was awesome. At that point I was the bass player in a metal band in Vancouver. We had so many gigs, sold merch, played festivals, and had a good following. Nowadays the local music scene is nonexistent.
20 years ago my band recorded their first release without a metronome. It was a drag to complete because of that - but the vibe and groove was way above everything other bands produced by robotically playing to click
In sleepy Lincoln (UK) the there is a supportive community emerging on Facebook from a few metal bands. We’re always boosting each other’s music and putting on gigs together.
I only just discovered your channel a few months ago. Thank you for your videos! I’m a 58 year old guitarist in Las Vegas. Your take on everything is spot-on! I look forward to your new vids while I catch up on your old ones.
“Facebook enables ssa holes” or, expand to include social media in general.
Imagine back in the day, you had to say something to someone's face. Would certainly cut down a lot of toxicity that exist across the platforms today
Hear, hear! 👍
Dude... You nailed it!!!! Favorite episode of yours yet!!! The beige bland sterilized state of music anymore has actually burnt me completely out of the entire thing for the last 3 years I haven't even had the urge to play, see or listen to hardly anything... Especially new... Until recently... And I have played music since I was 5.... I truly appreciate and hope this resonates throughout the music scene(s) and maybe... Just maybe a new Renaissance is on its way before AI gets in there and even further destroys what being an artist is truly about
For on of my projects I do literally everything all by myself. But what is particularly important is that I allow myself to make mistakes. To *NOT* be perfect. Because that helps you not to let yourself be dissuaded from achieving the goals you have set, especially in those aspects that lie outside your comfort zone. Knowing full well that, in the long term, these are only interim goals in the best sense of the word and that the experience gained is the basis for further development.
I do pretty much the same thing. I"m 69 now and i really don't feel like dragging my gear and my sorry ass out to play for next to nothing. So i enjoy writing and recording in my own studio. I'm an almost decent guitar player but I don't fix it in my DAW. Real is best!
Glenn, on the off chance you may be reading this comment, I just want to say thank you for not only what you do, but for making videos like this.
I’m a drummer who’s played semi-professionally for about 17 years now, and playing music is largely a hobby for me, but I love it too much to not make time for it in my life.
I’ve had the opportunity to play on a number of recordings, and have my own solo music out, and with that, the approach I take as a session drummer largely comes from watching your “13 Reasons Why” series of videos. I watch them and say to myself, “I’m not going to be that musician.”
So, thanks for everything you do and keep up the good work.
Thank you very much!
Let us not forget about bands having to resort to doing tik tok trends to promote themselves instead of actually playing music.
This is too true. A friend of mine recently started up a new band and the number one place they promote themselves is Tiktok. He hates it, says it makes him physically cringe at doing it - but it's where the get the most views/engagement/etc. It's more about content creation - and the creating and recording the music is a minor part of that.
Bands don’t actually do TikTok trends. It’s usually their fans or “normies” that find something interesting about a song and then make a TikTok video., Deathcore band Lorna Shore has been lucky twice 1) Somebody picked an earlier song of theirs, and put crazy house cats in the video. And then in ‘21 they released “Into the Heñllfire” and the third breakdown features a disgusting vocal section. Once again, some one found the song and it went viral on TikTok. You can’t really plan it.
I'm so glad I don't have live in the US, or have to try and work in the 'scenes' over there! There is actually a pretty decent live music and metal scene in South Wales. My band just played a gig last night for instance, and got to meet three more awesome bands that we're really hoping to work with again soon. I guess what I'm saying is that at least here in South Wales, we're very supportive of other bands and will try and build each other up. It's not exactly your success is my success, but supporting each other will always make the scene stronger. The main issue we have is the amount of venues closing down every month! Hopefully, with the new government, there will be more support to keep those venues in business, but it's a close run thing at the moment!
And on a personal level, when do you actually stream?! I seem to have missed every one for some time, mainly because you stream at stupid o'clock in the morning for us Brits! 😛
There's actually a decent scene here in the US too, if people know where to look. However, they're not going to find it by focusing on childish comments left on Facebook posts like this video does. Having gotten a bit involved in the doom scene, I have to say, that has a particularly nice sense of community here.
