Dont forget to reduce 1-2 years when they mention their age. Korean age system calculate newborn baby as 1 y.o, then add another 1 year after new year. Another note. The creator try to put the differences between " a usual KPOP" with BTS. So when she put the clips regarding the normal KPOP system, she will also put BTS clips doing the opposite to show the differences 💜
That’s so confusing! We appreciate you guys reminding us so we can view their ages accurately. It only makes them all even more impressive 🥰💜💜💜💜🦖 Thank youuuu!!!! 💜💜💜💜
@@septasoareousrex one way to look at it is not their “ages”, but their “years”. When they’re born, they’re experiencing their first year, hence their age is one. When the new year comes, they’re experiencing their second year, so their age is two. That’s how I’ve come to see it, and it makes a lot of sense in my brain.
@@septasoareousrex I struggled with figuring out ages until I heard someone explain it like this: for Hobi and Yoongi, subtract 1 year from what age they say they are to get their international age, and for everyone else subtract 2. Since Hobi’s birthday is in February and Yoongi’s is in March, for the majority of the year, that will be correct. Everyone else’s birthdays are towards the end of the year, and since everyone turns a year older on Jan 1st, that means they have the additional extra year-of-age for most of the calendar year (which is why Tae was considered 2 years old as a 2 DAY old infant). It’ll obvs change depending on what month it currently is, but as a rough guide, I found that super helpful!
_"They'll do well, that's what I believe. They're different from other kids. They have good manners and are all smart. Really, I think they'll do well, and they should."_ Bless this aunt. I'm glad that there were people who believed in them when the rest of the world didn't.
When I first heard that I got emotional because that proves how genuine they were right from the start, and they still are. Any artist who works with them always has nothing but positive things to say about them and that’s so rare. They were raised right😁💜
Part of the reason why Jin had a bit of trouble being away from his family was because he was the youngest in his family. In BTS, however, he was the oldest. Because of their culture in Korea, being the oldest puts a lot of pressure on Jin, although he rarely acts like the oldest. Older or more experienced people are expected to guide, protect, and care for their younger group or team mates in a lot of ways. When someone is being introduced to someone that they will be working with in the future, the initial introduction is usually concluded with "Please take care of me." It's also expected that the oldest or highest ranked in a group will pay for everyone else's meals when they have a team meeting in a restaurant. There are other aspects of the position as oldest, but these are a few of the expectations. Jin wasn't used to being the oldest. It was quite a change going from being the one taken care of to being the one who is supposed to take care of everyone else. Jin didn't ignore those responsibilities and expectations, but he wasn't really strict about that aspect of the group dynamic, either. The guys frequently joke that he acts like the group's youngest a lot of times.
funny thing.. when suga said they were filming and a fan asked where because she wanted to bring food for them, that actually happened, the fans rented a boat and came out to the island were they where filming. they still remember that now but they don't tell where they are going anymore🤣can you imagine
WHAAAAT?!?! That’s amazing!!!!! 😄😂 can you imagine how cool that fan feels now?!?!?! Definitely understand why they can’t do that anymore 😂🤣 there isn’t an island big enough for that many fans anyway!!! Thank you for watching! And thank you for joining the conversation!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖BORAHAE!!💜💜🦖
"Korea" is a rich culture that has existed for more than 5 thousands years. There have been several dynasty changes but our last, Joseon Dynasty, lasted for 500 years (1392-1897) before it was annexed by the japanese starting from the late 1800s. Sandwiched between two very ruthless and war mongering nations, china and japan, we have had to endure and survive hundreds of invasions (they took turns, the current and sudden Russian invasion of Ukraine is an example of what Korea had to overcome hundreds of times over). While these two engaged in warfare, we were a peaceful nation that put education as a priority and ultimately is what has brought us to this point today. Unlike other wealthy nations, in our long history, we have never invaded nor stolen from another (this includes North Korea). the criminal japanese occupation lasted for 40 devastating years and officially between 1910-1945. Many around the world do not know about these decades of carnage where our land and people were raped, murdered and stolen from. After liberation (japan became delusional and attempted to invade the US at Pearl Harbour, two atomic bombs were finally dropped and Korea was liberated). Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. The Americans, Chinese and the Russians decided to play their war games on our soil which they called the Korean War. This basically killed and obliterated what little the japanese did not destroy or steal. We became one of the poorest nations in the world. After a few years of more carnage, Korea started their decades fight for democracy. The criminal japanese occupation and geo-political war may have set us back for 40 years, but due to our relentless will not to be vanquished but to overcome, we have risen from the ashes to become the 10th largest economy in the world. Please learn more about our rich culture and never disappointing history of survival. fun fact: the world's oldest extant book is the "Jikji" (1377 Goryeo Dynasty), a Korean book printed on a Korean invention (moveable metal-type print press). The Jikji precedes the oldest western book, Gutenberg Bible, by 75 years. (UNESCO)
Thank you so very much for taking the time to share this history with us. That is so very interesting and makes us eager to learn more. It’s incredible to think of everything Korea has gone through and how they have persevered and maintained their culture. Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! We appreciate you so much! Sending you lots of love from America💜💜💜💜💜🦖
I'm proud of you guys for overcoming such adversity in the face of what must have been seen almost as a lost cause. You overcame it all with hard work, blood, sweat and tears. You'll are very strong people.
About people seeing kpop stars as "gods and goddesses" and about bts seeming genuine- bts actually is the first kpop group to connect with fans like that through social media, kpop groups didnt do that before, they went on korean variety shows, but since bts wasnt invited cause they were small they connected with fans through vlogs on youtube, twitter, created their own variety show, etc and now all groups seeing bts success in it do the same, so its now preferable for fans to see groups not superior but relatable
Obviously it was a smart move for them to adapt their marketing style after BTS having so much success. Relating to your favorite artists is just a better way to build a fan base💜 We are so glad they decided to make these vlogs as we are loving getting to know them better and seeing their journey! Thank you for watching!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
One thing that rise of bangtan shows is that BTS took a different direction then other groups. The company gave them more freedom and they wrote and still writing their own lyrics. I absolutely love the rise of bangtan. It's getting better and BETTER with each chapter. I hope you will react to chapter 2 any time soon :)
Yes!!! We are loving it and we are only excited for Chapter 2!!!! 💜💜💜🎉 We love getting a peek behind the scenes into their lives and their creative process💜😄🥳 it’s so cool!!! Thank you for watching! We are glad you joined the conversation 😄💜💜💜🦖
The company actually never forced them on strict diet but Jimin did the one meal in 10 days diet in 2015 to lose his chubby face. But now they are all eating well and are going to gym and bulking up
At the time the whole log thing was a unique thing to BTS as they had no connections so they took to UA-cam and their online fan cafe to connect with people. This along with the BANGTANG BOMBS 💣 (aka their behind the scene clips) was a very rare and uncommon thing in Kpop, but nowadays it’s very common to see. I definitely agree with the point you guys made about the comment on Kpop idols being like “gods so high above you that you can’t help but worship them;” you know a part of what made BTS special is that they felt so real and in a sense relatable (as they were just young scared kids trying to figure out life and do what they love) and we got to see their humanity (humanness/relatability) through such video’s. BTS has always been honest and real throughout their career about their journey; they not only have shared with us the happier times they have experienced they have also been honest and transparent about the hardships and internal struggles they have faced both as a group and as individuals. In regards to the whole comment about beauty standards in Korea and the Kpop industry, they can go for both girls and boys. Koreans are “expected” to have nice slim bodies, pale skin, double eyelids, noses with a high nose bridge, a sharp jawline, etc. You might even hear instances where agencies encourage both male and female trainees to get plastic surgery, lighten their skin, etc., to “make themselves look better” and “appeal to the general public.” Jimin in particular has talked about his bad relationship with food, admitting that he would work out constantly (an unhealthy amount) and would only eat like an apple every couple of days (Note: upon debuting the Korean general public aka the k-netizens -who are sometimes harsh and very judgmental at times, as they unrealistically expect idols to be perfect from head to toe 24/7- would often say Jimin was fat as he had a round face and chubby cheeks, and as one can assume that got to him). Nowadays though he seems to be healthy and in a better mindset prioritizing his health over anything else. I agree again with what you said about the whole thing about not justifying the terrible things that go on in Kpop (BTS have in the past expressed some of the problems found within the Kpop industry, and in fact, most recently addressed the fact that the industry doesn’t allow people to grow and develop in their Festa dinner video this year); However, I also think it is quite harmful to cling onto such titles like “the dark side of Kpop” which can contribute to this bad and sometimes harmful stereotype about Kpop when the subject isn’t as one-dimensional and shouldn’t be simplified into only one title as the western media has been doing for the last couple of years. The second episode dives into this concept a little more, so I won’t spoil it too much for you. Excited for you to watch this series as it’s a great one! I look forward to seeing you learn more about the boys! P.S. sorry for any typos or grammar mistakes 😂 The number of times I have edited this comment is unreal... I keep finding so many typos 🥲 and or adding more info to it 🙃
You definitely got it! This series is showing how different BTS is to other groups. We don't feel like they are above us, they feel like normal people like us that have achieved great things and inspire us and encourage to do the same as well with our lives/dreams.
what's interesting about the first few chapters of this series is that they take a look at kpop and how it works in order to show some similarities but also all of the ways in which bts diverts from kpop - for example, they talk about people worshipping idols and listening to kpop for the catchy music - but bts is known to be down to earth and as a group who has always promoted being on the same ground as the fans, and also for making artistic music, not necessarily just catchy but with great values in it. also, they showed clips of kpop idols getting overworked by their companies, and the cut-throat atmosphere, and then straight after, a clip of bang pd - the ceo of bighit - saying he never put mandatory high worktime limits for them while working - bts have always just been workaholics and perfectionists themselves from day one - they still are in a sense, even with all their success. another noticeable difference is the dieting - idols talking about rough diet limitations set by the company and then you have clips of bts eating well at that grandma's restaurant and eating watermelon in the middle of practice (they did diet but most of the diets were self imposed by themselves as well because of the pressure they felt)... so yeah, pay attention to all the differences: sometimes they will show clips of kpop idols doing something and then bts doing the opposite back to back for the effect too. bts were the ones to popularize vlogs in the industry. they were also the ones to popularize making their own shows (though bts needed to back then because regular shows mistreated them or didn't invite them, idols today just do it for more promo). a big thing bts also brought in was companies trying to market more idols as self-made musicians and down to earth people than ever before, because they all want the "next bts" and saw that genuineness can work (though these people now just push it so...) - as you could see in the beginning, most idols were and some still are marketed as superhuman or above us peasants.
Yes! The contrasts are very interesting to see. We think their freedom to work as they wanted to created more powerful art. And it really helped them grow as musicians and artists💜💜💜💜 Love to see it and we are so excited to see more!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🎉🥳🦖 Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! 💜💜💜💜🦖
the part where the guy said western sports teams also use a similar training system/weighing system i dont think he was trying to justify it/say it is okay, i think he was more pointing out the fact that it is not only korea that does this, as the kpop training system is often called out and thought to be a huge corrupt system different from the rest of the world
Agreed, he was saying it's not different than what is done elsewhere in a variety of contexts, so it's not fair to call it out as a phenomenon unique to kpop.
Yeah everytime i see this party i wanna tell people, have you actually seen what goes on behind the scenes in American performing at schools like Juilliard? Or any serious ballet school for that matter? The torture these kids put themselves into and the sacrifice is really crazy and probably with even less guarantee of success after finishing it if they didn’t get picked up by any of the major dance companies. At least in kpop agencies, if you do finish, you are guaranteed to be promoted by the company that already trained you.
Thank you for adding the context there. It is definitely a worldwide system used in sports, dance, and modeling, etc. We agree that it is not just present in KPop. Septa kept thinking of it as more like a boot camp. Where they tear you down so they can rebuild you starting at the basics and growing from there. It can be very effective, but it is hard to watch it happen. 😭We just want artists, athletes, and performers to be treated with more kindness all around in these situations💜💜💜💜💜💜💜Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! We appreciate your insights!!! 💜💜🦖 BORAHAE!💜💜💜🦖
11:43 “just like awesome friends “…that’s exactly how armys feel. BTS makes us feel like we’re all friends, and not just fans.They’ve been very consistent with the way they treat armys. They give us fan songs and free songs on soundcloud every now and then but mostly during Festa or BTS anniversary. Last Festa, Jungkook uploaded on yt a song he made for armys caled My You. They also talk to us via VLive and even give us advices. They’re the sweetest and kindest and humble human beings. You can truly feel their sincerity with every word they say and everything they do.
I love the song MY YOU. That is the song he started to write from ARMY's comments on his birthday in 2021. Jk shared with us on his last VLive that he had to change a lot of the lyrics because his agency said there could be legal issues. Probably since ARMY's words were used. Anyway, the finished song is beautiful, I love it so much. 💜
They are so thoughtful and caring!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜😭 absolutely beautiful souls💜💜💜 we will have to check out the song! Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! We appreciate you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖 BORAHAE!!💜💜🦖
So for Korean age you are considered 1 when you are born and then everyone turns a year older on New Years. So take V for example, he was born December 30, 1995 so 2 days later on January 1, 1996 he turned 2 years old but was really only 2 days old. So when they state their ages they are actually 1-2 years younger in international age. BTS international ages when they debuted Jin- 20, Suga- 20, J-Hope 19, RM- 18, Jimin- 17, V- 17, Jungkook 15.
since i am not a kpop fan i only like BTS, it´s hard to know how other kpop fans feel about their idols. but i can´t imagine it goes deeper than what we feel about BTS. we think of them as close friends or family instead of icons. you will never turn your back on a friend or child. but you will stop liking idols over time. i think that´s why bts are so popular compared to others. so if anyone know how it feels being fans of others please let me know
Basically it feels like having a favorite character in a tv show because of how much they feed people's fantasies. The best way to describe it is by just using the word "vibe" when it comes to picking who you do or don't want to follow; a lot of other Kpop artists have a good "vibe" but not necessarily a *genuine* one, because of how much other companies can pressure them, so the audience may not notice what they're specifically feeling but they loose interest eventually because it is subconciously strenuous to follow the journey of someone who is stressed out or tired. Being a Kpop artist is truly just a job for a lot of them, but there are very few times where singular members (or even just unpopular bands) genuinely *enjoy* what they are doing like our boys do. They, a lot of the time, don't have a sense of loyalty to each other that isn't connected with the poor artist feeling some kind of obligation to act a certain way, mostly out of fear that people won't like them or that they'll be kicked out of their group. The best examples of other Kpop artists who give me the same feeling of genuine love for themselves and their work would be HyunA, Dawn, Bang Chan(Stray Kids), Jackson(Got7), Jisoo(Balckpink), Changbin(Stray Kids), ATEEZ, Han(Stray Kids), SOMI, Mamamoo, AleXa(the only artist I stan as much as BTS), Xuimin(EXO), Soobin(TXT) and PSY(obviously). Keep in mind the I am not an avid follower of many of these people, but these are the people that have never felt like they are nervous with being awkward on camera or standing up for themselves if they believe in something; they are also the ones who seem (to me) like the most genuinely kind people as well.
