@@DailyLifeSolution Those sound like a great evolution of Rotary. I’m just wondering if it’s enough to survive in this increasingly electric environment vehicles. Time will tell..
@@davidmccarthy6061 Rotaries have the potential to be excellent and viable modern engines. But they have a stigma around the which prevents people from trusting them anymore. Same with 2 stroke engines as well
@William Arrington So one of the things in the past that was a negative to the rotary was that it burned oil and it didn't get good gas mileage wondering how that fits in with the EV kind of clean energy car future.
But diesel engines are significantly more efficient, make significantly more torque for driving torque happy generators (unless they figured out some advantage of making lower torque, higher rpm generators). The main question I have is why did they even bother making the range extender a rotary engine? It most definitely was not for efficiency because if it were, everyone else would be using rotary engines for their range extenders. Was it to try and sway some of their rotary loyalist fans to buy these cars? Highly unlikely because what made the rotary engine so unique is the way that it feels to drice. The rotary engine now is just an extra weight being dragged around in an orherwise souless vehicle.
@@quickcooper61 you missed the whole reasons why Felix Wankel even proposed the rotary engine. It's small, lightweight and has virtually no vibrations. It's perfect for being used as a small range extender, albeit an underwhelming usage.
imagine rolling down your road at half 2 in the morning in your electric car , only to realise you forgot to charge it and hear BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP
I would love for that to be true, but the braps comes from overlap of the intake and exhaust. A classic method to help improve high-end power at a large cut to fuel usage, but for a usage like this the only reason I see anyone porting the engine like that would be exclusively for the sound.
I predict rotary engines will make a comeback when hydrogen fuel becomes more mainstream. Piston engines are tricky to run on hydrogen, Rotary engines run great on hydrogen by design because there are little to no hotspots.
aye brother, until hydrogen is as plentiful here on earth as it is in space, Hydrogen fuel will have trouble taking off. The hardest thing with it is the expensive fueling stations, and heavy in car equipment compared to the power output. Hydrogen fuel efficiency however is wicked and Mazda has proven this with an rx-8 before.
A guy made a peanut rotary in a dorito housing. Apex seals are on the housing. I hope that design takes off because it may greatly reduce the wear of apex being on the house instead of the piston dorito
I literally cannot wait for this mx30. I'm going to wait it out to see if we get a more sporty rotary hybrid but this mx30 is probably the first new car I'll buy
I’m just spitballin’ here but as well as what we see from their presentation slides, the new extender will also have a higher compression for their SkyActiv system. Possibly close to 15:1 and requiring higher octane, which the customer base don’t mind as Mazda is now kinda boutique compared to others. Though, I really hope Mazda puts out so many of these puppies for the masses, because I really want to see ported intakes and exhausts on a 16X. It will have a deeper brap due to the larger displacement, and couple that with a good exhaust setup I’m probably gonna nut hearing those.
If these are the rumored 330cc displacement, a quad rotor config would be equivalent displacement to a standard 13b..... just sayin' . Need e-shaft and intermediate plates tho.
Same, a hybrid sports car with a rotary engine, especially if they implemented skyactiv technology to improve the rotary's efficiency will be a holy grail, great performance and extreme efficiency.
I really like how Mazda is bringing the rotary engine back but with a twist because I think it can serve a purpose with the multiple power trains especially being paired up with an electric motor. I'm really excited with what Mazda is doing and I think they're going to be the most exciting car company in the next five years!!!
PHEV would work for the transition period for apartment/condo residences that can't charge at home. I think it will be at least 5 years before there are enough level 2 plugs in common areas.
I feel like there was someone at Mazda who REALLY liked the RX8 and tried his hardest to make a tribute that would work in today's car climate. The half-suicide doors, rotary engine... I'm glad someone didn't give up on the dorito!
mazda will never stop trying with their rotary, the rotary engine means something to them, they rotary is pretty much what put mazda on the map the rotary brought them a lot of success, it is a symbol of their uniqueness and innovation, and seeing how companies (like porsche, bmw, and toyota) are trying to make synthetic fuels that are supposed to be carbon neutral, we could maybe also see a fully rotary powered sportscar in the future
@@DailyLifeSolution its an interesting engine for sure, but i think mazda might stick to their more traditional rotary design, it originally didn't have too many issues, the rx8 and the fd rx7 were the ones who gave the rotary its bad reputation
I think the thing people should keep in mind is it’s most likely going to be a micro engine that operates at set RPMs. After all they are after efficiency/power/size.
As much as the BEV fanboiz want to cry, the reality is that hybrids are the best option for America for the next 20 years. It takes a long time to build out wide infrastructure here. Someday, every gas station and highway rest stop will have charging stations, but until then, a hybrid gives us lower emissions, and they can still be sporty!
@@PigMCplayer, hydrogen has the same infrastructure problem as charging stations, but I am not entirely sure if you can have a Hydrogen hybrid. Hydrogen fuel cell as the range extender?
@@PigMCplayer The problem with that is that it still requires electricity to produce hydrogen. Whether that electricity comes from solar, wind, or hyrdro. It still requires electricity to produce hydrogen. The building themselves, still have carbon footprint, the way its transported (to refill stations) still has carbon footprint. If you go watch Engineering Explained. He goes into detail on why hydrogen, is still less efficient than battery powered vehicles. I'm in favor of the hybrid idea. Still have the engine, while also having assisted range. If done correctly can be sporty as well.
