@@TrojuborgI don't understand this elitist pro-expense vibe I've been seeing amongst mtb consumers lately. There are plenty of quality dealer sold MTB's out there at half the price. Why be elitist about whatever price you decide to buy a bike at
I like the design on this bike and feel that more bike companies should follow suit with hidden shocks it makes the bike look really nice in my opinion my only complaint about this bike is the price tag 10k is a lot of money for the average rider like myself and so many others I’m going to have to become a big time UA-camr so I can get my hands on cool bikes like this one
Didn’t hear you mention it but this bike will fit other shocks than the stock version. Fox X2 and X, any Öhlins, and RS super deluxe options. Probably many others too. But they do have a new type of eyelet with bearings that might not be too common atm
Great package and better geo than the Bold, especially the longer chainstays. Also the HT angle seems to be sensible. I don’t see any need for any other shock, the float x is great!
I think it's bad value for money at any build level. While it looks amazing, I'm not in a position to invest that much in aesthetics. I do appreciate the benefit of an enclosed shock as well, but again, the cost. I'll be interested to see if the alloy version keeps the integration like they did with the spark, or if they'll simplify to be more cost competative.
The frame is very high quality and well engineered, which is undoubtedly the cause for the price tag. It’s more than just aesthetics, but we get what you’re saying for sure.
You guys are the best I love your channel. I live in WA and ride in OR all the time. I'm gonna buy a tee shirt hopefully I run into yall on the trail. God bless
It's possible that it will add a little extra heat, but Scott was adamant they weren't getting any issues with it and we didn't suffer from any fading on super rough 5 minute descents.
Hey Brother Im on the fence of buying the ransom eride 920 or the orbea wild h10. I want an all around bike, i leaning towards the scott, but everyone including you guys are crazy for the orbea. Please, any guidance will be greatly be appreciated
Hey what's up Eddie. Both bikes are absolutely awesome in their own right....While Robert would likely pick the Orbea, Drew and some of the others may find the Scott tugging at our sleeve. It's a greave value, has more travel and a different ride than the Orbea. If you value a more plus, supple, lively and active suspension feel and a frame that has a bit more compliance and forgiveness, the Scott could be worth considering! The Orbea is amazing, as you know. But it's certainly a pointed machine and could be considered more of a "race" bike that rewards you most when ridden very hard.
@@TheLoamWolf First off! Thank you for the reply, you guys are the best. I had technically had already bought the scott, took it home and my garage got burglarized that night and stole my new ransom, i didn't even get to install pedals on it. (worst of all my insurance didn't cover it because it has a motor, hard lesson to learn) so I now have a 2nd chance to choose what bike to buy. I come owning a yeti sb165 so i know what a purpose built bike is like. I ride 60% dh parks and 40% local trail and fun rides. Let me add that if i go with either or of the bikes, i will be upgrading the suspension to fox factory front and rear, with that being said. I'm 5"8 so i ride a med, my dream would be the scott with a mullet setup, and coil shock with the awesome 180mm travel it offers, but I've heard you can't run a coil shock. Could you touch on that? I really like the orbea but I liked how much you guys liked the scott. Thanks for all the wisdom.
@@eddiedeleon7928 i am running a rockshox super deluxe ultimate coil on my ransom eride and mullet too and it is so sick ! i have a bunch of videos of it on my channel
Ohhh man that is such a bummer! Sounds like Eddie below is running a coil, not sure if the size of frame would be a restriction but we'd suggeest calling/emailing Scott to confirm! We've not played around with a coil on them to confirm. But, it is a sick bike!! Sounds like the Orbea could also work, but it seems like you are leaning Scott and we wouldn't feel guilty about that if its what you want and better suited! Which bike checks off more boxes for you!! Have fun and hope this one sticks around longer!
Interesting how geometry numbers are within 1 or 2 ml of the Specialized enduro. The Enduro has been on super sale for a long time. This seems like a great bike but these companies need to get the price back down to earth. The Ransom e ride is a much better value
Specialized definitely did something right with the enduro back then. Ransom eRide is great value, but its frame isn't nearly as advanced as this Ransom. Doesn't stop it from being a ripper, though.
@@TheLoamWolfi just purchased the specialized enduro expert for a good price witb gx axes and i added next r carbon bar and carbon rims and the new sram code ultimate brakes. Also made the zeb 180 not 170. Its a beast and looks better in my opinion than this scott.
Imagine what a damp corrosion prone area that hidden shock bucket will be for 6-8 months of the year in the UK. If you are imagining anything other than more problems and expense, than having the shock where can see it, good luck.
Took a the shock from a protected position inside the frame triangle to being exposed underneath it. I can totally see someone smashing the shock on a rock.
The cover should protect it well enough. If you're smashing the downtube hard enough to compromise the shock, a more standard frame design is probably toast too?
