The Exploitative Push For Social Networking In Games (The Jimquisition)

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  • @LabMatt
    @LabMatt 5 років тому +2425

    Say what you will about EA, I still think it's very progressive of them to let a synth run the company.

    • @Deadlock239
      @Deadlock239 5 років тому +135

      The brotherhood of steel tried to warn us dammit!

    • @patricom05
      @patricom05 5 років тому +94

      I believe they prefer "Artificial Human"

    • @Tobascodagama
      @Tobascodagama 5 років тому +37

      I bet he leaves the cap off his toothpaste, too.

    • @RaccoonGrrrl
      @RaccoonGrrrl 5 років тому +74

      @@patricom05 "Mechanical Surprise"

    • @FREQQLES
      @FREQQLES 5 років тому +30

      It's not a joke, they found him inside of a meteor.

  • @SpellCorrectly
    @SpellCorrectly 5 років тому +842

    "People want to play games together"
    Does that mean more local multiplayer games?
    "No"

    • @Haan22
      @Haan22 5 років тому +105

      "You can't get them to spend money if they are actually playing together, make them fight each other, matchmake unfairly and display the premium guns that the losers were killed by." - Quite ethical business strategist at [insert favorite AAA-publisher here]

    • @tabushka292
      @tabushka292 5 років тому +38

      @@Haan22 Similarly to how they could have just made free cheat codes in Dead Space 3 that would give resources to those so called "mobile users" who are like "I need this now" "I want this now" if their goal was really what they said, but that wouldn't make them all the money in the world. Yet somehow you still see people defending these companies who blatantly lie like this.

    • @OrangeHarrisonRB3
      @OrangeHarrisonRB3 5 років тому +68

      with only ONE COPY of the game? And give the second player a free ride? Remember when microsoft wanted it so you couldnt even watch a movie if kinect detected a second person in the room?

    • @remem95
      @remem95 5 років тому +22

      “Stop being actually social, so you can be more 'sOcIaL'“ I guess

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 5 років тому +7

      "Everyone wants to slay demons... as a FAMILY"

  • @TubularAnde
    @TubularAnde 5 років тому +288

    Nothing brings to mind the picture of an ethical industry like the concept of 'hunting whales'

  • @CervantesVI
    @CervantesVI 5 років тому +466

    Jim-faced-Cat into sexy Venom is probably the most Jim Sterling opening of any Jimquisition ever.

    • @effdiffeyeknow5864
      @effdiffeyeknow5864 5 років тому +8

      We must start a dreadful movement. To get every cat photo overlaid with Jim mother ******* sterling son!

    • @DaddysFlipside
      @DaddysFlipside 5 років тому +11

      Sounds like fighting game terminology.

    • @effdiffeyeknow5864
      @effdiffeyeknow5864 5 років тому +1

      @@DaddysFlipside
      Finish him!

  • @od1401
    @od1401 5 років тому +792

    Hearing them go on about whales unironically is a dystopian snapshot of a morally dead industry.

    • @samerm8657
      @samerm8657 5 років тому +17

      Exactly! I kept thinking about Dishonored 😂

    • @heckyes
      @heckyes 5 років тому +35

      Unlimited profit at all costs, whether legal or moral has been present in humanity for a long time. Entire Nations have been founded upon this one principle.

    • @ChocorocK
      @ChocorocK 5 років тому +15

      @@heckyes Back then the merchants still had a concept of "us" they as part of a nation.
      Now they wish to be above it all.

    • @comrademartinofrappuccino
      @comrademartinofrappuccino 5 років тому +3

      There was no moral standard in gaming from the begining. It is about profit

    • @jesseteixeira6284
      @jesseteixeira6284 5 років тому +8

      All industry is morally dead. You can't kill what never lived.

  • @pedrorivero5209
    @pedrorivero5209 5 років тому +381

    The term "whale" comes from casino jargon! Where's the argument that micro-transactions aren't gambling, when they are literally using the terminology of that business?

    • @salsaandbrwx1449
      @salsaandbrwx1449 5 років тому +5

      To be fair, the term microtransactions could Apply to simply buying a cheap indie game digitally and even p2w microtransactions can be honest, you can spend the money on actual things you know youre gonna get by your own choice rsther than some random rng.

    • @ethericboy
      @ethericboy 5 років тому +5

      And its not Loot Boxes anymore but `Surprise Mechanics` :)

    • @pickelsvx
      @pickelsvx 4 роки тому +9

      Then you have Konami who make slot machines and pachinko games for brick and mortar casinos... Makes you wonder what other publishers and dev outfits do the same, and try to hide it.

    • @roundone21
      @roundone21 4 роки тому +4

      Have u seen NBA2k20....? they are using actual pachinko machines in the game it self ...they just don't care anymore....

    • @Kairos_Akuma
      @Kairos_Akuma 3 роки тому

      @@salsaandbrwx1449 That's not how the games work :) Most of them don't even offer good 'direct to buy stuff' anymore. The awesome shit is in the Slotmachines - I mean lootboxes.
      And yeah. Using Casino-terms should be a wakeup call for the law-making bafoons.
      Just watch the legendary "make players into payers " speech Jim showed here in full. It's amazing how few fecks are given about us customers x)

  • @awesomeness1122
    @awesomeness1122 5 років тому +522

    4:40 "The biggest mistake humanity ever made is getting to know itself better"- Jim sterling 2019
    Them's some deep words Jim.

    • @ElvenMans
      @ElvenMans 5 років тому +17

      Put that on a T-Shirt!

    • @eljoel89
      @eljoel89 5 років тому +4

      @@ElvenMans I would buy the fuck out of that shirt.

    • @ty_teynium
      @ty_teynium 5 років тому +1

      If we went over every brilliant Quote from Jim Sterling. We'd have an Almanac.

    • @captainsawbones
      @captainsawbones 5 років тому +2

      @@ty_teynium screw that, we'd have a *religion*.

    • @spiffy1209
      @spiffy1209 5 років тому +1

      gold

  • @IAmSamsquatch
    @IAmSamsquatch 5 років тому +410

    "People want social games!"
    The kicker is I actually do want some games to be social.
    I want social games like they were 10-12 years ago. I remember fondly the days of Halo 3 and Reach, Gears of War 2 and 3, and Modern Warfare 1 and 2 when my friends and I would play and holler at strangers and the strangers would holler back at us. I remember the time when I was 16 playing MW2 talking to a marine that got back from Afghanistan and how cool that was. I remember the time I and other gamers helped a kid in the lobby going through a depressive episode and how heartwarming it was despite how terrible gamers can be. Man those were genuinely great times! You really don't see that much anymore. It's so silent.
    So yes, as an extrovert I do want social games.
    The Boss Tweed gaming industry doesn't want that.
    They want it where if I'm playing RDR2 or Witcher 3 I can be perpetually harassed by others to play a game I do not want to play or buy things I don't want to buy. They want a game where I'm encouraged to spend money and harass others to spend money.
    That is NOT social gaming.
    That is a pyramid scheme.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 5 років тому +30

      Even worse, it's likely a *global* pyramid scheme. One that wants to reach out to the entire world, if it alrea y hasn't done so by now.

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 5 років тому +3

      Well said!

    • @NetMoverSitan
      @NetMoverSitan 5 років тому +11

      They wonder why sales are "below expectations"...it's because there's a difference between what they believe and what reality is like, they have a severe psychological defect which blinds them to that fact.

    • @themagalanium9491
      @themagalanium9491 5 років тому +8

      I feel you and I wholeheartedly agree with your concept of social gamers. I wish those days of halo 3 still existed

    • @TheFranssiBrother
      @TheFranssiBrother 5 років тому +5

      Best thing about the past multiplayer games was that you could actually call out your opponent for being bad. Now you cant even say gg ez

  • @DunnoJustLuckyIGuess
    @DunnoJustLuckyIGuess 5 років тому +160

    Grumpy old bastard here. For me, socializing in video games is a drain of the mental energies that hobbies (such as video games) are supposed to replenish. I play games to escape people, not to be bloody surrounded by them and have them come in and just ninja my god-damn quests out from under me (forcing me to wait until something respawns or whatever). Couch modes? Hell yes. But that's not what's happening here, is it?
    AAA gaming is a fucking joke anyway - and that's when the games actually friggin' work, which is a whole other topic and *don't even get me started on that*.
    Thank fuck for indies, and - of course - for Jim Sterling.

    • @ieyasumcbob
      @ieyasumcbob 5 років тому +8

      What's the equivalent of a high five for us anti-socials? A quiet tip of the head and shuffling off to you, sir

  • @Davis_237
    @Davis_237 5 років тому +451

    Switching "Whales" for "Cattle" would imply the business model is sustainable...at least they're not fooling themselves...

    • @MrZeeky77
      @MrZeeky77 5 років тому +5

      Too real!