Multistan here. It does feel that way for most of my groups, it feels like being a good friend. The flip side of that, though, when you're a multi, is that it balances out your attention on each group and you back off from obsessive behaviour. Just my experience.
@@erinraecowin I'm only truly a fan of BTS, but I don't believe it's ever been obsessive. I tend to think of people who become obsessive about other people as having a screw loose. So~ those sort of people even if they're like you, a multi, could probably become obsessed with someone. Cause it's their brain that's unbalanced, they can't balance their attention, lol.
While I understand why you would assume that, especially since it’s probably more true with some groups than others, I can assure you many other groups also connect like that with their fans. Especially nowadays, and maybe that is due to the influence of bts and companies finally being convinced that letting their artists be genuine works. But I’m not a huge fan of this attitude of dismissing the talent and authenticity of other groups, especially because it reminds me of how other fandoms treated bts before they got big
The freedom that BTS had with their music was unique to them because other kpop groups are controlled by their labels when it comes to producing and releasing music. The vlogs are also unique to them that's why fans feel connected in a personal way with them. I don't know if you missed but their CEO mentioned he did not put mandatory practices or rules with BTS like other companies did with their trainees since he gives importance to artistic freedom
Yes! We think because he did this he actually gave them the freedom to be artists and create something one of a kind. That is how they caught lightning in a bottle. And it is SO COOL to watch how it all happened 🥳💜💜💜 Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! 💜💜💜💜🦖
The fact that you're artists yourselves makes me think you understand them at a deeper level even if you are coming from a different background and culture. I would be interested in a video explaining what young new artists go through these days. Yes 💜
We are so glad to hear that!!! We are excited to make a video breaking it all down and then looking at the differences in other music industries and time frames💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 thank you so much for watching!!!! We are so glad to have you here Suzannah!!! 💜💜💜🦖
@@septasoareousrex In a later episode, you can see Seo Taiji and BTS behind the scenes as well as peformance at his 25th Annivesary concert together. He said in many interviews that he views BTS as his successors.
Funny coz 'feeling protective of them' is what made me realize I am turning into ARMY. I was in denial at first too because I didn't want to admit that I've fallen for their charm. 😏 One time, I defended BTS unconsciously from someone who bad-mouthed them. I was taken aback by my reaction too. 😅 Now, I am no longer shy to tell the world that I love them. Why would I?
They just made themselves at home in our hearts so fast!!! 🤣😂 It’s a testament to their beautiful souls💜 thank you for joining the premiere solitarymeowmy!!! We love talking to you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
This is a great series! Aneesa (the creator of The Rise of Bangtan) shared that she has been working on this series (her labor of love) for over 3 years! She is taking viewer on a journey step-by-step from BTS' perspective not looking back on their days but living through them (with them). She edits their content to allow BTS to speak their thoughts, through their experiences at the time because BTS has been documenting themselves since BEFORE their debut, so there is A LOT of material to edit down to tell their story! She also gives an overview of the KPop history for those who are not familiar with the industry. She uses clips from different video clips of other idols/ journalists interviews to try to give a broader perspective of the industry. Her skill as a professional video editor really shines through. Amazing work! I think many ARMY really like this series (besides it being extremely well made), she doesn't try to interpret what "she thinks" BTS is trying to say, she just shows the viewers exactly what they said and shared about what their thoughts were at the time. She is an "OG" KPop fan and BTS fan since pre-debut! She also shared that BTS has been the light in her darkness for many years now. *(Cr: "FY" on yt)* I think it's important to notice the differences between BTS' worries and the other trainees worries. BTS' were worried about their own personal skills (not dancing well enough, song worries, etc), about not getting attention when they debut due to their small company, not having money, etc. While the other trainees seem to be living in fear of being cut from the company at any moment if they make one mistake, worrying about weight quotas, etc. BTS stayed until late hours because they WANTED to, while the other trainees HAD to. Obviously BTS had things they had to do too, they could've not made it to debut as Jimin almost did due to short training, but instead of using that as a fear to hold over them Bighit seemed to use it to encourage them to work harder and improve themselves. BTS were allowed to make mistakes without worrying they'd be thrown out of the company. I'm very glad that they all signed with Bighit, and that Bighit has caused a shift in the Kpop industry, lots of newer companies are giving their groups more freedom and treating them better due to BTS' success. These companies see that idols don't need to be punished and forced to do things in order to succeed, BTS are proof that freedom and happiness should be the most important thing. *(Cr: "Shannon" on yt)* Now plz understand this 1st episode shows two sides, one is typical k-pop system and how the labels/industry work, whereas subtle hints of BTS and bighit being contradictory different is shown, BTS is different from other K-pop groups and BigHit is different from other idol music companies. These first few episodes can be misleading because it makes you think BTS management follows these guidelines the other idol members from other companies are talking about, but BTS and BigHit don't do those things. Notice how when it is said idols don't have a lot of creative freedom, you see Namjoon and Yoongi writing lyrics, or when it says idols have phone bans or something, you see the BTS members on their phones, or how when idols say they aren't allowed to go outside the dorm, you see Yoongi walking around freely. It can be a confusing thing for new ARMY to make note of, but PLEASE notice these differences. It is vital to how BigHit runs differently, and therefore why BTS is so different from other idol groups from the very start. *(Cr: "Kayla Kulik" on yt)*
Very well explanation. I wish you can copy and paste this into every video reactions for this 1st chapter 😁💜 oh and please add explanation bout korean age system also please
@@indri2137 i do try to copy paste it under almost every rise of bangtan chapter 1 reaction..and sure, I'll definitely add info about age system into it next time 😊
well explained, fellow Army. BTS and Big Hit was différent since the pre début. Bang Si-Hyuk , when he created Big Hit, openly stated he didn't like the system that the Idol industry had created and he wanted to do better. So BH let the boys have control over music, express their opinions, allowed them to talk about issues that many in SK society wouldn't, like mental health, school pressure, disparity in societal classes and so on. This mindset, added to the lack of fund and connections, made them an anomaly in the Kpop Industry. They succeed without any help , and against the system witch try to destroy them. They created another way to be successfull, and the most unusual codependant relationship between a group, a compagny and a fandom that had ever exist : Bangtan, Big Hit and Army, like a family. The most incredible underdog success story of the whole musical industry !
Jungkook was only 13 (15 when they debuted) when he joined Big Hit and started training. He had to leave his family in Busan to train in Seoul. So naturally at that age, he always felt homesick and missed his mom and family a lot.
One of the things that attracted me more of kpop was the personality of the idols. That we as fans had a lot more content and shows where we see them play and everything but BTS really took that to another level. While an idol is meant to be that, an idol, and still have this unreachable image, BTS feels like my friends who happen to be artist. There is always and should be limitations on how much they share about their personal lives but in all they share and say you can feel their honesty and realness. That's why we care for them as people before anything else.
They are so genuine and thoughtful. We are glad they chose to be relatable instead of unreachable. We are happy to support these amazing men💜 Thank you for watching! We appreciate you!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
I was late to the premiere so I stayed out of the chat, but I have so many thing I want to say. First you 2 are so cute and supportive of each other, I love it. Second the Kpop industry is very competitive, but Korean society is the same way so there are expectations that are a bit more harsh in the public eye. Cancel culture here is lax in comparison, when that guy says these idols are worshiped they basically have to live perfect lives, one tiny mistake could ruin a career. Management companies have a large hold on how their artists live so the brand could be protected. Bang Sihyuk said he didn't put heavy restrictions on the BTS members but there were some- they had talked about hiding food from their managers, and of course they had schedules for practice they had to stick to, and many things kept them from having time off to see their families. BTS seemed to not have it as bad as groups from other companies but they made sure they put in the work and effort that was necessary and they still do. There was a former BTS trainee who was doing an interview not too long ago, he said early on RM spoke to all the trainees, because they didn't know who would eventually make the team they shouldn't compete with each other but instead help eachother. I think that was a good foundation for the bond that the members have now.
Links of the actual and a summarized clip for those interested: ua-cam.com/video/fExTH7N_Ziw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Vpxvu-pkIe8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/gvKCcazPgZQ/v-deo.html
Jessica!!!!! Hello!!! We missed you during the premiere!!! 💜💜💜💜💜😄💜😄 Glad to see you in the comments💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Thank you so much for the beautiful compliment😄🥳🎉💜💜 we appreciate you!!! Oohhh!!! That is super interesting! I think that was an amazing decision on their part. Starting it as a team from the very beginning built a brotherhood of trust. They are so smart and thoughtful. We continue to be impressed every time! We are glad you enjoyed the video and we hope you are having a wonderful day! 💜💜💜💜💜💜 BORAHAE!!!! 💜💜💜🦖
The beauty of this series is it is not simply an all wine and roses tribute to BTS but a bona fide documentary with many contextual touchpoints. It doesn't just show BTS but makes you think. I love that the film does not here nor in future episodes skimp on tackling controversial issues. It is a riveting journey.
Soare, to your point about not feeling BTS as being 'so far above' their fans - you're absolutely right. RM has even addressed this in his comments during a concert back in 2017. He told ARMYs that as they've watched BTS grow internationally, ARMY may see themselves as being led by BTS 'up the mountain' of popularity....but RM said that he and the other members, instead, see ARMY holding hands *with* BTS and *walking up the mountain together*. I thought that was really beautiful and highlighted exactly why we all almost feel like a part of the group, partners in their journey, instead of just fans watching idols from far away
Thank you so much for sharing this!! This actually brought tears to Septa’s eyes. This is so beautiful and a huge testament to how amazing these men are💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜😭💜💜💜 Thank you Amy!!!! 💜💜BORAHAE! 💜💜🦖
I really love your takes on those videos and listening you guys talking, you can realize you’re actually absorbing and reacting and not “robotically” reacting (which can be boring) it’s very easy and entertaining to watch your videos, even more related of something I am passionate about 💜
Awe!! Thank youuu! We are so glad you enjoy them!!!😃💜💜💜💜 We are having so much fun! We are glad that it shows! Thank you for watching!😃 We appreciate you!!💜💜🦖 BORAHAE 💜💜💜
I really love how you guys are really absorbing this documentary… like fine wine that you let linger in your mouth. Keep it up guys! I just really love your take on things and life as it relates to what the boys have been through.
Awe! YAY! We are so glad you are enjoying it! She did an amazing job making these videos so that makes it very easy and enjoyable to watch. We are excited to see more! 🎉🥳 Thank you so much for your kind words! We are so glad to have you here with us!!! 💜💜💜💜💜BORAHAE!!!💜💜💜💜🦖
I want to say that they show a lot of other companies and groups...but you have to know that BTS and big hit are different! Yes they had to do a lot like others but they were treated a lot better and thats why they love their company!
It's interesting that you are latching onto RM and Suga's dynamic first since they were the first two people casted into BTS so that duo has been together the longest. There are so many good duos and trios within the group. I feel like you can put any of them in a room together and get a totally different energy and fun dynamic. This series really is well done. I'm glad you're doing reactions to it. BTW you have the cutest dog ever. I'm allergic but I'd risk it all to pet that cutie pie.
Yes! We can't wait to see the other dynamics as well! 😃💜 LOLOLOL!!! YOU MADE US LAUGH SO HARD! SOARE is allergic to cats and just risked it all to pet one yesterday that was begging for his love!!🤣💜 She would love your sacrifice 🤣 she loves attention 🤣💜💜💜 Thank you for watching! We appreciate you!!!! BORAHAE!!!! 💜💜💜💜🦖
Other groups started posting on UA-cam and Twitter right after BTS’s success to replicate them. They’re honestly the underdog to undefeated champion story of kpop
everytime i see the part where they talk about “the dark side of kpop” i kinda feel it’s a bit unfair singling them out because have you actually seen what goes on behind the scenes in American performing at schools like Juilliard? Or any serious ballet school for that matter? The torture these kids put themselves into and the sacrifice is really crazy and probably with even less guarantee of success after finishing it if they didn’t get picked up by any of the major dance companies. At least in kpop agencies, if you do finish, you are guaranteed a chance at a career and would to be promoted by the company that already trained you.
Yes! We will refrain from using that term in the future. It is a universal tactic for athletes, performers, musicians, etc. and we do not want it to seem like we are singling out KPop. 💜💜💜💜💜
@@septasoareousrex thank you for understanding. But i really couldn’t blame you guys or anyone who’s new to the kpop scene because it’s pretty much the general narrative about kpop that’s been popularized in the west especially during its early years
The whole point of showing the strict side of kpop industry here is only to show how Bang PD treated BTS differently. Please don't get confused regarding the editing because some people misinterpret it . Bang Pd wanted to change the system so although initially BTS had some rules, he gave them waaaay more freedom than any other agency ever did at the time which is one of the reasons why BTS grew into a group like no other!
Exactly! That comment (around 14minutes) about celebrities being so far above you and worshiping them…I don’t feel that way about BTS. Like you said, they are more like friends to root for. They have always lead with their sincerity and authenticity which is what connected them so closely with their fans. Instead of always trying to seem perfect and keep an air of mystery like some other celebrities/idols, they let people in as much as they can to see them as real people.
the video blogs were kinda unique to them! they definitely were the most influential group to do that type of promoting and let's say it's also cause they had to, they didn't have the media help as other groups so they thought doing those videos would help them, and obviously, it worked, and indeed to this day you can see how other groups try to use that strategic cause the saw how it worked with bts, but its really a bts thing, I would say, it was part of what made them unique and therefore their story.
