Madoka Magica Has the MOST BRUTAL Ending
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2024
- Madoka Magica episodes 11 and 12 Blind Reaction
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The reveal about Madoka's "chosen one" nature is one of my favorite twists in any piece of media. The idea that she is "chosen" because *Homura* chose her, because Homura loved her so much that she kept re-writing time around her over and over until she was the literal center of the universe because that's what she was to Homura... * chef's kiss *. So good.
And then even after all that it was doomed by the narrative
that's so tragic from homura's end. literally the last thing she wanted happened and it was directly because of her own actions. she loved madoka so much that she caused her to cease to exist. i can't blame her for what she did in rebellion at all, the guilt (and the self-hatred that comes w that) of knowing that i was the one who robbed my loved one of their entire existence when i was just trying to keep them safe and happy would tear me up inside, too.
@@juniper1350 I wouldn't say she cease to exist. She still is, just as a god, not physically anymore, but still. her soul still is and she influences the world.
The idea of becoming what someone who loves you sees is amazing to me. There’s a manga I can’t say the name of so I won’t spoil it but one of the characters loses her memory and can only see herself through the lense of what the boy who was in love with her previous self saw her as. He filmed what he believed were her final moments and filmed how he viewed her, and she becomes that person. She is the view of someone who loved her and I find that incredible- kind of like how madoka became a literal constant of the universe, just like how homura believed her to be
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Does it become with R?
It's sad that the nature of Madoka's wish isn't even SAVING every magical girl
It's MERCY KILLING the magical girls once their duty comes to an end.
i would still consider it "saving" bc she literally prevents them from becoming witches and she's doing it in a way that isn't painful. compare this to how homura mercy-killed madoka; they're very different
@@juniper1350 Yeah, I guess I just consider "Saving" to mean... extending their life... This is like she's "Saving" you from a Car crash by blowing up your car with a rocket launcher before it hits the other cars
That's the thing- Madoka always respected girls wishes to become magical girls, no matter what. She just gives them fair ending, while allowing them to try and risk their lives for happiness and hope on Earth to exist
SPOILER FOR MOVIE BELOW
-while Homura could not accept Madoka's wish and had to give her happy ending on her, Homura's term
@@charlenka True to a point, magical girls still get tricked by kubey and the cosmic karma thing is still in place, meaning, for what ever good they wished for, they get a lot of suffering with it. They still suffer a lot, most of the time.
@@fee6362 Some may be tricked but others like Mami may have a better chance of happiness. "Careful what you wished for" can be applied to things that people deal with naturally anyway so throwing some actual wish granting magic into the mix is just a bit of flavor. Stories like Kyouko's or Sayaka's can happen without the magic, the magic just helped them be the cause of a part of it.
I think Madokas wish was mainly for the girls to _not_ become witches. She couldn't save their lifes, because the wishes they made were important to them, so she didn't want to take that away. So all she could give them was a peaceful death without succumbing to dispair.
Everyone must to read this comment 🙌
Wouldn't it be better then to just make them not be magical girls when they reach that point ?
Like, when their gem is fully corrupted they permanently lose their powers and all the impurity gets of the sould and manifests as something, there's the risk of the girls dying but a chance it's better than certain doom
That way the girl still keep her wish, but doesn't die as a consequence
@@julianogueira714She can't. Ther _has_ to be balance and the girls have to pay a price for making the impossible possible.
@@julianogueira714there has to be a price
She basically gave them a valhalla like afterlife to go to. A reward in death rather then an eternal torture of becoming a witch that creates even more suffering and grief. I actually love the ending. It's kinda the perfect way to go for this sort of anime about despair and hope.
The interactions with Madoka's mom shows why adults are not suited to be magical girls. They have settled into their existence. They accept reality as it is, with no desire or even need to change it. When bad things happen, they accept it, feel the pain, and move on.
If only that applied to real world adults 😅
That.... Isn't actually accurate to the real world. At least not for me. It's incredibly difficult, which is probably why most people just accept it and move on.
But unless it's like literally death or sudden disability. Most things can really change if you are willing to force them to change.
@@Myke_thehuman You just admitted that most people just accept and move on
Funfact : It is implied that Cleopatra, Joan of Arc AND Ann Frank were magical girls... Also, taking supplementary materials (like the Magia Record mobile game and anime) in account, Magical girls can be as young as 6 years old.
i wonder what their wish was, becouse is not like any of them 3 had a happy life, not even close
magical girl Joan of arc has a spin off manga called Tart Magica
@@kikofernandez9184 I mean isn't that kind of the thing? No character in this who gets their wish granted end up happy. The mark of a magical girl is tragedy and sacrifice.
Anne's wish could have been for others, or for the "end" of the Holocaust.
@@hel117 yeah fair point there
Can’t wait till he sees how Rebellion ends.
Same I love this movie and I am waiting for the next Madoka Magica movie
Me too man, I hope he'll react to it😭😭
Yes please
Oh the one fight scene... Look if you have seen it you know which one
@@mattemactics1280lesbian gothic girl vs emotionally unstable girl?
Fun Fact: Hitomi is seen crying at Sayaka’s funeral. Despite confessing first to Kyosuke, she genuinely treasures Sayaka as a friend
What do you mean "despite everything that happened"? Nothing happened to Hitomi. Why would she not think of Sayaka as a friend?
Because they are friends??? Who liked the same person????
@@alilith3476 But if anyone would have a problem, it'd be Sayaka. Hitomi got the guy.
@@Kaylakaze because a lot of people love to demonize hitomi and mischaracterize as not caring about sayaka or her feelings. it's a big problem in the fandom
Wait what? I didn't notice that until now. Damn
I also read somewhere that the author mentioned Sayaka was ALWAYS destined to be a witch because even if she got her man, it shows he’s so dedicated to his music that he neglects Sayaka always.