6:22 Your comment regarding stuff like that is absolutely on point from my experience. One of the only comments for the first song I ever published here on YT was a guy telling it's not particularly interesting to him, followed by him saying he's been playing for like 30 something years and is more into technical death metal stuff like Necrophaghist and what not. Uhhh ok?
There’s a lot I don’t agree with you on but when it comes to music you are usually spot on. Where I don’t agree is irrelevant. I’m here for the music and gear tips. Nailed this one.
"Be as creative as you want, as long as it's perfect." Couldn't have said it better. It feels like a lot of people feel that way about a lot of things these days. Not healthy.
A lot of people think a lot of things about Hawaii
Best post I saw this week. "Ignore the statics and make the music you love for yourself. If it's genuine, your people will listen."
MOM, Grandpa’s yelling at clouds again! 🤣🤣🤣
But forreal though, we need to bring back MySpace 😤💯
Honestly Glenn, thank you so much for this video, i really needed to hear this as I’ve been too scared to even try to write a song to completion out of both inner perfectionism, and fear of accidental assimilation. I want to create and make a lot of noise just like anyone else, and your real advice gave me that spirit to throw music out there even if it sucks cause you will learn and you will create until you refine your craft. Thank you so much :3
Metal has effectively turned into Hip-Hop/Rap music. Since bands are time aligning, editing, and quantizing their music. They are effectively turning their own performances into samples. That’s what modern Metal is now, just a bunch of homemade samples.
honest question, should they just record one take playthrough and release that?
@SpectreSoundStudios, one of the greatest saying about recording an album came from Mike Ness of Social Distortion. He said that when he records, he writes an album that he would buy, regardless of other people’s opinion. This has inspired my writing process. I’m not anywhere near as good as Mike Ness, but I write what I want and what I like. At this point, I’m too old to be a rock star, but I just love doing it.
Getting copyright checked on Facebook is annoying as hell. I wanted to record myself in video playing both guitar parts from ELO's Fire On High in real time, switching between electric and acoustic. I had a basic backing track for timing and was flagged and was completely muted the whole video. It was just a fun parlor trick video for a guitar group and had a lot of fun with it, but the whole experience left me too bitter to upload anything else afterwards.
Commenting on anything is fucking annoying as well, getting spammed by bots, especially multiple fake accounts from the artist you commented on.
My channel was created to post covers but the reality is I don't own those songs and they are subject to copyright protections. It's not something to get bitter over, artists own their art and platforms are responsible for abiding by those laws.
Dude I can't stand the comment notifications and it doesn't take you to the comment or it doesn't take you to the post altogether 🤣
I got copywrite striked and shadow banned for uploading my own music 😂
UA-cam can be the same way as far as copyright goes.
This is why I watch your channel Glen, abashadly honest with advice that's on the money! Don't ever stop what you are doing 🤘🤘🤘
I miss Tom.
Shame what happened to him
Really interesting one, this. Thanks Glenn. Felt like having a good chat with a mate, that takes some doing... and that got me thinking...
Have you ever considered doing something like this video with Mr Beato?
Not only would us great unwashed be blessed by such a collaboration, but I think you could "advance the cause" by putting your heads together over a brew and righting the world's wrongs.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, it's very appreciated
@ 19:25 As a musician, I've been saying that to other musicians for decades.
The bands you love, were influenced by other bands.
If your only influences are those bands, then you'll sound like a copy- maby a good one, but still a copy. Listen to what they listened, filter it through your perception, then you'll sound like the bands you love, but you'll give also your own touch, your music will have personality!
And for Frick's Sake, stop time alligning everything! I personally love it when a drummer gets excited, starts playing faster and the whole band follows- it gives a sense of urgency, it's a rush!
Or when a singer's voice breaks...it strikes a cord, it's raw emotion!
Phil Anselmo said it really well at Loyola University. He said that they were influenced by 20 bands and they ripped them off all to hell, but in doing that, they found something new. Modern bands sound like they are influenced by 3 bands and you can hear it.
That was a very well done video Glenn! The number of times someone has told me that tracks need to be time aligned and pitch corrected just because that’s what everyone else does is astounding.
Tatiana from Jinjer has great vocals imo
Yeah, our philosophy is don't record anything you can’t do live. Screw the pitch correct and all the other B.S never used it and never will.
