Should you tell people you're HIV+ if you're undetectable?
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Of course! I can't believe we're really having this discussion 😒. Ignorance.
What do you mean, that this guy and say these irresponsible things?
Ignorance is bliss to a fool . Knowledge is protection of truth. Irresponsible not to tell your partner you are a carrier.
The answer is still YES.
No
Easier to say when you’re not in their shoes, Mr. I bet you have a secret less serious than hiv which you don’t even share with your partner.
@locktheseratchethoesup why? It's not your business. It doesn't affect you.
Honestly if someone does not tell you, and they actively have an bodily exchange with you. They should go to prison. It’s a crime.
Yes the answer is yes
It’s a CRIME, a FELONY too not tell your partner or anyone you have it. You HAVE too disclose it! BY LAW
You should always disclose regardless. The guy I am dating just disclosed to me he is HIV positive and I respect and adore him that much more. Now we can pursue the relationship with precautions and I know he respects me enough to put himself out there for my health. ALWAYS DISCLOSE, the person that cares about you WILL stay ❤
That’s so beautiful of you to do that. The guy I told has been distant ever since. It’s heartbreaking because we genuinely had a connection with each other. Smh
Facts❤️
Huh
I just did the same thing your man did last night to a woman I care deeply for.... everything blew up in my face, she made a scene in front of people and I can honestly say I've never wanted to crawl in a corner and die more than I did all last night and still do this morning.... I just don't think I'll be able to have what you two were able to bring about.
I'm happy for you. Truly...
@@andrewchadwell2759sounds like you dodged a headache. Sure you’ll find somebody mature and understanding. I’ve had relations with a person who was undetectable. Truth goes a long way plus the fact they told me lets me know they will take the proper steps so I don’t contract
Moral obligation!
Of course..
YES YOU SHOULD STILL TELL THEM - WHY IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION
Preach
I looked at video of a guy who said he had sex with someone who was undetectable. Although after he got tested several times after having sex with the person who is (hiv+ but undetectable) his results came back negative. But he still developed and carried on symptoms as if he had been infected.
For some reason I have suspicion to believe that a more serious illness worst than covid and hiv is soon to come upon us, and it will probably kill you faster than covid.
Think about it! The man had sex with someone who was hiv+ but undetectable althoughh results came back negative, he still encountered the same symptoms.
That means that virus is laying dormant in his body, because why would he have the same symptoms as someone who was infected. But his results are negative.
I'm just saying be careful!
These doctors are experimenting and they been doing it since the beginning of time.
They have a cure for hiv but they would rather ppl to be sick. That's world we live in.
Healthcare is not Healthcare, it's HealthKill !
There are people that deny HIV and AIDs exists. Tell your partner truthfully and openly honest or don't have a partner
The answer is and will always be - Yes. You MUST inform ANY & ALL partners.
Exactly unless they want to spread this deadly disease which then is a criminal act .
Why? If he can't transmit it
@PabloEmanuel96 Because it's the right thing to do. It's the morally correct thing to do. It's the ethically correct thing to do. How would you feel, if you found out, after the fact (or act) that a previous partner had a communicable disease and did not tell you.
@@jeffwiesner2334 well it's not a communicable disease because that person has a low viral charge so it's intransmissible
thats the problem, at that stage is not communicable, he literally cant infect other people.
That mentality is exactly why folks get sued. No one knows what you do with your health except you. If you prefer not to tell someone you have HIV, then maybe no one should have sex with you.
Regardless of whether or not you can pass it on, people need the heads up. Especially if we’re just meeting you for casual relations.
i mean i think that if you want to stablish a serious relationship they should know about it, but if you cant infect other people, he literally cant transmit the virus, why is it irresponsible to have sex with one night stands without them knowing when they have zero chance.of getting infected?
@@luismiguel-dt1ge Regardless of that, we don’t know unless you SAY something. We having sex with someone who we have to guess and hope is HIV- or U+ is not what rational folks would want to go through.