Mannn thats so sad 😢
Madoka has created a universe where, when magical girls die, they see how much good they did in the world when they die while hanging out with a literal God. better than the earlier universe where Magical Girls deaths are a cruel prank underlining the futility of everything.
They essentially go to heaven with Madoka
pretty much, but a universe with incubators in it probably does not have a naturally occurring God to maintain a heaven.@@itamochivargas6233
in the become a witch universe their death isn't a prank, it's worse its being condemned to a hellish void of eternal suffering where you cannot help but make other people's existence as hellish as your own until one day a Magical Girl comes to put you out of your misery but you know it won't be an end to the suffering since she too will eventually fall to despair and become a Witch just like you.
Madoka broke the cycle, she lets Magical Girls continue to exist and bring hope/joy to the world but when their burden becomes too heavy and they fall to despair Madoka eases their burden so they can finally rest without their misery destroying the world they fought to protect
@@itamochivargas6233 no it's not heaven. they just go into a coma like state and then madokami wakes them up to do erands for the god who killed them.
but what about characters like nagisa, who never really did anything good.
so what's the point of killing her off?
According to production staff Madoka’s brother sees Madoka as a imaginary friend but will eventually forget as he grows older
This video cuts out the part where the mom mentioned that
NOO HE'S GONNA FORGET HER
@@juniper1350 Watch Rebellion _wink wink_
the thing is,, Walpurgisnacht only takes magical damage, so Homura, with all the real life weaponry, could never have defeated Walpurgisnacht
...oh no that's terribly sad I never knew that.
god that's so incredibly fucked up, she's the only magical girl without magic weapons and most of the other ones are unwilling to listen to her long enough to prepare to fight and likely die before the end of the month, mami we know isnt't strong enough from timeline 1, and if madoka makes a wish then that's also going to end up with homura resetting the timeline to avoid seeing her become a witch
I will be in your Walls tonight.
no, you didn't see the purple aura around weapons? she enchanted with her magic same way that Mami use on baseball bat for Sayak to a protect herself.
but it clearly that Homura magic not use for fight in the first place so her magic just not powerful enough to fight with Walpurgisnacht all alone.
Walpurgis is built different
Atrociously tanky
The way I understood, it madokas wish didn't exactly save anyone, it just gave meaning to a magical girl's death. Now when they die they can die knowing they actually made a difference and that everything they did actually matterd instead of knowing there end just caused new horrors to be born in the world. She let's them pass happily
This is true if by 'saving' you mean 'avoiding death' --they certainly still die if they don't fight well enough. But considering that now they basically go to heaven with Madoka as their psychopomp instead of becoming horrible monsters that destroy other people's lives while not being destroyed by other magical girls... I'd say Madoka saved them, yes.
Basically, when madoka turns into a witch, glubey duperson is all "well, she brought enough hope to save the universe, so now she will bring enough despair to end it" but madoka's wish is to personally destroy ALL WITCHES before they are born, wich includes herself. So she shows up and one-shots her own witch, basically cheating the balance.
KYubey: hold on let me check my notes hold on this doesn't seem physically possible
Madoka:fuck yu I'ma god now I do what I want
kyubey: motherfu-
@@sarafontanini7051 Kyubey: hey thats not very balanced.
Madoka: so?
@@matheusm.santana6527 madoka: okay and?
@@matheusm.santana6527 madoka: yes....and?
i can't find the scene i saw it happen i remember watching it but i can't find it
“If I were to become a magical girl..” Someone draw Danny as a magical girl asap
Please no upskirt perspective
on it, boss 🫡
Poofy skirt, cutsy socks, pastel colors and everything
On it
I'll do my best comrade 🫡
Something to note is that Kyubey, while not being able to state falsehoods, can lie through omission or misdirection. Everything he says has a purpose. Normally, Kyubey withholds info such as how Soul Gems work or creation of Witchs and excuses it with "You never asked". But with Homura and Madoka, he freely gives speaks and speculates because he's trying to drive them to certain conclusions.
Kyubey tells Homura that turning back time is what made Madoka so powerful, because he's trying to convince Homura that turning back time will only make Madoka's fate more horrific. Kyubey tells Madoka of humanity's and the Incubator's history to dismiss any notions of Madoka wishing away the Incubators or the like. Notice how Kyubey words things too "Humanity would likely still be living naked in caves." is extraordinarily speculative, and is meant to drive Madoka into thinking his species is essential to human development.
There's something similar earlier on where Kyubey eggs Kyoko on into believing she can turn Sayaka from a Witch back into a human by saying "It wouldn't surprise me.". But when Homura later asks if it was possible, he outright denies the possibility ever existing. Kyubey's race doesn't have emotions, he couldn't have been surprised if it did happen, but he also knows it couldn't have happened. He purposely misdirected Kyoko into a impossible suicide mission in order to isolate Homura of potential allies. And he's likely doing the same to Homura and Madoka, but they can't prove or assume he's wrong because the consequences would be dire if Kyubey was actually right in his speculation.
I genuinely adore how the conclusion of this series is imperfect, both because the "perfect" solution doesn't exist AND because this answer comes from a flawed 12 year old girl. I also love that she thanks Homura for delaying her wish, allowing her to understand the system behind it and actually *make use* of the wish, something she was so caught up about earlier on.
I'm also a fan of Madoka using her wish to negate the suffering of girls before they turn to witches specifically because it plays into the existing system. If she wished to erase magical girls from existence, for example, who's to say the system wouldn't re-make itself with a different word/title? If she deleted the incubators, who's to say a different species wouldn't fill their role, thus changing nothing? Yeah, the system still sucks, but Madoka made it worth something, and that's pretty damn incredible.
