Not being able to go above 60 mph? You couldn't safely take it on most US highways. That and China is just trying to gain market share with these prices. Even so, in a true free market, this would force legacy automakers to inovate real quick. And it would go a long way towards EV adaption and reduced emissions. I'd say it's a wash
@@brettgoldsmith8584 long way who? In Norway they have only 3% of gas and diesel cars in sales - over 90% are electric! Over 60% in Sweden - and over 50% in China. They did it - from 10% to 50-90% - in 5 years.
Cheapo cars like this one have their place. I can see where this car and others like them fit nicely in urban environments and for people looking for basic, affordable transportation.
yep and for most people this is a perfectly usable vehicle if this goes nation wide available and doesnt get its price tripled by tarrifs i have a feeling that they'll have a really hard time keeping these in stock
This one is not for sale in my country, Brazil, but the Seagull is 18665 dollars in my country and there are no incentives here. The seagull is the best selling EV of 2024.
The argument that these Chinese companies get unfair state subsidies is ridiculous. How many tens of billions did GM get in their last bailout? Rivian got $6.6bn just this month in "loans" that they likely won't need to pay back. Every time a new factory is built, the states compete in throwing billions at the automakers. That's not to mention the cushy military contracts the auto companies get on the side.
If development of EVs had continued after the EV1, the U.S. could have been the vehicle technology leader with a 2 decades head start. We practically handed this win to China on a silver platter. The fact it's subsidized doesn't matter. We could have done the same. We chose not to innovate.
It's not the same as what the communists do SMH. You know they use child labor and pay their workers dirt wages? They have no OSHA protecting workers. A couple years ago they found Apple workers living in bunk houses they couldn't leave. It's an ignorant comparison at best.
Thankfully, industry lobbying protects us from being able to buy these. I gladly pay 60k plus for an EV, if I can be sure that puts a meal on the table for a starving domestic CEO.
Calling it domestic lobbying is disingenuous at best. China is massively subsidizing and dumping EVs into foreign markets. This type of economic warfare is standard for them, This is exactly what they do in the steel industry but with consumer goods instead.
You should do your research on Chinese EV's before praising them. They are known for causing many deaths because thry cut corners on safety. There is a reason why they are so cheap while appearing to looknas good as they do
Has nothing to do with CEO and everything to do with many US industries and workers. Every country does it to help manage and stabilize the local market.
@@otm646 What they're doing is putting money into a void of innovation to win a market that had massive growth potential. No other country had the balls to do it. What happened to the U.S. leading technology innovation? That could have been us years ago, but look at where we ended up instead.
That's a cute little buggy. I appreciate seeing different colors and style cues. Love hearing Alyssa's opinion on things. it is nice to get a different use case perspective.
"50kW isn't that slow." When I drive my mother's Bolt EV, I rarely go over 60kW and the Bolt is a ~40% heavier car. Most EVs have ridiculously over-spec'd motors for normal driving.
Most cars need to be "real" cars because most families don't have the budget to spend on a spare city car. They need their car to be able to do everything a gas car can do. So most EVs do not have over-spec'd motors.
@@ultrastoat3298 For normal responsible driving, 60kW will get a normal electric car wherever it needs to go perfectly fine. Once at speed, you only need ~20kW to maintain highway speed, +/-5kW depending on driving conditions. With a gas car, you need an artificially larger engine just to offset the lack of low-end torque for launch. An electric car doesn't have that problem, torque is mostly flat from dead stop until whatever speed the power limit kicks in, if it ever does.
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@@ultrastoat3298 No, many EVs have too much power. You don't need 0-100 km/h times of below 7 seconds for an all-day (family) car.
Great review! Love Alyssa on camera! Honestly, this is a great little car for most people. Most people don’t drive more than its range or carry more people on a daily basis. And now we’re about to have a government that will further limit our choices. Disgraceful.
We already HAVE one under King Biden; he did not allow these into the USA. No USA President ever will. They have ALL been payed off by 'the big three' and the oil oligarchs to keep out any real competition to the USA made, over priced, underwhelming cars.
FYI, this is partly owned by General Motors.... Wonder why they never imported these in the US... you also have the Wuling Mini EVs which are 2 seater super small cars that could work in place like NYC
It is because even though GM owns around 40% of Wuling, it really has no input on how Wulings are designed and built. Wulings ride on their own platforms designed to take full advantage of the local Chinese EV supply chain to build some of the cheapest cars in the Chinese market. None of it really has anything to do with GM's own platforms, supply chains, and factories, which also means GM will not be able to easily build these cars in any of its many factories scattered all over the world. For instance the recently launched Baojun Cloud is essentially a newer nicer and cheaper Chevy Bolt, so why isn't GM pumping those out in their American factories to sell in large numbers? Because the Cloud is designed and built by Wuling, using Wuling's platform and batteries and supply chain and so on, so GM can't build it in the US despite the fact that they desperately need a replacement for the Bolt.