Just vlogging isn't the magic with BTS, it's that they were so honest and open with their fans, and that really made a difference. I don't see other groups opening up and being so honest with their fans. I don't think other agencies would allow that level of honesty, even though we know there are a lot of things that BTS couldn't talk about, and still don't to this day. What they do share with us is always genuine and sincere.
This series is absolutely incredible. And it gets better and better and better. It'll give you SO much insight into their story. And the good thing is that you'll get SO many tastes of dif songs from all the different eras as the series go on. You can keep notes of stuff you like and want to check out. I think it's not so much spoilers as it is little tastes. Highly HIGHLY recommend keeping going with this series and then checking out songs you like that you hear as you go. It'll be a great organic way to discover them 🥰
Kpop training systems have a lot of systemic issues, not necessarily better or worse than the western music industries, just very different. The vlogs/blogs were fairly unique to BTS at the time, these days a lot of idols do livestreams. I remember the editor of TROB Aneesa did mention she wanted to contrast the typical idol (presenting as perfect, high above you) at the time vs BTS who were literally very real likeable young men (country bumpkins according another Korean person who watched this). Aneesa’s storytelling gets better as the episodes continue actually and you’ll see what she wants to get across clearer too, it’s really cool. Big Hit/Bangtan had their share of body image struggles back then too, you’ll see more of it I think. We never truly see everything that goes on behind the scenes, but I’m sure there was a lot of pressure to look a certain way. We know for a fact that there was definitely media/public criticism about their looks esp during early days of their career. And hints of it even within the company. But it’s also a Korean society thing, not only a kpop idol thing. It’s something that definitely deserves a conversation. Looking forward to you guys watching more episodes. It’s kind of cool to have something like this from a not official source. Aneesa has done such an amazing job. The bbygang channel has a bunch of video essays on kpop history, discussions and rebuttals to the dark side of kpop, bts vs kpop etc if you’re ever interested. I really enjoyed those and Elliot actually does & often cites research for his videos.
Thank you so much Jean!! We agree! She did such a good job with this chapter and we are excited to watch the others! We will have to look into bbygang! We are learning so much as we go and this is what we love. Thank you for sharing with us! We really appreciate it and it makes for an amazing conversation😄💜 BORAHAE! 💜💜💜🦖
Fyi Jin was 22 korean age so 20 international age! Just as a rule of hand count -2 when they say their age.. they usually mean their Korean age (when you are born you are 1 and you add 1 for the new year as well)
If i'm not mistaken, at that era, not much idol using vlog dairies as their engagement platform. Its due to their lack of resources, they cant promote themself on television like other kpop idol. But now, many idol do that things. Fun fact, all BTS members are go to university. They all have finished their undergraduate program (JK was graduated early this year), and now all members (except JK) are postgraduate students. I really really recommend you to reacts Run BTS variety show. Its very hilarious. We can see every member unique character.
they are so humble and genuine were in we feel like they are not different from us..they are someone we can be friend with despite being BTS..one of the reason why ARMY loves them.
These personal vlogs started a grassroots fan following that grew organically into the BTSARMY of today. It really is fundamentally about the members and who they are as individuals and as BTS. If you think about it - all this content was only released in Korean and international ARMYs had to wait for KARMYs to translate for us. So the fact that every year since debut they grew exponentially is a miracle. I joined the fandom in 2018 when BTS was already global but still using fan cafe - so I had to wait days for their content to be translated . The fact that we the BTSARMY are so invested is because of these 7 precious individuals and the incredible content they create as individuals artists and as Bangtan Sonyeondon 💜
I love our 7 guys so so much. And I'm so happy they're doing what they need and want now. They are still 7 but 7 INDIVIDUALS and this solidifies it. I'm so excited for them
I haven't really watched this series myself so idk when they include it or not, they also released music before debut like lots of covers and even unofficial sort of music videos and even original stuff like sampling beats and adding their own lyric and stuff so that was also how people got to know them and like them and these blogs as well .they also interacted and posted on twitter...idk about other k-pop groups but this was definitely not common practice..and i don't think most or if any had Twitter accounts coz lots of groups started to make Twitter accounts very recently (in like 2017 and stuff for many) So the Twitter interactions were definitely kinda unique to BTS as far as i know..they posted about tidbits from their daily life and interacted with people and it was really funny too like i look at those sometimes and it was hilarious..they were just very likable
The reason these groups also got Twitter in the year of 2017 is because BTS won the BBMAs of top social artist in 2017 which was about Twitter engagement, without BTS winning this award, most of these groups wouldn't have a Twitter account. It's especially interesting because a lot of these groups debuted years before, some even before BTS and still also got their first Twitter accounts only in 2017. The top 10 social artists went from BTS at N1 and others being Justin Bieber, Ariana grande, lady gaga etc in 2017 to BTS at N1 and a whole kpop industry lineup changing in the entire top 10. BTS top social artist is what paved the way for kpop's social media use.
@@-amel-9896 Oh i know..i was there for it all.Just wanted to keep it short and to the point😂 But I'm not sure if not a single one didn't coz a few might have so i said most just in case
They were so smart to use social media. They built their fan base globally right out of the gate and created something beautiful. We are so excited to watch it happen in these chapters!!! Thank you for filling us in on the Twitter of it all! That’s so cool!!! Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! We appreciate you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜BORAHAE!!!💜💜💜🦖
OMG Soare's comment on your laugh Septa was sooo darn cute!!! It made me smile so wide and squeal because it was so adorable! I think you have a great laugh by the way!
Looking forward to your next Rise of Bangtan video reactions. I love hearing your thoughts about them. I've already watched the series up to the most current and now it'll feel like I'm watching it for the first time again. Baby Army here, literally just began loving them early this year. 💜💜💜💜💜
feel like rewatching the rise of bangtan & will do it with you 💜💜 still find it such a miracle for the 7 boys be able to stay so close for years! so many things can went the other way & not worked...Still blow my mind too how humble they are with no sign of arrogance at all! Think about it - Suga RM were good in rapping /music production, but they had to accept Hobi the 3rd member who's an amazing dancer. They must felt their pride being stepped on when they were told they are no longer just a hip hop group but had to get their dancing skill up to Hobi's level.... yet we we can see is pure love, acceptance & pride of all the boys. Vice versa, Hobi didn't see him as better because he can dance, he was just so keen to learn rapping. JK got 7 agencies recognized his potentials but he never bragged about it, but continued to admire & learn from the others. Jin being the eldest yet never once used his authority over the youngers. Tae said in an interview he thought he's dream was just be a trainee not any more, yet he didn't stop but just kept growing. Jimin's a top student & great contemporary dancer yet had never satisfied of his work but always praise the members first... How much more humbleness we can get from 7 young boys
yea i'm a kpop fans since 2004 and one of the reasons i love bts so much not like any other band i stan is bcs they don't feel like those 'god and goddess' but like a best friend, a close friend like something that finally filled the missing part. they're different~
you reacting to this series and diving into the bts rabbit hole really makes me happy! thank you for being open to discovering bts and their music. i love your honest commentaries so i’m looking forward to more videos with the following episodes. i’m really excited to follow your journey to falling in love with bts and being attached to them, i can already see the signs this early because i see how you adore their real personalities. regarding the topic of vlogging and trying to build a fanbase through social media before debut, it has definitely been kinda like a strategy for idols and companies especially these past few years. but during bts’ generation, that strategy is not really that widely used(? is that the right term?lol). most of the groups and companies at that time relied mostly on mainstream media to promote there artists that’s why most of the groups that are successful during bts’ early years are groups that are from big companies. because only big companies have the capacity and influence/ clout with the mainstream media companies. since bts and big hit don’t have that, they used social media to show the members’ personalities and build that real connection with the fans through constantly communicating with them. their vlogging/ filming behind the scenes are also on another level compared to other groups back then. they show so much of their lives off stage, their work process or just their personal life in general. this is also i think the reason why people really connect to them, there’s so much that we know about them, about their days, their stories, so much to talk about because there’s so much content to watch. in my opinion, bts really are the ones that changed the game with their effective use of social media. (this is also the reason why they receive hate from the big mainstream media companies and labels) nowadays, since bts has proved how much that “strategy” worked for them, more companies and idols try to make use of social media and posting vlogs/content to build their fanbase.
And honestly, the way other companies and Idols have been doing this in the last few years feels like a weak imitation of what BTS did. It feels like they are just trying to copy them hoping for the same results but they are forgetting the key ingredient was authenticity.
Thank you so much!!!! 😭💜😭💜 we are so glad you enjoy our videos! We appreciate it so much!!! We are both very glad to have you on this journey with us!💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Okay! That is so cool! They flipped the script on the industry as it was and showed them a new way to be successful. They are all geniuses really. So smart and genuine! 💜😄 of course they would all try to copy them now😂 I just hope they give their artists the creative freedom to speak their minds and create something that will speak to as many people as BTS has been able to reach with their music. They are really one of a kind though!!! So who knows if it will ever happen again. We are just glad we get to be a part of it and watch them make this world a better place 💜 Thank you for watching! And joining the conversation!! We appreciate you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜BORAHAE!! 💜💜🦖
They all have university degrees, mostly in broadcasting and entertainment related fields. But mainly through remote learning, so yeah, missed out on the campus experience. Jin couldn't attend his own graduation so the guys got him flowers and cake. That's the best they could do with a packed schedule. Small, but meaningful acknowledgment.
Some dynamics was a big change for members. Jin and Suga were the babies of their families and all of a sudden they are now the older brothers to five siblings. JHope was given responsibility of the dance line. Namjoon is the middle child of the group and he was their leader. Jimin was the elder of the maknae line but had the least amount of training. V was hidden so he couldn't tell anyone he was actually debuting. Jungkook was the youngest but was main singer and center. It was a lot for them. Also remember with the ages you are hearing take off at least one to two years. International age when they debuted: Jin was 20, Suga was 20, JHope was 19, RM was 18, Jimin was 17, V was 17 and JK was 15. When Jungkook was sad after graduating it was because he missed his mom and dad. He was the baby of his family so he had never been separated from them.
What I liked more from BTS is that they never changed, the way they talk with and about ARMY, it's still the same. Like i dont know any other artist that constantly talk to their fans, have a little chat, responds to posts, celebrates with fans online. The beauty of technology, they make it so easy for artists to interacts with fans. They are so big so i dont see why other artists arw too busy to even reply to one post about them. They arw consistent. So theove from fans too never change. Thwy may lose some fans but along the way they attract more and more. Thwy're amazing. The way they are as an individual and group.. Just amazing.
From my perspective, you two also are so REAL and genuine. It makes you both so interesting and engaging. You two share that “personal availability”, that vulnerability, which make BTS so inviting. I’m definitely here for the long run - as I’ve said before! (I get to repeat myself because I’m old. 😂🤣😋) Jerri, 73/35 in Sweden
Thank you for the beautiful compliment!!! We love having you here and hope to continue making you feel that way 💜🥹😄 Sending you our love as always!!!! BORAHAE!!!! 💜💜💜💜🦖
I will say, as harsh as trainee and idol life is, I do think it's slowly but surely getting better as time goes on. I feel like on average, idols and trainees are treated far better now than they were a decade ago. The biggest improvement imo has been companies putting more of a focus on maintaining the mental health of their idols
28:34 This... i know it in the back of my head but still when someone just tells you that it's ok you are not alone that reassurance is what people need to hear more these days you know, we all don't realize that we are all in this together and we have to do what we gotta do!
One thing Jin didn't mention here(and I haven't watched it for myself), is that while he's trying to figure out how to take care of himself, he's now the eldest brother to 6 others that he needs to care for as well. While he was the youngest in his family, so yes he was the one being cared for.
If you think even actors or athletics... how much are there those who work hard, practis endlessly, take allkinds of lessons, training themself, give up "normal life" - starting very young age - and never break through? Not just kpop world and sadly that "dark side" is allso everywhere in this planet, not only music industry but really everywhere - theatre, movies, police, armys, firefigters, sport, normal workplace - just name it... hope this world could be better place some day 💜. Greetings from the edge of Europe
please note that when the guys say their ages they are stating their korean age not international age. They are younger by 1 to 2 years in international age.
i always thought it was ironic that being from such a small company, having limited exposure bc of big hit's lack of influence/money/pull, forced bts to find other avenues to connect. add that they connected in personal ways, showing who they were genuinely in vlogs and in the music itself, this was all part of the happenstance that would create such a dedicated and vast fan base. there doesn't seem to be many other that put so much meaning and artistry within the music, making you think and feel about topics beyond the screaming admiration of boy band
Exactly! It seemed like a disadvantage for them at first but really it was what unlocked their full potential and encouraged them to be their genuine selves💜💜💜💜 so happy to see it all unfold😃 Thank you for watching!! We appreciate you!!!💜💜💜 BORAHAE!💜💜💜🦖
I'll always say this even if bts stop releasing music and keep doing just reality shows and stuff I will still keep being a fan because them as people just their words and everything is comforting
I totally recommend reacting to: - The Most Beautiful Life Goes On: A Story of BTS (2022 Update!) By: Rice Squad The reason I suggest this other introduction is because it briefly talks about the members, but then goes into their albums! It'll also give you a feel for some more of their songs! As for songs, I totally recommend these MVs: -Dope -Fire (They play dope at the beginning of the mv) -Mic Drop (Steve Aoki Remix) -Boy with Luv (Ft. Halsey) And if you feel up for a gut-wrenching but famous BTS song, Spring Day/Spring day explanation by Italian ARMY 💜💜💜
BTS is humble, loved and respected but what I think makes them different from all these all Kpop groups, is their die hard dedication to their craft. They are the only group who took the chance to address all their issues in their time of upcoming. Topics that other groups would never touch. Truth about youth, depression, social injustice, self love, anti bullying, etc... I believe this may be the reason why our boys have so many haters. When you dare to take this risk of talking about these sensitive topics, comes with alot of negative feedback. Yet, it's the truth where some can relate and would make them stan them for their voice that others can not put out but support since it is only natural to support others who can be a voice for them. The talent and bravery these guys have is amazing, especially in their younger years! How impressive, how young and mature they were... so innocent, goofy and fun but so focused on their craft, it's amazing!!
