12 Speed CHAINRINGS and CHAIN Compatibility, Mixing SRAM and Shimano and 3rd Party, Tips and Tricks
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- CHAINRING and CHAIN compatibility for 12 speed. Upgrading to 12 speed? Shimano? SRAM Eagle? Here is all you need to know about the #Shimano and #SRAM 12 speed #chainring and chains #ttype
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⌚Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:28 12 speed Chain differences
02:23 Shimano Chainring
03:25 SRAM Chainring
03:50 12 Speed Quick Links
04:09 #1 Eagle 12s chainrings
04:53 #2 Shimano chainring with SRAM chain
06:23 Shimano 12s chainrings
07:02 #3 Old crank options
07:15 #4 SRAM chainring, Shimano Chain
07:50 #5 3rd Party chainring, non HG+
08:37 Best option?
08:57 Conclusions
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Thanks for this video. It is great to find such content on your channel.
I run an oval 32 tooth OneUp chainring with my Shimano SLX 12speed drivetrain and chain together with a Sunrace MZ903 cassette. That is needed because I use the old Shomano hub.
But the combination works very smooth.
As always, fantastic detail and review. Helpful!
Love your tech reveals, dude. Highly informative. I'm running SRAM GX chainring.
Bravo domnu`, am descoperit pe pielea mea treaba cu lantul si unghiurile !! Foarte bun materialul. Felicitari !
Another informative video as always thx. Your videos are the go to when building a new bike or just problems with an older one. Take care
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your channel is dynamite. i bought a new bike with deore 10 speed in the back and just a cheap rocky mountain crank and ring in the front with a square threaded bb. i want to get a better shimano bb and new crank and oval chainring. what do u suggest? im new to mtb so help is appreciated. thanks
On my old 11s Sram group I was using a hg Shimano chain and it worked fine. On my new Sram eagle I am using a eagle chain with a Garbaruk oval 34t and it works absolutely great 👍
LOL, now you post this just as I ordered an absoluteblack oval 32T for the spring when I'm replacing my chain on my Shimano crank. All great info.
I was just thinking if i could mix it but you have this video! Thanks a lot!
Great video as always! Using Brazilian Nottable chainring (great quality) on Shimano 12s system, but have to replace the quick link for an Eagle (too tight for the tooth profile of chainring, that is more like Sram compatible). On my gravel bike, 38T or 40T chinese generic (but great quality chainrings) with KMC 12s chain. Never had a chain drop, since using 11s chains or 12s, no matter how many parts I mixed.
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great video well worth the watch lots of information thanks
Currently have Raceface Next R cranks, so opted for OneUp components switch oval 30t chainring (pretty easy to install, haven't had to replace yet) - paired with ethirteen Helix 12 speed cassette (the smaller cluster with higher gears needs replacing, installed same time as chainring) and Sram GX deraileur. Been using sram NX chains, and stay on top of swapping chains for most part. Love learning about bike tech stuff, but sometimes this stuff goes over my head, probably cause what i have works great. Thanks for sharing!
Love the detail you get into in all your videos! I learn something new every time. I'll be using the Race Face Cinch (direct mount) chainring specifically for Shimano 12 speed since I already have RF Turbine cranks. Any tips or issues with that set up? Looks like Shimano also went to direct mount with their M8100 cranks. No more 4-bolt, which makes sense. For chain, I'll be using the Shimano XT M8100. Looking forward to the new set up and finally having a big granny gear for climbing the steeps around here! It will be interesting to see how fast the chain/cassette/chainring wears. Hopefully not too fast as the price of these parts is up there vs 11 spd! Also, right now there's a shortage of XT 12 speed cassettes in the USA. The current estimated wait time is March 2023! Luckily I found a buddy who was willing to sell me his that he just bought and had planned to return. Hope Shimano gets their supply chain issues solved soon.
NIce video. Thanks for the info!
Garbaruk is my 12s option, cassette and chainring. Nice videos !!
Great Video! I want to throw int the OneUp Components V2 Chainring! Perfect vor Shimano 12s drivetrains!
I migrated last year to 1x12, and it is a total game changer.