Speaking for myself here, if I ask you about your health status and you tell me you don’t want to tell me, I’m not gonna indulge you with my time. Again, no one knows your health but yourself.
@luismiguel-dt1ge Because sex a very vulnerable act and with that, comes risks. Imagine having sex with someone, feeling connected to them. Four months later, they tell you they have HIV. You'd be pissed because they took away that option for you to have a choice over what you want your body to experience.
@@luismiguel-dt1ge Because there is NEVER a zero chance. All it takes is you not taking your meds consistently or something in your body chemistry changing or interacting and your slip out of being undetectable. Their life and health is depended on you taking your meds and your body playing along and it's not effing up to you to make that decision for them.
Besides, they are perfectly entitled to give you zero chance at touching them if they don't want to have intercourse with someone who carries a potentially deadly virus.
Interesting take but I feel like you should still tell them at some point it's part of your life journey at the end of the day
Not at some point, tell them before you get intimate. Or else don't complain when they rearrange your face.
It doesn’t matter because I will ask them to get tested anyway so they have no choice but to disclose. And what is he talking about it’s no moral obligation? Yes it is. You’re obligated to tell if I’m going to allow you to be intimate with me for my own safety. And you don’t know if the person is responsible or irresponsible with their sexual lifestyle. There are many men (and women) who are not honest upfront. So it’s better to look out for yourself out here.
I'm confused by undetectable.... Will it still show up when they get tested?
If it's undetectable then it won't show up on the test sherlock, that's why there's a moral discussion going on.
@@MazdaRX7007 do your homework... There are actual tests that still detect the viral DNA of the disease although levels of the virus are extremely low. The issue is not many people go get tested before having intercourse
Nope… nope… nope…. Just because you are undetectable doesn’t mean there’s that rare chance you can’t pass it on, you can still pass on hiv while being undetectable, its like getting pregnant with birth control it still happens… if my partner is hiv+ i need to know, its not only important for my health but its a respect thing as well.
I thought it was just me .... you must divulge the information, period.
Actually no, according to the CDC and NIH, if the viral load is undetectable there is empirically no risk of transmission through sex, and there have been no known cases of transmission occuring from an HIV positive person who had an undetectable viral load to someone else through sexual intercourse of any kind.
@@emlmm88 Feel free to share this NIH & CDC information with a future partner so that they can make an informed decision, & give you informed consent. Anything less is lie of omission.
That's what I thought. It's not a 100% you can't pass it on, and if you do, say it ends up in someone who is already immunocompromised...they then can't fight off the virus even with meds, and you have sentenced them to death. There is always a moral obligation to tell. Then you and your partner can be safe when being intimate.
@@onedudethelegend AND I say, that you're in a relationship with a partner NOT the CDC, & you owe them the truth. IF after revealing the truth they decide to have unprotected sex with you, great. I wouldn't be me though.
You should always use condoms. Undetectable or not.
Yeah um no..tell them regardless idc if your "undetectable" a month ago.
Intimacy begins with sharing details of who you are and what you have experienced. If you don’t feel the person that you are considering to become sexually intimate can be trusted with you and your experiences why open yourself up. These days everybody should go to the health department because people are not honest about their sexual history/std.
Buyer beware!
It’s just sex for most GAY men sooooooo
It’s a CRIME, a FELONY too not tell your partner or anyone you have it. You HAVE too disclose it! BY LAW
You are morally obliged in my opinion.
I think that as long as the disease isn’t fully curable you should tell people. There is no cure. Please don’t make people go through this and give people a choice it’s their body and health the risk 0 doesn’t exist
People should still tell partners ...yes.
What about those people who think they are undetectable and arnt. What about those people who believe they are undetectable and arnt. Skipping meds? Or worse using rec drugs which interfere with HIV medication?..