    • @ArifRWinandar
      @ArifRWinandar 5 років тому +19

      Cattles implies there's a lot of them. Whales, in the sense of whale hunting, is a better euphemism.

    • @TatsuZZmage
      @TatsuZZmage 5 років тому +1

      just waiting for the slaughter

    • @bdrago5420
      @bdrago5420 5 років тому +6

      Sustaunable unless you burn down the rainforests for grazing lands, or you factory farm them and only feed them corn and they fart out greenhouse gasses.
      There is no ethical consumption of microtransactions (except maybe Path of Exile or Warframe...)

    • @wabbajackwabbajack6932
      @wabbajackwabbajack6932 5 років тому +1

      "Cattle of the Sea"
      -COME GET UR WHALE BLUBBER M8!!!!

  • @AndrewPeddie
    @AndrewPeddie 5 років тому +623

    6:22 Imagine unironically calling people "whales" and "super-whales" at a talk like this. The way these people de-humanise their customers is nothing short of disgusting.

    • @jacobsmith4428
      @jacobsmith4428 5 років тому +100

      De-humanizing your enemies is often the first step any leader takes, because it allows those that work below you to stop seeing their techniques on them as inhumane. This is manipulation tactics used in warfare being performed so casually in the game industry. Says a lot about how it is these days, doesn't it?

    • @charlesmelenyzer8919
      @charlesmelenyzer8919 5 років тому +72

      In crime it is called 'neutralization' you are trying to convince yourself you are not a bad person for hurting these people. They deserve this. It is a common thread in business and politics these days, dehumanize then destroy.

    • @OrangeyChocolate
      @OrangeyChocolate 5 років тому +26

      It's also why the slave trade was ever a thing.

    • @nhagan001
      @nhagan001 5 років тому +16

      @@charlesmelenyzer8919 yeah I have heard about that tactic.
      It's easy to do something terrible if you have a distinct disconnect from it.
      Giving it a label that would make it inhumane or inhuman gives you this.... I hesitate to say "reason", but excuse is too weak a word.
      The technique just seems to flip the right switch more often than not... and people do what you want like you intended.

    • @chungisyoung4good
      @chungisyoung4good 5 років тому +1

      Androids? Nah fukem.

  • @ComradeSeanski
    @ComradeSeanski 5 років тому +164

    meanwhile there are children who are literally bullied at school for being "default" skin in the hottest games. That's what these companies want when they want social interaction, peer pressure

    • @brandonporter8509
      @brandonporter8509 4 роки тому +10

      The funny thing is I’m sure everyone will say blame The parents or blame the teachers. Here’s a better idea how about we blame the media for commercializing everything. Have you ever Seen someone bullied because they don’t have the cool clothes or because they wear off brand basketball shoes while the cool kids have Jordans or they must be inferior because they still have a hand me Down iPhone 4 instead of a brand new iPhone 12.
      We have been okay with allowing bullying to be a consequence
      Of not being rich because the rich can make money by parents caving
      In and buying things to keep their kid from being bullied. The goal
      Of the corporations is to teach people if you don’t spend money on our flashy thing your kid deserves To be bullied. The schools aren’t going to stop the bullying because when they try to stop it the teachers get in trouble so the teachers just give up and let the kids be bullied. Why don’t someone create legislation to try and stop the bullying simple because the legislators are in the pocket of the corporations that make money from people just giving in and buying the thing so their kin don’t get punched. And then the bullies get a new batter thing and the cycle repeats and your kid now needs your money for another flashy don’t bully me token.

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 3 роки тому

      I knew. I keep telling everyone that fortnite and its fans are pure cancer. This is just proof.

  • @Pvt_Hudson
    @Pvt_Hudson 5 років тому +491

    Social interaction is the exact polar opposite of why I play video games lol

    • @стрелок-ч7р
      @стрелок-ч7р 5 років тому +23

      I play games to escape others and my sad life

    • @zatank
      @zatank 5 років тому +8

      Much of the reason I play so many games is because I have little social interaction in the first place lol

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 5 років тому +28

      Exactly. After exhausting myself having to socialize, I wanna recharge by going home and playing games alone, not having to deal with more people.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +7

      It makes me ill. I hate the feeling that "someon else" is in my living room, when I'm trying to de-stress from work.
      I now only play singleplayer games, like Bloodborne, Mario Galaxy etc.

    • @klontjespap
      @klontjespap 5 років тому +3

      factorio turns me into a basement dweller lol

  • @Romanticoutlaw
    @Romanticoutlaw 5 років тому +1337

    when Jim's face pasted onto a cat looks better than the Cats trailer

    • @ElvenMans
      @ElvenMans 5 років тому +13

      100%

    • @redmoon383
      @redmoon383 5 років тому +18

      I feel like it belongs on r/imsorryjohn

    • @slashingkatie7872
      @slashingkatie7872 5 років тому +17

      Romantic Outlaw I gotta wonder who thought doing the weird live action Cats movie was a good idea. Seriously that had “animated Disney musical” written all over it. Then again Disney just wants to remake shit.

    • @cryptkeeper08
      @cryptkeeper08 5 років тому

      lol comical funny i wonder if they shiver from from that frostburn. will they left with thier tongue stuck out or be clever enough to fix it with a little spit shine.

    • @cyphi474
      @cyphi474 5 років тому

      Less scary.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 5 років тому +310

    "Facebook sure does make a shit-ton of money. Could we produce our own competing service?"
    "We make games though."
    "What's your point?"
    -EA

    • @noahgray543
      @noahgray543 5 років тому +10

      "My point is that we can't do what Facebook does half as well as it does, and frankly sir, we've had multiple years of flops; we dont even make games that well. Plus, every other company is doing the same thing and so there is so much competition we will almost certainly have more flops."
      Android Wilson: "you're fired."

    • @crimsonlanceman7882
      @crimsonlanceman7882 5 років тому +2

      If only we could monetarily OWN THE HUMANITY AND EVERYTHING IT HAS EVER POSSESSED.

  • @OnlyRoke
    @OnlyRoke 5 років тому +94

    Gaming Industry says: "Gaming is social! It's what humans need! That's why we provide it!"
    Gaming Industry means: "A social environment creates peer pressure and the need to impress others, because a social hierarchy exists now. We can monetize that pressure"

    • @c1v1lwar24
      @c1v1lwar24 5 років тому +6

      Spot on mate 👍

    • @emceeunderdogrising
      @emceeunderdogrising 5 років тому

      It's exactly what they are doing.

    • @talynhastime9343
      @talynhastime9343 5 років тому +1

      When people say gaming is social, they mean it's fun to play co-op with a sibling or make a new friend while getting help to run a dungeon or a community-created map. If the "social" part of playing video games is simply to keep up with the Joneses and have my character tricked out with all the pricey mounts and armor and whatnot, then I'd rather not play OR I won't spend money. I don't think I'm speaking out of turn when I say a great part of the appeal of video games, in theory, is that we can escape that sort of shit by being almost guaranteed a reward of some sort for our dedication and personal skills. The way it should be is that we pop into a lobby, look at someone's decked-out armor and mount and say "Wow, this person put a lot of time into this game, and look how far they've gotten. One day that could be me, if I try my best" or "Wow, that person is lucky as fuck with the RNG". Instead my reaction is "Fucking P2Ws ruin everything".

  • @cg-rf7lo
    @cg-rf7lo 5 років тому +215

    "Let's reach out to the whales and super whales to help us!"
    - AAA Games Industry, and also Aquaman

  • @connordarvall8482
    @connordarvall8482 5 років тому +290

    "Now with our new social networking systems, we can replace those 5 or 6 old, well-established, friends with 50-60 newer, shallower, friendships."

    • @Esuerc
      @Esuerc 4 роки тому

      @@lilylopnco As someone who runs a Discord server with 120+ members, and see the same 5 all the time, I totally get it.
      Sadly.

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 4 роки тому +3

      As someone who's close friends have all left him and desperately uses discord servers to fill the void........ I don't get it.

  • @chrisxd146
    @chrisxd146 5 років тому +694

    I think I'll stick to older single player games and supporting the modding community still around them.

    • @BriarLeaf00
      @BriarLeaf00 5 років тому +20

      @Vorname Nachname Sad but true. Luckily one of the only good things from the coming massive recession/depression around 2020 is a lot to most of these companies will go belly up. Not much of a consolation considering another across the board decrease in quality of life for most of us like the last time, but hey, its something I guess.

    • @EspectroUrbano
      @EspectroUrbano 5 років тому +13

      Don't forget the Indies!

    • @CraftyArts
      @CraftyArts 5 років тому +7

      Right I have such a back catelog the only games I buy new are the single player games often times the quirky indie titles, ones like sinking city and hell blade just in a effort to support such ideas.