I wanted to go full Shimano, but I also wanted to keep it in a budget, so I chose to keep my cranks (which are not hollowtech style) and went for a SunRace CRMX00 chainring which I think woks great. But now that you mentioned it, I think indeed it is not fully compatible with the chain, and the wide tooths are wider than Shimano ones, so there is some friction and noise over there, but nothing huge. When they will tear up (either the chain or the chainring), I will switch to Shimano Cranks and chainring as well, but until then I am happy with the way it works.
Thank you for the explanation and the detailed video!
Well, to each his own. I have 2x11 XT (m8000) on my XC and 1x12 SLX (m7100) on my enduro bike. I'm new to 1x system, have it for 3 months only. I took my enduro uphill (1km vertical climb). I must say I'm not happy to see the chain crossed so much when I use the 51T. It's said chain is built for this but personally I feel it's just not right. It's an enduro bike, I expect this bike to be ridden mostly in bike parks.
On the other hand I can't be more happy with the 2x system on my XC. It provides better gear ratio (both on the low and high ends). Probably the only downside of this setup is that I can't use dropper post lever as there's no room in the cockpit for it. I have to use one that is next to the brake/shift levers.
@@LoveMTB Indeed, that was what I was aiming for initially, but it was out of my budget at the time.
@@matoatlantis I had 2x9 on my bike, but I was always having issues with dropping chain. And after some thought about it, I changed it to 1x12 SLX (with Deore derailleur) and I am totally happy with it. The gear range is just what I need, and I don't miss the gears that I had on 2x9. The lowest gear is lower than what I had, and the highest gear is higher than what I had, and I don't really use all the middle ones.
Basically a 9-10 speed sprocket with ratio 10/11-50/51 teeth like Box ones would have been best for my needs, but they are not available in my country. So Shimano or Sram with their 12s 10-51/11-50 where the only choices I had in this regard.
@@sebee.teodorescu Then it's an improvement for you, glad to hear that.
I just hope Shimano doesn't kill 2x systems just yet.
Great video!!!!!
Thank you... Another great video... 😊
Using a Absolute black oval "sram" boost chainring with GX dub cranks, GX cassette and GX chain but also am using Shimano XT rear derailleur with XT shifter in the drive train. Shmeagle GXT I guess? It works great for me and I sourced parts on second hand market via take offs. Saved a lot of money this way and mostly thanks to your channel I was able to do all of my own work at home! You rock!! You need a patreon or something.
Is this still going good for you? I have nx parts but looking at upgrading to XT parts mixed with gx
Very good video. Thank you
Thank you for this! I am building a "parts bin" hard-tail using only parts I've taken off other bikes as they get upgraded. At this point I have 12spd SLX cranks with Shimano 30t chain ring.I also have a 12spd SRAM GX derailleur, 10-52 cassette and matching XD free-hub wheelset . I plan on running this set up and I have both GX and XT chains to choose. Based on your videos I think the GX is the chain I'll pick. Thank you again!
You’re welcome. And I would also use the GX chain🤓
@@LoveMTB and even more than that, I built it with your 4-part “How to build a bike” series. I always had a pretty good idea of how to do most of it. Headsets, forks, bottom brackets etc. But hydraulic brakes and derailleur adjustment were always the biggest barriers and things I would take and pay someone to do them. Your videos are fantastic and I recommend them to anyone I can. Thank you again. 🙏
I’ve been racing Enduro at the expert level competitively for a decade, mixing drivetrain components mostly SRAM 12-speed with RaceFace cranks and chainrings, never a problem (except for Next SL crank-arms breaking!) Now that Shimano finally broke into the 12-speed market (at a much more affordable price,) I started racing Shimano XTR on one bike, and SRAM XO-1 on the other, both with RaceFace Cranks & chainrings. About a year ago (after Fox acquired RaceFace,) RaceFace had deep discounts on their chainrings. I bought enough to last a few years of riding and racing. This last bunch has been giving me constant issues. I just got home from a CA Enduro Series race at Northstar (8/20/23,) and I had to remove a brand new XT chain and run a SRAM chain on a brand new RaceFace chainring, but it still didn’t work well in the biggest gears while trying to hammer down the high-speed sections. I think RaceFace dumped a bunch of chainrings because they knew they had compatibility issues.
