I’m new to this and I find these everywhere. Never have I been told or shown these. I’m in Louisiana and we don’t have big rocks, at least on the surface, so all the findings I find are small. Im enjoying watching and learning from your videos. Thank you.
Great to hear your viewpoint. Well done, keep them coming! When I think about it it’s not that far-fetched to believe that we were carving on rocks considering we didn’t have paper… We didn’t have cameras and we obviously as human beings today have a need for pictures and records of our past. Thank you for your upload!
The ancient people were very intuitive toolmakers and they made things that we can hardly imagine let alone the very obvious art that looks just like these! Great eyes!
....................yes.................can you imagine that with the craftmanship shown in stool tools............the awesome art with wood............that would have been made with these tools...................i feel that most of my collection are wood working tools
Nice video , thanks ... I do show and explain on my channel different tools ( My thoughts , conclusions) . Yes those are tools they used . The curved tools you show , speak of are a "type" of scraper tool . They would use such for debarking , whittling wood and I possibly see it slso being used too remove meats from bone ... They are made in ALL sizes ... Just my take / understanding on the subject . Thank you sir & hope all is finding you well...
You are observing the sad side of archeology. Now they look at the projectile point with a main focus leaving other tools such as scrappers on the sidelines. Any stone piece found within a site or dig is considered an artifact. The thing is most DO NOT recognize Rock art as being human agency. Most of what you and I see , they don't! OR don't admit to it mainly bc they don't know or understand how much of the art is done. Also an important reason why the points are always in the lime light is bc throughout each time period throughout history and regions, the points are made in ways that are distinct. Therefore when digging and finding points, they are compared to groups of others with the similar structure. Thier very specific according to time in history. So for archeologist thier like a clock.
.........Amy..............i would like to hope...that you understand....that there is much the stones can tell us....if we don't focus on only one tool.....and make that the first chapter in the stone tool making....the points...were the main focus of this video.....but that was the first step backwards..............................walk this path with me this morning...........let's go back 1.3 million years............and think about the accepted information that is being told....about the tool making skills of that time....................archelogy folks can date the hand axe to 1.3 million years ....beautiful tool...cute.....very popular with the media....shows great in published articles of the time of discovery ..............can now find many videos on u tube showing how they are being made.....or....they think they were made......therein lies the problem....modern made hand axes are produced...with byflacking preplanned to create the finish item..........................................until a few thousand years ago all tools were mostly uniface ..............in my first video....i explained how uniface tools come about............i also show how hand axes are the natural product of this method....that the hand axe is the long part of the heartstone.............so a 1.3 million year old had axe means those folks knew very well how to make many stone tools..................but as with arrow heads now........the hand axe was latched on as the tell all of the ancient days........leaving out so much more
There’s a lot more of us that are seeing it in these rocks. Hell I recently created a UA-cam channel because I’m finding things I can’t explain. But I’ve interacted with a few people since I created my channel and I like to believe that a resurgence will happen. History repeats itself, people will soon start wondering what else they did with rocks besides points and axes and they will stumble across our community (that I didn’t create just got accepted in I think?) and videos and will hopefully see what we see so more people can go out breaking their backs hauling badass story rocks back to their truck. :) I like to think.
Rock Art exists,to that I have NO DOUBT. The way they played light and shadows is amazing. It took me several years to even begin to see the beauty in it. Watching the pieces individually by 1 stationary candle light by its side at night was my form of entertainment. I lived off grid little over 30years no electricity TV or running water. I even found an insitu set of buried quartzite stone tablets by accident. There's so much artwork on them it can overload your brain trying to figure out what your looking at. I believe it's something like the Troxler effect. I've even found they liked fossilized crystallized ammonids which made bighorn sheep heads with art in the curls. I believe this ancient form of rock art was the way they sometimes communicated with others.
................i truly have not tried viewing with other light sources......but i will...........thank you for your comment........i will try making a video with candlelight...