We know this would cost more if sold in the US, but at 19,000 dollars it would still sell very well. There are buyers looking for simple, affordable, and brand new. This would connect with those buyers. For me, I would look at what used vehicle options are out there around 20,000 dollars before grabbing this. GM should be looking to bring these in with Chevrolet badges on them. The Chinese EV industry is spreading globally and Western legacy builders are feeling the heat.
@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita Keep in mind Trump-o-nomocs. If he follows through with his threats, 19,000 dollars will be the cheapest this vehicle could be in the US.
The average income in China is $16,000 a year compared to $64,000 a year in the US. The price of the vehicles in China has no relation to our market. The economics are completely different.
China has a lot of different average incomes, the country is huge and it depends if you live in a big city or a small one (the same apply for more developed provinces)
Yes!! Stupid governments forcing them out. More choices and competition is always best for consumers. I get that China isn't great with their government and humanitarian issues, but two things can exist simultaneously. Not liking that but wanting the cars here to choose from.
@@jeffs6090 The reason they block them has nothing to do with humanitarian issues. It because US car companies prefer to bribe politicians to block competition over innovating and improving. In combination with bureaucracy preventing development of raw material mines for battery materials and factories in the US. The only EV company in the US that has any success is Tesla, and you can see how much politicians hate it.
I live in asia and Americans always think that only their government applies tarrifs on foreign goods. They should come to Asia and see the tarrifs here. It's on the next level. 😂Also this car is not 8k.
@@AVB_42 We are all very well aware of tariffs all over the globe. That's not the issue. We don't even have the option available to have any of these here in order for tariffs to be put on them.
no more Chinese government incentives to the public. factories maybe get some grants, but Wuling is already an established company. The supply chain is main reason as everything is made in china with so many brands ordering parts.
Just imagine, your 2nd car loan payment went from $650 to $150 per month. Your fuel cost for the same second car went from $200 to $50, even less if you have solar or cheap ⚡ $/Kwh. In my book, not getting an easy savings is = higher inflation.
Even if that was 20K in the US, that would be a great city car. Seems like all the american brands (or German or Japanese brands we have in the US) would rather build large luxury sedans and SUVs than build anything budget. Even if you look at the Bolt, which was a great deal, the bolt had a 240-260mi range from a 60/66kwh battery. Its also a crossover size, and it was like 34K new (before incentives) The old Model 3 Standard Range was $39K for 272mi. The Leaf is 28K for the 150mi base model. And the leaf is "small" but its not really small like the old Spark EV. We really need a new Spark EV. Or the equivalent of an electric Mitsubishi Mirage. Cut out ALL the premium features. Cloth seats, lots of plastic. Smaller size. IDK if it could quite hit 20K, but surely 25K.
It's interesting to see people used to reviewing expensive luxury cars, trying to review an inexpensive car that many Americans would be happy to be able to buy and drive.
Not even close . They have their own tests over there but they are not to our standards . They said think about it this way . If your a motorcycle rider what protection do you have ? Less than this . There the idea . Affordable transportation with weather resistance.
Can and i beg you for a review of every car Dcar carried to the States....even sprinkle in the plugin hybrid cars and the ICE .....i think u do have a different account that can do that
$8k is the Chinese price. You don't usually get one outside China for less than $18k. The base price in Indonesia is $19600 without DC fast charging. And that's reduced. The Philippine base price is $18400. Cheapest outside China I've seen is Thailand at $12250.
13:03 Thats why you sometimes see in germany Smart cars driving around with a sticker written on "Mercedes S Klasse Rettungskapsel" aka Mercedes S Class escape pod lol
Last I checked marketing & distribution costs in the united states typically cost about 1/3rd of the vehicle cost. Also safety and other market-specific requirements would likely add 3-4k onto the base cost. So you could expect that this cost would be about 16k + marketing costs (say another 6k), would bring the cost to 22k.Still a great price, but not quite the steal it looks like when looking at the in-country costs. The other question is reliability. Remember Kia and Yugo? Both came to the country as low-cost econo-boxes. The kia iterated and drove quality into the car. Yugo not so much. And then there are the Tariffs.
I skimmed through this video.. How are they legally driving it in the US. Is there some type of exemption for cars imported for tear-downs and benchmarking? Did I miss something?
Its eSIM card is only available in China. Its entertainment system can used for navigation, watching videos and listening to music, just like a smart phone.
