Margarine From Oil (1940-1949)

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  • @crocodile2006
    @crocodile2006 2 роки тому +95

    I can't believe it's not Hardened Whale Oil...

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому +6

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife 2 роки тому +5

      That's the luxury stuff reserved for the rich. 100% Whale Oil Margarine.

    • @punksintheback7062
      @punksintheback7062 2 роки тому +2

      I saw what you did there and it was very clever and funny

    • @kcstott
      @kcstott Рік тому +2

      @@VenturiLife to fry your condor omelets in😁

  • @PLuMUK54
    @PLuMUK54 2 роки тому +95

    What some people seem to not realise is that during the war you had a choice of margarine or so little butter that it may as well have been nothing. This "garbage", as one person has called it, made the difference between an empty belly and an almost full one. Few ate it from choice, but when the alternative is hunger, then they were glad it was available.

    • @danijel124
      @danijel124 2 роки тому +9

      The problem is that the human body doesnt process margarine as far as i know...

    • @auntiedough2488
      @auntiedough2488 2 роки тому +15

      My mum grew up in Manchester during WWII. Stories about rationing were mostly ignored when we were children but as I got older, I realized how it affected her. She hated food waste and made us clean our plates, she detested foods she associated with rationing, like margarine and she constantly reminded us how we took our good fortune for granted.

    • @maxasaurus3008
      @maxasaurus3008 Рік тому +2

      @@auntiedough2488 the world could do with far more people like your Mom ❤.

    • @endezeichengrimm
      @endezeichengrimm Рік тому +2

      But fasting is good for you. So it's better to eat a little butter and starve the rest of the time.

    • @placeholdername0000
      @placeholdername0000 Рік тому +5

      ​@@danijel124 The human body can process margarine. The problem occurs when saturated fats are made by hydrogenation. If this is not done carefully, trans fats are produced. These are problematic. But normal fats, and fats made to the right standards are okay.

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 2 роки тому +28

    Sadly , having read through the replies it seems to have escaped some that this was a wartime product , dairy was rationed so children had enough to benefit them . Butter was very tightly rationed so an alternative was found for baking , spreading etc .
    My grandmother's used it happily .
    Good video 👍🇬🇧

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 Рік тому

      I grew up with margarine, we called it butter, because butter was much more expensive. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it's different but not bad. The fats will clog your arteries, but butter does as well.

    • @Beezup48
      @Beezup48 Рік тому +2

      @@cynthiatolman326 margarine is toxic. Nothing wrong with butter though, it will not clog up your arteries.

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 Рік тому

      @@Beezup48 both are bad, possibly margarine is worse, but butter is not healthy, just healthier than margarine.

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 Рік тому

      I wonder if the recipe for margarine has changed over the years. They say the British were the healthiest as a result of the rationing during and a little after the war. If they were eating margarine a lot, wouldn't that countermine the argument, since margarine is now considered bad?

    • @johnnybravado7141
      @johnnybravado7141 4 місяці тому

      ​@@tilasole3252butter is not bad. case closed.

  • @Santor-
    @Santor- 2 роки тому +15

    I once did process compliance for a Unilever margarine factory in Baltimore, and i can state with certainty they only had one single ingredient as far as fats went, as it came delivered on a single railroad tank car. From that, they made all the different margarines you see in the store; "cant belueve its not butter", country crock, "special margarin", crock-o-sheit and more. Basically ALL the margarines one see in the supermarket in that section, came from that one factory, and from one single basic fat ingredient. 98% of all margarines in a typical US store is from this same one factory. I walked throught the warehouse section and were baffled all the brands i thought of as competing products, not only coming from the same factory, but same single ingredient.
    Other minor ingredients was added. But since we went through the whole factory process, it was clear that the bulk of the ingredients used, was the oil from the tank, the remainder as little as 1-2% at most.

    • @ardas77
      @ardas77 Рік тому

      crock-o-sheit is my favourite!

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo Рік тому

      Most things are this way. Take diesel for example, it all comes from the same refinery and delivered on big ships. Gets stored in huge tanks, then the brand name petrol stations all come and collect t it to deliver to their respective retail stations.
      You have factories, then you have retail brands. Each brand could never have its own factory.

  • @Brynnium
    @Brynnium 3 роки тому +30

    The flaking paint on that extruder - wonder where all the paint chips went?

    • @squirrelcovers6340
      @squirrelcovers6340 2 роки тому +17

      That's the least toxic ingredient in the mixture.

    • @karvast5726
      @karvast5726 2 роки тому +2

      I think that's not paint but corrosion over time,it'shard to tell in blavk and white,they probably where smarter than putting paint on the extruder i think.