.......................Robin..............i have thought about your comment for weeks now.....and will try to find the words this morning.....30 years you said...........if this is true......you must speak of this......or at least whisper.... ................i found the word recently that describes my study....it's title is anthropology......studying people...what they may have done and thought...............i have questions...that require simple answers.......( not philosophy )....................................only one that lived it.....would have the proper incites to explain it.....
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 My memory is very short term (disability). When smart phones with internet first came out,living the way I did I needed it for emergency communication and weather radar. While searching the internet for history of this area where I lived,I came across an article about this area. Researching Osage IndiansThe timeline was during the french occupation central plains. There was 1 French army man Major DeBourmont that came down through Missouri and Kansas with Indian guides. In the area of what is now known as El Dorado State Park Kansas he had his guide ask the indigenous people that were here where they came from. Their answer was, they were from the Sea of The Sun. Everything around here began to make a little more sense to me. I had met a gentleman who was born and raised up on a farm where El Dorado Lake now sits. His ancestors settled here homesteaders before Kansas became a State. In his college years he participated in an archeological dig before they made the lake. It was a burial site of a princess?,that dated back to the archaic period. They found alot of artifacts (I imagion Rock Art)laying around where she laid. That time period was around 2000 B.C.e.
Great video! They also rarely show you the impact tools. Hammerstones obviously, but mostly the weapons. I find more weapons than anything and evidence on excavated skulls show that bludgeoning was the name of the game for stone age people
I totally agree with you, many people focus on the obvious items, the highly created arrows and adzes mostly, there are so many more to their tools. I have found a lot of items here in the UK, many of which I have filmed on my channel, many of these are very basic in appearance. I have showcased abrasion tools on my channel too. I may have made the odd mistake in some of my findings, but I have enjoyed every find and learning about them as I have gone along 😊 I enjoyed your video
I have found several portable rock art of North American lion with full mane , mammoth, camel, giant beaver , and some things that look like dinosaur heads out here in the gravel pit . This gravel pit was dug back in the 1800s to make roads with so it's 30 feet deep which boggles my mind as to when it was all carved. It had to be over 17,000 years ago . I even found what appears to be a neanderthal face on one rock . The Smithsonian would probably we all just slip quietly into the night without the truth about ancient man's carving skills and artistic expression than to give credit where it is due ! . . This collection out here in the gravel pit is so vast I can't even put it into a building so I will be busy for the rest of my life trying to interpret what the artists meant . I can't find a rock that wasn't tampered with .
Keep on Keeping on Mr RLJ. Don't let anyone discourage you or bring u down either. Some Folks just don't see it cause don't want too by looking at Stones. I appreciate what you do, cause like said Folks don't see what we can see n Stones. I suppose when I was kiddo my grandmother got me n to Stones and u keep on Inspiring me more too. It's all Written n Stone : the Good the Bad & someones LIFE STORY there fer Anyone to Read if Only they Take Time too. Nature Freedom Dreams.
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 3^D Imagery. Natives Mastered that many Moons Ago. N Darkness and Shadows by Moon light and Campfire. Good and Evil written n Stone Always. Nature Freedom Dreams.
I have one tool that has a suspended eyeball. It is held by two protruding stones, top and bottom. The black center rock even has a facet carved into it that reflects light. I don't know how they did it, but I think the cortex being softer when first mined has a lot to do with it.
I have many tools that are nearly identical to yours. Here’s my question. Many tools are clearly identified for what they could do, such as cutting, grinding, etc., but it seems little is known about what was cut or what was ground. For example, I have many cutting tools of all shapes and sizes. I suspect many were used in butchering and hide processing, but given the wide variety I’d like to know something more specific. Used in hide processing how??? Alas, I don’t know enough about the daily tasks of Native Americans to answer my questions. Any thoughts?