@@ChadWilson He probably means hydrogen fuel cell and battery. Hydrogen vehicles have a buffer battery anyway meaning they are series hybrids but a plug-in or range extender would be interesting. It would definitely solve the problem of infrastructure. If Toyota could make a Mirai Plug-in they should.
It isn't 2010 anymore. Battery costs have fallen 90%, and continue to fall. Range extenders in light vehicles is pointless. Mazda needs to cut their losses and move on. The rotary engine is dead, D-E-D dead.
Back in the 1970's as an idealistic young man I had high hopes for the rotary engine. I recall looking eagerly forward to the rotary engine AMC Pacer. But my hopes were dashed when I met a fellow who worked at a Mazda rotary engine rebuild facility, who explained to me why they had such a short life span in gory detail. I'm pushing geezer status now, some 50 years later and I refuse to raise my hopes of ever seeing a truly functional and competitive rotary engine in my lifetime. This is just a new generation of rotary engine to disappoint a new generation of unsuspecting car owners. And I'm not putting down any rotary fan boys... you guys who own rotary engines, know exactly what you are getting into and I respect your courage.
@@H0L0DREAM I think I've seen it, along with a few other spins on the idea. In my mind, the issues always comes down to the seals. Yes the old boing boing engines have lots of inefficiencies, but at least piston rings aren't one of them. Basically, the rotary engine is a 2 dimensional engine in a 3 dimensional world.
When rotary engine is used for generator (at range extender), it will be perfect. Reliability issue won't be a big issue because the engine is de-coupled from wheels.
Ive never heared anyone say that ans im so so surprised Mazda havent done it. If I had the resources id make the Apex seals from Titanium and id install Dual Oil Coolers and have a twin scroll turbo with an extra large wastegate. Titanium is used in basics like exhausts so there no exuses regarding material availability. Apex seals fairly small parts and for sure pleny of raw materials to have. It would be worthwhile even if it rasies the cost of producing and retailing the product. Also The Rotary engine is a very serious bit of kit so more then worthy of staying in production. MAZDA PLEASE GIVE US A NEW RX7 WITH UP TO DATE COMPONENTS THE CAR IS TOO BEAUTIFUL AND TOO MUCH POTENTIAL TO LOOSE. MAZDA WANA MAKE MONEY OR GO BUST.....? MAKE US A RX7 SUCCESSOR WITH A SOLID ROTARY ENGINE WITH TITANIUM APEX SEALS AND DUAL OIL COOLERS PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm really confused about plug I'm hybrids and mild hybridd So is it not like a Prius where it uses both ICE and battery? Do you need to charge your plug in? But it's a hybrid so why would you plug it in?
Mild Hybrid - Driven by the engine with minor assistance of a motor. Hybrid - Driven by a motor/engine or both combined (depends on manufacturer) Plug in Hybrid - a Hybrid with a bigger battery that can be charged by a cable. (You can still drive it without plugging it in at all and it will behave just like a normal Hybrid) EV with extender - driven by an electric motor. Engine is used only for on-board generation of electricity.
I'd never buy an EV because there's not enough infrastructure where I live to make it viable for anything but commuting. But a hybrid as long as it's not to terribly boring or slow would be perfect. Really when it comes to polluting hybrids have gotten so good filling up every 2-3 weeks is fantastic
It is definitely going to end up being like the nsx if it comes out. People say they want a name old car remade until they get an old car made into a new car
Can you do some digging on new cx5? Apparently I heard from the dealership that new Mazda cx5 will have a shared platform with corolla cross suv and similar in size. There will be separate cx50 that will be much bigger competing with x3 and so on.
Yeah some really strange information coming out in regards to the vehicle from Alabama. Hybrid crossover, and it could totally be the next cx5, but not sure if it will be as small as Corolla cross.
So happy to see, I hadn't been following any of this but just bought a barn find FD that I'm trying to make some videos out of. If you're ever around the NY metro area and want to check it out, I'd be more than happy to have you!
Good video, but dude, turn your mic gain down a bit or back off the mic! Just starting to overload whatever preamp it's going into and somewhat distracting.
