“The Case Should Be REOPENED For The Sake Of Justice” Says Peter Hitchens On Lucy Letby
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- A panel of international medical experts have argued Lucy Letby is innocent, citing “significant new evidence.”
Letby, 35, is serving 15 life sentences for murdering seven babies and trying to kill seven more. But the 14-member panel says some deaths were natural, while others were due to “bad” medical care.
Her lawyers have asked the Criminal Cases Review Commission to investigate a possible miscarriage of justice.
Ian Collins speaks with Mail On Sunday columnist, Peter Hitchens and reader in criminal law, Dr Hannah Quirk.
Lucy was convicted with no credible evidence, the charges should be quashed or at least go to a retrial
quashed? yes, certainly. retrial? how does that work? another stitchup? I guess they could have a ceremonial review of the facts, and declare that the previous trial was a mistrial. But there was never any basis for a trial of Letby in the first place.
@ Nice one Richard 👍
@@martinwright4612 when Lucy's lawyers simply asked for leave to appeal they were summarily denied ... The British medical judicial establishment v Lucy letby
“ is Lucy guilty ?” is the wrong question. “ Who or what benefits from Lucy being found guilty ? “ is the RIGHT question.
Cui bono ... should always be the first question, every time.
Exactly.
Well said 👏👏👏👏
'follow the money'
STOP CALLING LUCY KILLER NURSE
Call her psycho serial killer nurse
I know, I can’t stand it. Talk are great at many things, but they do trip up on things like this.
So probably don't open the show by calling her 'Killer Nurse' eh? After seeing today's panel of experts she is obviously innocent. The evil people she worked with let her go to jail knowing it wasn't her, deserve to go to prison for a while, to see how they like it.
Well said
Experts lined up by her defence barrister 😂😂😂😂. Really independent 👍👍👍
@@RockHunter-v7jwell they're pretty independent given that they're not being paid, eh? Not the genius you think you are, are ya? 😂
@@RockHunter-v7j rockhunter is a notorious troll. I don't know if he is paid or not.
@ they’re working for the defence barrister ? And if Letby is released, they’ll all do interviews, write papers, give speeches- it’ll be a nice little earner.
Why dont you invite Dewi Evans in to give his response to the press conference. Up until now he's been happy to speak to simpering BBC jounalists, rubbishing anybody who doubts his "expert" opinion. Let's see how he counters REAL experts, with thousands of peer reviewed papers published between them (Evans has none), who know what they're talking about.
I do not trust Evans at all.
The NHS and judicial system are shameful
Poor care ... What a surprise the medical establishment closed ranks went on to blame a nurse
Narcissistic institutions and societies rely on scapegoating, as opposed to teamwork and solving problems.
@@sbeast64Yes abosolutely!
It is utterly disgusting that this woman has been subjected to such a traumatic, cruel, miscarriage of justice. If there’s evidence now there was evidence then. Lucy must be released asap.
Disgusting failure of justice.
On bail of course , she has family to go to . This mustn’t take years .
Now the people who put her there need to explain themselves and face the music.
Amen
The establishment wont turnbon themselves. Look at post office yet the clowns contine to knight each other!!
Are you serious? Every time she was on duty, a baby either got seriously ill or died.the mortality rate went from 3 a year to 3 in one week! Jesus 🙄
Lucy is a victim of a miscarriage of justice
Stop calling Lucy the killer nurse
While some people might find it unfair as things stand now she’s been found guilty of it so it’s accurate based on that.
I think a retrial is necessary but I haven’t formed an opinion either way
Sorry..you're right..letby the serial killer nurse
Let's have possibly wrongly convicted Nurse Lucy Letby.
The serial Killer Lucy Letby .
The obviously innocent Nurse Letby. Fixed it for ya.
She should be freed tomorrow
Given 20 million compensation
And given a new identity
Utterly disgusting the poor woman was used as a scapegoat.
How do you explain all the dead babies?
@@Toecutter875 I assume you did not listen to the press conference ,it was very well explained.
