@@WoWHubYT I hope so. As a guy sitting there nov 2004, I want classic, but I don't want to play the same thing over and over. I just think there is a very sizable audience thirsty for a harder edge MMO that doesn't hand hold, and doesn't apologize for being difficult. Is modern blizzard capable of even giving us that?
i hope they keep season of discovery stuff for the most part, at least in some form. Mage healing is amazing and I do not want to give it up. That said I think what classic wow needs are systems for players to progress horizontally. no level cap increases as that brings bloat, no endlessly increasing ilvl making old content obsolete. What WoW classic needs is evergreen content, not disposable content
Totally agree. That’s a big obstacle. Ironically, classic wow is the game that kept all of its content relevant throughout its entire life span so if there’s one game to do it in…
wow can 100% add some horizontal content in a classic pluss scenario that doesnt involve vertically adding more tiers. more quests in the lvl 50-60 zones or a new zone, battlegrounds, leveling dungeons, secrets, adding to professions, new races. it would all be done in the spirit of classic and would be really fun.
Sadly. They really just need to do what blizzard does best and copy and improve an already existing system from Ever Quest. EQ has classic progression servers that go up every 1-2 years. It is literally the most popular way to play that game since 2014. Usually there is a PVE server and a PVP server that go live. Fresh start for all characters, with rewards being rotated to different quests/zones, so BiS items are never in the exact same spot with each roll out. Then there is a server wide progression that unlocks the raid tiers and level caps. Once a percentage of the server has completed a raid tier. The next tier and level cap goes up automatically. It's such a good system for older content. It incentivizes hard core meta players to include and invite new players into groups and raids, push new players to get good gear, and for veterans not "sell" runs/gold/gear. Since success is applied to the overall progression of players on the server moving towards the next tier. As even if the top 2% complete it doesn't really do much to unlock the next tier/expansion. Making gold at the expense of sweat lords doesn't help. It really does take a lot of the botting/exploitative behavior out of the equation. Though not completely. Since everyone is working toward the goal of rapidly unlocking the next stage of progression on the server. Which is kind of the fun of those servers. Breaking the server record of unlocking tiers faster and faster. Sort of a race between servers. Which secondarily it often makes "Smaller" servers better. Since progression is tracked for the server. So, streamer/wannabe goon squad/mega guilds trying to zerg-rush progression handicap themselves by flooding the servers which can hurt the progression. You only join if you really intend to play. Not "try it out" casue your buddy said you should.
They should do Classic+ IMO. Basically use todays graphics and mess around a bit in the class balance, abilities and talent trees. That is all we need.
Yeah that’s annoying. I think because they are only transferring to PvE servers that restriction won’t be in place. The real thing im pissed about is that they won’t go to a PvP server which is what I want to play once my HC toon dies
I think new raids and dungeons, and maybe some more sandboxy stuff added could be cool. Instead of making it all about raid logging. OSRS could be a good thing to aspire to, but then again it’s a completely diff game so maybe it won’t work who knows
If they do make a classic+ (which I don't think they should after the way the community reacted to SoD). It tells you they will complain about classic+. But IF they did it... I'd hope they do away with the old time played based pvp system and gave us a skill based ranking system... RBGs & Arenas. We need an MMR system. Climbing MMR is simply what pvpers like to do . Give every healing spec a magic dispel. It's ridiculous that as a Resto Druid I couldn't magic dispel my team mates. It made priests the only real competitive option in pvp which is BS. And allow mana using classes to not go oom as fast. I thought the runes in SoD were awesome. They expanded on the idea of being able to make a hybrid build which was a big thing people brought up when giving reasons as to why they liked the old talent tree. I liked the new specs. Giving more classes the option to Tank & Heal made it easier to fill groups as well as more ways to play those roles. I loved the level up raids and don't see any reason to not have them in every form of classic that is released from here on out. I honestly don't care what else they do as long as I can magic dispel as any healing spec and as long as there's an MMR to climb in pvp. It blows my mind that people prefer regular vanilla over SoD. I guess they don't care about class balance and I guess they don't want classic+. I guess they don't care about hybrid builds. The community really contradicted itself if you ask me. They just want to go fresh again. Brain rot behavior.
I would love to know what exactly people don't like about SoD? People say they don't like it and there's SOOO much wrong with it but what is it exactly? Looking at OG Vanilla WHAT does it have that SoD doesn't? I'd love to have a conversation about this. Someone needed to make this video and ask these important questions so thank you for that @WoWhub. 👍
I hope they dont progress past Mist of Pandaria lol. Im fine with Pandaria, but I feel like anything past this is closer to retail wow experience rather than classic
Kinda wunder if they sood add pally to horde and shman to ally that way less ppl r forced to go to a faction they don’t like I love the horde but I main pally so I have to be ally
Can we just get a alternate timeline? A classic restart? Thats what everyone wants. We want classic in a different direction.
I think this just buys a little time while they still figure out what to do with a true viable classic+
@@WoWHubYT I hope so. As a guy sitting there nov 2004, I want classic, but I don't want to play the same thing over and over. I just think there is a very sizable audience thirsty for a harder edge MMO that doesn't hand hold, and doesn't apologize for being difficult. Is modern blizzard capable of even giving us that?
This is what I wanted. Classic but like "What If?" from the comics. Change the story. Turn it into WoW2.