Stick to the talking point of the time as going off track leads to nowhere 😆 🤣 😂
@@patriciaoreilly8907🧐
@@patriciaoreilly8907 He didn't go off track. There is no such thing as being 100% sure your are undetectable because of the points he mentioned above and more. You don't get to decide for your partner if they are willing to take that risk.
Yes, there is STILL A MORAL OBLIGATION....
You tell people because you NEED TO. There is no "evolution" when it comes to common decency and respect for others.
Yes you have a moral obligation to tell people .
He says you don't apparently?
@@Neil-Aspinall Maybe he does not have any Morals ?
@@patriciaoreilly8907 He has deluded himself. He has a life long sentence but thinks he can wish it away..........
@@Neil-Aspinalldon’t forget you can also get cancer stay humble God don’t like ugly!
@@nikolefox3686 What are you on about Nikky, you think his attitude is fine?
Moral obligation, definetely
so many patients that use prep come into the office and find out their positive for other things. Please tell your partner. They have the right to know.
Stop stirring the pot BBC. Of course you should. What a dumb question.
You still have to tell people ffs
Apparently if your a social justice warrior and cool you don't have to.
@@Neil-Aspinall so being honest with your partner makes one a social justice warrior? Ok lying, back stabbing, and scams sure then for your taste of relationships ...you do you
@@Chamelionroses You've read this the wrong way Ano, I meant the opposite. These days everyone has 'rights' so not telling your $xual partner that you have AIDS is your SJW right.
No moral obligation???? I find that attitude abominable and beyond selfish, what's more it's plain dangerous regardless of what he thinks.
how is it dangerous if he cant transmit the virus, he literally cant infect other people
Too many gay men who are given a platform to talk about this are argueing like that and then they complain why people think of them as morally reprehensable. They are throwing away all the hard work for acceptance and normal, decent gay folks have to deal with the damage to their reputation.
Are you serious? Heck yeah
No you tell people, for the safety of their life an YOURS.
ask all your partners to disclose STI status and get them (and yourself) tested before unprotected sex. i'd push for it if we only had barriered sex too.
i think partbers should be told and i would be upset if i wasn’t told. so that would severly damage the relationship. educate me and let me make the decision.
but also, i ask and only engage with people who do.
a person who is undetectable is aware of HIV prevention and gets medical care is safer to have sex with than a wild card individual who says they are "clean" but doesn't get tested regularly or even could be not disclosing STI status to you while also not getting treatment themself. people pull others into self-destructive behavior. so i see where its can be "unfair".
but let the negative partner make that decision (and vice versa. bc they could be pos for something else.) so i will be taking my partners to get tested before anything unprotected.
avoids the "is it a moral obligation" debate bc you always ask and get proof anyway. nothing wrong with doing that. taking it into your own hands / setting your own boundary.
People should disclose their status to people they are being intimate with. HOWEVER, the comments surrounding the topic seem to not understand the “undetectable” status and are just focused on someone being HIV+. Those people should really do some research about U=U and the virus overall.
There is no such thing as a 100% anything in the medical field.
@@Olivaro10 Okay?
@@AfterTheCalljustin Yes, which is why it's not okay to not disclose your status so the other person can decide for themselves if they want to take the risk.
@@Olivaro10 And I agree with that, which is why I said it in my comment. People also need to get more educated on U=U so both parties can understand that when brought up.
Yes you should tell them wtf
Roadhouse
I would still prefer you telling me dosen't matter you are Undetectable
just always condoms and practice abstinence. then have the both of you tested at the same time. if both of accepts each other wether one is positive then the other one is not, then better. just always practice safe sex
Yes, and use protection.
Wth⁉️🗣YES
Even if you are undetectable and consistently being treated you can still experience viral rebound and become infectious again.
Depends who it is nowadays. Not many people will be as accepting or mature enough to understand
Nope u should always tell people if you have a disease
@@mohammadhuzaifah63 Thank you . Plain common sense to do so & you owe respect to the other person to know & they have the choices to take
I would not have sexual relationship with a AIDS carrier not happy playing Russian Roulette 🙄 my choice .
