7:29 I dont think that Broly was actually losing against Goku, just to think the amount of time for broly to go to be weaker than base Vegeta to be a little weaker than SSJB Gogeta. I probably think that if Broly countinued the fight against Goku, he will have probably surpassed him even if he was a SSJB. So i think that before Frieza called, he was actually a 100Quintillion already. 7:32 Goku wasnt like 110+ Quintillions during the Broly movie? How broly who was handled both Goku and Vegeta SSJB be 112Quintillions in SSJ? 9:04 and surely frieza after 10 Years of Training have passed to 660Trillions in super at 696 in the Granolah saga that is mathematically impossibile. Just calculing the amount of strenght Frieza got in 4 months of training with someone weaker than him like captain Ginyu. He have passed to 120M to 120T, He got 1M x in this little amount of time. Now i think that Frieza's potential to grow with the training is unlimitless and will always remain unchanged. So Imagine how strong he got by Not only training alone, but he trained in the time chamber (which gravity far highier than normal) for 10 Years non stop. So 10 years being 30 times his training so he tecnically got 30M, and with the Time chamber which gravity is 10 times greater than Earth's (i dont know if the planet which Frieza and his army was already 10x times greater than their planet, but lets dont count that) So Frieza have got 300Million of times stronger, which is 36Sextillion he got, and with the Golden form that is 1Million times base (just as SSJB) is 36Octillion, but the black form's multiplier is still unknown. Right?
@@Pr0tag-t9n i repeat, how can you know that if you have never seen a canonic fight between Black Frieza and Universal Blue Goku? Furthermore the Dragon ball heroes's power levels are all dumb. I get some example: Vegito SSJB is far stronger than MUI Goku, But against Base Cumber he have lost even using the Kaioken, But Goku MUI wins. Or SSJB Goku is = to SSJ4 Xeno Goku, But SSJB Kaioken Vegito cant defeat Base Cabba, But SSJ4 Xeno Gogeta (that should be equal to SSJB Vegito) wins against SSJ Cumber. that makes no sense
Okay but it's literally. obvious. If you look at the power levels it says universal blue goku beats frieza. and one thing is that universal blue goku beat fu in his strongest form. This goku who was keeping up with dark golden frieza in base. He was fighting alongside hearts in base and hearts was stated to rival the omni king. So obviously if goku transforms into universal blue hes destroying black frieza.
Power scaling Bog Goku ssg = 75 trillion Rof Goku ssg = 800 trillion Goku ssb = 40 quadrillion Universe 6 vs 7 Goku base = 4 billion Goku ssg = 4 quadrillion Goku ssb = 200 quadrillion Zamazu arc Goku base = 6 billion Goku ssb = 300 quadrillion Goku black rosa form manga = 5 quadrillion Goku black perfected rosa manga and anime ssr = 50 quadrillion Merge zamazu permanent god ki in base and ssj form access to rosa = 200 quadrillion Merge zamazu rosa = 10 quintillion Zeno expo Goku base = 16 billion Top arc Cabba ssj 2 = 4 billion as strong as Gohan ssj 2 and perfect cell Kamehameha clash Caulifla ssj 2 = 8 billion Goku base = 20 billion Goku ssj = 1 trillion Goku ssj 2 = 2 trillion Goku ssj 3 = 8 trillion Goku ssj 4 = 400 trillion Goku ssg = 10 quadrillion kale baserk ssj 2 = 24.999996 quadrillion Kefla base = 100 quadrillion Goku ssb = 500 quadrillion Kefla baserk ssj = 10 quintillion Kefla baserk ssj 2 anime = 20 quintillion Toppo hakiashin = 40 quintillion Kefla baserk ssj 2 peak = 50 quintillion anime and manga Vegeta ssbe self destruction = 80 quintillion Goku uio 1 = 1 sextillion Goku uio phase 2 = 1.25 sextillion Goku uio phase 3 = 1.5 sextillion Goku mui enraged anime = 80 sextillion Goku completed ultra instinct manga = 150 sextillion Jiren hidden form/super full power manga = 500 sextillion Jiren lb anime = 1 septillion Broly arc Goku base = 40 billion Moro arc post angelic training Goku base = 200 billion Goku ssj = 10 trillion Goku ssg = 200 quadrillion Goku ssb = 10 quintillion Sabgambo = 120 quintillion Because he was able to push back Goku perfect blue before he collapsed and