Question for the community, My lease on the 2019 mazda 6 is due next year. I love the car and I'm open to buying it but I like leasing too. Do I take the chance on one of the new car's that mazda will release next year or just extent my lease a year so that the new car and there bugs are figure out by 2023?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I’ve been here for 9 years, and I pay attention to all of the internal Mazda dealer emails (mostly because I check the amount of times I get the email before it’s up on Reddit), and the most recent still alludes to a 2023 release. We also got this for the diesel in the US starting in 2014 and CarPlay in 2016, so I don’t have a massive amount of faith in them 😂. I love Mazda’s cars, but everything they do that isn’t a physical car (especially communication) is hot garbage
@@sandervanderkammen9230 mazda wasn’t a part of that at all. They released their diesel in the US after all that, and only for one year in 2019. Not one Mazda skyactiv D got caught up in the diesel scandal. The diesel was discontinued due to low demand, nothing else. We couldn’t give those things away.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 there have been so many other advancements with the liquid rotary outside of Mazda, and they’re not super forthcoming on R&D until they’re actually doing it. They’ve been talking about the straight 6 skyactiv G for years and we’re only just getting the official announcement now that they’re ready to put it in the 2023 Mazda 6 RWD
@@sandervanderkammen9230 in the hopes the censors don’t delete this one for links, that claim was made by emissionsDOTcoDOTuk, a self described group of “compensation solicitors” (ambulance chasers), and was reported by the Guardian based on their claims alone. Mazda has not been found at fault by any regulatory agency nor ordered to pay any money. How are you defining “worst offenders”?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Mazda’s board of directors in may of 2009 were made up largely of Ford execs, they’re a different board and company altogether after the divorce. The idea that they’d try to bring it back isn’t that far fetched, particularly given just how much they’ve been talking about it the last 2 years
What Mazda should've done is follow in the footsteps of the Big Three; license a Ute from Ford Australia and stick the rotary in it, strap seats in the back to classify it as a civilian vehicle to avoid the chicken tax, and then remove the seats to classify the vehicle as a 'light truck' to avoid (or at least get much more lenient) emissions regulations.
So I think the question on my mind is is this a two rotor setup that we're going for and have they solved the Apex seals and water jacket situation? Also you would now have to introduce premix into the equation I'm assuming
The renesis (RX-8) has pretty much solved the apex seals... But the water jacket is still the failure point after 150k kms check this tear down of an old one ua-cam.com/video/vKVeunBygbY/v-deo.html Reckons the apex seals could be re-used!
Lol! Yeah, he was complaining in one vid about how his butane torches keep going missing... Good how he uses his buzz to find out stuff. Like how good the renesis apex seals are and how the water jacket is the weak link on high mileage motors.
Meh, there's way more tragic $#!+ in the world than a dude who h the cash for rotary race cars and recreational drugs... Atleast it's not affecting his work... Yet... ua-cam.com/video/p8aulstjbV8/v-deo.html But we digress... That RX8 motor went back together with the old apex seals that have done 100k miles (ish?) And it ran... But for how long... Hopefully they'll put up more videos of the car at some stage... But that seems like Mazda have now got piston-ring-like reliability and longevity from the apex seals... Though I own a 1973 mini here which has had the same piston rings for over 30 years... But only 30hp. ua-cam.com/video/kqeHzqXbVcM/v-deo.html
Needs AWD for me to even consider it. Or, you could make it be like the Honda insight was, and go for that ultra efficient route. That said, and it pains me to say this, but I really doubt the efficiency gains/size and weight reductions will offset the fact that no one will want to work on the thing....
They should put it in the NE model miata instead of a full electric miata but still would be a dope idea for a full electric Miata first drift track car off the lot
Rotary engines are a novelty. They dont work in a production car setting. Too many drawbacks and special requirements for main stream use. In a low use racing application they can be fun. But thats about it
Making engine only as a generator for batteries is really genius! This is a big step for PHEV! Only thing disappointing is it needs more batteries & it'll be perfect. The emissions going to be way better because the load is going to be on the electric motors The hybrid one that driven by both engine & motor should be stopped because it's useless
This UA-cam video is Entirely Clickbait, Old news, Disclosed by mazda a while ago. In order to keep the Rotary engine around the best bet is to only sell it in race car crates (which are not limitied by emissions standards and thus do not have to be choked). They are great race engines cuz the rpms can be kept high, but The EPA killed them, RIP
I bet you can put this engine in something like an Austin 7, a Fiat Topolino, or early Fiat 500. Unbolt it from the generator, get an adapter plate made, bolt it up to a Suzuki Cappuccino transmission and tune the arse off of it. You might be able to put it in a motorbike, scooter, go kart, boat or microlight.
If there is no transmission connecting this engine to the wheels, it's not a rotary car. And before you say it's 'unviable', 'inefficient', whatever, I know. No need to remind me. But if a rotary engine is not powering the wheels, then why even get hyped for it? Why pretend that it's in any way related to the Cosmos, 787s and RX-7s of the past, and will share any kind of driving characteristics with them?
the more of us that actually make really simple rotary engine Vehicles the more Mazda is going to start producing them and honestly I really do think that if hydrogen is a really cool fuel for it well then let's go with it what the hell.
Ok so my name is actually PJ too and my dream car is an RX7... So when Kirk pulled up that pic of an RX7 owned by another PJ, I literally screamed out loud that I'm going to buy a RX7 one day.
@@JB-sv5pr nah the biggest thing is to know what your getting into, bought my fd for 23k and spent 36k just to get it running good and performing how I want.
So complicated for what? A constant output Dorito not mechanically attached to the wheels... A minescule battery pack... All the emissions stuff. Seems overbaked to me. Rotary for a mx5 speed. BEV for electric. Skyactiv x for efficient gas burners. That is the obvious way forward
Oh god. Please dont put the rotary in CUVs. The average person doesnt want to deal with that kind of bullshit and its just going to give rotary an even worse name. Most people cant be bothered to check their fluids. Unless they somehow made it less maintenance that just isn't a motor for the average person. This motor really doesnt make sense (to me at least) for a non-enthusiast vehicle, since they're the only people asking for it.