I don't eant people coming to our gig expecting one thing and getting something else, to be honest the best thing to hear at a gig is "damn you guys sound better than on the record and the record was banging"
It's a double edge sword. Some singers spend hours upon hours recording their vocal track until they get the right one. The problem with pitch correction is that you can hear it most of the time. If the singer is only flat by a 1/2 step, a lot of times they can get away with a little pitch correction, but anything more than that, it starts to sound robotic.
What sucks even more is that bands are now combating crowds, expecting them to sound just like the record, by using real-time pitch correction. Some musicians call it, "using juice". It's not auto-tune, because it sounds natural. I think they have a playback that expects certain notes to be hit at certain times and forces whatever comes through to go to those notes.
@@brdane never heard of this, we just play live as we are. What you hear is us nothinh else. We believe in our music and our ability to play our instruments without any help and cheats
@@zeljkomilojkovic That's the way to do it, friend. Good on you!
I was reading about the production on the Pixies' album 'Doolittle'. The guy told the producer he wanted the music to be "portable", not full of touches that couldn't be reproduced live. Really made the producer work for his money, but the result was one of the best alternative rock albums of the 80s.
Very well done video Glenn. You hit the shit nail on the head here! Truly terrible times.
Good old Frankenstein!!
Words of wisdom. Thank you, Glen.
i miss myspace so much. if myspace came back in todays market it would
absolutely kill facebook and possibly be the new youtube!.
I mean it's still around and that hasn't happened. I agree though, really miss it.
Hey man Maynard said it wasn't his fault lol.. i love how you talk to the audience man, you are my favorite YT producer/engineer
Myspace was the shit. Non toxic, customizable, had music on it. Man, we didn't know what we had... we really f'd up
7:17 - You said vicious circle, you immediately earned a like from me, Glenn. 👍
14:02 - Damn, I really wanted to give you another like for going to see Jinjer!
Love this essay! However, I believe throwing the metronome is not a good statement. I understand you meant using it at the exact moment of recording, but many guitarists might misinterpret this and stop using it altogether. This could result in them becoming part of the 95% of musicians who struggle with recording. A metronome is key. Study with it-it's important! Just make sure to internalize it.
You need a metronome for rhythmic stuff and not melodic stuff. Classical music without drums is melodic.
@@orlock20 I respectfully disagree, I believe metronome is so fundamental for practice in any role of western music. Thinking the metronome is optional is just going to work against you in the end.
@@orlock20 and weirdly, many classical musicians I know (my old music teacher, for instance) struggle with keeping in time.
@@orlock20 Classical music also relies on a conductor to stay in time.
@@brukernavn3409 The conductor is the time.which frequently changes throughout the piece.
Hi Glenn....61 year old rocker here. I hear you. Great video content story/info. Excellent video editing 😊
10 seconds ago is diabolical (Im sorry i never get to say it)
I watch, I enjoy, I listen and try to learn! As someone who's now attempting to change their sound from electronic to heavier stuff and just now recording my own instruments, I appreciate all that I've learned on this channel (and the free IR's!.. already put em to good use!). I think this is my first comment so ... f you, Glenn! 🤘🤘
As opposed to the jealousy and backstabbing that goes on in your local scene? I fail to see how Facebook is the main problem here. The problem is human nature. My favorite quote from Hunter S. Thompson regarding the music biz "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
I'm really digging this type of content you're making now, Glenn. It's good stuff.
Rick beatoff?
Clout dad?
MySpace was so dope! We had a community of musicians, managers, and promotors all in our local area because of the networking on it. I was in 4 bands at one point and we all played together. Once all in the same night. It was so much fun. I recorded several bands and helped design some album and page art. Listening to music on their page was so satisfying. Reading comments, booking shows, making new fans, finding gigs for performing and recording..... It was unlike anything I had ever experienced. The music scene was super hot back then. I would go to a nightclub to dance and shit or a concert and people recognized us. The community was tight. It was sick AF!
I'm coming to the conclusion that modern life is just kinda shit in general
I mean, they've been saying that since I was a kid and that was 40 years ago.
Some videos really deserve a thumbs up and this is one of them.
