As a retired land surveyor with 40 years of experience I would advise people that want to get a survey to have a written contract with the surveyor outlining everything that you expect to get out of the survey. Many people might deal with a surveyor once in their lives and have no idea what is included in a survey. A basic land survey will set the property corners and show any encroachments. This will not include any flood information, topography, easements, legal access or improvements (these can be added at an additional cost). Also demand that the surveyor prepare a map for you and that he records it with the county recorder.
@@NanasHealthyKitchen That depends on the state and likely county you're in. But typically I would say just finding the 4 corners $1500 if the land is fairly easy to walk. If they have to cut their way through blackberries, add more to it. But I would get all the extra's if you're very serious about buying the land he mentioned above. It's well worth every penny and if you don't have $3000 to do it, can you honestly afford the property?
I had a buddy buy a 5 acre land lock property and nobody wanted to sell him a portion for an easement so my buddy put a helipad on that property and lands his personal chopper there daily. 2 months later one of the surrounding property owners came and offered an easement for sale cause they were tired of hearing the helicopter 😂
That's awesome but at that point I would have said, "Sorry. I can't afford to BUY that from you because I spent all my money on this helicopter. Now, if you were to GIFT it to me..." 😉
1. Avoid landlocked 2. Understand deed restrictions 3. Know who owns neighboring property 4. Know flood zone 5. Trees, dirt, water, minerals: know local rules/hoa. Avoid fines. Have rights 6. Get perk test, know if property can get permit for septic tank
Perk tests can sometimes cost several thousand dollars, and current landowner may not allow one to be dug without a sale contract. More importantly, if it doesn’t pass perk, are you okay with the alternative type of septic required. Good info for new land buyers.
Love Wayne Turner. This video should be required viewing for all buyers. I always require realtors to: 1) provide plat/GIS information showing who owns surrounding property. 2) provide FEMA flood zone designation. 3) provide wetlands/flood plain mapping. 4) offer buyers agent contracts that apply to one specific deal, and no others. (you never want to commit wholly to one agent/company for all inclusive long time periods). 5) agent must walk the property with me and either be armed, or allow me to carry a weapon, if laws allow it. You NEVER know what you will encounter in the woods. 6) every offer must have the soil test contingency on it, you must know if seasonal high water tables will require a $22,000 mound system. These are the minimum requirements. Sadly, most realtors (real turds) will run the other way when the buyer requires them to make an ounce of effort. . .
my real estate agent didn't even know to look at flood maps.. I eliminated a bunch of prospects without leaving the house with just flood maps, old mine maps
@nicholasmcvety9644 legally, no, not everyone can. In the state of California it is illegal without a permit to collect and store rainwater. I believe there's at least one other state with a similar restriction.
I'm looking for no restrictions and no sub division and no HOA I'm a ham radio operator and don't want angry neighbors. It's hard to find land like that I have a 5.6 acres with no restrictions in North Carolina but my wife don't want to live there. I really don't either. I want everything: views, creek and no restrictions let me qualify views don't have to be a mountain top just a nice view of the mountain. 73
Stay away from countries that let fussy neighbours interfere with your freedom. There are things that do need to be banned - building a dam that's going to fail and flood out other people's homes, bulldozing rare habitat, releasing unprocessed wastewater into the street, that sort of thing - but when your neighbours are allowed to take away your right to do harmless stuff like keeping a trailer in your carport or growing vegetables in your front yard, that's time to find somewhere else to live.
Yeah HOAs but not just HOAs. Restrictions are hid unless you see the documents or deed. It seems like real estate people want to hide that part. I always ask. 73 P. S. I forgot one thing county has their own rules which are not DIY friendly, you need a building permit and a contractor to build, to wire your own house you need to take a test then you cannot sell that house for so many years. Even though my property is unrestricted you still need to follow county rules. I won't go through all the county ordinances like 500 of them. 73
From my parents house you could both hear the train at night and smell the sewage plant when the wind shifted. Neither the train nor the sewage plant are close on the map, so only a local who lived in that area would be able to warn you about it. Also, not every undesirable thing shows up on a map. They found an old dump in their backyard full of rusty metal and trash that was hidden in the old trees that blocked it.
As a former dirt attorney, i thought this was an excellent overview. The one thing I'd add is a phase 1 environmental assessment, and possibly, depending on location, wetlands identification. Surveyors often onit wetlands designation unless it's already on a base map. Also, if you're going to need a well, never believe what the seller says it's going to cost without checking yourself.
i wrote 6 notes from this video. from your other videos, so far, i have written total 36 notes. lawyer and real estate agent if the seller will be in a lot of headache answering these. THANKS. sure, i have identified ine CROOKED real estate agent that wanted to sell me a lemon of land, and these notes helped me to identify her and kick her out.
@@Edgar-gx6yn i wrote them on paper. will type them and put them on my webserver and send the link here. today is 29 may 2024. in next 2-3 days will do it.
I used to own a few acres in Ohio. At some point I started clearing around the overgrown barn and fretted about why someone would have put on it a too-tall sliding front door. The inside was dark and catching water, and the dirt was banked around the outside perimeter. Thinking about the house and the crack in the one basement wall, I realized with a sickening feeling that the property was subsiding. I researched this and learned that in the 1800s their were coal mines several hundred feet below ground. About 20 miles east of me the map of the mines stopped. In those locations, subsistence insurance was mandatory, but in my location it was not. Although it was known that the maps were old and incomplete, and poorly done in the first place.
@susanmoore9839 I reside in Ohio, I wondered if this was in Suffield township? There is some weird happenings there. The old underground mines are being filled with out of state waste. Since it’s a township, there isn’t strong government regulations to keep this sort of contamination out. I’m sorry 😞 you had such a disappointing experience.
Excellent video Wayne. As a retired real estate and construction professional I can attest that you are correct on every point. I would only add, don't hire the cheapest lawyer. Hire the guy who is THE real estate pro in your area and be wary of any property that is subject to restrictive covenants no matter how harmless they seem.
My family has always owned at the top of a hill or bluff, because floods happen (rainy seasons in otherwise dry areas). If someone tells you it’s because you like looking down on others, tell them “no, I don’t like dealing with a flooded house.” 2. Don’t “clean up” or flatten/fill-in dry creeks. In a flood, those dry creeks and their plants reduce the height of standing water by absorbing a lot more than you realize. 3. Know how deep the septic tank is on a new build. Three houses were built in an area that floods during heavy rain. The land had been built up a few feet for the houses, but the day everyone started moving in a rare monsoon started - septics popped out of the ground and back-flowed into the houses, ruining furniture and box contents.
I know this is for land BUT, when looking at a house, a real practical thing is to go back during rain, esp a downpour and see if there are leaks or drainage issues.
Very wise information. I've seen the water creep in from deluge rain, which we get in Florida. It can be fixed by paying for a drainage system, but the extra cost is a factor that should be considered.
That can be hard to do from far away, but there's a few tricks. One way is to use social media to talk to locals. Another is to peruse news stories, social media of locals, and past weather reports to see what info you can glean. Also look for as many aerial photos as you can find. I've found a few places where aerial photos showed grassy fields that become shallow ponds in some years. Best wishes.
Absolutely!!! My husband and I were looking at houses. Our fave, it turns out, had standing water in the front and rear yards. We decided to go back twice in 4 weeks, after rain, each time, waiting about days after the rain stopped. I'm glad we did that.
If looking in the country for a good place to build a home, look for properties with old home sites. Years ago there was almost a science to finding home sites. They knew what they were doing!
I have one I'll sell. The barn has all new siding, windows and doors. It does need the north side of the roof replaced AGAIN due a derecho wind event awhile back. Has septic, electric, cable tv, fiber optic internet, and propane tank. It has a farmhouse built in 1906. House is liveable, but needs some work or replaced. On 4.16 acres. Nice neighbors, with the closest one over 1/2 mile away. If I could get what my county says it worth, I'd be happy. If I could get what Zillow says its worth I'd be totally tickled pink with purple spots. It has a number of trees that the derecho knocked down that still need cleaned up.