Also our furry "friend" did say he was trying to stop the universe from dying so If she did kill him she might have also doomed the universe, where he said "others" live and there is no way she would be willing to do that
It's funny that people get mad at Madoka's mom for interfering but when you really think about it, she let her child go out in a category 3 HURRICANE for some vague reason she has absolutely no context about. Like that's actually an insane thing for a parent to do😭😭
Ikr!! When i was watching the show for the first time i was like "what why would you let your daughter go in the middle of a natural desaster!! To save a friend?? Dafuq just go where its safe" lmao 💀
Yeah I was confused at his hyperfixation on her slap. I mean, her middle school aged daughter just told her that she’s going out into a sudden storm that is basically fated to wipe out the city, it’s no wonder she thought Madoka needed to get a grip
@@sylver_drawer I don't know if you watch them but the reaction channel YaBoyRoshi are pretty much the only reactors I've seen be like wtf to her letting Madoka go and that's because they're parents themselves, so they were immediately like oh hell no lol
@@dejajade6726 I loved that, I would have DRAGGED her back lol
Yeah its like the one context I think a firm face slap is deserved or valid lol, she's trying to shock her into not basically killing herself in the hurricaine (from her mom's pov)
Madoka Magica is great example of "the chosen one" - trope at the same time deconstructed and made right
The big difference is who is doing the choosing
Madoka 🤝 The Matrix both doing it right 😳
The chosen one is a good concept the problem comes when a character who was supposed to be random becomes the center of the universe because REASONS.
Like you have the mystic fruit of the gods or your grand grand grand grand grand grandfather was half alien so you have some alien blood.
Subversion doesn't mean it's good but it's for sure different.
My favorite part was watching him react to mami
"That was the twist? pfff come on guys thats nothing"
Procedes then ride the biggest emotional rollercoaster of depression and sadness where the only passengers are middle schoolers while Gloopy Dooperson watches from the control panel.
Fun fact, one of the reasons Homura never really damages Walpurgis is because she can just take magic damage (like Madoka's and Mami's attacks). So Homura was basically fighting a losing war.
I love tragic doomed yuri
madohomu the doomed tragic yuri ever
TRAGIC YURI🙏🙏🙏🙏
DOOMED YURI MY LIFEBLOOD 🙏
So did eleven year old bisexual girl me bingeing the show on my kindle in a day
@@Pinkywinkykinky and you were real for that
Now you gotta watch Rebellion (one of the movies) and the side series.
You are not cleared Danny.
Not yet.
*plays "not yet" in my piano*
Frr. Currently watching magia record and am loving it.
Is the side series really, REALLY worth watching? I've loved Madoka since Season 1 came out. It's one of my favorite anime. But, like... I just can't bring myself to care about the side series anime, lol. Dunno why.
The spinoff wasn’t very good but rebellion is worth watching
@@virtuosoflux no, i watched all of it and the writing is nothing near as good as the main series. Having watched all of it, i don't care about the new characters.
Fun fact. Voice actors cried frequently in the booths while recording lines in the show. They would have to cut often because of the frequency of breakdowns. Probably taking a break is why there isn’t another season.
Thats why we have rebellion
Walpurgisnacht rising should be coming out this season though 🔥🔥
People talk about sayaka being selfish and her wish wanting praise... but they forget her final words on the matter. She just wanted to hear him play one last time.
She's so selfless that realizing she wanted a little more than just wanting to hear Kyosuke play one more time killed her. Seriously how do people hate this girl
and you will more annoyed her when watching other side stories. this girl is just ridiculous stubborn head.
no matter peoples try treat her good but she just throw it away and keep thought that she was a 'right' one and if someone try to stop her that people will be a bad guy in her eyes. = =
in Rebellion redemption her after she know the truth and saw how suffering Homura been from the past. ( and yes... mostly problem was from Sayaka as well )
'If Madoka eliminated witches, how are there still grief seeds? And Kyūbē?' Well, the show says it a second later. There are no grief seeds anymore, but the evil feelings of humans still crystalize in other formats -- the little cubes that magical girls get from wraiths.
It has been said that one of the effects of Madoka's wish was to transform an utterly unfair universe into one in which magical girls of the Sailor Moon kind become possible. Now that the physics works differently -- no more grief seeds with huge bursts of energy --, Kyūbē and his people changed their behavior, because, being logical creatures, they see that now actually helping magical girls is the most profitable attitude to get energy cubes. Now, the longer a girl survives, the longer they keep getting cubes, so it makes sense for them to behave like old-style Magical Girl mascots now. As Homura said, it's the kind of creatures they are.
Madoka walked so the Sailor Moon universe could run😩😭
@@sugasweet435 omg 😭😭
once he watches rebellion he's gonna actually have lost his mind
homoura on demon time :D
I hope he feels my favorite line into his soul " I shouldn't have let you go"
“This feels like the ending of Madoka’s arc, but the ending of something else entirely.”
That’s not far the from the truth. Madoka’s arc has certainly ended, but _Homura,_ on the other hand … well, let’s just say she has a long way to go.
How much we gotta shill to make him watch Rebellion? 😅
@@rach3092 I know, right? T-T
To answer your question: They don't turn into witches, they just disappear.
It's more like, Madoka erased herself from existence. She didn't die, she simply never existed. She rewrote the world so she never existed in the first place.
yeah exactly, MADOKA never existed. The wish seems to grant the power necessary to complete itself. But for her to reach every magical girl ever since the beginning of time until the end of time she needs to be a being that transcends time itself, A God or Governing law of the universe. That means she can't exist physically. But as a God, "The Law of Cycles" exists in every time, everywhere, always. Madoka has become a being, like Kyube said, with no beginning and no end. Which means that in this universe that Madoka rebuilds, she exists since its conception and even before the birth of the Human Race or even before the birth of the Incubators. And when a Magical Girl dies, they join her as agents of this Law. They basically join Madoka as part of the Law of Cycles and cease to exist as physical beings. How could her parents remember birthing a being that predates them? But Homura's wish was specifically "I want to redo my meeting with Miss Kaname. But this time, instead of her protecting me, I want to become strong enough to protect her" so in a world where Madoka, doesn't exist, only someone whose wish was centered on meeting her again and being strong enough to save her could possibly be able to remember her. But this also begs the question, what was Homura's wish in this new timeline where Madoka never existed and why did that result in her having a bow instead of a shield? My theory is that under madoka's influence as a God, Homura can't turn back time because she can't go back to save Madoka, a human who never existed.