reach his limit he much above that of toppo hakia and Vegeta ssbe self destruction at their peaks Goku pssb principles of ultra instinct vs sabgambo = 200 quintillion Vegeta ssbe = 1 sextillion Goku ssbe again = 10 sextillion Goku uio overwatch = 200 sextillion Goku pui emotionless state = 20 septillion Gohan base = 50 billion Gohan ssj = 2.5 trillion Gohan ssj 2 = 5 trillion Gohan ultimate = 25 trillion Gohan ultimate beyond limits = 100 trillion Gohan ultimate improve post top = 5 quadrillion Gohan ultimate Moro arc post broly movie training = 10 quadrillion Gohan ultimate post intense training Moro arc = 100 quadrillion That means Gohan scales twice above Goku blue in rof arc which place anime and manga Gohan much above top ssg tier according to anime where he scaled when he fought Goku before top started implied he almost on same level as he was against buutenks meaning he stronger then he even Buuhan Og73 with all z fighters abilities + moro abilities = 1 quintillion it be an epic fight with og73 vs granolah arc he train hard but fell behind Goku base = 4 trillion Goku base principles of ultra instinct = 8 trillion Goku base = 10 trillion Goku ssg = 4 quintillion Goku ssb = 200 quintillion Goku ssb ui anime vs granolah clone = 4 quintillion Goku pssb ui vs granolah clone = 2 sextillion Granolah clone peak = 5 sextillion Super hero arc preqaul scaling Alpha squad = 1-10 million Alpha 12 = 100 million Bata 1 far stronger then alpha squad different level of power = 1 billion Goten base begining of the arc = 9 billion Trunks base begining of the arc = 10 billion Bata 2 bottom half power split = 14.5 billion Bata 1 using top half power split = 15.5 billion Bata 2 by itself = 29 billion Bata 1 and 2 together = 30 billion Goten ssj beyond limits = 1.2 trillion Trunks ssj beyond limits = 1.25 trillion Goten and trunks ssj together = 5 trillion cyclone twist Thirst Optimize for power exceed doctor hedo other androids before gammas Dino droid 1 lost control of his power drain = 10 trillion Dino droid 1 control power = 100 trillion godly level threat much above ssg Goku universal level Super hero arc scaling Piccolo = 10 quadrillion Piccolo base post full potential unleash = 200 quadrillion Piccolo ultimate = 10 quintillion Gamma 1 and 2 = 50+ quintillion gamma 2 might be stronger then 1 Gohan ultimate = 100 quintillion Orange piccolo little extra from shenron boosting his power = 20 sextillion Post super hero aftermath reach level of the gods of destruction several leagues above normal level anime and manga super hero arc aftermath since they fought cell max and gotten lot weaker in super hero arc but much stronger after facing Goku and Vegeta and broly and Gohan and even train harder Goten base = 248 billion Trunks base = 250 billion Goten ssj = 12.4 trillion Trunks ssj = 12.5 trillion Goten ssj 2 hypercritical = 24.8 trillion Trunks ssj 2 hypercritical = 25 trillion Goten ssj 3 hypercritical = 99.8 trillion Trunks ssj 3 hypercritical = 100 trillion Goku base = 100 trillion Gotenks base hypercritical = 400 trillion Goku ssj = 5 quadrillion Goku ssj 2 = 10 quadrillion Gotenks ssj = 20 quadrillion Gotenks ssj 2 = 40 quadrillion Goku ssj 3 = 40 quadrillion Gotenks ssj 3 = 160 quadrillion Goku ssj 4 = 2 quintillion Gohan base heavily suppressed = 25 quintillion Goku ssg = 100 quintillion Goku ssb super hero arc = 5 sextillion Gohan base fp extent = 20 sextillion Goku pssb = 50 sextillion Goku cui enraged top anime = 80 sextillion Goku pui emotionless top manga = 150 sextillion Jiren hidden power top = 500 sextillion Gohan ssj = 1 septillion Vegeta ssbe = 500 sextillion Jiren limit breaker top = 1 septillion Gohan ultimate = 10 septillion Goku tuio = 10 septillion Vegeta ultra ego = 10 septillion Planet morus73 = 40 septillion Granolah middle aged adult form strongest attack = 110 septillion Gas elderly form = 200 septillion Gas zombie form = 400 septillion Gas zombie form enraged = 800 septillion Cell max weakened arm ripped peak baserker state = 1 octillion Goku pui = 1 octillion Gohan beast = 2 octillion Broly ssj control state = 2 octillion black freiza moving goalpost = 9 octillion Belmoth 10 octillion moving