I think they should do a AWD Rx7. Front wheels powered by electric motor and rear wheels powered by a rotory engine. They can keep fuel tank small, less stress on engine. I also think it should have eco mode that only drives front wheels, power save mode that only drives rear wheels and race mode which powers all wheels. That is what I think they should try.
At this point I’m not believing anything about the new rotary until I see it.
Right I agree with you its been canceled twenty times.
all die hard rotary fans will believe it when we see it
mazda 787-b hahah
Yea
See it til you believe it.
Rotary’s last stand… charging batteries. What a somber send off.
What do you think about liquidpiston rotory engine?
@@DailyLifeSolution Those sound like a great evolution of Rotary. I’m just wondering if it’s enough to survive in this increasingly electric environment vehicles. Time will tell..
Hear the brap brap while charging the batteries xD haha
@@MisterMiyada I hope rotory will survive.
Maybe it will become batteries charging the rotary? 🤔😩
Mazda needs to make a rx9 RIGHT NOW before their design language changes.
Totally agree. Their concept RX a few years back looked hot.
@@TheG60528XiJinPing Looked like modern day FD RX-7.
The RX9 uses an Inline 6, which pisses me off because RX stands for Rotary eXperiment.
@@soramikami4383 Do you want I6 RX 9 or none at all?
@@Doman9191 I'd rather none at all. Make this new car something else. I'm hoping that an RX-10 could have a hydrogen rotary though
Cant wait for people to take the rotary out the car and put it in a miata or something😂
There is hope!
Rotary kart can be so cool 🤩
Mazda AZ-1 would be the perfect candidate.
If it becomes a current engine in Mazda’s line up, you should be able to buy the whole engine from Mazda too.
But its just a generator, have fun making a transmission
A rotary engine That isn't connected to the wheels really isn't that exciting.
But it is the only way rotary would be viable in these modern times.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Rotaries have the potential to be excellent and viable modern engines. But they have a stigma around the which prevents people from trusting them anymore. Same with 2 stroke engines as well
@William Arrington So one of the things in the past that was a negative to the rotary was that it burned oil and it didn't get good gas mileage wondering how that fits in with the EV kind of clean energy car future.
I hear you, but it's the right way to do things in a hybrid... to have both electric and mechanical drive systems is just plain stupid!
IT IS you can rotery swap a miata with a NEW ROTERY !!!!
We need diversity. Rotaries, opposed pistons, a bit of everything.
don't forget the camless (throttleless) !
oppsed piston is for trucks, big SUVs (weight - 2 cranks)
liquidpiston rotory
@@DailyLifeSolution Liquid Piston and the Achates Power Opposed Piston are things that I _so_ want to see in my lifetime
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@@NoorquackerInd I hope internal combustion engine will improve and we will not have all electric vehicles.
Tbh the rotary as a range extender makes perfect sense, it's small, light, smooth
And with it being just a support it will last longer
But diesel engines are significantly more efficient, make significantly more torque for driving torque happy generators (unless they figured out some advantage of making lower torque, higher rpm generators). The main question I have is why did they even bother making the range extender a rotary engine? It most definitely was not for efficiency because if it were, everyone else would be using rotary engines for their range extenders. Was it to try and sway some of their rotary loyalist fans to buy these cars? Highly unlikely because what made the rotary engine so unique is the way that it feels to drice. The rotary engine now is just an extra weight being dragged around in an orherwise souless vehicle.
@@quickcooper61 it's small, light & simple
@@quickcooper61 its because Mazda dont want to stop using the rotary just yet.
I can't wait to port the range extender Rotary and tell me another 13b type for the U S They are taken all the fun out
@@quickcooper61 you missed the whole reasons why Felix Wankel even proposed the rotary engine. It's small, lightweight and has virtually no vibrations. It's perfect for being used as a small range extender, albeit an underwhelming usage.
imagine rolling down your road at half 2 in the morning in your electric car
, only to realise you forgot to charge it and hear BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP
I would love for that to be true, but the braps comes from overlap of the intake and exhaust. A classic method to help improve high-end power at a large cut to fuel usage, but for a usage like this the only reason I see anyone porting the engine like that would be exclusively for the sound.
Unfortunately I don’t think anyone is going to be bridgeporting their generators
I predict rotary engines will make a comeback when hydrogen fuel becomes more mainstream. Piston engines are tricky to run on hydrogen, Rotary engines run great on hydrogen by design because there are little to no hotspots.
aye brother, until hydrogen is as plentiful here on earth as it is in space, Hydrogen fuel will have trouble taking off. The hardest thing with it is the expensive fueling stations, and heavy in car equipment compared to the power output. Hydrogen fuel efficiency however is wicked and Mazda has proven this with an rx-8 before.
@@vilmamir5654 They should just use methane pyrolysis to produce hydrogen. This would make hydrogen pretty cheap.
Yay the dorito engine is back!
Felix Wankel probably invented the Dorito form BEFORE the corn chip...
Yesss 🤩
But not the way we all know it 😢
@@jmccarsnmore1025 yes I miss the RX-7. ❤️
A guy made a peanut rotary in a dorito housing. Apex seals are on the housing. I hope that design takes off because it may greatly reduce the wear of apex being on the house instead of the piston dorito
Will be too expensive for it's perspective customers. For the love of god Mazda, GIVE US CRATE ENGINES.
They have crate engine lmao where you been?
@@jamfd3s788 no they do not.
