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  • @notjustforhackers4252
    @notjustforhackers4252 23 дні тому +544

    What's even funnier is the fact people aren't even bothering to pirate it.

  • @tylerskiss
    @tylerskiss 23 дні тому +409

    Jack Harkness already kissed the Doctor. Why are people acting like this is new and groundbreaking!? The entire Torchwood show was centered on a gay character and showed multiple gay moments and the way that relationship ended was devastating.
    This is not hated because it’s gay, it’s hated because it’s forced.

    • @Grabthar191
      @Grabthar191 23 дні тому +43

      Jack was a pretty likable character. There were a few cringy moments, but not that many that I can remember. I think new SciFi is more interested in lecturing to the audience rather than telling a good story, or creating interesting characters. I am not going to voluntarily waste my time or money being condescended to by elitist hollywood jerkoffs.

    • @ChaoticYak1
      @ChaoticYak1 23 дні тому +43

      I was thinking the same thing. Jack kissed the Ninth Doctor in season 1 of NuWho. Why are they saying this was the first time?

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 23 дні тому +18

      I liked Jack. First few clips I saw of Bill were enough to tell me my time with Who was over.
      C'est la vie.

    • @Prence
      @Prence 23 дні тому +13

      Yes, listen, I’d kiss Captain Jack. He’s really cute.

    • @thing1thing2themediamaniac43
      @thing1thing2themediamaniac43 23 дні тому

      I'm Heterosexual and I HATE THIS GODDAMN BULLSHIT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS GAY

  • @bertieb7811
    @bertieb7811 23 дні тому +266

    Gay DW fans dont like it. Women dont like it. Men dont like it. Men who dress as women dont like it. RTD is the only one who thinks this is what fans want

    • @thehound9638
      @thehound9638 23 дні тому

      This happens more than you might think. They try to entice women black people and gay people, but the people from those demographics who like these programmes like them the way they are. Those who don't like them don't really become fans when they get their way, they just move onto the next franchise to continue the culture war they pretend they're not waging.

    • @sterlingarcher857
      @sterlingarcher857 23 дні тому +36

      But this is the issue...its not what he thinks the fans want.....id argue he hasnt the first clue what they want, if he ever even did......
      Its what HE wants....thats all that matters.

    • @syntaxusdogmata3333
      @syntaxusdogmata3333 23 дні тому +23

      Seriously, how is this the guy who brought Doctor Who back in 2005?

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 23 дні тому +7

      RTD and Trim'n' Chibs like it. Cutie Gaytwa' tlikes it

    • @OvalRock
      @OvalRock 23 дні тому +12

      RTD does what ideologues with power do, he makes what he thinks the fans should accept. What the fans want is not a consideration.

  • @shirgall
    @shirgall 23 дні тому +126

    "Fans turn off Doctor Who"? More like "Doctor Who turns off fans"

  • @moseshorowitz4345
    @moseshorowitz4345 23 дні тому +244

    I miss the silly kids show of my youth, where a loony guy with a long scarf and a robot dog had adventures filled with dodgy special effects.

    • @sterlingarcher857
      @sterlingarcher857 23 дні тому +25

      And not once did he want any sausage.....
      Good times.

    • @royaltyfreemusiccollective8662
      @royaltyfreemusiccollective8662 23 дні тому +16

      And Jellybabies. Probably ban those next because they're not vegan

    • @jitblues
      @jitblues 23 дні тому

      I prefer to watch old videos of Super Chicken, Henry Cabot Henhouse the Third, millionaire playboy is Super Chicken.

    • @poohslosteyes264
      @poohslosteyes264 23 дні тому +11

      Started with Steven Moffat thinking Doctor Who should be prestige television when it simply isn't. It's been overproduced for 15 or so years now; pare back the budget and get some proper writers in, not artsy fartsy theatre kids. Staffers, jobbers, meat and potatoes chaps of the sort that were doing the show back in the 60s and 70s.

    • @loganblackwood2922
      @loganblackwood2922 23 дні тому +1

      Bung stuffers

  • @DanielEbeck
    @DanielEbeck 23 дні тому +316

    Even my gay nerdy friends think Who is garbage now.

    • @Fleshbag453
      @Fleshbag453 23 дні тому

      Mine refuse to see reason

    • @Knight_Kin
      @Knight_Kin 23 дні тому +32

      We agree with you, it's garbage.

    • @elijahtiemens5532
      @elijahtiemens5532 23 дні тому +15

      Why is it that these gay people who “hate the weird new LGBT” are only ever anonymous UA-cam commenters or niche Internet personalities? Every single one of the LGBT organizations which form the core of their social and political power base are unanimously in favor of stuff like what Doctor Who is doing.

    • @raymondjohnson1824
      @raymondjohnson1824 23 дні тому +1

      Only now they do? So they were part of the problem up until now...?

    • @sketch_0193
      @sketch_0193 23 дні тому

      @@elijahtiemens5532 ....because they get shunned/berated/lectured and ostracized for not conforming to the collective thought bubble. I got LGBTQ friends and family and they cant relate to any of this drivel yet they cant voice that because the ''oh so tolerant people'' take any constructive criticism as an attack on their identity/feelings/livelihoods/thought process or whatever else they can find and twist to make themselves feel ''right''
      ''Every single one of the LGBT organizations which form the core of their social and political power base are unanimously in favor'...' Unsurprising thought process.....because critics get eaten.
      Each to their own though. Blessings.

  • @sollygratia
    @sollygratia 23 дні тому +266

    The powers that be don't care, because it is activism, not entertainment.

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +8

      That would be poetry if it wasn't sadly very true

    • @Ecosse57
      @Ecosse57 23 дні тому +2

      💯%

    • @syntaxusdogmata3333
      @syntaxusdogmata3333 23 дні тому +2

      @@SharreIWright Tragic poetry's not your thing, eh?