goalpost Broly lssj moving goalpost = ??? Beerus moving goalpost = ??? Enemy Goten and trunks face went from being namek saga freiza to battle of gods level threat Which means that bata 1 was 10× stronger then alpha squad But bata 2 exceed bata 1 and alpha squad as an upgrade being 29× stronger but combined together Thier even strong enough to give trunks some trouble together til trunks went ssj and Goten help him defeated bata 1 and 2 it crazy Dino droid was even strong enough to rival all top fighters much above Goku using ssg state in battle of gods So against Dino droid he scaled on battle of gods ssg tier At least he much above Goku and Vegeta base beginning of gt when it was 100 billion in base form Goten and trunks level of power estimated to be 2.5× stronger then Buuhan who 100 billion So Goten and trunks in gt era far stronger to the fact they train harder but took a break from training but trunks in end of gt about as powerful as trunks end of super hero arc at very least since Goten fell far behind trunks at this point but in super Thier more or less equal closer in strength after training with Goku and Vegeta and gohan and broly plus trunks much older then Goten too
Basically scaling Broly ssj control state=Gohan beast>Goku pui=cell max weakened arm ripped>gas zombie form>granola 2 red eye>planet morus73>Vegeta ultra ego=Goku true ultra instinct oman>Vegeta ssbe>Orange piccolo current>anime ssbkkx 20 or manga pssb ui>Goku pssb >Goku ssb>Granolah clone at his peak >Sabgambo>merge zamazu currupted form= Gamma 1 and 2 team up together=Goku ssg>kefla baserk ssj 2 top>toppo hakia top>merge zamazu anime and manga peak wise=hit time lag or time cage manga>Goku ssj 4>og73>merge zamazu base with permanent god ki>Gotenks ssj 3 hypercritical post super hero arc>kefla base top>dypso>aniaraza>Goku black rosa anime or manga perfected rosa form>purple Vegeta ssb>rof Goku blue=Gotenks ssj 2=Goku ssj 3>gotenks ssj>Vegeta ssj 2>Goku black rosa manga=Goku ssj>hypothetical Gotenks base post super hero arc>Dino droid 1 at his peak hero/super hero arc preqaul=current Goku base=Vegeta base>Goku ssg bog>trunks ssj>Goten ssj>trunks base>Goten base>andriod 18>krillin>tien >yancha>roshi Super hero really buff Goten and trunks to different level above several opponents from top arc in fact they would easily defeat multiple top fighters with Thier current power level they might give toppo a tougher fight then a rusty ssj surpress Gohan who trained after super hero arc Even kefla could easily win the fight since she needs base form to defeat Gotenks ssj 3 at this point but they could defeat Caulifla and kale by fusion ssj 3 at this point Which makes him at least pose a threat to kefla and toppo and hit and merge zamazu It be a good matchup for Gotenks to face og73 or Goku black ssj rosa since it would end up becoming an epic battle in combat We know Goten and trunks are Capable of handling lower tier godly opponents in Thier teen years Gotenks definitely strong al right But I wonder who will give Goten and trunks a difficult battle next strong enough for them to fuse incase super hero arc aftermath returns with 1 android strong enough to take on fuse fighter
@@henloisiyuNot really the power scaling does feel accute by far It stated by Gohan he almost on same level as he was against buutenks before he face his dad and before top started Goku asborbing god ki in anime was only a small boost of power and it doesn't push him much by far after facing Beerus even stated by toyotaro anime and manga more or less eqaul since even manga Goku asborb god ki in base Anime felt like a long development to grow stronger and improvement But the manga however asborb god ki which allow him to grow stronger too I watch the anime and saw the manga actually it makes clear how strong z fighters were Even in Moro arc Thier scaling to freiza level tier in namek saga Andriod 18 barely grow stronger after cell saga happen Current version of z fighters scaled higher in super hero arc now anime and manga scaling all over the place but each opponent Goku and the z fighters face are stronger then previous ones actually even so far Sabgambo and gammas