***SPOILERS FOR REBELLION***
but once the incubators place Homura in the isolation field, cutting her off from the law of cycles, she once again gained the power to manipulate time BECAUSE she is cut off from Madoka's influence. because Madoka existed once again as Madoka and not as The Law of Cycles inside of the isolation field, Homura had the ability to use her original wish to save Madoka and thus regained her original weapons and power to manipulate time. That's also why, placing her in the isolation field with a God, temporarily turned human again, they gave Homura a HUGE amount of Karmic Destiny. She now, as a magical girl in that isolation field, had the wish and the opportunity to prevent a God from being a God. This was the only way in which she could fulfill her wish and that wish was directly tied to the Karmic destiny of a GOD. Not to mention, Homuras wish was SPECIFICALLY NOT TO BE SO WEAK THAT MADOKA HAS TO PROTECT HER!!! "But this time, instead of her protecting me, I want to become strong enough to protect her!" Her destiny is to be strong enough to protect a GOD, and the incubators made it possible because they let Madoka and the law of cycles enter the isolation field as Madoka. Only in Homura's weird messed up way.
This hurts so much it is really well written
See, the thing about Kaname Madoka is that, while she may seem fairly well put together on the surface, she actually has crippling self-worth issues, and can only really feel good about herself when she's helping others. That's why she's the nurse's aid for her class, for instance. But she's still almost certainly clinically depressed, a condition not helped by either Japan's perspective on mental illness nor the trauma of... the entire series.
And so, from that perspective, we realize that Madoka was fully aware that she may cease to properly exist upon apotheosis, a fact helped by how wishes in this universe _tend_ to legitimately be what you're asking for, with the "Karmic Backlash" being more of an externality. So, Madoka becoming the Law of Cycles, or more properly, fusing with the Rumor of the Law of Cycles (long story don't ask), was, in a sense, the perfect suicide. She could help countless people immensely, and once she was gone, nobody would remember her, so nobody would be hurt as _nobody would miss her._
When Homura said that she was from another timeline, Madoka _got_ that she'd been going back in time to save people, but _didn't_ get that Homura was trying to save _her,_ specifically, due to the aforementioned self-worth issues. But as a result of making her wish, she was able to _properly_ see, for the first time, just how much Homura cared about her. But she already had made her wish, of course, so even if she wanted to talk more, even if she wanted to stay longer, she _couldn't._ That's actually the context behind the song "Mata Ashita," which was, notably, sung by Madoka's VA and used as the first ED in the blu-ray version (in the tv release, prior to episode 3, there were no EDs).
I didn't get a feeling of reluctance from Madoka after she made her wish, though. She comforted Homura because now that she knew everything, she finally could. But while Homura has a downer take on everything, Madoka is always correcting her about why this is a good thing. I mean, how many times did Homura say something and Madoka had to say "no, that's wrong"? LOL
@@JDJeanMichelHomura wasn’t “being a downer” she’s in incredible emotional pain. The only person she loves is not only going to get erased forever, but it’s also a self sacrifice and Madoka never gets to live the happy life she could have. Everyone else gets to experience relief and hope, but it’s an awful ending for both Madoka and Homura. They don’t get their happy endings. Madoka can accept this but Homura struggles to
This is the most perfect explanation I’ve ever read. But could you please elaborate more on the rumor aspect?? I thought uwasas were only a thing in magia record??
@@savannahs.5874 And MagiReco was in development around the same time as Rebellion. I’m not 100% sure on the specifics, but I’m pretty sure that Uwasa are… more generic wish/magic-created entities, as opposed to a Nemu-specific thing. As for the Rumor of the Law of Cycles, it’s referenced as a Rumor in Rebellion at one point iirc, the way Homura separates it from Madoka is incredibly similar to how one separates any other Uwasa from a person… and in JP MagiReco, the Rumor of the Law of Cycles _does_ make a solo appearance. And you know what form it takes? That of an Incubator, just with the pink and white fur swapped.
@@JDJeanMichel If you've watched Rebellion you know that Madoka herself doesn't see her choice (to be erased, specifcially, not how she saves magical girls) to be "not what she wants". At least partially. So she's at least semi-lying about it being ok and being totally happy, even if its still largely her intention. Realising that is the catalyst for Homura's complete psychotic break and a big part of why she does what she does at the end of the movie.
Madoka's wish hits me right in the gut. Although she couldn't save those magical girls that were defeated by their own despair, she prevented them from becoming witches which allows them to die in relief KNOWING that they wouldn't become one of those horrible creatures they were fighting against.
In a way, it is beautiful.
18:47
her wish becomes a paradox. her wish grants her the power to Prevent the process of becoming a Witch in the past, present and Future. this includes herself.
then, when the universe has to "Write" it's Cause and Effect, it has to "Reboot" the world under new rules, hence the wraiths
The reason there is little more is because everybody involved is a perfectionist to the point that the last movie has been stuck in development hell for 10 years
The alternative would be Urobuchi writing just the outline and walking, giving us Aldnoah Zero or Psycho-Pass Season 2. Then Shaft goes back to making Bakemonogatari Season 23.
@@godowskygodowsky1155 Ironically, he finished writing the script between 2014-2016, so it's really been everyone else on the project who's been taking ages to finish it lmao.