    • @belldrop7365
      @belldrop7365 5 років тому +11

      Don't really have to stick to "older" games. There are still newer games out there that sticks up to day one dlc standards only(because god forbid a game that doesn't have a day one dlcs nowadays, early access indie games included.)
      EDF5 on steam is one good example. Just cause I'm addicted to it for a week now...

    • @ImAlpharius
      @ImAlpharius 5 років тому +4

      Yakuza series!

  • @LEWIS1992
    @LEWIS1992 5 років тому +403

    If they want to give players "choice", why not just include cheat codes, or an option for infinite items?
    It makes their microtransaction argument dead in the water.

    • @nickclark1815
      @nickclark1815 5 років тому +58

      That's how it was before, but the industry learned you can make money off of people's impatience.

    • @nobodyinparticular9640
      @nobodyinparticular9640 5 років тому +34

      @@nickclark1815 would say justified impatience.
      I mean
      If the game is made super grindy AF and with timers that go over 24 hours...
      Am not saying paying to skip them is good tho.
      That crap shouldn't be there in the first place.

    • @MagicDragonesk
      @MagicDragonesk 5 років тому +4

      They're gonna make cheat codes paid DLC (or already have if you count P2W games)

    • @ferdinandavila-soto7233
      @ferdinandavila-soto7233 5 років тому +5

      ​@@MagicDragonesk Funny you'd mention that. Dead Rising: OTR actually had honest-to-goodness cheat codes as paid DLC way back in 2011. Fred Dutton of Eurogamer pointed this out, and even Jim Sterling made an old video about it. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-09-capcom-sells-dead-rising-otr-cheats-as-dlc

  • @marcinpomidor1226
    @marcinpomidor1226 5 років тому +233

    95% of games I've ever played and WILL play is single player. I pay for the game. period. No preorders. No seasson passes. No m$

    • @nowonmetube
      @nowonmetube 5 років тому +4

      And I thought I was one special kind on that 😂

    • @Craxin01
      @Craxin01 5 років тому +21

      I only play a few games that have multiplayer options. And even then, rarely do I engage in playing with others. Maybe a co-op shooter like the Borderlands franchise or building a community in Minecraft. The rest, if it doesn't have a robust and quality single-player experience with an engaging story and fun gameplay, I won't spend one thin penny for it. And microtransactions? We used to call that Nickel and Diming someone, IE, greedy bastards finding ever more excuses to take money they didn't earn.

    • @augustwest5356
      @augustwest5356 5 років тому +3

      I'm with you 100% man.

    • @gum8191
      @gum8191 5 років тому +1

      100% for me.

    • @Commanderd2007
      @Commanderd2007 4 роки тому

      This is why I’m still annoyed that to play Diablo 3 I have to be logged on constantly. I loved Diablo 1 and 2! Let me play single player! In the meantime I’m just gonna play Skyrim or Sragon Age Origins for the 4000th time...

  • @joekerr6212
    @joekerr6212 5 років тому +733

    I just want to say.
    The whaling industry exploited its source of income until near (and in some cases, complete) extinction.
    Just sayin'.

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому +87

      Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I rarely buy AAA games anymore.

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 5 років тому +35

      That's what the golden parachutes are there for: When the whaling airship sinks.

    • @markcobuzzi826
      @markcobuzzi826 5 років тому +45

      Not to mention, the famous Megalodon reached such a Goliath size, by turning to large baleen whales as its primary food supply. Yet ironically, it is believed that Megalodon went extinct because it simply became too massive and specialized for its own good. It apparently began to starve itself out of existence, once sudden climate change and continental drift drastically decreased the amount of large blubbery whales available for it to hunt.
      Coincidentally, the mobile market and TRIPELAAAY industry attained unsustainable growth and have raked in billions of dollars, by almost exclusively targeting “whales” with their predatory microtransactions. Now it is almost a continuous struggle just to keep earning more money for investors and shareholders, and governments around the world are finally starting to catch on to these microtransactions as we have. If loot boxes and pay-to-win mechanics get banned, and these companies suddenly cannot ensnare “whales” nearly as much, then their golden goose will be removed. Hence they are doing everything they can to prevent the “legal climate” from changing. The one key difference is that these “Megalodons” are creatures that I wouldn’t mind seeing go extinct.

    • @tenyokensekia8088
      @tenyokensekia8088 5 років тому +25

      @@markcobuzzi826 Sharks are my number one fear in the world next to the ocean, but even I feel sorry for the Poor Megalodon. AAA industry though? They can go extinct for all I care. They are horrible people.

    • @markcobuzzi826
      @markcobuzzi826 5 років тому +6

      @Tenyoken Sekia
      Yup. Amen to that and thank God for Jim.

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 5 років тому +461

    Social interaction isn't a bad thing when it's genuine, but the kind of interaction promoted by social media and, all too often, games as well is shallow and meaningless.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight 5 років тому +64

      Exactly. They don't want you to make friends or have a good time with other people. They want you to look at the "Epic Gear" that the other guy is wearing with envy so that you'll spend money to keep up with the Joneses. A kind of social interaction that is only detrimental and toxic.

    • @zmdumpbox2340
      @zmdumpbox2340 5 років тому +29

      You are but a means of acquiring social capital. The interaction is transactional by nature. You're just a number. Capitalism, baby!

    • @youwhatmadeidk
      @youwhatmadeidk 5 років тому +4

      Yeah I like social interaction in old games like GTA IV and MW2.

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 5 років тому +15

      Yeah it isn't about interacting with people, that is what I was doing with games like SOCOM on my PS2 and the early Xbox Live games. Now a days it's all about getting harassed by random strangers who never speak a word to you so you feel a need to buy the stuff they harassed you with.

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 5 років тому +10

      I don't want social interactions in my video games. I get all my social interactions at work, thanks very much. I don't do twatter, skullfuck or anything like that. I hate multiplayer games because people are twats. I want a solid single player core game with occasional coop . Multiplayer should always be side dish, not the main course.

  • @zake64
    @zake64 5 років тому +119

    When I sit down on my couch to play a game after a long day at work, the LAST thing I want to do is interact with MORE people.

    • @nathaniliescu4597
      @nathaniliescu4597 5 років тому

      You don't work you neckbeard.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 4 роки тому +5

      Hell, im moving out primarily so i can have MORE privacy and solitude.

    • @zake64
      @zake64 4 роки тому +7

      Nathan Iliescu lmao what? Go be a toxic troll somewhere else

    • @ty_sylicus
      @ty_sylicus 4 роки тому

      Amen

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 4 роки тому +2

      ohh i can appreciate a coop game with a friend or collegue... but when a game forces me to interact with total strangers or spam my facebook friends with stupid "come play this crappy game with me" pop ups in order to progress through the game yeah...that ticks me of. but mehh sometimes i check them out but i am really surprised that people actually spend so much money in those cheap crappy farmville games XD and this is coming from someone who is really impatient when playing a game ^_^ but i would never even consider wasting real cash on those cheap shitty mobile games...

  • @StarDruid
    @StarDruid 5 років тому +433

    If I wanted social interaction I'd step out my door more and play that crappy perma death mmo called life.

    • @murrfeeling
      @murrfeeling 5 років тому +25

      You just don't like it cause you didn't GIT GUD!

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 5 років тому +5

      Like, please, just let me play ;-;

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 5 років тому +17

      @Drexel Petrone Have you tried the Communism DLC? Everything is FREE there :D

    • @themagalanium9491
      @themagalanium9491 5 років тому +23

      @@belisarius6949 yeah I tried downloading it but it just doesn't work

    • @Arizonitan
      @Arizonitan 5 років тому +9

      Drexel Petrone the game mostly sucks because there's no replay value. I mean you can't even return to your character once the game is done

  • @Eddyforshort
    @Eddyforshort 5 років тому +245

    I object to Wall-E being included. He's got more personality then every AAA exec combined.

    • @darthlazurus4382
      @darthlazurus4382 5 років тому +43

      Personality AND ethics!

    • @StephySon
      @StephySon 5 років тому +36

      And a heart

    • @tracytron7162
      @tracytron7162 5 років тому +13

      A. Freeman And R2D2

    • @talesfromthenuzlocke1619
      @talesfromthenuzlocke1619 5 років тому +8

      I’d prefer Ultron to Andrew Wilson. Not only did he have personality, he didn’t consume and trick people into joining forces with him and then killing and eating them.
      Unicronic arts....

    • @nowonmetube
      @nowonmetube 5 років тому +5

      Don't forget Johnny Number 5 and ED-209

  • @commander_swift3765
    @commander_swift3765 5 років тому +122

    Yes Android Wilson, Social Networking in video games is so important! That must be why some of the biggest games this year have been single-player games.

  • @TehTechnoMiser
    @TehTechnoMiser 5 років тому +34

    I like how Robo-Wilson doesn't say how players "keep playing the game with friends", it's "consume the content together". Maybe Andrew's one of those Aliens from They Live.

