The Bronx Is Burning - 3 - Time for a Change

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  • @therealjd4life
    @therealjd4life 8 місяців тому +9

    Billy IMO is the greatest on field manager in the history of the game, his demons always held him back unfortunately....btw wow what a series...i keep watching it over and over again and Im a Phillies fan but the Yankees are now my American league team as i have now followed their entire history and plan to go to a Yankee game this year....all because of this series

    • @WillEdenfield-of2ix
      @WillEdenfield-of2ix 7 місяців тому

      What demons??

    • @christiansmith1389
      @christiansmith1389 2 місяці тому +1

      @@WillEdenfield-of2ixHe was a raging alcoholic, womanizer, and never shied away from confrontation even if conventional wisdom said he should. I’d call those demons.
      That said, he’s a Yankee legend.

  • @MrTom-jo4ph
    @MrTom-jo4ph 4 роки тому +30

    Wow, remember Monday night BASEBALL? Miss that time.

  • @nyterpfan
    @nyterpfan 2 роки тому +18

    John Turturro is a hell of an actor!! I thought he did a great job as Billy Martin in this mini-series!! (He perfectly captured Martin's insecurity and self-destructiveness.)

  • @hmhm856
    @hmhm856 Рік тому +9

    That Yankees President sure had to put up with a lot in 1977

  • @dougbrowne9890
    @dougbrowne9890 11 місяців тому +4

    Nothing will ever make me stop loving Billy Martin! He bleed Yankee blood. He was the Yankees! RiP Billy.

  • @bradmonium1
    @bradmonium1 2 роки тому +4

    Whoa Nellie... Keith Jackson doing baseball... with Cosell... what a privilege to listen to this... so unlike anything we ever hear now

  • @hmhm856
    @hmhm856 Рік тому +5

    20:41 WOW, the RSOX 3-game-swept the Yankees, and in that series they hit 16 home runs, wow

  • @patriley1026
    @patriley1026 4 роки тому +11

    Steinbrenner gave a great speech to the team. This was the greatest "soap opera" ever.

  • @darrellmfume4505
    @darrellmfume4505 3 роки тому +17

    It is amazing, that they won not 1, but 2 WORLD SERIES. and did it back to back. with so much going on in that Clubhouse.

    • @ronniebishop2496
      @ronniebishop2496 3 роки тому +3

      Yes because Thurman was more of a child than Jackson. Yet they did shun Jackson for saying that silly arrogant stuff lol.

    • @ericthomas917
      @ericthomas917 3 роки тому +2

      Munson was a great player but he was also an idiot. He didn't understand that baseball is a business and selling tickets and getting media attention are just as important as winning. Reggie was a big star because he had a personality and Munson didn't.

    • @user-hv6sb3kg9g
      @user-hv6sb3kg9g 11 місяців тому +2

      Reggie came from a wild team himself in Oak, clubhouse brawls etc but between the lines they got it done

  • @jlh4jc
    @jlh4jc 4 роки тому +8

    The Bronx is Burning is the best miniseries of all time. It takes us under the iceberg that is the strife between Reggie and Billy. Reggie has the demands of the contract and his stardom. Billy is constantly insecure about Steinbrenner constantly holding his job hostage. It's also a generational conflict as well. The show also portrays accurately how indispensable Thurman Munson was to the team. He held the team together even when Billy was an absolute booze soaked train wreck. The Yankees looked to be a dynasty when Thurman Munson was tragically killed in a plane crash 2 years later. With Munson gone, they couldn't get over the top in post season in 80 and 81. When Jackson left after 81, the Yankees never even came close to a World Series again until 1996.

