You have my respect as CC for HSR. So many other CC just recommend builds based on numbers, calculations but without actual gameplays and testings. Please keep it up
No problem lol. I don't blame them its so hard and EXPENSIVE trying to get this stuff done for each character. Theorycrafting is generally the easier route to go and some creators are correct on most things like Grimro with 134 speed and etc even if at the time he mention it was really hard to get on certain characters without insane luck. I will try and put stuff to practice as if you noticed in this video I also took the Silver wolf Skill>Ultimate loop for a test run (this one was he was a bit off on) doesn't play out like that.
@@CyanTril Most of them are correct on only theoretical numbers but not practically and there were some very wrong ideas like Gepard and Bailu were said to be trash. Can you do a video on Herta as well :)? I used her to get 3 stars on MoC 10 and people trash her so much. Also some of the videos about her are just so wrong
@@thangd.2115 Agreed, what I hate the most those TC not even try/ built the character they said trashed. And sometimes same thing happens when they make a character guide. If they don't have experience about that character they really shouldn't act smart
@@thangd.2115 dreamy has a build on a herta thats good but i think most ppl trash her because of her passive like her followup is only a one time attack so if muktiple ppl dont get below 50 percent she wont do additional spins which is why ppl only use her for mob farming not so much bosses.
BRONYA USERS: Ignore Speed testing because she will make it not as effective and will make HP% equal if not better (Especially if E2) not matter what you run. If you want flexibility to run without her look into Speed boots.
So hear me out, with speed boots+ bronya, blade can get 2 turns effectively when hes faster than bronya. SO!! can that 2 turn dmg by a weaker blade[critdmg/speed] be better than a stronger blade[ critdmg/hp%] If someone tests then let me know too
@@ApaYaa2nd I won’t talk for stuff I haven’t tested so just blade. Her ability to control a unit is very strong there are some cases where having the unit be faster than bronya can result in a very strong 3 skill point combo however this didn’t work too great with my blade personally
Seeing everything side by side makes it so much easier to decide on Body and Boot based on the RNG; enemy targeting, Tingyun's ult time, Luocha's heals landing on Blade etc. A valuable source of information 👍 Also 'Best of 10~' Cooking for that long made you a Michelin star lmao
I am utterly captivated by the exceptional content you consistently provide on your channel. Your dedication to crafting such engaging and enlightening videos is truly commendable. Each upload is a masterpiece of artistry and knowledge, leaving me both inspired and awestruck. Your professionalism in conveying complex ideas is unparalleled, and your attention to detail is remarkable. Allow me to express my profound gratitude for the countless hours of entertainment and enlightenment your channel has bestowed upon me. Your passion and expertise shine through every frame, and I am sincerely grateful for the enriching experiences you share with your audience. Sorry for bad English.
not true, you actually want 2 speed more on your Blade than your Bronya. So that Bronya play right after Blade to give him a second turn. First speed threshold is Bronya at 121 speed and Blade at 123. And if you want an even better turn order is Bronya at 134 and Blade at 136 speed but this ask almost perfect relic stats for both of them.
@@tnykuuh I have a 141 Blade and 140 speed bronya E2 and unfortunately it does not play out that way once fight goes longer. Only recommended for 0 Cycle if you have enough damage. Can check my previous video if you want to see footage.
For team builds - CrtDmg/Spd would look better in terms of damage but HP/Spd is a pretty good general build and myt be easier to build with only a slight damage drop off.
The team battle test was hard to keep up with. The speed on the left 2 changed the rotation of the team making the left 2 runs, quite different from the right 2 runs. Also, Luocha's healing made the different teams get different amount of stacks for Blade's passive due to RNG nature of enemy attacks. Not to mention, SW was applying random weaknesses, to the point comparing damage numbers was difficult. All of this RNG made it difficult to see which run got lucky and which run got unlucky. If a table could have been shown with amount of turns taken, whether the run had good/bad RNG and some observations from the runs like how tanky/fast were the runs, it would make things much clearer. But still, a good video for those curious about this. They will have to watch through the team battle portion of the video multiple times since its very difficult to make sense of all of it in one watch. Also, I know that you can tell how many runs each team took by seeing how many turns are left at the end, but you cannot tell how good was the RNG and whether the AI made a lot of bad mistakes, etc.
I made some changes in my most recent video, I won't be using Auto battle anymore for team battle so hopefully that will make things a bit easier but it will never be synced up because I have to think lol to make most optimal plays. I dropped SW for Pela not even if she isn't fully build to make that improvement as well. Let me know what you think and stuff wanna see in the future.
@@CyanTril A table at the end of the video to comment on the rng of the run and any extra comment you would want to make would be very helpful for those watching just once.
It shows that HP/HP is the worst in a team setup but the other 3 are about the same but crit D/HP or Speed are considered the best damage wise. The test cant assume that all builds has 100% crit rate after all so you cant really take the clear time for granted. Maybe the test would be more accurate if he had e6 yukong.
@@Qopai wouldnt say its the worst it finished in one cycle after the others but the damage on occasion was higher that crit/hp or not that much of a difference when comparing the numbers tbh
@@Qopa hmm im still trying to build mine but ill prob go hp hp untill i get better substats or mainstats for the crit damage build since those r kinda hard to come by for me lol
@@cryssyyxx I mean, I'm rocking 4 off-set build on blade and he has 61% crit, 170% crit dmg. It's kinda funny but I still haven't gotten a single HP piece to put on blade at all despite farming the domain since release lmao.