My grandmother had a pink car a bit like that in the 1950's in CA - a Renault Dauphine. It is not like the form factor is alien to the US. But I do wonder about safety.
The xhream on brown with the faux chrome on rhe dash is a quite elegent come 50s american retro thing going on. If that had a wood wheel it would realy pop. Failing that, it would look better cream or brown. The balck is a bit jaring. Its wuite amazing im picking at the wheel colour and style on a £12k car.
You guys REALLY should try to find an old Mitsubishi i-MiEV to review / discover. Great little EV's! I'm still driving my 2010 i-MiEV. I upgraded the battery via OZ Electric Vehicles in 2022 and now have a 200+ kilometers range, good to go for another decade. Would love to see what you think about it!!
Yes, and the work force would accept $2/hour if rent wasn't $2500/month, internet $100/month, and food $150/week. The Chinese government also heavily subsidizes these, much more than the US gov does.
A lot of these factories are automated and doesn’t need a lot of baseline workers but rather a handful of on site engineers anyway. Cost savings mostly comes from vertical integration of its supply chain, access to abundant well educated university engineer graduates. Labour cost although is cheaper relatively speaking, is actually not that cheap anymore when compared to 20 years ago, same reason why many of the clothing are actually manufactured in Vietnam now. And to expand on that other comment, some factories provide accommodation and cafeteria food, right beside the factory on top of wages, making saving 90% of the wages in chequing accounts possible.
Assembly line workers don't add as much cost to a vehicle as you think they do, not with the amount of automation and rate at which they go through the factory.
That is why the Republicans want to do away with the minimum wage. Perfect job for Arkansas school kids, just what the governor has been asking for. We don't have to build them. Just buy them from China like we do with almost everything.
Dang Kyle, I thought you were a hardcore numbers/nerd type. No mention of what the available battery capacities are, what kind of motor it uses (permanent magnet {unlikely, given the price}, induction {possible, but still unlikely}, brushed DC {probable, but would like confirmation}) or any really techie specs like that.
Americans cannot review a Chinese car without talking about the so-called government subsidy. Meanwhile, they are also spending a huge budget on subsidizing electric vehicles themselves. The fact is that every car maker can get this ‘government subsidy’ if they meet certain criteria, just like Tesla.
If I could get this for 8k USD ((11k CDN) +Tax, I would buy it as long as I could get to work and back daily (150km round trip) in the winter on one charge. I could keep the kilometers down on my Tesla. These would sell like hot cakes.
American car manufacturers other than Tesla have limited themselves to making only $100,000 monster pickups and SUVs. Chevy, Ford and Dodge don’t make anything that most Americans can or want to buy🎱
Ok but is it US legal? Thats the issue with all of these cheap EVs. The rest of the world has them, yet we get these expensive ones that no one really likes.
I wish we'd incentivize these small vehicles, I look at that and just think of all the taxes and insurance you'd have to spend just to keep it around. Flat EV fees and insurance and everything else, I bet would be no less than 800 a year in WA.
All the modern kei cars are imported this way, generally need to be limited to 45 mph and a few things. (Many remove the speed limiter after import). The older kei stuff >25yo gets imported as antique to get the nhtsa/EPA exemptions and is imported as a road car
The US could build cars priced this low when UAW is willing to work for $2-4/hr.. That’s what the average auto worker makes in China. And working conditions are extremely harsh with minimal AC or heat. It’s common to see workers quit. You can’t compare US and China cost of living.
It's about efficiency, its end robotics automation for automotive manufacturing in China. Second, investment into end to end supply chain. Third, economy of scale. Fourth, competitiin from many internal car manufacturers. Fifth, excellence in innovation. Sixth, abundant supply of talent/engineers. Did I miss out on any other factors? Do you really think China hires all its engineers by paying hourly wages similar to that of McDonald's employees in the US with minimum AC working environment and banging their EV production with a sledge hammer similar to the era when Henry Ford manufacturers cars. You must also imagine iPhones are being made similarly in China. Good Lord
Dude, in China the use robots. That is why their products are so cheap. Labour is only a fraction of the reason why it is cheap. You westerners have absolutely no idea how Chinese car industry works. You can’t understand how they utterly dominate the industry. That is why you people are fucked.😂
There are many videos on UA-cam in which foreign youtubers visit Chinese automobile factories. Don't live in stereotypes. Chinese workers have relatively low salaries, but their cost of living is also low
it wouldn't, that's why these vehicles are starting to come to mexico , i live next to a border and i can see alot of byd and other Chinese cars thats wouldn't hold up to american standards or crash test that we have here .