    • @donshults7772
      @donshults7772 3 місяці тому

      Munson was pretty much done as an All Star caliber player. Bad knees and an troublesome shoulder reduced his defensive value as a catcher. He could still hit singles, but never offered much power. Thurman had decent speed on the bases early in his career, but by 1979, he was a step slower. The Yankees won 103 games in 1980. Rick Cerone had an excellent season behind the plate and at the bat, as well. What hindered the Yankees much more than losing Munson was losing Rivers and not really finding a replacement for him.
      The 1979 Yankees were short on starting pitching as Catfish was really bad. They acquired Tommy John and he was terrific, but they only had Guidry and John and not much else after them. Goose broke his thumb breaking up a fight and missed quite a bit of time. Ron Davis filled in decently, but wasn't the same. The Yankees probably should've won in 1981, but some odd tactical choices in that series by Lemon cost them.
      Still, 5 AL East titles from 1976-1981 and 3 AL Pennants is really good.

  • @joshct9426
    @joshct9426 11 місяців тому +2

    Keith Jackson the One And Only GOAT. God I miss watching his games so much. His final game just happened to be the best CFB game ever played.

  • @UNUSUALUSERNAME220
    @UNUSUALUSERNAME220 3 роки тому +4

    0:07:57 Great attention to detail, adding the Bell Telephone symbol. You can tell its CGI, but at least they remembered to add it to the skyline.

  • @MrBagui-ll6jx
    @MrBagui-ll6jx 5 років тому +11

    Best ever! 👍 again!

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 4 роки тому +6

    I’ll name one Thurman said George never bought him a Rolls Royce lol 😝

  • @johnnyd63
    @johnnyd63 Рік тому +4

    As a Met fan during those days, at least their owner wanted to win. The Mets traded Tom Seaver in June 1977, while The Yankees owned NYC.

  • @xxxxbigrich5752
    @xxxxbigrich5752 4 роки тому +18

    I miss those ABC Monday night baseball games! Now it's espn this espn that. And all of today's announcers couldn't hold Cosell jackson or Bob Uk. Jockstrap

  • @stupaul3233
    @stupaul3233 2 роки тому +20

    When Reggie and Thurman had the sit down dinner, Munson forgot that Jackson had three World Series rings with Oakland and Munson never earned a ring until 1977!

    • @robvegart
      @robvegart Рік тому +6

      That is not the point.... It's about a willingness to work with out getting ahead of yourself in believing that you are indeed the only straw in the store... and everyone must use that straw and only that straw. It wasn't just about the straw in the lone drink. Thurman proved his point... He is not insecure with his life as there are more things to life than winning a championship in life rather than going home to an empty house. Reggie as sure as he was of himself, was insecure about his rep proving. Munson was not, win or lose.

    • @stupaul3233
      @stupaul3233 Рік тому +3

      @@robvegart , I NEVER said Thurman was insecure! Sir, he was one of my FAVORITE Yankees for your information and we knew how gritty and talented he was! I am glad HE got two WS rings too! Hey, I am glad they were both successful together and please let’s leave it at that and I was also going along with the movie (who knows what actually happened in real life), but let’s clear this misunderstanding! I was also stating a matter of fact about Reggie’s success in Oakland and Thurman was successful every year whether he won a WA ring or not! Thank you!!!!

    • @gregfranke3574
      @gregfranke3574 9 місяців тому +2

      winning world series are about more than one player. Those Oakland teams were better than the '76 Yankees. And the '72 A's won the series without Jackson even playing...

    • @CaballoNegroII
      @CaballoNegroII 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes but at that exact time he is wearing pinstripes and club house respect must be earn at all times.

    • @Bruins-vq5ey
      @Bruins-vq5ey 2 місяці тому +2

      Jackson forgot that Munson was a human being.
      And 10 times the person Jackson was

  • @michaelleroy9281
    @michaelleroy9281 2 роки тому +3

    Almost in every scene Billy was always drinking something

  • @sludge4125
    @sludge4125 3 роки тому +4

    With the Tigers, martin regularly showed up LATE for games.
    The final “straw?” He fell asleep in his office in between games of a doubleheader, and didn’t show for game two.