    • @Formalec
      @Formalec 5 років тому +5

      Wilson has such a awkward why to express himself

  • @thebiglich
    @thebiglich 5 років тому +427

    People who like human interaction dont play online games because online gaming is toxic af

    • @caliggyjack7480
      @caliggyjack7480 5 років тому +18

      People who like human interaction don't play Video Games in general.

    • @nicknevco215
      @nicknevco215 5 років тому +5

      or gamers ask/beg to be able to mute everyone.

    • @xFirebird925x
      @xFirebird925x 5 років тому

      This is the truth.

    • @beskamir5977
      @beskamir5977 5 років тому +10

      Good point, if you like human interaction then playing online games is a good way of making you hate human interaction.

    • @grayaj23
      @grayaj23 5 років тому

      @Hardcore Gamer This is why Barrens Chat was ahead of its time in pre-battlegrounds WOW. We hated everyone equally no matter if they were (/channel R Lee Ermey's torrent of slurs here). Well, everyone who wasn't Horde (but also Horde too because we knew we were worse than everyone else combined).

  • @Iksbrown
    @Iksbrown 5 років тому +63

    Oh sure people want social interaction in games, which is why The Witcher 3, an offline single-player game, has been among the top-selling games on Steam for 4 years in a row.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 4 роки тому +1

      my thoughts exactly XD and how did God of War even become such a widely recognized masterpiece by both critics AND gamers alike?... there isn't even online multiplayer or loot boxes ermmm "surprise mechanics" in there -.-

    • @Kairos_Akuma
      @Kairos_Akuma 3 роки тому

      And Sims3 is STILL laughed at for their Social Plattform 😂

  • @JBHUTT09
    @JBHUTT09 5 років тому +590

    Them: "People want social games!"
    Me: *looks at Sekiro (100% offline single player game) sales and Steam stats*

    • @IAmAnEvilTaco
      @IAmAnEvilTaco 5 років тому +16

      But if people don’t want social games, why do we hate the epic store for having weak social features in games, while having exclusives? If the social functionality doesn’t matter, why does it matter which launcher you use?
      Because most of the beef I have seen against epic store was that it lacked the very features everyone here’s saying they don’t need. Wasn’t that also the beef with the Bethesda launcher?

    • @Farscryer0
      @Farscryer0 5 років тому +33

      Might work better with God of War (2018) instead of Sekiro, tbh

    • @JBHUTT09
      @JBHUTT09 5 років тому +8

      @@Farscryer0 True. I went with Sekiro because I'm currently playing it and it popped into my mind immediately.

    • @ubiquitouspanda4466
      @ubiquitouspanda4466 5 років тому +47

      @@IAmAnEvilTaco it wasn't just the weak social features, it was an amalgamation of bad publicity, making games exclusive to the epic store, and utter disregard for the people they claim to care about
      Also, why did you shoehorn epic in this episode?

    • @Hisu0
      @Hisu0 5 років тому +50

      @@IAmAnEvilTaco
      First, people do want social games - but only in addition to normal games, not instead of them.
      Second, social features of a marketplace have nothing to do with social gaming.

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow 5 років тому +248

    when they say they want 'social interaction' what they really mean is they want 'peer pressure' to buy their overpriced bollocks on the cash shop and their lootboxes.
    Little billy next door has this really cool skin, you see him walk around in game wearing this really cool skin. this means Little bill is really cool. dont you want to be really cool like Little billy? oh and no one wants to play with a super uncool person like you, you need to be really cool like Little billy. visit the cash shop today!

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому +8

      This reminds me when the cash shop first came out in maple story.

    • @chrisevison4092
      @chrisevison4092 5 років тому +6

      wasn't there a movie about a Billy walking around wearing skin? Wonder if he should have used the "its just cosmetic" excuse when the police showed up

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 5 років тому +4

      Good thing I'm old and antisocial enough to be immune to peer pressure (at least to this kind).

    • @sarahperkins6421
      @sarahperkins6421 5 років тому

      @Greig91 Personally, I like playing dress up in games (I typically spend half of my game time on character customization) and I think that's my crux when it comes to online spending. I'm not there to try and impress anyone if my character happens to have a rare skin. I just want my character to wear whatever I think looks cute, dapper, or funny, regardless of other players' input. If the default skin goes well with something I bought or played to earn as a reward, I'll probably pair them together if that's what I'm feeling that day.
      Paying more respect to people who don't bother with cosmetics seems like a misunderstanding of the reason why some others may bother at all with it, but that's just my -small essay of personal introspection- two cents. I realize of course that there certainly are try hards out there and a lot of gross elitism within these games, but those people generally aren't very fun to play with in my experience.

    • @vash_the_stampede6570
      @vash_the_stampede6570 5 років тому

      Honestly,Why do these 30-45 Dudes want? They will totally Rob the dead if they had cash on them.
      BUT THERE JUST STEALING MONEY AND THEN SPENDING IT TO MAKE MORE MONEY STEALING SCHEMES!
      LIKE WHAT THE FUCK! SPEND IT ON A CAR! OR A HOUSE! YOU FUCKING IDOTS! THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE MONEY!

  • @onomatopoeia7505
    @onomatopoeia7505 5 років тому +125

    My standard routine when playing ANY game with social options: turn off chat, turn off voice chat.

    • @bloodling3885
      @bloodling3885 5 років тому +11

      One day they will have it where you have to pay $50 a month just to keep them off because that would ruin the "fun" of the game.

    • @freelanceart1019
      @freelanceart1019 5 років тому +4

      @@bloodling3885 or selling you $99 for the ability to CREATE YOUR OWN E-PRIVATE servers.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 4 роки тому +3

      and then the game will force you to "socially interact" which is in reality "spam your other friends with annoying messages in the hope they can hook people with addiction issues and turn them into piggy banks" in order to even get ahead in the game instead of being stuck on your small starting area with crappy useless shit

  • @smjaiteh
    @smjaiteh 5 років тому +500

    Nothing makes a game less fun than being forced to talk to strangers.
    Edit: Keyword: “forced”

    • @Voxavs
      @Voxavs 5 років тому +4

      World of Warcraft would disagree

    • @OkamiZone
      @OkamiZone 5 років тому +3

      Speak for yourself, random UA-cam commenter.

    • @gregstinkston7634
      @gregstinkston7634 5 років тому +3

      Modern Warfare 2 search and destroy was fuckin funny as hell back in the day
      very racist though so y'know... oops

    • @mcbadrobotvoice8155
      @mcbadrobotvoice8155 5 років тому +2

      Unless its toon town. But that game was shut down so bad example.

    • @SidereusOfTheFallen
      @SidereusOfTheFallen 5 років тому +2

      Let me tell you.
      Overwatch reddit: "If you're doing solo queue you're just asking to be paired with crappy players, you have to go with a 6-man team, the game was engineered for that."
      An online competitive FPS with a matchamaking based on a complicated (albeit very crappy in the result) algorithm that should measure skill and pair people based on that.
      Because fuck yeah, I *NEED* friends that play the same game to enjoy said game.
      Of course.

  • @Hippic
    @Hippic 5 років тому +447

    Showing WALL-E when you talked about Android Wilson is not right, because he actually has a personality!! 😄

    • @bobmonkey420
      @bobmonkey420 5 років тому +23

      Hippic at least daleks will just kill us with lasers , better than being nickled and dimed to death over years

    • @aestheticmirror9257
      @aestheticmirror9257 5 років тому +6

      And a heart

    • @Gojiragon
      @Gojiragon 5 років тому

      And is adorable.

    • @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.
      @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. 5 років тому +3

      Even R2D2 has more personality than him, and he's a comedic relief that can't speak.

    • @mutantfreak48
      @mutantfreak48 5 років тому +1

      Android Wilson also has a personality though - sleazy prick.

  • @gxgear
    @gxgear 5 років тому +36

    My skin crawls every time clips of that seminar is shown.

    • @UniversalJuan
      @UniversalJuan 4 роки тому +5

      I can't even listen to them anymore when I come back and watch/listen to any eps with them in them. I end up getting so furious not just at the presenter, but that no one in the audience isn't getting up and just screaming out how horrible it is

  • @ronaldderosa
    @ronaldderosa 5 років тому +105

    "As we all know, EA CEO Android Wilson needs Tungsten to live." Lost it at that.

    • @heno02
      @heno02 5 років тому +1

      He had me in tears from the moment he started narrating the interview in that robotic voice and once Dalek started to creep out from the corner I had to put my laptop away in order to gasp for air.
      Andrew Wilson also reminds me of Patrick Bateman. But this is just as gold.