@@brucedawson6991 my thoughts are that any family group would have to have tools to do everything that they do fishing hunting making clothes making food storage processing food all the stuff that we do except that they were using stone tools I like to imagine a happy friendly life for a group of these people and they had everything that they needed to make them comfortable and safe
I would say a 3d printer is used to make rocks. As you know there are plenty of rocks that look like birds, elephants, snakes, etc. So how can a 5 "" rock look exactly like a 50' boulder. We can't make sense of it, I don't try. I just enjoy picking up a bird rock, then looking up the canyon and seeing this exact rock as a 50 foot boulder. Know what I mean?
One item really peeked my interest, a gray stone bust, left facing near the bottom. I wonder if it is a Dino combo, as I have the same config here in the UK. The bust although human like also seems to lack a chin, please share some pictures of it on my figure stone forum so we can have a proper look
....i will show it on a future video....thank you for your interest...and your subscription.....i don't know what dino combo means............................but...i plan to show examples of large birds ( i call thunderbirds ).....that are on stones that have the feel and look of very very old stone tools....they seem older for some reason...i will show....but...what the image show on these few....is a much longer neck on the bird...and a bit different wing shape....otherwise pretty much the same thunderbird look......i can only speculate that it was showing a prehistoric bird.....i will show
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 Thanks, I've been doing this a long time and probably have the worlds best assemblage of figurative flint blade tools from a small site in southern England. As for Dino combo, many such items are clever 'ambiguous optical illusions' meaning multiple figrative images are combined. Some of these combos are repeatedly used, either because they are easy to combine or through tradition. I have a left facing bust, which is not to disimilar to that one of yours, the cheek of the bust has a whole elephant figure, and the head/hair line as the head of a dinosaur. Wondering if yours is a similar combo.
I have started this journey myself. I agree with all your saying. Where are they??? Not many museums in my area but I find everything your talking about. Edit: I’m just right across the border from ya. The very NE of OK
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 i started fishing, fish would be slow on the bite so I’d start looking at the rocks and I started to see things my dad would tell me about in these rocks (which I’d call him crazy) until I really sat down and listened to him tell me all his knowledge of rocks. He used to only find points for years and never thought about these rocks were finding. It wasn’t but a year or two ago he started finding the effigies and he helped push me in it.
My friend, no human created the stones for if they did If then humanity has devolved into an ibismal state. Crystal is glassy and shatters under abrasion yet I have found examples of tiny images too small for the unaided eye to see. Full portraits with eye inflections. No stone tool that I can find could do this fine work. There is something else going on we have missed. Vibration possibly or frequency even magic and alcamy could be involved. All I know is that stone on stone did not produce the images I am finding. That said I am no closer to writing the book on this the stones are too fluid and change constantly. Liquid Crystal?
@@paleomountainman9824 you are full of non wisdom, and it shows in every post. How many actual artifacts do you have in your posession? I have HUNDREDS and all full of faces.
@@sierratreasure7812 yours are the best I can't argue with that. What wisdom are you referring to I am confused. Explain what I am missing. Surfs like myself need teachers like yourself to help us see your vision of the world. How is your world going by the way. Explain yourself son.
@ Paleo Mountain Man...yes, some of what we have found here MOST DEFINITELY involved the use of alchemy and magic...while I certainly believe human beings have severely devolved due to the degradation of our species by The Controllers of this Realm, I believe there was a time when we would have been capable of creating these artifacts, but ONLY thru the use of supernatural powers we have no knowledge of today.
Those type of tools have been found and documented,unfortunately those u have are natural sedimentary rocks,and the wrong type of material,also lacking the cutting edge,, natural stones
I’m new to this and I find these everywhere. Never have I been told or shown these. I’m in Louisiana and we don’t have big rocks, at least on the surface, so all the findings I find are small. Im enjoying watching and learning from your videos. Thank you.
@@themama3633 I would love to see what you're finding
I agree 100 percent.love the angle that u approach this subject..awesome
Great to hear your viewpoint. Well done, keep them coming! When I think about it it’s not that far-fetched to believe that we were carving on rocks considering we didn’t have paper… We didn’t have cameras and we obviously as human beings today have a need for pictures and records of our past. Thank you for your upload!