    • @RikuLanora
      @RikuLanora 23 дні тому

      Right! Noone cared when Harkness kissed 9th doctor in finale of season 1 when he was about to die. It wasnt a problem because it wasnt pushed on us, it was entertainment.

    • @Morris1581
      @Morris1581 23 дні тому +2

      Its Propaganda!

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclure 23 дні тому +187

    I love the defense comments. All of them include the words “black” and “gay” and “kiss”. Then “groundbreaking” and “important”. Almost as if there was a narrative pushed through bots….

    • @lawr5764
      @lawr5764 23 дні тому +13

      Almost??

    • @jitblues
      @jitblues 23 дні тому

      S0domy is groundbreaking?

    • @Generalphoenix8438
      @Generalphoenix8438 23 дні тому +2

      Yet they don't realise we had jack kiss both the doctor and rose. So they had gay already they just wanted woke.

    • @poohslosteyes264
      @poohslosteyes264 23 дні тому +4

      The fanbase skews incredibly young nowadays. Most of them are literal children who've been raised on this crap and know no better.

    • @DarkSun123456789
      @DarkSun123456789 23 дні тому +1

      @@lawr5764 I know sarcasm doesn't go well in writing, but this was obvious as hell dude....

  • @ridensroom6957
    @ridensroom6957 23 дні тому +103

    If the doctor being gay really isnt a big deal then why did they need a gay actor to do it?

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +11

      Good point

    • @hotdog1214
      @hotdog1214 22 дні тому +7

      Because RTD is obsessed with the idea that you can't pretend to be something you're not. We used to call that acting. 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀

    • @therandomvideochannel8589
      @therandomvideochannel8589 21 день тому +4

      i think it's fine that a gay actor is portraying the doctor but WHY DID THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT HIS MAIN PERSONALITY TRAIT? it's so weird seeing the doctor being a horndog and basically hitting on rogue the whole episode. the number of times he starts a sentence with 'honey' is also crazy

  • @bigbreakfast4744
    @bigbreakfast4744 23 дні тому +112

    I'm loving the downfall of everything Woke.

  • @fearthehoneybadger
    @fearthehoneybadger 23 дні тому +201

    Star Bores Accolyte is already blaming the fans for walking away.

    • @djohn1671
      @djohn1671 23 дні тому +11

      doctor woke.

    • @davidknight2104
      @davidknight2104 23 дні тому +14

      They told people to go touch grass lol so funny

    • @fredo1070
      @fredo1070 23 дні тому +1

      They're not fans if they are walking away.

    • @andrewmclachlan4242
      @andrewmclachlan4242 23 дні тому +6

      More "SNORE BORES" Than Snore Wars 😂😂😂

    • @mikeguilmette776
      @mikeguilmette776 23 дні тому +6

      I'm convinced there are going to be actors who demand that viewing their shows be mandatory.

  • @yourikhan4425
    @yourikhan4425 23 дні тому +287

    The "Timelords can change their gender" crap has been pushed recently to prepare for the Doctor's own gender change. I call foul.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 23 дні тому +41

      We have always been at war with Eastasia.

    • @lesigh1749
      @lesigh1749 23 дні тому +51

      Indeed, in the classic series there were lords and ladies on Gallifrey, and we never saw them change sex even where different actors played the role in different stories. Gender swapping makes no sense for a society with families. Moffat inserted that in the Doctors wife, and it never existed as an option before that time.

    • @countofdownable
      @countofdownable 23 дні тому +17

      Only mentioned during the Matt Smith era.

    • @Alex-od6cl
      @Alex-od6cl 23 дні тому +26

      Blame Steven Moffat

    • @gunsharck
      @gunsharck 23 дні тому +18

      @@Alex-od6clExactly. Writers now always inject their politics

  • @michaelnash2138
    @michaelnash2138 23 дні тому +43

    I preferred the Tom Baker era when the Doctor traipsed around with companions like Sarah and (pant, pant) Leela but never gave either one a second look. Sex, gender, none of it was ever even mentioned.

    • @EliWintercross
      @EliWintercross 23 дні тому +9

      Exactly. The doctor was already a grandfather, he had no interest in any further romance.

    • @alsmith9853
      @alsmith9853 23 дні тому

      The doctor was an alien with a massive life span. He was not interested in a human female, and he kinda had more important things such as saving planets

  • @captainmeatsadventures7954
    @captainmeatsadventures7954 23 дні тому +26

    Remember when Dr Who was a show where a man traveled in a spaceship and dealing with Aliens?

  • @Aliksander54
    @Aliksander54 23 дні тому +39

    *Show caters to a dedicated niche audience
    *Niche audience seen as nerdy/geeky for many years for liking the show
    *show asked to be more 'inclusive' and for a 'wider audience', fanbase says "Sure! We are so glad you are finally interested! The more the merrier!"
    *show morphs into something unrecognizable from the original, original audience starts complaining
    *original audience made into outcasts again, show continues on fumes, 'new' audience eventually moves on and show dies
    As so many have said of late: GATEKEEP, GATEKEEP, AND KEEP GATEKEEPING AS HARD AS YOU CAN!

  • @robertanderson6929
    @robertanderson6929 23 дні тому +130

    BBC doesn't care. The taxpayers will be forced to subsidize the show. And when the show is ultimately cancelled for good the woke will cheer the final destruction of an other icon of Western culture. Like Star Trek for the US, Doctor Who represented the pinnacle of British culture. British morals were always proven as superior and Britain always prevailed.
    But the people in control of these franchises hate Western culture and they hate Great Britain with a ferocity one normally associates with the religious wars of the 15th century or with the Maoist revolution. They will not be satisfied until they have utterly burned the greatest civilization to the ground so that they can rule over the cinders.