I really like your take on this Glenn... I've always liked live production, and recordings derived from live gigs. Maybe it's just my 54 turns around the sun. I don't know, nor do I care. The music I make makes me happy. I don't post it anywhere. Thanks Glenn!
Freaking loved this !! You're right in every way ! We need more content creators, commentors and musicians to back up these glorious viewpoints 🤘 The world has gone to shits, and its time to rebuild and care about what's real instead of caring about your own fears!! Its time to say stop to bullshit ! # that !
Oh man, the "people will only interact to put you down" thing is beyond true. I was part of a group that was focused on HOW we got sounds in recordings we liked or made (studio equipment/gear used, mixing style, etc etc) and when I posted a song I recorded, without fail some guitar player only commented to tell me my bends weren't perfectly in pitch and nothing else.
I was around the my space era, but it was more to the end when I was a freshman in highschool, but my high school focused on academics than physical sports.
I saw literal flyers of local acts, that were not some group of teenagers just started a band and shit out a performance at a relatives birthday party.
They had a my space pages at the time and fostered creativity. Yeah we had a metal act that was a grindcore copy but that was the only one there, as they at least the performed at the school talent show on the second year, and gave us a new sound. Sadly that band isn't hear because graduation.
You have a point, the music scene, gate keeping culture, and the unwillingness to experiment will just create "copy and paste" bands that will never see anything outside of the bubble.
The entire process today has changed, and everything that you said Glenn, hits the nail right on the head.
Another UA-camr even talked about the state of modern metal, as anything new was criticized and degraded, and gatekeeped by older metal bands.
My dad has gotten me into bands like Metallica, guns n roses, slayer, Megadeth, anthrax, and many more, he even rocked the metal look, right down the snake skinned boots, and I still have them.
Great video, and I learned a lot Glenn.
I’m only a third of the way in and I already love this! UA-cam creation is also a cesspool of negative feedback
Glen you are awesome for the sale on all the plugins and courses I have been waiting for a deal like this to come along. Also agree 100 percent with you with this video topic. My first and only band I was ever truly proud I was a part of was on and thanks to MySpace. I miss those days so much and the days when we the average musician could get discovered and take our income to a level where we could make a living was more able to be achieved without already being a band selling out stadiums or having millions of subscribers and likes on UA-cam likes. I'm old and today I am content with making music just to do it and share it with friends who will listen to it and appreciate the time and effort I put into it and of course my wife and kids. This deal would definitely make this easier on me and much better results than I am currently getting so again Thank You for offering this to all of us tonally picky guitar players. Hello from Xenia Ohio
That OG Garageband was awesome. You could enter your song into a category pool of sorts, you'd review a number of other bands' songs (10 or 15, can't remember) and yours would get reviewed in return. My band made it into a couple of top something lists and I discovered some great artists along the way. Criticism without trolling. I miss that model.
“Band practice with a bar” Nailed it right on the head Glen. I started playing in bands at 13, back then MySpace was a powerful tool to network, grow audiences and keep the scene together. Whether it was a dive bar or a venue, my city had plenty of bands of all genres and shows to see. Twenty years later, Friday and Saturday nights at the remaining stages can be as empty as a Tuesday afternoon. Makes me wonder how it would be to be 13 again plying my first shows in 2024.
Hey Glenn. Love your channel. Spot on commentary delivered with grind house grit, metal madness and head banging highlights.
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Glenn, thank you for stating this! Before autotune, nothing was perfect! Even Rush made mistakes! But it gave every recording character! Mistakes were made in every recording and from every multi-million dollar recording studio! Humans aren't perfect! That's why "perfection" in songs actually SUCK! Every band that will knock other bands for making mistakes are NOT perfect either!
Glenn, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT! This was inspiring! We haven't had real, powerful music since the 90's. Nothing was perfect there! Alice in Chains, Sound Garden, Nirvana, prided themselves on spontaneity, not perfection!
Thanks again Glenn!
Just discovered this channel today because of some Reddit trolls. Well, that backfired on them because you now have one more subscriber!