What a great content! Looks like our playstyle depends on us, Blade havers! Crit D / HP should be the go through for E0 Blade with Bronya and HP/HP looks fun with E2 Blade with Bronya also. Since I don't have a Bronya, I'm happy with my Crt D / Speed build with my current team: Blade | Welt | Luocha | Yukong or Yanqing
So which one is better in terms of all? I mean its hard to decide cuz its also depends on the substat right? And what team is best for him since i dont have Luocha and Silverwolf im using Bailu and Bronya should i use Pela to replace Silverwolf?
Critical Damage for Damage / HP for Solo (harder content) /. As for team based on who you have I would probably use Natasha over bailu because my biggest issues with Blade is when he is Imprisoned /Frozen / dominated and etc anything that stops him from using his follow up attacks. In fights this cannot happen just swap back to bailu. Core would be Blade Bronya Pela + Healer depending on the fight. You could also drop healer for more Damage if your team is geared well enough and the fight is short.
@@hekcer123yup they are but if you are doing solo content like blade solo run Or you just want him to be tanky Either way there’s a difference in dmg but it not that big if you have proper support team with him So both option are good depends on you what you prefer. Go for whatever option you feel comfortable with
It kinda feel like you watching those rtx graphic card versus other graphic card but its hsr. Amazing content and will surely clear those doubt instead of trusting those theory crafter.Hope for more comparison like this because it really does bring value for us to decide.
My blade is running Crit Dmg Body, Speed boots and HP rope. Its his general build and can work with any team. Even if you have bronya, you need blade to be a turn earlier than bronya so blade can hit the enemies twice in 1 cycle (his turn and bronya skill) and also faster build up of his follow-up atk stacks You can use Energy regen rope so you can burst more frequently and use HP boots instead of speed. But this build might yield lesser dmg. I havent compared w/ the general build but ive tried it in MOC and it can three star floor 10
sry i want ask did 2nd bonus ornament still take effect from other source. i mean with 2 stack Longevous Disciple give you +16% crit. so i only need build blade crit around 54% right?
Can you test 2 relic sets for him, inert salsotto and rutilant arena? I wanna see if having more dmg on skill and basic atk is better than to have more dmg on ult and follow up atk.
@@CyanTril nahhh it's ok... Just need to pause in the damage numbers or just slow it down during the same damage show case... So it's easier to figure out the damage nos... In this lay out we can easily know which build clears faster... So it's great 👍🏻😃... And thank you again for that😀
@@CyanTrilif I may make a suggestion. I saw a similar Youtubber do this type of editing in Star Rail too (split screen, damage comparison) - I suggest stopping and zooming in every time there’s damage to properly compare them and for us viewers to distinguish.
Video was already very informative. but this suggestion will take you to another level rather that the rest. I prefer your build than other theorycrafter and faul mouth like tectrone.. keep up the good work!@@kokocute123
Yes I only found out about this recently involving the drama but from my test it’s right. It’s not a huge difference and the sustainability helps with the additional health especially with solo.
my Blade relics didn't rolled speed, I have Bronya with 136speed. I got hp and speed boots with pretty much the same stats, if I use speed boots I would be at 122 speed. Its that worth it or should I just use hp boots and stay at 97 speed?
that why i build my blade hp/hp, cause i think why we need speed for dps that cause more dmg if he getting hit and using follow up attk, just using speed for his support and that going better
Honestly I don't think it matters too much only when using Arlan does HP factor in more because you need to be below a certain amount for things to work. I would say HP/HP is good if you have a strong DPS in the first part of the fight as you will still get 3* no problems and won't have to struggle otherwise focus on damage.
If we are speaking from damage perspective Critical Damage is by far superior in this comparison. Even with critical damage sub on hp% main even with a decent amount of rolls into critical damage it still won't match. However I would probably go with a optimal HP% piece (Speed/Critical DMG*mainly rolling into this*/Critical Rate/Effect Res or Attack) over a sub optimal Critical damage piece running only 1 good stat like HP or Speed. As for Solo purpose you need to go HP main unless some god tier rolls into HP on every other piece of gear, unless its easy content but I don't see a point of doing solo on that personally.
@@jammed_yam for now yes I wouldn’t stress over getting a new piece when you got lucky with this. You would need to get just as lucky again with a critical damage piece to match this so it’s not worth stressing unless you are super min max for small gains.
@@jammed_yam also you aren’t looking for critical in the critical damage piece while it’s welcome you are actually looking for HP% and Speed all three if possible(This is assuming you have his light cone)
Does Hp% Buffs him , Like Genshin impact's Hutao ? If so then I'll go for hp% boots without any regrets i have bronya but I'm f2p too having arlans weapon on him(blade)
Can i ask about rope and sphere effect. Example inert salsotto set. Do we need to have exactly above 50cr build or cr buff during ingame battle still count? Idk how to ask hope anyone could understand 😅
I have a Blade with 8493 HP, 60 Crit/160CD, 108 spd running LD set/IS set and have Bronya using E on him every turn. Almost never have to worry about Blade dying and he hits super hard with Bronya boosting him or hard enough to wreck enemy on MOC 9/10. I tried spd boots but they didn’t have good hp substats, the extra spd without good hp stats makes Blade much riskier to play bc he doesn’t have that extra huge hp bankroll for variance dmg he’ll take, as long as he lives he’s a force of nature and will win.