They are still entitled to a choice in a civilised society.
Then lose those people.
@@mohammadhuzaifah63 you’re an example of why people are hesitant to disclose. There is stigma around your response.
Any guy that is single and positive here?i really need someone am 23
Assuming people are on PreP is bad. You can't assume that.
Yes
the risk are never zero you have to tell your partner
Are you an hiv specialist doctor to make this statement? Because doctors and HIV specialists will legit tell people that U=U.
It’s only U=U if the person is being responsible and taking their meds like they supposed to…that is the point they are making which scientists have also confirmed.
@@onedudethelegend yes and doctors will tell you prevention is better than cure... Can you just disclose your status to your partner please I can see you are hiding it
@@alineted108being undetectable is safer than someone just simply on prep
It depends entirely on the situation. If you're undetectable and taking your meds then there's no reason to tell a one-night-stand who is at no risk from you and you'll never see again. If you want to have a relationship then yes you should tell them cause you should be honest and upfront in a relationdship.
Vincornelis WRONGGGGG
@@lea6299 THANK YOU!! It is OK to POSSIBLY give it to a one night stand but not to someone you are in a relationship with?? Many a relationship starts with a one night stand! Ever heard of lab errors? It happens. And are we 100% sure it cannot be passed on?. Thank you, Lea for being the voice of reason. But here is a novel thought...just practice safe sex ( but I guess that is a different conversation).
@@donnalthood3102 I stopped years ago too much trouble.........I a NUN......
What????! I’m staying single. People are crazy out here.
Trash 😑
You can still pass it on even being undetectable. A lot less chances of doing that but there is still a chance.
And just imagine the stress someone will go through if you tell someone you’re sleeping with that you’re poz but undetectable. They will drop everything and just worry and run to go tested over and over. Some people can have a mental breakdown.
So just be truthful from the beginning so if someone does decide to hook up they are full aware
False if you’re undetectable you can’t pass it on the virus is so low that it’s not transmissible however the info should still be disclosed
@@williamjoyner3768 Wrong just because chances are slim does not mean shit!!!
@@tysondoe8402 you can literally look up the facts lmaoooo but argue with yourself
@@williamjoyner3768 dude shut up... Prevention is better than cure and nights of worrying if you got it from undetectable fela
@@williamjoyner3768 if that’s your opinion fair enough. I’m not part of your peoples community so I kinda don’t know everything. I just wanted to speak against people not disclosing their status before being intimate thinking I’m undetectable I’m not gonna hurt anyone.
absolutely! not telling is a problem
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interesting
Imagine how many ppl hide it an be sprinkling tht 💩 around 😭😷
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thats wild people wanna spear life a flip of a coin this the problem
It’s none of their business!!!
It's difficult to find a partner tjoo
Yes still tell them tf
Reckless behavior before. Reckless behavior still.
Doesn’t surprise me.
dr sam Bailey = truth
Gareth Thomas
Nope
Not shyt the answer is yes. Sooo angry. But Catholic so u know what God will provide justice.
All africans????😂😁
This type of video encourages people to come out and take the right steps...thank you!
Does it SAS?
the questioning about this makes me think that until there is a treatment they should be forced to have HIV tattood on their arm
That would be so dehumanizing. And there is treatments out there to suppress it long enough to be undetectable and there medications like prep to prevent getting it.
@@lavondukes12 Pretty much as long as you are on medication and reached undetectable status you can’t give it to anyone. You can live your normal life. The comment section is a joke pushing stigmas acting thinking they are woke.
@@lavondukes12 even when its undetectable they can still pass it on, its rare yes, but it happens, just like how people get pregnant with birth control. The are putting their partner at risk. But they need to tell them. No buts
@@josaphinetneed a viral load to transmit.. when undetectable theres no viral load. Someone with hiv that's undetectable can be negative on a test.
Sure 🤝
There should be a legal obligation ! People should have the right to make an informed decision