and granolah clone and toppo hakia and kefla was strongest opponents they face before facing broly and Jiren and moro and granolah and gas Since they within a power up was so strong to the fact it even got z fighters no match for each one Tagoma is 300 million is future imperfect cell level when Ginyu was able to unlock his full potential he twice more powerful then shasami and catch him off guard against rusty Gohan base form But Gohan and the z fighters were exhausted form facing all of freiza army which explains why they struggle against tagoma and piccolo somewhat struggle against sashimi but piccolo capable of defeating him by himself since piccolo was confident enough to defeat him but Gohan was given the win only because movie budget for a long fight with tagoma was cut short at this point and the z fighters excluded piccolo and Gohan were completely no match for shasami or tagoma Even in top arc even top fighters were on par with Ginyu force at least lower tier top fighters some top fighters like kefla and toppo scale much above Goku black scaling around merge zamazu level of power since gap not far form where he stands even og73 with z fighters and moro abilities were scaled to be above them pose a formidable threat to broly movie Goku and Vegeta blue form which him twice above top arc Goku and Vegeta blue states individually may pose a threat to Jiren and hit and rest of top fighters that scale much above merge zamazu Sabgambo was much stronger then Goku perfect blue when they clash since he lack the proper control of Moro amping him up since Goku likely use Oman off manga panels when he was weakening sabgambo infront of the z fighters that Moro was able to keep up with his eyes So of course Moro was forcing sabgambo to reach Oman level by giving him as much power for Goku had to fight quickly dogde and block his attacks but once he reach his limit that punch stung Goku perfect blue using principles of ultra instinct that it push him back completely then collapsed on the battle field for reaching his limit Against granolah clone he definitely much above Oman 3 in top arc for keeping up with Goku perfect blue using principles of ultra instinct Goku did asborb god ki in uio and base form from reverse spirit bomb and uub god ki He did had long battle with Moro and granolah and gas since top arc was shorter paste together within a spam almost 45 minutes of fighting since z fighters was given more screen time against Thier opponents and manga too help give some screen time too Roshi = 110 million Yancha = 130 million Tien = 140 million Krillin = 160 million Andriod 18 = 300 million Goten = 248 billion Trunks ssj = 300 billion At this point even far Gotenks base form was able to crack cell max crystal Gammas are relatively strong enough to defeat Vegeta ssbe top by themselves even together they would defeat him at least much weaker then sabgambo but stronger then all top fighters excluding Jiren and moro and broly are definitely a match for Goku normal blue in granolah arc and definitely a match for perfect blue Goku in Moro saga Even so I think Goten and trunks were underestimated by far in anime and manga series
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Vegito vs Gogeta Power Levels ( All Forms )
Dragon Ball AF Ize Saga Power Levels
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Hold up, bro, did your voice change? I haven't watched you in a while so I'm curious as to why you sound different.
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@@henloisiyuThanks, dude.
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Ummm I think Freeza’s power level needs to be a bit higher than THAT at the granola saga. He’s trained for 10 years I mean come on.
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7:29 I dont think that Broly was actually losing against Goku, just to think the amount of time for broly to go to be weaker than base Vegeta to be a little weaker than SSJB Gogeta. I probably think that if Broly countinued the fight against Goku, he will have probably surpassed him even if he was a SSJB. So i think that before Frieza called, he was actually a 100Quintillion already.
