I have a procaliber 9.7 2022 and it is the best hardtail I have ever ridden. I love it. I upgraded the brakes and I will add a dropper post, but even stock it is very good.
Great video. Helpful thoughts. I did consider the Canyon at fist but in the end only the BMC two stroke gave me second thoughts. The procaliber won! ☺️. Picking mine very soon.
Canyon has measurement boxes to help you choose the right size. If you pick a smaller one because it's in stock, that's pretty much your choice...not really a criticism Canyon can do much about.
yes, I used their measurement guide and it seemed it would work, and it was ok, not ideal. The only way to know for sure is via a bike fit, or by actually trying the bike yourself, not typically an option with a direct to consumer brand. Sizing aside, the Procal needed up being a better bike for me, which I may not have even explored had the seat post issue not been present. Overall I still am positive on the Exceed, and still have it and may try to find a use for it unless the used market recovers and I can sell it for a reasonable price.
is is true as many people suggest that trek procal (carbon) is overall usually quite comfortable. but I also noticed people having both (procaliber vs exceed) tested say there's no noticable difference in comfort. both are quite good in comfort.
They are certainly similar in their overall performance. I will say the ISO Speed on the Procal really does help with the seated comfort compared to the Exceed. It's not drastic like suspension, but it is noticeable especially over the course of a longer ride.
Yep the Procal can definitely go up in size. I think the Exceed has at least as much clearance too, maybe even more, interesting if they do claim only 2.2”. It has 2.25” on it from factory.
I wish I could try both myself one after another. For this price bike shops should always agree to test a bike before purchase as well as of course sizing etc.
That would definitely be ideal. I was able to ride the Procal before buying as it was in stock at a Trek store near me, which was nice. It's tough with Canyon and their direct to consumer model.
Very nice video, thank you for it. I'm also Trek fan here :) I owe Procaliber 9.5 (gray/black) since 2 weeks now and I love the look of this bike. So far did 150km and I have majority of positive feelings. I did some upgrades directly out of the box ( added Deore M6100 breaks and crankset to have whole Deore Group set ), Deore XT Ice-tech break discs, carbon fiber seat post, SRAM grips and looking for better fork for the future. Most likely will chose Reba as well but still thinking about 120mm :D
Nice! Yeah when I do the fork I am trying to decide if I want to go 120mm and slightly bigger more aggressive tires, or keep it 100mm with lighter tires. It has impressed on the trails so far as-is, so might try to just get the weight down.
I managed to get the weight to 11.6kg with a Sid Ultimate RaceDay 100mm and XT 2-piston brakes, XT cranks, XT derailleur, XT spd pedals, SLX cassette and finally Schwalbe Racing Ray & Racing Ralph. I intentionally bought the great frame and swapped the components.
@@MarioMueller_xenji nice ;) i bought this bake also cause of frame, i really love it and how it looks. So far I have full Deore m6100 group set but my plan is now to buy Reba, and change everything to XT.
Nice video, funny that the Trek is a Large and Canyon a Medium while the Canyon looks bigger. I have a question, i am 179cm tall. What is the good size frame for me? M or M/L or L? Thanks greets from the Netherlands
That's a tough call on sizing. I am just over 180cm tall. I can use med or M/L, but I can say for me I definitely prefer all of my large bikes on sizing. Based on your preferences and the specifics of your build (arm/leg/torso length, etc) it's tough to say for sure. Of course bike manufacturers differ as well too. Try to get fitted or ride before you buy, if you can.
both similar geometries, similar reach and stack. almost identical angels. Wonder how they actually feel on more flat / less rough terrain. I also noticed Trek seem to go a BIT smaller than Canyon.
For these two specific bikes, the Exceed is a medium (I went with their online size guide), but really I should have gone for a large, which is what I got on the Procal. They are definitely in the same ballpark across the board, but I have to say I still prefer the Procal and ride it more than any other bike these days.
Awesome comparison! What is your height and inseam? I am currently on a medium Scott Scale hardtail and looking at Procalibers. Trek’s medium is smaller than many other brands mediums and my height puts me right between the the M/L and Large on the trek chart.
I am 5’11” with a 32” inseam. I am frequently between Med and Large for a lot of bikes, but have found for me going to a large is usually best. Thanks for watching!
@@RicardoRibeiroAlves I found a shop with both. The M/L is my pick. Both felt good, but i liked the slightly smaller size for panic stopping and dabbing my foot. I live in NW Indiana and also ride in Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin. The trails around here are typically super tight and twisty with small punchy climbs and roots everywhere from big oak trees. If you get hung up on roots you need to unclip and dab your foot instantly or else tip over. I go to Colorado to rent bikes and ride typically once or twice a year. The trails there are way smoother and much more flowing. If i lived and rode in Golden, boulder, or Leadville i would probably want the large for a little extra length and stability.