The weight is without Pedals, tubes and toolbox(Info from Scott Website) but with 15.2 kg on the top Model,it’s Not so heavy for the Travel you will get, there are heavier bikes out there.
$10K are in many ways crazy money imo. You have to be a pretty big enthusiast of mtb to justify a bike at that price range. I'm in no way being negative here, I'm currently spec'ing an E-mtb that will end me in this range and I still feel somewhat disgusted by cost of it. Shitty thing is $10K ain't even that expensive for a bike these days. E.g. nearly $1K for an AXS Dropper post.. $2000+ for a X0 T-Type AXS Transmission groupset. Shameful. I get it's new tech and all, but damn!
It's certainly more complex. But, Scott engineers do their best to make everything as practical and mechanic-friendly as possible, so it's likely not too much more difficult.
I’m sure he will like it, European bike, I’m not a big fan of Scott bikes…to complex and gadgets, similar to the Canyon shape shifter garbage! A bike should be simple less crap to break..just ride and clean once a week haha. Also why are we saying 34lbs is keeping it lightweight??
I (Robert) have no care where a bike is from, only how it performs. Sorry you think that Shapeshifter is garbage, but I wholeheartedly disagree. The Tracloc on the Scott is, like I say in the video, questionable in its need. 34lbs for its spec and how sturdy it feels is pretty respectable, IMO.
thats the problem, we are accepting 34lb bikes as normal now, yeah its longer travel but even the Scott "trail" bike is like 32lbs. More things to break/fix on the trail equals more hassel. Scott has always been gimecky,/niche followers. Do people really need on the fly geo adustments, or damping control. Albeit with this design you can't even reach the climb/trail/descend lever on the shox so you have to have the lever@@TheLoamWolf
We won't argue that 32lbs for a "trail" bike is a bit on the portly side! And yes, ease of access is nice when things do go wrong, however if (and that is still to be seen) things do not go wrong, then it's not really an issue. Sort of like how old cars used to have very easy engines to work up until the 80s and maybe even 90s, but they required a lot more upkeep. Now they're nearly impossible for a home mechanic to work on, BUT, we'd argue they may be more reliable? Maybe... haha. That said, we never like to assume how valuable or what people "really" need as we have ridden enough places with enough people that trends and desires for things have surprised us with what is a must have to some while we consider to be an instant take off! It's very narrow-minded for us as reviewers to only think people ride the way we want and think a bike should be spec'd or perform. For those reasons, and more, we try to stay objective and instead focus on who may enjoy a certain product, or who it's not ideally suited for. Sounds like this bike is certainly not for you, however we are equally positive there are people right now waiting for this thing to show up because it checks off all the boxes for them... We're lucky that in this world we have so many options for all our tastes.
I think you need to work on keeping sentences a bit shorter and to the point. Not trying to be rude but these videos would be a lot easier to watch if they were less waffle.
This bike will allow your bike mechanic to send his kids to the most expensive private schools
It's cute hearing from people that buy DTC bikes.
@@Trojuborg I only buy used
@@TrojuborgI don't understand this elitist pro-expense vibe I've been seeing amongst mtb consumers lately. There are plenty of quality dealer sold MTB's out there at half the price. Why be elitist about whatever price you decide to buy a bike at
@@Coercedthey have to justify their own crazy purchases/wants.
People said the same about Yeti. Switch infinity....
I freakin love this channel! Beat bike reviews in the game right now!
Thank you very much!!
You mean best?
Bike looks and sounds absolutely sick. Hope they go on sale one day lol.
It’s really good. Shame it can’t be cheap too!
I like the design on this bike and feel that more bike companies should follow suit with hidden shocks it makes the bike look really nice in my opinion my only complaint about this bike is the price tag 10k is a lot of money for the average rider like myself and so many others I’m going to have to become a big time UA-camr so I can get my hands on cool bikes like this one
Didn’t hear you mention it but this bike will fit other shocks than the stock version. Fox X2 and X, any Öhlins, and RS super deluxe options. Probably many others too. But they do have a new type of eyelet with bearings that might not be too common atm
Yes indeed, most common shocks aside from the new Vivid should fit.
Fit Bit can Not be Set up propperly:D
Do you know where I can buy the new Ransom it looks like that the earliest is next year😢
Great package and better geo than the Bold, especially the longer chainstays. Also the HT angle seems to be sensible. I don’t see any need for any other shock, the float x is great!
Scott's done a good job with it for sure.
I think it's bad value for money at any build level. While it looks amazing, I'm not in a position to invest that much in aesthetics. I do appreciate the benefit of an enclosed shock as well, but again, the cost. I'll be interested to see if the alloy version keeps the integration like they did with the spark, or if they'll simplify to be more cost competative.
The frame is very high quality and well engineered, which is undoubtedly the cause for the price tag. It’s more than just aesthetics, but we get what you’re saying for sure.