It’s fun to keep saying $8000 car but that’s pretty meaningless until you know if passes the safety standards to allow it to be sold here. And this is $12,000 by the time you get it with the supped up 67 hp version that can’t be taken on the freeway. And is that $12,000 in China? Even before tariffs what would it cost by the time you had this be a street legal golf cart here in the US? The styling is fun, but I’d guess you could get a used EV that’s street legal and can go on the freeway for a similar price. Wouldn’t be as cute but would probably make you more cheerful in the long run.
Love having Alyssa be the main character in some of the videos. Great video!
Even with the crazy high tariffs, this would still be a good deal for $16k to $20k
Not being able to go above 60 mph? You couldn't safely take it on most US highways. That and China is just trying to gain market share with these prices.
Even so, in a true free market, this would force legacy automakers to inovate real quick. And it would go a long way towards EV adaption and reduced emissions. I'd say it's a wash
@@brettgoldsmith8584 long way who? In Norway they have only 3% of gas and diesel cars in sales - over 90% are electric! Over 60% in Sweden - and over 50% in China.
They did it - from 10% to 50-90% - in 5 years.
It's like an updated Spark EV that costs as much as used Spark EV.
It’s actually better than than the Spark! 😂
2014 spark with the 400ftlbs of tq was pretty fun.
Cheapo cars like this one have their place. I can see where this car and others like them fit nicely in urban environments and for people looking for basic, affordable transportation.
8 grand for this is a steal.
yep and for most people this is a perfectly usable vehicle if this goes nation wide available and doesnt get its price tripled by tarrifs i have a feeling that they'll have a really hard time keeping these in stock
$16.000 In Europe.$12,000 in developing countries.
This one is not for sale in my country, Brazil, but the Seagull is 18665 dollars in my country and there are no incentives here. The seagull is the best selling EV of 2024.
@@P2EDUARDO because BYD No competition in Brazil
The Wuling Mini EV is now a 4 door at around the same price....
The argument that these Chinese companies get unfair state subsidies is ridiculous. How many tens of billions did GM get in their last bailout? Rivian got $6.6bn just this month in "loans" that they likely won't need to pay back. Every time a new factory is built, the states compete in throwing billions at the automakers. That's not to mention the cushy military contracts the auto companies get on the side.
Now there is 'point and score' for OP on this subject
Don’t forget the oil company subsidies! Literally corporate welfare
If development of EVs had continued after the EV1, the U.S. could have been the vehicle technology leader with a 2 decades head start. We practically handed this win to China on a silver platter. The fact it's subsidized doesn't matter. We could have done the same. We chose not to innovate.
It's not the same as what the communists do SMH. You know they use child labor and pay their workers dirt wages? They have no OSHA protecting workers. A couple years ago they found Apple workers living in bunk houses they couldn't leave. It's an ignorant comparison at best.
@@jrharbortproductionsHeck, legacy auto continues to cut their EV production because they haven’t figured out how to make them profitably.
$8,000 gets you a whole new EV in China. In most other developed countries, it buys you half of the battery pack.
That's a heavily subsidized price with very little margin. Outside China it's more like $20k. The competing BYD is $21k in Mexico.
Thankfully, industry lobbying protects us from being able to buy these. I gladly pay 60k plus for an EV, if I can be sure that puts a meal on the table for a starving domestic CEO.
Calling it domestic lobbying is disingenuous at best. China is massively subsidizing and dumping EVs into foreign markets. This type of economic warfare is standard for them, This is exactly what they do in the steel industry but with consumer goods instead.
@@otm646 they learned it from america
You should do your research on Chinese EV's before praising them. They are known for causing many deaths because thry cut corners on safety. There is a reason why they are so cheap while appearing to looknas good as they do
Has nothing to do with CEO and everything to do with many US industries and workers. Every country does it to help manage and stabilize the local market.
@@otm646 What they're doing is putting money into a void of innovation to win a market that had massive growth potential. No other country had the balls to do it. What happened to the U.S. leading technology innovation? That could have been us years ago, but look at where we ended up instead.
That's a cute little buggy. I appreciate seeing different colors and style cues. Love hearing Alyssa's opinion on things. it is nice to get a different use case perspective.
"50kW isn't that slow." When I drive my mother's Bolt EV, I rarely go over 60kW and the Bolt is a ~40% heavier car. Most EVs have ridiculously over-spec'd motors for normal driving.
Most cars need to be "real" cars because most families don't have the budget to spend on a spare city car. They need their car to be able to do everything a gas car can do. So most EVs do not have over-spec'd motors.
@@ultrastoat3298 For normal responsible driving, 60kW will get a normal electric car wherever it needs to go perfectly fine. Once at speed, you only need ~20kW to maintain highway speed, +/-5kW depending on driving conditions.