    • @LeftIsBest001
      @LeftIsBest001 2 роки тому

      America

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 2 роки тому +1

      Mmmm... arm hair...

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому +3

      @@LeftIsBest001 This is "British Pathé"

  • @heatherknits124
    @heatherknits124 2 роки тому +14

    I love how, although they had to substitute for economics, they still included fat in the margarine- whale fat! It wasn’t Britain’s intent to starve its people. Knowing meat was in short supply, they created a butter substitute which included the desperately needed fat, barely enough, but enough, which is incredible, considering how many children could have died, given the rations. I don’t know what it was, except God, that gave them the intelligence to include whale fat. Sure, it tasted nothing like butter, but whale fat is rich in vitamins naturally. An excellent choice!

  • @FranciscoTyley
    @FranciscoTyley Рік тому +7

    As far as I can see, "margarine' is not generally available in the UK these days. The tubs and blocks in the supermarkets are called "spreads" this is not just because of a marketing exercise , but there is a statutory definition of what margarine is, and its something we do not generally want to eat. Margerine has to be 80 percent or more fat.

  • @moniquem783
    @moniquem783 2 роки тому +12

    I had no idea it originally contained whale oil. Makes sense though as whale meat was marketed as an alternative to beef or lamb in wartime leaflets. If they were using the meat, they certainly weren’t going to get rid of the oil with such a critical shortage of fats in the country! Nothing could be wasted.
    It’s funny though. The line I’ve heard most often from “do-gooder impose my health ideas on others” types is that margarine is only one molecule different to plastic. What a missed opportunity! It contains whale oil would have made far more people cringe and switch back to butter lol.

    • @rebeccanater
      @rebeccanater 2 роки тому +1

      The one molecule different arguement is made by ppl that dont know anything about science. Table salt is one molecule from poison.

    • @moniquem783
      @moniquem783 2 роки тому +1

      @@rebeccanater 😂😂😂 I wasn’t aware of that one! I do understand science enough to know that one molecule being different changes things dramatically! I use butter because I like the taste of it, but I do sometimes buy margarine in winter if I get frustrated with butter being difficult to spread when it’s cold. Actually I now have a microwave that doesn’t beep excessively and I haven’t bought margarine since I’ve had that, as it’s far more pleasant to pop the butter in that to soften than in the one I had before it.

    • @Perktube1
      @Perktube1 2 роки тому +1

      viva la difference. that's why we have salt on the table instead of sodium and chlorine gas.

    • @moniquem783
      @moniquem783 2 роки тому

      @@Perktube1 sounds much more pleasant!

  • @Wafflepudding
    @Wafflepudding Рік тому +1

    Mmm! Delicious! My favorite ingredient for food: Flavour!

  • @beandipcartography
    @beandipcartography 3 роки тому +6

    Beastly, I say !

  • @robfut9954
    @robfut9954 2 роки тому +5

    Makes it seem a lot less appetizing than I would have thought. Still better than watching hot dogs get made

  • @baivulcho
    @baivulcho 2 роки тому +13

    This is so different and shockingly more natural than what we call margarine today. So much so that it's surprising that the name of the two is the same. This process is basically emulsifying different kinds of oils together with salty water, milk and flavors - no chemical reactions to alter the fat structure. While today they just take whatever vegetable fat and they alter it's chemical structure by hydrogenating it and the output is fats that are similar (not identical, just similar enough to be solid) to animal fats, but are actually not found anywhere in nature. So as weird as the process in the video may seem it's way better than what we have today. Unless there is something really sinister in these flavors, colors and vitamins mixtures.

    • @Fridelain
      @Fridelain Рік тому +2

      when they say "hardened ground nut oil" they mean hydrogenated peanut oil.

    • @ChemCrafter
      @ChemCrafter 4 місяці тому

      Saturated fats, meaning fats saturated with hydrogen, exist in many different lengths are found in many places throughout nature. Saturating a portion of the fats with hydrogen lowers the overall melting point by removing double bond kinks in the chains that prevent them from packing closely together. As the other comment pointed out, the oils being added were already hydrogenated. It's actually much healthier nowadays as modern methods ensure that trans fats aren't being created in this process.

  • @robfut9954
    @robfut9954 2 роки тому +5

    Wonder how much knuckle hair and white paint ended up in that batch…

  • @avada0
    @avada0 2 роки тому +8

    Interesting. I'm quite sure much of this does not apply to margarine of the present. No whale oil (the ones I see have only sunflower, rapessed and palm/coconut oils), no milk cultures.