I once bought a half acre lot in southern michigan near the indiana border. I got a lot of verbals from the realtor and township people. After the purchase I wanted to put my RV on the lot while I start the building process. My plan was to install a shed for my tools while I clear the land, then build a garage for other things and then build a stick built home. During this time I would keep my RV on the site while working the land. This was going to be our vacation home and would travel to the lot with our rv and we could be there on the lot for a week or a month working. Apparently the Township people were not 100% about the rules or permits needed. For several months were would acquire a permit for our RV that was good for 14 days and we would just renew it every 14 days if we stay longer, no problem. We had a shed delivered, power pole installed on the property, had a connection to the city sewer system. So at this point the our RV had connection to power and sewer. We held off on the water since the city water line was on the other side and was going to cost extra to dig a line under the street to our property. The neighbor was kind enough to let us connect to one of their water spigots. The lot was like a forest with waist high grass and vegetation. My wife and I physically did a lot of the work ourshelves clearing the land and getting ready to build. Our plan was going to take a couple years as we lived 1600 miles away in Arizona. I needed to get trash pickup but I could not get it without a physical street address. The trash service was tied to the water service but I didn't have water service to our lot yet. Anyway the township and county people that said what was ok started to reverse the ok to maybe and then no. The township have not dealt with my suitiation in many years since I bought one of the last empty lots in the township and the land had been vacation for over a 100 years. The county said sure I could put a shed there but no garage until I submit plans a=nd a contract with a construction company to build my house and garage. I was also told that I can not have a detached garage, the garage had to be part of the house or connected to the house. I said I wasn't ready to build the house yet. We township and county had us jumping thru so many loops and were exhausted. We we told we could no longer get a permit for our RV, that the township office didn't understand the rules with the permit for the RV. Turns out the permit was for an rv only if there was a house already there or a construction contract in had. The County said you got 24 hours to remove your RV from the property. I guess we got got up in the middle of the township and county updating their rules and policies. Since we financially could not build on the property within 6 months we finally gave up and sold the property and moved on. Didn't really lose any money only a lot of blood sweat and tears. Another lesson learned. We were 4 block within the township, if we had been outside the township only the county rules would apply. It seems like the bigger the lot the more things you can do on it, city or township rules don't apply.
Sad to hear that. Mi has become a messed up state for everything. Trying to sell my MIL property after she passed in 2019 was a nightmare with some of the same issues you had.
There are Control Freaks and I mean Dedicated Bastard Control Freaks, both as Neighbors as well as County Land Use Officials in some instances. Large Development Companies have Dirt Experience Lawyers on speed Dial, to take care of the light work and intervene with the County Commissions to get variances and changes to long term plans, when Land Use Offices try to pose problems to them, here in FL. The average guy or gal sometimes gets a break, but can tell you in certain Counties, such as Polk County FL, the average person is over ruled by Over Lords.
@@msboon6078 I on occasion mention to others (not so much in comments) that this Nation has Devolved (Instead of Evolved) into the Land of The Fee. ( And Home of the Credit Card Slave. ) In recent Posts I have taken up the call that the Republican Party or Independent Party should take up a Crusade for what could be described as "Allodial Title" (It could be Non-Taxed Title or some thing similar) - any way a Political Movement to develop and implement thru Legislation thru out the US a drastic alteration of the present system of land ownership by Individual Citizens (Not Foreign Entities, Corporations, nor similar legal structures.) so that one's Home, Homestead and attached Land, could not be subject to taxation, nor to sale or taking for taxation purposes. A New System of taxation - if needed - would have to be developed taking no account that after paying off one's debts for ones home and land that there would be no further taxation of that home and land - that it would be well and truly one's own land and could NOT be taken by ANY Government Federal, State , Local, HOA, etc., for non-payment of taxes. Such a Political Movement would increase Home ownership and would truly increase "Freedom" in our Nation. It would also increase the Political Fortunes of the Party which championed it, but not the Democrat Party which is not inclined toward private ownership of property.
I went to look at land once and did talk to the neighbors. They were really throwing shade on the land but not giving any real reasons as to why I shouldn't buy it. There wasn't anything wrong with the land. I found out later they had been hunting on it and didn't want to have to give up trespassing on the seller's property. There were nicer lots of land anyway so I passed, plus I didn't want to live nearby those weirdos anyway so I saw it as a win. The point of the story is sometimes the neighbors will just straight up lie about the property next to them for sale because they don't want anyone moving in nearby. Your choice ultimately if you want to go ahead with the purchase. Depends on how big the land is, but it does say something about what kind of people your potential neighbors might be.
Yes, before purchasing raw land, I suggest having a test done to determine if the water is potable and safe for consumption by humans just in case there is no rural or city water option for connection. This happened to a young couple who purchased 40 acres of raw land in the country. They planned on having a mobile home moved in on the land but changed their minds after learning that the well water was not potable. Great video. Thanks for helping educate the public on these important issues.
I spent $10k+ on a well and pipes to only find out that the water was not potable without reverse osmosis. Radium. The whole town was full of radium and sulphur well water. They all had RO systems or the trash just drank the toxic water and got cancer. . Talk to the residents before you buy.
... and they couldn't afford a FILTER, even just for Drinking water? The rest would be for bath and garden and sewer. However, I would only have one requirement: there must be a stream with clea, potable water and fish in it. NO HOA, where old mentally deficient karens scheme how to make problems to people who happen to be in their HOA. They vote for themselves and because nobody gives a sht, they always win with even just few votes.
I worked 12 years with the city and 18 more with the utility - started surveying in streets & hghwys and then sewer and then water and sewer and finally the utility gobbled it all up and I learned all the stuff that you said mr. Turner - and its common sense stuff - but most people just arent aware of these things - but when you work on a civil service survey crew (for 31 years) you see all the horror stories - you are doing a good thing mr. Turner - for ALL concerned!
You say you worked for the city and utilities for 31 yrs to learn this stuff and then say it's "common sense." Most people would 100% rely on a realtor or lawyer to tell them most of this stuff and otherwise have no idea. Most of this isn't common knowledge to anyone except maybe in professions related to real estate and development.
I went to sell a vacant acre. Turns out the previous owner never paid fines for illegal dumping. After ten years, Code Enforcement penalties had grown to more than $1-million! Thank God for title insurance. I didn't have to pay a dime. They should have found this when I bought the property. Their bad. Their dime.
Very clear and helpful : thanks! I'm working extra to keep my ROI flowing into my mortgage payment. it's the last piece of debt i have and i'm a bit overeager to see it gone. Any index fund or stock tips to help that get done?
I think stocks will plummet further before actually experiencing steady growth and there are still quite a few stocks that makes for a good buy this season, you just have to do your research, but to be on the safer side and not second guess your market decisions, I’d suggest you reach out to a proper investment manager for guidance, they’re better equipped at understanding market patterns/movements and adjusting portfolio to match up with these market trends.
my portfolio is down over 23% j and It’s been that way fsince 2022 and I really could use professional help, I’m close to retirement. have you worked with an asset manager before and could recommend any?
Never buy land under the purview of an HOA. Or if there is an option to join an HOA, DON'T. NEVER buy land that doesn't allow you to install a well and septic. Both are NECESSARY to maintain true independence from local or corporate control.
HOA's keep people from turning their properties into junk yards. Brings down the value of the property also mobile homes some not all are junky looking.
@@Mike-01234 A fair statement, Mike, however, there is no stopping EVER the HOA ability to add more controls, restrictions and MONTHLY COST so the bloat causes bloat causes bloat causes---- a second mortgage payment maybe 20 years in when you are mostly paying off your real mortgage. It is EVIL. But, like a prison, each cell is precise and exactly defined by majority and not ever by YOU. I will live and die free (except for the property tax, another insanity).
Firstly, THANK YOU, Wayne, for this video! I first came across it months before we looked at properties out of state. Still hunting, but this info helped me select the right agent. We checked out a lot of properties, walked each one, slipping through barbed wire and hiking a bit when needed. Actually being on site gave us so much clarity and clued us toward more questions we needed answered by local authorities. Being able to act quickly while in town scouting helped tremendously in learning and deciding further. So thanks!
I've owned several properties. Wayne is exactly right. Do your research. Ask your realtor or county tax/ survey office. Find out everything you can about a property before making an offer.
I bought a house in the city, no HOA 🎉 but … didn’t realize it was near a flight path for landing planes, the railroad a mile or so away honked horns periodically throughout the night which I could hear clearly and lastly the super market that was behind our neighborhood had semi trucks parked with their diesel engines idling all night as they unloaded. What happens in daytime hours may not represent overnight expectations.
it's amazing how loud trains and planes sound at night compared to daytime. I have stayed at a friend's house who has a railroad nearby. in daytime you barely hear the train. At night, the ground shakes and it sounds like the train is about to come through your house.
One other HUGE point I would make is to check to see if the city or county is levying a special assessment tax on that land. That happened to me. The special assessment turned out to be about 10 times the cost of the property tax annually. Don't buy in crooked California City.
The information that you imparted to the public is priceless!. My husband and I are planning to buy a piece of raw land up north. I just so happen to run across your video and I watched the whole thing. You talked about so many things I was not even aware of. Now I know the pros and the cons of purchasing a piece of land and what to look out for. Also I'll continue watching your other videos. Thank you so much Mr Turner.
If you buy land with homes already there - even if they are or are not condemned - don't assume there is a septic system. I lived in my house since 2000 and had to install a brand new septic system because my house and the house next door were sharing one system.
What's wrong with an animalistic cult that bullies, harasses, controls, and abuses their neighbors for not conforming to a bunch of ridiculous standards that prevent you from potentially enjoying your property in the name of appealing to other cultists who may want to move in and join in the totalitarianism? 😂
I was about to buy a beautiful piece of land in Temecula (California)but when I found out they had HOA I gave up. It was only $3 monthly. Very cheap, right ? I seriously don't want to pay $3 to have someone telling me what to do on "my land" .
