Gen 2 Coyote is a semi closed deck, port injection with 11mm head bolts, while the Gen 3 is a open deck block, port and direct injection with 12mm head bolts. Being semi closed, the Gen 2 block is stronger for boost, the Gen 3 can run a higher compression since it has better cooling from the open deck design and larger damper for vibrations.
I’ve had my 2018 for almost 3 years w/bolt ons and e85. No tick or oil consumption. It’s unfortunate for whoever had the issues but it’s really an amazing motor.
That's cool to hear, I have a gen 2 sitting at 130k as of now still runs well. Not much oil burn quart or 2 but I change my oil at 6-7k full synthetic. I worry since some things happen and I have to daily ot now. Alot of hwy miles.
Just got my 2019 in August and I already had to take it to the dealer. Been in the dealer since Dec 21 I’m just getting it back Monday. My advice is if u got the 2018-19 GT make sure you get VCT Solenoid checked out they come faulty in a lot of those cars. My issue was my car would turn off at a stop or red light it would also though am positioning code and shake from what I thought was the exhaust. But after the dealership ran a computer on my car overnight and changed almost all the parts in the engine that was the issue with mine.
I have a gen2 2017 GT PP manual Grabber Blue. After hearing about the infamous tick and oil consumption of the Gen 3, I'll stick with my N/A Stang.So far no issues other than the the issue with the IRMC valves on the manifold breaking. The last addition of the Manifold supposedly fix the issue. FMC should have done a recall on this obvious problem.
Does direct injection require a different ECU? For the cyllinder head flow numbers I have 289cfm@.500" as my coyote flow numbers and cannot find gen 3 specific flow numbers, does anyone have them? So he said the differences: gen3=460hp/420tq and gen2=435hp/400tq 1. Direct injection on the gen3 vs port injection on the gen2 2. 12:1 cr vs 11:1 cr on the gen2 3. higher flowing heads and intake manifold
That with all coyotes generations and most of the time the ticking sound is a injector Failure most of us coyote boy dont know that and get sad when we here a ticking we think automatically motor but u be suprise when the coyote has a injector Failure it gives off a ticking valve sound
I would like to swap ford engine in my 69 mustang fastback.. I am looking into reliable mustang engines with stick shift.. any recomendation/suggestions?
I wanna swap my eco boost to a 5.0 it’s a 2017 should I get gen 2 for compatibility or gen 3 for power I know I have to change the mounts wiring harnesses and controller module I’m ordering full exhaust system from gt350r with valance already have the big brake hit from brembo 6 piss in front 4 in back I wanna put I while on coyote would that be safe? Or should I build on the motor while it’s fresh out the crate?
I have a 2017 mustang GT M/T obviously with the Gen 2 motor in to and my engine blew up today and I need a new engine. Was thinking about buying the Gen 3 motor as the new one. Do you know exactly what I need for the swap or should it just be a plug and play becuz both Gen 2 and Gen 3 motors are near identical? Like do I need to buy a different harness to make it fit, a new PCM, etc.?
@@2023_Max I am still waiting for another UA-cam link perhaps from Jason as well explaining if 4951 is closer to 5000 or 4900. Please point me in the right direction dickhead.
Happy Cupcake ok, let me add a (51), happy! Does that make me graduate Elementary? 🤦🏻♂️😂 you are one funny strawberry shortcake. And as for your insults, well they don’t bother me Ignorant Cupcake. 😂
I heard Ford may offer cylinder deactivation on their V8s next year. I wonder if it would be possible to turbo charge such a Coyote engine. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds but I am no automotive engineer.
That technology is literally a problem on the long run. GM has done it since 2014 on their V8’s and at 120k miles they start having lofter issues like crazy
@@habanero5.054 "ah come on man?!" :p This sux :/ Sorry to hear that. ..guess I'll go buy another sport car with a LT1 and a proper tr6060 transmission!
@@RimshotsandNamaste haha yeah I wish it wasn’t so poorly built because it’s so fun and quick but you can tell Ford cheaped out on it. I’d recommend looking at the Scatpacks, maybe a camaro, and most definitely I’d highly consider a c63 AMG. You can find a pre owned one for a great deal and it’ll blow any of those cars out of the water+build quality is way better
@@chrisdaigle5410 or a tennis/ping pong player! Seriously! Or he's just an ex-obese person: heavy people naturally have big calves to move all that weight :p
I bought a 2018 f150 used almost 2 years ago with the 5.0 l coyote engine. I absolutely love it. It has all the power I need .