You two are just sooo cute together💜💜Love to watch you share your thoughts and being so soft about them. I can totally relate to that. Love you guys~ Have a great day.
These vlogs and behind the scenes (documentary) were not really a common thing but now it is pretty normal to see other groups (mainly their companies) doing it
But some people who are not going to agree with me but K-pop is not a genre of music just like you would not say American pop you would not say Korean pop ! K-pop is a concept and an industry that was created in South Korea during the early 1990s! And at the age of 22 JIN was actually a late bloomer he knew nothing about singing or dancing he was becoming a actor that was his goal in the beginning before he joined BTS! You have to start out early like as a trainee around 12 and 13 ! there’s a difference in ages we have an international age which is the age that we recognize here in the western countries such as Canada ,United States and Europe but in South Korea there is what you call the Korean age and that is the difference! The differences here nine months you spend in the womb when you are born that is considered one year of age. when you are born either in the end month such as December the following year the new year will make you actually two years older. BTS ‘s V ( Kim TaeHyung) is born December 30, 1995, February is the actual new year for South Koreans, Japanese and most Asian countries recognize that even though the United States and other Western countries recognize January 1 to be the new year. Because V was born December 30 he would turn actually two years older than the western or international age. There has been talks and discussions to eliminate the Korean standard age?! The different concepts of cultural differences also will be displayed through your journey as you go through the” rise of Bangtan series. I myself have already gone through all the series and the person who actually put this all together she is also ARMY and her editing and putting together this series was just pure genius and I have not really seen too many informational videos about BTS and the K-pop industry that would compare! 💜🙏🏼
oh you’re watching rise of bangtan!!!! yayyy im so happy :D tyty hope you’re both healthy and happy ~ take your time and enjoy getting to know our tannies
I’m so glad you are doing this series! During my spring break (I’m a math teacher), I watched all the episodes plus the deleted and extra ones. I’m excited to go through these again with you guys. There are different generation K-pop bands. I’m partial to 2nd and 3rd. I like Shinee and Mamamoo, but there are so many! BTS’s journey is so different than most other K-pop groups especially from the Big 3. I think Aneesa did a great job showing the difference and how BTS overcame so many obstacles. 💜
We are so excited! We understand how you marathoned through all of them in your Spring Break! She did such a good job putting this together and we are excited to see it all!!! 💜💜💜💜 Loving their journey and just them in general🤣💜💜💜💜 Awwweeee!!! Thank you for the beautiful compliment!!!! 😭💜💜😭💜💜 You are too sweet Yukari Bromfield!!! We are just glad to have you here with us! 💜 BORAHAE!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖
Thank you both so much for this reaction!! Septa, you have a great laugh!😊 Also, I recently made a new friend that laughs when she feels awkward or unsure of what she’s saying and her bias is RM too! Lol, so cute!!💜
Since BTS didn't have the influence and power because they came from a small company, so they weren't invited on TV shows, interviews and all that stuff that was like a huge promotion and the main way to do it at that time and if they did, they were treated badly. That's why BigHit started sharing their own content and created their own reality shows. Other idols from big companies appeared on these shows all the time but now since they saw the impact that BTS had and the approach with their fans, they also started releasing this type of content. I would say the majority of the 3rd and 4th generation of kpop groups now have their own type of reality show tho Sorry if my English bad Can't wait to watch the rest of this Docu-series with you guys 💜
11:34 it sure if it’s super clear right away to newer army but what you just said right here is 100% the point of why they’re showing you how people view K-pop idols and kinda the way the industry runs and what they are trying to build into these groups…. But they’re also showing you how BTS doesn’t fit any of the things that they’re saying about what makes someone a K-pop idol… the mentality with BTS was never the same as their K-pop industry and the way that it is ran…. It’s why they’re showing you these things once you kinda get a vibe from BTS is bc what you just said right here is the entire point…. The things they’re saying about their almost perfect version of a K-pop idol is very different from BTS and how they even grew their career… but you’re spot on here!
I have never heard a point of view such as yours, reacting to Rise of Bangtan, especially the thing about trainee that is being couch and train by the agency... many if other reactor thinks that's kind of hard and harsh to dismissed and make all this kids gone through a lot of training and not guarantee debut, but you said that you wish record label in America willing to put in the work like those agency in South Korea....thank you for reacting this series....love you guys
Glad you enjoy our opinions! Training is very strenuous and difficult to watch but when it comes to physically strenuous work it is a necessity. 💜 We love you!!!💜💜💜💜💜 BORAHAE 💜💜💜🦖
ahh this series is so emotional !! at the end you will want to bangtan to reach the sky and you will have glimpse of their music throught the years... so excited and also your reactions on point love hearing you guys.
hi guys, this documentary is made by an ARMY, she didn't put copyright in all of the series. So you'll free to play all of those songs. Pls don't mute it. I've seen many reactors of TROB and they didn't mute any of the songs bcos it doesn't have copyright issues at all. thank you!
To be honest the kpop industry formula works up to a certain point. The difference between sports and kpop and the music Industry, is kpop realies on creative processes to create music, dance and content. Creativity needs to have open space and flow. Constricting your creativity to much, you kill it! Listening to your reaction kind of makes me wonder if this is part of the reason many groups only last for a couple of years. 🤔
hmm, I’d say it’s only a small part of the reason why. since many idol groups often aren’t intimately involved in their creative processes, I wouldn’t say that creative burnout is a big cause of disbandment. a lot of music production and writing is outsourced to different producers and composers. I’d say the major cause of disbandment for many groups is either there’ll be members who want to branch off solo or to other parts of the entertainment industry (acting, etc) or its just complete exhaustion from their insanely busy lives as idols. by the time that 7 year contract comes to an end, most groups have either already passed their golden age of popularity and are on the road to irrelevancy or members of the group are too exhausted from the lifestyle to want to carry on. you also see cases where a group will disband after their contract ends and individual members will move into agencies that give them the creative freedom that they actually need to continue pursuing a career in the music industry. companies themselves will also choose to disband certain groups if they’re not raking in enough profit. but yes, the idol industry just does not allow creativity to flow, the idol system itself is a recipe for creative burnout. namjoon talks about this in their recent festa dinner as well
@@doraaaa0613 Very true. Many groups that do last longer than their 7 year contract is very rare. Not to mention for male idols having military mandatory service too! I'm glad Namjoon was brought this up at their Festa! 😊 Thank you for your input. 🙏🏽
@@smatias83 yep yep, military enlistment as well is a big factor for male idol groups. yes, it’s incredibly rare! honestly, BTS are such a rare case in the idol industry. and I’m confident they’ll keep going for many more years ^_^ I’m glad it was brought up too, imo the industry is in need of an overhaul and massive changes in its structure. it does some things right but is not a feasible way for artists to live.
@@veronicadeor There are a lot groups that debut each year. I believe in 2012 or 2013, the music shows actually had to make an announcement that they were capping how many groups were debuting each week to 100 groups. There were so many groups trying to debut that the music shows did not have any space for them. Many of the smaller companies complained because they knew their groups would not be able to get spot since the bigger companies at that time had more influence.
i love your bts reactions, i have been following since you started your bangtan journey. funny you mentioned the "no cover" show, as my son's band is on the first season. it was filmed about a year and a half ago btw. anyway, it does suck how much you need to be established in order to get any interest from labels. i will tell you since my son's band started, they have had many offers but they've been abysmal, because they don't have a huge social media following. how are you supposed to get that when no one knows you? you have to be good and lucky at sm, and when you're 5 REALLY young (now only 4 ) kids in school who just want to make music, it's a harsh reality to face and work that has to be done - instagram, tiktoks, facebook daily... but i also understand that the industry is different now. you don't need a label to make and release music, and companies don't make money like they used to, so to invest so much money up front into a band is risky. anyway, wonder if you can guess which band they are? :) they've also grown so much in over a year, being so young and talented. looking forward to watching more RoB episodes with you two. it is such a well done series and let's you see bangtan's story from their own words, pretty much as it happened.
Thank you so much! We're really happy that you like our reactions and it's really interesting that your son was part of that show! Would your son possibly be part of Scarlet View? 🤔 We wish him and his band immense success and happiness! It's a hard industry to be in but as long as passion for the music is there, it will show 😁😁
@@septasoareousrex he’s in the youngest band on the show, slaves to humanity (horrible name, i know, but stuck with it for many reasons). he, along with the singer and drummer, just graduated high school last month. thanks for the well wishes, and i return them to you ☺️💜
The rise of Bangtan is such a well made docuseries! When BTS started it was not common for other Kpop idols to film log like this but since they were from a small company who had no connection in the industry they filmed logs like that to connect with fans! I think in a way it really helped them especially with gaining a huge international fan base. Before BTS I've tried to listen to other kpop group and I might like a few songs here and there I just feel a genuine connection when I listen to BTS. The fact that Big Hit wants BTS to just be themselves instead of being perfect looking all the time is definitely a very different concept at that time for K pop idol!
I'm not really sure about vlogs but I think there aren't many idols who have done that. But BTS is the only group who started making their own music themselves during training time and also they released those musics even at that time before their debut. I think that was the same too about their vlogs but not sure 💜
I don't know how many times I have watched each chapter but I will definitely watch each chapter again with you. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and commentaries during the video. Thank you for being respectful and genuine.
Hope you guys react to the recent FESTA 2022 dinner party! 😊 They shared alot of what they've been honestly feeling for the past year here makes me want to hug them 🥲 (it's an hour long talk when they just sit down and talk about their year)
Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. Love this series as well. So glad u watched this. Interesting 1st ep though. This looks like its not the current ep. It's different than the one i watched. Hmm. I loved the dairies and music. The info about Korea and the training. Most of the members spent 2-3 years together training as you saw mentioned in the doc. Jimin spent 6-8 months only training before debut. Yet, they love him dearly. They would not be BTS without all the members u know. This is a great doc. I love learning new info about BTS. Borahae! -2019 ARMY NY USA 💜
11:22 the thing with this first episode is that you get an intro to the kpop industry and to BTS and just like you say, BTS does not feel high above you, they are not gods you worship, they are humble and genuine. So this is not all how BTS have had it, it is meant to show you how different BTS have had it compared to other idols but also meant to show you what the general kpop industry is like and big companies vs Bang PD's as he said not mainstream company and at 39:12 after black pink and others have told horror stories about forced practice and weight loss at their companies you hear how Bang did not force mandatory practice even, he just wanted genuine stories in the lyrics. BTS talk about how they stay up writing and diet too but it's their choice. Most of BTS stay up all night whether they have stuff to do or not. BTS was not with Black Pink or anyone else you see in this ep. It is just meant to go back and forth between to show the difference. I'm gonna keep watching and you probably will get it BUT later you really see the difference between BTS and the kpop industry, the difference between other idols and BTS in how they do things and the difference between BTS/Bang PD's company Big Hit (Hybe) and the other companys. Bang PD had a whole different philosophy. And in the beginning when talking about idols being like gods etc. they also said that you get into the whole k-culture and beauty etc, but BTS fans are often not into kpop or everything korean. We like BTS for their music and their personalities. I hope and believe you probably will get it later but so many have watched this and thought it shows that BTS had it so I just wanted to point it out before I forget. :)
Korean age system you count every year. So your first year in life is your 1, on January 1st you get one more. Like just think of it as how many different year calendars you would have on your wall if you kept them all since you were born. Your age changes on jan 1st not on your birthday. This makes the age they say be 1-2 years more than their international age. Jin said he was 22 in the start of 2013 but he is born in dec 1992 so his international age was 20 and he was turning 21 in december that year. RM said he was 20 but he was 18 and turning 19 in September. 1992 Jin 1993 SUGA 1994 j-hope 1994 RM 1995 Jimin 1995 V (Tae) 1997 JK (Jungkook)
Hi, Just want to let ya'll know that, Chapter 2 of BTS which is the start of their solo project. Please support and give love to their individual Music career. Starting with Jhope, Jhope will be releasing his solo album in July 15 in all music platform but this Friday, JULY 1st, 1pm KST, he will be releasing his first single "MORE" please look out and give love and support. The teaser MV for "more" is out now! he will also be at lollapalooza in Sunday, July 31. Please do look out for BTS new chapter! thank you!
Dont forget to reduce 1-2 years when they mention their age. Korean age system calculate newborn baby as 1 y.o, then add another 1 year after new year. Another note. The creator try to put the differences between " a usual KPOP" with BTS. So when she put the clips regarding the normal KPOP system, she will also put BTS clips doing the opposite to show the differences 💜
Ikr?! That's so clever of her. Many don't get that reference.
Exactly! For example Taehyung (V) who was born on December 30th, when he was two days old, in the korean age system he was already 2 years old.
That’s so confusing! We appreciate you guys reminding us so we can view their ages accurately. It only makes them all even more impressive 🥰💜💜💜💜🦖
Thank youuuu!!!! 💜💜💜💜
@@septasoareousrex one way to look at it is not their “ages”, but their “years”. When they’re born, they’re experiencing their first year, hence their age is one. When the new year comes, they’re experiencing their second year, so their age is two. That’s how I’ve come to see it, and it makes a lot of sense in my brain.
@@septasoareousrex I struggled with figuring out ages until I heard someone explain it like this: for Hobi and Yoongi, subtract 1 year from what age they say they are to get their international age, and for everyone else subtract 2. Since Hobi’s birthday is in February and Yoongi’s is in March, for the majority of the year, that will be correct. Everyone else’s birthdays are towards the end of the year, and since everyone turns a year older on Jan 1st, that means they have the additional extra year-of-age for most of the calendar year (which is why Tae was considered 2 years old as a 2 DAY old infant). It’ll obvs change depending on what month it currently is, but as a rough guide, I found that super helpful!
_"They'll do well, that's what I believe. They're different from other kids. They have good manners and are all smart. Really, I think they'll do well, and they should."_
Bless this aunt. I'm glad that there were people who believed in them when the rest of the world didn't.
She is so sweet!!!! 💜💜💜💜 she definitely saw what everyone else got to see eventually💜💜💜💜🦖
@@septasoareousrex and that auntie is still supporting bts until now
When I first heard that I got emotional because that proves how genuine they were right from the start, and they still are. Any artist who works with them always has nothing but positive things to say about them and that’s so rare. They were raised right😁💜
She still has her restaurant and it’s full of BTS merch
@@septasoareousrex yes. Army visits her cafe/restaurant often. It's really a special place now.