  • @kamulecPL12
    @kamulecPL12 5 років тому +176

    If we have Super Whale, we need a BatWhale to fight him.
    BatWhale v Super Whale: Dawn of Suprise Mechanics

    • @Marioshrooms
      @Marioshrooms 5 років тому +6

      kamulecPL12 Sounds like a future Jimquisition at the rate things are going.

    • @grantmiller7257
      @grantmiller7257 5 років тому +1

      MARTHAAAA!!!!

    • @ArchangelSteve
      @ArchangelSteve 5 років тому +4

      "Dawn of Just Cosmetic"

  • @marti5420
    @marti5420 5 років тому +26

    1999 - I need this now, i want this now, i must find a cheat
    2019 - i need this now, i want this now, I must pay for microtransactions

  • @jytyp
    @jytyp 5 років тому +591

    Therapist: Cat with Jim's face isn't real, he can't hurt you
    Cat with Jim's face: 0:02

    • @doovders
      @doovders 5 років тому +49

      Therapist: Jim Purrling isn't real, he can't hurt you
      @0:02

    • @acathosh
      @acathosh 5 років тому +1

      Why is your profile pic different in the comment section and on your page D:

    • @Haan22
      @Haan22 5 років тому +6

      *Confused screeching intensifies*

    • @KiomonDuck
      @KiomonDuck 5 років тому

      0:02 is my phone wallpaper now.

    • @TheTherapistGamer
      @TheTherapistGamer 5 років тому

      That cat IS real and WILL hurt you.

  • @Bensaw11
    @Bensaw11 5 років тому +182

    Man, do I miss the GC, Xbox, PS2 days. When the primary purpose of a game was an escape, and $60 got you a complete experience.

    • @johnnypatterson7512
      @johnnypatterson7512 5 років тому +29

      Well if dumbass people would stop buying into this current day shit we could go back to those times.

    • @RemixedVoice
      @RemixedVoice 5 років тому +18

      @@johnnypatterson7512 That will never happen. People are way too engaged with mobile and casual gaming for corporations to ever go back from the revenues that they create now.

    • @thegamegarage69
      @thegamegarage69 5 років тому +19

      those days were so long ago that you forgot that games were only 49.99$ , until the 360/ps3 when they all went up to 60. not only did you get the whole experience, but it was also cheaper, and ps2/3 online was free like pc

    • @RenegadeVile
      @RenegadeVile 5 років тому +4

      @@thegamegarage69 For PS2 you did have to buy an add-on for internet but I suppose that's not really anyone's fault. The PS2 had just not been desogned with online multiplayer in mind.

    • @juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876
      @juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 5 років тому +3

      Emulators 4 the win

  • @christopherchamberlain8414
    @christopherchamberlain8414 5 років тому +29

    “How do whales find your game?” Echolocation, presumably

  • @scottpolk8000
    @scottpolk8000 5 років тому +125

    Ironically, I believe, the term whale for big spenders comes from the gambling industry. If the game industry starts "comping" whales with small perks like the equivalent of hotel rooms like the casinos do, we know how closely they are learning from that industry.

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 5 років тому +17

      Yeah whale is a classic term for a big spender at a casino.

    • @fallwitch
      @fallwitch 5 років тому +10

      They do. Every game keeps track of their whales accounts. If a whale sends an issue to technical support they will get a good outcome even if the issue at hand (like a technical problem) can't be fixed they will usually get comped either in game currency or items from the in game stores.

    • @doomyboi
      @doomyboi 5 років тому +4

      MMOs will actually do this.

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому +3

      I think it was used ironically by gaming communities in the beginning.

    • @labetenoire
      @labetenoire 5 років тому +2

      Free to play games do stuff like this a lot. Like if you used to spend but stopped, they will notice this and everyone over you a "free gift" or a one time only discount.
      Not to mention the games start free from the beginning which is the same as when a casino gives you a few chips for attending a show or something.

  • @thebreakfastmegapowers
    @thebreakfastmegapowers 5 років тому +313

    Wow you got the famous internet feline JIM PURRLING??

    • @seanomatopoeia
      @seanomatopoeia 5 років тому +5

      Damn you beat me to it

    • @JimSterling
      @JimSterling  5 років тому +25

      This is top tier.

    • @christraven
      @christraven 5 років тому

      I smell a new wrestling gimmick for when SterDust gets retired...

  • @nickclark1815
    @nickclark1815 5 років тому +55

    Unless it's with the bois, I play video games, to NOT interact with people, even if I'm playing with other people, I usually don't get involved in the social aspect.

  • @DamnedSilly
    @DamnedSilly 5 років тому +56

    Referring to big spenders as 'Whales' was used by casinos for decades before the video game industry picked it up.

    • @assassinxex
      @assassinxex 5 років тому +13

      Almost like, like, they are gambling

    • @QuantumParticle
      @QuantumParticle 5 років тому +1

      @@assassinxex No, it's sUrPrIsE mEcHaNiCs

  • @ShinForgotPassxXx
    @ShinForgotPassxXx 5 років тому +116

    Your videos about microtransations/lootboxes should become a lecture at school. Young generations and people need to get informed in general about this. I even dare to say that you should get an education award for your work in this matter.
    One cannot stress enough how important your work is and I am sure that you helped out many people with raising the general awareness about this topic!!! Thank you.

    • @pyrenviii3053
      @pyrenviii3053 5 років тому +4

      Yeah! I didn't realise how serious this whole thing has been until I watched one of his videos on the matter

    • @samerm8657
      @samerm8657 5 років тому +6

      I know where you're coming from. But lets say that kiddies get to watch some of Jim (fuckin) Sterling (son) in class, and SUDDENLY the pog-fucker shows up... You know the one that fucks pogs 😂 or the Cereal humunculo delivers "pre-milked" cereals 😨

    • @Jack-jb4qd
      @Jack-jb4qd 5 років тому +2

      They should probably teach kids how to cook, clean, pay bills and manage emotions too. All sorts of crap you need to know doesn't get taught at school when you really think about it.

  • @ryancampbell2067
    @ryancampbell2067 5 років тому +114

    Wow how to exploit addictive personalities hmm that sounds like a casino. At least with a casino they give you a nice room and special treatment what does a game give you? Digital currency?

    • @Raikeran
      @Raikeran 5 років тому +13

      not digital currency, a *CHANCE* at digital currency if you pay enough real currency!

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 5 років тому +3

      a nylon bag

    • @Kairos_Akuma
      @Kairos_Akuma 3 роки тому

      @@technopoptart and a moldy helmet.

  • @pontifexcellence6648
    @pontifexcellence6648 5 років тому +309

    Wouldn't it be great to pay some money, and gain a product? Like, a complete, functioning, enjoyable product to spend my time and money on?

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому +22

      That's the craziest thing i've ever heard.

    • @chaossmith3864
      @chaossmith3864 5 років тому +23

      Believe it or not...
      It used to be like that! lol

    • @daemonisedone4256
      @daemonisedone4256 5 років тому +9

      Back in the good old days.

    • @fatcat1250
      @fatcat1250 5 років тому +19

      _"enjoyable product to spend my time and _*_money_*_ on?
      "_
      You've been conditioned far worse than you think you are.

    • @Sir_Uncle_Ned
      @Sir_Uncle_Ned 5 років тому +13

      Or, better yet, a complete, functioning, enjoyable product that never needs updates and that you can just shove into a slot and play.

  • @utisti4976
    @utisti4976 5 років тому +348

    Offline singleplayer games are king and will always be king.

    • @Diphenhydra
      @Diphenhydra 5 років тому +3

      ΛutistiЄ yeah... but playing uno with your friends is a hell of a good time, sooooo.

    • @davidking6242
      @davidking6242 5 років тому +19

      Coach co-op is the crown prince then

    • @MrOrdosan
      @MrOrdosan 5 років тому +15

      "singleplayer games are dying" said the company taht only sees total money gained and not total games sold.

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 5 років тому +15

      Started playing skyrim for the first time last month. I’m happy offline.

    • @utisti4976
      @utisti4976 5 років тому +2

      @@davidking6242
      That's exactly right. :P

  • @hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270
    @hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270 5 років тому +66

    Also Darlek Wilson: Socialize. SOCIALIZE. SO-CIA-LIZE!

  • @madhigh-cactus5320
    @madhigh-cactus5320 5 років тому +118

    I honestly hate Facebook and Twitter. That's why I always loved video games... because video games are NOT Facebook or Twitter
    Edit: Or Snapchat, or Instagram, or Tik Tok, or whatever else is social media.

    • @HelloChief117
      @HelloChief117 5 років тому +8

      I've never actively used any of these social media and I never plan to. Mostly because I couldn't care less about social drama and all that crap.

    • @swinelias
      @swinelias 5 років тому

      I never used any of the applications mentioned except Facebook. I just use it for homework from my high school.