I got blade but in which team should I put him? I don't have bornya, pela. I have (jing yuan, gepard, welt, bailu, ting yuan, natasha, shushang, Sampo, Asta and other free heroes) I want to make him main damage dealer.
Hard ask you are doing here. You could do Blade Yukong(free) / Bailu / March 7th. March 7th Skill on Blade and Auto attack while he has shield / Bailu auto attack only avoid healing with her unless team is low but almost never use her skill always ultimate, Yukong and Blade would need speed builds.
I still don`t know hoe to build my blade(e1), I have locha and bronya, and I`m thinking about this build. Body: crit damage, boots: spd, sphere: %wind damage, rope: %hp. is it good, or someone can recomend me something better?
The more you can get the better. You should aim for as much HP/CD as possible when looking at sub stats. I would say 6k-7k is okay for a DPS build. More the better
The problem with those two modes is they die in seconds for me so it would be like not that helpful I think. I am trying to focus on the current floors that don't have too much damage bonus. Also will be going 0 Turn attempts for testing now so that should fix the MOC buff affect.
Since i play blade as a tank/sub dps alongside selee...i will build him with hp and speed, ofc crit and cdm also in secondary stat bcz i want him more tanky but damaging
Sub stats matter a lot more luocha isn't required for blade and depending on the lightcone you use can make things a bit more tricky. I would go HP/HP if you first team is very strong however if you don't really have a healer for team 2.
my blade ia very strange i think he has 60%critrate and 80 critD i gave him a crit rate body for the new sphere that boosts skill dmg by 20% if crit rate is 70% or above 🤔 is it good or should i rebuild him
it literally has no effect on his skill because it deals 0 dmg and is just a buff that turns his basic attack into more dmg, not sure if the 20% basic attack buff is worth it alone
Hp virtually gives you: -more bulk -more dmg in which 40% increase equates 20% cdmg Ive no idea about the spd value on main stat but in theory you should find all pieces with HP so your man can overnuke the whole game and pray for some crit rolls and some dmg. Max investment blade, however, doesnt need you to find Crit rolls, just HP, effect res, spd and and cdmg because he naturally reaches 71 crit.
Rofl I was doing them before but a lot of people glossed over it so I was meh not that important. But since you asked Critical damage is the go to for purely damage if you want the fastest clear. HP% is more practical if you want sustainability and consistency (not having blade die).
So, will you compare HP orb vs Wind orb as well? It would be funny if you also take into account with Boots and Body piece so it would have like, 8 videos play at once. Although Ig you can make it 4 videos on 1st half, and the rest on the 2nd half.
@@Iwanttodie123 To be honest, I know from the start that Wind orb is better, and just like you said, one of the reason is you can still roll HP% subs but not Wind Damage subs. It just, some "certain cc" insist change CDMG Body to HP% Body for survivability, when you also can change Wind Orb to HP% orb. So I kinda curios if HP/HP/Wind is better or worse than CDMG/HP/HP while still have high HP.
@@CyanTril Thanks for your hardwork, although you don't have to apologize. Personally I don't mind waiting even after Blade's banner ends. Just release videos as you like it. You want to publish videos asap? Cool. You need more time before publish the video? Even better.
So Hp/Hp if you are just adding him in as a tank or even crit D Hp and Crit D and Speed if you have premium characters/well geared. Thanks for the informational video!
So hear me out, with speed boots+ bronya, blade can get 2 turns effectively when hes faster than bronya. SO!! can that 2 turn dmg by a weaker blade[critdmg/speed] be better than a stronger blade[ critdmg/hp%] If someone tests then let me know too
I would make both personally there are times you want him to be faster and there are times you want him to be tankier. I would say HP% is more used for this but both is nice
-yes, but you also need to take into account that hp is a defensive stat. it does make blade more tanky and able to sustain better if alone or if no luocha is there. -if the difference between them (if for example you get an HP body with double crit rolls and it rolls all into crit) is not that massive of a gap, you have a viable alternative, and as genshin proves, you will get good hp pieces with double crit more often than a crit piece with a crit substat. so less time investing on blade's relics that can go into his traces/cone/level/bronya's stuff/etc...
Obviously? They both completed the same thing with a 1 turn difference, 1 turn will never make or break your moc 3 star clears, but taking 3 hits instead of 2 is far more valuable
because all of his eidolons are either overall dmg increase or ult/followup (E1 being a massive nuke ult and E6 making his follow up 4 stacks instead of 5 which makes him do more of it for example)
I think salsotto Yh people probably gonna say theprycrafters chose rutilant arena but... imo Salsotto is better because his follow up and ult proc often whilst basic is just one thing and skill doesnt even do dmg Also the cr requirement is less
Salsotto because it increases dmg on his follow up and ult. Rutilant only increases dmg on his basic atk since he has no Skill dmg plus 70% crit rate is very high requirement.
Most people was skipping it so I just omitted it to save video length. However I will be adding it back realizing some people do use it. Simply put the damage difference is small but if you looking for damage go with Critical DMG% , HP% Is great for sustainability and Solo Fun with blade so don't be afraid to use it even more so if you have insane sub stats.
@@jus4455 With LC I can already get his crit up to 70%-80% with 170%-200% crit dmg, E2 would give him an additional 15% crit rate, so 85% to 95%. Going 4 set to me seems like an overkill so I would rather just go with either 4 set wind or 2 set wind and 2 set hp.