Well the new movie is set to release this winter
“I’m shocked this show didn’t blow up into a massive franchise” well do I have news for you!
Wait you mean there is?! Please tell me
@@ChaseWood-_def_gay_The show got 2 recap movies, one SEQUAL movie and another movie on it's way.
It also has a few manga with new characters and plot
And you know an anime is popular when it has a gacha game (Magia Record) having an anime adaptation
I feel like Madoka and Sayaka's conversation explains her wish a lot. She wanted to save them from eternal suffering, all the while remaining respectful of their own wishes. These girls wanted something so bad they made a contract and fought for it. If she were to ask for Incubators to have never came to Earth or something, she would have taken all of these wishes away from them, too.
I really like that the condition that Magical Girls MUST exist for modern society to develop is a part of the world-building because 1) it means they are too important to destroy entirely and 2) it means Kyubey and his race are too important to destroy entirely (at least from history). Its a way of closing the "I wish your species had never come to Earth" door that makes perfect sense.
7:31 Japanese police report suicides as accidental death.
.... That is beyond fucked up and I hate the implications that it has.
'That's a horrible idea! Won't she kill every girl who ever became a magical girl?'
Ah! But pay attention to the wish: Madoka said--'before they are born'. In other words: the girls remain, the witches go... the witches actually are never born, and the girls remain as magical girls. See? Her wish is Danny-Motta-proof! 🙂
Except that's not what happened at all
"The end of Madoka's arc" indeed. Homura's arc has yet to be finished Danny, onto Rebellion!
''What is this utter hooplah?'' apart from 'gloopy duperson' that's probably my favorite quote from this whole series 😭
23:11
"feels like the opening of an entirely different one."
Yeah. The different one is called "Rebellion" *watch it*
to be fair, rebellion has fuck all to do with wraiths lmao.
It is a pretty good continuation tho.
@@CorralSummer It has a little, the fact that they should be there is like the second clue something is wrong after seeing characters that shouldn't be there. I think the clues are fun sorry
It's "opening" for spin off, wraith arc
I don't know whether to be happy or scared.@@str4wb33r4
Well rebellion says screw you to the wraiths, that's where the manga spinoff comes in
17:39 "Afghanistan magical girl, holocoust magical girl" You are not wrong... but the way you describe it is a complete meme
Thats the joke, yes
Danny, i can't believe after all the cake jokes, you didn't mention Madoka finally getting her slice of cake after making her wish.
There's actual plenty of spin-off material, none of it just ended up nearly as popular as the main story
WE'VE MADE IT Y'ALL
Now you've just gotta watch the movie
I dont know why but when you said " what would an neanderthal wish for" my mind went straight to the awnser "the ability to subscribe to my patrion"
I think youre videos have succsesfully brainwashed me
I just thought "food???" Maybe somebody got that cake after all. omg he is going to lose his mind at the cake scene in the movieT_T XD
There’s no second season, but there’s a Movie that continues it called Rebellion. You should watch it because it’s gold. And expands the story a lot.
4:52 I think this actually ties back in to Gloopy Doopersons not having emotions; to them, the emotional highs of "freedom" mean absolutely nothing compared to the objectivity of existing longer than you otherwise would have. They'd likely be A-okay with the concept of 3 years spent sitting on your ass conserving energy than being "free" but having to struggle and fend for yourself. So, Madoka effectively gets a blast of horrifying eldritch nihilism to the brain from this. Good stuff!
Fun fact, Homura spent 12 years repeating that one month trying to save madoka💞💞
TWELVE FUCKING YEARS?! Good gods that's brutal...
I think its actually 100 year's as i read in in thw wiki but that was like 8 year's ago so idk
@@the12rosegarden7 You probably confuse it with the number of cycles she went through. Average of 6 week cycles, which then add up to 12 years time total 😊
The final witch that Homura always fight in the end of almosf every timeline is the the stage-constructing witch (alias: Walpurgisnacht / real name: unknown); her nature is helplessness. She symbolizes the fool who continuously spins in circles. The witch's mysteries have been handed down through the course of history; her appellation is "Walpurgisnacht." She will continue to rotate aimlessly throughout the world until she completely changes the whole of this age into a drama. When the doll's usual upside-down position reaches the top part of the witch, she completely roils the civilization on the ground in a flash through her gale-like flight.
Unnamed familiar that looks like magical girls are the stage-constructing witch's minions. Their duty is to be clowns. Countless souls drawn to her vast magical power. Nobody knows whether Walpurgisnacht was initially a single person, or if it was a phantom born from the gathering of many spirits.
Unnamed familiar that looks like they are doing parade are Minions of the witch of stage constructions. (Bluenose) Witch minions that appear alongside catastrophes brought about by the giant witch known as “Walpurgisnacht”. They pull the ropes connected to Walpurgisnacht’s neck as she floats in the sky, forming a circus troupe and conducting a parade. All the members of the troupe are thought to be Walpurgisnacht’s minions, but many facts of the matter are still unclear. Some documents refer to the ones riding four-legged beasts as “Bluenose,” and the red-and-black creatures with long ears as “Rednose”. Unlike the aggressive, shadow-like minions that appear at the same time, these minions will not attack unless you obstruct their parade. Rather than attempting to fight them, it’d be much more advisable to flee as fast as possible.
This was beautiful
In our world, Walpurgisnacht is a date, rather than a person - It's Saint Walpurgis Night, also known as Beltane or May Day. It's originally a pagan holiday welcoming the turn of the seasons, celebrated with bonfires and parties and, ah, fertility related activities. When the church claimed the date for Saint Walpurgis, they declared that everybody getting together to party were witches, so Walpurgisnacht was a night when all the witches gathered together.
As Madoka visits the magical girls of the past, their silhouettes disappear from among the familiars.
Walpurgisnacht is also a congregation of witches.