There are also some towns or cities where you can buy houses super super cheap, but these are usually dilapidated, abandoned and unsafe for occupation. The minute you gain title you are responsible for upkeep and can be heavily fined for an unkempt and unsafe property. There's a video here on UA-cam about Pine Bluff Arkansas. You want to watch this before you buy houses or property. This vid tells about a man who bought 70 properties in Pine Bluff and was fined $35,000 for one property alone. He ended up selling his houses for $1 each just to get out from under them.
Look, this You-tuber is literally doing all of us a favor, he does not seem to have a vested interest other than wanting a click on his channel, which is easy to do with no downside. It’s unfortunate, tragic, disastrous, you name it, but the world is what it is and attorneys many times tend to control most everything (most of whom should be horsewhipped daily!). Personally, I have this and other valuable videos saved and know how to retrieve them. As a land buyer, it can be a big-time hassle but by following his advice you will save more heartache (and money!) than you can imagine!
My sister bought a house an hour away, they went on a Saturday to look at it and put a contract. Didn’t step foot back on property until they closed and quickly discovered that 300 yds away on the other side of a wooded lot the county has a waste rock and dirt dump site. Monday through Friday all they hear from 8-5 is the tailgates slamming shut on the dump trucks! She called me b4 she went to look at the property and asked advice as I sold real estate for8 years, I told her what to look for and advised her to talk to the neighbors! Many times the neighbors know why the property is being sold, they also will know any pertinent information! Also told her to go on google earth and look at surrounding area and to check faa website to see if it’s in a flight zone! She didn’t do anything I told her to do!
It is so much easier and cheaper buying land in other countries. Who in their right mind wants to buy land with a HOA. I'm not going to have anybody telling me that I can't have a 2" pin wheel in my front yard when I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for the land and house.
My experience has been to not talk to the neighbors. Everyone always lies and is pissed that they arent the ones able to buy the land and dont want anyone new around.
Friends bought in HOA, purchased a few small trees for their yard. Came home after work, they were torn up! Didn’t follow the same trees allowed by HOA!! No individuality- all ROBOTS living IDENTICALLY!! Living like the movie Stepford Wives!!🤪
Isn't it illegal for an HOA to tear them down themselves? That would be vandalism and trespassing? They would have to fine you and demand you take them down instead
Guessing you bought a home in Irvine, California 😂 that's a Stepford kind of place if ever there was one. Funny thing though, no vagrant infestation there? Ah, thats right. Rich people don't have to deal with the human waste (feces, urin, used condoms), other trash, and lude actions in "public" spaces like sidewalks, parks, and children's playgroynds... and your front door entry way. Yes, that last one is a newer bonus. Did you know that if mail can be delivered to your front door you apparently have no right to have vagrants removed from there unless they damage you or "your" property? These new laws (not voted for by the public Mr. Gruesom) are messed up.
They sent me a notice once saying there were ‘10 pebbles’ out of their place and on the driveway and needed to be placed back in whatever days, or else. I thought I was being pranked. I wasn’t.
@@dulcerodriguez3681 I can't even imagine being the kind of loser who has nothing better to do than walk through people's yards and telling them how to keep their home, nitpicking over pebbles! 😭
My parents have 57 acres, and when they went to add a 2nd house on the property for my grandmother, they found out they have to have 200 feet road front per house. Luckily they have a little over 700 feet road front so my sister plans on building the 3rd house. They have already had the county c ome out and get what they needed for the septic.
One's knowledge gained from experiences are priceless. What makes me more appreciative is that you have been sharing your knowledge when you really did not have to. Thanks a million.
@@snookmeister55That’s the problem, laws and regulations from the past keep stacking up and there’s just too much now. I think all laws and regulations should have to be reviewed and either removed or renewed every 5 years by the politicians. Force them to actually keep on top of everything instead of just stacking more and more regulations on top of one another.
You are idealizing somewhat. Even back in pioneer days, people had to be concerned with titles and deeds. In ancient Babylon, records were kept of land transactions. People forget what was said and done sometimes after 30 years. The ancients knew that.
Hi Community! I watched the entire video. It is the best video I’ve seen with serious talking points in one video. I’ve also read some of the many comments. I just wish that when people comment that they would share where they are finding allodial land in the USA. If the state has eminent domain, there is no allodial land. I have learned that In the United States, no state has true allodial land because all land is subject to eminent domain by the federal, state, and local governments. Allodial land is defined as land that is free, not owned by a lord or superior, and owned without obligation of vassalage or fealty. However, some states, including Nevada and Texas, have provisions in their state law that allow land to be considered allodial. Arkansas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are also states with provisions for allodial lands in their constitutions. I know for a fact that Texas can and will take land whether or not the owner wants to sell the land and doesn’t always pay fair market value. Thus far I cannot find allodial land for sale. Question: Is there a way to search for allodial land?
At about 11 it is mentioned about bringing in dirt, displacing water, and so forth. Here in Florida, my birth State, and State of Residence, that has been an issue in certain specific housing developments. That issue however, has not deterred many if not most of the major builders from building up massive overlays of fill dirt on hundreds if not thousands of acres and building houses, etc., on the built up land. If the land is swamp land or close to it, that does not deter the builders and developers. Now there are specific protected areas like the Green Swamp Land Management area that are quite strictly managed by the Land Use Office at County Level. However, every thing else is subject to developers bringing in as much fill dirt as needed, as well as building massive deep retention ponds to help manage the water in some instances.
They also used to drill holes in lenses of rock beneath the soil. The swamp would then drain. But, a few years later (when the builder was long gone), the drilled holes would plug up and, bam, your home keeps flooding.
FL Dept of Environmental Protection is over the Water Management Districts that SHOULD be mandating storm water management system in every new development to capture and offer some degree of treatment before sending the water off property. That is why you see all these man made lakes in developments. I had always thought it was a developer scheme to charge more money due to "waterfront lots". Since joining a CDD board I have learned a lot of the regs around this.
I was a builder. I once bought a lot in a subdivision on the court house steps... I later discovered that the water/sewer system owner had a sweetheart deal where he collected his Tap fee whether it was tapped or not. And it was not cheap. Lost money on that deal. Due diligence
I learned the hard way about set backs. I called and asked but got the wrong information. I was told the set back was measured from the center of the road. I did express that sounded strange and she assured me it was correct. My property was surrounded by 3 roads! My mobile home would fit with 9 feet excess on either side, so I thought. It was measured from the edge of the road so I lost 15 feet on each side. The mobile home company called the day before they were supposed to set the house to say they couldn't get a permit. I had to go to the variance committee which did not meet for another month and a half! Even then there was no guarantee I would get the variance. So there I was with paid for house, paid for and fully developed property and a completely uncertain future. Scary times! I got the variance and have been in my home for over a year now! I had tried to cover everything but was blindsided by one mistake. This guy is very helpful!!!
Dunno how it is elsewhere but in Ohio, NEVER buy with a pool without a POOL INSPECTION. It’s separate from the house inspection. House inspectors will check the outlets, sometimes, but they don’t check the actual pool. I work in the business and the amount of excited pool owners who just got the house and find out they need a $2k pump, a $10k liner, foundation repair, or replumb by taking up the entire yard is scary! They buy a house in a fancy HOA with all the house bells and whistles and go broken trying to rehab a 30+ year old sinkhole.
better yet: don't get a permanent pool in Ohio lmao. From Ohio but have lived in the desert for 20 years now, managed to maintain a crappy pool for 10 years without going broke but it wasn't easy even in best case weather
I love your channel. You have so much wisdom and knowledge regarding real estate and I feel your channel is a very valuable resource. Thank you for posting videos like this
It's true, land ownership is complicated especially if w/in city limits & crossing though another persons property which can change hands if someone dies or sells & the cross through land is in new hands. The new owners can keep someone out & that can turn ugly fast
Good video, I subbed. I bought land before when I was younger and found electric and phone lines where 1500 feet from my new land and the power company wanted $$$$$ to bring the electric to me. On water, check with neighbors and a well driller’s experience first. Had one well at 310 feet to get 10pm and another at 90ft at 120gpm.
Drilling for water must assume due diligence for groundwater assay and potential contamination from as much as fifty miles away. Or from the chicken farm 5 mi away. Or from strip mining runoff into your friendly singing local creek. Most of todays, most, is likely contaminated. Decide until proven wrong, your site is contaminated!
That's a nasty way to make someone else fix the problem. Why not make it part of subdivision law in the first place that you can't create a landlocked parcel?
I know there are a lot of land/homeowners who have had an easement work out well, but after my first and only experience with one - never again. 4-wheelers driving through my beautiful pasture to get to the creek (the easement was for creek access), he diverted a smaller creek (on the easement part) that ran through both of our properties so it would flow toward his land for his cows to drink. I will speak with a neighbor about an issue, but I don’t do feuds and suing one is anathema to me. I ended up moving, not because of that, but I wasn’t sad to leave a property with an easement behind.