  • @eddiemunster7474
    @eddiemunster7474 2 роки тому +5

    if martin would have quit the booze he probably would have been fine

  • @chocorocky5705
    @chocorocky5705 Рік тому +3

    Fun Fact: at 39:52 when he asks for "Steve" to call them a cab, he's meant to be talking to my grandfather. He used to work at the bar this scene was filmed at, and he was originally meant to insult one of the men as a joke in the scene. Unfortunately, he had just gotten his hair cut before the scene was shot, and they didn't like that his hairstyle was out of date for the show. (I guess they didn't want to waste extensions on him since he was just a random guy in the scene and not an important character). Also, John Turturro isn't drinking fake booze in this scene. He specifically asked to have real liquor in his cup, and apparently drank an insane amount due to retakes.

  • @polopopolo2197
    @polopopolo2197 3 роки тому +9

    Did anyone else have trouble with the volume? Can barely hear it

  • @morthedgebuckle227
    @morthedgebuckle227 9 місяців тому +1

    I always saw Thurman as a great parental kind of guy. Had a son crush on him when i was a little kid.

  • @noahahlstrom3834
    @noahahlstrom3834 3 місяці тому

    I always wondered about the Steinbrenner scenes when he's on the phone, and then interrupted by someone. In this ep. he talks to someone named "Milt," who is idk. The scenes when he's talking on the phone are some of my favorites: Steinbrenner on the phone before the Miller Lite commercial? Forget it!

  • @mightychild1057
    @mightychild1057 3 місяці тому +1

    🗣️"BANG BANG BOOGY"

  • @sludge4125
    @sludge4125 3 роки тому +3

    It was Hank Bauer who threw the punch at the Copacabana, according to Billy.

    • @DaveDaShrubber
      @DaveDaShrubber Рік тому +2

      It wasn't Bauer. The guy who was heckling Sammy Davis Jr. was beaten up by one of the club's bouncers.

  • @drrayl
    @drrayl 3 роки тому +4

    The son of Sam never had the makings of a varsity athlete

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 4 роки тому +11

    The 70s were as crazy as the 60s and I lived in both.

    • @daveyboy_
      @daveyboy_ 2 роки тому +1

      But the 90's made the 60's look like the 50's.

    • @ronniebishop2496
      @ronniebishop2496 2 роки тому

      @@daveyboy_ Well lets see about that, we had over 700 riots from 1964 to 1977, three major world leaders assassinated from 1963 to 1968. We landed on the moon in 1969. And while all of this was going on we had 15 years of Vietnam where we killed 2.5 million people. Now the 90s was a pussy cat compared to that, because I can’t remember what the 90s are famous for except the death of my mom and wife.

    • @daveyboy_
      @daveyboy_ 2 роки тому

      @@ronniebishop2496 90's was a time of new and better change . We just got away from 12 yrs of Republicans, had new forms of music and we won a war . Pretty awesome if you ask me .

    • @ronniebishop2496
      @ronniebishop2496 2 роки тому

      @@daveyboy_ Yes even though Clinton was impeached, but it’s never really matters what Party is in office until lately because John Kennedy was a Democrat, which he wouldn’t be technically today. Both party’s are horrible especially the democrats. Look at the candidates. Horrible

    • @ronniebishop2496
      @ronniebishop2496 2 роки тому +2

      @@daveyboy_ But if you remember all the hell was under the democrats. Up until 1980.

  • @stever7157
    @stever7157 Рік тому +3

    The incident around the 12:00 mark where Billy accuses Reggie of “second guessing his decisions in front of teammates” is discussed in detail in Reggie’s first book. That could have led to Martin boiling over after the misplay on the ball hit by Rice.

    • @thefrase7884
      @thefrase7884 10 місяців тому +2

      Billy asked Reggie what he thought. Reggie told him what he thought. If you want to hear certain answers to questions then you shouldn’t ask them

  • @buddmannable
    @buddmannable 4 роки тому +5

    Cubs are my team but this was one of the best mini-series I have ever seen! BTW - 19:30 - In real life Reggie kicks Billy's ass; too big, too strong and much younger......BUTTTTT, Billy gets a few shots in and Reggie DOES NOT come out unscathed. Martin was TOUGH as nails!