I hope in the new movie we can learn more who Walpurgisnacht was as a magical girl. And if she represents helplessness I'm sure her backstory will be messed up!
A sequel/new arc? It exists, it's called the Rebellion Movie (aka, the 3rd movie. the 1st 2 movies are just a remake of the original series with minor differences that are easily ignored). If you also want a side-story about other Magical Girls, then that would be "Magia Record".
If you liked this show you gotta watch Revolutionary Girl Utena- so much symbolism and epic swordfights to go along with it! Both sub and dub are actually available right on UA-cam in playlists from the studio that made it. (I would recommend the dub personally)
In Homura's defense truck kun has a pretty good KDA
truck-kun probably has the highest KDA of an anime character(dont count wiping humanity from earth) thanks to the massive amount of isekai's out there
6:48 Prometheus was a titan, not a god. That's part of the reason that Zeus punished him so harshly - most of the titans tried to kill the gods, after all. Prometheus was one of the good ones, but Zeus viewed it as a betrayal when he gave humans fire.
This was written by your inner Greek mythology kid wasn’t it? (Don’t worry I was one too)
@@meeeg7029 nothing inner abt it, lol. i LOVE mythology. (pjo has not helped this at all.)
Titans ARE gods. The classifications are Olympians and Titans. Plus others that are in neither group
I believe what Danny was getting at here was whether or not Kyubey was the Madoka Magica's version of prometheus. And it does make sense, since prometheus is merely an allegory to human's first step into using knowledge and technology. And in this world Kyubey implies that without their race, humanity would not have propelled forwards in that direction.
@@humourlessjester3584 no, i get that, it just bugged me a little.
I love how your experience of this anime went from: "this is not up my alley at all, to "this is my favorite show of all time." The visuals and the soundtrack are absolutely exquisite and it was a treat to be able to see you experience it.
the twist that madokas a chosen one because HOMURA chose her is just fantastic
Time for Madoka Magica Rebellion movie, and, maybe Magia Record!
Don't forget, there's the Rebellion movie, which Nick hasn't seen either if I remember correctly. And, there's the new movie that was announced a year ago.
The Kyubey species doesn't remember witches, as far as they know, only the wrathes exist because Madoka changed the way they collect despair for energy. Watch the movie and side story!
20:45 “ ungreatful little basterd” LOL
"Bittersweet and horrible and beautiful" is such a perfect way to describe the ending.
While there are no season 2, there is a sequel movie (Rebellion). As for historical magical girls, one of the spin off manga is about Jeanne d'Arc as a magical girl. Also the mobile game Magia Record also explored more the concept (though that's less accessible as the english version was short lived and didn't even get close to that point).
There is also a Madoka Magica movie Rebellion!!!
Please watch it!!!
It is very important for the story, especially when you are fresh after watching the show
"Who told this teacher she was a character?" 😂😂
16:40 the Movie "Rebellion" continues the main series. and another Movie "Rising" is supposed to release this year
there is also the Magia Record anime.. however it's apparently it's own universe..
when tasked to make a Mobile/Gacha Game using the Magica IP they wrote a story for it. that apparently was popular enough to warrant 3 seasons. it's apperently finished. but if the Mobile game continues i could see the anime continuing
it basically got the Fate/Grand Order treatment
Danny, there's three movies - two recap movies and one sequel - multiple manga and video game installments, and a spin off anime. There IS a giant franchise that spawned from this anime!
Edit: also Danny you have to watch the sequel movie. You HAVE to watch rebellion, its so good, trust me.
I think the best part of madoka magica is that it touches on a darker aspect of the magical girl genre and has a beautiful art style and way of storytelling and made a overall amazing bittersweet ending that truly shows that sometimes hope can still persevere even when it seems hopeless to have any to begin with.
What makes it even better is that it doesn't "betray" what the magical girl genre is. It might be darker and a bit tragic than some other magical girl series, but it still holds on to those same core beliefs. That love and hope can and will save the world, it might hurt, and you might bleed, but it's still worth believing in.
The other funny thing is that apparently magical girl stories can get dark and frequently do. Puella Magi Madoka Magica is just making that dark side prevalent.
I know you can't show FULL reactions here, but I did wish you show the line when Madoka said, "Now grant my wish incubator!" That line always gives me the chills because of the authority in Madoka's voice! Also the music in that scene is one of my favs in anime, it's so amazing!
This anime was so formative that the ending theme still gives me shivers
I love that the Rebellion sequel was announced just before Danny started reactions to Madoka, can’t wait for that one because for once, we will all be together in the pain
Finally, now witness Homuras’ selfish love.
and selfess. it's both
@@juniper1350Nah it’s definitely shelfish
@@juniper1350 considering what happens in the sequel movie it’s more selfish than anything 😭
And she was so right for that
@@the_only_crow1036It's not selfish. She is actually fulfilling Madoka's true wish behind her God of the Universe persona she was inclined to assume to help people, without expecting anything from Madoka in return
i think the way they use the intro an outro between these last 2 episodes is genius. it makes it seem like its Homura singing about saving Madoka, while the ending seems like its Madoka telling Homura that she was destined to become a magical girl no matter what Homura or anyone else did to stop her. thats why you see Madoka running to that light while passing all her friends along the way and even Homura at the end trying to stop her.
cant wait for his excitement when he learns that this is not in fact the end and theres the movie, rebellion OH HE'S GONNA LOSE IT
Madoka is nothing less than a masterpiece, and one of my personal favorite anime of all time. And while it deserves to be remembered for its darkness, it also has a sense of hope and optimism for it like all good magical girl shows should have. Despite everything Madoka never stopped wanting the best for her friends and the other girls, that despite everything Homura never gave in to despiar and would repeat a hundred thousand times to keep Madoka safe. That Madoka ulimately decided the only way to truly save them was the change the system that lead them to their fates and she would make sure nobody else ever had to hurt like that again and restore what a magical girl is supposed to be
I adore this series, and not a single anime that's tried to copy has come close to matching, including its own spin-off/sequel Magia Record. Rebellion is close but we're still waiting for the next part.