..............how far in the past do you feel that rock art goes
The ancient people were very intuitive toolmakers and they made things that we can hardly imagine let alone the very obvious art that looks just like these! Great eyes!
....................yes.................can you imagine that with the craftmanship shown in stool tools............the awesome art with wood............that would have been made with these tools...................i feel that most of my collection are wood working tools
Nice video , thanks ... I do show and explain on my channel different tools ( My thoughts , conclusions) . Yes those are tools they used . The curved tools you show , speak of are a "type" of scraper tool . They would use such for debarking , whittling wood and I possibly see it slso being used too remove meats from bone ... They are made in ALL sizes ... Just my take / understanding on the subject . Thank you sir & hope all is finding you well...
You are observing the sad side of archeology. Now they look at the projectile point with a main focus leaving other tools such as scrappers on the sidelines. Any stone piece found within a site or dig is considered an artifact. The thing is most DO NOT recognize Rock art as being human agency. Most of what you and I see , they don't! OR don't admit to it mainly bc they don't know or understand how much of the art is done. Also an important reason why the points are always in the lime light is bc throughout each time period throughout history and regions, the points are made in ways that are distinct. Therefore when digging and finding points, they are compared to groups of others with the similar structure. Thier very specific according to time in history. So for archeologist thier like a clock.
.........Amy..............i would like to hope...that you understand....that there is much the stones can tell us....if we don't focus on only one tool.....and make that the first chapter in the stone tool making....the points...were the main focus of this video.....but that was the first step backwards..............................walk this path with me this morning...........let's go back 1.3 million years............and think about the accepted information that is being told....about the tool making skills of that time....................archelogy folks can date the hand axe to 1.3 million years ....beautiful tool...cute.....very popular with the media....shows great in published articles of the time of discovery ..............can now find many videos on u tube showing how they are being made.....or....they think they were made......therein lies the problem....modern made hand axes are produced...with byflacking preplanned to create the finish item..........................................until a few thousand years ago all tools were mostly uniface ..............in my first video....i explained how uniface tools come about............i also show how hand axes are the natural product of this method....that the hand axe is the long part of the heartstone.............so a 1.3 million year old had axe means those folks knew very well how to make many stone tools..................but as with arrow heads now........the hand axe was latched on as the tell all of the ancient days........leaving out so much more
There’s a lot more of us that are seeing it in these rocks. Hell I recently created a UA-cam channel because I’m finding things I can’t explain. But I’ve interacted with a few people since I created my channel and I like to believe that a resurgence will happen. History repeats itself, people will soon start wondering what else they did with rocks besides points and axes and they will stumble across our community (that I didn’t create just got accepted in I think?) and videos and will hopefully see what we see so more people can go out breaking their backs hauling badass story rocks back to their truck. :)
I like to think.
Rock Art exists,to that I have NO DOUBT. The way they played light and shadows is amazing. It took me several years to even begin to see the beauty in it. Watching the pieces individually by 1 stationary candle light by its side at night was my form of entertainment. I lived off grid little over 30years no electricity TV or running water. I even found an insitu set of buried quartzite stone tablets by accident. There's so much artwork on them it can overload your brain trying to figure out what your looking at. I believe it's something like the Troxler effect. I've even found they liked fossilized crystallized ammonids which made bighorn sheep heads with art in the curls. I believe this ancient form of rock art was the way they sometimes communicated with others.
................i truly have not tried viewing with other light sources......but i will...........thank you for your comment........i will try making a video with candlelight...
.......................Robin..............i have thought about your comment for weeks now.....and will try to find the words this morning.....30 years you said...........if this is true......you must speak of this......or at least whisper.... ................i found the word recently that describes my study....it's title is anthropology......studying people...what they may have done and thought...............i have questions...that require simple answers.......( not philosophy )....................................only one that lived it.....would have the proper incites to explain it.....