Scott had to buy an entire other bike company and shut them down just to acquire the inner shock mounting technology, that costs money!
Reminds me of the 6 bar Specialized Enduro with a hidden shock.
Lol the all copying that design that specialized designed 4 years ago lol
would the new 910 be better for uphill or basically the same?
You guys are the best I love your channel. I live in WA and ride in OR all the time. I'm gonna buy a tee shirt hopefully I run into yall on the trail. God bless
Awesome! Thank you! We appreciate the kind words and would be honored to have you reppin a t-shirt! 🙏
Wouldn’t the lack of air flow in the shock cavity create excess heat and shock fade?
It's possible that it will add a little extra heat, but Scott was adamant they weren't getting any issues with it and we didn't suffer from any fading on super rough 5 minute descents.
@@TheLoamWolfare there any other experiences here regarding the heat and shock problem?
I have a 2021 ransom 920 and love ut but this is something else. Dang price tag tho.. could buy a new yz450f lol
Hey Brother Im on the fence of buying the ransom eride 920 or the orbea wild h10. I want an all around bike, i leaning towards the scott, but everyone including you guys are crazy for the orbea. Please, any guidance will be greatly be appreciated
I love that the scott offers 180mm of travel and is mullet capable, while the orbea is not recommended to do.
Hey what's up Eddie. Both bikes are absolutely awesome in their own right....While Robert would likely pick the Orbea, Drew and some of the others may find the Scott tugging at our sleeve. It's a greave value, has more travel and a different ride than the Orbea.
If you value a more plus, supple, lively and active suspension feel and a frame that has a bit more compliance and forgiveness, the Scott could be worth considering! The Orbea is amazing, as you know. But it's certainly a pointed machine and could be considered more of a "race" bike that rewards you most when ridden very hard.
@@TheLoamWolf First off! Thank you for the reply, you guys are the best. I had technically had already bought the scott, took it home and my garage got burglarized that night and stole my new ransom, i didn't even get to install pedals on it. (worst of all my insurance didn't cover it because it has a motor, hard lesson to learn) so I now have a 2nd chance to choose what bike to buy. I come owning a yeti sb165 so i know what a purpose built bike is like. I ride 60% dh parks and 40% local trail and fun rides. Let me add that if i go with either or of the bikes, i will be upgrading the suspension to fox factory front and rear, with that being said. I'm 5"8 so i ride a med, my dream would be the scott with a mullet setup, and coil shock with the awesome 180mm travel it offers, but I've heard you can't run a coil shock. Could you touch on that? I really like the orbea but I liked how much you guys liked the scott. Thanks for all the wisdom.
@@eddiedeleon7928 i am running a rockshox super deluxe ultimate coil on my ransom eride and mullet too and it is so sick ! i have a bunch of videos of it on my channel
Ohhh man that is such a bummer! Sounds like Eddie below is running a coil, not sure if the size of frame would be a restriction but we'd suggeest calling/emailing Scott to confirm! We've not played around with a coil on them to confirm. But, it is a sick bike!! Sounds like the Orbea could also work, but it seems like you are leaning Scott and we wouldn't feel guilty about that if its what you want and better suited! Which bike checks off more boxes for you!!
Have fun and hope this one sticks around longer!
The bar-stem combo is the equivalent of a ButterFace. 😮
They aren't for everyone!
Ate gonna test the commencal meta power sx soon?
Interesting how geometry numbers are within 1 or 2 ml of the Specialized enduro. The Enduro has been on super sale for a long time. This seems like a
great bike but these companies need to get the price back down to earth. The Ransom e ride is a much better value
Specialized definitely did something right with the enduro back then.
Ransom eRide is great value, but its frame isn't nearly as advanced as this Ransom. Doesn't stop it from being a ripper, though.
@@TheLoamWolfi just purchased the specialized enduro expert for a good price witb gx axes and i added next r carbon bar and carbon rims and the new sram code ultimate brakes. Also made the zeb 180 not 170. Its a beast and looks better in my opinion than this scott.
Imagine what a damp corrosion prone area that hidden shock bucket will be for 6-8 months of the year in the UK. If you are imagining anything other than more problems and expense, than having the shock where can see it, good luck.
Take the cover off whilst it’s in storage then, problem solved.
Is there a new Ransom Eride coming soon?
Not that we're aware of right now. But who knows! It's been out a while.
It got the hidden shock treatment! And it's a looker too
It sure is. Very stoked to get some more time on it.
Took a the shock from a protected position inside the frame triangle to being exposed underneath it. I can totally see someone smashing the shock on a rock.
The cover should protect it well enough. If you're smashing the downtube hard enough to compromise the shock, a more standard frame design is probably toast too?
And here in Australia we only get the 910 and 920
Arguably the smarter buys than the 900 RC from a performance vs price perspective!