7:32 Goku wasnt like 110+ Quintillions during the Broly movie? How broly who was handled both Goku and Vegeta SSJB be 112Quintillions in SSJ?
9:04 and surely frieza after 10 Years of Training have passed to 660Trillions in super at 696 in the Granolah saga that is mathematically impossibile. Just calculing the amount of strenght Frieza got in 4 months of training with someone weaker than him like captain Ginyu. He have passed to 120M to 120T, He got 1M x in this little amount of time. Now i think that Frieza's potential to grow with the training is unlimitless and will always remain unchanged. So Imagine how strong he got by Not only training alone, but he trained in the time chamber (which gravity far highier than normal) for 10 Years non stop.
So 10 years being 30 times his training so he tecnically got 30M, and with the Time chamber which gravity is 10 times greater than Earth's (i dont know if the planet which Frieza and his army was already 10x times greater than their planet, but lets dont count that) So Frieza have got 300Million of times stronger, which is 36Sextillion he got, and with the Golden form that is 1Million times base (just as SSJB) is 36Octillion, but the black form's multiplier is still unknown. Right?
If he is 36 octillion he is stronger than universal blue goku which u know isnt true right
@@Pr0tag-t9n Do you have ever seen a canonic fight between them?
@@Antonio-h8o No but if black frieza fought universal blue goku he would die and get one shot
@@Pr0tag-t9n i repeat, how can you know that if you have never seen a canonic fight between Black Frieza and Universal Blue Goku? Furthermore the Dragon ball heroes's power levels are all dumb. I get some example:
Vegito SSJB is far stronger than MUI Goku, But against Base Cumber he have lost even using the Kaioken, But Goku MUI wins. Or SSJB Goku is = to SSJ4 Xeno Goku, But SSJB Kaioken Vegito cant defeat Base Cabba, But SSJ4 Xeno Gogeta (that should be equal to SSJB Vegito) wins against SSJ Cumber. that makes no sense
Okay but it's literally. obvious. If you look at the power levels it says universal blue goku beats frieza. and one thing is that universal blue goku beat fu in his strongest form. This goku who was keeping up with dark golden frieza in base. He was fighting alongside hearts in base and hearts was stated to rival the omni king. So obviously if goku transforms into universal blue hes destroying black frieza.
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Gintama power levels weakest strongest😊
Goku vs fu
No matter how strong Frieza gets,Broly would absolutely destroy him
so you think broly can no diff vegeta and goku in one shot like frieza did
Broly dbs super saiyan 4 >>> black frieza
Power scaling
Bog
Goku ssg = 75 trillion
Rof
Goku ssg = 800 trillion
Goku ssb = 40 quadrillion
Universe 6 vs 7
Goku base = 4 billion
Goku ssg = 4 quadrillion
Goku ssb = 200 quadrillion
Zamazu arc
Goku base = 6 billion
Goku ssb = 300 quadrillion
Goku black rosa form manga = 5 quadrillion
Goku black perfected rosa manga and anime ssr = 50 quadrillion
Merge zamazu permanent god ki in base and ssj form access to rosa = 200 quadrillion
Merge zamazu rosa = 10 quintillion
Zeno expo
Goku base = 16 billion
Top arc
Cabba ssj 2 = 4 billion as strong as Gohan ssj 2 and perfect cell Kamehameha clash
Caulifla ssj 2 = 8 billion
Goku base = 20 billion
Goku ssj = 1 trillion
Goku ssj 2 = 2 trillion
Goku ssj 3 = 8 trillion
Goku ssj 4 = 400 trillion
Goku ssg = 10 quadrillion
kale baserk ssj 2 = 24.999996 quadrillion
Kefla base = 100 quadrillion
Goku ssb = 500 quadrillion
Kefla baserk ssj = 10 quintillion
Kefla baserk ssj 2 anime = 20 quintillion
Toppo hakiashin = 40 quintillion
Kefla baserk ssj 2 peak = 50 quintillion anime and manga
Vegeta ssbe self destruction = 80 quintillion
Goku uio 1 = 1 sextillion
Goku uio phase 2 = 1.25 sextillion
Goku uio phase 3 = 1.5 sextillion
Goku mui enraged anime = 80 sextillion
Goku completed ultra instinct manga = 150 sextillion