Part of the reason why Jin had a bit of trouble being away from his family was because he was the youngest in his family. In BTS, however, he was the oldest. Because of their culture in Korea, being the oldest puts a lot of pressure on Jin, although he rarely acts like the oldest. Older or more experienced people are expected to guide, protect, and care for their younger group or team mates in a lot of ways. When someone is being introduced to someone that they will be working with in the future, the initial introduction is usually concluded with "Please take care of me." It's also expected that the oldest or highest ranked in a group will pay for everyone else's meals when they have a team meeting in a restaurant. There are other aspects of the position as oldest, but these are a few of the expectations. Jin wasn't used to being the oldest. It was quite a change going from being the one taken care of to being the one who is supposed to take care of everyone else. Jin didn't ignore those responsibilities and expectations, but he wasn't really strict about that aspect of the group dynamic, either. The guys frequently joke that he acts like the group's youngest a lot of times.
funny thing.. when suga said they were filming and a fan asked where because she wanted to bring food for them, that actually happened, the fans rented a boat and came out to the island were they where filming. they still remember that now but they don't tell where they are going anymore🤣can you imagine
WHAAAAT?!?! That’s amazing!!!!! 😄😂 can you imagine how cool that fan feels now?!?!?!
Definitely understand why they can’t do that anymore 😂🤣 there isn’t an island big enough for that many fans anyway!!!
Thank you for watching! And thank you for joining the conversation!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖BORAHAE!!💜💜🦖
@@septasoareousrex Yes there is. It’s called Australia. 😆
@@timothywest1183 ARMY miiiiiight fit in Australia. Could be a tight squeeze. Lol
@@TheMamamarieke Army would shrink while there as everything in Australia seems to want to kill you! 😂
"Korea" is a rich culture that has existed for more than 5 thousands years. There have been several dynasty changes but our last, Joseon Dynasty, lasted for 500 years (1392-1897) before it was annexed by the japanese starting from the late 1800s. Sandwiched between two very ruthless and war mongering nations, china and japan, we have had to endure and survive hundreds of invasions (they took turns, the current and sudden Russian invasion of Ukraine is an example of what Korea had to overcome hundreds of times over). While these two engaged in warfare, we were a peaceful nation that put education as a priority and ultimately is what has brought us to this point today. Unlike other wealthy nations, in our long history, we have never invaded nor stolen from another (this includes North Korea).
the criminal japanese occupation lasted for 40 devastating years and officially between 1910-1945. Many around the world do not know about these decades of carnage where our land and people were raped, murdered and stolen from. After liberation (japan became delusional and attempted to invade the US at Pearl Harbour, two atomic bombs were finally dropped and Korea was liberated). Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. The Americans, Chinese and the Russians decided to play their war games on our soil which they called the Korean War. This basically killed and obliterated what little the japanese did not destroy or steal. We became one of the poorest nations in the world. After a few years of more carnage, Korea started their decades fight for democracy. The criminal japanese occupation and geo-political war may have set us back for 40 years, but due to our relentless will not to be vanquished but to overcome, we have risen from the ashes to become the 10th largest economy in the world. Please learn more about our rich culture and never disappointing history of survival.
fun fact: the world's oldest extant book is the "Jikji" (1377 Goryeo Dynasty), a Korean book printed on a Korean invention (moveable metal-type print press). The Jikji precedes the oldest western book, Gutenberg Bible, by 75 years. (UNESCO)
Thank you so very much for taking the time to share this history with us. That is so very interesting and makes us eager to learn more. It’s incredible to think of everything Korea has gone through and how they have persevered and maintained their culture.
Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! We appreciate you so much! Sending you lots of love from America💜💜💜💜💜🦖
I'm proud of you guys for overcoming such adversity in the face of what must have been seen almost as a lost cause. You overcame it all with hard work, blood, sweat and tears. You'll are very strong people.
Wow, thank you for sharing all of this. I felt the emotion and strength behind your words.
About people seeing kpop stars as "gods and goddesses" and about bts seeming genuine- bts actually is the first kpop group to connect with fans like that through social media, kpop groups didnt do that before, they went on korean variety shows, but since bts wasnt invited cause they were small they connected with fans through vlogs on youtube, twitter, created their own variety show, etc and now all groups seeing bts success in it do the same, so its now preferable for fans to see groups not superior but relatable
Obviously it was a smart move for them to adapt their marketing style after BTS having so much success. Relating to your favorite artists is just a better way to build a fan base💜 We are so glad they decided to make these vlogs as we are loving getting to know them better and seeing their journey! Thank you for watching!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
Many started this series but only some people finish it it's so sad 😭
ikr 😭😭😭😭
@@giovanasoares4044 We are planning to go all the way through it, don't worry about that 💜💜😄😄
@@septasoareousrex that would be so cool. I look forward to rewatching it with you guys😄 I love your energy 💜
@@septasoareousrex wow thanku for that and last episodes were the best
One thing that rise of bangtan shows is that BTS took a different direction then other groups. The company gave them more freedom and they wrote and still writing their own lyrics. I absolutely love the rise of bangtan. It's getting better and BETTER with each chapter. I hope you will react to chapter 2 any time soon :)
Yes!!! We are loving it and we are only excited for Chapter 2!!!! 💜💜💜🎉
We love getting a peek behind the scenes into their lives and their creative process💜😄🥳 it’s so cool!!!
Thank you for watching! We are glad you joined the conversation 😄💜💜💜🦖
The company actually never forced them on strict diet but Jimin did the one meal in 10 days diet in 2015 to lose his chubby face. But now they are all eating well and are going to gym and bulking up
At the time the whole log thing was a unique thing to BTS as they had no connections so they took to UA-cam and their online fan cafe to connect with people. This along with the BANGTANG BOMBS 💣 (aka their behind the scene clips) was a very rare and uncommon thing in Kpop, but nowadays it’s very common to see.
I definitely agree with the point you guys made about the comment on Kpop idols being like “gods so high above you that you can’t help but worship them;” you know a part of what made BTS special is that they felt so real and in a sense relatable (as they were just young scared kids trying to figure out life and do what they love) and we got to see their humanity (humanness/relatability) through such video’s. BTS has always been honest and real throughout their career about their journey; they not only have shared with us the happier times they have experienced they have also been honest and transparent about the hardships and internal struggles they have faced both as a group and as individuals.
In regards to the whole comment about beauty standards in Korea and the Kpop industry, they can go for both girls and boys. Koreans are “expected” to have nice slim bodies, pale skin, double eyelids, noses with a high nose bridge, a sharp jawline, etc. You might even hear instances where agencies encourage both male and female trainees to get plastic surgery, lighten their skin, etc., to “make themselves look better” and “appeal to the general public.” Jimin in particular has talked about his bad relationship with food, admitting that he would work out constantly (an unhealthy amount) and would only eat like an apple every couple of days (Note: upon debuting the Korean general public aka the k-netizens -who are sometimes harsh and very judgmental at times, as they unrealistically expect idols to be perfect from head to toe 24/7- would often say Jimin was fat as he had a round face and chubby cheeks, and as one can assume that got to him). Nowadays though he seems to be healthy and in a better mindset prioritizing his health over anything else.
I agree again with what you said about the whole thing about not justifying the terrible things that go on in Kpop (BTS have in the past expressed some of the problems found within the Kpop industry, and in fact, most recently addressed the fact that the industry doesn’t allow people to grow and develop in their Festa dinner video this year); However, I also think it is quite harmful to cling onto such titles like “the dark side of Kpop” which can contribute to this bad and sometimes harmful stereotype about Kpop when the subject isn’t as one-dimensional and shouldn’t be simplified into only one title as the western media has been doing for the last couple of years. The second episode dives into this concept a little more, so I won’t spoil it too much for you.
Excited for you to watch this series as it’s a great one! I look forward to seeing you learn more about the boys!
P.S. sorry for any typos or grammar mistakes 😂
The number of times I have edited this comment is unreal... I keep finding so many typos 🥲 and or adding more info to it 🙃
The industry doesn't* allow
Loved your comment :) 💜
@@MariaClara_x lol yeah thanks for pointing that out I meant doesn’t… I fixed that typo 🙂
Yes. BTS were open when it comes to their flaws/weaknesses. That broke the 'PERFECT' Notions of Idols. They are one of a kind. 💯
Well said!
P.S. There are very few errors in your comment. I'd only suggest putting paragraph breaks in long comments - they make it easier to read.
@@goreyfantod5213 thank you for your suggestion… I edited my comment to make it into paragraphs 🙂💜👍✨
You definitely got it! This series is showing how different BTS is to other groups. We don't feel like they are above us, they feel like normal people like us that have achieved great things and inspire us and encourage to do the same as well with our lives/dreams.
It’s so cool that they can make so many people feel that way!!! We love it!! 💜💜💜 thank you for watching! BORAHAE!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
what's interesting about the first few chapters of this series is that they take a look at kpop and how it works in order to show some similarities but also all of the ways in which bts diverts from kpop - for example, they talk about people worshipping idols and listening to kpop for the catchy music - but bts is known to be down to earth and as a group who has always promoted being on the same ground as the fans, and also for making artistic music, not necessarily just catchy but with great values in it. also, they showed clips of kpop idols getting overworked by their companies, and the cut-throat atmosphere, and then straight after, a clip of bang pd - the ceo of bighit - saying he never put mandatory high worktime limits for them while working - bts have always just been workaholics and perfectionists themselves from day one - they still are in a sense, even with all their success. another noticeable difference is the dieting - idols talking about rough diet limitations set by the company and then you have clips of bts eating well at that grandma's restaurant and eating watermelon in the middle of practice (they did diet but most of the diets were self imposed by themselves as well because of the pressure they felt)... so yeah, pay attention to all the differences: sometimes they will show clips of kpop idols doing something and then bts doing the opposite back to back for the effect too.
bts were the ones to popularize vlogs in the industry. they were also the ones to popularize making their own shows (though bts needed to back then because regular shows mistreated them or didn't invite them, idols today just do it for more promo). a big thing bts also brought in was companies trying to market more idols as self-made musicians and down to earth people than ever before, because they all want the "next bts" and saw that genuineness can work (though these people now just push it so...) - as you could see in the beginning, most idols were and some still are marketed as superhuman or above us peasants.
Yes! The contrasts are very interesting to see. We think their freedom to work as they wanted to created more powerful art. And it really helped them grow as musicians and artists💜💜💜💜
Love to see it and we are so excited to see more!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🎉🥳🦖
Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! 💜💜💜💜🦖
Wow thank you for your comment. This is what exactly made BTS different from other
@@septasoareousrex BTS is now the blueprint for ultimate success for other kpop groups and idols because they did it differently
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the part where the guy said western sports teams also use a similar training system/weighing system i dont think he was trying to justify it/say it is okay, i think he was more pointing out the fact that it is not only korea that does this, as the kpop training system is often called out and thought to be a huge corrupt system different from the rest of the world
Agreed, he was saying it's not different than what is done elsewhere in a variety of contexts, so it's not fair to call it out as a phenomenon unique to kpop.
Yeah everytime i see this party i wanna tell people, have you actually seen what goes on behind the scenes in American performing at schools like Juilliard? Or any serious ballet school for that matter? The torture these kids put themselves into and the sacrifice is really crazy and probably with even less guarantee of success after finishing it if they didn’t get picked up by any of the major dance companies. At least in kpop agencies, if you do finish, you are guaranteed to be promoted by the company that already trained you.
Thank you for adding the context there. It is definitely a worldwide system used in sports, dance, and modeling, etc. We agree that it is not just present in KPop. Septa kept thinking of it as more like a boot camp. Where they tear you down so they can rebuild you starting at the basics and growing from there. It can be very effective, but it is hard to watch it happen. 😭We just want artists, athletes, and performers to be treated with more kindness all around in these situations💜💜💜💜💜💜💜Thank you for watching and joining the conversation! We appreciate your insights!!! 💜💜🦖
BORAHAE!💜💜💜🦖
11:43 “just like awesome friends “…that’s exactly how armys feel. BTS makes us feel like we’re all friends, and not just fans.They’ve been very consistent with the way they treat armys. They give us fan songs and free songs on soundcloud every now and then but mostly during Festa or BTS anniversary. Last Festa, Jungkook uploaded on yt a song he made for armys caled My You. They also talk to us via VLive and even give us advices. They’re the sweetest and kindest and humble human beings. You can truly feel their sincerity with every word they say and everything they do.
I love the song MY YOU. That is the song he started to write from ARMY's comments on his birthday in 2021. Jk shared with us on his last VLive that he had to change a lot of the lyrics because his agency said there could be legal issues. Probably since ARMY's words were used. Anyway, the finished song is beautiful, I love it so much. 💜
They are so thoughtful and caring!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜😭 absolutely beautiful souls💜💜💜 we will have to check out the song! Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! We appreciate you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖 BORAHAE!!💜💜🦖
Each chapter has bonus and deleted scenes. Except for Chapters 1 and 2 I think. Hopefully you will react to it too💜
Yes Of course!!!!!!! :D 💜
So for Korean age you are considered 1 when you are born and then everyone turns a year older on New Years. So take V for example, he was born December 30, 1995 so 2 days later on January 1, 1996 he turned 2 years old but was really only 2 days old. So when they state their ages they are actually 1-2 years younger in international age. BTS international ages when they debuted Jin- 20, Suga- 20, J-Hope 19, RM- 18, Jimin- 17, V- 17, Jungkook 15.
since i am not a kpop fan i only like BTS, it´s hard to know how other kpop fans feel about their idols. but i can´t imagine it goes deeper than what we feel about BTS. we think of them as close friends or family instead of icons. you will never turn your back on a friend or child. but you will stop liking idols over time. i think that´s why bts are so popular compared to others. so if anyone know how it feels being fans of others please let me know
Basically it feels like having a favorite character in a tv show because of how much they feed people's fantasies. The best way to describe it is by just using the word "vibe" when it comes to picking who you do or don't want to follow; a lot of other Kpop artists have a good "vibe" but not necessarily a *genuine* one, because of how much other companies can pressure them, so the audience may not notice what they're specifically feeling but they loose interest eventually because it is subconciously strenuous to follow the journey of someone who is stressed out or tired. Being a Kpop artist is truly just a job for a lot of them, but there are very few times where singular members (or even just unpopular bands) genuinely *enjoy* what they are doing like our boys do. They, a lot of the time, don't have a sense of loyalty to each other that isn't connected with the poor artist feeling some kind of obligation to act a certain way, mostly out of fear that people won't like them or that they'll be kicked out of their group. The best examples of other Kpop artists who give me the same feeling of genuine love for themselves and their work would be HyunA, Dawn, Bang Chan(Stray Kids), Jackson(Got7), Jisoo(Balckpink), Changbin(Stray Kids), ATEEZ, Han(Stray Kids), SOMI, Mamamoo, AleXa(the only artist I stan as much as BTS), Xuimin(EXO), Soobin(TXT) and PSY(obviously). Keep in mind the I am not an avid follower of many of these people, but these are the people that have never felt like they are nervous with being awkward on camera or standing up for themselves if they believe in something; they are also the ones who seem (to me) like the most genuinely kind people as well.