    • @sludge4125
      @sludge4125 3 роки тому +2

      Billy was a sucker punch artist.

    • @sludge4125
      @sludge4125 3 роки тому

      And ed whitson beat the heck out of billy, possibly breaking billy’s arm.

    • @stevensica89
      @stevensica89 2 роки тому +2

      They both would have done a lot of damage to each other. Jax is younger and stronger, Martin is an experienced, accomplish brawler.

    • @callumthesnake6573
      @callumthesnake6573 2 роки тому +3

      @@stevensica89 Correct. Whitson was 4 inches taller, 26 years younger, and 30 pounds heavier. And billy still broke a rib and split eddie's lip. Not unscathed.

  • @orbonds3603
    @orbonds3603 4 роки тому +6

    Billy should be in hall of fame

  • @buddmannable
    @buddmannable 2 роки тому +5

    16:00 - Reggie has stated that backup Catcher Fran Healy was his best friend on the team.

  • @Oneofcorporalemmastwomoms
    @Oneofcorporalemmastwomoms 3 роки тому +7

    Phil Leotardo watched the '77 world series from the fucking can.

    • @bradlott9876
      @bradlott9876 2 роки тому +1

      He compromised

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b 2 роки тому +2

      with grilled cheese sandwiches off the radiator

    • @TheReubenKincaid
      @TheReubenKincaid 2 роки тому

      If it was part of his 20 years he refers to I’m not sure. You see Phil got out in 2004, so he began his 20 years of compromise and silence in 1984. But maybe he was doing some short time in the 77. He never mentioned it..

  • @kenbear64
    @kenbear64 Рік тому +1

    Slight observations I noticed (having followed the Tigers since the late 70's-I notice these things):
    1. The Yankees didn't win it for Billy that night; they lost 2-1 against Mark Fidrych (RIP).
    2. In 1977, Tiger Stadium was green all the way around; it only became blue after the renovation following that season.
    3. The Yankees would have been in the 1st base dugout that night.

  • @robvegart
    @robvegart Рік тому

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Steinbrenner paid for the longest cab ride to a ball park a few blocks away.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh wow!!!! Talk about Dracula vs Frankenstein, or King Kong vs Godzilla, or Tyrannosaur vs Triceratops!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 Рік тому +2

    I watched the As in Kansas City and they lost constantly, they move to Oakland and win 3 championships in a row.

  • @williamsmith920
    @williamsmith920 5 років тому +5

    Its supposed to be set in 1977 but at 9:00 the detective is driving a 1985 -86 Chevy Impala. Oh well, doesn't detract at all, still a great video series.

    • @kevaninthe4135
      @kevaninthe4135 5 років тому +2

      Noticed that to. Should have been a 77-79 Impala/Caprice with the bigger C-pillar. Not a big deal.

  • @dariowiter3078
    @dariowiter3078 16 днів тому

    This series shows two huge egos in Billy Martin and George Steinbrenner clashing with each other, as both men wanted the Yankees to be 162-0 every baseball season. When two men clash like that, ugly scenes are bound to happen.

  • @TheReubenKincaid
    @TheReubenKincaid 2 роки тому +2

    Mick the Quick

  • @stephaniegormley9982
    @stephaniegormley9982 4 місяці тому

    31:29 Movie goof, Martin's entering from the wrong side. The 3rd base dugout was for the Tigers. The visitors sat on the 1st base side.

  • @jsorensen
    @jsorensen 3 роки тому +1

    Someone should do a movie of The Bronx Zoo.

    • @freakyfornash
      @freakyfornash 3 роки тому +1

      A miniseries on the 1978 team would make one hell of, and just as great of a drama show too.