@@sian8527what about the hospital in Liverpool where she worked before? She had numerous investigations opened against her, but you probably didn't know that.
@@Toecutter875 Yes because of this case ,she has NEVER been found to have done anything in that hospital . Get your facts right .
@@sian8527yeah they just suspended her several times for nothing, if you say so love🙄
Many Doctors or Nurses dare not put their head above the parapet to criticise the health system as it could be an end of career decision.
Yes and that's exactly what poor naive Lucy did, no doubt not realising the corruption and 'sweep it under the rug' mentality of this unit.
Exactly my wife was a nurse for over 30 years and if you stepped out of line, even such a thing as refusing a vaccine you were putting your job at risk. like all out of control beaurocracys their rotten at the top.
Looks like Lucy was innocent. They have ruined her life poor woman, compensation is owed but no money will ever give her the freedom she has lost. Absolutely despicable 😢.
@@JulieTurner-v4q she’ll be a rich woman after this, Netflix will be sniffing even before she is let go, and she deserves a comfortable life after all this drama.
You're going to look really stupid when we find out about all the others, she's been at it for years
She can hardly work nursing infants again can she. She deserves a very comfortable early retirement, with the option to move herself and her family abroad if she so wishes - so will obviously need a few quid. If you get unfairly sacked from McDonald's accused wrongly of petty theft you should get a few quid if proven innocent - let alone cases like this.
I think, to me, the worst part would be the gaslighting -- i.e., the blow to your sense of yourself, and your sense of reality 🥺
I do wish people would stop calling her the killer nurse.
It’s very clear that there is beyond reasonable doubt in recent professional findings, and the case should be re examined immediately.
When you say clearly you mean that’s your opinion
Yes it's quite clear to anyone who has been following things closely that the evidence presented by the Crown is completely flawed. Both medically and statistically.
@@RockHunter-v7j Yes, like many of us who have obsessed over this case for over a year, looked at the evidence, etc etc for hours every day. Have you? Clearly not.
Might have read the Daily Mail 🤦
Youre right she's not a nurse anymore.
So this was a modern day witch burning. They villified her and the public was calling her all sorts of names and was baying for her blood. Her life is ruined even if she's let out.
As usual, the shock,horror newspaper headlines influenced public opinion and court verdict. Disgraceful....
The seven bereaved families would do well to consider the quality of care in that hospital. I have four children and I can't imagine what it would be like to lose any of them, but I would take no comfort from knowing that an innocent person had lost their liberty to fudge justice.
Thank you …from a RN . It has been a tragedy on all accounts.
Free Lucy now ffs
The Judicial system is broken, end of.
As is our "health" system aka the NHS.
@@starseedenergyas is this country
Has she been used as a scapegoat for failing this hospital,it's absolutely shocking if she is innocent
If there had been no press conference I doubt the CCRC would have been interested in this miscarriage of justice. Even if they were it would take years to get it to the appeal court as it has done in so many other miscarriages of justice.
The press conference just threw mud, none of it has been verified independently
CPS NEEDS TO GO ON TRIAL
WHY WHY WHY were there no medical experts called by the defence? We need to have an answer. It’s the key to the whole thing.
Difficult to get busy and rich 14: 14:56 52 people to help you
Exactly like the post office, the brand is too big to fail.
All those responsible for this cover up and scapegoating Lucy need to be investigated.
They stitched her up.
You were all calling for the death penalty to be reintroduced last week..maybe now you see how badly that could have gone.
As an American I heartily second this ☝️
I find it amazing that in today's world, we are still having miscarriages of justice. Surely evidence to commit someone to a life imprisonment term should be 100% accurate and true. If this had happened a hundred years ago, she would've been given the death sentence. Justice for Lucy....
What a pity they cannot recall the infected blood & Hillsborough scandals!
Raw sewage was dripping into the ceiling above the clinical area in the unit where tiny very sick babies were being looked after, also a sewage back up into basins where clinicians washed their hands ... Lets add unsafe clinical conditions to poor care
There was no raw sewage dripping anywhere, you're making things up.