    • @rm9308
      @rm9308 5 років тому +4

      @@always_serpico
      I actively try to get away from UA-cam. One day I will succeed. I hate-love it and I don't want any more, but every time I need to learn something I end up on a tutorial video and that little red number on the bell grabs me by the eyeballs again...

    • @skyeplus
      @skyeplus 5 років тому

      I mostly use facebook for authorization on various web sites and not for social interaction.

    • @rm9308
      @rm9308 5 років тому +1

      @@skyeplus
      Facebook sells everyone who uses cookies, even those who don't have explicit Facebook accounts. They scrape everyone's information from other sites without consent and assign everyone an advertising ID. Zuccy is fucky.

  • @jenbdiamond
    @jenbdiamond 5 років тому +54

    I've abandoned games that required a certain number of "friends" in order to advance. Aviator was fun until they changed it to require a certain number of fellow players.

    • @Nulthazor
      @Nulthazor 5 років тому +9

      jenbdiamond
      So it’s an MLM basically

  • @TheOneTrueStAN
    @TheOneTrueStAN 5 років тому +27

    Jim, please always take care of your health my man. Nobody can really fill your shoes, and we just need someone relentlessly fighting back against this industry bullshit.
    Keep doing what you do, Jim.

  • @eugenebebs7767
    @eugenebebs7767 5 років тому +57

    If I want SoCiAl EnGaGeMeNt, I would rather play with people I know, and play something more intimate like a co-op campaign, not go out and scream with randoms who's momma is bigger.

  • @phoofnscoops6778
    @phoofnscoops6778 5 років тому +104

    As someone with social anxiety, this dynamic the gaming industry is taking really really blows. I find myself playing older games that don't have some forced DRM or online only horseshit

    • @andybeans5790
      @andybeans5790 5 років тому +10

      Yup, I'm HFA and I've more or less given up on my PS4 because virtually all the games around demand social interactivity. Perversely, I find myself playing Warframe because it never demands interaction but rewards playing publicly. I get a little buzz out of helping strangers out, even if talking to them is difficult.

    • @samerm8657
      @samerm8657 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, I also reccomend good indie & early access games. The ones with caring devs and live community are very good, Rising world for exampel

    • @MetalheadSean666
      @MetalheadSean666 5 років тому +2

      Same boat mate, I think I’ve played maybe 3 recent games I’ve mostly been playing ps2 era games recently and boy do I miss not having micro transactions shoved in my face every couple of minutes

    • @TheToastedBiscuit
      @TheToastedBiscuit 5 років тому +5

      As much as I've been following the dumpster fire that is the AAA industry, I haven't seen any of this b.s. first hand 'cause I've moved over to indy or "AA" style games that are largely unaffected.
      There's tons of games coming out this year and the next that aren't out for your wallet, unfortunately it takes a little digging to find some good ones that appeal to your tastes.

    • @AlphaladZXA
      @AlphaladZXA 5 років тому

      @@samerm8657 it's what I do I love my switch for the indies I can play anywhere

  • @DavideFilippone
    @DavideFilippone 5 років тому +10

    "[...]the biggest mistake humanity ever made was getting to know itself better!" - Jim Sterling, 2019

  • @gator0072
    @gator0072 5 років тому +57

    "The biggest mistake humanity has made is getting to know itself better"
    Jim Sterling
    XD

    • @akaimizu1
      @akaimizu1 5 років тому +2

      gator007 seriously. He could come
      Up with book worthy quotes like this. This HAS to be in a movie.

    • @PLKinka
      @PLKinka 5 років тому +2

      Reminded me about
      "People as things, that’s where it starts.”
      “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes . . .”
      “But they starts with thinking about people as things . . . ” from Carpe Jugulum

    • @KoffinKat
      @KoffinKat 5 років тому +1

      @ gator007 So true, though! We humans are nowhere near as advanced as we think we are. And some things, we just straight up make worse by our constant meddling.

  • @Crowald
    @Crowald 5 років тому +83

    "Super Whales"
    >Gang Orca
    I love this channel.

  • @Athawolfus
    @Athawolfus 5 років тому +21

    "Consume the content" - why is entertainment/gaming jargon so terribly horrifying?

  • @ManiManiPlays
    @ManiManiPlays 5 років тому +70

    Oh, they don't call their players "Cattle" because the grocery industry already coined that term for it's employees.

    • @crackingbreznuts3343
      @crackingbreznuts3343 5 років тому

      Dude where do you work, I love my store. I mean Vons hasn't treat me that badly. I mean 8 hour shifts do kill your legs and I'd like 15 minute breaks rather than 10 but at least they're still paid.

    • @ManiManiPlays
      @ManiManiPlays 5 років тому +2

      @@crackingbreznuts3343 Oh, I work at an independent chain that runs throughout Alberta. They refer to employees nipping off of shrinkage as "grazing", among other things.

  • @AnimatedStoriesWorldwide
    @AnimatedStoriesWorldwide 5 років тому +37

    "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying"...
    "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying"...
    "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying" "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying" "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying" "The Socially acceptable way of behaving in your game, should be paying"

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 4 роки тому

      thank god ill never develop games for free to play gacha.

  • @gundamforreal
    @gundamforreal 5 років тому +58

    6:38 "What makes them thick?"
    That Freudian slip tells you all you need to know about what these people think of gamers.

  • @Gapeagle
    @Gapeagle 5 років тому +109

    Mother: "You need to get out and meet people instead of saying inside playing video games all day!"
    Kid: "BUUUUTTT MOOOOOMM! This is me going out and meeting people!"

    • @1krani
      @1krani 5 років тому

      "I _AM_ socializing, R-tard! I'm logged on to an MMORPG and earning XP with my party using Teamspeak!"
      Randy: "...Uh'm not an R-tard..."

  • @akaimizu1
    @akaimizu1 5 років тому +85

    “I grow weary of this impudent push for social multiplayer gaming!” - Kratos (Game of the year winner, 2018)

  • @ryna1981
    @ryna1981 5 років тому +24

    The robot segment had me trying to muffle my giggles at the office. Cheers to the Dalek cameo HAHAHA

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 5 років тому +2

      Honestly, I think these CEOs have more in common with the bloody pepper-pots than most humans.

  • @michaellaverty7349
    @michaellaverty7349 5 років тому +29

    "Hey why don't we make a video game and sell it to people?"
    - The Ghost of AAA past

  • @RocketMagnetUK
    @RocketMagnetUK 5 років тому +173

    Because P2W is getting so much backlash they need to target the Social Gamer to whom cosmetics are the psychological manipulation lever.

    • @etaknar
      @etaknar 5 років тому +8

      Too bad Warframe already exists and is controlled by a small tight band of developers rather than a huge mega Corp. . . Never mind, that is actually f-ing great.

    • @TheRitva26
      @TheRitva26 5 років тому

      Warframe is P2W

    • @TheRitva26
      @TheRitva26 5 років тому

      @@devaunbeats you win in warframe by getting friends to grind loot with. you get friends by impressing people woth your character's appearance. to do that you need fancy skins. you can buy these skins. case closed

    • @retrofraction
      @retrofraction 5 років тому +1

      devaunbeats You knows Warframe has a new frame every 3 months at an $80, $50, $20 package.
      Sure you can do it all Free, but to keep up with the Jones it’s gonna take cash and crazy amounts of hours to get all the research completed.

    • @patlefofort
      @patlefofort 5 років тому

      Basically the normies that care more about their social status than games.

  • @truthfulheretic
    @truthfulheretic 5 років тому +13

    Jim. This really shook me. I never realized the FB games which I played and showed my progress were designed around this concept. Thank you!

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 5 років тому +36

    EA: I struggle with the concept that we're a bunch of bad guys, and called nasty things.
    The Effing Public: Then stop treating us like animals who are there to be basically butchered!
    On a more serious note: When I was growing up I learned that killing whales and dolphins was bad and that these animals need to be protected and preserved. That those who targeted whales and dolphins were the most heinous of people and were in the same category as people who poach tigers, elephants, and gorillas.
    Yet to these people, treating humans (to some the highest order of most sacred life) as dolphins and whales (something also held as sacrosanct) and then both these things are ripe for exploitation?
    How much more dehumanizing can a company get?

  • @lemming9984
    @lemming9984 5 років тому +65

    The contempt that this guy Jorgen actually has for gamers is breathtaking - calling us whales. He thinks we are like the humans in The Matrix to be milked for anything they can get.

    • @ZakTheFallen
      @ZakTheFallen 5 років тому +14

      Really it's the gambling industry that came up with the term, for players with lots of cash and are easily addicted to games. They've been milking their players for far longer, and now the gaming industry is using the same tactics. Yes, it's extremely offensive and de-humanizing...and honestly, that's the point of it. They don't want to feel like their customers are people, they want to remain distant and only look at the ridiculous profits that flow in.