With a gas car, you need an artificially larger engine just to offset the lack of low-end torque for launch. An electric car doesn't have that problem, torque is mostly flat from dead stop until whatever speed the power limit kicks in, if it ever does.
@@ultrastoat3298 No, many EVs have too much power. You don't need 0-100 km/h times of below 7 seconds for an all-day (family) car.
@@ultrastoat3298 weird take
The Toyota 2 e petrol engine max power output is 50 kW so for an electric motor that's hardly slow especially acceleration.
Under 10k is perfect for an extra car for the city. Used Bolt EV or Nissan Leaf is the only decent choice right now in that price range in the US.
I just hope more vendors will come up with an after market solution to Leaf's battery .replacement . . .
As a designer, I love the styling inside and out.
Great review! Love Alyssa on camera! Honestly, this is a great little car for most people. Most people don’t drive more than its range or carry more people on a daily basis. And now we’re about to have a government that will further limit our choices. Disgraceful.
We already HAVE one under King Biden; he did not allow these into the USA. No USA President ever will. They have ALL been payed off by 'the big three' and the oil oligarchs to keep out any real competition to the USA made, over priced, underwhelming cars.
Jank Boteko ❤ Didi
Why can't we ever get cool cheap cars in the U.S.? Who's stopping this from happening?.?...
Politics
they can't make money off cheap cars, that's why they got rid of the subcompact vehicles
Livable wages for workers.
I sure do enjoy seeing all the cool stuff coming out of China that Americans can't buy.
FYI, this is partly owned by General Motors.... Wonder why they never imported these in the US... you also have the Wuling Mini EVs which are 2 seater super small cars that could work in place like NYC
It is because even though GM owns around 40% of Wuling, it really has no input on how Wulings are designed and built. Wulings ride on their own platforms designed to take full advantage of the local Chinese EV supply chain to build some of the cheapest cars in the Chinese market. None of it really has anything to do with GM's own platforms, supply chains, and factories, which also means GM will not be able to easily build these cars in any of its many factories scattered all over the world. For instance the recently launched Baojun Cloud is essentially a newer nicer and cheaper Chevy Bolt, so why isn't GM pumping those out in their American factories to sell in large numbers? Because the Cloud is designed and built by Wuling, using Wuling's platform and batteries and supply chain and so on, so GM can't build it in the US despite the fact that they desperately need a replacement for the Bolt.
We know this would cost more if sold in the US, but at 19,000 dollars it would still sell very well.
There are buyers looking for simple, affordable, and brand new. This would connect with those buyers.
For me, I would look at what used vehicle options are out there around 20,000 dollars before grabbing this.
GM should be looking to bring these in with Chevrolet badges on them.
The Chinese EV industry is spreading globally and Western legacy builders are feeling the heat.
They can come back as Geo again.
$8.000 in china .
$16.000 In Europe.
$12,000 in developing countries
@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita Keep in mind Trump-o-nomocs. If he follows through with his threats, 19,000 dollars will be the cheapest this vehicle could be in the US.
The average income in China is $16,000 a year compared to $64,000 a year in the US. The price of the vehicles in China has no relation to our market. The economics are completely different.
That may not be true for the middle class in major cities.
China has a lot of different average incomes, the country is huge and it depends if you live in a big city or a small one (the same apply for more developed provinces)
Overpaid CEOs whack the balance off.
@@wgemini4422 The middle class in major cities aren't building cars.
@@yulusleonard985 It's median not mean income.
Love the Chinese car content we’re getting! Wish we could buy some of these cars though 😂
Yes!! Stupid governments forcing them out. More choices and competition is always best for consumers. I get that China isn't great with their government and humanitarian issues, but two things can exist simultaneously. Not liking that but wanting the cars here to choose from.
@@jeffs6090 The reason they block them has nothing to do with humanitarian issues. It because US car companies prefer to bribe politicians to block competition over innovating and improving. In combination with bureaucracy preventing development of raw material mines for battery materials and factories in the US.
The only EV company in the US that has any success is Tesla, and you can see how much politicians hate it.
I live in asia and Americans always think that only their government applies tarrifs on foreign goods. They should come to Asia and see the tarrifs here. It's on the next level. 😂Also this car is not 8k.
@@AVB_42 We are all very well aware of tariffs all over the globe. That's not the issue. We don't even have the option available to have any of these here in order for tariffs to be put on them.
@@AVB_42 Well said.
no more Chinese government incentives to the public. factories maybe get some grants, but Wuling is already an established company. The supply chain is main reason as everything is made in china with so many brands ordering parts.
