I would go to Bible school every Sunday if these were the kind of ideas and discussions you could find there. Hope you and Peter can continue this series. Thank you.
I've watched every single Peter Thiel interview/speech on UA-cam and it's very good to see that you've covered a lot of new topics with him. Thank you very much and kind regards from The Netherlands!
do you know, and can you articulate what attracts you to his public speaking? are there other people who you similarly have sought out most or lots of their stuff? i'd guess it might be his calm demeanour and the independent nature of his thinking ("first principles thinking" as some call it) coupled with a willingness to express potentially unpopular views but i'd be interested to hear from someone like yourself
Had to make another comment, great interview. His statement about communism being hyper Christian is very apt, I once again have to quote Chesterton. "The modern world is not evil; in some ways the modern world is far too good. It is full of wild and wasted virtues.....it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad...... Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful."
They should have touched on the portrayals of the heroes in the Greek classics. It illustrates their and Girards points nicely. Anyone that reads Homer's account of Achilles, Ajax, Agamaennon, etc can't helped but be appaled by their attitude towards the less fortunate, it goes rough down the gullet to any Western man. It shows how intrinsic this aspect of Christianity has become in our lives, so much so that we don't even realize it. I love the quote by Chesterton on this as well "Take another case: the complicated question of charity, which some highly uncharitable idealists seem to think quite easy. Charity is a paradox, like modesty and courage. Stated baldly, charity certainly means one of two things-pardoning unpardonable acts, or loving unlovable people. But if we ask ourselves (as we did in the case of pride) what a sensible pagan would feel about such a subject, we shall probably be beginning at the bottom of it. A sensible pagan would say that there were some people one could forgive, and some one couldn’t: a slave who stole wine could be laughed at; a slave who betrayed his benefactor could be killed, and cursed even after he was killed. In so far as the act was pardonable, the man was pardonable. That again is rational, and even refreshing; but it is a dilution. It leaves no place for a pure horror of injustice, such as that which is a great beauty in the innocent. And it leaves no place for a mere tenderness for men as men, such as is the whole fascination of the charitable. Christianity came in here as before. It came in startlingly with a sword, and clove one thing from another. It divided the crime from the criminal. The criminal we must forgive unto seventy times seven. The crime we must not forgive at all. It was not enough that slaves who stole wine inspired partly anger and partly kindness. We must be much more angry with theft than before, and yet much kinder to thieves than before. There was room for wrath and love to run wild. And the more I considered Christianity, the more I found that while it had established a rule and order, the chief aim of that order was to give room for good things to run wild."
Awesome conversation Jerry, and congratulations on the launch of the new series. Any chance that you could link to the 2017 speech Peter delivered on the bible at the King's College?
Why thank you...oh, wait, you mean Peter! Just kidding. I agree. He's maybe the smartest guy I've ever interviewed, certainly in the top five, and I've interviewed thousands of very intelligent people.
@@jerrybowyer7063 I try to listen to everything he says, interviews, etc. Usually for his business and philosophy perspective, but this was an extremely interesting insight into his religious views. Hes such a deep and unconventional thinker. Can't wait for next part of the interview. Great job!
Here in Oct. 2023 there has been a lot of discussion about AI, esp initiated at the national level by Elon Musk. That would be an interesting tangent from this conversation to explore in more detail. Great discussion!
I would go to Bible school every Sunday if these were the kind of ideas and discussions you could find there. Hope you and Peter can continue this series. Thank you.
I've watched every single Peter Thiel interview/speech on UA-cam and it's very good to see that you've covered a lot of new topics with him. Thank you very much and kind regards from The Netherlands!
Have you read his essay "The Straussian Moment"? He touches on a couple similar points there. Kind regards from Germany
do you know, and can you articulate what attracts you to his public speaking? are there other people who you similarly have sought out most or lots of their stuff?
i'd guess it might be his calm demeanour and the independent nature of his thinking ("first principles thinking" as some call it) coupled with a willingness to express potentially unpopular views but i'd be interested to hear from someone like yourself
Bro..if you can share the links of peter thiel videos
This is the best interview with Peter. Thank you Jerry.
Yes, it's my favorite of his too.