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +6

      Very well put

    • @TheLyricalDavidJames
      @TheLyricalDavidJames 23 дні тому

      Maoist is right. It's never enough for them that they are controlling the future, they are furiously driven to destroy the past.

    • @Robman0908
      @Robman0908 23 дні тому

      That’s exactly why Disney doesn’t give a shit about what they are doing. They know that the Democrat party will consider them too important to fail and will bail them out with tax payer dollars if it gets to that point.

    • @garlicgorilla6540
      @garlicgorilla6540 23 дні тому

      @@user-ef5ug6jx5nstop noticing

    • @floriangeyer1
      @floriangeyer1 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@user-ef5ug6jx5n what is "loxism"?
      Something to do with the ideology of smoked salmon?

  • @jameswhittingham8027
    @jameswhittingham8027 23 дні тому +15

    It's guilty of the worst crime in entertainment: it's boring.

  • @davotradingni7335
    @davotradingni7335 21 день тому +7

    It’s fucking disgusting that we are forced to pay a tv licence

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому +1

      I'm in the U.S.A., but I've always thought that was unfair on y'all.

    • @codeguy7309
      @codeguy7309 20 днів тому +1

      if I am not mistaken, you can file to stop paying this tv tax

  • @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
    @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 23 дні тому +22

    The grass is still green. It doesn't call you a bigot and it feels nice to the touch. Highly recommended. Audience score 99%, with 1% dislikes complaining that the grass isn't woke enough.

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar 23 дні тому +9

    Remember when Doctor Who was about traveling through space and time, having adventures?
    Yeah, I miss those times.

  • @veganconservative1109
    @veganconservative1109 23 дні тому +10

    Once upon a time I would have been bemoaning that a Doctor Who season was reduced to less than two months worth of episodes.
    Now I'm RELIEVED.

  • @docsavage8640
    @docsavage8640 23 дні тому +54

    If you're still giving them.your money, you are the problem

    • @Laneous14
      @Laneous14 23 дні тому +6

      ...do you understand what the BBC is?

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +7

      In the UK it's requirement by law to pay for a tv tax license or face imprisonment

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому

      Although the BBC are now getting handouts from an evil commercial company yet still charging viewers with the tv tax

    • @m1lkb0n3z
      @m1lkb0n3z 23 дні тому +2

      The problem is the BBC is funded by the TV licensing fee, so the funding is theoretically unlimited. In the UK, you have to pay it if you own a television. It doesn't matter what you watch or even if you watch TV at all; owning the device is enough to obligate you for the fee. (Same applies to radios.) So UK consumers don't have the power of the purse regarding television that they would for cinema, for example. If you're outside the UK, though, you can make it unprofitable for the BBC's distribution costs by just not watching Dr. Who.

    • @David_M395
      @David_M395 23 дні тому +11

      @@m1lkb0n3z There is a misunderstanding here. Owning a TV does not obligate you to have a tv licence. It is only if you watch or record TV as it is being broadcast or use IPlayer. If you only watch via catchup, streaming or use youtube etc you do not need one.

  • @lordtrinen2249
    @lordtrinen2249 23 дні тому +28

    First ever gay kiss? I see that when Captain Jack kissed the 9th Doctor at the end of the first season of New Who that it doesn't count for...reasons? RTD was in charge of New Who back then too, right? Asshole doesn't even remember his own stories now. No one involved in modern Who remember it. They don't care about the past. They want whatever they're doing RIGHT NOW to always be the first and most stunning and brave event in history.

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales 23 дні тому +1

      And didn't Matt Smith's doctor kiss Rory? First my arse.

    • @lordtrinen2249
      @lordtrinen2249 22 дні тому +2

      @@lovetolovefairytales That one I don't remember but it wouldn't surprise me.

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales 22 дні тому +1

      @@lordtrinen2249 I swear I remember a scene where Matt grabbed Rory and kissed him. Don't remember which episode but I know it happened.

    • @christopherflowers6583
      @christopherflowers6583 19 днів тому

      ​@@lovetolovefairytales dinosaurs on a spaceship

  • @willem1642
    @willem1642 23 дні тому +7

    I don't remember seeing William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, or Tom Baker kissing anyone, female or male.

  • @franko2886
    @franko2886 23 дні тому +63

    Dr Whomosexual 😂

  • @slowlydrowninginirrelevance
    @slowlydrowninginirrelevance 22 дні тому +4

    The sooner the BBC goes to a subscription service the better, this dumpster fire would never get renewed.

  • @muaddib7356
    @muaddib7356 23 дні тому +4

    I'm a proud member of the "Go & Touch Grass" club!
    Please join me!! 😄

  • @agentsmithmememe
    @agentsmithmememe 23 дні тому +4

    The irony is they claim they did it first but history shows otherwise

  • @chriscma1
    @chriscma1 23 дні тому +58

    Never thought I would say Doctor Who is a program I can't allow my children to watch without supervision.

    • @AnnThracks1
      @AnnThracks1 23 дні тому +2

      Why would you let them watch it at all?

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому

      And that is exactly the demographic they want to catch... The younger the better to start the gr00m!ing. Take that as you will.

  • @O4C209
    @O4C209 23 дні тому +7

    After watching a couple of episodes of "season 1", my family decided to go back and watch season 1 with Eccleston. Such a superior series. Jack was openly bisexual and kissed the Doctor in the last episode. The thing is, that was done in a playful manner. It's like it's all in good fun. Now it's pushed as "This is the right way and you have to accept it or you're the problem."
    Furthermore, Ncuti Gatwa (and Jodie Whitaker) Do Not have the charisma to play the Doctor.
    It takes a special type to play a character that is equally whimsical, alien, nerdy, and terrifying as the Doctor, while still being able to convince anyone and everyone to come along on an incredible journey.