  • @kwamenimako4040
    @kwamenimako4040 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @TheMichael285
    @TheMichael285 Рік тому

    Were we ever so inoccent. To think that was necessary? I love it.

  • @leannemayor5755
    @leannemayor5755 2 роки тому +4

    I’m sure we don’t use whale oil anymore and thank goodness . I only use butter but mum loved margarine as we got older

    • @kcstott
      @kcstott Рік тому +2

      the reason the recipe is closer to plastic than butter is the lack of whale oil. they had to do something. Butter is by far better for you than anything processed.

    • @handsoffmycactus2958
      @handsoffmycactus2958 Рік тому

      @@kcstott your comment makes no sense cos butter doesn’t contain whale oil

  • @kenirawadi4689
    @kenirawadi4689 11 місяців тому

    Very interesting.

  • @williamthurmond4940
    @williamthurmond4940 2 роки тому +5

    I prefer my margarine to have extra whale oil; nothing says “good eating” like the taste of liquid Baleen.

  • @VenturiLife
    @VenturiLife 2 роки тому +1

    Whale Oil Be Fooked!

  • @shirleybalinski4535
    @shirleybalinski4535 2 роки тому +5

    Don't know about whale oil but, the world uses the other oil...palm coconut, saffron, corn, canola, etc.

  • @kath5201
    @kath5201 Рік тому

    My Father told me of mixing (american) Margarine with a color tablet to turn it yellow during the War. Butter was hard to find, and you didn't g e t much when it was available. Chicken fat, or other fats were often substituted . Margarine now a days is much better, although made with water, so you can't use it on toast. Just cold things.

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 Рік тому +3

    So what's the difference between ground nut and hardened ground nut oil?

    • @endezeichengrimm
      @endezeichengrimm Рік тому +3

      One is harder.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Рік тому

      @@endezeichengrimm *shocked pikachu face*

    • @drewgehringer7813
      @drewgehringer7813 Рік тому +7

      "Hardened oil" would be called "hydrogenated" today, its groundnut/peanut oil that's been put in a big tank with a nickel catalyst and had hydrogen bubbled through.
      What this does is 'fully saturate' the fat: some fat from unprocessed peanut oil is unsaturated fat, it has some chemical 'empty spots' where more hydrogen could be put in (or other chemical elements but this creates off flavors: oxygen filling these empty spots makes the oil taste rancid)
      Pushing hydrogen into those spots raises the oil's melting point and extends its shelf life (can't oxidize and go rancid very easily if there's fewer empty places oxygen can fit): turning a liquid oil that can go rancid if not stored cool into a spreadable-at-room-temp solid that can last for months, even years stored in a regular unchilled cupboard.

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 Рік тому +2

    I don't know what else they do, but it seems wrong to call a margarine plant a creamery. Thankful we don't use whale oil now. Our family never went hungry, but butter was an expensive luxury growing up, so to me, margarine was butter. I buy butter for myself.

  • @Vehrec
    @Vehrec Рік тому

    I love the fact that they went and added little hand-calligraphed labels to everything in the factory, they look so out of place!
    The whale oil though made me gasp aloud.

  • @opokuprinceasiedu3892
    @opokuprinceasiedu3892 2 роки тому

    Oh wow

  • @FarberBob678
    @FarberBob678 4 місяці тому

    I can’t believe it’s not hardened whale oil!

  • @ChemCrafter
    @ChemCrafter 4 місяці тому

    What was the name of the other emulsifier? Lecithin and what?

  • @rollandjoeseph
    @rollandjoeseph 4 місяці тому +1

    Nothing like a super over processed procedure with paint peeling machinery to make heart stopping butter like substance ... the amount of effort just in machinery is mind boggling..no wonder heart disease is the leading cause of death

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot 2 роки тому

    Nice...

  • @Ghargr18
    @Ghargr18 2 роки тому +6

    I wonder what they use in margarine now... I suspect less whale oil and more sunflower oil! I do wonder if they were expecting this video to encourage people to use marg instead of butter...

    • @wayinfront1
      @wayinfront1 2 роки тому +4

      No whale oil! Its use is banned in Western countries, certainly not used in making margarine now.

    • @ernstschmidt4725
      @ernstschmidt4725 2 роки тому +4

      afaik margarine's mostly palm oil now. it has become much cheaper in the world markets than coconut and much less illegal than whale oil.
      but to be honest i guess it depends on the country, americans made crisco which is mostly cottonseed and and peanut oil. russians instead have cheap sunflower oil.