A true classic.
Look, I'm not saying Madoka has become a Valkyrie(s) for a magical girls, but I'm not _not_ saying it.
Also Homura deciding to give this new universe a shot and even tolerating one white-tailed alien!
Her afterlife is more Buddhist than Norse. Nirvana, not Valhalla.
I know, I know! It is fun to see parallels between them, though.
There was always this emphasis on how magical girls' fight is never done, and valkyries carried the people who died honourable death in battle, so I thought it was a neat little parallel, even though probably unintentional ;)
Honestly, I love the writing of this story along with the soundtrack. In fact, the Soundtrack is what I became most obsessed with right away. It slaps so hard. And the fact that things in this story have logic (even if twisted) behind it such as why Madoka is somehow the 'chosen one' or the purpose of the soul gems or why the Incubator race does what it does. I also really loved the Witches and their dungeons. Its sort of like the concept of labyrinths/dungeons/palaces in Persona. The witch's labyrinths are all based on the witch/magical girl that houses them. Shoot, when you realize that Charlotte, the witch of the cake/candy/hospital/medicine themed labyrinth made a wish for cake in exchange for her magic powers...and then you have Mami telling Madoka to wish for a cake...is so inherently messed up. The lore really is something when you start analyzing the witches.
As for the ending, I feel like its not a good ending. Its a hopeful ending. And in a series all about Despair vs Hope...It's kinda perfect. Madoka's wish created a universe where Magical Girls will still die for their wish, yes...but they won't suffer and become witches that cause more despair. They now have a sort of afterlife/valhalla style place to go to in the end.
Anyway, You should definitely check out the movies. Specially Rebellion.
On the FMA: Brotherhood finale I commented how Danny was just now watching some series that many folks would consider classics/staples. In the previous Madoka Magica video Danny talked about how he feels he's only been watching good shows on the channel recently. These two things are, of course, related! Danny *also* said recently that while he's been enjoying the quick 12-ish episode anime he's been watching lately, he does like having some longer series that will provide content for months. With all this in mind... I have a recommendation 👀 Steins;Gate
Steins;Gate is from the same era as the recent bangers Danny's been enjoying. It's sci-fi that still feels mostly grounded, with more of a focus on the characters and emotional stakes rather than zany anime bullshit. It has an incredibly tense and gripping narrative. The English VA is great, which I bring up since Danny seems to always opt for dub over sub for reactions. There are just shy of 50 episodes (and a movie) so it can provide greater content longevity without being something like a triple-digit episode count commitment. I have no way of knowing if it'll fit with the channel's viewer demographic, but I've seen reactions for the show perform well on other channels so it could also do so here. Overall I just think that Danny would really enjoy the series and could potentially have some great reactions as the series progresses 😄 No spoilers though 😉
"And now the show's just straight up like... 'How's this, huh?? CIRCUS ENOUGH FOR YA?!?'"😂
3:15 Oh, I forgot to explain Madoka's mom's advice, THAT's what I was wanting to comment on a prior video lol
Um, so basically, she's saying it's easier to get back up from mistakes and setbacks as a kid than as an adult, because WAY more people rely on you and you can absolutely ruin your life and others' if you fuck up even a little. Fuck ups as a kid have a LOT less stakes tied to them, and learning as a kid because of fuck ups is BETTER because then you know by the time you reach adulthood what NOT to do.
And trust me, that's a lesson I learned the hard way instead - fucked up as an adult, effectively reset the trajectory of my life and can't get over it.
Kids recover way faster than adults do and they USUALLY have a good support system, whereas adults are kind of up the creek without a paddle because they have responsibilities and control of their life now. No good support system is going to reset the setbacks from losing your job or getting divorced or having an unwanted child, etc. The stakes are maximized.
Speaking as a former kid with no support system and a lot of messed up crap, this is a load of nonsense. The age isn't what makes mistakes ok, it's the severity of what you do. Watch a kid make a mistake that costs them their quality of life or their life entirely and see how ridiculous it is to say that childhood fuckups have a lot less stakes. A kid is one crossing a street without looking away from dying or being messed up for life.
@@pastelmusic409 I mean that's cool and all bro but I did say most kids have support systems, not every kid. I am in fact one of those too.
Adults can cross the street without looking so like that example doesn't quite fit as a kid-exclusive fuckup.
I don't know how to tell you this but kids don't cause fuckups that lead to major life changes as a regular thing. Adults, however? Even seemingly little things like getting into a fight with a friend can be a major source of issues in your life, and for those who rely on you.
Regardless I am just explaining what Madoka's mom was trying to say. That mistakes are easier and better to learn from as a child so you can deal with them better as an adult. It wasn't just drunken bullshit spitting, she actually had a point she was trying to convey. To be honest, I blame the writers because it wasn't clear to me for a good while either. I think I actually had to hear the same advice from another form of media to get it lol
@@DamiesEvilTwin Learn to summarize. That is literally 2 times almost 3 the amount I said to you. I am entirely disinterested in your ridiculous lecture on how you think you're right that kids can make mistakes with few consequences. That simply is not the case. Even for kids with support systems, age is not what determines the severity of consequences.