  • @Sweetish_Jeff_
    @Sweetish_Jeff_ 2 роки тому +2

    Even if Reggie didn’t hustle after the ball, you DO NOT embarrass a player like that on the field. Billy knew what he was doing and it was deliberate. He wanted to humiliate Reggie. Can you see Joe Torre doing that? Billy could have taken him out and addressed it with him in the clubhouse, not in the dugout.

    • @callumthesnake6573
      @callumthesnake6573 2 роки тому +1

      I cant see Joe Torre doing anything requiring personality.

    • @Sweetish_Jeff_
      @Sweetish_Jeff_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@callumthesnake6573 I guess that’s why he has 4 championships to Billy’s 1.

    • @callumthesnake6573
      @callumthesnake6573 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sweetish_Jeff_ Nottt, quite. Yer fergetting that Billy had 5 as a player too. Joseph, for all his excellent hitting, was never on a Series team. Would have loved to see Joseph playing for the Cards during their mid-60s era, but he was stuck with the braves:( The man could have hit with a bent tree limb he was that good.

  • @morthedgebuckle227
    @morthedgebuckle227 11 місяців тому +1

    Love Thurman Munson.

  • @edde1968
    @edde1968 4 роки тому +5

    As you see the replay Reggie didn't loaf after the ball he did charge in. Billy just didn't like the way he played sometimes. Billy was wrong for taking out Reggie for Paul Blair and showing him up.

    • @sportsrevisited9699
      @sportsrevisited9699  4 роки тому +4

      he had zero tolerance with Jackson, even if he thought Jackson loafed, it wasn't so egregious that he couldn't have given him the benefit of the doubt, or even just say some thing in the dugout after the inning is over. Martin went too far. I think Martin was the best manager ever but he hurt his team by giving jackson a hard time for no good reason. they won, but Martin was losing his mind during these years.

    • @dariowiter3078
      @dariowiter3078 4 роки тому +3

      @@sportsrevisited9699 That's because Billy, like Steinbrenner, had a massively huge ego where if the team wasn't 162-0 every season, then the team wasn't worth managing. Plus, being the manager gave Billy a big power trip which he was too addicted to; he loved the glory that it gave him as Yankees' manager.

  • @sludge4125
    @sludge4125 3 роки тому

    Ed Whitson beat the heck out of martin, breaking the boy’s arm.

    • @callumthesnake6573
      @callumthesnake6573 2 роки тому +1

      Ed whitson was 30 at the time. Billy was 56. Billy cracked eddie's rib and split his lip, and whitson broke martin's ulna. Whitson was also 4 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier in addition to being the 26 years younger. The 'old man' gave as good as he got.

  • @PorkTips
    @PorkTips 4 роки тому

    Wtf is up with the camera at 38:00 during Martin + Munsons conversation?

    • @chrisharrington4398
      @chrisharrington4398 6 місяців тому

      I'm many years late but I think it's to replicate being drunk.

  • @krakaman8861
    @krakaman8861 3 роки тому +6

    Harvey Greene, the Yankees' Director of Media Relations from 1986 to 1989, talked about the experience of working under Steinbrenner:
    "When the team was on the road, you'd come back to your hotel late at night, and if your phone light was on, you knew that either there had been a death in the family or George was looking for you. After a while, you started to hope that there had been a death in the family.

  • @awesome123306
    @awesome123306 Рік тому +1

    Why did billy get along great with willie then? Was billy truel racist or did he truley think reggies ego was to much for the team.

    • @APOCALYPSE_X-MEN
      @APOCALYPSE_X-MEN 7 місяців тому +1

      That's all you took from that? Also, a bigoted person doesn't always hate every individual member of another race.

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 Рік тому +2

    Thurman you said you wanted a Rolls Royce like Reggie, remember. Ego too huh. You never fight with your team in public, especially on tv.