INteresting, thanks for sharing your experience. I have not used RaceFace chainrings for a while.
this video is a lifesaver! 👏
I can confirm Sram chainring (34T X-Sync 2 eagle) works great with Shimano M6100 chain, shifter, M7100 cassette and hub. I used Sram eagle power lock and it shifts so smooth and so quiet that I still can't believe how well it worked out. Even the chainline turned out ok with the old Shimano Deore M590 crankset.
I would highly recommend converting your bike to 1x12! it's not as hard and not as expensive as the 3x6 fanboys would make you believe 😋
PS 10-51T range blew my mind 🤩
Hey, I've got a shimano 12s cassette and derailleur with a sram dub crankset, will a shimano chain work with the sram crankset/chainring, cheers 👍
Excellent video. Thanks heaps! Just answered all my questions. Currently running older 11spd GX drivetrain which is at its end. Will be replacing with shimano slx 12spd but keeping sram crank (with new chain ring). Relieved that it will be compatible. Will replace with shimano crank at later stage. Thanks again
Did it work?
That's the first time I have seen a decent explanation why Shimano HG+ chains are not compatible with other brands. And your explanation was great, like the entire video!
I was kind of forced to go back to NX 1x11 and have GRX 11s on my Gravel bike. Previously I used a conplete Eagle GX drivetrain and later upgraded to an X01 chain.
Que interesante, gracias máster por la información recibe un cordial saludo desde Cintalapa Chiapas México
Running 12spd Deore with a Oneup chainring. There was quite a bit of noise when the chainring was new but after one ride it got quiet.
My other bike has a race face chainring and it was silent from the get go. So it must come down to Oneups "universal" design.
I recently change the 11 speed to a Sra-Mano 12 speed system (based on your experiment).
The system contains a SRAM GX axs, XT M8100 Cassette + Dt Swiss micro spline freehub, Shimano Deore XT Chain CN-M8100, and an old FC-M9000-1 crankset, these all works fine with the Shimano CR M90 34T chainring (not narrow-wide) + chainguide.
I thought sra-mano was some kind of Arbic bicycle brand before read the rest words.
@@user-zu4nl7bm9e 😂 ..sounds weird, but works great!✌🏽
I'm running quite a mixed setup myself. Shimano SLX 12 speed cassette, Sram GX 12 speed derailleur, Absolute Black oval chain ring and KMC 12 speed chain.
I have to say that is running without any issue what so ever.
In the past I've also ran a Sram NX 12 speed cassete, with Shimano Deore 12speed derailleur and Blacksprie Snaggletooth oval chain ring and KMC 12 spedd chain.
@@LoveMTB maybe "approved" by the community defenetley not by Sram or Shimano😅
Thanks for the video, I’m running an eagle chainring with Shimano 1x12 it seems to work perfectly, but I never thought I’m about it wearing out a bit faster.
@@LoveMTB just the standard Shimano one, but the Eagle chainring did have about 2-3000km on it before I converted the rear and chain to Shimano, so maybe it has worn down enough that it fits fine?
@@tim3978 is it a chainring with X Sync Profile?
@@kotelettschweiss7811 yes X SYNC 2
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Absolute Black Oval 32 on XT 12 speed Drive train, tried KMC made noise, got the Shimano XTR Chain, nice and quiet.
Excelente vídeo. Felicidades.
Im not sure if this video will solve the exact Problem I have as I am Planning on using an X sync Chainring with a Shimano 12spd Setup, but it was helpful nonetheless. This video is Just amazing. This will just remove so many headscratches. Thank you :)
@@LoveMTB I ended up with the safe route, Deore Chainring IT IS
I use ZRACE 38T Shimano specific and haven't had any problem 👌
I’m using the Wolftooth CAMO system on SX cranks. It seemed like a good idea, could get a Shimano compatible chainring that fits the system in the future but I probably won’t.
Excelente explicación, toda mi transmisión es XT de 12v
Excellent, thanks! Any input regarding the quality of Work Components chainrings?
Thanks!