@@Toecutter875 I think you need a proper look at the case, your ignorance is astounding. Raw sewage was present in the ward. And to answer your other post, babies who died when Letby wasn’t on duty were not included in the statistics. The duty/death chart was therefore completely meaningless as the statistics were skewed.
@THX-ic8yw what about all the dead babies at the hospital in Liverpool she worked at, does the killer sewage follow her around?
@Toecutter875 a plumber testified IN COURT that this happened. Do some reading.
@@TopherLthere was a bit of mud in the sink, happens in virtually every major building from time to time, you just can't except a woman can be such a monster, you remind me of that toff who used to worship Myra Hindley
There was not any tangible evidence that could be used to convict LL in the first place. Just because the jury bought the assertions and speculations of Dewi Evans that doesn't mean her guilt was proven.
As for the jury, it's not made of experts and given the very circumstancial 'evidence' they had then you understand this could be a recipe for disaster.
Dewi Evans is a charlatan that injected himself into the case, he never should have been allowed anywhere near it.
Nick is a professional Letby cult member- this is all he does all day. Probably on the McDonal payroll
Words of wisdom from Dr Dewi, when asked how he diagnosed air embolism:
"Well, without being too blase about it, it's only difficult if you don't know the answer, OK.
Once you know, you know... It's not very good asking me why I diagnosed air embolus. I think you should be asking other people why didn't they make the diagnosis".
Maybe it's because other people aren't bonkers, Dewi.
Out on her own recognizances.?
@@roncarlin3209 bonkers by Evans. He must be investigated.
There is ZERO probability that she is guilty!!!! She needs to be out of jail now!!! Real serial killer is NHS performance and there is the biggest miscarriage of justice that I can think of against her!
Zero possibility? 😂😂😂 are you serious? As soon as she got there, babies started dying, she was at it for years! She's probably killed hundreds
@@Toecutter875 More probable that you have.
@bobboardman1156 you're the one defending a child killer, not me.
Justice is supposed to be about the truth not just sticking it to someone. British justice has been a disgrace lately
What do ya mean.. lately. Have you not heard of the Birmingham six…
LUCY LETBY IS NOT A KILLER NURSE. Much harm has been done by the press
Maybe the conviction was unsafe, but make no mistake, that woman killed many many children
Another cover up?
I'd like to hear the statistical evidence dismantled too. This is such a tragedy. I hope the parents and Lucy Letby get the opportunity to sue every organisation at fault here
Amen
Norman Fenton has already done that!
Did the police and prosecution help "fit Lucy up" like they did with Andrew Malkinson?
This shows a massive flaw in the process that allows lawyers and judges to subvert real justice
Many moons ago I came across a copy of a handbook for members of the Medical Defence Union (apologies if I've got name wrong - it was quite some time ago). There was a paragraph therein which basically stated "if you do something wrong, find another mug to blame, as your career is too important to jeopardize". So it's been going on for decades.
Look how many people slaged lucy letby off with abhorrent comments on social media about her I had and always had a feeling this women is innocent hope Lucy's is freed very soon
i recently told a friend of mine to quit her job. questionable management using temps as cover when they dont know implications. its sad, many others in jobs like it. i genuinely think she is a scapegoat and never believed this story.