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому +3

      @@ernstschmidt4725 I think sunflower and rapeseed is the most readily available. These are the first ones always mentioned on packaging. Though they always say in changing ratio, so I guess it depends on which the can acquire most cheaply. I think palm and coconut is only added to improve quality. Those are more expensive.

    • @Santor-
      @Santor- 2 роки тому

      I once did process compliance for a Unilever margarine factory in Baltimore, and i can state with certainty they only had one single ingredient as far as fats went, as it came delivered on a single railroad tank car. From that, they made all the different margarines you see in the store; "cant belueve its not butter", country crock, "special margarin", crock-o-sheit and more. Basically ALL the margarines one see in the supermarket in that section, came from that one factory, and from one single basic fat ingredient. 98% of all margarines in a typical US store is from this same one factory. I walked throught the warehouse section and were baffled all the brands i thought of as competing products, not only coming from the same factory, but same single ingredient.

  • @Kaynos
    @Kaynos Рік тому +1

    It's weird the way he pronounce it. Marge-A-Reen. I prononced it : Marg-A-Reen.

  • @amrhassan3888
    @amrhassan3888 2 роки тому +2

    طريقة صناعة السمن

  • @jax9999
    @jax9999 2 роки тому

    wonder how it tasted

  • @tomweickmann6414
    @tomweickmann6414 Рік тому

    Loves me some whale oil margarine.

  • @Fridelain
    @Fridelain Рік тому

    Ground nut = peanut?

  • @samtani278
    @samtani278 Рік тому

    Hardened Whale oil?!

  • @MargaretUK
    @MargaretUK 2 роки тому +2

    I'm guessing that being a vegan and nut allergies just hadn't been invented back then!

    • @drewgehringer7813
      @drewgehringer7813 Рік тому +4

      The ration system did make allowances for vegetarians, but apparently not vegans from what I've read: instead of meat vegetarians could get 2 eggs/week and 75g of cheese/week (compared to some meat, 1 egg, and 50g of cheese for the standard ration)

  • @davidspencer4893
    @davidspencer4893 9 днів тому

    Colouring ????

  • @tommyguns9008
    @tommyguns9008 2 місяці тому

    Emulsifier ? That’s what kills you.

  • @richardlove4287
    @richardlove4287 Рік тому

    And this was the beginning of the cancer epidemic.

  • @tilasole3252
    @tilasole3252 2 роки тому +5

    So margarine is banned in the US to be put in processed foods, because it is thought as unhealthy. But the British people were the healthiest during rationing and margarine was on the menu, helping to ease the hardship of not having butter or animal fats.
    Dairy farmers have fought against margarine from the beginning. It was even illegal to color the margarine to make it look like butter. Although they artificially coloured butter as well.
    I wonder if the ban is more about politics or health. You should not be eating butter either if you are that concerned on health or even processed foods for that matter. Not to mention butter is expensive these days.

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому +1

      USA is a crapheap of the worst of capitalism. The blatant marketing/PR lies, lobbies, pay-offs, self-interests. Of course any dietary recommendations are based on these.

    • @fintimwhimbim
      @fintimwhimbim Рік тому +1

      No, you SHOULD be eating butter. Do some research.

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 Рік тому

      @@fintimwhimbim I'll stick to extra virgin olive oil

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo Рік тому +1

      I love butter. It’s $7.50 a tub here in Australia. But I won’t go anywhere near margarine. Can’t believe my dad made us eat this when I was a child.

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 Рік тому +1

      @@antpoo he didn't know any better. Then again some people still do not know or more to the point care, that the food they are eating is not only killing themselves, but helping to destroy the planet faster.

  • @LiftOffLife
    @LiftOffLife Рік тому

    Engine oil.

  • @Nadhiyalifestyle
    @Nadhiyalifestyle 2 роки тому

    Emusifer name

  • @buxvan
    @buxvan 2 місяці тому

    Whale oil Beef Oct.

  • @Tarik360
    @Tarik360 3 роки тому +1

    It's all oil?

    • @oscargomez4970
      @oscargomez4970 2 роки тому +3

      I has always been worse that regular butter. Way more harmful

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 2 роки тому +4

      Mediterranean diet uses a lot of oil. Healthy oil like olive oil, but oil none the less. The British people were the healthiest they had ever been during the rationing phase. And they were rationed margarine, because butter and animal fats were heavily restricted. So unless ingredients changed over time, something is not adding up.
      Dairy producers have always been against margarine and it has nothing to do with people's health. Otherwise they would stop selling dairy products to consume. Something "healthier" doesn't make it healthy.