@@Qopa yes thats the fun in it with THE LC and the set he doesn't need a crit rate body anymore and few to none stats So you can focus on rolling more crit dmg Or if u have already a good ratio of crit You can actually put an HP body would be insaaane value
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You have my respect as CC for HSR. So many other CC just recommend builds based on numbers, calculations but without actual gameplays and testings. Please keep it up
No problem lol. I don't blame them its so hard and EXPENSIVE trying to get this stuff done for each character. Theorycrafting is generally the easier route to go and some creators are correct on most things like Grimro with 134 speed and etc even if at the time he mention it was really hard to get on certain characters without insane luck. I will try and put stuff to practice as if you noticed in this video I also took the Silver wolf Skill>Ultimate loop for a test run (this one was he was a bit off on) doesn't play out like that.
@@CyanTril Most of them are correct on only theoretical numbers but not practically and there were some very wrong ideas like Gepard and Bailu were said to be trash. Can you do a video on Herta as well :)? I used her to get 3 stars on MoC 10 and people trash her so much. Also some of the videos about her are just so wrong
@@thangd.2115 Agreed, what I hate the most those TC not even try/ built the character they said trashed. And sometimes same thing happens when they make a character guide. If they don't have experience about that character they really shouldn't act smart
@@thangd.2115 dreamy has a build on a herta thats good but i think most ppl trash her because of her passive like her followup is only a one time attack so if muktiple ppl dont get below 50 percent she wont do additional spins which is why ppl only use her for mob farming not so much bosses.
@cryssyyxx2955 I watched it, was a good one but still I'd to watch a CC with actual game play testing.
BRONYA USERS: Ignore Speed testing because she will make it not as effective and will make HP% equal if not better (Especially if E2) not matter what you run. If you want flexibility to run without her look into Speed boots.
So hear me out, with speed boots+ bronya, blade can get 2 turns effectively when hes faster than bronya.
SO!!
can that 2 turn dmg by a weaker blade[critdmg/speed] be better than a stronger blade[ critdmg/hp%]
If someone tests then let me know too
@@nedogw2 I dunno if you seen but yeah just check my previous video in the team battle portion.
Does this apply to any dps with bronya or blade specifically?
@@ApaYaa2nd I won’t talk for stuff I haven’t tested so just blade. Her ability to control a unit is very strong there are some cases where having the unit be faster than bronya can result in a very strong 3 skill point combo however this didn’t work too great with my blade personally
@@CyanTril ya ty. watched it after this one.
Great Stuff. Worth the Sub!!
Seeing everything side by side makes it so much easier to decide on Body and Boot based on the RNG; enemy targeting, Tingyun's ult time, Luocha's heals landing on Blade etc. A valuable source of information 👍 Also 'Best of 10~' Cooking for that long made you a Michelin star lmao
I am utterly captivated by the exceptional content you consistently provide on your channel. Your dedication to crafting such engaging and enlightening videos is truly commendable. Each upload is a masterpiece of artistry and knowledge, leaving me both inspired and awestruck. Your professionalism in conveying complex ideas is unparalleled, and your attention to detail is remarkable. Allow me to express my profound gratitude for the countless hours of entertainment and enlightenment your channel has bestowed upon me. Your passion and expertise shine through every frame, and I am sincerely grateful for the enriching experiences you share with your audience.
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@@BugCatLove its fucking cringe.
@@BugCatLove yes. English hard and not good mine. Problem?
@@BugCatLoveGrow up.
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This is exactly what my blade team looks like right now, so this is pretty helpfull!
If you have Bronya, you don't need speed on Blade. She's his turn.
That’s only if your blade is inherently faster your bronya, if not it’s better to go speed for two turns
@@deathmymannah, crit D and hp while having bronya is the right response
not true, you actually want 2 speed more on your Blade than your Bronya. So that Bronya play right after Blade to give him a second turn. First speed threshold is Bronya at 121 speed and Blade at 123. And if you want an even better turn order is Bronya at 134 and Blade at 136 speed but this ask almost perfect relic stats for both of them.
@@tnykuuh I have a 141 Blade and 140 speed bronya E2 and unfortunately it does not play out that way once fight goes longer. Only recommended for 0 Cycle if you have enough damage. Can check my previous video if you want to see footage.
I have spd boots in blade and i have bronya, do i need to farm for hp boots?
For team builds - CrtDmg/Spd would look better in terms of damage but HP/Spd is a pretty good general build and myt be easier to build with only a slight damage drop off.
The team battle test was hard to keep up with. The speed on the left 2 changed the rotation of the team making the left 2 runs, quite different from the right 2 runs. Also, Luocha's healing made the different teams get different amount of stacks for Blade's passive due to RNG nature of enemy attacks. Not to mention, SW was applying random weaknesses, to the point comparing damage numbers was difficult. All of this RNG made it difficult to see which run got lucky and which run got unlucky. If a table could have been shown with amount of turns taken, whether the run had good/bad RNG and some observations from the runs like how tanky/fast were the runs, it would make things much clearer.
But still, a good video for those curious about this. They will have to watch through the team battle portion of the video multiple times since its very difficult to make sense of all of it in one watch. Also, I know that you can tell how many runs each team took by seeing how many turns are left at the end, but you cannot tell how good was the RNG and whether the AI made a lot of bad mistakes, etc.