Kyle that thing is hilarious.
Just imagine, your 2nd car loan payment went from $650 to $150 per month. Your fuel cost for the same second car went from $200 to $50, even less if you have solar or cheap ⚡ $/Kwh. In my book, not getting an easy savings is = higher inflation.
$8.000 in china .
$16.000 In Europe.
$12,000 in developing countries
Even if that was 20K in the US, that would be a great city car. Seems like all the american brands (or German or Japanese brands we have in the US) would rather build large luxury sedans and SUVs than build anything budget.
Even if you look at the Bolt, which was a great deal, the bolt had a 240-260mi range from a 60/66kwh battery. Its also a crossover size, and it was like 34K new (before incentives)
The old Model 3 Standard Range was $39K for 272mi.
The Leaf is 28K for the 150mi base model. And the leaf is "small" but its not really small like the old Spark EV. We really need a new Spark EV. Or the equivalent of an electric Mitsubishi Mirage. Cut out ALL the premium features. Cloth seats, lots of plastic. Smaller size. IDK if it could quite hit 20K, but surely 25K.
$8.000 in china .
$16.000 In Europe.
$12,000 in developing countries
Love the color. Think it is cute and WANT one!
This is the fastest way to get EV adoption. Most people don't need monthly payments for subpar GM vehicles
So leasing one of these in Colorado would be -2000 down and they pay for your insurance?
I would own 3 of these if I could buy them.
It's interesting to see people used to reviewing expensive luxury cars, trying to review an inexpensive car that many Americans would be happy to be able to buy and drive.
Does it pass any mandatory crash tests?
It doesn’t feel like it would 😂
Prob not since 50% of us citizens are fat and have a ego so the drive giant trucks and suvs
Not even close . They have their own tests over there but they are not to our standards . They said think about it this way . If your a motorcycle rider what protection do you have ? Less than this . There the idea . Affordable transportation with weather resistance.
Yes. It will crash.
@KyleConner neither would japanese kei cars 😂 but not sure why people don't pick those apart lol.
Thats a really nice interior. Nicer than the Spring that is £15k in the uk. Iirc the cheapest ev on sale here.
Leapmotor t03 vs Wuling bingo vs BYD segulll. And many more are Rival in China market
"No ADD in this video" says Alyssa to Kyle!
yeah i laughed - seemed low key aggro hahaha
We need a small, affordable, EV, half ton, work pickup! Remember the old, pre-Tacoma pickups? Make it a two-seater with a 250-mile range! Thanks!
Love the grocery getter perfect
Thanks!
The Orange One will make sure you can’t enjoy the benefits of a cheap electric car. Lunacy.
Can and i beg you for a review of every car Dcar carried to the States....even sprinkle in the plugin hybrid cars and the ICE .....i think u do have a different account that can do that
Curious how you feel about this car vs the Kandi you drove a few years ago?
It sounds like the build quality is like if Honda made EV's in the '80s
$8k is the Chinese price. You don't usually get one outside China for less than $18k. The base price in Indonesia is $19600 without DC fast charging. And that's reduced. The Philippine base price is $18400. Cheapest outside China I've seen is Thailand at $12250.
No airbags car ? 15 mph bumper? Protection bars in the doors ?
US/Canada regulations?
it has Airbag，just not mark on it
actually it has 4，2 in front，2 on the side
I like the dash, it’s retro 50’s but modern at the same time.
$8.000 in china .
$16.000 In Europe.
$12,000 in developing countries
How many Bingos does a Rolls Royce Spectrum cost? 🤣
The dash has kind of a retro vibe with the chrome and cream color (think 50's car or diner).
Hope the Firefly car reaches the US.
Someone needs to paint this red and yellow.
A review without opening the frunk? That's a first.
13:03 Thats why you sometimes see in germany Smart cars driving around with a sticker written on "Mercedes S Klasse Rettungskapsel" aka Mercedes S Class escape pod lol
Last I checked marketing & distribution costs in the united states typically cost about 1/3rd of the vehicle cost. Also safety and other market-specific requirements would likely add 3-4k onto the base cost. So you could expect that this cost would be about 16k + marketing costs (say another 6k), would bring the cost to 22k.Still a great price, but not quite the steal it looks like when looking at the in-country costs. The other question is reliability. Remember Kia and Yugo? Both came to the country as low-cost econo-boxes. The kia iterated and drove quality into the car. Yugo not so much.
And then there are the Tariffs.
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What is the range?
I would take one @ twice the price $16,000
Kyle, you did the same thing when you saw the Lexus that I do when I see a 95 Acura Legend Coupe. 😂
”3-2-1 go!”
