Fun playthrough. The Big Box expansion provides great components, glad to see it highlighted here. Is there a reason you didn't use the upgraded parameter trackers in place of the white cubes?
My only issue with this game is the poor quality and graphics of the cards and board. The gameplay is incredible, I just wish they would re-do the cards to match the quality and style of Ares Expedition.
@@DevonTalksTabletop Lucky that the brothers didn't zero in on those milestones, 8 credits for 5 points, that is an insane payoff - plus it's 5 points your opponents don't score, they are big. If AP had just one of those he wins. Also they should have leached points from your greenery tiles.
You draft the Prelude cards but not the starting 10?? I don't always draft the starting 10 because it can take a minute, but drafting Prelude cards isn't a thing, but I'll consider it now.
I've been very interested in getting this game. I want everything! But it's so expensive. The PM is about to close early next month for the latest campaign and I got the FOMO like a MOFO!
Devon why din you put your first building in that ocean if you were saying that you need cards, you could have instead put on top ocean and grab 2 cards, Alex just said its not a bad spot haha
@@BoardGameCo I'd counter and say to just use that time to play MOAR TFM instead. :) TFM has a way more predictable and satisfying end game where players get the opportunity to squeeze out their final points. Ark Nova often ends abruptly and from a shocking distance away and, unless you are lucky enough to have a scoring rotation up next (since the engines score every 2 or 3 rounds and not every round like in TFM), you can get stuck with zero points at the end. Such an anticlimactic and disappointing finish for a long and random game (with a great theme). I'd play TFM 10/10 times over Ark. (@SrebMe2 didn't like it either and we cycled it from our collection after 2 or 3 plays.)
I adore this game. Definitely play with drafting, but we do NOT draft the initial 10 cards. IMO that's a bit much to start. But fun to draft Prelude cards, and then of course draft from round to round.
Did you guys skip drafting for the initial 10 cards just to save screen time? The first 10 are really important in how the game plays out. On a side note have you seen that Holy Grail Games claimed bankruptcy?
I believe the rules state that you have to pick your corp first, then your prelude bonus, and only then choose your research cards. (so not all at the same time) This makes decisions more fair. Edit: it is simultaneous, I misunderstood.
Also it's fair for everyone, if you choose cards that you said you could grab a corp focus for example on getting steel and then you receive your cards and you got none, so you could be stuck since turn 1, if it's simultaneously you could choose cards based on your corp or the other way around
Drafting is the ONLY way to play this game. Otherwise, you are basically playing 4 player co-op. And yes, drafting the initial 10 cards IS critical as it allows for hate-drafting as well as puts a real priority on your future strategy. Do you go all in on a certain path, knowing you are seeing 25% of the cards currently, or do you gobble up a car that you know is critical to the next person's favorite play-style? The game has not nearly enough PVP interaction as it is and adding as much as you can into the game is critical.
You do produce everything when the game is over because that last final production could change the resources an award is scoring.
Yes, I usually only go through that when it might make a difference
@@BoardGameCo Understandable. I should have considered that, I know you are smart enough. Plus wanting to cut time for the video.
I dream one day of a board game channel showing a game with card drafting that has pocket cams to show the cards a-la World Series of Poker
Oh man, that would be good.
What sleeves are you using for Terraforming Mars? They look more substantial than penny sleeves, but not quite as bulky as Gamegenic Primes.
Will be covering soon :)
I would love to verbally skirmish with Mr. Obnoxious. lol dry humor is interesting. Great show I’m in. You got my sub
Fun playthrough. The Big Box expansion provides great components, glad to see it highlighted here. Is there a reason you didn't use the upgraded parameter trackers in place of the white cubes?
Woot, Devon! Way to pretend you didn't know the game in the beginning to lull them into a false sense of security. :)
Haha, I'm devious!
My only issue with this game is the poor quality and graphics of the cards and board. The gameplay is incredible, I just wish they would re-do the cards to match the quality and style of Ares Expedition.
Right after West 'burnt it' this morning, lol...
Lol
Alex - Is this setup your preferred way of playing TM or do you usually play with any of the other expansions?
I vote for Blue on AP!😂
Ty for this video!
Great gameplay cheers Devon I thought he would lose and he won pretty good haha
I got lucky 😉
He destroyed us
@@DevonTalksTabletop Lucky that the brothers didn't zero in on those milestones, 8 credits for 5 points, that is an insane payoff - plus it's 5 points your opponents don't score, they are big. If AP had just one of those he wins. Also they should have leached points from your greenery tiles.
You draft the Prelude cards but not the starting 10?? I don't always draft the starting 10 because it can take a minute, but drafting Prelude cards isn't a thing, but I'll consider it now.
14:00 min. He could not play electro catapult because his electric was on zero level. But he spend steel, not energy))
I've been very interested in getting this game. I want everything! But it's so expensive. The PM is about to close early next month for the latest campaign and I got the FOMO like a MOFO!
Devon why din you put your first building in that ocean if you were saying that you need cards, you could have instead put on top ocean and grab 2 cards, Alex just said its not a bad spot haha
Devon never got his monies for placing that greenery tile 😢
Oh...good catch!
This game is still great!
Ark Nova is amazing. I prefer it to TM. But I do not consider them as closely tied as others and like them both.
Yeah they’re not much alike to me. Bad card art, maybe 😉
I need to play that one more
@@BoardGameCo I'd counter and say to just use that time to play MOAR TFM instead. :)
TFM has a way more predictable and satisfying end game where players get the opportunity to squeeze out their final points. Ark Nova often ends abruptly and from a shocking distance away and, unless you are lucky enough to have a scoring rotation up next (since the engines score every 2 or 3 rounds and not every round like in TFM), you can get stuck with zero points at the end. Such an anticlimactic and disappointing finish for a long and random game (with a great theme). I'd play TFM 10/10 times over Ark. (@SrebMe2 didn't like it either and we cycled it from our collection after 2 or 3 plays.)
I adore this game. Definitely play with drafting, but we do NOT draft the initial 10 cards. IMO that's a bit much to start. But fun to draft Prelude cards, and then of course draft from round to round.
Oh I spoke too soon. You didn't draft the first 10 cards either. xD
We didn't draft the initial ten, did we?
First 🐦, because blue is best ;)
There are some birds who have a very different opinion of this game 😂
Did you guys skip drafting for the initial 10 cards just to save screen time? The first 10 are really important in how the game plays out. On a side note have you seen that Holy Grail Games claimed bankruptcy?
Also there is a symbol on the bottom left of the card that tells you what expansion it comes from.
I believe the rules state that you have to pick your corp first, then your prelude bonus, and only then choose your research cards. (so not all at the same time)
This makes decisions more fair.
Edit: it is simultaneous, I misunderstood.
it's simultaneously
Also it's fair for everyone, if you choose cards that you said you could grab a corp focus for example on getting steel and then you receive your cards and you got none, so you could be stuck since turn 1, if it's simultaneously you could choose cards based on your corp or the other way around
You get to choose all at the same time. You only play them at different times obviously. It’s clearly stated in the rules for Prelude. 😅
I guess I just don’t get what everyone loves. This is that one game that I just don’t agree with people on.
Drafting is the ONLY way to play this game. Otherwise, you are basically playing 4 player co-op.
And yes, drafting the initial 10 cards IS critical as it allows for hate-drafting as well as puts a real priority on your future strategy. Do you go all in on a certain path, knowing you are seeing 25% of the cards currently, or do you gobble up a car that you know is critical to the next person's favorite play-style? The game has not nearly enough PVP interaction as it is and adding as much as you can into the game is critical.
why call it draughting it should be " pass the crap "
Lol