Gen 2 Coyote is a semi closed deck, port injection with 11mm head bolts, while the Gen 3 is a open deck block, port and direct injection with 12mm head bolts. Being semi closed, the Gen 2 block is stronger for boost, the Gen 3 can run a higher compression since it has better cooling from the open deck design and larger damper for vibrations.
I’ve had my 2018 for almost 3 years w/bolt ons and e85. No tick or oil consumption. It’s unfortunate for whoever had the issues but it’s really an amazing motor.
Any tips ? I got a 2019 for a year now and been great so far
What oil type do you use ?
@@thevishen1950 honestly just motorcraft and oem filters
@@JG-oc8ov I change oil every 3-6 months but it’s not a daily driver. I think you’re good to go!
Luv that e85!
Gen 1 5.0 at 157k and still runs like a clock. Doesn't even burn that much oil. Really is a fantastic Engine.
That's cool to hear, I have a gen 2 sitting at 130k as of now still runs well. Not much oil burn quart or 2 but I change my oil at 6-7k full synthetic. I worry since some things happen and I have to daily ot now. Alot of hwy miles.
i got a 182k mile fbo e85 coyote and becides fuel pump going out she runs strong
Just got my 2019 in August and I already had to take it to the dealer. Been in the dealer since Dec 21 I’m just getting it back Monday. My advice is if u got the 2018-19 GT make sure you get VCT Solenoid checked out they come faulty in a lot of those cars. My issue was my car would turn off at a stop or red light it would also though am positioning code and shake from what I thought was the exhaust. But after the dealership ran a computer on my car overnight and changed almost all the parts in the engine that was the issue with mine.
That damper does look vicious.
Gen 2 ftw
I have a gen2 2017 GT PP manual Grabber Blue. After hearing about the infamous tick and oil consumption of the Gen 3, I'll stick with my N/A Stang.So far no issues other than the the issue with the IRMC valves on the manifold breaking. The last addition of the Manifold supposedly fix the issue. FMC should have done a recall on this obvious problem.
Happy with my port injected 14 GT, running strong with 22k miles.
Would the Gen 2 fit in a 1967 mustang fastback?
Gen 2 torque is 400 ft-lbs and 435 HP at crank
Does direct injection require a different ECU? For the cyllinder head flow numbers I have 289cfm@.500" as my coyote flow numbers and cannot find gen 3 specific flow numbers, does anyone have them? So he said the differences:
gen3=460hp/420tq and gen2=435hp/400tq
1. Direct injection on the gen3 vs port injection on the gen2
2. 12:1 cr vs 11:1 cr on the gen2
3. higher flowing heads and intake manifold
Cool!!!!!
What control pack for a gen 3 and manual trans? what trans?
Rather keep my 2017 gen 2....too many issues from the gen 3. Oil consumption, engine tick etc....
Gen 1 is the best
@@henryjoksovic1539 no its not gen 2 is better
@@henryjoksovic1539 gen 1 is weak 800hp u can grenade the motor
That with all coyotes generations and most of the time the ticking sound is a injector Failure most of us coyote boy dont know that and get sad when we here a ticking we think automatically motor but u be suprise when the coyote has a injector Failure it gives off a ticking valve sound
I want to put one in my crown Vic.
Does the gen3 not also not have fully forged internals?
That high compression will not be boost friendly...
Gen3’s are the fastest lol
I would like to swap ford engine in my 69 mustang fastback.. I am looking into reliable mustang engines with stick shift.. any recomendation/suggestions?
F-150 coyote with flex-fuel (after 2018) probably less expensive
The Gen 3 will fit under the hood and it's smaller than a Boss 429.
What I would do for that 3rd gen with the 10r80 swap in my 07 Sport Trac 🤌
I wanna swap my eco boost to a 5.0 it’s a 2017 should I get gen 2 for compatibility or gen 3 for power I know I have to change the mounts wiring harnesses and controller module I’m ordering full exhaust system from gt350r with valance already have the big brake hit from brembo 6 piss in front 4 in back I wanna put I while on coyote would that be safe? Or should I build on the motor while it’s fresh out the crate?