Hey glenn! Im one of your American fans! I know you touched on it really briefly, but im one of the ones that was inspired to play music for real after playing games like guitar hero and rock band. I have no doubt that my music taste and even passion for the guitar and other instruments would be very different had it not been for that era of passion and creativity. (I suck at playing, but i still enjoy it anyway)
G'day Glenn. Here in Newcastle Australia, we had a massive music scene back in the 80's & 90's. You talk to people who were in bands back then and they could play gig after gig, making their way from pub to pub along the main street over the course of the night. They honed their chops and turned into great musicians who could put on a great live show. All those venues are gone now. There are still some amazing musicians around, some creating original music, but the days of heading out knowing you had a smorgasbord of original live music all within a 15 minute walk are gone. Sounds overly sentimental, but I think it was a better time. Take care mate
Glad to see you mention Jaded (3:35). They were fun to see live!
don't forget Dino Jelusick! that kid from croatia is an excellent metal singer. his band is called Dirty Shirley and a great song to start with them is named "Here comes the King", which has a George Lynch cameo. check it out! it's excellent. he also joined Whitesnake to replace Coverdale on vocals.
I like the imperfect older music because, even thoughthe verse or chorus may be repetitive, I can generally pick out exactly where the song is going because of the imperceptible mistakes that we ignore as we listen to the song. Logistics sometimes require our band to record tracks separately, I prefer to record tracks "live on the floor". The energy, the raw emotion in the performance is captured instead of a sterile, "flawless", emotionless recording. I appreciate what you do. Go easy on the bass guitarists.
This video is so inspiring. I just got done recording a song for myself and have been a bit self conscious about if it's "perfect" or not.... But the reality is no one really gives a shit!!! Perfection is boring!! Thanks for the advice!
Really good points Glenn. I haven’t watched your mix reviews a ton but I’ve found it’s a pretty damn positive forum. I think you should mention that rather than how awful the songs are. Maybe I was lucky but when I listened the songs weren’t bad at all.
Great video man!!! I agree with every point you make... I usually can stick with bands that bring something new to the table, specially in regards to song writting
We got both Chris and Lane in the 80’s-90’s. We were blessed.
Doooood awesome shout out to Thrust! I have one of their CD’s from back in the day. Been to a few shows of theirs. Totally underrated band.
All of this. Thank you Glenn for saying the quiet parts out loud.
Was my music scene booming in 2005? Ever hear of Taking Back Sunday? I'm from Long Island, NY. The music scene here was UNREAL because of them, and so many other bands!
Obviously, this ain't just a metal problem. Great analysis, Glenn.
I remember opening my FB account because a local band I was in wanted to get in front of this new tech. After years of myspace I was seriously disappointed when I logged in. I think my FB picture is still from about 2010 and I can't be bothered to even log in to just delete my account. Worst thing that ever happened to local musicians - even us who weren't good enough to make original music. At one point we could guarantee a bar a certain customer base just by showing them our myspace account with the listings from people who were interested in a show. Sure, not everyone showed up, but if you get a bunch of people saying they may go then it's pretty good odds you'll get at least 10-40% which was enough for most bars to double their expectations on a Friday or Saturday night,. Facebook was made for college students to find each other when bored in their dorm rooms and really hasn't changed since - and for that job it seems perfect. Loved the rant.
I did have to giggle after you just talked about Jinjer then went on to rant about all the bands that lack vocals though! Tatiana would definitely say...hold my beer while I go belt this out!
One of you finest videos Glenn. Full of truth.
wow so spot on glen \m/ esp about the comments or lack of comments.. every muso should watch this. : )
I grew up in Charlottesville, VA, home to artists such as the Dave Matthews Band, Chris Daughtry, Bella Morte and Earth to Andy. We once had a flourishing punk and gothic industrial rock music scene. Before it was torn down, Trax Nightclub hosted concerts for almost every single alternative rock band's North American tour in the 90s and 2000s. Now all we have is light adult contemporary rock, blues and folk music filling the theater and restaurant stages. Corporations have taken over the listener-supported radio stations that once hosted shows for specific music genres and local artists. And Myspace was the information sharing platform for all of this.
I loved Trax. I had the great privilege of taking lessons from Tony Lopacinski of Earth to Andy in the early outties. He gave me a CD of his solo album Face for my 30th birthday. Sad that he passed so young.
@@jasonwampler7101 I remember when Tony made the move to Nashville and became the touring guitarist for Train.