Multistan here. It does feel that way for most of my groups, it feels like being a good friend. The flip side of that, though, when you're a multi, is that it balances out your attention on each group and you back off from obsessive behaviour. Just my experience.
It's the same tbh
@@erinraecowin I'm only truly a fan of BTS, but I don't believe it's ever been obsessive. I tend to think of people who become obsessive about other people as having a screw loose. So~ those sort of people even if they're like you, a multi, could probably become obsessed with someone. Cause it's their brain that's unbalanced, they can't balance their attention, lol.
While I understand why you would assume that, especially since it’s probably more true with some groups than others, I can assure you many other groups also connect like that with their fans.
Especially nowadays, and maybe that is due to the influence of bts and companies finally being convinced that letting their artists be genuine works. But I’m not a huge fan of this attitude of dismissing the talent and authenticity of other groups, especially because it reminds me of how other fandoms treated bts before they got big
The freedom that BTS had with their music was unique to them because other kpop groups are controlled by their labels when it comes to producing and releasing music. The vlogs are also unique to them that's why fans feel connected in a personal way with them. I don't know if you missed but their CEO mentioned he did not put mandatory practices or rules with BTS like other companies did with their trainees since he gives importance to artistic freedom
Yes! We think because he did this he actually gave them the freedom to be artists and create something one of a kind. That is how they caught lightning in a bottle. And it is SO COOL to watch how it all happened 🥳💜💜💜
Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! 💜💜💜💜🦖
The fact that you're artists yourselves makes me think you understand them at a deeper level even if you are coming from a different background and culture. I would be interested in a video explaining what young new artists go through these days. Yes 💜
We are so glad to hear that!!! We are excited to make a video breaking it all down and then looking at the differences in other music industries and time frames💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 thank you so much for watching!!!! We are so glad to have you here Suzannah!!! 💜💜💜🦖
Hoping you guys will react to the music of the eras as the series progresses… excited for you to learn about our bangtannies💜💕✨
We definitely want to! There's a lot of stuff of theirs to react to and such little time! 😭😭
@@septasoareousrexTake your time guys… 🥰💜💜
@@septasoareousrex In a later episode, you can see Seo Taiji and BTS behind the scenes as well as peformance at his 25th Annivesary concert together. He said in many interviews that he views BTS as his successors.
@@fy3845 Seo Taiji and BTS have major respect for each other.
Funny coz 'feeling protective of them' is what made me realize I am turning into ARMY. I was in denial at first too because I didn't want to admit that I've fallen for their charm. 😏 One time, I defended BTS unconsciously from someone who bad-mouthed them. I was taken aback by my reaction too. 😅 Now, I am no longer shy to tell the world that I love them. Why would I?
That's how it happened to me. I was so proud of their achievements lol. It caught me off guard.
They just made themselves at home in our hearts so fast!!! 🤣😂 It’s a testament to their beautiful souls💜 thank you for joining the premiere solitarymeowmy!!! We love talking to you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🦖
This is a great series! Aneesa (the creator of The Rise of Bangtan) shared that she has been working on this series (her labor of love) for over 3 years! She is taking viewer on a journey step-by-step from BTS' perspective not looking back on their days but living through them (with them). She edits their content to allow BTS to speak their thoughts, through their experiences at the time because BTS has been documenting themselves since BEFORE their debut, so there is A LOT of material to edit down to tell their story! She also gives an overview of the KPop history for those who are not familiar with the industry. She uses clips from different video clips of other idols/ journalists interviews to try to give a broader perspective of the industry. Her skill as a professional video editor really shines through. Amazing work! I think many ARMY really like this series (besides it being extremely well made), she doesn't try to interpret what "she thinks" BTS is trying to say, she just shows the viewers exactly what they said and shared about what their thoughts were at the time. She is an "OG" KPop fan and BTS fan since pre-debut! She also shared that BTS has been the light in her darkness for many years now. *(Cr: "FY" on yt)*
I think it's important to notice the differences between BTS' worries and the other trainees worries. BTS' were worried about their own personal skills (not dancing well enough, song worries, etc), about not getting attention when they debut due to their small company, not having money, etc. While the other trainees seem to be living in fear of being cut from the company at any moment if they make one mistake, worrying about weight quotas, etc. BTS stayed until late hours because they WANTED to, while the other trainees HAD to. Obviously BTS had things they had to do too, they could've not made it to debut as Jimin almost did due to short training, but instead of using that as a fear to hold over them Bighit seemed to use it to encourage them to work harder and improve themselves. BTS were allowed to make mistakes without worrying they'd be thrown out of the company.
I'm very glad that they all signed with Bighit, and that Bighit has caused a shift in the Kpop industry, lots of newer companies are giving their groups more freedom and treating them better due to BTS' success. These companies see that idols don't need to be punished and forced to do things in order to succeed, BTS are proof that freedom and happiness should be the most important thing. *(Cr: "Shannon" on yt)*
Now plz understand this 1st episode shows two sides, one is typical k-pop system and how the labels/industry work, whereas subtle hints of BTS and bighit being contradictory different is shown, BTS is different from other K-pop groups and BigHit is different from other idol music companies. These first few episodes can be misleading because it makes you think BTS management follows these guidelines the other idol members from other companies are talking about, but BTS and BigHit don't do those things. Notice how when it is said idols don't have a lot of creative freedom, you see Namjoon and Yoongi writing lyrics, or when it says idols have phone bans or something, you see the BTS members on their phones, or how when idols say they aren't allowed to go outside the dorm, you see Yoongi walking around freely. It can be a confusing thing for new ARMY to make note of, but PLEASE notice these differences. It is vital to how BigHit runs differently, and therefore why BTS is so different from other idol groups from the very start. *(Cr: "Kayla Kulik" on yt)*
You said everything so well.👏🏻
@@aliceungureanu7713 thank you..i just do the work of spreading the info our other amazing fellow Armys hv shared.. it's all thanks to all of them🥰💜
Very well explanation. I wish you can copy and paste this into every video reactions for this 1st chapter 😁💜 oh and please add explanation bout korean age system also please
@@indri2137 i do try to copy paste it under almost every rise of bangtan chapter 1 reaction..and sure, I'll definitely add info about age system into it next time 😊
well explained, fellow Army. BTS and Big Hit was différent since the pre début. Bang Si-Hyuk , when he created Big Hit, openly stated he didn't like the system that the Idol industry had created and he wanted to do better. So BH let the boys have control over music, express their opinions, allowed them to talk about issues that many in SK society wouldn't, like mental health, school pressure, disparity in societal classes and so on. This mindset, added to the lack of fund and connections, made them an anomaly in the Kpop Industry. They succeed without any help , and against the system witch try to destroy them. They created another way to be successfull, and the most unusual codependant relationship between a group, a compagny and a fandom that had ever exist : Bangtan, Big Hit and Army, like a family. The most incredible underdog success story of the whole musical industry !
Jungkook was only 13 (15 when they debuted) when he joined Big Hit and started training. He had to leave his family in Busan to train in Seoul. So naturally at that age, he always felt homesick and missed his mom and family a lot.
One of the things that attracted me more of kpop was the personality of the idols. That we as fans had a lot more content and shows where we see them play and everything but BTS really took that to another level. While an idol is meant to be that, an idol, and still have this unreachable image, BTS feels like my friends who happen to be artist. There is always and should be limitations on how much they share about their personal lives but in all they share and say you can feel their honesty and realness. That's why we care for them as people before anything else.
They are so genuine and thoughtful. We are glad they chose to be relatable instead of unreachable. We are happy to support these amazing men💜
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I was late to the premiere so I stayed out of the chat, but I have so many thing I want to say.
First you 2 are so cute and supportive of each other, I love it.
Second the Kpop industry is very competitive, but Korean society is the same way so there are expectations that are a bit more harsh in the public eye. Cancel culture here is lax in comparison, when that guy says these idols are worshiped they basically have to live perfect lives, one tiny mistake could ruin a career. Management companies have a large hold on how their artists live so the brand could be protected.
Bang Sihyuk said he didn't put heavy restrictions on the BTS members but there were some- they had talked about hiding food from their managers, and of course they had schedules for practice they had to stick to, and many things kept them from having time off to see their families. BTS seemed to not have it as bad as groups from other companies but they made sure they put in the work and effort that was necessary and they still do.
There was a former BTS trainee who was doing an interview not too long ago, he said early on RM spoke to all the trainees, because they didn't know who would eventually make the team they shouldn't compete with each other but instead help eachother. I think that was a good foundation for the bond that the members have now.
Links of the actual and a summarized clip for those interested:
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Oohhh!!! That is super interesting! I think that was an amazing decision on their part. Starting it as a team from the very beginning built a brotherhood of trust. They are so smart and thoughtful. We continue to be impressed every time!
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The beauty of this series is it is not simply an all wine and roses tribute to BTS but a bona fide documentary with many contextual touchpoints. It doesn't just show BTS but makes you think. I love that the film does not here nor in future episodes skimp on tackling controversial issues. It is a riveting journey.
Soare, to your point about not feeling BTS as being 'so far above' their fans - you're absolutely right. RM has even addressed this in his comments during a concert back in 2017. He told ARMYs that as they've watched BTS grow internationally, ARMY may see themselves as being led by BTS 'up the mountain' of popularity....but RM said that he and the other members, instead, see ARMY holding hands *with* BTS and *walking up the mountain together*. I thought that was really beautiful and highlighted exactly why we all almost feel like a part of the group, partners in their journey, instead of just fans watching idols from far away
Thank you so much for sharing this!! This actually brought tears to Septa’s eyes. This is so beautiful and a huge testament to how amazing these men are💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜😭💜💜💜
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I really love your takes on those videos and listening you guys talking, you can realize you’re actually absorbing and reacting and not “robotically” reacting (which can be boring) it’s very easy and entertaining to watch your videos, even more related of something I am passionate about 💜
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I got goosebumps when Choi Siwan was talking about a new hallyu wave and the scenes of BTS were put in, they're making history.
I really love how you guys are really absorbing this documentary… like fine wine that you let linger in your mouth. Keep it up guys! I just really love your take on things and life as it relates to what the boys have been through.
Awe! YAY! We are so glad you are enjoying it! She did an amazing job making these videos so that makes it very easy and enjoyable to watch. We are excited to see more! 🎉🥳
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I want to say that they show a lot of other companies and groups...but you have to know that BTS and big hit are different! Yes they had to do a lot like others but they were treated a lot better and thats why they love their company!
It's interesting that you are latching onto RM and Suga's dynamic first since they were the first two people casted into BTS so that duo has been together the longest. There are so many good duos and trios within the group. I feel like you can put any of them in a room together and get a totally different energy and fun dynamic. This series really is well done. I'm glad you're doing reactions to it. BTW you have the cutest dog ever. I'm allergic but I'd risk it all to pet that cutie pie.
Yes! We can't wait to see the other dynamics as well! 😃💜
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Other groups started posting on UA-cam and Twitter right after BTS’s success to replicate them. They’re honestly the underdog to undefeated champion story of kpop
everytime i see the part where they talk about “the dark side of kpop” i kinda feel it’s a bit unfair singling them out because have you actually seen what goes on behind the scenes in American performing at schools like Juilliard? Or any serious ballet school for that matter? The torture these kids put themselves into and the sacrifice is really crazy and probably with even less guarantee of success after finishing it if they didn’t get picked up by any of the major dance companies. At least in kpop agencies, if you do finish, you are guaranteed a chance at a career and would to be promoted by the company that already trained you.
Yes! We will refrain from using that term in the future. It is a universal tactic for athletes, performers, musicians, etc. and we do not want it to seem like we are singling out KPop. 💜💜💜💜💜
@@septasoareousrex thank you for understanding. But i really couldn’t blame you guys or anyone who’s new to the kpop scene because it’s pretty much the general narrative about kpop that’s been popularized in the west especially during its early years
They were the 12th act EVER and the 1st and only (so far) Asian act to sell out Wembley Stadium they sold out 2 nights in 90minutes it was epic 💜
The whole point of showing the strict side of kpop industry here is only to show how Bang PD treated BTS differently. Please don't get confused regarding the editing because some people misinterpret it . Bang Pd wanted to change the system so although initially BTS had some rules, he gave them waaaay more freedom than any other agency ever did at the time which is one of the reasons why BTS grew into a group like no other!
I love this series so much and after this years FESTA I think it carries so much more weight and relevance. 💜
We are loving it too!!! Also excited to see some FESTA in the future as well!! 💜
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Exactly! That comment (around 14minutes) about celebrities being so far above you and worshiping them…I don’t feel that way about BTS. Like you said, they are more like friends to root for. They have always lead with their sincerity and authenticity which is what connected them so closely with their fans. Instead of always trying to seem perfect and keep an air of mystery like some other celebrities/idols, they let people in as much as they can to see them as real people.
the video blogs were kinda unique to them! they definitely were the most influential group to do that type of promoting and let's say it's also cause they had to, they didn't have the media help as other groups so they thought doing those videos would help them, and obviously, it worked, and indeed to this day you can see how other groups try to use that strategic cause the saw how it worked with bts, but its really a bts thing, I would say, it was part of what made them unique and therefore their story.