I made some changes in my most recent video, I won't be using Auto battle anymore for team battle so hopefully that will make things a bit easier but it will never be synced up because I have to think lol to make most optimal plays. I dropped SW for Pela not even if she isn't fully build to make that improvement as well. Let me know what you think and stuff wanna see in the future.
@@CyanTril A table at the end of the video to comment on the rng of the run and any extra comment you would want to make would be very helpful for those watching just once.
your unique content for Starrail is outstanding! This is exactly what I need, not long talks!
so basically,
solo: HP/HP Blade
team: Crit D/Speed or HP/Speed (depending on substats)
It shows that HP/HP is the worst in a team setup but the other 3 are about the same but crit D/HP or Speed are considered the best damage wise. The test cant assume that all builds has 100% crit rate after all so you cant really take the clear time for granted. Maybe the test would be more accurate if he had e6 yukong.
@@Qopai wouldnt say its the worst it finished in one cycle after the others but the damage on occasion was higher that crit/hp or not that much of a difference when comparing the numbers tbh
@@cryssyyxx it's about 1k-2k difference between CD and HP chest but I would go with crit dmg chest any day personally.
@@Qopa hmm im still trying to build mine but ill prob go hp hp untill i get better substats or mainstats for the crit damage build since those r kinda hard to come by for me lol
@@cryssyyxx I mean, I'm rocking 4 off-set build on blade and he has 61% crit, 170% crit dmg. It's kinda funny but I still haven't gotten a single HP piece to put on blade at all despite farming the domain since release lmao.
Oh so Gacha Smack guy was right 👍 thanks for the test
I actually had to look up this channel and omg the drama ROFL I didn't even know what was going on since I tend to stick to my own stuff.
Like Cyan, Gacha Smack did his own math and testing and they (surprise!) got similar results.
he was right all along
Gouba Certified: *Crying in the corner*
Exactly.
That solo 🔥🔥
Im happy with my Blade now 7960 HP - 123 Speed - 63% CritChance - 92% Crit Dmg - Lets me nicely tune to my 121 Brony
92 crit dmg is kinda garbage try using main stat crit dmg chest piece
I'm new to your chanel and I must say thank you for putting the effort of showing us the differences between each build.
I try my best to showcase actual gameplay that is realistic.
So really the dmg is close enough really between all the builds. Just with all HP you have more survivability.
ty for the amazing comparison for blade,its nice to get the details
No problem!
What a great content! Looks like our playstyle depends on us, Blade havers! Crit D / HP should be the go through for E0 Blade with Bronya and HP/HP looks fun with E2 Blade with Bronya also. Since I don't have a Bronya, I'm happy with my Crt D / Speed build with my current team:
Blade | Welt | Luocha | Yukong or Yanqing
LOL the Crit D/Speed DEFEAT is kinda funny ngl
They all got defeated besides the HP/HP lol
@@CyanTril 🤣 thank you for this, i know what i must do
Damn 141 spd blade, doesn’t he start from 97 😮
Yes his base speed is 97.
damn how to reach that speed
@@jonathandelrosario5843 rolling good speed sub stats with luck
@@CyanTril i hope everyone has luck 🥹 still cant decide wheter i should go wind damage or hp orb
Keeping my hp chest since it rolled 25 crt dmg and 6 crit rate.
That and speed boots seem to be working well.
Sick rolls I would totally use that
Wow! First time to have visited your channel and vide on HSR. I really do love the comparison side by side 🥰 Keep it up! Subscribed ❤
Thank you so much 😁
So which one is better in terms of all? I mean its hard to decide cuz its also depends on the substat right? And what team is best for him since i dont have Luocha and Silverwolf im using Bailu and Bronya should i use Pela to replace Silverwolf?
hp/hp is solid
Critical Damage for Damage / HP for Solo (harder content) /. As for team based on who you have I would probably use Natasha over bailu because my biggest issues with Blade is when he is Imprisoned /Frozen / dominated and etc anything that stops him from using his follow up attacks. In fights this cannot happen just swap back to bailu. Core would be Blade Bronya Pela + Healer depending on the fight. You could also drop healer for more Damage if your team is geared well enough and the fight is short.
@@CyanTril so crit dmg body and hp boots is best for blade? is hp body and boots hp good too?
@@hekcer123yup they are but if you are doing solo content like blade solo run
Or you just want him to be tanky
Either way there’s a difference in dmg but it not that big if you have proper support team with him
So both option are good depends on you what you prefer. Go for whatever option you feel comfortable with
@@CyanTrilBronya, Welt, Natasha and blade is a good team?
Yup I tried to tell the Twitch Drones that full HP scaling is better overall. HP/Wind is about the same
It kinda feel like you watching those rtx graphic card versus other graphic card but its hsr. Amazing content and will surely clear those doubt instead of trusting those theory crafter.Hope for more comparison like this because it really does bring value for us to decide.
thank you very much, this is really helped me 🙏🙏
Very interesting test. Thanks for the work you put. Seems Speed boots are significative but Crit/hp is close, maybe down to substats or survivability
For the HP-HP test in the team battle section, was tingyun meant to buff silver wolf?