@williamduvall2800 yeah the party was just as he was getting ready to move to Nashville. Six months later, I also had to move from the area. Tony was a great guy. And Still After You is the best reverse delay solo ever.
On the topic of the human element: I recently got back into listening to Exhumed. Cookie monster vocals, I know. But what makes their early albums interesting to me is that their first drummer didn't use a metronome at all and his drumming is all over the place, but that just makes it sound so much more unhinged, it absolutely fits the music. Sometimes being too precise is just being too sterile
It's the mistakes and inaccuracies that adds character to songs. That's why live albums were all the rage for decades, except for those that constantly bitched about about how it didn't sound like the original studio recording. Now, it's those bitchers that are editing the music. As for discovering obscure bands, let's start a movement to bring Gimme Metal back, where musicians, producers, label A&R guys, etc, had radio shows of bands music they love now and the ones that sculpted them into the musician/professional they are now.
A lot of those live albums were actually more studio creations since they did overdubs later on.
True, they wanted to make a more marketable product for the consumer, but still, live albums were desirable to many because they offer a different take to familiar songs from favorite artists. Now it gets shady when bands take demos and alternative studio recordings and added crowd sounds to make fake live albums, but Type O Negative's "Origin of the Feces" and GnR's "Live Like a Suicide" did this and came out great.
It's all hobby for me. I've been happy with playing Garage Band level stuff since 1984. Now I have fun just recording at home. It would be fun to put my music out there for people to check out. It's a shame there isn't a Myspace type page now.
MySpace was the bomb! My band uploaded our first 5-song demo in 2008 and almost immediately started gaining fans from around the world!
I wish I had a picture of what my page looked like. I think I uploaded some tracks, but I don’t remember. I suppose I could try the Wayback Machine to see if it crawled the page.
don't forget to blame youtube also. I refer to music since 2010 as "youtube music". i miss the days of myspace. i remember going to plenty of shows from plenty of artists. and now it's gone downhill. HAhaaa Freedom Fries. I still refer to French Fries as Freedom Fries and I get odd looks from so many people. it's great. Thanks for this info cos it helps some of us who wanna help record bands get better and sound better. It's something we all need to be reminded of.
Man, you couldn’t be more right. Myspace days were better, but my local scene still wasn’t very supportive of each other. Bands hated on the more talented bands. It was ridiculous.
I’m from Byron Bay Australia and it was EXPLODING in the MySpace days with Parkway Drive getting more and more traction.
Parkway is still huge and I’m American. Northlane sold out our one venue last night, and Alphawolf was there recently too, and they do really well in America.
The internet revolutionized how music and art gets distributed nowadays.
If one wants to capitalize on it - Go for it. There's nothing wrong with that.
If you're an artist who does it for art's sake (our work is going to haunt the world long after it's rid of us), go for that.
I'm ambivalent about it from an artistic standpoint.
"Yeah, that's a really good job," I'll admit about this or that. But I absolutely hate materialism as a motive for it.
F--- that and anyone entrenched in it.
Up here? You guys in Windsor are the "South Detroit" for us.
My mixing:
I play a track through my mini mixer and play my guitar through it and record what comes out the PA. Lol
Taking your point, may I just speak in defence of the grid: it is as likely to inspire as any other instrument. That precision digital studio techniques are being abused doesn't surprise guitars, string sections, choirs or anything else that has been used tastelessly over the millennia. I also wonder if some musicians have benefitted from hearing what on-pitch vocals and on-time drums sound like. Anyway, knowing what's possible with the laptop now, it makes me all the more appreciative when I hear a local act (like Spacebar, Exeter UK) that is authentically tight live.
I spend more time on UA-cam than any other social network...and this sight is one of my favorites !!!😊
Me too. I heard a guy the other day say it has become the town square.
The last 2 months I had the distinct pleasure of becoming friends with famed producer Ron St. Germain. Such a talent. We discussed the current state of music streaming. He told me that over a 6 month period where the catalog of music he’s associated with, earned Spotify $5 million. His royalty check? $178. While I love recording and releasing our material, the ROI is simply the love of it, while paying to make the music. Any advice from the streaming folks is 😵💫😵💫😵💫