Jiren hidden form/super full power manga = 500 sextillion
Jiren lb anime = 1 septillion
Broly arc
Goku base = 40 billion
Moro arc post angelic training
Goku base = 200 billion
Goku ssj = 10 trillion
Goku ssg = 200 quadrillion
Goku ssb = 10 quintillion
Sabgambo = 120 quintillion Because he was able to push back Goku perfect blue before he collapsed and reach his limit he much above that of toppo hakia and Vegeta ssbe self destruction at their peaks
Goku pssb principles of ultra instinct vs sabgambo = 200 quintillion
Vegeta ssbe = 1 sextillion
Goku ssbe again = 10 sextillion
Goku uio overwatch = 200 sextillion
Goku pui emotionless state = 20 septillion
Gohan base = 50 billion
Gohan ssj = 2.5 trillion
Gohan ssj 2 = 5 trillion
Gohan ultimate = 25 trillion
Gohan ultimate beyond limits = 100 trillion
Gohan ultimate improve post top = 5 quadrillion
Gohan ultimate Moro arc post broly movie training = 10 quadrillion
Gohan ultimate post intense training Moro arc = 100 quadrillion
That means Gohan scales twice above Goku blue in rof arc which place anime and manga Gohan much above top ssg tier according to anime where he scaled when he fought Goku before top started implied he almost on same level as he was against buutenks meaning he stronger then he even Buuhan
Og73 with all z fighters abilities + moro abilities = 1 quintillion it be an epic fight with og73 vs
granolah arc he train hard but fell behind
Goku base = 4 trillion
Goku base principles of ultra instinct = 8 trillion
Goku base = 10 trillion
Goku ssg = 4 quintillion
Goku ssb = 200 quintillion
Goku ssb ui anime vs granolah clone = 4 quintillion
Goku pssb ui vs granolah clone = 2 sextillion
Granolah clone peak = 5 sextillion
Super hero arc preqaul scaling
Alpha squad = 1-10 million
Alpha 12 = 100 million
Bata 1 far stronger then alpha squad different level of power = 1 billion
Goten base begining of the arc = 9 billion
Trunks base begining of the arc = 10 billion
Bata 2 bottom half power split = 14.5 billion
Bata 1 using top half power split = 15.5 billion
Bata 2 by itself = 29 billion
Bata 1 and 2 together = 30 billion
Goten ssj beyond limits = 1.2 trillion
Trunks ssj beyond limits = 1.25 trillion
Goten and trunks ssj together = 5 trillion cyclone twist
Thirst Optimize for power exceed doctor hedo other androids before gammas
Dino droid 1 lost control of his power drain = 10 trillion
Dino droid 1 control power = 100 trillion godly level threat much above ssg Goku universal level
Super hero arc scaling
Piccolo = 10 quadrillion
Piccolo base post full potential unleash = 200 quadrillion
Piccolo ultimate = 10 quintillion
Gamma 1 and 2 = 50+ quintillion gamma 2 might be stronger then 1
Gohan ultimate = 100 quintillion
Orange piccolo little extra from shenron boosting his power = 20 sextillion
Post super hero aftermath reach level of the gods of destruction several leagues above normal level anime and manga super hero arc aftermath since they fought cell max and gotten lot weaker in super hero arc but much stronger after facing Goku and Vegeta and broly and Gohan and even train harder
Goten base = 248 billion
Trunks base = 250 billion
Goten ssj = 12.4 trillion
Trunks ssj = 12.5 trillion
Goten ssj 2 hypercritical = 24.8 trillion
Trunks ssj 2 hypercritical = 25 trillion
Goten ssj 3 hypercritical = 99.8 trillion
Trunks ssj 3 hypercritical = 100 trillion
Goku base = 100 trillion
Gotenks base hypercritical = 400 trillion
Goku ssj = 5 quadrillion
Goku ssj 2 = 10 quadrillion
Gotenks ssj = 20 quadrillion
Gotenks ssj 2 = 40 quadrillion
Goku ssj 3 = 40 quadrillion
Gotenks ssj 3 = 160 quadrillion
Goku ssj 4 = 2 quintillion
Gohan base heavily suppressed = 25 quintillion
Goku ssg = 100 quintillion
Goku ssb super hero arc = 5 sextillion
Gohan base fp extent = 20 sextillion
Goku pssb = 50 sextillion
Goku cui enraged top anime = 80 sextillion
Goku pui emotionless top manga = 150 sextillion
Jiren hidden power top = 500 sextillion
Gohan ssj = 1 septillion
Vegeta ssbe = 500 sextillion