Auto battle AI is beyond bad at this point in time lol
My blade is running Crit Dmg Body, Speed boots and HP rope. Its his general build and can work with any team. Even if you have bronya, you need blade to be a turn earlier than bronya so blade can hit the enemies twice in 1 cycle (his turn and bronya skill) and also faster build up of his follow-up atk stacks
You can use Energy regen rope so you can burst more frequently and use HP boots instead of speed. But this build might yield lesser dmg. I havent compared w/ the general build but ive tried it in MOC and it can three star floor 10
Was thinking whether i should build blade with crit body or hp
And this pops up. Nice
this is what im searching for! thanks a lot
sry i want ask did 2nd bonus ornament still take effect from other source. i mean with 2 stack Longevous Disciple give you +16% crit. so i only need build blade crit around 54% right?
Yes it should as far as I am to understand
Thanks for this that's exactly what i was wondering
Best compair i ever seen, keep it up 🤟🤟
i think i prefer HP/HP still on par with Crit D/HP
Even if you have bronya you can ignore the speed, adjust your team to his speed by making the debuffers go first, supports second and then him as last
Can you test 2 relic sets for him, inert salsotto and rutilant arena? I wanna see if having more dmg on skill and basic atk is better than to have more dmg on ult and follow up atk.
salsotto is better. he deals more dmg w/ his followups
my man tried to slip in the bronya flex and thought we wouldn't notice. Jokes aside this is such a great comparison video.
No it wasn't a flex someone brought it up and it does affect how blade performs.
So as long as you re not running him solo cd/speed or hp/ speed are better as main stats... gotya... thanks a lot... it was hell of confusion
That's it! Sorry if the layout is a bit confusing I am trying to figure out a way to make it easier to follow. Without being too long.
@@CyanTril nahhh it's ok... Just need to pause in the damage numbers or just slow it down during the same damage show case... So it's easier to figure out the damage nos... In this lay out we can easily know which build clears faster... So it's great 👍🏻😃... And thank you again for that😀
@@CyanTrilif I may make a suggestion. I saw a similar Youtubber do this type of editing in Star Rail too (split screen, damage comparison) - I suggest stopping and zooming in every time there’s damage to properly compare them and for us viewers to distinguish.
Video was already very informative. but this suggestion will take you to another level rather that the rest. I prefer your build than other theorycrafter and faul mouth like tectrone.. keep up the good work!@@kokocute123
So that one guy that got trashed was actually right. Hp% obviously lil less damage than cdmg, but it’s very similar while being tankier.
Yes I only found out about this recently involving the drama but from my test it’s right. It’s not a huge difference and the sustainability helps with the additional health especially with solo.
@@CyanTril if anything it makes him THAT much better, bc it provides flexibility in whichever relic has the better sub stats to your preference.
my Blade relics didn't rolled speed, I have Bronya with 136speed. I got hp and speed boots with pretty much the same stats, if I use speed boots I would be at 122 speed. Its that worth it or should I just use hp boots and stay at 97 speed?
If you cannot hit 134 speed it’s not really worth but I have noticed you want like 109-112 speed as it made a bit of a difference for me
Does the Rutilant buff get activated after getting the 2 stacks Longevous Crit Rate buff (reaching 70% afterwards)?
yes, yukong buff work too
As long as your stats in the C menu shows above 70% you should be receiving the buff. That means all stats ingame will work.
that why i build my blade hp/hp, cause i think why we need speed for dps that cause more dmg if he getting hit and using follow up attk, just using speed for his support and that going better
Question: What if I don't have his signature LC? Do I need to stick to Hp/Hp then?
Honestly I don't think it matters too much only when using Arlan does HP factor in more because you need to be below a certain amount for things to work. I would say HP/HP is good if you have a strong DPS in the first part of the fight as you will still get 3* no problems and won't have to struggle otherwise focus on damage.
@@CyanTril so I can just use the Arlan LC?
Thx for what we can say its really just go better subs stat 👍👍
If we are speaking from damage perspective Critical Damage is by far superior in this comparison. Even with critical damage sub on hp% main even with a decent amount of rolls into critical damage it still won't match. However I would probably go with a optimal HP% piece (Speed/Critical DMG*mainly rolling into this*/Critical Rate/Effect Res or Attack) over a sub optimal Critical damage piece running only 1 good stat like HP or Speed. As for Solo purpose you need to go HP main unless some god tier rolls into HP on every other piece of gear, unless its easy content but I don't see a point of doing solo on that personally.
I got lucky and have a 27 cv hp main chest, should I use that over a no other crit stat cd main chest piece
@@jammed_yam for now yes I wouldn’t stress over getting a new piece when you got lucky with this. You would need to get just as lucky again with a critical damage piece to match this so it’s not worth stressing unless you are super min max for small gains.
@@jammed_yam also you aren’t looking for critical in the critical damage piece while it’s welcome you are actually looking for HP% and Speed all three if possible(This is assuming you have his light cone)
Does Hp% Buffs him , Like Genshin impact's Hutao ? If so then I'll go for hp% boots without any regrets i have bronya but I'm f2p too having arlans weapon on him(blade)
Honestly I haven't played genshin in years so I don't know sorry. But he does scale off HP% which is a higher value than ATK%
Can i ask about rope and sphere effect. Example inert salsotto set. Do we need to have exactly above 50cr build or cr buff during ingame battle still count? Idk how to ask hope anyone could understand 😅
The ingame stats is what the bonus procs over. So additional critical rate gained in battle will add or remove the benefit.