@@felixwankel3989 yes they do lmao
Yep been doing crates of the REW for like 10 years. Costs 5400 as just a keg, and the tolerances are all over the place they say.
yep the tolerances are garbage ive heard but at least mazda is giving us new parts still.
I can't wait for people to abuse the rotary engine, then call the engines junk again
Probably won't be able to with this being secondary power, and with all our modern electronics.
Too bad its a generator and can't be redlined to 9000rpm
@@EvanAxer Someone will figure out how to do that!
Do you know it will be removable from the automobile!
May the spirit of my 91 FC make this a success.
S5 is kool but s4 is mo better :)
S4t2 street port for life !
I hope a rx8 replacement is coming because why not
I literally cannot wait for this mx30. I'm going to wait it out to see if we get a more sporty rotary hybrid but this mx30 is probably the first new car I'll buy
I'll just be trying to find a wrecked one for the motor
"The MX-30 R-EV with a Wankel engine as a range extender debuts at the Brussels Motor Show on January 13, 2023."
I’m just spitballin’ here but as well as what we see from their presentation slides, the new extender will also have a higher compression for their SkyActiv system. Possibly close to 15:1 and requiring higher octane, which the customer base don’t mind as Mazda is now kinda boutique compared to others.
Though, I really hope Mazda puts out so many of these puppies for the masses, because I really want to see ported intakes and exhausts on a 16X. It will have a deeper brap due to the larger displacement, and couple that with a good exhaust setup I’m probably gonna nut hearing those.
If these are the rumored 330cc displacement, a quad rotor config would be equivalent displacement to a standard 13b..... just sayin' . Need e-shaft and intermediate plates tho.
All I want is a hybrid rotary electric in a new rx sports car where they both work together to make huge power from both
Same, a hybrid sports car with a rotary engine, especially if they implemented skyactiv technology to improve the rotary's efficiency will be a holy grail, great performance and extreme efficiency.
I want to hear the bridgeported hybrid CX-30 start up in traffic.
bzzzzzzzzzzz
BRRRRRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP bzzzzzzzzzzzz
I really like how Mazda is bringing the rotary engine back but with a twist because I think it can serve a purpose with the multiple power trains especially being paired up with an electric motor. I'm really excited with what Mazda is doing and I think they're going to be the most exciting car company in the next five years!!!
If they do that yes!
*takes out electric engine
*directly connects Dorito Engine
*Let's go
PHEV would work for the transition period for apartment/condo residences that can't charge at home. I think it will be at least 5 years before there are enough level 2 plugs in common areas.
Doritos RISE!!!
I feel like there was someone at Mazda who REALLY liked the RX8 and tried his hardest to make a tribute that would work in today's car climate. The half-suicide doors, rotary engine... I'm glad someone didn't give up on the dorito!
So they basically pulled a Mitsubishi and turned their sports car into an SUV/crossover
@@tokirak miata ain't a suv
mazda will never stop trying with their rotary, the rotary engine means something to them, they rotary is pretty much what put mazda on the map the rotary brought them a lot of success, it is a symbol of their uniqueness and innovation, and seeing how companies (like porsche, bmw, and toyota) are trying to make synthetic fuels that are supposed to be carbon neutral, we could maybe also see a fully rotary powered sportscar in the future
What do you think about liquidpiston rotory engine?
@@DailyLifeSolution its an interesting engine for sure, but i think mazda might stick to their more traditional rotary design, it originally didn't have too many issues, the rx8 and the fd rx7 were the ones who gave the rotary its bad reputation
@@ogle_aiden2156 What's that? A UA-cam professional who actually knows the truth behind Rotary reliability and the causes for the myths? That's rare!
@@bluspectre2042 thank you, just spreading the truth about rotaries
I think the thing people should keep in mind is it’s most likely going to be a micro engine that operates at set RPMs. After all they are after efficiency/power/size.
Well I can imagine that somebody will swap it into another car and make it work. Probably nowhere near as good as we hope but it is something.
@@shintarouemiya 💯 Turbo Rotary motorcycle 😎
@@RESET1776 or gokart
@@shintarouemiya Use it in a shifter kart
Go back and check out the commercials from the 70s. The regulars engines go click, clack. The Mazda goes hummmmmmmmmmmm
As much as the BEV fanboiz want to cry, the reality is that hybrids are the best option for America for the next 20 years. It takes a long time to build out wide infrastructure here. Someday, every gas station and highway rest stop will have charging stations, but until then, a hybrid gives us lower emissions, and they can still be sporty!
hydrogen better 👎🤬 all the emissions will be cancelled out bc most of our energy comes from fossil fuels
@@PigMCplayer, hydrogen has the same infrastructure problem as charging stations, but I am not entirely sure if you can have a Hydrogen hybrid. Hydrogen fuel cell as the range extender?
@@ChadWilson spot on
@@PigMCplayer
The problem with that is that it still requires electricity to produce hydrogen. Whether that electricity comes from solar, wind, or hyrdro. It still requires electricity to produce hydrogen. The building themselves, still have carbon footprint, the way its transported (to refill stations) still has carbon footprint. If you go watch Engineering Explained. He goes into detail on why hydrogen, is still less efficient than battery powered vehicles. I'm in favor of the hybrid idea. Still have the engine, while also having assisted range. If done correctly can be sporty as well.