Started my Shimano 12sp endeavours with a ROTOR crank oval chainring, and the chain would grind, because of the protruding links. I contacted ROTOR for a solution, and all they said was, ‘run a kmc quick link’ they even made a video about it…..🤷♂️ I ended up grinding all the wide teeth to fit the chain 👌
Great video, thank you! Can I use new force AXs crankset and axs chainring with my 11speed rival group?
Great. Thanks for the chain internal spacing shots !! Wow. Very interesting; I guess I'm good. Especially after installing an AXS only Eagle cassette which seems to jump all over the place??
My Trance X2 Mullet setup --- SLX 7100 crankset with 30T driving my new Rear 12x148 boost XD Hydra + X01 B1 10-52T cassette and GX 520% RD = super smooth (no difference in X01 rd; 1/2 price) ---- even with my KMC X12 silver chain and SLX shifter (X01 so stiff/too large?)
Waiting on new copper E*Thirteen Helix R (12S 9-59T 2 piece ) cassette to test out --- We'll see - Paid $280 instead of X01 $433! Ouch. Concerned the also ordered to test XX1 copper chain works well with my SLX chainring???? The KMC X12 is still solid and smooth. So Fun.
@@LoveMTB yup. just viewed it today -- awesome and very helpful.
I approve of this video
I use an absolute black oval chainring specified for shimano 12s with a full slx 12s drivetrain
Excellent video. I'm not entirely clear and have a question on going from SRAM 1x11 to Eagle 1x12. I have a elliptical Wolftooth chaingring (38, 110 BCD) with 11-41 SRAM cassette and SRAM Apex Derailleur. I am thinking about moving to a 12 speed cassette and derailleur but wondering if I should change out the chainring also (and I know I have to change lots of things), I'm only thinking about the chainring here. Thank you.
I'm running a 12 speed slx group set with Shimano cranks, shifter, derailleur, chain, absolute black chain ring and sun race 11-51t cassette. Runs well for me, I'm sure it'd shift a little smoother with a Shimano cassette, but this allows me to keep using my hg hub body wheel set.
My bike came with a Sunrace cassette (shortages I am guessing) on an HG hub. Other than that is all Shimano 12 speed. Found out it was HG after I attempted to swap it to an XT cassette (microspline)....but I have new wheels now so there is that. 😑💰
@@LoveMTB Got some Stan'sFlow MK4 with oil slick Bitex hubs in a sale. 108 poi. Swapped the grease for oil. Good so far. Can't say that the XT cassette shifts any smoother than the Sunrace tbh. It was 200g lighter though
@@LoveMTB I have some 29er, 32 spoke raceface ARC 40mm offset set rims laced to dt Swiss 350 hubs with 54t ratchet, running 29x2.8 tires, as well as some stock bontrager wheels (45i) with studded 29x2.8's, and some stock orbea wheels (30i) with a decent hub an 29x2.4 tires. I'll swap between the 3 for different conditions on my orbea Occam h30 and Trek 1120.
@2scoops642, what are the no. Of teeth on your chainring? Please tag and comment.
#4 SRAM chainring with Shimano 12sp chain. No-go.
I had excessive chain wear and really bad chain suck. I have deep gouges on my chainstay because of it.
Changing to a Shimano 12sp specific ring fixed my issues.
Полезное видео. Спасибо. 👍
im currently using 12s shimano chain. do you think it's ok to use original shimano 11s missing link because the 12s link is 3x the price compared to 11s missig link. thanks again man for your content, helps me alot.
Long time viewer, thank you for you hard work first off.
So I am planning a drivetrain build..
Shimano SLX Derailleur, Shimano XT shifter, E*THIRTEEN TRS PLUS 12 SPEED CASSETTE 9-50
My question is: do you think a shimano 12 speed slx chain would work with my old raceface 32t narrow wide chainring?
Edit: just played it safe and bought a 30t raceface steel chainring for 20$ that's Shimano 12 specific.