*nothing happens* 😂
Lol isnt D car studio is the one doing crash test? They have channel in UA-cam.
I skimmed through this video.. How are they legally driving it in the US. Is there some type of exemption for cars imported for tear-downs and benchmarking? Did I miss something?
the company is letting them drive it in the US, they are not for sale yet
Foreign owned, temporary import, just like driving in from Mexico, but more work lol
No audio/radio functionality?
Its eSIM card is only available in China. Its entertainment system can used for navigation, watching videos and listening to music, just like a smart phone.
My grandmother had a pink car a bit like that in the 1950's in CA - a Renault Dauphine. It is not like the form factor is alien to the US. But I do wonder about safety.
The xhream on brown with the faux chrome on rhe dash is a quite elegent come 50s american retro thing going on.
If that had a wood wheel it would realy pop. Failing that, it would look better cream or brown. The balck is a bit jaring.
Its wuite amazing im picking at the wheel colour and style on a £12k car.
You guys REALLY should try to find an old Mitsubishi i-MiEV to review / discover. Great little EV's! I'm still driving my 2010 i-MiEV. I upgraded the battery via OZ Electric Vehicles in 2022 and now have a 200+ kilometers range, good to go for another decade. Would love to see what you think about it!!
Good to see. There's a Mitsu in my town but the owner doesn't want to sell . . . 😢
You could build cars like this in the US if the work force accepted $2 an hour?
Chinese workers get paid about 6 or 7 usd per hour
Yes, and the work force would accept $2/hour if rent wasn't $2500/month, internet $100/month, and food $150/week. The Chinese government also heavily subsidizes these, much more than the US gov does.
A lot of these factories are automated and doesn’t need a lot of baseline workers but rather a handful of on site engineers anyway. Cost savings mostly comes from vertical integration of its supply chain, access to abundant well educated university engineer graduates. Labour cost although is cheaper relatively speaking, is actually not that cheap anymore when compared to 20 years ago, same reason why many of the clothing are actually manufactured in Vietnam now.
And to expand on that other comment, some factories provide accommodation and cafeteria food, right beside the factory on top of wages, making saving 90% of the wages in chequing accounts possible.
Assembly line workers don't add as much cost to a vehicle as you think they do, not with the amount of automation and rate at which they go through the factory.
That is why the Republicans want to do away with the minimum wage. Perfect job for Arkansas school kids, just what the governor has been asking for.
We don't have to build them. Just buy them from China like we do with almost everything.
Infotainment on this 8 grand car is less laggy than on ford mustang mach e
This would have been a great car for the I90 surge.
Please review Wuling air mini
Time to say goodbye to the 2 connector solution for AC and DC charging. Just use one connector.
Yep, that’s NACS (Tesla connector) and the industry claims to be moving to it.
@@-Jethro- only North America. Europe and Asia are still go ahead with their own plug type. That say, the combo can integrate in 1 plug as well.
@@林振华-t4v True, I was just thinking of the US (and Canada?)
@@-Jethro-yep, Canada is going NACS. As if we have any option. 😂
I"m sure people would buy it for $16K.
Dang Kyle, I thought you were a hardcore numbers/nerd type. No mention of what the available battery capacities are, what kind of motor it uses (permanent magnet {unlikely, given the price}, induction {possible, but still unlikely}, brushed DC {probable, but would like confirmation}) or any really techie specs like that.
Get in your pod!
Real price would likely be 12k without subsidies. So with import excluding tariff likely 15k.
$8.000 in china .
$16.000 In Europe.
$12,000 in developing countries
Americans cannot review a Chinese car without talking about the so-called government subsidy. Meanwhile, they are also spending a huge budget on subsidizing electric vehicles themselves. The fact is that every car maker can get this ‘government subsidy’ if they meet certain criteria, just like Tesla.
The bingo is an old design. Ask for a dongfeng nammi 01, byd seagull or geely geometry e. All in the same price bracket
We have all options here in Costa Rica and no one buys the bingo
If I could get this for 8k USD ((11k CDN) +Tax, I would buy it as long as I could get to work and back daily (150km round trip) in the winter on one charge. I could keep the kilometers down on my Tesla. These would sell like hot cakes.
😂Should be ok for 150 km as long as deep snow covered.
Nobody in Europe drives the BYD Seagull, sadly ^^
It will probably launch in 2025
American car manufacturers other than Tesla have limited themselves to making only $100,000 monster pickups and SUVs. Chevy, Ford and Dodge don’t make anything that most Americans can or want to buy🎱
Ok but is it US legal? Thats the issue with all of these cheap EVs. The rest of the world has them, yet we get these expensive ones that no one really likes.