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 My memory is very short term (disability). When smart phones with internet first came out,living the way I did I needed it for emergency communication and weather radar.
While searching the internet for history of this area where I lived,I came across an article about this area. Researching Osage IndiansThe timeline was during the french occupation central plains. There was 1 French army man Major DeBourmont that came down through Missouri and Kansas with Indian guides. In the area of what is now known as El Dorado State Park Kansas he had his guide ask the indigenous people that were here where they came from. Their answer was, they were from the Sea of The Sun. Everything around here began to make a little more sense to me.
I had met a gentleman who was born and raised up on a farm where El Dorado Lake now sits. His ancestors settled here homesteaders before Kansas became a State. In his college years he participated in an archeological dig before they made the lake. It was a burial site of a princess?,that dated back to the archaic period. They found alot of artifacts (I imagion Rock Art)laying around where she laid. That time period was around 2000 B.C.e.
Great video! They also rarely show you the impact tools. Hammerstones obviously, but mostly the weapons. I find more weapons than anything and evidence on excavated skulls show that bludgeoning was the name of the game for stone age people
I totally agree with you, many people focus on the obvious items, the highly created arrows and adzes mostly, there are so many more to their tools. I have found a lot of items here in the UK, many of which I have filmed on my channel, many of these are very basic in appearance. I have showcased abrasion tools on my channel too.
I may have made the odd mistake in some of my findings, but I have enjoyed every find and learning about them as I have gone along 😊 I enjoyed your video
......i am watching...and enjoying your channel...smiles
I have found several portable rock art of North American lion with full mane , mammoth, camel, giant beaver , and some things that look like dinosaur heads out here in the gravel pit . This gravel pit was dug back in the 1800s to make roads with so it's 30 feet deep which boggles my mind as to when it was all carved. It had to be over 17,000 years ago . I even found what appears to be a neanderthal face on one rock . The Smithsonian would probably we all just slip quietly into the night without the truth about ancient man's carving skills and artistic expression than to give credit where it is due ! . . This collection out here in the gravel pit is so vast I can't even put it into a building so I will be busy for the rest of my life trying to interpret what the artists meant . I can't find a rock that wasn't tampered with .
So awsome,,I have found so many of these also,I have figured out alot about them something's that nobody has mentioned yet ,,
Keep on Keeping on Mr RLJ. Don't let anyone discourage you or bring u down either. Some Folks just don't see it cause don't want too by looking at Stones. I appreciate what you do, cause like said Folks don't see what we can see n Stones. I suppose when I was kiddo my grandmother got me n to Stones and u keep on Inspiring me more too.
It's all Written n Stone : the Good the Bad & someones LIFE STORY there fer Anyone to Read if Only they Take Time too.
Nature Freedom Dreams.
............brian.....will read my reply to Amy.....and give me your thoughts
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 3^D Imagery. Natives Mastered that many Moons Ago. N Darkness and Shadows by Moon light and Campfire. Good and Evil written n Stone Always.
Nature Freedom Dreams.
I have one tool that has a suspended eyeball. It is held by two protruding stones, top and bottom. The black center rock even has a facet carved into it that reflects light. I don't know how they did it, but I think the cortex being softer when first mined has a lot to do with it.
I would love to see that piece! Thier level of skill is amazing...thier use of light and shadow...wow!
I have many tools that are nearly identical to yours. Here’s my question. Many tools are clearly identified for what they could do, such as cutting, grinding, etc., but it seems little is known about what was cut or what was ground. For example, I have many cutting tools of all shapes and sizes. I suspect many were used in butchering and hide processing, but given the wide variety I’d like to know something more specific. Used in hide processing how??? Alas, I don’t know enough about the daily tasks of Native Americans to answer my questions. Any thoughts?
@@brucedawson6991 my thoughts are that any family group would have to have tools to do everything that they do fishing hunting making clothes making food storage processing food all the stuff that we do except that they were using stone tools I like to imagine a happy friendly life for a group of these people and they had everything that they needed to make them comfortable and safe
YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF
I would say a 3d printer is used to make rocks.