@@ChadWilson He probably means hydrogen fuel cell and battery. Hydrogen vehicles have a buffer battery anyway meaning they are series hybrids but a plug-in or range extender would be interesting. It would definitely solve the problem of infrastructure. If Toyota could make a Mirai Plug-in they should.
What ever happened to Mazda’s Skyactive X engine? Is that engine ever coming to the US?
Eventually?
Its a development engine for now
It isn't 2010 anymore. Battery costs have fallen 90%, and continue to fall. Range extenders in light vehicles is pointless. Mazda needs to cut their losses and move on. The rotary engine is dead, D-E-D dead.
100% would buy an mx30 plug-in with awd as my next car!
BRAAAAAP BRAPBRAPBRAP BRAAAAAAAP POW POW BANG BANG.
Charging stations are pretty much ubiquitous in California. So maybe Mazda will bring the range extender model to California?
Back in the 1970's as an idealistic young man I had high hopes for the rotary engine. I recall looking eagerly forward to the rotary engine AMC Pacer. But my hopes were dashed when I met a fellow who worked at a Mazda rotary engine rebuild facility, who explained to me why they had such a short life span in gory detail.
I'm pushing geezer status now, some 50 years later and I refuse to raise my hopes of ever seeing a truly functional and competitive rotary engine in my lifetime.
This is just a new generation of rotary engine to disappoint a new generation of unsuspecting car owners.
And I'm not putting down any rotary fan boys... you guys who own rotary engines, know exactly what you are getting into and I respect your courage.
Ever looked into Rob Dahm's work on rotary engines?
@@H0L0DREAM I think I've seen it, along with a few other spins on the idea. In my mind, the issues always comes down to the seals. Yes the old boing boing engines have lots of inefficiencies, but at least piston rings aren't one of them. Basically, the rotary engine is a 2 dimensional engine in a 3 dimensional world.
Oh boy, two expensive-to-replace and quick-to-wear-out technologies in one vehicle. At least it's great news for the repair shops 😃
When rotary engine is used for generator (at range extender), it will be perfect. Reliability issue won't be a big issue because the engine is de-coupled from wheels.
I wouldn't mind a mazda hybrid with a rotary in it. Really serious rotary performance could be possible. I think it would be sick
I was getting 50 miles per Australian gallon 4.4 liters from a 1993 1500cc Ford lazer 5 speed aka a 323 Mazda years ago
Something sounds off with your mic audio almost like it’s clipping or maybe the bass/lows are being over boosted?
Yeah I fixed it! See my more recent videos 😜
@@KirkKreifels cool glad you got it working I enjoy your vids man!
Just make the Apex seals out of titanium.
Job done!
Ive never heared anyone say that ans im so so surprised Mazda havent done it.
If I had the resources id make the Apex seals from Titanium and id install Dual Oil Coolers and have a twin scroll turbo with an extra large wastegate. Titanium is used in basics like exhausts so there no exuses regarding material availability.
Apex seals fairly small parts and for sure pleny of raw materials to have.
It would be worthwhile even if it rasies the cost of producing and retailing the product.
Also The Rotary engine is a very serious bit of kit so more then worthy of staying in production.
MAZDA PLEASE GIVE US A NEW RX7 WITH UP TO DATE COMPONENTS THE CAR IS TOO BEAUTIFUL AND TOO MUCH POTENTIAL TO LOOSE.
MAZDA WANA MAKE MONEY OR GO BUST.....?
MAKE US A RX7 SUCCESSOR WITH A SOLID ROTARY ENGINE WITH TITANIUM APEX SEALS AND DUAL OIL COOLERS PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR ME THE RX7 AND THE DODGE VIPER AND THE SKYLINE ARE THE BEST LOOKING CARS PERIOD!!!!!!
SMOOTH AND LONG AND SLEAK AND MEAN AND JUST PLAIN DELICIOUS
I'm really confused about plug I'm hybrids and mild hybridd
So is it not like a Prius where it uses both ICE and battery? Do you need to charge your plug in? But it's a hybrid so why would you plug it in?
Mild Hybrid - Driven by the engine with minor assistance of a motor.
Hybrid - Driven by a motor/engine or both combined (depends on manufacturer)
Plug in Hybrid - a Hybrid with a bigger battery that can be charged by a cable. (You can still drive it without plugging it in at all and it will behave just like a normal Hybrid)
EV with extender - driven by an electric motor. Engine is used only for on-board generation of electricity.
@@moonsapling thank you!
I'd never buy an EV because there's not enough infrastructure where I live to make it viable for anything but commuting. But a hybrid as long as it's not to terribly boring or slow would be perfect. Really when it comes to polluting hybrids have gotten so good filling up every 2-3 weeks is fantastic
@@HARaZAC agree with you! I am currently waiting and in 2040 when theres enough infrastructure I would probably get myself a fully electric Mazda 3.
@@moonsapling oh ya, but I'll still have my 1994 Miata as long as I can.
Mazda is extraordinary!!
It is definitely going to end up being like the nsx if it comes out. People say they want a name old car remade until they get an old car made into a new car
Me: so we are getting a rotary engine.
Mazda: Well yes but actually no.