@@jongill2120 that is a very helpful feedback. Your choice makes a lot of sense. I'm going to the L then, very fast XC where I pedal. Thanks. Take care.
Hi Jon- I am bit confused between Scott Scale 930 vs Trek Procaliber 9.6 How is your experience with Scott Scale I am currently using Scott Aspect 930 and happy with the bike,but my next goal is to get Carbon Hardtail and confused between Scale vs Procaliber Scott Scale Carbons are Cambodia made this worries me for quality and finish as Taiwan made(Procaliber) are far better.. in finishing and quality… Secondly Procaliber Stack is low it’s a short bike … not sure if they can be equally good on roads …as 50% I do city rides …Rest I am well versed with Treks quality they are top notch. Great if you can share your thoughts
Yep, both are pure XC carbon hardtails. I run Raceface Chester pedals on all my bikes running flat pedals. www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4TG4Z7/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_KKDJXGPJ6NH7GW9KNQ4V?linkCode=ml2&tag=elevationev0a-20
@@ElevationEveryWeekend Ok I think I will go with the large then an put a 125mm dropper post on it as I am 5/10” and still growing with my expected height to be 6/1”
Can I ask your height please as Im looking at the Trek and would like to compare my size with yours for reference as you’ve got the large Im 5’8” and cant decide on a Medium or a Medium/Large model
@@markjones3551 when racing xco always size down. Lengthen the stem on the sized down bike. Possibly lengthen crank arms also. This is best for racing xco
I have a procaliber 9.7 2022 and it is the best hardtail I have ever ridden. I love it. I upgraded the brakes and I will add a dropper post, but even stock it is very good.
Yep I have been really happy with mine too. About the only immediate upgrade I see is tires, and eventually a little more refined fork
@@ElevationEveryWeekend the tires are very good if you are riding classic XC I think.
The trek Carbon frames take a back seat to no brand .
They are spectacular
The Procal has been fantastic so far, trail videos coming soon!
Trek fan here ! Great to hear your thoughts/comparisons. Thanks for posting !
Thanks for stopping by to watch non fatbike!!
Got my "used" ProCaliber 9.6 2022 for 1200Eur like new with warranty! Its AMAZING bike, would buy it again new.
That is a great price!!
Great video. Helpful thoughts. I did consider the Canyon at fist but in the end only the BMC two stroke gave me second thoughts. The procaliber won! ☺️. Picking mine very soon.
Yeah that BMC is another I liked but was totally unavailable.
Canyon has measurement boxes to help you choose the right size. If you pick a smaller one because it's in stock, that's pretty much your choice...not really a criticism Canyon can do much about.
yes, I used their measurement guide and it seemed it would work, and it was ok, not ideal. The only way to know for sure is via a bike fit, or by actually trying the bike yourself, not typically an option with a direct to consumer brand. Sizing aside, the Procal needed up being a better bike for me, which I may not have even explored had the seat post issue not been present. Overall I still am positive on the Exceed, and still have it and may try to find a use for it unless the used market recovers and I can sell it for a reasonable price.
Enjoyed your video on the comparisons of the bikes keep them coming be waiting for your next one
Thanks for watching!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend You are welcome
I own the procaliber 9.8. Its awesome❤
is is true as many people suggest that trek procal (carbon) is overall usually quite comfortable. but I also noticed people having both (procaliber vs exceed) tested say there's no noticable difference in comfort. both are quite good in comfort.
They are certainly similar in their overall performance. I will say the ISO Speed on the Procal really does help with the seated comfort compared to the Exceed. It's not drastic like suspension, but it is noticeable especially over the course of a longer ride.
The Trek ProCaliber will also take a wider rear tire 2.4" vs 2.2" for the Exceed
Yep the Procal can definitely go up in size. I think the Exceed has at least as much clearance too, maybe even more, interesting if they do claim only 2.2”. It has 2.25” on it from factory.
Wow great content , great comparison. Love you videos!!
Thanks for watching!
I wish I could try both myself one after another. For this price bike shops should always agree to test a bike before purchase as well as of course sizing etc.
That would definitely be ideal. I was able to ride the Procal before buying as it was in stock at a Trek store near me, which was nice. It's tough with Canyon and their direct to consumer model.
Love the Trek!! Great video
Thanks!!
A lot of good feedback on pros and cons! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Very nice video, thank you for it. I'm also Trek fan here :) I owe Procaliber 9.5 (gray/black) since 2 weeks now and I love the look of this bike. So far did 150km and I have majority of positive feelings. I did some upgrades directly out of the box ( added Deore M6100 breaks and crankset to have whole Deore Group set ), Deore XT Ice-tech break discs, carbon fiber seat post, SRAM grips and looking for better fork for the future. Most likely will chose Reba as well but still thinking about 120mm :D
Nice! Yeah when I do the fork I am trying to decide if I want to go 120mm and slightly bigger more aggressive tires, or keep it 100mm with lighter tires. It has impressed on the trails so far as-is, so might try to just get the weight down.