I recently had a hip replacement in a private hospital as an NHS patient. Having worked on wards in many hospitals as a health care assistant when my children were babies (I was a legal secretary but the hours didn’t work with a family), I know what it entails. The night after my op my new joint leg went into spasm and the pain was intense, and having worked nights I resisted ringing the bell but in the end, I had to and after several minutes a nurse appeared. She stood in the doorway with her arms folded and shouted “what do you want”😳. I’d met her before the op and felt a distinct atmosphere (absolutely no interest). I told her when she eventually came over to my bed with the same shocking attitude that I didn’t actually want her. She was very gobby in an aggressive sort of way. I told her that she had been rude since we had first met. She had a change of heart and put her arm around me calling me “darling” (probably realising that she had overstepped the mark). When I went to physio a couple of weeks later, another patient was talking about the shocking ward care, so I told her of my experience and two more patients joined in, it appeared to be the same nurse. One of the patients said that a physio had told her that they had insufficient permanent staff and brought in bank staff from many miles away. I then realised that the staff morale was at rock bottom. Regular staff presumably were unhappy that bank staff were brought in on much more pay, with a lot of them (not all of them) were just doing the minimum. If private hospitals take NHS patients they quite clearly need to show that they have enough permanent staff to do the job. As an adult I have a voice, prem babies (any babies) have no voice ☹️
I feel, think, her conviction may be incorrect. I have thought so from the initial trial.
Bs
The main prosecuting witness volunteered his services to police even though he was not licensed to practice at the time
The “expert” you just watched is retired and can’t practice either 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@RockHunter-v7jyeah but he was the author of the research paper that the dodgy crown doctor misinterpreted 😂 you're not following what's been going on have ya? 😂
@ you’re not very clever are you ? This is old evidence, it could have been challenged by the defence at the trial but it wasn’t. You don’t get to rerun the trial better. She needs compelling new evidence, this isn’t it, he’s just using the same old nonsense the cult have been saying every day for months
@@holycannoli64 Just ignore him (Rockhunter). If Lucy Letby was black, he’d be fawning all over the case.
@@THX-ic8yw good point. I expect you're spot on, there. THX1138 is a classic btw.
Maybe the Criminal Case Review Commission should simply consider the FACTS that our now well and truly out there, rather than their internal "rules" for considering an appeal. Is that too difficult for them to accept in the rarefied environment of their pompous constipated bubble?
The best thing for those families, and would be parents who might have their babies there is for the truth to come out.
I wonder how many other cases have gone down this route?
it was too expensive for her to challenge the experts
What? This ain’t the USA you melt. She had “LEGAL AID” ALL. LEGAL EXPENSES COVERED ” educate yourself
It could be one of your children one day. My son went out on an innocent night out 20 years of age. He rejected her and she made allegations on him. The evidence he presented was not even able to be cross examined by the prosecution. His life now is miserable. Case dismissed. But it was on social media and abhorrent comments.
Well said Ian we need to know the truth to give the families peace and let them mourn .
Innocent.
No
The first person interviewed does not appreciate how ridiculous Evans evidence was. It could have been demolished much earlier. But the statistics that were used to identify Lucy in the first place were also nonsense. That should have been spotted at the outset but the police declined to take expert statistical advice
Yes the CPS told them (illegally) not to pursue that line of enquiry from a statistical expert at Warwick university!
THIS NEEDS PUBLIC PRESSURE ALSO .( If she's innocent) ..LEGALLY
Lucy should be given bail,until either a retrial or convictions quashed, the judiciary never like to be proved wrong,
Raises serious doubt so must be retried with new evidence.
This is shameful. The jury only convicted after being given inadequate evidence: the expert opinions on the other side were never presented, and those are obviously more plausible, logical, and conclusive. There is no point in throwing the jury under the bus here -- this was an unambiguous failure of law enforcement and the judicial system.
Lucy is innocent. May she be released with immediate effect, and by awarded a seven figure compensation. Nothing less than millions will be just. The judge who put her in prison can replace her in her cell.
Free Lucy!
This week
There should be serious legal consequences agsinst all yhose involved in her case if she gets exonerated.
If !!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Sake of justice. Should be an inquiry IMO. As the Canadian doctor said. If this happened in Canada it would be shut down.
I disagree with Dr Hannah Quirk, the press conference was the best way to do it, raise awareness, be the loud squeaking door otherwise it will drag on for years and years. It is so difficult to get an appeal, this is very much a great way to lean on the justice system and pass the ball to them with the world aware and watching.