I have a Blade with 8493 HP, 60 Crit/160CD, 108 spd running LD set/IS set and have Bronya using E on him every turn. Almost never have to worry about Blade dying and he hits super hard with Bronya boosting him or hard enough to wreck enemy on MOC 9/10. I tried spd boots but they didn’t have good hp substats, the extra spd without good hp stats makes Blade much riskier to play bc he doesn’t have that extra huge hp bankroll for variance dmg he’ll take, as long as he lives he’s a force of nature and will win.
I got blade but in which team should I put him? I don't have bornya, pela. I have (jing yuan, gepard, welt, bailu, ting yuan, natasha, shushang, Sampo, Asta and other free heroes) I want to make him main damage dealer.
Hard ask you are doing here. You could do Blade Yukong(free) / Bailu / March 7th. March 7th Skill on Blade and Auto attack while he has shield / Bailu auto attack only avoid healing with her unless team is low but almost never use her skill always ultimate, Yukong and Blade would need speed builds.
I still don`t know hoe to build my blade(e1), I have locha and bronya, and I`m thinking about this build. Body: crit damage, boots: spd, sphere: %wind damage, rope: %hp.
is it good, or someone can recomend me something better?
That’s it. If you want to go a DPS build I would say keep HP options as well in case he does die from attacks
Is that build sphere also hp % ? or wind damage ?
Wind damage but I have a comparison for wind damage vs HP% on the channel for your viewing
If blade build critdmg/speed, then what HP he need? I only build around 5k hp at lv75
The more you can get the better. You should aim for as much HP/CD as possible when looking at sub stats. I would say 6k-7k is okay for a DPS build. More the better
all pieces hp% except crit damage body is that a good build?
i have hp/hp because my crits look normal for now(48cr/109cd) i'm.just waiting until a CDMG piece
Can you try on calyx or stagnant? Because in moc sometime has buff & debuff to enemy
The problem with those two modes is they die in seconds for me so it would be like not that helpful I think. I am trying to focus on the current floors that don't have too much damage bonus. Also will be going 0 Turn attempts for testing now so that should fix the MOC buff affect.
so from what im seeing the best is either crit dmg or pure hp rolls
This is a very helpful video, we need more content like this.
Since i play blade as a tank/sub dps alongside selee...i will build him with hp and speed, ofc crit and cdm also in secondary stat bcz i want him more tanky but damaging
Dayum now I'm glad I picked up blade. Gonna go with the HP/HP build
I prefer crit d/hp
HP/HP is only good on solo whilst CRIT D/HP is good on teammates.
guys i do have blade but not luocha so should i go for hp/hp or crit d/hp?
Sub stats matter a lot more luocha isn't required for blade and depending on the lightcone you use can make things a bit more tricky. I would go HP/HP if you first team is very strong however if you don't really have a healer for team 2.
Yay! That is my dream build. You didn’t show your eff Res; is your hp build the eff Res 100% build?
my blade ia very strange i think he has 60%critrate and 80 critD i gave him a crit rate body for the new sphere that boosts skill dmg by 20% if crit rate is 70% or above 🤔
is it good or should i rebuild him
it literally has no effect on his skill because it deals 0 dmg and is just a buff that turns his basic attack into more dmg, not sure if the 20% basic attack buff is worth it alone
@@dg2drunk thank youu i will try crit D\hp or hp\hp
@@shirow.d3402you could also try inert salsotto since it will be similar to the arena set and there is less requirement(50% crit rate)
Hp virtually gives you:
-more bulk
-more dmg in which 40% increase equates 20% cdmg
Ive no idea about the spd value on main stat but in theory you should find all pieces with HP so your man can overnuke the whole game and pray for some crit rolls and some dmg. Max investment blade, however, doesnt need you to find Crit rolls, just HP, effect res, spd and and cdmg because he naturally reaches 71 crit.
D you know how much i spend on looking for boots HP
Spend what trailblaze power?
new sub earned ❤
No atk % for main stats ? Just CRT damg for body the rest is hp%?
Blade's Damage Boost is higher for HP Scaling than ATK Scaling
If u max Basic Attack, his blast scales 100% HP but only 40% for Atk.
I might go CDMG/HP or HP/HP since i have bronya, sadly no luocha need to get lynx
can someone tell me? how many spd does the blade need to run 2 times in 1 cycle, MOC.
is 120 speed enough? or still not
134
No conclusion of your thought which is better?
Rofl I was doing them before but a lot of people glossed over it so I was meh not that important. But since you asked Critical damage is the go to for purely damage if you want the fastest clear. HP% is more practical if you want sustainability and consistency (not having blade die).
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LMAO fr fr bro idk how i manged to focus on them all 💀
all other team mates are just slowing him down
he doesn't need them GiGaChAd
I've been debating which status to go for his boots since I have Bronya, I guess hp it is.
does this mean hp body could also rival cdmg body?
It's close enough that extremely godly substats could be bad substats not to mention having a great HP pool as well.
So, will you compare HP orb vs Wind orb as well? It would be funny if you also take into account with Boots and Body piece so it would have like, 8 videos play at once. Although Ig you can make it 4 videos on 1st half, and the rest on the 2nd half.
I saw someone test it and the result was wind orb was better. Maybe because if you have wind bonus as a main stat you can focus on HP% substat
@@Iwanttodie123 To be honest, I know from the start that Wind orb is better, and just like you said, one of the reason is you can still roll HP% subs but not Wind Damage subs.