Nice video, an upgrade question for a full x groupset , can i keep only dub crank and x-sync 2 chainring and replace all others with shimano xt 12s components ? thanks in advance, i have read that shimano xt 12s chain is not working well with sram x-sync 2 chainring
Hi, I love your video. I have a quiestion, Can I used the same chain? Where I live there are very few hills and I want to get more speed. I have a SRAM (1 x 12) 11-50 38t chainring. I would like to get a 40t or 42t chainring. Would I need a longer chain? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I have never used the 50( just not hilly enough) I was thinking maybe a 46t but that might be to big. Thanks
hmm, recently put a new shimano 12s deore chain on Sram SX 12s drive train as preventive maytanence. Worked fine on bike stand, will look closer at thease parts when the season starts for my trail bike.
Thinking of doing a 12sp- praxis crank chainring, garbaruk cassette, Ratio modded brifters/ sram derailure and chain.
I have a 12s NX derraileaur with NX chainring in y cannondale FSI, but i changed the cassette for a shimano SLX, i have to change the chain too becouse of what you said about the internals, and i instantly notice an upgrade in the smooth of the shift, specially upshifting with load. However the chainring did not get me any trouble, it has 500km aprox. I will keep an eye on the quicklink and buy an spare of SRAM brand. But overall the ''Sharmano'' transmission works flawless (i apologize for my writing, i'm from argentina and it's been a while since the last time i wrote in english)
On my bike I had chainring from E13 but I´ve switched to oval from Garbaruk :) but E13 is pretty good.
Great video as always. Have you used any other 12speed chains kmc etc. I’m behind still on 11speed and only use kmc chains at the minute found them to last longer on my setup
I use only KMC 12 speed chains with my SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain and they work perfectly. I just bought a KMC XO1 grade chain but I haven’t used it yet… nothing wrong with my regular grade chains.
Like SRAM, KMC is manufactured in Taiwan. This for me is a positive.
PS, if I had a fully functioning 11 speed system I would not be looking to switch to 12. Even with steep terrain where I struggle not to loop out, I seldom use my 52 tooth cog.
Hi. Can I use SRAM X-Sync 2 chainring with Shimano 11 speed chain (including Shimano 11 speed quick link)? Will that work okay?
Hi, this video kinda opened my eyes, but just to be sure - currently there's a complete Shimano XTR drivetrain on my bike and I want to get a spider based powermeter, which is avalible with either 8-100 bcd or 4-104 bcd mounting options for the chainring.
The obvious choice would be to opt for the 8-100 bcd option, buy an XT chainring, dismount it from the original spider and use that, but some say this version of the powermeter is not that great and it's better to opt for 4-104 bcd. Then the obvious choice would be the Shimano HG+ chainring from Wolftooth, but that one with shipping to my place is crazy expensive.
Now to my question related to your video. From what you said, it seems I could go with the 4-104 bcd version of the powermeter and get any cheap narrow-wide chainring, then swap the chain to Sram or KMC and it would work just fine with the rest of the drivetrain. Is that correct?
Thanks in instance for your answer.
I have SRAM GX AXS, GX 10-52 cassette, XT cranks with the absolute black oval chain ring. The chain is SRAM 12 speed, the nice rainbow one. I didn't plan it this way, it's just the parts I ended up with. I tried to change to the Oneup oval chainring, but my chainring bolts are on too tight. Couldn't get them off. So I've kept the absolute black chainring in. After some maintenance the other day, I went for is test ride and noticed some creaking under power. Changed to chain and it went away. I hope I am not destroying the chains some how. Seems to work fine with no extra resistance though.
My wife's bikes use Absolute Black chainrings and 12 speed Shimano chains, XT derailleurs, and Sunrace cassettes. One bike is 12 speed and the other is 11. They both work great with the 12 speed chain. I use her old chains, slightly worn, on my 1x11 and I get some noise from the 11 speed chainring. It works and the noise is only there on hard climbs. It annoys me. I want a new chain ring now. The 12 speed chain works fine in the 11 speed Sunrace cassette amd Sram derailleur i have. Or i could try a SRAM chain. But since I'm rotating through Shimano chains the chainring seems like a good alternative. Or maybe go back to 11 speed chains. I noticed the shifting actually seemed better with the 12 speed chain on the 11 speed cassette. Well it works good enough for what I do - long rides with lots of climbing. If i raced, i couldn't tolerate it.
quick question, if i upgrade my shimano chainring from a 30t to 32t, do i need to replace my chain? or can i still use the existing. this also goes for going to a oval chainring.