  • @nicholastotoro7721
    @nicholastotoro7721 23 дні тому +14

    When they make the episodes and series' as gigantic self-inserts or for DEI/ESG, you're told not to watch... it's not made for you.
    When you don't watch, you're called an istaphobe.

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому +2

      Damned if you do, damned if you don't... The only way to win is to ignore them all and go your own way... The east has some good entertainment left for us (for now at least).

  • @MarkVA71
    @MarkVA71 23 дні тому +18

    I'm gay and I don't want the Doctor to have any kind of sexuality. When RTD gave him one back in 2005 a lot of us complained and his response was no different than it is today, "It's my show, I do what I want!" A lot of our straight fan friends pooed pooed us but you see where they took this now...

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому

      I never gave a crap about g4ys... I'm a live and let live guy... But I'm also the kind of guy that doesn't like PDA of any kind (do it in the privacy of you own home or not at all), and dislike it even more in entertainment (movies, shows, games (SPECIALLY GAMES!!)). I like Sci FI, Adventure, Fantasy, Action... Hate Romance, S3x, PDA, Drama in any kind of media, so don't mix in that crap, stick to one genre, so people who like one genre and enjoy it without having to take all the others on it!
      Its not that hard really, most great movies and shows of old, had a little of romance/PDA mixed in, without being the main focus and without wasting much time on it just to please a female demographic (because males care little about it anyways).

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      Ass to that the fact that the Doctor is centuries old, so anyone he meets, especially form Earth, is generations too young for him.

    • @BarbarellaAlpha
      @BarbarellaAlpha 19 днів тому

      not all st8 fans wanted it either
      and no doubt a lot of those fans that liked it were also non st8, they likely are those same colored haired wokesters on twitterX and those other sites staring with T

  • @lescorlett4133
    @lescorlett4133 23 дні тому +31

    Narcissists always blame others for their own failures

  • @surlyunicorn9461
    @surlyunicorn9461 23 дні тому +6

    Doctor Who, like many other things, has been dying a slow death for years, and people’s interest in it has dwindled steadily and inevitably for me and many others it has now disappeared entirely. I’m sure these destroyers are happy that they’ve watched us bury another thing we once loved. It’s the act of ripping something apart that gives them any happiness at all, but that moment of triumph is always fleeting, never sustainable. An endless hunger that consumes them. Eventually they’ll find themselves surrounded by ruins and nothing left to break.

  • @5150show
    @5150show 23 дні тому +4

    These ratings disasters don’t spell well for the future for entertainment. Anything they do from now on won’t be measured by ratings and profits, it’s all about mind manipulation, the message and social engineering- at ANY cost

  • @Felix-Sited
    @Felix-Sited 23 дні тому +6

    The show runners hate the audience. They should be fired.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому +1

      That's what Chris Eccleston said!

  • @popuptarget7386
    @popuptarget7386 23 дні тому +14

    They don't make these shows for us. They make them for each other.

  • @charlescaine6022
    @charlescaine6022 23 дні тому +7

    Think how low the viewership numbers could get if this Doctor had a 16 or 24 episode season.

  • @Prence
    @Prence 23 дні тому +70

    I’m a transgender woman and I’m one of the demographic they are aiming this at and I refuse to watch this trash fire.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 23 дні тому

      Male or female is determined by your DNA. That cannot be altered by thinking, wishing, "identifying", or mutilation through hormones/surgery. You are a male. You were born a male. You will die a male. 100 years from now, if DNA testing were done on your remains, it would show Male.

    • @yaqbulyakkerbat4190
      @yaqbulyakkerbat4190 23 дні тому +14

      Too true. My trans friends HATE being pandered to. they just want to be treated as people, not bloody children

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +6

      Spot on

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +11

      ​@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190yup me too, I'm trans but I hate this forced diversity and inclusion I'll watch something because I like it and not because it's made under arrogant assumption that it's what I'm watching to watch

    • @Prence
      @Prence 23 дні тому

      @@SharreIWright I hate they are using our community just for some points. We aren’t a prop to be drug out when they want to look like they actually care. They need to forget us like the rest of the year. They don’t care.

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 23 дні тому +4

    I haven't watched a single episode of Dr. Wokeness since just after discovering he was socially and critically corrupted.

  • @aronoc3599
    @aronoc3599 23 дні тому +10

    They've been saying the quiet part out loud for years, but now they're positively screaming it. But the ratings just prove audiences are horrible mean istaphobes!!

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 21 день тому +1

      The Church of Woke sees "sin" everywhere.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      @@Woke_Invaders Whilst promoting some of the worst sins imaginable.

  • @Foxonian
    @Foxonian 23 дні тому +3

    With Disney + on the verge of being dropped from most streaming platforms, hardly anyone in the US will be able to watch this show. And that's a good thing.

  • @michaelkata2342
    @michaelkata2342 23 дні тому +5

    This isn't Doctor Who, it's the Ncuti Gatwa power hour.

    • @Laneous14
      @Laneous14 23 дні тому

      Power bottom hour.

    • @glerp10000000000
      @glerp10000000000 23 дні тому

      Shame that the episode when he's hardly in it has higher viewing figures than ones where he is.

  • @TheNuclearGeek
    @TheNuclearGeek 23 дні тому +5

    How many Doctors did Jack Harkness kiss? 2 plus another companion?
    "First gay kiss" isn't even close to the first. They just didn't make it the whole damn story!