A press conference is the last desperate measure of a Poundland barrister who knows he has no new evidence so he’s trying to discredit old evidence. That’s not grounds for retrial
"Mustn't be a trial by media" - hasn't there been a trial by media for years already? And one push back by the defence in the media is a no no? They are just trying to level this field
She is innocent
Just shows how untrustworthy doctors are. Earning way to much
starting to sound like the DR's might be responsible for the babies deaths and trying to pass off responsibility to Lucy ?
Public workers cover their arses when something goes wrong. Every single time.
Can you please stop referring to her as the "Killer Nurse" She isnt.
...and who actually was Lucy Letby's defence team? Who appointed them and has anyone questioned their approach?
The hospital is falling down, it needs to be pulled down. I was shocked when I visited that nothing had been done years later. Big holes in the ceiling.
I don’t think experts should be on the side of defence or prosecution. They should present the clinical evidence and base their expert opinion on that.
The fact you start this off by saying "killer nurse" when there's now doubt, is very biased.
Is she innocent? I can't say. But I do not think she had a fair trial, too much circumstantial evidence and that the prosecution makes that fit their narrative. I don't think the note should have been allowed in as evidence, they pick and choose bits of the note to use as "evidence". Also her Facebook searches are not evidence of guilt and shouldn't be allowed in.
She was made the scapegoat by the inadequacies of a NHS Countess of Chester hospital. They would not take the flack so they placed the onus on the weakest link!
Poor Lucy wot she has had to go through is criminal conspiracy that is rooted in that hospital and some doctors making her a scape goat for the awfully care these baby's received
Poor Lucy? Give me a break, 2 of the 3 triplets in her care ended up dead, what about all the investigations into her at the hospital in Liverpool, all her crimes will come out one day.....
It has deflected criticism of the hospital’s poor treatments of these babies. Letby is the scapegoat. It will be a travesty if they don’t release her. The judgement was intended to bring closure to the parents at the expense of the closure of the unfortunate nurses freedom.
Bizarrely after debate about death penalty coming back with the Stockport murders this is a great example of why we can’t bring it back!
History debunked pointed out on his channel about inconsistencies in the case a year or 2 back, He also pointed out there was a case just like this one in holland and the case went back to court and the woman was found NOT guilty
Would he be "Debunking" the case if she were black or a Muslim?
@alexojideagu Race baiters like yourself are very angry narcissistic people who are always looking to stir up trouble, The difference is he bases it on facts and reality rather than opinions and fantasy in your world
It would be very helpful if this woman could mention just one piece of evidence that’s held up to scrutiny against Lucy Letby?
How else could defence allow the public to know about this appalling miscarriage of justice?
The judicial system as we know will allow people who are innocent to remain in jail for decades!
Right now and until she is found not guilty, she will be know as a “killer nurse”
The investigation needs to be reopened and the integrity of the investigators looked at
It's clear to me she didn't watch the press conference. If you're gonna talk about the press conference at least watch it first.
It was obvious if you had any insight
It’s sad that all of society got on board with her guilt, assuming she did it before we even knew anything about the case at all. And none of us saw the trial.
NHS is poor standard. Lucy Letby was a scapegoat,people were part of a team. Lucy was on the team!!
Can you take a look at the video clip you show on this program of the Police Interview? If you look close enough you'll see a skip in the video at 0652 on the hour clock to the right. It's approximately 1 minute 4 seconds in duration. Ask the Cheshire Police about that skip. Also, ask for the entire video of the interview and intorrogation for July 3, 2018. I think you'll have a really big story if you do that. Just a hunch. That's what us old retired Investigators called a gut feeling.
Thank you!
vid entitled Ex Chief Constable. vid (shorts). I noticed this too. I also noticed that many reports refer to the police interview video as 'chilling' 'shocking' etc, some even came with a 'graphic warning', when there's absolutely nothing of that nature to be seen or heard. They do this.
@AKA_Mustbe Thank you for the information. It's reassuring that you see that as well.
Pointless giving Ian topics like this to cover....man has no objectivity.....look how he was and still is about the jabs.
Oh look an antivaxxer🙄🙄
The 2016 CQC Inspection Report revealed many problems on the Neonatal Ward.