Just vlogging isn't the magic with BTS, it's that they were so honest and open with their fans, and that really made a difference. I don't see other groups opening up and being so honest with their fans. I don't think other agencies would allow that level of honesty, even though we know there are a lot of things that BTS couldn't talk about, and still don't to this day. What they do share with us is always genuine and sincere.
@@tracydowd4013 yeah, i know, i was just answering to something they asked almost at the end of the video
@@nadia9836 I was just expanding on what you said, I didn't mean anything by it. I'm sure you knew that as well. Most ARMY's do know that. 💜
This series is absolutely incredible. And it gets better and better and better. It'll give you SO much insight into their story. And the good thing is that you'll get SO many tastes of dif songs from all the different eras as the series go on. You can keep notes of stuff you like and want to check out. I think it's not so much spoilers as it is little tastes. Highly HIGHLY recommend keeping going with this series and then checking out songs you like that you hear as you go. It'll be a great organic way to discover them 🥰
Kpop training systems have a lot of systemic issues, not necessarily better or worse than the western music industries, just very different.
The vlogs/blogs were fairly unique to BTS at the time, these days a lot of idols do livestreams. I remember the editor of TROB Aneesa did mention she wanted to contrast the typical idol (presenting as perfect, high above you) at the time vs BTS who were literally very real likeable young men (country bumpkins according another Korean person who watched this). Aneesa’s storytelling gets better as the episodes continue actually and you’ll see what she wants to get across clearer too, it’s really cool. Big Hit/Bangtan had their share of body image struggles back then too, you’ll see more of it I think. We never truly see everything that goes on behind the scenes, but I’m sure there was a lot of pressure to look a certain way. We know for a fact that there was definitely media/public criticism about their looks esp during early days of their career. And hints of it even within the company. But it’s also a Korean society thing, not only a kpop idol thing. It’s something that definitely deserves a conversation.
Looking forward to you guys watching more episodes. It’s kind of cool to have something like this from a not official source. Aneesa has done such an amazing job.
The bbygang channel has a bunch of video essays on kpop history, discussions and rebuttals to the dark side of kpop, bts vs kpop etc if you’re ever interested. I really enjoyed those and Elliot actually does & often cites research for his videos.
Thank you so much Jean!! We agree! She did such a good job with this chapter and we are excited to watch the others!
We will have to look into bbygang! We are learning so much as we go and this is what we love. Thank you for sharing with us! We really appreciate it and it makes for an amazing conversation😄💜 BORAHAE! 💜💜💜🦖
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Fyi Jin was 22 korean age so 20 international age!
Just as a rule of hand count -2 when they say their age.. they usually mean their Korean age (when you are born you are 1 and you add 1 for the new year as well)
If i'm not mistaken, at that era, not much idol using vlog dairies as their engagement platform. Its due to their lack of resources, they cant promote themself on television like other kpop idol. But now, many idol do that things.
Fun fact, all BTS members are go to university. They all have finished their undergraduate program (JK was graduated early this year), and now all members (except JK) are postgraduate students.
I really really recommend you to reacts Run BTS variety show. Its very hilarious. We can see every member unique character.
The most beautiful thing about these series is these moments of them talking, with the fans an between themselves
they are so humble and genuine were in we feel like they are not different from us..they are someone we can be friend with despite being BTS..one of the reason why ARMY loves them.
These personal vlogs started a grassroots fan following that grew organically into the BTSARMY of today. It really is fundamentally about the members and who they are as individuals and as BTS. If you think about it - all this content was only released in Korean and international ARMYs had to wait for KARMYs to translate for us. So the fact that every year since debut they grew exponentially is a miracle. I joined the fandom in 2018 when BTS was already global but still using fan cafe - so I had to wait days for their content to be translated . The fact that we the BTSARMY are so invested is because of these 7 precious individuals and the incredible content they create as individuals artists and as Bangtan Sonyeondon 💜
I love our 7 guys so so much. And I'm so happy they're doing what they need and want now. They are still 7 but 7 INDIVIDUALS and this solidifies it. I'm so excited for them
I haven't really watched this series myself so idk when they include it or not, they also released music before debut like lots of covers and even unofficial sort of music videos and even original stuff like sampling beats and adding their own lyric and stuff so that was also how people got to know them and like them and these blogs as well .they also interacted and posted on twitter...idk about other k-pop groups but this was definitely not common practice..and i don't think most or if any had Twitter accounts coz lots of groups started to make Twitter accounts very recently (in like 2017 and stuff for many)
So the Twitter interactions were definitely kinda unique to BTS as far as i know..they posted about tidbits from their daily life and interacted with people and it was really funny too like i look at those sometimes and it was hilarious..they were just very likable
Yes in the 2nd episodes they are in a talk show and they do talk about posting stuff before debut.
The reason these groups also got Twitter in the year of 2017 is because BTS won the BBMAs of top social artist in 2017 which was about Twitter engagement, without BTS winning this award, most of these groups wouldn't have a Twitter account. It's especially interesting because a lot of these groups debuted years before, some even before BTS and still also got their first Twitter accounts only in 2017. The top 10 social artists went from BTS at N1 and others being Justin Bieber, Ariana grande, lady gaga etc in 2017 to BTS at N1 and a whole kpop industry lineup changing in the entire top 10. BTS top social artist is what paved the way for kpop's social media use.
@@-amel-9896 Oh i know..i was there for it all.Just wanted to keep it short and to the point😂
But I'm not sure if not a single one didn't coz a few might have so i said most just in case
They were so smart to use social media. They built their fan base globally right out of the gate and created something beautiful. We are so excited to watch it happen in these chapters!!!
Thank you for filling us in on the Twitter of it all! That’s so cool!!! Thank you for watching and thank you for joining the conversation! We appreciate you!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜BORAHAE!!!💜💜💜🦖
OMG Soare's comment on your laugh Septa was sooo darn cute!!! It made me smile so wide and squeal because it was so adorable! I think you have a great laugh by the way!
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Somebody tell these babies that all their dreams are going to come true. Cause it's so - 🥺
Proudly to say that BTS is the first at everything BTS is the one who rises the flag of Korea worldwide let's simply say they're the Koreans pride💜
Looking forward to your next Rise of Bangtan video reactions. I love hearing your thoughts about them. I've already watched the series up to the most current and now it'll feel like I'm watching it for the first time again. Baby Army here, literally just began loving them early this year. 💜💜💜💜💜
feel like rewatching the rise of bangtan & will do it with you 💜💜
still find it such a miracle for the 7 boys be able to stay so close for years! so many things can went the other way & not worked...Still blow my mind too how humble they are with no sign of arrogance at all! Think about it - Suga RM were good in rapping /music production, but they had to accept Hobi the 3rd member who's an amazing dancer. They must felt their pride being stepped on when they were told they are no longer just a hip hop group but had to get their dancing skill up to Hobi's level.... yet we we can see is pure love, acceptance & pride of all the boys. Vice versa, Hobi didn't see him as better because he can dance, he was just so keen to learn rapping. JK got 7 agencies recognized his potentials but he never bragged about it, but continued to admire & learn from the others. Jin being the eldest yet never once used his authority over the youngers. Tae said in an interview he thought he's dream was just be a trainee not any more, yet he didn't stop but just kept growing. Jimin's a top student & great contemporary dancer yet had never satisfied of his work but always praise the members first... How much more humbleness we can get from 7 young boys
yea i'm a kpop fans since 2004 and one of the reasons i love bts so much not like any other band i stan is bcs they don't feel like those 'god and goddess' but like a best friend, a close friend like something that finally filled the missing part. they're different~
you reacting to this series and diving into the bts rabbit hole really makes me happy! thank you for being open to discovering bts and their music. i love your honest commentaries so i’m looking forward to more videos with the following episodes. i’m really excited to follow your journey to falling in love with bts and being attached to them, i can already see the signs this early because i see how you adore their real personalities.
regarding the topic of vlogging and trying to build a fanbase through social media before debut, it has definitely been kinda like a strategy for idols and companies especially these past few years. but during bts’ generation, that strategy is not really that widely used(? is that the right term?lol). most of the groups and companies at that time relied mostly on mainstream media to promote there artists that’s why most of the groups that are successful during bts’ early years are groups that are from big companies. because only big companies have the capacity and influence/ clout with the mainstream media companies. since bts and big hit don’t have that, they used social media to show the members’ personalities and build that real connection with the fans through constantly communicating with them. their vlogging/ filming behind the scenes are also on another level compared to other groups back then. they show so much of their lives off stage, their work process or just their personal life in general. this is also i think the reason why people really connect to them, there’s so much that we know about them, about their days, their stories, so much to talk about because there’s so much content to watch.
in my opinion, bts really are the ones that changed the game with their effective use of social media. (this is also the reason why they receive hate from the big mainstream media companies and labels) nowadays, since bts has proved how much that “strategy” worked for them, more companies and idols try to make use of social media and posting vlogs/content to build their fanbase.
And honestly, the way other companies and Idols have been doing this in the last few years feels like a weak imitation of what BTS did. It feels like they are just trying to copy them hoping for the same results but they are forgetting the key ingredient was authenticity.
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Okay! That is so cool! They flipped the script on the industry as it was and showed them a new way to be successful. They are all geniuses really. So smart and genuine! 💜😄 of course they would all try to copy them now😂
I just hope they give their artists the creative freedom to speak their minds and create something that will speak to as many people as BTS has been able to reach with their music.
They are really one of a kind though!!! So who knows if it will ever happen again. We are just glad we get to be a part of it and watch them make this world a better place 💜
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They all have university degrees, mostly in broadcasting and entertainment related fields. But mainly through remote learning, so yeah, missed out on the campus experience.
Jin couldn't attend his own graduation so the guys got him flowers and cake. That's the best they could do with a packed schedule. Small, but meaningful acknowledgment.
I can't wait to go through this rise of bangtan journey again with you guys! I love your reactions.
Some dynamics was a big change for members. Jin and Suga were the babies of their families and all of a sudden they are now the older brothers to five siblings. JHope was given responsibility of the dance line. Namjoon is the middle child of the group and he was their leader. Jimin was the elder of the maknae line but had the least amount of training. V was hidden so he couldn't tell anyone he was actually debuting. Jungkook was the youngest but was main singer and center. It was a lot for them. Also remember with the ages you are hearing take off at least one to two years. International age when they debuted: Jin was 20, Suga was 20, JHope was 19, RM was 18, Jimin was 17, V was 17 and JK was 15. When Jungkook was sad after graduating it was because he missed his mom and dad. He was the baby of his family so he had never been separated from them.
yess rise of Bangtan is such a good documentary video 👍 can't wait!!
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What I liked more from BTS is that they never changed, the way they talk with and about ARMY, it's still the same. Like i dont know any other artist that constantly talk to their fans, have a little chat, responds to posts, celebrates with fans online. The beauty of technology, they make it so easy for artists to interacts with fans. They are so big so i dont see why other artists arw too busy to even reply to one post about them. They arw consistent. So theove from fans too never change. Thwy may lose some fans but along the way they attract more and more. Thwy're amazing. The way they are as an individual and group.. Just amazing.
From my perspective, you two also are so REAL and genuine. It makes you both so interesting and engaging. You two share that “personal availability”, that vulnerability, which make BTS so inviting. I’m definitely here for the long run - as I’ve said before! (I get to repeat myself because I’m old. 😂🤣😋) Jerri, 73/35 in Sweden
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I will say, as harsh as trainee and idol life is, I do think it's slowly but surely getting better as time goes on. I feel like on average, idols and trainees are treated far better now than they were a decade ago. The biggest improvement imo has been companies putting more of a focus on maintaining the mental health of their idols
the fact that bangtan had more freedom than other groups but they still wanted to work extra hard bc of the expectations of the industry makes me sad
28:34 This... i know it in the back of my head but still when someone just tells you that it's ok you are not alone that reassurance is what people need to hear more these days you know, we all don't realize that we are all in this together and we have to do what we gotta do!
One thing Jin didn't mention here(and I haven't watched it for myself), is that while he's trying to figure out how to take care of himself, he's now the eldest brother to 6 others that he needs to care for as well. While he was the youngest in his family, so yes he was the one being cared for.
If you think even actors or athletics... how much are there those who work hard, practis endlessly, take allkinds of lessons, training themself, give up "normal life" - starting very young age - and never break through? Not just kpop world and sadly that "dark side" is allso everywhere in this planet, not only music industry but really everywhere - theatre, movies, police, armys, firefigters, sport, normal workplace - just name it... hope this world could be better place some day 💜. Greetings from the edge of Europe
please note that when the guys say their ages they are stating their korean age not international age. They are younger by 1 to 2 years in international age.
i always thought it was ironic that being from such a small company, having limited exposure bc of big hit's lack of influence/money/pull, forced bts to find other avenues to connect. add that they connected in personal ways, showing who they were genuinely in vlogs and in the music itself, this was all part of the happenstance that would create such a dedicated and vast fan base. there doesn't seem to be many other that put so much meaning and artistry within the music, making you think and feel about topics beyond the screaming admiration of boy band
Exactly! It seemed like a disadvantage for them at first but really it was what unlocked their full potential and encouraged them to be their genuine selves💜💜💜💜 so happy to see it all unfold😃
Thank you for watching!!
We appreciate you!!!💜💜💜 BORAHAE!💜💜💜🦖
I'll always say this even if bts stop releasing music and keep doing just reality shows and stuff I will still keep being a fan because them as people just their words and everything is comforting
I totally recommend reacting to:
- The Most Beautiful Life Goes On: A Story of BTS (2022 Update!) By: Rice Squad
The reason I suggest this other introduction is because it briefly talks about the members, but then goes into their albums! It'll also give you a feel for some more of their songs!