  • @Zeoran
    @Zeoran 23 дні тому +41

    Fruity Gatwa is NOT the Doctor.
    And this was NOT the "first" gay kiss in DW either. Morons needs to watch the show they're ruining.

    • @InJeffable
      @InJeffable 23 дні тому +4

      He's really not the Doctor from the way I look at it. The Doctor was left behind on earth with Donna. This person masquerading as the Doctor is a brand new Time Lord who split off from the real Doctor.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 23 дні тому +2

      Cutie Gaytwa' (add t at end at your discretion )

    • @poohslosteyes264
      @poohslosteyes264 23 дні тому

      This is what happens when you don't gatekeep your fandoms. Why do you think there was such a huge media-sponsored backlash against gatekeeping starting about 10 years ago? And once the gates are open, the floods and torrents come in ever larger waves. Now we've got this prat mincing around in women's tops and skirts, and we're wondering how the fuck we got here.

    • @Cmdr1962
      @Cmdr1962 23 дні тому +1

      Captain Jack Harkness kissed the Doctor and Shakespeare propositioned him, causing 57 academics to punch the air. Having the Doctor willingly tonsil wrestle Rogue may be a first. In any case, the love aspect was forced/rushed/stupid. The writing doesn't support the emotional beats.

    • @kenricnarbrough8191
      @kenricnarbrough8191 22 дні тому

      i also thought;
      'hang on. this kiss isn't any kind of FIRST'
      what an appalling fall from grace for this show.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 23 дні тому +31

    Weren’t there gay kisses in torchwood? It’s the same franchise this is nothing new.

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 23 дні тому +6

      The doctor is thousands of years old, from a culture not bound to physical motivations as humans are, and as a rule…doesn’t pursue romantic or sexual relations with his companions. Torchwood introduces a “pansexual” character as a means to get it into the show.

    • @Bvggerffpls
      @Bvggerffpls 23 дні тому +4

      Yeah, as annoying as woke agenda-pushing can be, focusing on a gay kiss detracts from the actual problem: the fact that Dr Who just isn't good anymore.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 23 дні тому +4

      Pushing an agenda and lecturing the audience is new

    • @trg8858
      @trg8858 23 дні тому +1

      @@qdllcapart that time the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th doctor had a romantic fling or stint with a companion

    • @Sage521
      @Sage521 23 дні тому +3

      This is forced and literally being shoved down our throats at this point though. That's the difference. Plus, Jack wanted everything that moved or breathed regardless of their sex. Let the activists sink the show entirely is my opinion. I stopped watching a decade ago when they emasculated Capaldi's doctor. 😐

  • @laurenanderson61
    @laurenanderson61 23 дні тому +5

    I don't understand why "woke" is always paired with "terrible writing"

    • @BarbarellaAlpha
      @BarbarellaAlpha 19 днів тому

      you dont?
      then understand what woke is and you will

  • @stephenshelton4267
    @stephenshelton4267 23 дні тому +15

    The ratings are getting dire, Batwahmans level dire.

    • @elijahtiemens5532
      @elijahtiemens5532 23 дні тому +2

      The show that got three seasons, despite consistently low ratings?

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому

      It's not about the money...

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому +1

      I had to look that up; I thought it was a Hindu word, lol.

  • @stephenbarr1355
    @stephenbarr1355 23 дні тому +11

    The deniers will say millions watch it on the BBC Iplayer

    • @noneyabizness6094
      @noneyabizness6094 23 дні тому +3

      The consolidated ratings reveal this to be cope

    • @codyw1
      @codyw1 23 дні тому +3

      The consolidated for last weeks are nearly as low as the live figure for the worst rated classic ep. Stick a fork in it, this shit is done.

  • @justinwhite2725
    @justinwhite2725 23 дні тому +30

    Torchwood was well received and Captain Jack had open gay relations with some of the characters.
    There was even a scene where Ianto's sister was questioning him about his relationship with Jack where he justified that he wasn't really gay.... It's just Jack.
    Sexuality is truly not the issue. It's how hamfisted THE MESSAGE(tm) is.

    • @Zontar82
      @Zontar82 23 дні тому +6

      Indeed, the problem is not that there are gay relationsahip or protagonists but that they have to smash them in your face as in "look, LOOK WE ARE GAY HURR DURR " and must be in every kind of media from movies to games

    • @Keyven_
      @Keyven_ 23 дні тому +3

      Yeah Torchwood was great, loved it. Didnt feel stupid and forced at all. Jack was such a fun character to watch

    • @javierroa2171
      @javierroa2171 23 дні тому +3

      I don't agree. That's pretty disgusting.

    • @CreationBrosZone-km5be
      @CreationBrosZone-km5be 23 дні тому +1

      That was before we knew there was an agenda. It was always there and now we know.

  • @cursim
    @cursim 23 дні тому +8

    Dave: One thing I see a lot on social media is people saying "Doctor Who has always been woke" or "Star Trek has always been woke". I struggle to articulate to these people why it isn't the same. I'd love to see a video from you making the distinction

    • @trg8858
      @trg8858 23 дні тому

      How isn’t it the same? Caves of androzani and dot and bubble are almost identical in their “woke” and commentary 🤷‍♂️

    • @SpaceForce635
      @SpaceForce635 23 дні тому +1

      It's pretty easy. The former at least had compelling stories, at present all they have is box checking.
      Look at how they market their shows now. They lead with box checking but barely if at all talk about the actual story. The Acolyte is a great example, look at how much time they spend talking about the various boxes checked but very little in the way of descriptive language describing the series itself.

    • @ianmc87
      @ianmc87 23 дні тому +1

      Same here. There is a distinction.