Can you do some digging on new cx5? Apparently I heard from the dealership that new Mazda cx5 will have a shared platform with corolla cross suv and similar in size. There will be separate cx50 that will be much bigger competing with x3 and so on.
Yeah some really strange information coming out in regards to the vehicle from Alabama. Hybrid crossover, and it could totally be the next cx5, but not sure if it will be as small as Corolla cross.
Sweet RX-7 Bro! Keep that man!
So happy to see, I hadn't been following any of this but just bought a barn find FD that I'm trying to make some videos out of. If you're ever around the NY metro area and want to check it out, I'd be more than happy to have you!
Good video, but dude, turn your mic gain down a bit or back off the mic! Just starting to overload whatever preamp it's going into and somewhat distracting.
It's fixed 😉
Question for the community, My lease on the 2019 mazda 6 is due next year. I love the car and I'm open to buying it but I like leasing too. Do I take the chance on one of the new car's that mazda will release next year or just extent my lease a year so that the new car and there bugs are figure out by 2023?
I say extend if the warranty allows you.
Bring RX-7 & Millenia S back ❤️
Mazda is car brand for car guys even at these bad days for automotive :c
I work at a mazda dealership, and the current dealer announcement is that we’ll have the EV next month, with the gas extended coming in Q4 2023
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I’ve been here for 9 years, and I pay attention to all of the internal Mazda dealer emails (mostly because I check the amount of times I get the email before it’s up on Reddit), and the most recent still alludes to a 2023 release. We also got this for the diesel in the US starting in 2014 and CarPlay in 2016, so I don’t have a massive amount of faith in them 😂. I love Mazda’s cars, but everything they do that isn’t a physical car (especially communication) is hot garbage
@@sandervanderkammen9230 mazda wasn’t a part of that at all. They released their diesel in the US after all that, and only for one year in 2019. Not one Mazda skyactiv D got caught up in the diesel scandal. The diesel was discontinued due to low demand, nothing else. We couldn’t give those things away.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 there have been so many other advancements with the liquid rotary outside of Mazda, and they’re not super forthcoming on R&D until they’re actually doing it. They’ve been talking about the straight 6 skyactiv G for years and we’re only just getting the official announcement now that they’re ready to put it in the 2023 Mazda 6 RWD
@@sandervanderkammen9230 in the hopes the censors don’t delete this one for links, that claim was made by emissionsDOTcoDOTuk, a self described group of “compensation solicitors” (ambulance chasers), and was reported by the Guardian based on their claims alone. Mazda has not been found at fault by any regulatory agency nor ordered to pay any money. How are you defining “worst offenders”?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Mazda’s board of directors in may of 2009 were made up largely of Ford execs, they’re a different board and company altogether after the divorce. The idea that they’d try to bring it back isn’t that far fetched, particularly given just how much they’ve been talking about it the last 2 years
More interested in the "RX-9/MX-9"... Sounds like it's going to be a Straight-6?
That’s the Mazda6.
What Mazda should've done is follow in the footsteps of the Big Three; license a Ute from Ford Australia and stick the rotary in it, strap seats in the back to classify it as a civilian vehicle to avoid the chicken tax, and then remove the seats to classify the vehicle as a 'light truck' to avoid (or at least get much more lenient) emissions regulations.
If the rotary engines are coming back, fingers crossed the rx7's start to come down in price
Save the ( cheerleader )” I mean gas Naturally aspirated engine manual “❤️❤️❤️❤️
Anyone else praying we might get an RX-9
Hopefully the RWD CX-50 and Mazda60 will keep real buttons for clinate controls instead of going capacitive like what the MX-30 somewhat has
So I think the question on my mind is is this a two rotor setup that we're going for and have they solved the Apex seals and water jacket situation? Also you would now have to introduce premix into the equation I'm assuming
The renesis (RX-8) has pretty much solved the apex seals... But the water jacket is still the failure point after 150k kms check this tear down of an old one
ua-cam.com/video/vKVeunBygbY/v-deo.html
Reckons the apex seals could be re-used!
Lol! Yeah, he was complaining in one vid about how his butane torches keep going missing... Good how he uses his buzz to find out stuff. Like how good the renesis apex seals are and how the water jacket is the weak link on high mileage motors.
Nah... Gutted I missed it. Sounds hilarious! 😂
Meh, there's way more tragic $#!+ in the world than a dude who h the cash for rotary race cars and recreational drugs... Atleast it's not affecting his work... Yet...
ua-cam.com/video/p8aulstjbV8/v-deo.html
But we digress... That RX8 motor went back together with the old apex seals that have done 100k miles (ish?) And it ran... But for how long... Hopefully they'll put up more videos of the car at some stage... But that seems like Mazda have now got piston-ring-like reliability and longevity from the apex seals... Though I own a 1973 mini here which has had the same piston rings for over 30 years... But only 30hp.
ua-cam.com/video/kqeHzqXbVcM/v-deo.html
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I bet you'd be no fun at a party... Especially a cocaine and Adderall rotary building party.
Mazda is giving us the greatest suspense buildup of all time. This is just the testing phase
Needs AWD for me to even consider it. Or, you could make it be like the Honda insight was, and go for that ultra efficient route.
That said, and it pains me to say this, but I really doubt the efficiency gains/size and weight reductions will offset the fact that no one will want to work on the thing....