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 5 років тому +3

      And sadly, he's right. Sure, most people playing these games can resist (and even more people can just not play them in the first place), but they're going after the most vulnerable.

    • @Earthstar_Review
      @Earthstar_Review 5 років тому +2

      Look at his body language. It's so disturbing.

    • @cloudyskiesnow
      @cloudyskiesnow 5 років тому

      Do these scumbags not realize that they're being filmed, or that archived video is a thing?

  • @TheMichigami
    @TheMichigami 5 років тому +1

    I regret to inform you dearest sir that "arena" is not actually in Pittsburgh, that's in DUNBAR, slightly over an hour SOUTH of Pittsburgh, and is in reality the sad remains of the closed-down movie theater in a mall I spent far FAR too many years roaming around and shopping in back before it became a glorified flea market in more recent years.
    Fortunately, you will also apparently be in town in time for the last day of the Fayette County Fair, the fairgrounds are literally right down the road at the next intersection of the highway from the mall, so there's that to enjoy while you're there. (PS- the address of the mall may say Lemont Furnace, but that is indeed all part of DUNBAR, a town you will likely never see because it's over the hill beyond the fairgrounds in a little river valley and looks a bit like one of the towns in Fallout76, but nicer.)
    I wish you a safe journey and may you enjoy your adventure to the mountains of southwestern PA.

  • @PugandOwn
    @PugandOwn 5 років тому +77

    I've interacted with too many self-identified "gamers" to EVER want to interact with a fellow human in a video game

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 5 років тому +14

      Same. There is a reason I avoid gaming communities these days.

    • @ZeroOmega-vg8nq
      @ZeroOmega-vg8nq 5 років тому +7

      Ditto

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight 5 років тому +3

      Hey.. we're not all bad!
      Though I honestly don't frequent any communities so I couldn't comment on that. How bad is it?

    • @ZeroOmega-vg8nq
      @ZeroOmega-vg8nq 5 років тому

      @@SidheKnight redditors everywhere, everyone thinking they know shit. Lots of furries RPing and then the few good players

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 5 років тому +1

      I find people I deal with IRL to be the absolute worst.
      But then, people online or in games aren't much better.
      I just don't have to deal with them as directly. ;p

  • @Isnogood12
    @Isnogood12 5 років тому +149

    Kids are pressured and bullied to spend money on micropayments because you don't want to look like a "default". It's a huge problem in Elementary Schools over here as well.

    • @verywhite6372
      @verywhite6372 5 років тому +10

      Get a ps2 kids... You'll be happier!

    • @mini-conlongarm8021
      @mini-conlongarm8021 5 років тому +3

      RokushoTheRavager It’s more like the video game equivalent of instant ramen noodles. It’s not that great, yet it will keep you satisfied for a bit, but it’s ultimately bad for you in the long run. This is coming from someone that was curious about Fortnite the day he got a Switch.

    • @jbreitz87
      @jbreitz87 5 років тому +2

      Hey its less money those little shits have to spend on Juuling at least.

    • @RemixedVoice
      @RemixedVoice 5 років тому +22

      @@jbreitz87 1. Kids don't have money, their parents do
      2. Video games can be just as addictive and predatory as nicotine/nicotine industry
      3. I would rather be addicted to nicotine (a stimulant similar to caffeine) than be addicted to Fortnite lmao

    • @ramennoodles5311
      @ramennoodles5311 5 років тому +21

      For real? That's terrible.
      I feel so old, when I was in elementary all I had to worry about when it pertained to video games was if someone had Pokemon Red to see if I could trade someone my Pinsir for their Scyther......

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 5 років тому +27

    I'm against whale hunting, doesn't matter if it's actual whales or troubled people sinking cash into games

  • @nicholasgarrett742
    @nicholasgarrett742 5 років тому +98

    Silly me for playing judgment, a single player offline game, for 200 hours. Apparently I'm supposed to be playing on theses "services"

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому

      Give EA your credit card and all is forgiven.

    • @grayaj23
      @grayaj23 5 років тому +1

      Try Rimworld -- a game that require a 2000-hour obsession for six months before decide the game sucks. (I kid, it's just one of those "That game sucks. And I should know, I've got 2000 hours logged..." experiences.)

  • @ars731
    @ars731 5 років тому +60

    "We are the triple AAA gaming industry collective, Resistance is futile . You will do social interactions:"

    • @roberteden3713
      @roberteden3713 5 років тому +1

      If they do that, I'll find a new hobby.

    • @MediaMunkee
      @MediaMunkee 5 років тому +5

      "Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be sold to the highest bidder."

    • @roberteden3713
      @roberteden3713 5 років тому

      @@Blitzkrieg1605 Truth!!!!!

    • @roberteden3713
      @roberteden3713 5 років тому +1

      Most ppl play games to get away from assholes, not to interact with even bigger ones.

  • @PkGam
    @PkGam 5 років тому +2

    On top of what you mentioned, I sometimes wonder if part of the reasons they are able to dupe people into believing social gaming is the future is that old misconception that gamers are secluded, don't interact with others, don't have friends, etc... and by making social gaming they are trying to nab people who want to prove others wrong. Wouldn't' be the first time companies used existing social misconceptions for social engineering.

  • @brasteen1
    @brasteen1 5 років тому +398

    Sees intro. *PTSD flashbacks to Cats trailer*

    • @branimirstoilov8640
      @branimirstoilov8640 5 років тому +4

      My condolences! (hands over Brain Bleach)

    • @bjaanderson
      @bjaanderson 5 років тому +2

      Let's start a support group. 🤗

    • @cormoran2303
      @cormoran2303 5 років тому +6

      Can't sleep, cat will sing Memory.
      Can't sleep, cat will sing Memory.
      Can't sleep, cat will sing Memory.

    • @ConnorTheUndying
      @ConnorTheUndying 5 років тому

      They'll get us. And it'll look like a bloody accident.

    • @proteus2103
      @proteus2103 5 років тому

      Oh that's what that was... I was confused.

  • @lurkingdaemon3289
    @lurkingdaemon3289 5 років тому +112

    Where does it end?
    Probably with government legislation against such shitty and actually near - if not actually - unlawful business practice.

    • @oneangryboi408
      @oneangryboi408 5 років тому +9

      Ah loot boxes. Don't we just love the encouraging of addiction in trade of money out of greed? Cycle just continues always until the Big Man tells them to stop.

    • @plinyvicgames
      @plinyvicgames 5 років тому +3

      It'll end when game companies get even greedier and pull their bribe money from news outlets and a big stink pops up sending them to the grave along with the rest of the industry.

  • @ViewtifulHound
    @ViewtifulHound 5 років тому +71

    I think, I'm done with Triple A multiplayer anything. This shit is getting waaaaay to out of hand and quite frankly indies have been better in every way lately.

    • @jmlkhan5153
      @jmlkhan5153 5 років тому +12

      Honestly I'm just done with the mainstream entirely. Hasn't been a good anything since 1999. Sometimes I think y2k was real and we're now in some combination of a "Matrix/VALIS" type arrangement. Like, things are so absurd and stupid now that I am honestly questioning reality.

    • @ViewtifulHound
      @ViewtifulHound 5 років тому +8

      Capitalism ruins all good things, games aren’t a vision or a dream that is turned into something special- its a game churned out every year designed to pump as much cash out of its players as possible. Profit above anything else.

    • @jmlkhan5153
      @jmlkhan5153 5 років тому +5

      @@ViewtifulHound I wish I had a solution for human nature. Greed is what ruins everything, not just games. The number of just general 'things' in the world that happen the way they do solely for profit's sake, to the detriment of the majority, makes so furious sometimes I want to slip on a Grendel mask and just go out there trampling.
      It's worse that we all just let it happen. This is our own fault.

    • @silverdragon122
      @silverdragon122 5 років тому +7

      I know what you mean. My mom always wanted me to get her into video games. I didn't because i just didn't want to teach her how to play.
      Now it's because it is actually dangerous and she wouldn't know what to look out for.

    • @Hisu0
      @Hisu0 5 років тому +13

      @@jmlkhan5153
      Well, that's rather extreme. Since 2000 and on, we had Diablo 2, Civilization 3, 5 and 6, Stronghold, Half-Life 2, Tropico 1 and 4, Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2, Morrowind and Skyrim, KotoR 1 and 2, C&C Generals, 3 and RA3, Far Cry, GTA 3, NFS Underground and Most Wanted, Portal 1 and 2, Supreme Commander, Mass Effect and Dragon Age (yeah, 3rd installments of both failed, but the first were awesome), Fallout New Vegas, Borderlands 1 and 2, Bioshock, Saints Row 3, Minecraft, Terraria, Starbound, Stardew Valley, Factorio, Dead Space, Elite: Dangerous, The Witcher series, the new King's Bounty series...
      And that's just the mainstream games. I purposely excluded controversial titles, console exclusives, small-scale-but-immensely-successful indie games like FTL and Binding of Isaac, niche titles such as Crusader Kings 2, Cities: Skylines, Chivalry and Life is Strange, all online games (so an entire MOBA genre). So I'd say there was a LOT of good stuff past y2k, even though I'm a gamer since 1990.