As for songs, I totally recommend these MVs:
-Dope
-Fire (They play dope at the beginning of the mv)
-Mic Drop (Steve Aoki Remix)
-Boy with Luv (Ft. Halsey)
And if you feel up for a gut-wrenching but famous BTS song, Spring Day/Spring day explanation by Italian ARMY
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i had never seen rise of bangtan, though i had heard much about it, so im watching along you guys for the first time. very excited about it haha
YAYYYY!!! That’s so amazing!!! We hope you love going on the journey with us!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖
BTS is humble, loved and respected but what I think makes them different from all these all Kpop groups, is their die hard dedication to their craft. They are the only group who took the chance to address all their issues in their time of upcoming. Topics that other groups would never touch. Truth about youth, depression, social injustice, self love, anti bullying, etc... I believe this may be the reason why our boys have so many haters. When you dare to take this risk of talking about these sensitive topics, comes with alot of negative feedback. Yet, it's the truth where some can relate and would make them stan them for their voice that others can not put out but support since it is only natural to support others who can be a voice for them. The talent and bravery these guys have is amazing, especially in their younger years! How impressive, how young and mature they were... so innocent, goofy and fun but so focused on their craft, it's amazing!!
I love this series.. excited af!!!!!🤩💜
You two are just sooo cute together💜💜Love to watch you share your thoughts and being so soft about them. I can totally relate to that. Love you guys~ Have a great day.
We are so glad you enjoy!!!! We love you too!!!!💜😄🥹 and all of your kind words🥹💜 we appreciate you Katya💜💜🦖
These vlogs and behind the scenes (documentary) were not really a common thing but now it is pretty normal to see other groups (mainly their companies) doing it
But some people who are not going to agree with me but K-pop is not a genre of music just like you would not say American pop you would not say Korean pop ! K-pop is a concept and an industry that was created in South Korea during the early 1990s! And at the age of 22 JIN was actually a late bloomer he knew nothing about singing or dancing he was becoming a actor that was his goal in the beginning before he joined BTS! You have to start out early like as a trainee around 12 and 13 ! there’s a difference in ages we have an international age which is the age that we recognize here in the western countries such as Canada ,United States and Europe but in South Korea there is what you call the Korean age and that is the difference! The differences here nine months you spend in the womb when you are born that is considered one year of age. when you are born either in the end month such as December the following year the new year will make you actually two years older. BTS ‘s V ( Kim TaeHyung) is born December 30, 1995, February is the actual new year for South Koreans, Japanese and most Asian countries recognize that even though the United States and other Western countries recognize January 1 to be the new year. Because V was born December 30 he would turn actually two years older than the western or international age. There has been talks and discussions to eliminate the Korean standard age?! The different concepts of cultural differences also will be displayed through your journey as you go through the” rise of Bangtan series. I myself have already gone through all the series and the person who actually put this all together she is also ARMY and her editing and putting together this series was just pure genius and I have not really seen too many informational videos about BTS and the K-pop industry that would compare! 💜🙏🏼
oh you’re watching rise of bangtan!!!! yayyy im so happy :D tyty
hope you’re both healthy and happy ~ take your time and enjoy getting to know our tannies
I’m so glad you are doing this series! During my spring break (I’m a math teacher), I watched all the episodes plus the deleted and extra ones. I’m excited to go through these again with you guys. There are different generation K-pop bands. I’m partial to 2nd and 3rd. I like Shinee and Mamamoo, but there are so many! BTS’s journey is so different than most other K-pop groups especially from the Big 3. I think Aneesa did a great job showing the difference and how BTS overcame so many obstacles. 💜
Ok, you guys are adorable together! 💜
We are so excited! We understand how you marathoned through all of them in your Spring Break! She did such a good job putting this together and we are excited to see it all!!! 💜💜💜💜
Loving their journey and just them in general🤣💜💜💜💜
Awwweeee!!! Thank you for the beautiful compliment!!!! 😭💜💜😭💜💜
You are too sweet Yukari Bromfield!!! We are just glad to have you here with us! 💜
BORAHAE!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖
THANKS FOR REACTING...LOVE IT SO MUCH!!!
aaahh im so excited for this
I pretty exited about this one! Send you love guys, love your reactions! You both are very nice pople!
We are so glad you were excited!!! We are sending you love and hugs!!!! 💜💜💜💜 thank you so much!!! You are so kind💜😭💜😭💜 we appreciate you!!!💜💜💜🦖
Thank you both so much for this reaction!! Septa, you have a great laugh!😊 Also, I recently made a new friend that laughs when she feels awkward or unsure of what she’s saying and her bias is RM too! Lol, so cute!!💜
Awe thank you!!!💜💜💜💜💜 Yes! That is amazing! 🤣💜🦖 BORAHAE!!!💜💜🦖
Since BTS didn't have the influence and power because they came from a small company, so they weren't invited on TV shows, interviews and all that stuff that was like a huge promotion and the main way to do it at that time and if they did, they were treated badly. That's why BigHit started sharing their own content and created their own reality shows. Other idols from big companies appeared on these shows all the time but now since they saw the impact that BTS had and the approach with their fans, they also started releasing this type of content. I would say the majority of the 3rd and 4th generation of kpop groups now have their own type of reality show tho
Sorry if my English bad
Can't wait to watch the rest of this Docu-series with you guys 💜
11:34 it sure if it’s super clear right away to newer army but what you just said right here is 100% the point of why they’re showing you how people view K-pop idols and kinda the way the industry runs and what they are trying to build into these groups…. But they’re also showing you how BTS doesn’t fit any of the things that they’re saying about what makes someone a K-pop idol… the mentality with BTS was never the same as their K-pop industry and the way that it is ran…. It’s why they’re showing you these things once you kinda get a vibe from BTS is bc what you just said right here is the entire point…. The things they’re saying about their almost perfect version of a K-pop idol is very different from BTS and how they even grew their career… but you’re spot on here!
I have never heard a point of view such as yours, reacting to Rise of Bangtan, especially the thing about trainee that is being couch and train by the agency... many if other reactor thinks that's kind of hard and harsh to dismissed and make all this kids gone through a lot of training and not guarantee debut, but you said that you wish record label in America willing to put in the work like those agency in South Korea....thank you for reacting this series....love you guys
Glad you enjoy our opinions! Training is very strenuous and difficult to watch but when it comes to physically strenuous work it is a necessity. 💜 We love you!!!💜💜💜💜💜 BORAHAE 💜💜💜🦖
ahh this series is so emotional !! at the end you will want to bangtan to reach the sky and you will have glimpse of their music throught the years... so excited and also your reactions on point love hearing you guys.
hi guys, this documentary is made by an ARMY, she didn't put copyright in all of the series. So you'll free to play all of those songs. Pls don't mute it. I've seen many reactors of TROB and they didn't mute any of the songs bcos it doesn't have copyright issues at all. thank you!
Your intro by the way is the cutest thing ever… I love it 💜✨🦖
OHHHH!!! Thank you so much!!!!! 🥹💜🥳🥹🦖😭💜🥳🥹 We are so glad you like it!!!!! Sending you all of our love!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜BORAHAE!!💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🦖
To be honest the kpop industry formula works up to a certain point. The difference between sports and kpop and the music Industry, is kpop realies on creative processes to create music, dance and content. Creativity needs to have open space and flow. Constricting your creativity to much, you kill it! Listening to your reaction kind of makes me wonder if this is part of the reason many groups only last for a couple of years. 🤔
hmm, I’d say it’s only a small part of the reason why. since many idol groups often aren’t intimately involved in their creative processes, I wouldn’t say that creative burnout is a big cause of disbandment. a lot of music production and writing is outsourced to different producers and composers. I’d say the major cause of disbandment for many groups is either there’ll be members who want to branch off solo or to other parts of the entertainment industry (acting, etc) or its just complete exhaustion from their insanely busy lives as idols. by the time that 7 year contract comes to an end, most groups have either already passed their golden age of popularity and are on the road to irrelevancy or members of the group are too exhausted from the lifestyle to want to carry on. you also see cases where a group will disband after their contract ends and individual members will move into agencies that give them the creative freedom that they actually need to continue pursuing a career in the music industry. companies themselves will also choose to disband certain groups if they’re not raking in enough profit. but yes, the idol industry just does not allow creativity to flow, the idol system itself is a recipe for creative burnout. namjoon talks about this in their recent festa dinner as well
@@doraaaa0613 Very true. Many groups that do last longer than their 7 year contract is very rare. Not to mention for male idols having military mandatory service too! I'm glad Namjoon was brought this up at their Festa! 😊 Thank you for your input. 🙏🏽
@@smatias83 yep yep, military enlistment as well is a big factor for male idol groups. yes, it’s incredibly rare! honestly, BTS are such a rare case in the idol industry. and I’m confident they’ll keep going for many more years ^_^ I’m glad it was brought up too, imo the industry is in need of an overhaul and massive changes in its structure. it does some things right but is not a feasible way for artists to live.
@@doraaaa0613 Definitely!! The industry needs a massive overhaul!
@@veronicadeor There are a lot groups that debut each year. I believe in 2012 or 2013, the music shows actually had to make an announcement that they were capping how many groups were debuting each week to 100 groups. There were so many groups trying to debut that the music shows did not have any space for them. Many of the smaller companies complained because they knew their groups would not be able to get spot since the bigger companies at that time had more influence.
i love your bts reactions, i have been following since you started your bangtan journey. funny you mentioned the "no cover" show, as my son's band is on the first season. it was filmed about a year and a half ago btw. anyway, it does suck how much you need to be established in order to get any interest from labels. i will tell you since my son's band started, they have had many offers but they've been abysmal, because they don't have a huge social media following. how are you supposed to get that when no one knows you? you have to be good and lucky at sm, and when you're 5 REALLY young (now only 4 ) kids in school who just want to make music, it's a harsh reality to face and work that has to be done - instagram, tiktoks, facebook daily... but i also understand that the industry is different now. you don't need a label to make and release music, and companies don't make money like they used to, so to invest so much money up front into a band is risky. anyway, wonder if you can guess which band they are? :) they've also grown so much in over a year, being so young and talented. looking forward to watching more RoB episodes with you two. it is such a well done series and let's you see bangtan's story from their own words, pretty much as it happened.
Thank you so much! We're really happy that you like our reactions and it's really interesting that your son was part of that show! Would your son possibly be part of Scarlet View? 🤔 We wish him and his band immense success and happiness! It's a hard industry to be in but as long as passion for the music is there, it will show 😁😁
@@septasoareousrex he’s in the youngest band on the show, slaves to humanity (horrible name, i know, but stuck with it for many reasons). he, along with the singer and drummer, just graduated high school last month. thanks for the well wishes, and i return them to you ☺️💜
The whole point of this docu series is about how BTS and BigHit are different than other KPOP groups/companies.
The rise of Bangtan is such a well made docuseries! When BTS started it was not common for other Kpop idols to film log like this but since they were from a small company who had no connection in the industry they filmed logs like that to connect with fans! I think in a way it really helped them especially with gaining a huge international fan base. Before BTS I've tried to listen to other kpop group and I might like a few songs here and there I just feel a genuine connection when I listen to BTS. The fact that Big Hit wants BTS to just be themselves instead of being perfect looking all the time is definitely a very different concept at that time for K pop idol!
I am really happy you started it this way, thank you 😊 love the reaction ☺️🥹🥹😍💜💜💜
I'm not really sure about vlogs but I think there aren't many idols who have done that. But BTS is the only group who started making their own music themselves during training time and also they released those musics even at that time before their debut. I think that was the same too about their vlogs but not sure 💜
I don't know how many times I have watched each chapter but I will definitely watch each chapter again with you. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and commentaries during the video. Thank you for being respectful and genuine.
Hope you guys react to the recent FESTA 2022 dinner party! 😊
They shared alot of what they've been honestly feeling for the past year here makes me want to hug them 🥲 (it's an hour long talk when they just sit down and talk about their year)
Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. Love this series as well. So glad u watched this. Interesting 1st ep though. This looks like its not the current ep. It's different than the one i watched. Hmm. I loved the dairies and music. The info about Korea and the training. Most of the members spent 2-3 years together training as you saw mentioned in the doc. Jimin spent 6-8 months only training before debut. Yet, they love him dearly. They would not be BTS without all the members u know. This is a great doc. I love learning new info about BTS. Borahae! -2019 ARMY NY USA 💜
11:22 the thing with this first episode is that you get an intro to the kpop industry and to BTS and just like you say, BTS does not feel high above you, they are not gods you worship, they are humble and genuine. So this is not all how BTS have had it, it is meant to show you how different BTS have had it compared to other idols but also meant to show you what the general kpop industry is like and big companies vs Bang PD's as he said not mainstream company and at 39:12 after black pink and others have told horror stories about forced practice and weight loss at their companies you hear how Bang did not force mandatory practice even, he just wanted genuine stories in the lyrics. BTS talk about how they stay up writing and diet too but it's their choice. Most of BTS stay up all night whether they have stuff to do or not.
BTS was not with Black Pink or anyone else you see in this ep. It is just meant to go back and forth between to show the difference.
I'm gonna keep watching and you probably will get it BUT later you really see the difference between BTS and the kpop industry, the difference between other idols and BTS in how they do things and the difference between BTS/Bang PD's company Big Hit (Hybe) and the other companys.
Bang PD had a whole different philosophy.
And in the beginning when talking about idols being like gods etc. they also said that you get into the whole k-culture and beauty etc, but BTS fans are often not into kpop or everything korean. We like BTS for their music and their personalities.
I hope and believe you probably will get it later but so many have watched this and thought it shows that BTS had it so I just wanted to point it out before I forget. :)
Korean age system you count every year. So your first year in life is your 1, on January 1st you get one more.
Like just think of it as how many different year calendars you would have on your wall if you kept them all since you were born. Your age changes on jan 1st not on your birthday.
This makes the age they say be 1-2 years more than their international age.
Jin said he was 22 in the start of 2013 but he is born in dec 1992 so his international age was 20 and he was turning 21 in december that year.
RM said he was 20 but he was 18 and turning 19 in September.
1992 Jin
1993 SUGA
1994 j-hope
1994 RM
1995 Jimin
1995 V (Tae)
1997 JK (Jungkook)
Hi, Just want to let ya'll know that, Chapter 2 of BTS which is the start of their solo project. Please support and give love to their individual Music career. Starting with Jhope, Jhope will be releasing his solo album in July 15 in all music platform but this Friday, JULY 1st, 1pm KST, he will be releasing his first single "MORE" please look out and give love and support. The teaser MV for "more" is out now! he will also be at lollapalooza in Sunday, July 31. Please do look out for BTS new chapter! thank you!