Whipple*^😂
How much are this thing run at
I have a 2017 mustang GT M/T obviously with the Gen 2 motor in to and my engine blew up today and I need a new engine. Was thinking about buying the Gen 3 motor as the new one. Do you know exactly what I need for the swap or should it just be a plug and play becuz both Gen 2 and Gen 3 motors are near identical?
Like do I need to buy a different harness to make it fit, a new PCM, etc.?
@Earl Delsanto you need to learn to shut up and speak when spoken too
I think you’ll use the gen 3 ecu with harness because its port injection
price
Do you have a Coyote engine for sale? Gn2
The 3rd gen (2018) is a true 5.0L.1st and 2nd are still about 4.9L.
Your math is so poor you should go back to primary
Happy Cupcake ua-cam.com/video/NPCi_B9hZSU/v-deo.html
Min 2:20
As for your comment. You check your math Professor Pancake. 👍🏽
4951 cc is closer to 5000 than 4900. You need to go back to primary school my friend.
@@2023_Max I am still waiting for another UA-cam link perhaps from Jason as well explaining if 4951 is closer to 5000 or 4900. Please point me in the right direction dickhead.
Happy Cupcake ok, let me add a (51), happy! Does that make me graduate Elementary? 🤦🏻♂️😂 you are one funny strawberry shortcake. And as for your insults, well they don’t bother me Ignorant Cupcake. 😂
Is The Gen 3 designed to run on E85?
Yeah just need a tune
@@MrAdrian13 not with the f-150
My God is that thing HUGE! Bigger than my car!
Oh wait I dont have a car
That’s what she said
I heard Ford may offer cylinder deactivation on their V8s next year.
I wonder if it would be possible to turbo charge such a Coyote engine. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds but I am no automotive engineer.
It’s a terrible system and hopefully Ford doesn’t do that.
That technology is literally a problem on the long run. GM has done it since 2014 on their V8’s and at 120k miles they start having lofter issues like crazy
Can you send a gen 3 one? I’d really appreciate it.
I own a gen3 n I can tell you that no gen 1 or gen 2 compares I’ve drove a 1 n 2 n have buddies with 1 n 2s
12:1 cr alone gets you about a 4% increase in torque across the board.
Gen 2 not actually a 5.0 but a 4.951L. Gen 3 on the other hand is a 5.038L truly a 5.0.
Yup they are true 5.0 and there manifolds are slightly better and are compared to the gt350 manifolds
Did ford solve the ticking problem in 2020?
No I have a 2020 with about 5700 miles and it ticks extremely loud and I believe I may be burning oil but I have to monitor that
@@habanero5.054 "ah come on man?!"
:p
This sux :/
Sorry to hear that.
..guess I'll go buy another sport car with a LT1 and a proper tr6060 transmission!
@@RimshotsandNamaste haha yeah I wish it wasn’t so poorly built because it’s so fun and quick but you can tell Ford cheaped out on it. I’d recommend looking at the Scatpacks, maybe a camaro, and most definitely I’d highly consider a c63 AMG. You can find a pre owned one for a great deal and it’ll blow any of those cars out of the water+build quality is way better
@@habanero5.054 yeah!
..but.. Lt1 and tr6060, you can't beat that :p (I want absolutely a manual!)
@@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t blame you I love the 6 speed I have but just not when I get locked out of 3rd gear😂
Gen 2 is the strongest block
I want to engine swap m my 2008 base mustang with a v8 can anyone give me some guidance please?
Sell your car and buy a v8 stang.
@@flipajigtv8608 nah that’s not an option
@@joshb.4404 man it’s gonna be a lot cheaper to do it that way😂 but, just get online and look at some crate engines
Get the ford control pack and crate engine..simple really
costs around 18-23k to swap a coyote into a car
Killer engines.
Gen 2 is better
For boost😎
It is a amazing motor I'm still amazed at the cars I take down with mine.
Dude my God why are your calves so big?!
He's either a body builder or a cyclist.
Chris Daigle or Hercules
@@chrisdaigle5410 or a tennis/ping pong player!
Seriously!
Or he's just an ex-obese person: heavy people naturally have big calves to move all that weight :p
Genetics play a huge part on how big your calf muscles get, but I'm guessing he is a runner.
And how much do these motors go for?
What's the HP on the gen 2?
435 to crank, Rwh like 380to 390