@@NighDarke Would love to see that too
5 more hours for classic cant wait!
i hope they keep season of discovery stuff for the most part, at least in some form. Mage healing is amazing and I do not want to give it up.
That said I think what classic wow needs are systems for players to progress horizontally. no level cap increases as that brings bloat, no endlessly increasing ilvl making old content obsolete.
What WoW classic needs is evergreen content, not disposable content
Totally agree. That’s a big obstacle. Ironically, classic wow is the game that kept all of its content relevant throughout its entire life span so if there’s one game to do it in…
wow can 100% add some horizontal content in a classic pluss scenario that doesnt involve vertically adding more tiers. more quests in the lvl 50-60 zones or a new zone, battlegrounds, leveling dungeons, secrets, adding to professions, new races. it would all be done in the spirit of classic and would be really fun.
Sadly. They really just need to do what blizzard does best and copy and improve an already existing system from Ever Quest. EQ has classic progression servers that go up every 1-2 years. It is literally the most popular way to play that game since 2014. Usually there is a PVE server and a PVP server that go live. Fresh start for all characters, with rewards being rotated to different quests/zones, so BiS items are never in the exact same spot with each roll out. Then there is a server wide progression that unlocks the raid tiers and level caps. Once a percentage of the server has completed a raid tier. The next tier and level cap goes up automatically. It's such a good system for older content. It incentivizes hard core meta players to include and invite new players into groups and raids, push new players to get good gear, and for veterans not "sell" runs/gold/gear. Since success is applied to the overall progression of players on the server moving towards the next tier. As even if the top 2% complete it doesn't really do much to unlock the next tier/expansion. Making gold at the expense of sweat lords doesn't help. It really does take a lot of the botting/exploitative behavior out of the equation. Though not completely. Since everyone is working toward the goal of rapidly unlocking the next stage of progression on the server. Which is kind of the fun of those servers. Breaking the server record of unlocking tiers faster and faster. Sort of a race between servers. Which secondarily it often makes "Smaller" servers better. Since progression is tracked for the server. So, streamer/wannabe goon squad/mega guilds trying to zerg-rush progression handicap themselves by flooding the servers which can hurt the progression. You only join if you really intend to play. Not "try it out" casue your buddy said you should.
They should do Classic+ IMO. Basically use todays graphics and mess around a bit in the class balance, abilities and talent trees. That is all we need.
I’m worried that if my hard core toon dies it might not be able to go to regular classic because it’s faction is full
Yeah that’s annoying. I think because they are only transferring to PvE servers that restriction won’t be in place. The real thing im pissed about is that they won’t go to a PvP server which is what I want to play once my HC toon dies
No need for anything crazy for classic+ just add some improvements, like fix mana isues for ret and prot paladin and add a taunt.
I think new raids and dungeons, and maybe some more sandboxy stuff added could be cool. Instead of making it all about raid logging. OSRS could be a good thing to aspire to, but then again it’s a completely diff game so maybe it won’t work who knows
@WoWHubYT Some want more changes, some less. I for one just want have a bit more viable classes.
Make soul shards stack aswell. The game just needs minor changes tbh
no that would fking ruin paladins in classic era
just play tbc
If they do make a classic+ (which I don't think they should after the way the community reacted to SoD). It tells you they will complain about classic+.
But IF they did it... I'd hope they do away with the old time played based pvp system and gave us a skill based ranking system... RBGs & Arenas. We need an MMR system. Climbing MMR is simply what pvpers like to do .
Give every healing spec a magic dispel. It's ridiculous that as a Resto Druid I couldn't magic dispel my team mates. It made priests the only real competitive option in pvp which is BS.
And allow mana using classes to not go oom as fast.
I thought the runes in SoD were awesome. They expanded on the idea of being able to make a hybrid build which was a big thing people brought up when giving reasons as to why they liked the old talent tree.
I liked the new specs. Giving more classes the option to Tank & Heal made it easier to fill groups as well as more ways to play those roles.
I loved the level up raids and don't see any reason to not have them in every form of classic that is released from here on out.
I honestly don't care what else they do as long as I can magic dispel as any healing spec and as long as there's an MMR to climb in pvp.
It blows my mind that people prefer regular vanilla over SoD. I guess they don't care about class balance and I guess they don't want classic+. I guess they don't care about hybrid builds. The community really contradicted itself if you ask me.
They just want to go fresh again.
Brain rot behavior.
I would love to know what exactly people don't like about SoD?
People say they don't like it and there's SOOO much wrong with it but what is it exactly?
Looking at OG Vanilla WHAT does it have that SoD doesn't?
I'd love to have a conversation about this.
Someone needed to make this video and ask these important questions so thank you for that @WoWhub. 👍
I’d play TBC era, I’m not into the whole progression thingy. If I am forced to wrath again I’d rather my characters stayed in vanilla era
"nostalgia bait" lmao classic is the most replayable version. it's the only one that is actually fun for sandbox wpvp. you're crazy man.
I hope they dont progress past Mist of Pandaria lol. Im fine with Pandaria, but I feel like anything past this is closer to retail wow experience rather than classic
I can't believe we have even reached MoP Classic lol. If you said that during the pre release of 2019 classic I would have said you are insane.
MoP & WoD were the best expansions for pvp.
@@Az00069 But other than that it was dogshit
Kinda wunder if they sood add pally to horde and shman to ally that way less ppl r forced to go to a faction they don’t like I love the horde but I main pally so I have to be ally
They just need to come up with a new Warcraft MMO.