As you know there are plenty of rocks that look like birds, elephants, snakes, etc.
So how can a 5 "" rock look exactly like a 50' boulder. We can't make sense of it, I don't try. I just enjoy picking up a bird rock, then looking up the canyon and seeing this exact rock as a 50 foot boulder.
Know what I mean?
Fractals.
One item really peeked my interest, a gray stone bust, left facing near the bottom. I wonder if it is a Dino combo, as I have the same config here in the UK. The bust although human like also seems to lack a chin, please share some pictures of it on my figure stone forum so we can have a proper look
....i will show it on a future video....thank you for your interest...and your subscription.....i don't know what dino combo means............................but...i plan to show examples of large birds ( i call thunderbirds ).....that are on stones that have the feel and look of very very old stone tools....they seem older for some reason...i will show....but...what the image show on these few....is a much longer neck on the bird...and a bit different wing shape....otherwise pretty much the same thunderbird look......i can only speculate that it was showing a prehistoric bird.....i will show
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 Thanks, I've been doing this a long time and probably have the worlds best assemblage of figurative flint blade tools from a small site in southern England. As for Dino combo, many such items are clever 'ambiguous optical illusions' meaning multiple figrative images are combined. Some of these combos are repeatedly used, either because they are easy to combine or through tradition. I have a left facing bust, which is not to disimilar to that one of yours, the cheek of the bust has a whole elephant figure, and the head/hair line as the head of a dinosaur. Wondering if yours is a similar combo.
I have started this journey myself. I agree with all your saying. Where are they??? Not many museums in my area but I find everything your talking about.
Edit: I’m just right across the border from ya. The very NE of OK
I like the word you used .....Journey.... :-) ....could you tell me more about yourself and your interest in the Stone.....:-)
@@rljatfrogpondschool7283 i started fishing, fish would be slow on the bite so I’d start looking at the rocks and I started to see things my dad would tell me about in these rocks (which I’d call him crazy) until I really sat down and listened to him tell me all his knowledge of rocks. He used to only find points for years and never thought about these rocks were finding. It wasn’t but a year or two ago he started finding the effigies and he helped push me in it.
Looks like some pictures on some of the rocks.
My friend, no human created the stones for if they did If then humanity has devolved into an ibismal state. Crystal is glassy and shatters under abrasion yet I have found examples of tiny images too small for the unaided eye to see. Full portraits with eye inflections. No stone tool that I can find could do this fine work. There is something else going on we have missed. Vibration possibly or frequency even magic and alcamy could be involved. All I know is that stone on stone did not produce the images I am finding. That said I am no closer to writing the book on this the stones are too fluid and change constantly. Liquid Crystal?
@@sierratreasure7812 I'm still laughing! When you get over yourself and start producing videos you won't sound so much like a troll. Love ya!
@@paleomountainman9824 you are full of non wisdom, and it shows in every post. How many actual artifacts do you have in your posession? I have HUNDREDS and all full of faces.
@@sierratreasure7812 yours are the best I can't argue with that. What wisdom are you referring to I am confused. Explain what I am missing. Surfs like myself need teachers like yourself to help us see your vision of the world. How is your world going by the way. Explain yourself son.
@ Paleo Mountain Man...yes, some of what we have found here MOST DEFINITELY involved the use of alchemy and magic...while I certainly believe human beings have severely devolved due to the degradation of our species by The Controllers of this Realm, I believe there was a time when we would have been capable of creating these artifacts, but ONLY thru the use of supernatural powers we have no knowledge of today.
@@mlmiller6 IQ is a sticky subject we are all bound to it.
Those type of tools have been found and documented,unfortunately those u have are natural sedimentary rocks,and the wrong type of material,also lacking the cutting edge,, natural stones
You sound convinced. How do you know this?
Don't be misinformed by this.