This is why you never buy anything with a HOA tied to it, because as long as there’s no HOA then there’s nothing anyone can tell you about what you do or don’t do with it. Another thing to make sure of, aside from landlocks, is that you also get the water and mineral rights to the land in the purchase to avoid things like your land being contracted out from under you to allow for things like drilling for oil, etc.
Wayne!! Very helpful for a newbie aiming for first time home ownership. I took many notes. You turn the stresses of the unknown into fun discovery. Thank you MUCH!
Good video.Very good advice. I was a town engineer shared between 12 small rural towns. I saw all of the troubles that you talked about, plus botched surveys, neighbors trying to steal land or claim a right of way through the new owners' land. In one case a realtor sold a guy 13 acres which turned out to be only 3. She knew it all along but was used to her lawyer fixing things for her. Fortunately, the buyer was a retired state police captain. His BIL was the persecuting attorney for the next county. She lost her license and had to pay big time. My BIL sold the mineral rights under the family house in Jennings, LA. Fortunately, the company was able to set up off of the property and drilled offset for many of the neighborhood properties. Good Luck, Rick
Don't forget zoning, what are you allowed to do with the property, type of improvements allowed or not and if the property is fee simple or a leasehold.
Thanks for the invaluable info. Last week I dodged a bullet, looking at a home in WA timber country, I called the county planning to find out who borders the lot. Oh my two different timber companies so I called one and he said they would be 'clearing' the land shortly and it could take 3-6 months. Phew!! there went my country peace and quiet. LOL I am still searching.
I came to Washington two years ago to buy land. All I've run into was scams! Beautiful state, but it's so politically corrupt, I can't wait to find my forever property NOT in Washington!
After that 3-6 months it takes them to harvest the timber you will have decades of peace and quiet and more abundant wildlife as the forest is regenerating and growing. If you are looking at land with mature timber on the properties surrounding it and you want guaranteed peace and quiet you either need to be buying a big enough chunk of land that you can get lost in the middle of it or you need to know your neighbors are logging their land off soon, otherwise you never know when the neighbors might decide to harvest the timber (that includes state and county land)
Washington seems impossible to find in tact timberland. The government's in bed with the timber barrons. Shit's criminal. You can google a map showing how the feds own pretty much the entire cascade region
Thanks Wayne. When i bought a few years ago limit was 4 bags of waste per week, then 3 and now 2. It´s fine for me since there´s not limit on recyclable. For more bags you pay extra. Just to say that present regulations can change. We all have a big forest cool isn´t ? Ya but summer dominant wind is cut by it. So we bake in summer and freeze in winter.... Trees is so cool until heavy snow broke some of them with tons of branches. No urgency, but a lot of time and work to clear the mess. You see land or a house that you like ? Close your eyes, deep breath and imagine the same photo in all the worst scenarios. You still like it ? Go.
@14:00. Some land simply won't perc. But the septic guys in the area should know that already and they'll install your septic anyway. They'll still do all the tests, but they'll still do the install.
I moved into a Chattanooga apartment sight unseen. Thankfully I was just a renter, but it was smack dab in between 2 chicken processing plants. I could hardly bare being outside!!
One more thing-know who maintains the road that provides access to the property. Is it the state, county, or municipality, OR is it a PRIVATE road? If it is a private road, the owner is responsible for maintenance, not the state, county, or municipality. In some cases, there may be multiple properties serviced by the private road.
Great shared video, many ppl are unaware of the simple realities when buying land. Everyone needs to do their due diligence and ensure they actually have a buildable lot that is affordable to be buildable.
I sold a property several years ago. The buyer specifically did not want the Mineral and Timber rights. He purchased it for Hunting those big Ohio Bucks... The front 5 acers is a steep hill side covered in old growth Black Walnut. Those trees are 3' feet in diameter. The land is smack in the middle of where they are drilling for NG or fracking...... I am tired of paying the $25/year the county charges for those rights... guess what is about to happen?
I remember when those fracking companies paid big bucks, in the late 90s, if you owned the property. I wasn't aware of a tax/fee attached per county or state. (If that's what you're referencing towards.) We're looking because our house is too big and it isn't necessary to have it at our age. Thank you for the info.
Governments (large to tiny) tax everything. Timber and Mineral rights are usually very inexpensive. I did see a homeowner closer into town than I am get a cease and desist order when he started cutting down trees. They were not in town, but were surrounded by HOAs and those went to the county and got the order filed. Apparently it was OK to bulldoze 200 acers of trees for their subdivisions, but how dare that land owner do something to their precious view. @@goingagainstthegrain
If there is standing water or evidence of periodic standing water (water-stained leaves), hydrophilic plants, or low-lying areas BE SURE that the Army Corp of Engineers does not hold jurisdiction over your land as a "wetland". You'd be surprised how loosely they interpret it.
My dad gave me what I consider pretty good advice...never buy a house that sits on the low side of a road. My home sits on a hill about 15 feet elevated above the road. There would have to be one hell of an epic flood to get me.
My property AZ was in a flood zone. The house itself wasn't in the flood zone and was built above the base flood level. The flood insurance premium was still $5k
As a retired land surveyor with 40 years of experience I would advise people that want to get a survey to have a written contract with the surveyor outlining everything that you expect to get out of the survey. Many people might deal with a surveyor once in their lives and have no idea what is included in a survey. A basic land survey will set the property corners and show any encroachments. This will not include any flood information, topography, easements, legal access or improvements (these can be added at an additional cost). Also demand that the surveyor prepare a map for you and that he records it with the county recorder.
Thank you.
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How much does that usually cost?
@@NanasHealthyKitchen That depends on the state and likely county you're in. But typically I would say just finding the 4 corners $1500 if the land is fairly easy to walk. If they have to cut their way through blackberries, add more to it. But I would get all the extra's if you're very serious about buying the land he mentioned above. It's well worth every penny and if you don't have $3000 to do it, can you honestly afford the property?
@@crazycdn8327 wanted to add to this, you can also sell the report to the seller for future buyers if you decide not to buy the land
I had a buddy buy a 5 acre land lock property and nobody wanted to sell him a portion for an easement so my buddy put a helipad on that property and lands his personal chopper there daily. 2 months later one of the surrounding property owners came and offered an easement for sale cause they were tired of hearing the helicopter 😂
That is awesome! 😂
I love guys with balls!
That's awesome but at that point I would have said, "Sorry. I can't afford to BUY that from you because I spent all my money on this helicopter. Now, if you were to GIFT it to me..." 😉
@@r.rodriguez4991you can get a small helicopter for the same price as a brand new civic
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1. Avoid landlocked
2. Understand deed restrictions
3. Know who owns neighboring property
4. Know flood zone
5. Trees, dirt, water, minerals: know local rules/hoa. Avoid fines. Have rights
6. Get perk test, know if property can get permit for septic tank
THANK YOU!!!
Perk tests can sometimes cost several thousand dollars, and current landowner may not allow one to be dug without a sale contract. More importantly, if it doesn’t pass perk, are you okay with the alternative type of septic required. Good info for new land buyers.
I can't thank you enough!! 🙏🙏
Perc. You guys trying to sound like you know something, it is PERC! Percolation test. Yes it also stands for something. Perc. Good lord!
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Love Wayne Turner. This video should be required viewing for all buyers. I always require realtors to: 1) provide plat/GIS information showing who owns surrounding property. 2) provide FEMA flood zone designation. 3) provide wetlands/flood plain mapping. 4) offer buyers agent contracts that apply to one specific deal, and no others. (you never want to commit wholly to one agent/company for all inclusive long time periods). 5) agent must walk the property with me and either be armed, or allow me to carry a weapon, if laws allow it. You NEVER know what you will encounter in the woods. 6) every offer must have the soil test contingency on it, you must know if seasonal high water tables will require a $22,000 mound system.
These are the minimum requirements. Sadly, most realtors (real turds) will run the other way when the buyer requires them to make an ounce of effort.
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my real estate agent didn't even know to look at flood maps.. I eliminated a bunch of prospects without leaving the house with just flood maps, old mine maps
Thank you very useful to real estate agents
How about the asking delineation period especially with wet land?
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Also check for a well. Water and if you can collect rain water and have chickens, etc.
Exactly. Pigs are heavy restricted.
Not in D.C. or state capitols.@@TheRealWayneTurner
Chickens, geese, turkeys, sheep/ pigs/ goats, horses, cows.
anybody can collect rainwater. doesnt matter where. wow a barral on the ground with a screen.
@nicholasmcvety9644 legally, no, not everyone can. In the state of California it is illegal without a permit to collect and store rainwater. I believe there's at least one other state with a similar restriction.
the one important takeaway from this video is stay away from properties that have a HOA.
My mom lived in a townhome with a hoa. Our first experience with hoa’s-they were such a pain!