Jiren limit breaker top = 1 septillion
Gohan ultimate = 10 septillion
Goku tuio = 10 septillion
Vegeta ultra ego = 10 septillion
Planet morus73 = 40 septillion
Granolah middle aged adult form strongest attack = 110 septillion
Gas elderly form = 200 septillion
Gas zombie form = 400 septillion
Gas zombie form enraged = 800 septillion
Cell max weakened arm ripped peak baserker state = 1 octillion
Goku pui = 1 octillion
Gohan beast = 2 octillion
Broly ssj control state = 2 octillion
black freiza moving goalpost = 9 octillion
Belmoth 10 octillion moving goalpost
Broly lssj moving goalpost = ???
Beerus moving goalpost = ???
Enemy Goten and trunks face went from being namek saga freiza to battle of gods level threat
Which means that bata 1 was 10× stronger then alpha squad
But bata 2 exceed bata 1 and alpha squad as an upgrade being 29× stronger but combined together Thier even strong enough to give trunks some trouble together til trunks went ssj and Goten help him defeated bata 1 and 2 it crazy Dino droid was even strong enough to rival all top fighters much above Goku using ssg state in battle of gods
So against Dino droid he scaled on battle of gods ssg tier
At least he much above Goku and Vegeta base beginning of gt when it was 100 billion in base form
Goten and trunks level of power estimated to be 2.5× stronger then Buuhan who 100 billion
So Goten and trunks in gt era far stronger to the fact they train harder but took a break from training but trunks in end of gt about as powerful as trunks end of super hero arc at very least since Goten fell far behind trunks at this point but in super Thier more or less equal closer in strength after training with Goku and Vegeta and gohan and broly plus trunks much older then Goten too
Basically scaling
Broly ssj control state=Gohan beast>Goku pui=cell max weakened arm ripped>gas zombie form>granola 2 red eye>planet morus73>Vegeta ultra ego=Goku true ultra instinct oman>Vegeta ssbe>Orange piccolo current>anime ssbkkx 20 or manga pssb ui>Goku pssb >Goku ssb>Granolah clone at his peak >Sabgambo>merge zamazu currupted form= Gamma 1 and 2 team up together=Goku ssg>kefla baserk ssj 2 top>toppo hakia top>merge zamazu anime and manga peak wise=hit time lag or time cage manga>Goku ssj 4>og73>merge zamazu base with permanent god ki>Gotenks ssj 3 hypercritical post super hero arc>kefla base top>dypso>aniaraza>Goku black rosa anime or manga perfected rosa form>purple Vegeta ssb>rof Goku blue=Gotenks ssj 2=Goku ssj 3>gotenks ssj>Vegeta ssj 2>Goku black rosa manga=Goku ssj>hypothetical Gotenks base post super hero arc>Dino droid 1 at his peak hero/super hero arc preqaul=current Goku base=Vegeta base>Goku ssg bog>trunks ssj>Goten ssj>trunks base>Goten base>andriod 18>krillin>tien >yancha>roshi
Super hero really buff Goten and trunks to different level above several opponents from top arc in fact they would easily defeat multiple top fighters with Thier current power level they might give toppo a tougher fight then a rusty ssj surpress Gohan who trained after super hero arc
Even kefla could easily win the fight since she needs base form to defeat Gotenks ssj 3 at this point but they could defeat Caulifla and kale by fusion ssj 3 at this point
Which makes him at least pose a threat to kefla and toppo and hit and merge zamazu
It be a good matchup for Gotenks to face og73 or Goku black ssj rosa since it would end up becoming an epic battle in combat
We know Goten and trunks are Capable of handling lower tier godly opponents in Thier teen years
Gotenks definitely strong al right
But I wonder who will give Goten and trunks a difficult battle next strong enough for them to fuse incase super hero arc aftermath returns with 1 android strong enough to take on fuse fighter
I'm gonna try to put together a better list of PLs because this feels inaccurate slightly
@@henloisiyuNot really the power scaling does feel accute by far
It stated by Gohan he almost on same level as he was against buutenks before he face his dad and before top started