@@ElevationEveryWeekend i think I will do similar and go for 100mm Reba or Sid ;)
I managed to get the weight to 11.6kg with a Sid Ultimate RaceDay 100mm and XT 2-piston brakes, XT cranks, XT derailleur, XT spd pedals, SLX cassette and finally Schwalbe Racing Ray & Racing Ralph.
I intentionally bought the great frame and swapped the components.
@@MarioMueller_xenji I don’t plan to replace everything, but definitely fork and tires. I’ll check out that fork. Did you consider going 120mm?
@@MarioMueller_xenji nice ;) i bought this bake also cause of frame, i really love it and how it looks. So far I have full Deore m6100 group set but my plan is now to buy Reba, and change everything to XT.
Nice video, funny that the Trek is a Large and Canyon a Medium while the Canyon looks bigger.
I have a question, i am 179cm tall. What is the good size frame for me? M or M/L or L? Thanks greets from the Netherlands
That's a tough call on sizing. I am just over 180cm tall. I can use med or M/L, but I can say for me I definitely prefer all of my large bikes on sizing. Based on your preferences and the specifics of your build (arm/leg/torso length, etc) it's tough to say for sure. Of course bike manufacturers differ as well too. Try to get fitted or ride before you buy, if you can.
both similar geometries, similar reach and stack. almost identical angels. Wonder how they actually feel on more flat / less rough terrain. I also noticed Trek seem to go a BIT smaller than Canyon.
For these two specific bikes, the Exceed is a medium (I went with their online size guide), but really I should have gone for a large, which is what I got on the Procal. They are definitely in the same ballpark across the board, but I have to say I still prefer the Procal and ride it more than any other bike these days.
How tall are you? My son has the Canyon Exceed but we are thinking about going to the Procaliber as he out grows the medium Exceed.
5’11” with 32” inseam and decently long reach.
Awesome comparison! What is your height and inseam? I am currently on a medium Scott Scale hardtail and looking at Procalibers. Trek’s medium is smaller than many other brands mediums and my height puts me right between the the M/L and Large on the trek chart.
I am 5’11” with a 32” inseam. I am frequently between Med and Large for a lot of bikes, but have found for me going to a large is usually best. Thanks for watching!
I'm exactly in the same condition. Have you made up your mind?
@@RicardoRibeiroAlves I found a shop with both. The M/L is my pick. Both felt good, but i liked the slightly smaller size for panic stopping and dabbing my foot. I live in NW Indiana and also ride in Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin. The trails around here are typically super tight and twisty with small punchy climbs and roots everywhere from big oak trees. If you get hung up on roots you need to unclip and dab your foot instantly or else tip over.
I go to Colorado to rent bikes and ride typically once or twice a year. The trails there are way smoother and much more flowing. If i lived and rode in Golden, boulder, or Leadville i would probably want the large for a little extra length and stability.
@@jongill2120 that is a very helpful feedback. Your choice makes a lot of sense. I'm going to the L then, very fast XC where I pedal. Thanks. Take care.
Hi Jon- I am bit confused between Scott Scale 930 vs Trek Procaliber 9.6
How is your experience with Scott Scale I am currently using Scott Aspect 930 and happy with the bike,but my next goal is to get Carbon Hardtail and confused between Scale vs Procaliber
Scott Scale Carbons are Cambodia made this worries me for quality and finish as Taiwan made(Procaliber) are far better.. in finishing and quality…
Secondly Procaliber Stack is low it’s a short bike … not sure if they can be equally good on roads …as 50% I do city rides …Rest I am well versed with Treks quality they are top notch.
Great if you can share your thoughts
Both those bikes are XC. What run flat pedals?
Yep, both are pure XC carbon hardtails. I run Raceface Chester pedals on all my bikes running flat pedals.
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Cant decide between a Procaliber or a Specialized Chisel…have you ridden the chisel to compare?
I have not ridden the Specialized, but they make great bikes too. If you can ride both try to do so.
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How tall are you I might go a large for a exeed cf6 2022
I am 5’11” with a 32” inseam. Even though I am well within their medium I would have done better with a large.
@@ElevationEveryWeekend Ok I think I will go with the large then an put a 125mm dropper post on it as I am 5/10” and still growing with my expected height to be 6/1”
@@HugoRidesMTB good plan. If the reach is too much short term you can always put a shorter stem on too
Can I ask your height please as Im looking at the Trek and would like to compare my size with yours for reference as you’ve got the large
Im 5’8” and cant decide on a Medium or a Medium/Large model
I am 5’11” with 32” inseam and decent reach.
@@ElevationEveryWeekend …thanks man…..Medium might suit me better then than a m/l
@@markjones3551 when racing xco always size down. Lengthen the stem on the sized down bike. Possibly lengthen crank arms also. This is best for racing xco