I'm looking for no restrictions and no sub division and no HOA I'm a ham radio operator and don't want angry neighbors. It's hard to find land like that I have a 5.6 acres with no restrictions in North Carolina but my wife don't want to live there. I really don't either. I want everything: views, creek and no restrictions let me qualify views don't have to be a mountain top just a nice view of the mountain. 73
Stay away from countries that let fussy neighbours interfere with your freedom. There are things that do need to be banned - building a dam that's going to fail and flood out other people's homes, bulldozing rare habitat, releasing unprocessed wastewater into the street, that sort of thing - but when your neighbours are allowed to take away your right to do harmless stuff like keeping a trailer in your carport or growing vegetables in your front yard, that's time to find somewhere else to live.
99% of HOA's SUCK.
Yeah HOAs but not just HOAs. Restrictions are hid unless you see the documents or deed. It seems like real estate people want to hide that part. I always ask. 73
P. S. I forgot one thing county has their own rules which are not DIY friendly, you need a building permit and a contractor to build, to wire your own house you need to take a test then you cannot sell that house for so many years. Even though my property is unrestricted you still need to follow county rules. I won't go through all the county ordinances like 500 of them. 73
From my parents house you could both hear the train at night and smell the sewage plant when the wind shifted. Neither the train nor the sewage plant are close on the map, so only a local who lived in that area would be able to warn you about it. Also, not every undesirable thing shows up on a map. They found an old dump in their backyard full of rusty metal and trash that was hidden in the old trees that blocked it.
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Trains aren't that bad. You get used to them. Sewage smell on the other hand is something else entirely.
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As a former dirt attorney, i thought this was an excellent overview. The one thing I'd add is a phase 1 environmental assessment, and possibly, depending on location, wetlands identification. Surveyors often onit wetlands designation unless it's already on a base map.
Also, if you're going to need a well, never believe what the seller says it's going to cost without checking yourself.
i wrote 6 notes from this video. from your other videos, so far, i have written total 36 notes. lawyer and real estate agent if the seller will be in a lot of headache answering these. THANKS. sure, i have identified ine CROOKED real estate agent that wanted to sell me a lemon of land, and these notes helped me to identify her and kick her out.
Thanks for sharing. Super happy to help.
Would you be willing to share your notes?
Small headache now saves problems later.
@@Edgar-gx6yn The answer seems to be a big "NO"!
@@Edgar-gx6yn i wrote them on paper. will type them and put them on my webserver and send the link here. today is 29 may 2024. in next 2-3 days will do it.
I used to own a few acres in Ohio. At some point I started clearing around the overgrown barn and fretted about why someone would have put on it a too-tall sliding front door. The inside was dark and catching water, and the dirt was banked around the outside perimeter. Thinking about the house and the crack in the one basement wall, I realized with a sickening feeling that the property was subsiding. I researched this and learned that in the 1800s their were coal mines several hundred feet below ground. About 20 miles east of me the map of the mines stopped. In those locations, subsistence insurance was mandatory, but in my location it was not. Although it was known that the maps were old and incomplete, and poorly done in the first place.
Thank you.
@susanmoore9839 I reside in Ohio, I wondered if this was in Suffield township? There is some weird happenings there. The old underground mines are being filled with out of state waste. Since it’s a township, there isn’t strong government regulations to keep this sort of contamination out. I’m sorry 😞 you had such a disappointing experience.
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Wouldn't that cause A problem creating methane gas followed by land movement?
@@almi3767 They don't care . They won't be around when it does
The first 2 points I just learned the hard way. My neighbors are making it Hell!!
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Excellent video Wayne. As a retired real estate and construction professional I can attest that you are correct on every point. I would only add, don't hire the cheapest lawyer. Hire the guy who is THE real estate pro in your area and be wary of any property that is subject to restrictive covenants no matter how harmless they seem.
Good advice, and that goes for every profession, higher the one with the best reputation. The others are typically far inferior.
Real estate pro? More like land development crook
My family has always owned at the top of a hill or bluff, because floods happen (rainy seasons in otherwise dry areas). If someone tells you it’s because you like looking down on others, tell them “no, I don’t like dealing with a flooded house.”
2. Don’t “clean up” or flatten/fill-in dry creeks. In a flood, those dry creeks and their plants reduce the height of standing water by absorbing a lot more than you realize.
3. Know how deep the septic tank is on a new build. Three houses were built in an area that floods during heavy rain. The land had been built up a few feet for the houses, but the day everyone started moving in a rare monsoon started - septics popped out of the ground and back-flowed into the houses, ruining furniture and box contents.
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That sounds like the making of both a horror movie, and a lawyers dream.
I notice the wise man away from the village is ALWAYS uphill in stories- not near the river.
Likely was inproperly installed. Septic tanks are supposed to be filled with water after install, and before burying, for this exact reason.
Sacramento, california had flooding one spring in the 1980s because development had obstructed some normally small creeks.
This is why I love where I live. ZERO building restrictions.
Not yet
Not just for you but for properties around you. So don't complain then they build a pig form next door
I know this is for land BUT, when looking at a house, a real practical thing is to go back during rain, esp a downpour and see if there are leaks or drainage issues.
Very wise information.
I've seen the water creep in from deluge rain, which we get in Florida.
It can be fixed by paying for a drainage system, but the extra cost is a factor that should be considered.
Also talk to surrounding neighbors! They will have stories to tell about the area that could make all the difference!
That can be hard to do from far away, but there's a few tricks. One way is to use social media to talk to locals. Another is to peruse news stories, social media of locals, and past weather reports to see what info you can glean. Also look for as many aerial photos as you can find. I've found a few places where aerial photos showed grassy fields that become shallow ponds in some years. Best wishes.
Absolutely!!! My husband and I were looking at houses. Our fave, it turns out, had standing water in the front and rear yards. We decided to go back twice in 4 weeks, after rain, each time, waiting about days after the rain stopped. I'm glad we did that.
Alternatively, go anytime with a very bright flashlight (they are prolific now) and look at the underside of the rooftops, are there water stains?
Every video I watch is every ton of knowledge I get. Great job Mr Turner.
Most perk tests are out dated. Soil analysis is the typical report for septic systems. All great info. Most folks don't listen or assume. Thx!
If looking in the country for a good place to build a home, look for properties with old home sites. Years ago there was almost a science to finding home sites. They knew what they were doing!
I have one I'll sell. The barn has all new siding, windows and doors. It does need the north side of the roof replaced AGAIN due a derecho wind event awhile back. Has septic, electric, cable tv, fiber optic internet, and propane tank. It has a farmhouse built in 1906. House is liveable, but needs some work or replaced. On 4.16 acres. Nice neighbors, with the closest one over 1/2 mile away. If I could get what my county says it worth, I'd be happy. If I could get what Zillow says its worth I'd be totally tickled pink with purple spots. It has a number of trees that the derecho knocked down that still need cleaned up.
@@edswope28where is it located?
@@edswope28where is this property located?
I once bought a half acre lot in southern michigan near the indiana border. I got a lot of verbals from the realtor and township people. After the purchase I wanted to put my RV on the lot while I start the building process. My plan was to install a shed for my tools while I clear the land, then build a garage for other things and then build a stick built home. During this time I would keep my RV on the site while working the land. This was going to be our vacation home and would travel to the lot with our rv and we could be there on the lot for a week or a month working. Apparently the Township people were not 100% about the rules or permits needed. For several months were would acquire a permit for our RV that was good for 14 days and we would just renew it every 14 days if we stay longer, no problem. We had a shed delivered, power pole installed on the property, had a connection to the city sewer system. So at this point the our RV had connection to power and sewer. We held off on the water since the city water line was on the other side and was going to cost extra to dig a line under the street to our property. The neighbor was kind enough to let us connect to one of their water spigots. The lot was like a forest with waist high grass and vegetation. My wife and I physically did a lot of the work ourshelves clearing the land and getting ready to build. Our plan was going to take a couple years as we lived 1600 miles away in Arizona. I needed to get trash pickup but I could not get it without a physical street address. The trash service was tied to the water service but I didn't have water service to our lot yet. Anyway the township and county people that said what was ok started to reverse the ok to maybe and then no. The township have not dealt with my suitiation in many years since I bought one of the last empty lots in the township and the land had been vacation for over a 100 years. The county said sure I could put a shed there but no garage until I submit plans a=nd a contract with a construction company to build my house and garage. I was also told that I can not have a detached garage, the garage had to be part of the house or connected to the house. I said I wasn't ready to build the house yet. We township and county had us jumping thru so many loops and were exhausted. We we told we could no longer get a permit for our RV, that the township office didn't understand the rules with the permit for the RV. Turns out the permit was for an rv only if there was a house already there or a construction contract in had. The County said you got 24 hours to remove your RV from the property. I guess we got got up in the middle of the township and county updating their rules and policies. Since we financially could not build on the property within 6 months we finally gave up and sold the property and moved on. Didn't really lose any money only a lot of blood sweat and tears. Another lesson learned. We were 4 block within the township, if we had been outside the township only the county rules would apply. It seems like the bigger the lot the more things you can do on it, city or township rules don't apply.
Sad to hear that. Mi has become a messed up state for everything. Trying to sell my MIL property after she passed in 2019 was a nightmare with some of the same issues you had.