  • @NkrumahTure
    @NkrumahTure 5 років тому

    Reggie never had those problems when he was in Oakland. Finley and Williams respected him. Martin just did not.

    • @sportsrevisited9699
      @sportsrevisited9699  5 років тому +10

      Martin had a hard-on for Reggie because he didn't like his showy style. but Reggie never hurt his team and always played hard. he was flashy and had an ego but he was never a bad guy. i think Martin is the best manager ever, i think he could turn any team into a winner, but he was wrong about breaking Reggie's balls.

    • @NkrumahTure
      @NkrumahTure 5 років тому +7

      @@sportsrevisited9699 I agree. Reggie Jackson was one of those rare players who could make a ball team better with his appearance alone. His flair for dramatic clutch home runs didn't hurt either. But New York is a pressure cooker for professional sports, everyone knows that. It's always the "what have you done for me lately" fan attitude. That can affect the most thick skinned professional athlete.

    • @f2afinito983
      @f2afinito983 5 років тому +1

      NkrumahTure i have always said that in order to succeed you have to come to Ny young to get acclimated to the pressure. all the greats that have succeeded came while they were still young. Jeter, Mo, Clyde Fraizer, Willis Reed, Doc Gooden, Straw, etc. the only exceptions are Messier, Reggie, n Maris. Those who came in their prime has struggled or at the very least didnt win from Piazza, Mo Vaughn, Carmelo, etc.

    • @NkrumahTure
      @NkrumahTure 5 років тому

      f2a Finito I see. Great points.

    • @loyaldude10
      @loyaldude10 5 років тому +4

      Martin should not have gone out of his way to bust Jacksons' balls, but Reggie was unpopular with a lot of his teammates, on Yanks and when he was in Oakland. he struck out a lot also. so he did hurt team at times.

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 4 роки тому

    I didn’t know Rivers was such a bum.

    • @sludge4125
      @sludge4125 3 роки тому +3

      He was...different. 🤪🤪🤪

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b 2 роки тому

      he was my fave in this series

    • @stevensica5918
      @stevensica5918 3 місяці тому

      @@xman777b With a horrible wife.

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b 3 місяці тому

      @stevensica5918 if you meant best wife, then I agree. Hot

  • @sludge4125
    @sludge4125 3 роки тому +1

    Ed Whitson beat the heck out of the punk (billy), possibly breaking billy’s arm.

    • @stevensica5918
      @stevensica5918 3 місяці тому +1

      Could be BM was already half in the bag at the time of the fight?

  • @tevintev11193
    @tevintev11193 Рік тому

    12:58

  • @rawdawg15
    @rawdawg15 3 роки тому +3

    8:22 Newt York was ahead of its time, almost has its first LGBT mayor.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 3 роки тому +2

      And having an 'LBGT mayor' is moving 'ahead?'
      No. It isn't.

    • @stevensica89
      @stevensica89 2 роки тому +1

      Ed Koch? No thank you. The worst NYC mayor in my lifetime, and that is saying something considering he's competing with Lindsay, Dinkins and DeBlasio.

    • @rawdawg15
      @rawdawg15 2 роки тому

      @@stevensica89 that obnoxious congresswoman

    • @APOCALYPSE_X-MEN
      @APOCALYPSE_X-MEN 7 місяців тому

      ​@@stevensica89Hmmm....all progressives...

  • @thefrase7884
    @thefrase7884 10 місяців тому

    12:14…..Martin asked him his opinion. He gave it. You don’t like it…..oh well and don’t ask

  • @movieman9100
    @movieman9100 2 роки тому

    I would have solved it this way. Reggie Jackson would have been gone.

    • @stevensica5918
      @stevensica5918 3 місяці тому +1

      e should never have been signed. RJ is a looking out for #1 guy. No one and nothing come before RJ.
      He should have been a boxer or a golfer or a tennis player, no teammates.

  • @wyattmann8157
    @wyattmann8157 2 місяці тому

    Jesus hates the Yankees.