Page 113 is a great place to start reading.
Was Lucy Letby the original Whistleblower?
Where are the tape recordings?
I dont know whether she is guilty or not. Clearly the jury would yave seen evidence we may not have. But to me, looking at information available publicly, there is reasonable doubt.
Even if the hospital was a fault it does not explain why Letby was always there and others were not.
My heart goes out to this woman.. I use to work for the NHS, it was hell... Bullied by The angels of darkness... These people should be disgusted with themselves and these so called experts need to be looked at immediately! Lucy should be released immediately!
Wether she is guilty or not doesn’t affect my life so unlike so many I’m not emotionally invested in any guilty outcome but, for the sake of public confidence in the judiciary there should be a retrial.
Too many seem to be emotionally invested in this which is really quite worrying. Everyone should champion ‘innocent until proven guilty’ ‘fair trial’ and the appeals process because you never know if you or someone you know might find themselves in court being falsely accused. If she’s guilty the trial should be able to prove it.
Her trials already did..she's proven guilty
@@Swansong321 why are you so emotionally invested in this ? If she’s guilty any retrial will come to the same conclusion, no ?
I want to make sure the judiciary is correct incase I find myself in court and you should too which includes appeals and retrials if necessary.
As long as juries are made of pedestrians with no knowledge of science or medicine and 'experts' sell their unsubstantiated claims and assertions as facts then miscarriages of justice will always happen.
Go home Yank - Trump needs you
Bang on what has been done to this woman is absolutely evil!
Maybe tell the also crucial discovery that Dr Evan’s initially diagnosed ten other babies who had died as suspicious such as air forced into veins; tubes moved deliberately; one he reported as someone placing a hand over the babies mouth and suffocating the baby. Funny enough, for these ten babies, Lucy was not on duty. How strange that this was never disclosed to the jury. It would have sown that 10 out of 17 deaths occurred when Lucy was off duty. Why made the decision to only shown the statistics of babies deaths when Lucy was in duty?
I don't know if Lucy Letby is guilty or not, but I would want any person to have a fair trial without prejudice.
Handcuffed like she was/is a dangerous criminal? Surely there was no need what so ever to have done this! There needs to be new and different ways of arresting a person who poses no threat/danger or risk to anyone. Changes are what makes improvements. If we didn`t have reform we would still be living in the dark and distant past.
I feel for the parents having to go through all this bs.
Not bs, real doubt has been raised.
The wrongful conviction of an innocent person should be the chief concern here.
How about Lucy's parents.
@@mariewalmsley6143 We must not emotionalise this, those babies died and yes that's tragic, but Letby might not be the reason.
@theobjectivethinker. I know how dare someone actually consider the parents in all this.
No matter what her life has been destroyed now,through a justice system that has ruined her life.All because of 2 doctors that got it wrong.
No my friend.
I stated that it’s clear beyond reasonable doubt in recent professional findings !!!.
Not my personal opinion !
I always felt sorry for her, I didn't think she was guilty, just look at the expression on her face when she was led, handcuffed, from her home. She was clearly in total shock and dazed. She has been let down by the justice system, and by the hospital where she worked. If they can rush so called far right thugs guilty of hurty words on social media, through the system in a couple of weeks, then surely a case where someone has quite possibly been convicted of the most heinous crime of all and branded a mass child killer, is most likely innocent after all, they really need to get their fingers out and their wallets too. This poor woman has been through enough hell.
Wow such a coincidence that this has come out at the exact moment the child was murdered in school, take the heat out of the stabby stabby school 🤔🤔
Dr Hannah Quirk to my ears seems to be saying '......... The best way to deal with a moral dilemma is to pretend it isn't there and maintain the status quo for decades if need be, and if you disagree with me your daft .........' I can't agree with her. If a person doesn't want to hear the truth, then they are still entitled to hear the truth whether they like it or not, if it avoids great harm to an innocent third party. I not surprised her students start to fall asleep after listening to her for 'arf an 'our.