Had to make another comment, great interview. His statement about communism being hyper Christian is very apt, I once again have to quote Chesterton. "The modern world is not evil; in some ways the modern world is far too good. It is full of wild and wasted virtues.....it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad...... Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful."
Thiel needs to do a full course on girard and his sides of christian perspectives
100%
You will always learn something unique but at the same time important from Peter!
Okay Peter, really needing you to come back out here and share your thoughts with us again.
Still very much excited for Part 2.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Covered a whole lot of different topics!
They should have touched on the portrayals of the heroes in the Greek classics. It illustrates their and Girards points nicely. Anyone that reads Homer's account of Achilles, Ajax, Agamaennon, etc can't helped but be appaled by their attitude towards the less fortunate, it goes rough down the gullet to any Western man. It shows how intrinsic this aspect of Christianity has become in our lives, so much so that we don't even realize it. I love the quote by Chesterton on this as well "Take another case: the complicated question of charity, which some highly uncharitable idealists seem to think quite easy. Charity is a paradox, like modesty and courage. Stated baldly, charity certainly means one of two things-pardoning unpardonable acts, or loving unlovable people. But if we ask ourselves (as we did in the case of pride) what a sensible pagan would feel about such a subject, we shall probably be beginning at the bottom of it. A sensible pagan would say that there were some people one could forgive, and some one couldn’t: a slave who stole wine could be laughed at; a slave who betrayed his benefactor could be killed, and cursed even after he was killed. In so far as the act was pardonable, the man was pardonable. That again is rational, and even refreshing; but it is a dilution. It leaves no place for a pure horror of injustice, such as that which is a great beauty in the innocent. And it leaves no place for a mere tenderness for men as men, such as is the whole fascination of the charitable. Christianity came in here as before. It came in startlingly with a sword, and clove one thing from another. It divided the crime from the criminal. The criminal we must forgive unto seventy times seven. The crime we must not forgive at all. It was not enough that slaves who stole wine inspired partly anger and partly kindness. We must be much more angry with theft than before, and yet much kinder to thieves than before. There was room for wrath and love to run wild. And the more I considered Christianity, the more I found that while it had established a rule and order, the chief aim of that order was to give room for good things to run wild."
Great talk. Looking forward to the follow-up talk.
Great interview. Really enjoying it.
Da q. A
When is the next one scheduled please?
Would also like to know, cheers
The next Thiel interview will be posted in a few weeks.
@@MeetingofMindswithJerryBowyer Thank you brother
@@MeetingofMindswithJerryBowyer still waiting man
@@MeetingofMindswithJerryBowyer Any update? Still waiting
Awesome conversation Jerry, and congratulations on the launch of the new series.
Any chance that you could link to the 2017 speech Peter delivered on the bible at the King's College?
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Smartest person Ive ever heard before
Why thank you...oh, wait, you mean Peter! Just kidding. I agree. He's maybe the smartest guy I've ever interviewed, certainly in the top five, and I've interviewed thousands of very intelligent people.
@@jerrybowyer7063 I try to listen to everything he says, interviews, etc. Usually for his business and philosophy perspective, but this was an extremely interesting insight into his religious views. Hes such a deep and unconventional thinker. Can't wait for next part of the interview. Great job!
@@deemahdee Me too. I get as much Thiel content as I can find. Next interview should be ready in mid-June.
@E That I know personally? N.T. Wright; George Gilder; David Goldman, and a few Nobelists such as Mundell, Phelps, Smith.
Waiting on round 2 Jerry boy..
that was deep. thanks
When's the "to be continued" happening?
Really rude how the interviewer left the computer speakers on making noises whilst Peter was speaking. That would have driven me insane.
Here in Oct. 2023 there has been a lot of discussion about AI, esp initiated at the national level by Elon Musk. That would be an interesting tangent from this conversation to explore in more detail.
Great discussion!
I wanna hear his take on UFOs.
What are the main differences between Christianity and Ultra Christianity?
Wow, Thiel knows his philosophy/religion shit.
If you can please ask Peter Thiel if he believes in God Almighty. Please...
He does, take care 🙂
Nice but it's better spend time actually vreadigg Genesis
The entire bible - Old & New Testaments - is copied from ancient societies’ myths, mostly ancient Egypt, real name Kemet.