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There are Control Freaks and I mean Dedicated Bastard Control Freaks, both as Neighbors as well as County Land Use Officials in some instances. Large Development Companies have Dirt Experience Lawyers on speed Dial, to take care of the light work and intervene with the County Commissions to get variances and changes to long term plans, when Land Use Offices try to pose problems to them, here in FL. The average guy or gal sometimes gets a break, but can tell you in certain Counties, such as Polk County FL, the average person is over ruled by Over Lords.
Wow. And this is the land of the free?
@@msboon6078 I on occasion mention to others (not so much in comments) that this Nation has Devolved (Instead of Evolved) into the Land of The Fee. ( And Home of the Credit Card Slave. ) In recent Posts I have taken up the call that the Republican Party or Independent Party should take up a Crusade for what could be described as "Allodial Title" (It could be Non-Taxed Title or some thing similar) - any way a Political Movement to develop and implement thru Legislation thru out the US a drastic alteration of the present system of land ownership by Individual Citizens (Not Foreign Entities, Corporations, nor similar legal structures.) so that one's Home, Homestead and attached Land, could not be subject to taxation, nor to sale or taking for taxation purposes. A New System of taxation - if needed - would have to be developed taking no account that after paying off one's debts for ones home and land that there would be no further taxation of that home and land - that it would be well and truly one's own land and could NOT be taken by ANY Government Federal, State , Local, HOA, etc., for non-payment of taxes. Such a Political Movement would increase Home ownership and would truly increase "Freedom" in our Nation. It would also increase the Political Fortunes of the Party which championed it, but not the Democrat Party which is not inclined toward private ownership of property.
I went to look at land once and did talk to the neighbors. They were really throwing shade on the land but not giving any real reasons as to why I shouldn't buy it. There wasn't anything wrong with the land. I found out later they had been hunting on it and didn't want to have to give up trespassing on the seller's property. There were nicer lots of land anyway so I passed, plus I didn't want to live nearby those weirdos anyway so I saw it as a win. The point of the story is sometimes the neighbors will just straight up lie about the property next to them for sale because they don't want anyone moving in nearby. Your choice ultimately if you want to go ahead with the purchase. Depends on how big the land is, but it does say something about what kind of people your potential neighbors might be.
Yes, before purchasing raw land, I suggest having a test done to determine if the water is potable and safe for consumption by humans just in case there is no rural or city water option for connection. This happened to a young couple who purchased 40 acres of raw land in the country. They planned on having a mobile home moved in on the land but changed their minds after learning that the well water was not potable. Great video. Thanks for helping educate the public on these important issues.
I spent $10k+ on a well and pipes to only find out that the water was not potable without reverse osmosis. Radium. The whole town was full of radium and sulphur well water. They all had RO systems or the trash just drank the toxic water and got cancer.
. Talk to the residents before you buy.
... and they couldn't afford a FILTER, even just for Drinking water? The rest would be for bath and garden and sewer.
However, I would only have one requirement: there must be a stream with clea, potable water and fish in it. NO HOA, where old mentally deficient karens scheme how to make problems to people who happen to be in their HOA. They vote for themselves and because nobody gives a sht, they always win with even just few votes.
I worked 12 years with the city and 18 more with the utility - started surveying in streets & hghwys and then sewer and then water and sewer and finally the utility gobbled it all up and I learned all the stuff that you said mr. Turner - and its common sense stuff - but most people just arent aware of these things - but when you work on a civil service survey crew (for 31 years) you see all the horror stories - you are doing a good thing mr. Turner - for ALL concerned!
You say you worked for the city and utilities for 31 yrs to learn this stuff and then say it's "common sense."
Most people would 100% rely on a realtor or lawyer to tell them most of this stuff and otherwise have no idea. Most of this isn't common knowledge to anyone except maybe in professions related to real estate and development.
I went to sell a vacant acre. Turns out the previous owner never paid fines for illegal dumping. After ten years, Code Enforcement penalties had grown to more than $1-million! Thank God for title insurance. I didn't have to pay a dime. They should have found this when I bought the property. Their bad. Their dime.
Very clear and helpful : thanks! I'm working extra to keep my ROI flowing into my mortgage payment. it's the last piece of debt i have and i'm a bit overeager to see it gone. Any index fund or stock tips to help that get done?
I think stocks will plummet further before actually experiencing steady growth and there are still quite a few stocks that makes for a good buy this season, you just have to do your research, but to be on the safer side and not second guess your market decisions, I’d suggest you reach out to a proper investment manager for guidance, they’re better equipped at understanding market patterns/movements and adjusting portfolio to match up with these market trends.
my portfolio is down over 23% j and It’s been that way fsince 2022 and I really could use professional help, I’m close to retirement. have you worked with an asset manager before and could recommend any?
She's Rebecca Noblett Roberts. I choose to delegate my excesses to her because of her expertise. I suggest you look her up.
I can understand why she is so busy because she has impressive credentials and a terrific resume. But I still set up a meeting with her.
This should be a scared straight video on land purchasing!!
there should be a Scared Straight episode about being gay
Never buy land under the purview of an HOA. Or if there is an option to join an HOA, DON'T. NEVER buy land that doesn't allow you to install a well and septic. Both are NECESSARY to maintain true independence from local or corporate control.
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HOA's keep people from turning their properties into junk yards. Brings down the value of the property also mobile homes some not all are junky looking.
@@Mike-01234 A fair statement, Mike, however, there is no stopping EVER the HOA ability to add more controls, restrictions and MONTHLY COST so the bloat causes bloat causes bloat causes---- a second mortgage payment maybe 20 years in when you are mostly paying off your real mortgage.
It is EVIL. But, like a prison, each cell is precise and exactly defined by majority and not ever by YOU.
I will live and die free (except for the property tax, another insanity).
@@Mike-01234and to power trip over every little thing.
Read your HOA bylaws before you buy- some can raise your dues by 25% each year!
Thank you so much! I’m hoping buy property and have a small regenerative farm for my family. This information is so valuable.
Glad it was helpful!
Firstly, THANK YOU, Wayne, for this video! I first came across it months before we looked at properties out of state. Still hunting, but this info helped me select the right agent. We checked out a lot of properties, walked each one, slipping through barbed wire and hiking a bit when needed. Actually being on site gave us so much clarity and clued us toward more questions we needed answered by local authorities. Being able to act quickly while in town scouting helped tremendously in learning and deciding further. So thanks!
When I see, "Seller to keep mineral rights." in a land description...I immediately move on.
Same, unless it is a prime location and literally dirt cheap… like $2k or less per acre
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What's the point of them doing that? Just trying to get more money out of the property, or is it something else?
@@Nighthawk20000 it's nothing but pure being over smart or down right fraud.
I've owned several properties. Wayne is exactly right. Do your research. Ask your realtor or county tax/ survey office. Find out everything you can about a property before making an offer.
if you have a good neighbors, you have every good thing in life✅🌹❤
I bought a house in the city, no HOA 🎉 but … didn’t realize it was near a flight path for landing planes, the railroad a mile or so away honked horns periodically throughout the night which I could hear clearly and lastly the super market that was behind our neighborhood had semi trucks parked with their diesel engines idling all night as they unloaded. What happens in daytime hours may not represent overnight expectations.
it's amazing how loud trains and planes sound at night compared to daytime. I have stayed at a friend's house who has a railroad nearby. in daytime you barely hear the train. At night, the ground shakes and it sounds like the train is about to come through your house.
“People think they’re buying land but they’re really buying a bundle of rights”
-Jeff from the Planning & Zoning Dept
Haven't heard this phrase since law school
You never own your land. The Government does. You just live there until you can no longer pay taxes on it.
I learned this in real estate school. This is how it was done many years ago.
Tru! We're paying for land which is originally belongs to nobody!
One other HUGE point I would make is to check to see if the city or county is levying a special assessment tax on that land. That happened to me. The special assessment turned out to be about 10 times the cost of the property tax annually. Don't buy in crooked California City.
@@dondiddly8942 I'm thinking of buying there. Tell me more about this town. It looks depressing
Illinois, too. Chicago makes taxes in the state unbearable
Why the fuck would anyone go to California? 😂
The information that you imparted to the public is priceless!. My husband and I are planning to buy a piece of raw land up north. I just so happen to run across your video and I watched the whole thing. You talked about so many things I was not even aware of. Now I know the pros and the cons of purchasing a piece of land and what to look out for. Also I'll continue watching your other videos. Thank you so much Mr Turner.
Check out his others as well,please?
If you buy land with homes already there - even if they are or are not condemned - don't assume there is a septic system. I lived in my house since 2000 and had to install a brand new septic system because my house and the house next door were sharing one system.
How much does that typically cost?
@@Glamyougirl17depends on if gravity cheaper but if engineered pump type more. Say 5k to 20k?