Rotary? Thats fake news...
"buT mUh eMmiSiOns"
These hippies are ruining cars
Rotaries are quite good for use as generators. Probably better than 3 cyl anyway.
They should put it in the NE model miata instead of a full electric miata but still would be a dope idea for a full electric Miata first drift track car off the lot
Rotary engines are a novelty. They dont work in a production car setting. Too many drawbacks and special requirements for main stream use. In a low use racing application they can be fun. But thats about it
Making engine only as a generator for batteries is really genius!
This is a big step for PHEV! Only thing disappointing is it needs more batteries & it'll be perfect.
The emissions going to be way better because the load is going to be on the electric motors
The hybrid one that driven by both engine & motor should be stopped because it's useless
The rotary already had direct injection from the secondary injectors since the mid 80s.
Cant wait to see what people use these small rotary engines in like gocarts!
wonder if they are going to go with the LiquidPiston design rotary?
That would be the smartest thing they could possibly do considering that the military is already using them as generators but I highly doubt it
Any new news of the GR corolla
This UA-cam video is Entirely Clickbait, Old news, Disclosed by mazda a while ago. In order to keep the Rotary engine around the best bet is to only sell it in race car crates (which are not limitied by emissions standards and thus do not have to be choked). They are great race engines cuz the rpms can be kept high, but The EPA killed them, RIP
Until I see this first hand i doubt we'll see Rotaries make a come back. Not without serious development on both engine and fuel side.
Just hope it's a reliable engine and not ending up at a machine shop to get it resurfaced.
I bet you can put this engine in something like an Austin 7, a Fiat Topolino, or early Fiat 500. Unbolt it from the generator, get an adapter plate made, bolt it up to a Suzuki Cappuccino transmission and tune the arse off of it. You might be able to put it in a motorbike, scooter, go kart, boat or microlight.
Put this combo and a stick in a new RX-7 to meet enviro regulations
If there is no transmission connecting this engine to the wheels, it's not a rotary car. And before you say it's 'unviable', 'inefficient', whatever, I know. No need to remind me. But if a rotary engine is not powering the wheels, then why even get hyped for it? Why pretend that it's in any way related to the Cosmos, 787s and RX-7s of the past, and will share any kind of driving characteristics with them?
Potential rx9 hybrid sports car?
Geez dude that poor mic is BLOWN OUT. You need to get your limiter and compressor in check, homie.
Watch my newer videos...it's great now
Miss my old RX-3...
the more of us that actually make really simple rotary engine Vehicles the more Mazda is going to start producing them and honestly I really do think that if hydrogen is a really cool fuel for it well then let's go with it what the hell.
Ok so my name is actually PJ too and my dream car is an RX7... So when Kirk pulled up that pic of an RX7 owned by another PJ, I literally screamed out loud that I'm going to buy a RX7 one day.
Lmao save your pennies for gas, oil and trailing/leading plugs ! & more money for cooling mods !
@@JB-sv5pr nah the biggest thing is to know what your getting into, bought my fd for 23k and spent 36k just to get it running good and performing how I want.
@@jamfd3s788 that’s any jdm car
@@JB-sv5pr no that's any car that's old lol, except rx7s have the "rotary tax" everything rotary-related is just inherently more expensive.
@@jamfd3s788 I’ve owned 3 rx7z and a rx8 I know the deal! That’s why I told homie to save for cooling mods and oil! Lmao
I would kill for a plug in hybrid Mazda 3, even though I know it's probably not gonna happen
Thanks @Kirk. Long live the rotary
Fully electric Mazda 3 when, please Mazda UwU
So it works similar to how a locomotives hybrid system works
i've seen a mx30 in bulgaria and i was wondering what it was. now i understand
We need Rotary and RX-9
Mazda the GOAT!
Hearing all that ev talk made me really realize that that’s all cars will be in a while no gas no engines nothing
If it does come out, it's not going to be anything like the 13b or 20b of old...
I really wish they would bring back the rew 😕
Please give us the rx9/rx vision we’ve waited so long!!!
dude fix your audio
A range extender is cool but it will never again be a performance engine again it seems.
So complicated for what? A constant output Dorito not mechanically attached to the wheels... A minescule battery pack... All the emissions stuff. Seems overbaked to me. Rotary for a mx5 speed. BEV for electric. Skyactiv x for efficient gas burners. That is the obvious way forward
Oh god. Please dont put the rotary in CUVs. The average person doesnt want to deal with that kind of bullshit and its just going to give rotary an even worse name. Most people cant be bothered to check their fluids. Unless they somehow made it less maintenance that just isn't a motor for the average person. This motor really doesnt make sense (to me at least) for a non-enthusiast vehicle, since they're the only people asking for it.
Awesome i love the rotary engine im glad to see it return
Yes!
I think they should do a AWD Rx7.
Front wheels powered by electric motor and rear wheels powered by a rotory engine.
They can keep fuel tank small, less stress on engine.
I also think it should have eco mode that only drives front wheels, power save mode that only drives rear wheels and race mode which powers all wheels.
That is what I think they should try.
I also think a rotor Mazda 3 with 2 doors would go well with this concept
Imagine to combat the new proto Z, Mazda puts a turbo rotors in a manual Miata. Tell me who wouldn’t buy that