    • @Fleshbag453
      @Fleshbag453 23 дні тому

      The difference is how they portray it. In older shows with progressive themes, they just let things play out and didn't draw attention to it but now they _have_ to talk about it. About how _gay_ it is, how it _breaks glass ceilings_ and all that kind of junk. Doesn't help when we have access to the thoughts of the people behind the show and all they talk about is how fans are toxic, evil, misogynists for not falling in line while they force their ham fisted message into everything aspect of a once beloved property. If anything, their methods are only going to make things worse for the lgbtq+ community, I already can't tolerate the T and Q parts of that community because of how absolutely obnoxious, self righteous, and entitled their most public people act among other reasons.

    • @SharreIWright
      @SharreIWright 23 дні тому +1

      It's called gaslighting

  • @AmandaBaker-qy7cr
    @AmandaBaker-qy7cr 23 дні тому +20

    Well done! The effort and passion are evident.

  • @Witnessmoo
    @Witnessmoo 23 дні тому +20

    This is so so sad - nothing is sacred to these cultural vandals. It’s so repugnant and horrible.

    • @johnhazlett3711
      @johnhazlett3711 23 дні тому

      You know? That's a perfect description of woke lefties! Cultural vandals! They're absolutely despicable!

  • @royaldawg7568
    @royaldawg7568 23 дні тому +3

    Serves them right for ruining my favorite franchise. I hope it destroys the show.

  • @OvalRock
    @OvalRock 23 дні тому +4

    The BBC and Disney are doing their damnedest to please the 'modern audience'. Well, the 'modern audience' can have Dr Who, it is theirs now.

  • @harrietlovesgeeks
    @harrietlovesgeeks 23 дні тому +48

    The woke took over the episode. People were dying and the doctor didn't care.

  • @alanw737
    @alanw737 23 дні тому +22

    You got to let it go, man. It's not worth your time anymore. Dr. Who has been dead for awhile.

    • @BarbarellaAlpha
      @BarbarellaAlpha 19 днів тому

      being quiet and not pushing back is what lead us to this

  • @laurenced2916
    @laurenced2916 23 дні тому +24

    Stop paying the TV licence fee while you're at it

  • @MirandaSinistra
    @MirandaSinistra 23 дні тому +2

    Who on earth would show this to their children?

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      Tragically, children are exposed to a lot of filth these days, and I mean stuff way worse than this.

  • @tracypitchford6920
    @tracypitchford6920 22 дні тому +2

    The thing is is that Russell T Davis has the absolute cheek to call us all homophobes. Forgetting that when he wrote Queer as Folk and It’s a Sin people loved those shows, it’s a sin was even put up for awards. It’s the fact that they are shoehorning an agenda into a sci-fi series. When they write a show about gay people, people watch it but not when they just want to push the message into a show that isn’t supposed to have the message in it.

  • @JohnDL212
    @JohnDL212 23 дні тому +37

    TBH... as a gay man myself I don't even want this shoved into all our shows. Something like this can be seen as progressive if it's organic and worked into a show in a natural way. They don't do that. They have bad writing, bad acting an d then decide to push in every social agenda into each and every show. No one appreciates this. This is by no means something most gay fans are asking for or even appreciate.

    • @613harbinger316
      @613harbinger316 23 дні тому

      I get the feeling this kind of stuff isn't even made _for_ gay people, but to impress other, mostly non-gay, progressives with how much they're doing to advance the agenda. Or make them jealous by parading their really expensive, upper class and high-level virtue-signaling even better than everyone else trying to climb that totem pole.

  • @NOSHER
    @NOSHER 23 дні тому +3

    I used to hide behind the sofa when the original sea devils were on screen...now I hide when the main titles start till the end credits have finished 😢

    • @codyw1
      @codyw1 23 дні тому +1

      Kids are hiding from Fruity Gatwa now.

  • @diracsea4590
    @diracsea4590 23 дні тому +2

    Apparently rock bottom has a basement

  • @karlosthejackel69
    @karlosthejackel69 23 дні тому +2

    I’m starting to see ‘why’ there was a societal barrier to certain minorities.
    Seems justifiable now

  • @smylesg
    @smylesg 23 дні тому +3

    It's an inverse trajectory based on the increased population. If more people exist, more people should be watching. Great job guys.

  • @M24071
    @M24071 23 дні тому +4

    Even the gays don't want or care for this dumpster fire

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 23 дні тому +2

      Tough. They started it, now they gotta eat it.

    • @M24071
      @M24071 23 дні тому

      @@Rampart.X they constantly complain about no representation but then don't watch it when they do have representation it's hypocrisy at it's best

  • @Origen17
    @Origen17 17 днів тому

    They don't realize that pulling a stunt like that amounts to psychological assault in our own living room. It's unconscionable.

  • @morgangallowglass8668
    @morgangallowglass8668 23 дні тому +1

    I gave up on Dr. Who when they utterly wasted Capaldi.

  • @jimtaylor294
    @jimtaylor294 23 дні тому +5

    The key difference between this garbage and the DS9 episode where Jadzia Dax kissed another woman, was that DS9 wasn't a wokefest, had likeable well developed characters, that it serves a purpose in the story... *and* that it was seriously hot 😂 .
    (granted; men in general have no issue with girls kissing & never have; being a lesbian or bi woman has never been illegal in Britain)
    Ironically Doctor Who had a kind of moment like DS9's when Toshiko in Torchwood repeatedly kissed a female alien... though that worked (and the series wasn't the same after Tosh' was killed off) and was popular because it was still years before the woke misandry became overt.

  • @thriddoctor
    @thriddoctor 23 дні тому +4

    It comes from a place of utter spite towards long term, real fans. Only a retcon from 2017 onwards will save it.