Goku asborbing god ki in anime was only a small boost of power and it doesn't push him much by far after facing Beerus even stated by toyotaro anime and manga more or less eqaul since even manga Goku asborb god ki in base
Anime felt like a long development to grow stronger and improvement
But the manga however asborb god ki which allow him to grow stronger too
I watch the anime and saw the manga actually it makes clear how strong z fighters were
Even in Moro arc Thier scaling to freiza level tier in namek saga
Andriod 18 barely grow stronger after cell saga happen
Current version of z fighters scaled higher in super hero arc now anime and manga scaling all over the place but each opponent Goku and the z fighters face are stronger then previous ones actually even so far
Sabgambo and gammas and granolah clone and toppo hakia and kefla was strongest opponents they face before facing broly and Jiren and moro and granolah and gas
Since they within a power up was so strong to the fact it even got z fighters no match for each one
Tagoma is 300 million is future imperfect cell level when Ginyu was able to unlock his full potential he twice more powerful then shasami and catch him off guard against rusty Gohan base form
But Gohan and the z fighters were exhausted form facing all of freiza army which explains why they struggle against tagoma and piccolo somewhat struggle against sashimi but piccolo capable of defeating him by himself since piccolo was confident enough to defeat him but Gohan was given the win only because movie budget for a long fight with tagoma was cut short at this point and the z fighters excluded piccolo and Gohan were completely no match for shasami or tagoma
Even in top arc even top fighters were on par with Ginyu force at least lower tier top fighters some top fighters like kefla and toppo scale much above Goku black scaling around merge zamazu level of power since gap not far form where he stands even og73 with z fighters and moro abilities were scaled to be above them pose a formidable threat to broly movie Goku and Vegeta blue form which him twice above top arc Goku and Vegeta blue states individually may pose a threat to Jiren and hit and rest of top fighters that scale much above merge zamazu
Sabgambo was much stronger then Goku perfect blue when they clash since he lack the proper control of Moro amping him up since Goku likely use Oman off manga panels when he was weakening sabgambo infront of the z fighters that Moro was able to keep up with his eyes
So of course Moro was forcing sabgambo to reach Oman level by giving him as much power for Goku had to fight quickly dogde and block his attacks but once he reach his limit that punch stung Goku perfect blue using principles of ultra instinct that it push him back completely then collapsed on the battle field for reaching his limit
Against granolah clone he definitely much above Oman 3 in top arc for keeping up with Goku perfect blue using principles of ultra instinct
Goku did asborb god ki in uio and base form from reverse spirit bomb and uub god ki
He did had long battle with Moro and granolah and gas since top arc was shorter paste together within a spam almost 45 minutes of fighting since z fighters was given more screen time against Thier opponents and manga too help give some screen time too
Roshi = 110 million
Yancha = 130 million
Tien = 140 million
Krillin = 160 million
Andriod 18 = 300 million
Goten = 248 billion
Trunks ssj = 300 billion
At this point even far Gotenks base form was able to crack cell max crystal
Gammas are relatively strong enough to defeat Vegeta ssbe top by themselves even together they would defeat him at least much weaker then sabgambo but stronger then all top fighters excluding Jiren and moro and broly are definitely a match for Goku normal blue in granolah arc and definitely a match for perfect blue Goku in Moro saga
Even so I think Goten and trunks were underestimated by far in anime and manga series