I value your info. Is the SunRace 12 speed cassette compatible w/ Shimano chain?
Got a Garbaruk cassette, a Kore round 28t chain ring, an X01 derailleur, and a KMC chain. I call my ride, the Frankenbike.
I have Shimano SLX M7100 cranks, and I have a 34-tooth direct mount Chinese chainring, but I would like to change it for an oval one, which manufacturers do you recommend?
Hi how can I send you a video of a problem I have on my bike, but we can’t figure out if the problem is the chain, cassette, hub… had this issue since day one. Thx
i use a truvativ fire x with one up 34 t end 9speed in the back with sram x5 derailler end sram x7 shifter end it's work like a dream
I have replaced the chain of a Sram Eagle 12 speed OEM, to a KMC compatible 12 speed chain, cut to the same lenght and it never seems to shift properly. I then bought a Sram 12 speed chain for the Eagle 12 speed and no issues. My question is: do I have to use a Sram Eagle chain for the Sram Eagle 12 set? I did this to, two other bikes and same thing. Once I got the Sram Eagle chains for both, never had issues.!??
Garbaruk is worth a mention here. Their chain ring works amazing with both SRAM & Shimano 12s, many different crank and bcd options. Long lasting & quiet , total win.
@@LoveMTB ahh,i missed that somehow. Give them a go, Garbaruk quality nice gear.
Which Shimano 12s chain should I use? How about the CN-M6100 12s of the Deore 1x12 group ?
@@biciclettaclassica personally I dont skimp on chain, I prefer the CN-M9100.
What about round vs oval, is there a noticable difference for you? I've tried oval for 1 season, but for some reason the shifting performance was really downgraded. I've had the bike indexed and checked by pro mechanics and spent a lot of time trying to tinker with the derailleur, but with oval I can't get the shifting to be as good. I either get issues with shifting, or it drops off the biggest cog. It's really weird. Also I heard people loving oval and getting it to reduce knee pain, but for me it was the opposite - I've developed serious knee pain for months the same season I've ridden the oval. Not sure if it's me or the oval. Or the derailleur or oval. But so far I've had really mixed results. This is on nx eagle with gx cassette/chain. I've got now an slx bike and I'm tempted to try oval again, but surely manufacturers would spec oval if it was better, but all stock bikes are round. I haven't seen many pros using oval either. I'd like to know your thoughts and maybe if you had any issues with oval.
Love and watch every video you make.
I use oval. I am a roadie mostly. Durianrider swears by oval chainrings. I have NO mechanical problems with oval chainrings. Everything is smooth and functional. BUT, i must say after 2 years of using ovals on MTB, road and indoor trainer - that for me is definitely just a psychological "benefit". No change in performance. No FTP increase. No physical mecannical benefit or loss. I must add they are lighter and better looking (in my opinion). The rear derailleur "dangle" right-left-right-left on every stroke - NO damage or wear on it. So.... bottom line from me is : to much marketing. If you LIKEit ... tryit. Don't expect miracles.
@@LoveMTB I'm curious to compare the slx now. Wasn't too impressed by the nx/gx combo. All of the mechanics I've talked to said the bike was checked and checked again for any misalignment, bends, off axis on the hanger, changed cables, etc. And all of them found no issues at all, yet on the round it was hard to get it indexed, while the oval was almost unusable. I didn't know it was the oval as I've changed the cassette and chain at the same time, but in retrospect I should've saved myself months of frustration by testing round chainring. Also, I have no clue how an oval ring could affect shifting, I guess it interacts with the clutch? Never heard of issues like that. But once changed it was clearly the problem in my case. Perhaps there was a small issue with the deraileur that was hard to detect, but oval would exaggerate the problem? Not sure.
I have a Shimano 12 speed drivetrain with XT crankset (96BCD), may i know which is the largest chainring that is compatible? I am prepared to swap the shimano quick link to reduce fiction
How about the Shimano 11s chainrings? I'd like to use a steel chainring on my m6000 crank, but they are only made for 11s, while O have 12d chain.