    • @codyw1
      @codyw1 23 дні тому +2

      Bingo. It's not even fanfiction. It's spitefiction.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      I'd even go so far as to say, let's start again from where the 1994 movie left off.

  • @citizengkar1811
    @citizengkar1811 23 дні тому +2

    Its spiteful vandalism.

  • @JohnSmith-sb2fp
    @JohnSmith-sb2fp 23 дні тому +3

    2.1 million people still watching that shyte..... crazy.

  • @ExpressoMechanicTV
    @ExpressoMechanicTV 23 дні тому +4

    Wish I could get in the Tardis and go back to the 1970s...

  • @rkitchen69
    @rkitchen69 23 дні тому +3

    It should just be cancelled and bring it back in ten years time. A big fresh reset is needed with a new direction, writers and cast.

  • @613harbinger316
    @613harbinger316 23 дні тому +1

    I wonder if these actors and actresses have secret misgivings when they consider that their skin color or their sexual orientation are more important than their skill or accomplishments. If that diminishes on a conscious or unconscious level how much they feel like they've earned their success. It's easy to think that they're simply woke and wholeheartedly believe in it, but given simple statistics there have to be some who are self-aware enough to realize what's happening. That perhaps all this double-downing is a form of over-compensation in the face of the reality of their own perceived status as objects used for self-aggrandizement by progressives and such, instead of people. Ironic how the side of the aisle that congratulates itself for being so anti-racist, non-sexist, and non-istaphobe are the ones parasitically practicing those very sins the most.

  • @EricSmith-gx7lu
    @EricSmith-gx7lu 22 дні тому +1

    The character is acting completely different than previous versions. In addition to pushing an agenda, they changed the character into essentially a different person, but kept the same name.

  • @Xenomurphy
    @Xenomurphy 23 дні тому +3

    It's all Disney's fault.
    Everythin they touch turns into shit: Star Wars, Marvel, Willow, Indiana Jones, Simpsons, Alien ... and now, Doctor Who.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      All of those have their own production companies; blame Disney oif you like, but the truth is, wokeness is everywhere in Hollyweird.

  • @arisaga822
    @arisaga822 23 дні тому +10

    Why even bother anymore?
    I gave up on Star Wars in the 2000’s
    I gave up on the MCU circa 2008,
    I gave up on Star Trek after TNG
    I gave up on Warhammer 40k after 5th edition.

    • @charliechurch5004
      @charliechurch5004 23 дні тому

      Star trek TNG was so good ...... 😞 They don't make em like that anymore

    • @keegobricks9734
      @keegobricks9734 23 дні тому +1

      DS9 and the last two seasons of ENT are good, probably better than TNG.

    • @Zontar82
      @Zontar82 23 дні тому +1

      well for st you missed A LOT by not watching ds9 and yes also voyager

    • @bflaminio
      @bflaminio 23 дні тому

      "I gave up on the MCU circa 2008" -- the MCU only started in 2008; you didn't really give it much of a chance.

    • @arisaga822
      @arisaga822 23 дні тому

      @@bflaminio My timeline may be off a bit, I’m old.

  • @rfletch62
    @rfletch62 23 дні тому

    It's like running into a old childhood friend, and finding out they run a car theft ring, the same one that stole your own car 3 years ago.

  • @jameshiggins.openworld
    @jameshiggins.openworld 23 дні тому +2

    It’s just going to get worse. The best thing to happen to doctor who is someone to buy the franchise and reboot it totally

  • @ArrowValley
    @ArrowValley 23 дні тому +20

    People may accept homosexuality but most of those do not want to actually see it.
    That will never change no matter how much it’s forced.

  • @69jonhill
    @69jonhill 23 дні тому +61

    Dr.Who is no longer a timelord, Dr.Who is a gaylord now. I turned off long ago, but this crow barring in of homosexual propaganda is disgusting. It's a kids' show for Christ sake.

    • @jitblues
      @jitblues 23 дні тому

      Defile everything with perversity.

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому

      And that is exactly the demographic they want to catch... The younger the better to start the gr00m!ing. Take that as you will.

    • @DeltaMikeTorrevieja
      @DeltaMikeTorrevieja 22 дні тому +1

      He isn't a Gay Time Lord, he's a Timid Gay Lord.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому +1

      @@DeltaMikeTorrevieja I haven't been watching, but I hear he cries a lot. And I've heard more than one person remark that Gatwa makes a better female Doctor than Whittaker ever did. (no offense, ladies!)

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 23 дні тому

    Is the darkness within the hearts of the people in control forcing them to throw their darkness out everywhere.

  • @tumarfa
    @tumarfa 22 дні тому +4

    No, I disagree. They're not trying to make it a niche show for the so-called "progressive" and "highly educated". I think it's in fact meant for a general audience every single time they take over a franchise. They really think that they can "re-educate" the masses by doing this. Why else go after established franchises? They could just make something new if it was purely meant for "the avantgarde" among us.

  • @AchtungEnglander
    @AchtungEnglander 23 дні тому +9

    It's past anger. Its reached apathy.
    People are simply doing / watching / focusing on other things.

  • @catbert2412
    @catbert2412 23 дні тому

    Makes me wonder was the “bigeneration” them symbolically showing the removal of everything good from the doctor?

  • @Will-ei6eu
    @Will-ei6eu 18 днів тому

    There's not even a corpse anymore. They're just pounding the ground where the corpse used to be with dust flying up.

  • @alaricgoldkuhl155
    @alaricgoldkuhl155 23 дні тому +4

    Doctor Who was never overtly sexual in any way. While we all may have speculated about what went on behind the doors of the TARDIS between episodes, it was not shown on screen.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому +1

      The Classic series' last producer John Nathan-Turner-- who was a homosexual, by the way-- had a rule: "No hanky-panky in the TARDIS." 🙂

    • @alaricgoldkuhl155
      @alaricgoldkuhl155 20 днів тому +1

      @@MaskedMan66 Exactly! Plus it's police box. Not a closet.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 19 днів тому

      @@alaricgoldkuhl155 There ya go!