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 5 років тому +106

    Android Wilson. Brilliant.
    Who’s next, Bobby Robotic?

  • @Robocopnik
    @Robocopnik 5 років тому +12

    "The socially accepted way of interacting in your game should be pegging."

  • @propheticrain-maker1486
    @propheticrain-maker1486 5 років тому +42

    I haven't bought a "Live Service" game in years now, and my wallet thanks me for it. Now I can spend my money on developers that deserve it.

    • @riseoftheflutes1739
      @riseoftheflutes1739 5 років тому

      Define live service. Multiplayer games? Or like pay to play games/online only/etc?

    • @propheticrain-maker1486
      @propheticrain-maker1486 5 років тому +5

      @@riseoftheflutes1739 think "Anthem" "Fifa" etc. I play plenty multiplayer games, like Monster Hunter, Smash, SMM2. I try to avoid anything that forces loot boxes, pay2win mechanics etc.

    • @propheticrain-maker1486
      @propheticrain-maker1486 5 років тому +5

      I guess the term is broad, but essentially I avoid games that force feed predatory transactions to me and artificially inflate difficulty and play time .

    • @belldrop7365
      @belldrop7365 5 років тому +2

      @@riseoftheflutes1739 Any game with a price tag but still has micrtransactions.

  • @LostScot
    @LostScot 5 років тому +39

    Also, adding the "demanded" social features is a great way to disguise your DRM.

  • @trenthawkins
    @trenthawkins 5 років тому +13

    Haha! Almost immediately after watching this Jimquisition, I saw a Playstation tweet from yesterday promoting a new "pro-fishing" game, and guess what it had (Other than a hilariously out-of-place adrenaline pumping song for a FISHING GAME)? Added social elements & likely vectors for micro-transactions. It's a fishing game alright, but not for the players, no - this is the devs/publishers fishing for "(super-)whales".
    If it weren't so scummy, I'd almost applaud the meta-ness of it.

  • @turbopumped6490
    @turbopumped6490 5 років тому +142

    If games are so social nowadays,then why arent there more split screen multiplayer?.

    • @keyworksurfer
      @keyworksurfer 5 років тому +41

      You can't monetize split-screen multiplayer

    • @nicksmit2909
      @nicksmit2909 5 років тому +20

      Only need to buy one game for split screen

    • @JamesChessman
      @JamesChessman 5 років тому +2

      apparently online is the only social way nowadays, as opposed to people sitting in the same room together, but yeah, it's way better. we should just be playing Sonic 2 in split-screen, lol.

    • @RenegadeVile
      @RenegadeVile 5 років тому +5

      That's the only multiplayer I've ever played, really.

    • @AzaIndustries
      @AzaIndustries 5 років тому +1

      MP and social focus is DRM, forcing games to use their servers.
      Without offline support they can shovel all there crap down your throat constantly.

  • @Brawler1993
    @Brawler1993 5 років тому +16

    I know Jim's been saying it for years but it's still kind of crazy to hear someone openly describe members of their audience as "whales" so casually.

  • @Wolfrunner326
    @Wolfrunner326 5 років тому +6

    *Pulls up video while not paying attention*
    *Looks up at the strange silence*
    *Sees Jim Sterling as a cat*
    *Slowly backs away*

  • @ricktoconnor
    @ricktoconnor 5 років тому +380

    While Jim was doing the robotic Wilson voice, for some reason I was waiting for him to scream "EXTERMINATE"!!!

    • @originalscreenname44
      @originalscreenname44 5 років тому +34

      His Android Wilson voice is becoming more and more self-aware. It’s only a matter of time.

    • @buscentral900
      @buscentral900 5 років тому +1

      Thanks for letting us know

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 5 років тому +26

      I mean that's clearly intentional given there was a bloody Dalek going across the bottom of the screen...

    • @GreatOldGramps
      @GreatOldGramps 5 років тому +1

      Thank you! I’m not alone 😂

    • @TonySpike
      @TonySpike 5 років тому +15

      Probably because he is quite obviously a dalek

  • @mikeymike1792
    @mikeymike1792 5 років тому +12

    That conference footage will never not make me sick. It's so normal, so mundane, yet so horrifying.

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 4 роки тому +2

    concept of "Escapism" says more about the world we live in now, than anyone would like to admit

  • @DR.LingeringFrey
    @DR.LingeringFrey 5 років тому +41

    Simple...they want MMO game revenue stream and time investment without having to pay for and succeed at making an MMO

    • @sorenkazaren4659
      @sorenkazaren4659 5 років тому +11

      This is my problem with the industry idea of games as a service.
      Look games as a service aren’t bad by default. MMOs are games as a service, and you typically pay a subscription and they continuously provide content.
      Its just companies nowadays want you to pay money consistently, but are scared of the word “subscription” and they want us to give them the money, without providing the content to back up the money.
      They want something for nothing but promises. And gamers are getting fed up and don’t trust the companies anymore. Because they destroyed the trust and then pretend they don’t know why we hate them.

  • @jdzspace33
    @jdzspace33 5 років тому +46

    I love how you keep exposing these guys with these videos showing how developers really see customers. It actually helps me when it comes to the games I will support. I don't buy microtransactions, but I think it's time for me to not by games that think of gamers like this.
    Hopefully more videos like this will bring enough awareness to people/policymakers/consumers to get these things banned once and for all. So gaming can be more about gaming.

    • @youwhatmadeidk
      @youwhatmadeidk 5 років тому +1

      jdzspace33 publishers* not developers

    • @editthemadparts1913
      @editthemadparts1913 5 років тому

      I bought the mercy skin. It’s been literally the only micro transaction I’ve ever purchased in 10 years. But at the end of the day games are products. The problem is there is so much subjectivity in how they can be valued. I could easily buy 100 dollar in lootboxes and not care. But I don’t find any value in gambling digitally where I can’t win actual money. Some people apparently do though. Red dead was worth my hundred dollars. Destiny 2 was as well (keep in mind I never played destiny 1) . Honestly I think it’s just too subjective to expect to have everything. Games should simply be labeled to know what objectively one should expect. If I knew destiny 2 was gonna have an annual pass I probably wouldn’t have got it though. It didn’t say that in the description though. At least I don’t recall it being obvious.

  • @Velduanga
    @Velduanga 5 років тому +7

    "Android Wilson needs Tungsten to live."
    -I understood that reference.

  • @wesolyfoton
    @wesolyfoton 5 років тому +109

    "[fifa] now thanks to in-game gambling needs more parents supervision than doom ever did". Good one, Sir!

  • @Lancetwilight
    @Lancetwilight 5 років тому +81

    What a wonderful way to look at someone who has mental issues, just call them a super whale and exploit them. Let's keep supporting these companies, they clearly care about their customers.
    It should be illegal, and we'd be better off if it was.

    • @alessandrobaggi6129
      @alessandrobaggi6129 5 років тому +4

      We're almost in 2020. PROGRESS and MORALITY are unknown words as of now... 😥

    • @willsoe
      @willsoe 5 років тому +2

      Do we have conclusive proof yet of the number of these super whales that have mental issues? Obviously it will be a certain percentage, but do we know how many of these whales are just rich people or people who genuinely just have enough disposable income to fund this? I know there's a few pretty strong anecdoteal items, but do we have any large studies yet?

    • @Martoune112233
      @Martoune112233 5 років тому +1

      Whale and super whales are a casino term for players who spend much more than average gamblers. The term describes their impact and presence and has no physical connotation. So it denotes addiction and gambling quite well for the video game industry's direction

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 5 років тому

      Ehh it's a bit of a weird area, legality-wise.
      It's like the old saying goes - "You can only be crazy if you're poor. Rich people are ECCENTRIC"

  • @rhaenyrareigns2200
    @rhaenyrareigns2200 5 років тому +8

    When you wake up, proceed with gobbling on your breakfast, and the first thing you see is that thick Venom reaction of Jim... ah, the day starts good.

  • @Cream147player
    @Cream147player 5 років тому +29

    Even the online games I play are usually as entirely non-social experiences. The purpose of the other players is to serve as superior and more unpredictable AI to play with/against.

  • @jonathanfaber3291
    @jonathanfaber3291 5 років тому +25

    this is all also fascinating, because I'm fairly sure the majority of players are also introverted, that is, their desire for social contact is easily fulfilled and they prefer playing in tightly knit groups, not massive social media networks which cater to the general population, which (depending on who you believe) is anywhere from 50% to 75% extroverted