I am getting 2 race seasons out of my Shimano chainwheel. I run a KMC X12 chain and have replaced the chain 4 times during the 2 race seasons.
Got a 2022 fuel ex 7 NX! Im converting to shimano, i got slx cassette, xt long cage derailer , xt shifter, xt chain, 12 speed, NX crank wt absolute oval the XT chain gets stuck so i go back to my short, double link GX chain to lengthen it! My question is should i buy shimano crank 170 ? What model? There’s like 3 for SLX and do i need a new bottom bracket pressfit? Or the sram works? Thank u in advance ! Been watching you’re video!
I have a complete 12-speed slx drivetrain (microspline) on my mtb and I don't like the way the chain sits on my cassette, like this 1:49. It makes noise sometimes and i can tell it's coming from the chain not sitting snug on the cassette. Please which mtb 12-speed cassette (microspline) can i get that will allow my slx chain to sit better? I am willing to go with an 11-speed cassette if that would fit my drivetrain, as i've noticed those 11-speed cassettes fit their chains snug.
Would it be possible to use a 10 speed hyperglide chain on a sram 12 speed absolute black chainring with no issues because of the size difference between 10 speed and 12 speed chains?
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good day sir love your videos!! question, 12sp gx eagle cassette, shimano crank and chainring , what’s the best suited chain for these components?
@@LoveMTB will do, oh it’s axs too how good!
Does the Shimano Chainring for FC-MT610 fit the m8000 xt crankset? I fit does is the simpler cheaper most compatible solution
I got a question. Can you use the m5100 stock chainring (1x) on the m6100 chain?
I'm running a Race Face Chainring with a XX1 chain - it all works great.
I’ve just got a bike with race face chainring and arms
I am now using this immortal combo: xx1 crank with garbaruk 34t chainring, garbaruk XD cassete, sram GX eagle deraileur and Shimano XT 12sp chain! Cheers :)
@@LoveMTB Garbaruk Cassete after 3k km is still in very good shape and works as good as Sram GX cassete which was less durable and much heavier.
Shimano chain because of durability, availability and price. Sram XX1 chain is unavailable here in Poland or available with price two times higher than year ago which is sick!
@@jromtb Mam pytanie odnośnie Garbaruka. Może bedziesz wiedział. Potrzebuję (prawdopodobnie) tarczy GXP/DUB MTB (BOOST) Jest podana informacja, że tarcza jest kompatybilna z łańcuchami SRAM i Shimano 12s. Tarcze np Absoluteblack mogą być kompatybilne albo ze SRAM albo z Shimano HG+. Ale nie dwie możliwości jednocześnie. Jak więc Garbaruk to łączy? Wg mnie musi iść na jakieś kompromisy w tym wypadku. Będę wdzięczny za odpowiedź.
thank you for this outstanding video. it's really nice to get hands-on information on this topic...
i have one question that no one could answer until now: because i also do a lot of bikepacking/long distance tours on tarmac, i still need a 2x setup to get the really high speeds i want.
even 26/36 is not enough for me, since i come from an old 3x setup and so I need a 28/40 crankset. For the 28t, i would use a wolftooth chainring, but this one is not HG+ 12spd compatible (Drop-Stop A). So i would have to use a SRAM 12spd chain.
I have an XTR 12spd cassette. Would it be compatible with a SRAM 12spd chain and do you think it will work ok?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Hello my neighbour, what a coincidence to meet you here!
I am here because of similar questions concerning my new Garbaruk chainring (and I have found very useful answers in the video and the comments).