  • @riogrande5761
    @riogrande5761 23 дні тому +3

    Thanks. You just confirmed what most of us knew what would be happening now and forevermore. No thanks. Not watching - no way. I will admit I have never been a Dr. Who fan. To this Star Trek fan, Dr. Who always seemed "hokey" but I could at least watch it in the past with my wife or family member who were fans. It seems now a days, forcing "THE MESSAGE" on viewers is more important than making money or getting ratings. It would be total Karma if DIsney went broke over their love affair with forcing the message. My feelings are the world will continue to be increasingly corrupt until almighty God decides "enough" and intervenes.

  • @RandomTChance
    @RandomTChance 23 дні тому +1

    Not the Who I knew...
    🤢🤷‍♂️🤢

  • @ShanghaiRooster
    @ShanghaiRooster 23 дні тому +1

    Even the 7 days +4 screens ratings for the previous episode have tanked, at just 3.38 million. Sylvester McCoy was getting more viewers on the night when the BBC has placed Doctor Who opposite Coronation Street as a deliberate ploy to destroy the show.

  • @Cyborg1101
    @Cyborg1101 23 дні тому +11

    Oh, just cancel already. How much debt is Hollywood gonna take
    😂
    🍿

    • @MarcoAntonio-if1kd
      @MarcoAntonio-if1kd 23 дні тому

      This slop is payed by UK citizens tax money... Never gonna end, unless the citizens refuse to pay taxes.

  • @loslobos786
    @loslobos786 23 дні тому +6

    As a Whovian I have fifty plus years of classic Who to watch, I won't be watching this. Slow Clap to the activists who destroyed their own show congratulations when your show finally ends we Whovians won't remember you in a week. Hartnell was the first Doctor Capaldi was the last.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 21 день тому

      Classic Who comprises twenty-seven years.

    • @loslobos786
      @loslobos786 21 день тому

      @@MaskedMan66 considering the Show became something else a completely different show abandoning its central premise of a Nerdy Guy traveling through Space and Time with Beautiful Women when Whittaker took over. I count everything before this as Classic Dr Who now. That's forty so years of television fifty if you count all the spin off movies like Invasion Earth with Peter Cushing.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 20 днів тому

      @@loslobos786 The Doctor was never a "nerdy guy" until Tennant and Smith played him. ;-) Before that, he was an eccentric.
      I didn't make up the terms. It's Classic Who for the 1963 - 1989 series and all that accompanied it (including the two Cushing movies, the three stage plays, and the telefilm), and NuWho for everything (for better and for worse) from 2005 on. I didn't invent the distinction, and, in the words of Dickens, "my unhallowed hand shall not disturb it." 🙂

    • @loslobos786
      @loslobos786 20 днів тому

      @@MaskedMan66 The Doctor was never a Nerdy Guy until Tennant and Smith LOL. Tell me you never watched Dr Who before New Who without telling me you never watched Dr Who before New Who.
      Saying the Doctor was Eccentric and not a Nerd is like saying a German Shepherd is a Dog but a Pug is not, they are the same thing one is simply ok with the title while the other is still embarrassed it can't breathe properly.
      Lastly if RTD and his ILK can come into an existing franchise with an already existing fan base and utterly pervert and destroy it for a political and social agenda. Then I can cut them off at the knees and refuse to acknowledge their Perversion at its beginnings. As Tolkien so eloquently put it “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good." As I have said before and will say again Hartnell was the first Doctor Capaldi was the last, everything after is not Doctor who, it's something else... and it sucks.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 19 днів тому

      @@loslobos786 I don't understand your challenge. The first DW I watched on T.V. was "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" on PBS in the late '70s's.

  • @richardherrington1975
    @richardherrington1975 18 днів тому

    When will they figure out we don't want "The Message"

  • @arioch2112
    @arioch2112 23 дні тому +1

    Given how things have been the last few years, EVERY MONTH has been pride month. YEESH!

  • @sammi5281
    @sammi5281 23 дні тому +13

    go Woke go Broke...or get cancelled....Never gets old

  • @OfficialSusanWojcicki
    @OfficialSusanWojcicki 23 дні тому +17

    My father was a drug addict. When I was a baby, my parents separated because my deadbeat father had become a junkie, taking on heroin. This left my mother to raise me on her own. when I was in my late twenties, I had found out at some point he had quit, however had contracted HIV from sharing needles- which ended up killing him. My mother warned me from a young age to never do drugs, and to promise to be a better man then my father was. Now, at the age of 37, I can say without any doubt that I have never even considered to try drugs, including heroin. I am a little regretful of this however, as although I never touched a dirty needle, Russel T Davies and Ncuti Gatwa gave me aids anyways.

    • @Keyven_
      @Keyven_ 23 дні тому +7

      I was wondering where this was going and what in the world it had to do with Doctor Who, but you got me in the end lol 😂. My condolences to your health.

    • @WallyPyneoil
      @WallyPyneoil 23 дні тому

      'Deadbeat'? A drug addict? Do we call women who are drug addicts 'deadbeats'? You have internalised misandry.

    • @codyw1
      @codyw1 23 дні тому

      lols

  • @Scripture-Man
    @Scripture-Man 23 дні тому

    I actually complained to the BBC about this one.

  • @rallan1953
    @rallan1953 22 дні тому

    Don't think Disney+ can afford executive virtue signalling any more.

  • @trey1941able
    @trey1941able 23 дні тому +3

    THE MESSAGE