NEVER BUY WITH AN HOA RESTRICTION
What's wrong with an animalistic cult that bullies, harasses, controls, and abuses their neighbors for not conforming to a bunch of ridiculous standards that prevent you from potentially enjoying your property in the name of appealing to other cultists who may want to move in and join in the totalitarianism? 😂
Exactly. Do your best to avoid
Yes sir
I was about to buy a beautiful piece of land in Temecula (California)but when I found out they had HOA I gave up. It was only $3 monthly. Very cheap, right ? I seriously don't want to pay $3 to have someone telling me what to do on "my land" .
I heard that in South Carolina, as a buyer you're not even told all the restrictions prior to closing day. How insane is that??
There are also some towns or cities where you can buy houses super super cheap, but these are usually dilapidated, abandoned and unsafe for occupation. The minute you gain title you are responsible for upkeep and can be heavily fined for an unkempt and unsafe property. There's a video here on UA-cam about Pine Bluff Arkansas. You want to watch this before you buy houses or property. This vid tells about a man who bought 70 properties in Pine Bluff and was fined $35,000 for one property alone. He ended up selling his houses for $1 each just to get out from under them.
Look, this You-tuber is literally doing all of us a favor, he does not seem to have a vested interest other than wanting a click on his channel, which is easy to do with no downside. It’s unfortunate, tragic, disastrous, you name it, but the world is what it is and attorneys many times tend to control most everything (most of whom should be horsewhipped daily!). Personally, I have this and other valuable videos saved and know how to retrieve them. As a land buyer, it can be a big-time hassle but by following his advice you will save more heartache (and money!) than you can imagine!
My sister bought a house an hour away, they went on a Saturday to look at it and put a contract. Didn’t step foot back on property until they closed and quickly discovered that 300 yds away on the other side of a wooded lot the county has a waste rock and dirt dump site. Monday through Friday all they hear from 8-5 is the tailgates slamming shut on the dump trucks!
She called me b4 she went to look at the property and asked advice as I sold real estate for8 years, I told her what to look for and advised her to talk to the neighbors! Many times the neighbors know why the property is being sold, they also will know any pertinent information! Also told her to go on google earth and look at surrounding area and to check faa website to see if it’s in a flight zone! She didn’t do anything I told her to do!
It is so much easier and cheaper buying land in other countries. Who in their right mind wants to buy land with a HOA. I'm not going to have anybody telling me that I can't have a 2" pin wheel in my front yard when I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for the land and house.
Easier if you don't wanna be in the U.S. in the first place.
Rules are there because you need to co-exist with other people. No rulebook is just bad planning. You sound like a child.
@@elisaa9981bullshit! You sound like a communist. Other people have no right nor say over one’s personal property
I agree with you. My ex and I specifically sought non-HOA properties 30 years ago. Our place, our right to live in peace (20 acres of Heaven).
You don’t have to buy in a hoa tho
You’re very thorough Wayne with your real estate knowledge.
I appreciate that!
Thank you so much. We are new to land buying and i just keep absorbing your videos!!
Thank you Wayne, truly appreciate your knowledge!
Knowledge is power😊 I’ve been teaching this to my children. Absolutely ❤
My experience has been to not talk to the neighbors. Everyone always lies and is pissed that they arent the ones able to buy the land and dont want anyone new around.
Interesting thank you for the tips didnt know about a minimum acreage/road frontage requirement for driveway easements
Glad it was helpful!
These short informational videos are gold. Thanks Wayne
Friends bought in HOA, purchased a few small trees for their yard. Came home after work, they were torn up! Didn’t follow the same trees allowed by HOA!! No individuality- all ROBOTS living IDENTICALLY!! Living like the movie Stepford Wives!!🤪
Isn't it illegal for an HOA to tear them down themselves? That would be vandalism and trespassing?
They would have to fine you and demand you take them down instead
Guessing you bought a home in Irvine, California 😂 that's a Stepford kind of place if ever there was one. Funny thing though, no vagrant infestation there? Ah, thats right. Rich people don't have to deal with the human waste (feces, urin, used condoms), other trash, and lude actions in "public" spaces like sidewalks, parks, and children's playgroynds... and your front door entry way. Yes, that last one is a newer bonus. Did you know that if mail can be delivered to your front door you apparently have no right to have vagrants removed from there unless they damage you or "your" property? These new laws (not voted for by the public Mr. Gruesom) are messed up.
They sent me a notice once saying there were ‘10 pebbles’ out of their place and on the driveway and needed to be placed back in whatever days, or else. I thought I was being pranked. I wasn’t.
@@dulcerodriguez3681 Some people are a waste of brain matter.
@@dulcerodriguez3681 I can't even imagine being the kind of loser who has nothing better to do than walk through people's yards and telling them how to keep their home, nitpicking over pebbles! 😭
I don't think I've ever watched one of your videos and thought it a waste of time.... you deliver some of the best content on UA-cam. Thank you.
This is a wealth of information. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us!
My parents have 57 acres, and when they went to add a 2nd house on the property for my grandmother, they found out they have to have 200 feet road front per house. Luckily they have a little over 700 feet road front so my sister plans on building the 3rd house. They have already had the county c ome out and get what they needed for the septic.
Yes, we grow together by learning from each others, thanks
One's knowledge gained from experiences are priceless. What makes me more appreciative is that you have been sharing your knowledge when you really did not have to. Thanks a million.
Everything has to be so f**** ridiculous these days. Gone are the days of "I'll trade you two horses for a chunk of land"
Exactly 😂
Depending upon what you mean, regulation has existed since colonial days and post war for independence.
@@snookmeister55That’s the problem, laws and regulations from the past keep stacking up and there’s just too much now. I think all laws and regulations should have to be reviewed and either removed or renewed every 5 years by the politicians. Force them to actually keep on top of everything instead of just stacking more and more regulations on top of one another.
@@AubatronI don't like regulation either, to say, the least, and every day lately I scheme about how to escape it.
You are idealizing somewhat. Even back in pioneer days, people had to be concerned with titles and deeds. In ancient Babylon, records were kept of land transactions. People forget what was said and done sometimes after 30 years. The ancients knew that.
I'm not even buying land, but this was very educational. Thank you.
Hi Community! I watched the entire video. It is the best video I’ve seen with serious talking points in one video. I’ve also read some of the many comments. I just wish that when people comment that they would share where they are finding allodial land in the USA. If the state has eminent domain, there is no allodial land. I have learned that In the United States, no state has true allodial land because all land is subject to eminent domain by the federal, state, and local governments. Allodial land is defined as land that is free, not owned by a lord or superior, and owned without obligation of vassalage or fealty. However, some states, including Nevada and Texas, have provisions in their state law that allow land to be considered allodial. Arkansas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are also states with provisions for allodial lands in their constitutions. I know for a fact that Texas can and will take land whether or not the owner wants to sell the land and doesn’t always pay fair market value. Thus far I cannot find allodial land for sale. Question: Is there a way to search for allodial land?
Good question
So happy I stumbled onto your channel here. GREAT ADVICE!!!!!
Thank you. More helpful information to come.
Wayne, thank you for the information! You are awesome!
At about 11 it is mentioned about bringing in dirt, displacing water, and so forth. Here in Florida, my birth State, and State of Residence, that has been an issue in certain specific housing developments. That issue however, has not deterred many if not most of the major builders from building up massive overlays of fill dirt on hundreds if not thousands of acres and building houses, etc., on the built up land. If the land is swamp land or close to it, that does not deter the builders and developers. Now there are specific protected areas like the Green Swamp Land Management area that are quite strictly managed by the Land Use Office at County Level. However, every thing else is subject to developers bringing in as much fill dirt as needed, as well as building massive deep retention ponds to help manage the water in some instances.
Absolutely!! Visit the land on a heavy rainy day. 😂
They also used to drill holes in lenses of rock beneath the soil. The swamp would then drain. But, a few years later (when the builder was long gone), the drilled holes would plug up and, bam, your home keeps flooding.
FL Dept of Environmental Protection is over the Water Management Districts that SHOULD be mandating storm water management system in every new development to capture and offer some degree of treatment before sending the water off property. That is why you see all these man made lakes in developments. I had always thought it was a developer scheme to charge more money due to "waterfront lots". Since joining a CDD board I have learned a lot of the regs around this.
@@carlbrothersfunny how enlightening being on the other side can be.
I was a builder. I once bought a lot in a subdivision on the court house steps... I later discovered that the water/sewer system owner had a sweetheart deal where he collected his Tap fee whether it was tapped or not. And it was not cheap. Lost money on that deal. Due diligence
I learned the hard way about set backs. I called and asked but got the wrong information. I was told the set back was measured from the center of the road. I did express that sounded strange and she assured me it was correct. My property was surrounded by 3 roads! My mobile home would fit with 9 feet excess on either side, so I thought. It was measured from the edge of the road so I lost 15 feet on each side. The mobile home company called the day before they were supposed to set the house to say they couldn't get a permit. I had to go to the variance committee which did not meet for another month and a half! Even then there was no guarantee I would get the variance. So there I was with paid for house, paid for and fully developed property and a completely uncertain future. Scary times! I got the variance and have been in my home for over a year now! I had tried to cover everything but was blindsided by one mistake. This guy is very helpful!!!