All looks so good until you see the bar/stem setup
Integrated setups aren't for everyone. This one felt reasonably comfortable.
looks like an ebike 👍
You said 35lbs with NO pedals?!
On a top-spec bike with Factory!?
Wow... That's definitely a Bike Park bike.
Wait how much? That's what my Alu frame bike weighs, and I didn't put much effort into making it light either, certainly didn't compromise for that.
its a 170mm full sus, not an cx bike buddy
@@fpsgenerator bro, it's full carbon and expensive as frig
The weight is without Pedals, tubes and toolbox(Info from Scott Website) but with 15.2 kg on the top Model,it’s Not so heavy for the Travel you will get, there are heavier bikes out there.
$10K are in many ways crazy money imo. You have to be a pretty big enthusiast of mtb to justify a bike at that price range.
I'm in no way being negative here, I'm currently spec'ing an E-mtb that will end me in this range and I still feel somewhat disgusted by cost of it.
Shitty thing is $10K ain't even that expensive for a bike these days. E.g. nearly $1K for an AXS Dropper post.. $2000+ for a X0 T-Type AXS Transmission groupset. Shameful.
I get it's new tech and all, but damn!
It looks cool, but its too expensive.
Wow
You’re not a fan?
Integrated stem…..arrrhhhh. What a spoiler!!
Some of the lower models don't have it.
looks like an ebike
Wow this bike must be a nightmare to maintain. This coming from last gen Ransom owner
It's certainly more complex. But, Scott engineers do their best to make everything as practical and mechanic-friendly as possible, so it's likely not too much more difficult.
Looks sick. But aluminum wheels on a $10k bike? Yikes
High quality alloy wheels at least. Carbon doesn’t always mean better. But we agree it’s a surprise at the price point.
@@Playwholeday it has 170mm of travel lol. Plenty of strong and compliant wheels out there these days
@@TheLoamWolf I’m aware, just interesting given the market of strong/compliant carbon wheels out there they opted for aluminum on a 10k bike
It looks more E bike than my E bike.😊
I’m sure he will like it, European bike, I’m not a big fan of Scott bikes…to complex and gadgets, similar to the Canyon shape shifter garbage! A bike should be simple less crap to break..just ride and clean once a week haha. Also why are we saying 34lbs is keeping it lightweight??
I (Robert) have no care where a bike is from, only how it performs. Sorry you think that Shapeshifter is garbage, but I wholeheartedly disagree. The Tracloc on the Scott is, like I say in the video, questionable in its need.
34lbs for its spec and how sturdy it feels is pretty respectable, IMO.
thats the problem, we are accepting 34lb bikes as normal now, yeah its longer travel but even the Scott "trail" bike is like 32lbs. More things to break/fix on the trail equals more hassel. Scott has always been gimecky,/niche followers. Do people really need on the fly geo adustments, or damping control. Albeit with this design you can't even reach the climb/trail/descend lever on the shox so you have to have the lever@@TheLoamWolf
We won't argue that 32lbs for a "trail" bike is a bit on the portly side! And yes, ease of access is nice when things do go wrong, however if (and that is still to be seen) things do not go wrong, then it's not really an issue. Sort of like how old cars used to have very easy engines to work up until the 80s and maybe even 90s, but they required a lot more upkeep. Now they're nearly impossible for a home mechanic to work on, BUT, we'd argue they may be more reliable? Maybe... haha.
That said, we never like to assume how valuable or what people "really" need as we have ridden enough places with enough people that trends and desires for things have surprised us with what is a must have to some while we consider to be an instant take off! It's very narrow-minded for us as reviewers to only think people ride the way we want and think a bike should be spec'd or perform. For those reasons, and more, we try to stay objective and instead focus on who may enjoy a certain product, or who it's not ideally suited for.
Sounds like this bike is certainly not for you, however we are equally positive there are people right now waiting for this thing to show up because it checks off all the boxes for them... We're lucky that in this world we have so many options for all our tastes.
what is this E-bike xD Rear shock will boil there... that's how it ends when you do force changes
I think you need to work on keeping sentences a bit shorter and to the point. Not trying to be rude but these videos would be a lot easier to watch if they were less waffle.
Thanks for the feedback, always trying to improve.
PUT A MOTOR IN IT..... NOOOOOOOW!!! :D
it looks like an ebike, could be mistaken for a fazua ride 60 bike.
Maybe they will…
How are they going to insert a motor in there where they put the shock?!
@@Vodafone16v they could mount it horizontally.
my bad didn't notice where the shock was mounted figured it was a vertical mount.
Nice bike but don’t like the look of the hidden shock.
Too many damn levers
$10,000 buys a brand new dirt bike ! Hello !
Stupid Bike with stupid Features .
Please Scott
Dont kill the Gambler!!!