@@pastelmusic409 BRo if you're so disinterested then why the fuck are you even here
@pastelmusic409 i mean kids can make mistakes with terrible consequences but usually these choices aren't easily acessible for them
Like a kid spending all their money on impulse would just be empty pocketed for a while, and idealy the parent would still provide their basic needs
Now an adult spending all their money, credit card, getting a big loan just on impulse, that has catastrophic consequences, they will pass hunger, can lose their house, get indebted for the rest of their life, and that without considering if they have kids to take care of
Kids mistakes usually are more silly ones and don't have heavy consequences, the opition to make fuck ups like adults is not something most kids have, kids can't have credit cards, drink alchool(idealy) or just take a car or plane to go whatever, and usually their not responsible for sustaning neither themselfs or anyone else
Also because these mistakes are usually low stake it's easier to forgive/forget/move on, wich is why it's easier to learn like this instead of as an adult where it can have permanent consequences or you can be heavilly blamed/reponsabilized
Not saying kids can't make choices that ruin their lifes, but normally this isn't the case
this is a show that deserves a second watch through. It feels like an entirely different show having the context of what Homura is going through from the start and it's so good. thank you for sharing your journey with this show, glad you fell in love with it the way you did.
The patreon plug was really funny, laughed out loud at “9 out of 10 dentists recommend Danny’s Patreon” it caught my attention and I rewatched to read them all, it definitely sold the bit for me XD Great video as always!
I’m pretty sure the form we see Kyubei in isnt its true form, its just a form it takes to lure people in
almost like an Angler Fish, but instead of light, it lures with cuteness
Funfact: That is not kyuubi real form. it's just a puppet, that's why when homeara shot him, he came back we dont know how looks
What's fascinating is.. it could Actually be a living body. As The entity states a society that has individuals with Emotions is; to their understanding of the universe; vastly impossible without intervention. Thus It could be that each of the Kyubbeis are actual individuals of the race, but they have a Amalgamation like Hive mind. Their physical bodies are actual bodies, but to them they are so disjointed from it that they are puppets to themselves.
4:50 Fun aside but there are forms of animal husbandry that isn't factory farming... where this chicken is given a full nice farm to enjoy, free of predators.
And where instead of the chickens' unfertilized eggs being left rotten somewhere in the woods, they're taken away so the farmer can both feed him and his and sell the excess for extra profits.
Most animals, on average, live far longer in captivity than in the wild.
Tangent commentary out.
Danny went through an entire mahou shoujo appriciation arc of his own during the reaction of the whole 12 episodes, was beautiful to watch.
With rebellion and a new movie on the way, his madoka experience is very smooth compared to a lot of us, who had to wait between 10 years.
The wording of the wish is extremely important, Madoka saved magical girls, past present, and future, but that does not include witches. Even when they win, it's never in full.
I was thoroughly unprepared for you to call out the different types of magical girls we saw in Madoka's montage 😂
The ultimate irony, beyond being the cause of Madoka’s power, homura’s “weapon” is a shield. So she has no real offensive power capable of being able to defeat super potent witches.
Like imagine that the higher level witch has resistance to normal weapons.
I desperately need him to watch the rebellion movie. I need to him to react to the twist and all of the amazing BS that happens. Its my favorite thing
23:40 "but this is so like the beginning of a new arc" oh Danny you have no idea
Recommendation:
Erased, 12 episodes. (They have a .5 episode that's just a recap of what happened so far midway.)
Premise: Satoru has some ability called rewind. He jumps back in time by 5 minutes to try and prevent whatever happened from happening. Until one event happens, when rewind kicks in instead of jumping back 5 minutes, he jumps back 18 years to try and prevent it.
It was so weird. I adored it but it was so weird lmao
manga vol. 1 -> anime from 2nd ep to before the ending -> manga or the Netflix version
Bro would collapse at future diary
danny its been so fun re-experiencing this series with you. I actually forgot how open ended it was! But defo give rebellion a watch bc that last shot WILL be explained.
madoka was such a mentally tarnishing anime
This is what if Witch form of Homura if she runs out of magic or falls into despair like Sayaka. We only have the name of the witch so I created a possible description based on the side material of the series. This is based on the doppel description in the side story Magia Record with just a few words change.
Glasses version of Homura witch form:
Homulilly the Mortal World Witch. Her nature is closed circuit. The witch loops through time in an endless cycle of trial-and-error. The witch's skin becomes glass, and her expression freezes into that of a doll. She launches volley after volley of attacks that only end when her target falls silent. In this way she is more like a Witch than other Witches. Not only can she can manipulate the sands of time, but she can pluck information of low importance from the alien lifeforms on her hat and create anything around the level of an earthly weapon by solidifying the sand.
Homura after she ditches her braid and glasses:
Homulilly the Mortal World Witch. Her nature is Karma. The witch visits many worlds in search of an exit, spinning giant threads of fate. Fourteen incomplete bodies born from emotion trail behind the witch's body, which has almost completely transformed into glass. In order to achieve their mission, these 14 bodies work methodically and tirelessly to remove obstacles. Regardless of their will, they weave the threads of fate, which become tangled in ever more complex patterns, driving her yet further into a maze, the exit of which can hardly be found. These bodies of emotion have no names.
He needs to watch rebellion it expands on the story alot and its amazing
Not the patreon plug lowkey being the funniest part of the video 😂 “I suck disease” lmaooo
This isn't the conclusion, now you HAVE TO watch Madoka Rebellion to see where the story is going. Also 100% agree with you, this series is an easy 11/10.
You should watch the rebellion movie next! It continues the story in a really interesting way
God, I've loved this series. It's not always that it feels like a reactor fully understands PMMM, but when one does it's wonderful. Now I have to say: watch Rebellion. It's an incredible movie and the Madoka experience *really* isn't complete without it. Plus, there's another movie, Walpurgisnacht Rising, coming this year, which follows on from Rebellion, and god damn I can't wait. We've been left hanging for TEN FUCKING YEARS
Yall see the edit where it was madoka saying "i become a magical girl to save the world" than it was homura saying "i become a magical girl to save my world" BROKEE ME.
There are 2 movies made to recap the first season, a thrid movie named rebellion and theres a series named magica record (new madoka magica movie dropping winter 2024 too)