    • @Jerrynyc424
      @Jerrynyc424 2 роки тому

      @@tilasole3252 olive oils have zero omega 6’s fats Omega 6’s fats cause inflammation and cancer and heart disease. Plus seed oil is not natural. 100 years ago, they were used to lube machines, now we drink them? They use diesel fuels to clean these seed oils.. I will never drink seed oils

    • @Jerrynyc424
      @Jerrynyc424 2 роки тому

      @@tilasole3252 all oils are not created equal.. saturated fats like butter, we can digest... unsatisfied fats like seeds, coat our cells and inflate our bodies...

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому +2

      And water. Cheap margarines are 20% oil around here. :) But at least they're healthier, because of less saturated fats. And they fit for the purpose, which is to lubricate bread (which is also not natural).

  • @GabGotti3
    @GabGotti3 Рік тому +1

    Food in Britain is closer to food in the States rather than Continental Europe. Very very low regulations.

  • @mastad7876
    @mastad7876 2 роки тому +1

    植物油って言ってるけど。

  • @romansmusic09
    @romansmusic09 2 роки тому

    All of the factor migrants are dead now
    This is life

  • @Highland_Moo
    @Highland_Moo 2 роки тому +7

    Foul stuff. Good for greasing stiff wheel nuts, but not for eating. Butter is far healthier - natural and tastes heavenly.

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому

      It isn't, it's just saturated fat, of no nutritional value other than energy. And it's main use is to make bread more slippery.
      Also neither butter (or margarin), nor bread are part of the natural human diet.
      Obviously nothing made from milk that's supposed to be consumed by calves are even candidates. Nor anything cereal based, which humans are physiologically incapable of consuming, and even after much processing it rots our teeth away.

    • @Subvenio
      @Subvenio 2 роки тому

      Agreed, I always ask for no butter when I get a bacon sandwich at Greggs or any cafe because 95% of the time it ain’t butter.

  • @ابوعلي-ظ9ع5ح
    @ابوعلي-ظ9ع5ح Рік тому

    🌇🏚️🎩💐⚖️🧚💙💚

  • @mindjob
    @mindjob Рік тому

    Cleanliness? Next time they should wear gloves

  • @ronfisher4965
    @ronfisher4965 Рік тому

    Then they tell us it’s good for eating! WOW!

  • @squirrelcovers6340
    @squirrelcovers6340 2 роки тому +5

    I can't believe people eat that garbage.

    • @thammachonhawsiwalai3125
      @thammachonhawsiwalai3125 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah lol

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 2 роки тому +4

      The British people were the healthiest they had ever been during the rationing phase. And they were rationed margarine, because butter and animal fats were heavily restricted. So unless ingredients changed over time, something is not adding up.
      Dairy producers have always been against margarine and it has nothing to do with people's health. Otherwise they would stop selling dairy products to consume. Something "healthier" doesn't make it healthy.

    • @Jerrynyc424
      @Jerrynyc424 2 роки тому

      @@tilasole3252 stick to your margarine that uses diesel and acetone to extract the oil from these seeds and has 17 steps. You’re margarine Is made from seed oils... it’s a nasty business extracting these oils. It the same steps like gasoline. You got blast margarine with hydrogen too. I’ll stick to My butter.. ONE ingredient AND I can make it at HOME.

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 2 роки тому

      @@Jerrynyc424 again, the British people were better off eating less butter and more margarine. I eat neither butter nor margarine so I am set either way.

    • @avada0
      @avada0 2 роки тому

      Butter. Yeah, it's sad.

  • @craigmignone2863
    @craigmignone2863 2 роки тому +1

    People actually ate that so the Soviets could oil their boots with butter while FDR and Churchill gave them half of Europe.....

  • @Fridelain
    @Fridelain Рік тому

    Bare hands on the margarine before packing... All that fecal bacteria 🤢🤮

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo Рік тому

      Only if he did a messy wipe and didn’t wash his hands. Little bit of fecal material. 😋

  • @markward6076
    @markward6076 Рік тому

    Whale 🐳 oil ! Are you kidding me? I can't think of anything more inhumane as to harvest Whale oil 🛢 for margarine. Humans are some of the worst things that have ever happened to this world.

  • @mercyln6646
    @mercyln6646 2 роки тому +2

    The beginning of prosperity but also of doom in our health...over processed mass produced foods

  • @woodstocknun
    @woodstocknun 2 роки тому

    how to make 'death'

  • @martincook318
    @martincook318 2 роки тому

    Had I lived in those days I would sooner starve than eat that Muck:as it Probably was as disgusting as sounds

  • @klasstenmo2726
    @klasstenmo2726 Рік тому

    Pure poison!