@@martinkalt das gibt's nicht!!!! Musste ich gerade meiner Mama zeigen, sie ist gerade bei mir in Wien! Sehr schön, müssen wir mal eine Tour gemeinsam machen
Thanks for the deep dive. It's helped to verify the noise I'm hearing on my Canyon Neuron. It uses a Deore Hyperglide + 12s chain but makes a terrible sound while backpedaling especially. I'm working with an FSA Comet Crankset that are listed in multiple places as being Shimano 12 compatible, or Shimano 11/12 compatible. The Megatooth chainring on it says SH12 so and I can't find anything that specifically states its for Hyperglide + 12s. The problem seems to be the chamfered inner plates, which hang up on the edge of the chainring teeth for fleeting moment just before it seats fully into the trough of the chainring teeth. It would be easy to simply solve the noise issue by replacing the chain with a SRAM but then I would lose the simultaneous two-cog engagement that the Hyperglide + provides. I'm thinking Canyon actually may owe me a new ring that is actually compatible with this chain.
Anyone else having an issue with the Shimano Hypeglide + making noise while backpedaling?
Interesting find. Assume Canyon went withe FSA's claim that they are HG+ compatible, how much riding have you had on the drivetrain? It settles down a bit after 100km or so.
@@LoveMTB I wouldn't doubt the sound could go away eventually, but it's going to take a lot longer than 100km for that to happen. Made a little video on it here. Today Canyon offered a $150 credit to purchase a Shimano crankset instead, which, to me, seems like an admission that there is no solution with the FSA. This is the video I sent to them: ua-cam.com/video/duVb5NBH2kQ/v-deo.html
@@allrounderbicycle7193 Yeah that's high friction from teeth that are not HG+ specific. I would take the crankset they are offering you!
@@LoveMTB And from FSA:
"According to our policy, I'm not able to "warranty" an item that is functional due to the way it sounds when being used in a way that is not related to its function [pedaling backwards]. I can offer a 30% replacement discount. I recommend using the $150 credit that you mentioned Canyon gave you for this concern along with the 30% discount I am offering, and try out the 11 speed ring."
@@allrounderbicycle7193 Stay away from FSA next time? 😉
I took a Katana 42teeth 1x11 instead 3x11 lowspeed .. Chain Line moved in correct Position its nicer and faster than before with KMC Titan chain
There’s one guy on UA-cam who’s taking the fixing bolts from XX1 to install onto the GX RD to improve tight tolerances between the RD and hanger. I’m not sure if this would benefit AXS since the GX AXS RD fixing bolts are almost identical to the ones on XX1 AXS.
Interesting I think I'll swap my Shimano and SRAM quick links around, every now and then I'll get a really loud click and I think this might be the cause.
Hello, I had Shimano XT 2x12, now I am installing AXS GX and XX1 chainring with praxxis cranks. Can I use SRAM chain with Shimano 12spd XT cassete?
38t chainring Shimano Slx and 12speed cogs 10-51t slx shimano is good for trail?
Hi, I am looking for help; I have a 30t 11spd x-sync chainring with a cs-m7100 12spd cassette, and cn-m7100 chain, must the chainring be change to something else?, pls let me know any comments.
On sram pages said the XPLR cassette is only compatibale with flattop chain, why that?
I'm planning to use a 10 s old crank with 12s shimano chain & RD on XPLR cassette, hoping it works.
can I use Slx crank set together with my SX Rd and cassete?
Hey bud not related to chain rings but xt crank spindles. Bought a wheelsmfg bottom bracket and it doesn’t have the plastic inserts on the bearings like the shimano bb52. I’ve heard that the metal on metal from the bearing on the crank spindle is no good. What’s your thoughts?
@@LoveMTB that’s what I figured. Appreciate the response. You my friend are the shimano guru
Is a Slx 12 speed chain ring compatible with an 11 speed chain?
Great info, just what i was looking for. I am going 12 speed with 11 speed 1x xtr m9000 crank and AB oval 32 chainring. kinda worried about the uncompatibility. Soon will see how it goes. Really dont want to change the crank and chainring.
How did this work out for you? I have a similar set up with the xtr m9020 crank, 12 speed cassette, AB oval chainring and a 12 speed KMC chain and the chain does not sit flush on the chainring. I'm trying to figure out if my problem is the chain or chainring
Nvm the quicklink wasn't locked in it works fine now lol
@@YaddaYaddaDa Works prefect with shimano SLX chain. XT 12 speed ist fantastish!! BTW had a used once XTR chain and tried it - made terrible problems, broke several times due to difference in chain tool and pins i guess