It just, some "certain cc" insist change CDMG Body to HP% Body for survivability, when you also can change Wind Orb to HP% orb. So I kinda curios if HP/HP/Wind is better or worse than CDMG/HP/HP while still have high HP.
@@dimpejogjawind orb is 5% diff at most, less if you have bronya
Video is out now. Sorry about the delay.
@@CyanTril Thanks for your hardwork, although you don't have to apologize. Personally I don't mind waiting even after Blade's banner ends. Just release videos as you like it. You want to publish videos asap? Cool. You need more time before publish the video? Even better.
So Hp/Hp if you are just adding him in as a tank or even crit D Hp and Crit D and Speed if you have premium characters/well geared. Thanks for the informational video!
So hear me out, with speed boots+ bronya, blade can get 2 turns effectively when hes faster than bronya.
SO!!
can that 2 turn dmg by a weaker blade[critdmg/speed] be better than a stronger blade[ critdmg/hp%]
If someone tests then let me know too
Check my previous video
Do i go hp boots on blade with bronya?
I would make both personally there are times you want him to be faster and there are times you want him to be tankier. I would say HP% is more used for this but both is nice
Thanks
Great video! and thank you
and this is why Gacha Smack was right lol, i mean sure CDmg and Spd is higher overall but I'd rather take more survivability over big deeps
How much hp does hp/hp Blade have though?
Stats at end of the video.
Obviously crit dmg gonna be the superior stats considering it multiply the outgoing damage..
-yes, but you also need to take into account that hp is a defensive stat. it does make blade more tanky and able to sustain better if alone or if no luocha is there.
-if the difference between them (if for example you get an HP body with double crit rolls and it rolls all into crit) is not that massive of a gap, you have a viable alternative, and as genshin proves, you will get good hp pieces with double crit more often than a crit piece with a crit substat. so less time investing on blade's relics that can go into his traces/cone/level/bronya's stuff/etc...
hp scaling is significantly better than atk scalling so going hp chest instead of cdm is not as bad as going atk chest nin other char
Obviously? They both completed the same thing with a 1 turn difference, 1 turn will never make or break your moc 3 star clears, but taking 3 hits instead of 2 is far more valuable
Im still farming for Crit Damage. Ill go Crit D/HP but with Bronya
So we looking at the Max of this video
how about Rutilant Arena vs Salsoto? which is better?
E0 = rutilant
E1 upwards = salsotto
because all of his eidolons are either overall dmg increase or ult/followup (E1 being a massive nuke ult and E6 making his follow up 4 stacks instead of 5 which makes him do more of it for example)
Rutilant has a 70% crit rate requirement to activate it's effect, so probably salsotto unless you think you can reach it
I think salsotto
Yh people probably gonna say theprycrafters chose rutilant arena but... imo
Salsotto is better because his follow up and ult proc often whilst basic is just one thing and skill doesnt even do dmg
Also the cr requirement is less
Salsotto because it increases dmg on his follow up and ult. Rutilant only increases dmg on his basic atk since he has no Skill dmg plus 70% crit rate is very high requirement.
Hp/Hp looks like the right way to go apparently
well I have 7.5k hp with crit dmg body and speed boots :|
Ima just make my blade all hp with crit sub stats and use bronya to essentially speed up ny blade
Rip crit D/Speed 0:56
Rip Crit D/Hp 1:38
Rip Hp/Speed 1:57
Winner hp/hp 2:35
All of them could've won If auto play wasnt stupid. This video is quite old so the new auto play prob could've handled it
Also was sad no bronya i mainly wanted to see the comparison with bronya
My previous video has bronya comparison
I think I'm gonna try get blade to 123 speed bronya to 121 and then depending on which I get first hp% or crit dmg% chest.
Clear
Crit D/SPEED:💀
So, where are summary?
Most people was skipping it so I just omitted it to save video length. However I will be adding it back realizing some people do use it. Simply put the damage difference is small but if you looking for damage go with Critical DMG% , HP% Is great for sustainability and Solo Fun with blade so don't be afraid to use it even more so if you have insane sub stats.
Thx bro, but to be honest, we all expected this
It was indeed obvious who was gonna win however it more so to show the differences between the two.
Isnt 4 piece wind set way better than the new set?
new one gives Blade free 32 crit value
@@jus4455 8+8, that's 16% crit rate.
@@Qopa yes crit rate value is doubled to make it easier to compare to crit dmg
@@jus4455 With LC I can already get his crit up to 70%-80% with 170%-200% crit dmg, E2 would give him an additional 15% crit rate, so 85% to 95%. Going 4 set to me seems like an overkill so I would rather just go with either 4 set wind or 2 set wind and 2 set hp.
@@Qopa yes thats the fun in it with THE LC and the set he doesn't need a crit rate body anymore and few to none stats
So you can focus on rolling more crit dmg
Or if u have already a good ratio of crit
You can actually put an HP body would be insaaane value
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The new set makes it possible to build him Hp/Spd/Wind/Hp instead of Crit/Hp/Wind/Hp, which is a very good set-up
according to cn bro, its better to change your wind with hp, rather than cdm with hp
so i will go hp\cdm\hp\hp instead of wind
@@ketipunk2852 I see, thanks for the intel
@@ketipunk2852 can you explain why hp is better than wind?
@@fancho123 bc the damage you loose is like 5% but you get like 1.5k hp so its worth it
i was thinking about putting hp main stat on chest also ...
planar wind dmg bonus vs HP
My brother in christ get HP % substats their Godly