Dunno how it is elsewhere but in Ohio, NEVER buy with a pool without a POOL INSPECTION. It’s separate from the house inspection. House inspectors will check the outlets, sometimes, but they don’t check the actual pool. I work in the business and the amount of excited pool owners who just got the house and find out they need a $2k pump, a $10k liner, foundation repair, or replumb by taking up the entire yard is scary! They buy a house in a fancy HOA with all the house bells and whistles and go broken trying to rehab a 30+ year old sinkhole.
better yet: don't get a permanent pool in Ohio lmao. From Ohio but have lived in the desert for 20 years now, managed to maintain a crappy pool for 10 years without going broke but it wasn't easy even in best case weather
@@DJ-jm9gi I second that. People just don’t get how much money and work it is, and for 4ish months out of the year… not for me.
Thank you for all of your boots on the ground information about buying and building on land.
I love your channel. You have so much wisdom and knowledge regarding real estate and I feel your channel is a very valuable resource. Thank you for posting videos like this
It's true, land ownership is complicated especially if w/in city limits & crossing though another persons property which can change hands if someone dies or sells & the cross through land is in new hands. The new owners can keep someone out & that can turn ugly fast
Good video, I subbed. I bought land before when I was younger and found electric and phone lines where 1500 feet from my new land and the power company wanted $$$$$ to bring the electric to me. On water, check with neighbors and a well driller’s experience first. Had one well at 310 feet to get 10pm and another at 90ft at 120gpm.
Drilling for water must assume due diligence for groundwater assay and potential contamination from as much as fifty miles away. Or from the chicken farm 5 mi away. Or from strip mining runoff into your friendly singing local creek. Most of todays, most, is likely contaminated. Decide until proven wrong, your site is contaminated!
In NC if a road is nearby you have to "Give" the landlocked owner access. GIVE.
That's a nasty way to make someone else fix the problem. Why not make it part of subdivision law in the first place that you can't create a landlocked parcel?
@@tealkerberus748because that would make too much sense.
I know there are a lot of land/homeowners who have had an easement work out well, but after my first and only experience with one - never again. 4-wheelers driving through my beautiful pasture to get to the creek (the easement was for creek access), he diverted a smaller creek (on the easement part) that ran through both of our properties so it would flow toward his land for his cows to drink. I will speak with a neighbor about an issue, but I don’t do feuds and suing one is anathema to me. I ended up moving, not because of that, but I wasn’t sad to leave a property with an easement behind.
This is why you never buy anything with a HOA tied to it, because as long as there’s no HOA then there’s nothing anyone can tell you about what you do or don’t do with it. Another thing to make sure of, aside from landlocks, is that you also get the water and mineral rights to the land in the purchase to avoid things like your land being contracted out from under you to allow for things like drilling for oil, etc.
You have to know that you know that you know...Best advice ever..!
In Arizona i cant build within 50’ of a flood zone and in Vermont its allowed with proper designer plan. Do your research.
Wayne!! Very helpful for a newbie aiming for first time home ownership. I took many notes. You turn the stresses of the unknown into fun discovery.
Thank you MUCH!
My county/state doesn't allow land locked parcels to be created. That should be standard everywhere.
Good video.Very good advice. I was a town engineer shared between 12 small rural towns. I saw all of the troubles that you talked about, plus botched surveys, neighbors trying to steal land or claim a right of way through the new owners' land. In one case a realtor sold a guy 13 acres which turned out to be only 3. She knew it all along but was used to her lawyer fixing things for her. Fortunately, the buyer was a retired state police captain. His BIL was the persecuting attorney for the next county. She lost her license and had to pay big time. My BIL sold the mineral rights under the family house in Jennings, LA. Fortunately, the company was able to set up off of the property and drilled offset for many of the neighborhood properties. Good Luck, Rick
*Prosecuting 😉
@@missychan63:
Nope @richardross7219 got it right!
Don't forget zoning, what are you allowed to do with the property, type of improvements allowed or not and if the property is fee simple or a leasehold.
Good information, I believe here in Texas that septic systems in some areas don't necessarily have to be underground.
Thanks for the invaluable info. Last week I dodged a bullet, looking at a home in WA timber country, I called the county planning to find out who borders the lot. Oh my two different timber companies so I called one and he said they would be 'clearing' the land shortly and it could take 3-6 months. Phew!! there went my country peace and quiet. LOL I am still searching.
Wow. Thank you for sharing. These stories help so many people.
I came to Washington two years ago to buy land.
All I've run into was scams! Beautiful state, but it's so politically corrupt, I can't wait to find my forever property NOT in Washington!
After that 3-6 months it takes them to harvest the timber you will have decades of peace and quiet and more abundant wildlife as the forest is regenerating and growing. If you are looking at land with mature timber on the properties surrounding it and you want guaranteed peace and quiet you either need to be buying a big enough chunk of land that you can get lost in the middle of it or you need to know your neighbors are logging their land off soon, otherwise you never know when the neighbors might decide to harvest the timber (that includes state and county land)
Washington seems impossible to find in tact timberland. The government's in bed with the timber barrons. Shit's criminal. You can google a map showing how the feds own pretty much the entire cascade region
Thanks Wayne. When i bought a few years ago limit was 4 bags of waste per week, then 3 and now 2. It´s fine for me since
there´s not limit on recyclable. For more bags you pay extra. Just to say that present regulations can change.
We all have a big forest cool isn´t ? Ya but summer dominant wind is cut by it. So we bake in summer and freeze in winter....
Trees is so cool until heavy snow broke some of them with tons of branches. No urgency, but a lot of time and work to clear the mess.
You see land or a house that you like ? Close your eyes, deep breath and imagine the same photo in all the worst scenarios. You still like it ? Go.
@14:00. Some land simply won't perc. But the septic guys in the area should know that already and they'll install your septic anyway. They'll still do all the tests, but they'll still do the install.
And how do you get the permit then?
@nomdeguerre8464 it depends on the area, but I know here in the Ozarks, they do the tests and install it anyway.
Thank you for all this valuable information Mr. Tuner
I have never considered land that didn't say "No Restrictions"
I moved into a Chattanooga apartment sight unseen. Thankfully I was just a renter, but it was smack dab in between 2 chicken processing plants. I could hardly bare being outside!!
I appreciate all your info, even to someone whos poor and will never own property, still good to know
One more thing-know who maintains the road that provides access to the property. Is it the state, county, or municipality, OR is it a PRIVATE road?
If it is a private road, the owner is responsible for maintenance, not the state, county, or municipality.
In some cases, there may be multiple properties serviced by the private road.
Great shared video, many ppl are unaware of the simple realities when buying land. Everyone needs to do their due diligence and ensure they actually have a buildable lot that is affordable to be buildable.
I just purchased 3 tracts in the Ozarks, and im excited to start my homestead journey. I needed to hear this video.
Awesome.
You are amazing. It's very informative and everyone plans to buy land must watch
Forced to get insurance is so back asswards. I'm forcing you to take care of yourself! (but really just want your money)
Your videos are so helpful and will surely keep us from making some big mistakes when we find the land we want...
I sold a property several years ago. The buyer specifically did not want the Mineral and Timber rights. He purchased it for Hunting those big Ohio Bucks... The front 5 acers is a steep hill side covered in old growth Black Walnut. Those trees are 3' feet in diameter. The land is smack in the middle of where they are drilling for NG or fracking...... I am tired of paying the $25/year the county charges for those rights... guess what is about to happen?
I remember when those fracking companies paid big bucks, in the late 90s, if you owned the property. I wasn't aware of a tax/fee attached per county or state. (If that's what you're referencing towards.) We're looking because our house is too big and it isn't necessary to have it at our age. Thank you for the info.
Governments (large to tiny) tax everything. Timber and Mineral rights are usually very inexpensive. I did see a homeowner closer into town than I am get a cease and desist order when he started cutting down trees. They were not in town, but were surrounded by HOAs and those went to the county and got the order filed. Apparently it was OK to bulldoze 200 acers of trees for their subdivisions, but how dare that land owner do something to their precious view. @@goingagainstthegrain
😅😅😅😅 What?
Thank you so very much for sharing your invaluable knowledge . It's much appreciated.
If there is standing water or evidence of periodic standing water (water-stained leaves), hydrophilic plants, or low-lying areas BE SURE that the Army Corp of Engineers does not hold jurisdiction over your land as a "wetland". You'd be surprised how loosely they interpret it.
Again great advice thank you so much!
My dad gave me what I consider pretty good advice...never buy a house that sits on the low side of a road. My home sits on a hill about 15 feet elevated above the road. There would have to be one hell of an epic flood to get me.
Most impressive thing I've seen on UA-cam in quite some time, thank you Wayne.
Thank you so much for this valuable information.
Glad it was helpful!
My property AZ was in a flood zone. The house itself wasn't in the flood zone and was built above the base flood level. The flood insurance premium was still $5k
home of the free ..... to do as your told
Very influential and easy to understand narrative. I highly recommend!!