I wish we'd incentivize these small vehicles, I look at that and just think of all the taxes and insurance you'd have to spend just to keep it around. Flat EV fees and insurance and everything else, I bet would be no less than 800 a year in WA.
Just saw the DCAR crash test on this bad boi. This is NEVER selling in the US. Neither is the Seagull without extensive modifications.
I don’t even see seat belts or airbags on this one…. Edit: I do see the seat belts, but not sure dude is wearing it. Still unsure about the airbags.
More Alyssa in front of the camera!
Affordable city cars would be awesome. It is a bargain. You can't buy a golf cart for that in the US! Let's import them as "golf carts"!
All the modern kei cars are imported this way, generally need to be limited to 45 mph and a few things. (Many remove the speed limiter after import). The older kei stuff >25yo gets imported as antique to get the nhtsa/EPA exemptions and is imported as a road car
The US could build cars priced this low when UAW is willing to work for $2-4/hr.. That’s what the average auto worker makes in China. And working conditions are extremely harsh with minimal AC or heat. It’s common to see workers quit. You can’t compare US and China cost of living.
It's about efficiency, its end robotics automation for automotive manufacturing in China. Second, investment into end to end supply chain. Third, economy of scale. Fourth, competitiin from many internal car manufacturers. Fifth, excellence in innovation. Sixth, abundant supply of talent/engineers. Did I miss out on any other factors? Do you really think China hires all its engineers by paying hourly wages similar to that of McDonald's employees in the US with minimum AC working environment and banging their EV production with a sledge hammer similar to the era when Henry Ford manufacturers cars. You must also imagine iPhones are being made similarly in China. Good Lord
Dude, in China the use robots. That is why their products are so cheap. Labour is only a fraction of the reason why it is cheap. You westerners have absolutely no idea how Chinese car industry works. You can’t understand how they utterly dominate the industry. That is why you people are fucked.😂
There are many videos on UA-cam in which foreign youtubers visit Chinese automobile factories. Don't live in stereotypes. Chinese workers have relatively low salaries, but their cost of living is also low
More Alyssa yay!
More FRANCIE !!!
Even a 150% tariff makes it a 20,000$ usd
Can't be US street legal, right? Or can you get a waiver for something like this? How much would a US homologated version cost?
Add some extra safety features to make it as crash worthy as a Fiat, add in the 100% tariff, and it'll be about $20,000.
@@jrharbortproductionsA 20k EV as a option. I think the market still relative empty at this segment
dcar company belong to tiktok
I should warn you. You get what you pay for. The BYD Seagull has poor crash test ratings compared to a Tesla Model 3.
Id rather roll in that than a cybertruck :-)
If the Chinese can figure out US safety standards and regulations, it's over for the domestics. A 100% tariff isn't going to be enough.
they don't need to figure out, they can design and build car of any standard to cost.
Is it crazy to say man of culture here? 😂
So what American company would even try to compete with this?
I WANT ONE. Ughhhhhhhh
better off in the US just buying a cheap bolt ev
Any idea if this vehicle could meet US Crash worthiness regulations? I somewhat doubt it.
it wouldn't, that's why these vehicles are starting to come to mexico , i live next to a border and i can see alot of byd and other Chinese cars thats wouldn't hold up to american standards or crash test that we have here .
@@Coyote.five.0 That is funny because Chinese cars are safer in Euro N cap than Mercedes and Volvo for example🤔
@@Lucas-wp2ph i know but not here once again in the u.s.a they are good for third world countries .
@@Coyote.five.0 US crash standards are less stringent than EU standards 😂
you can see the crash test results of this model car on youtube
Electric seats!
It’s fun to keep saying $8000 car but that’s pretty meaningless until you know if passes the safety standards to allow it to be sold here. And this is $12,000 by the time you get it with the supped up 67 hp version that can’t be taken on the freeway. And is that $12,000 in China? Even before tariffs what would it cost by the time you had this be a street legal golf cart here in the US? The styling is fun, but I’d guess you could get a used EV that’s street legal and can go on the freeway for a similar price. Wouldn’t be as cute but would probably make you more cheerful in the long run.
Native Asian car companies can build cheap cars.
i aint drivin no wu ling bingo
Finally, a new car I can afford. 😂😪
😂But if you are in the free world (whatever that means) US or canada. You can buy it.
Detroit would be so done... but you can't rely on other countries to build all the cars.
Shoutout LS400!
Disposable chinese car? Don't nobody know how to work on these things.
It's so simple. How much do you really need to know to fix it? Just need to access the parts that's it.
Bots taking over the comment section
china is making good ev cars which sell more than tesla thats a fact without sales in america fact