Thorfinn Survives 100 Punches | VINLAND SAGA SEASON 2
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Episode 22: Thorfinn WILL talk to Canute! Watch VINLAND SAGA SEASON 2 on Crunchyroll! got.cr/cc-vss2-22
Around the end of the millennium, Viking, the mightiest but atrocious tribe, had been out breaking everywhere. Thorfinn, the son of the greatest warrior, lived his childhood in the battlefield. He was seeking the land of reverie called Vinland. This is the story of a true warrior in an age of turmoil.
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Crunchy roll show us the no enemies line.
Could you please wait some days before posting this kind of clips Crunchyroll? I did not even see the episode that was released 3 hours ago and I'm already spoiled... (It was on the youtube main page, I of course did no seek for it)
@@ralofderivebois7156 that's literally ur fault if ur watching the show then shouldn't u watch the new ep releasing??? And if u dont want to get spoiled watch the goddamn ep not that hard
I understand it was long for 1 single episode but cutting Thorfinn's response at the end completely kills the momentum and most importantly the reaction to his response...
@Ralof De Rivebois they mostly post moments from th3 first half of the episodes and this is literally at the beginning of the episode
If I punch a guy 32 times and he starts screaming at me to hit him 68 more times, I'm running.
Imagine a mf tanking 32 of your punches ; man I'd never be throwing a punch my entire life
Id never be the same afterwards
😂
😂
😅😅
I've got to admit, seeing them all standing there in silence watching, made for a powerful moment.
No caaaaaap😂
My boy fell to his kneeees😭
Made me feel like I had a father for a real moment (I have 2 moms)
@@NipponStiqqyPaintit's ok as long as you're loved bro. Just don't forget about masculinity
@@NipponStiqqyPaint Where is your father?
I like how the last punch was both a display of respect and admission of defeat.
Right. At that point Drott was done, but he kept punching not out of his honor but of Thors
reality: dude was just spent af and could barely swing his arm
Not that deep dude. He was just exhausted and knew the last punches were pointless
@@johnnydang4397 Drott did show some respect after that punch in addressing Thorfinn. It could be true that the last punch actually meant something like that.
@@johnnydang4397 that was a punch right to the heart. Symbolism is pretty clear here ;)
He outlasted his opponent without even throwing a punch. Thorfinn a true warrior for real
yeah sure. Very wise of him
@@visitante-pc5zc shush 🤫
@@visitante-pc5zc shush
Shush
@@visitante-pc5zc Shush
"People are waiting for me", I love that line so much, Leif, his Mother, his Sister, Iceland, Home. He's ready to go back
Season 3 is waiting for him.....and us hopefully...
And I love it's not another cool cliche line we always see in other animes in moments like this.
i’m actually waiting on him to do some action and not plant potatoes
@@sahar3820 That’s one of the coolest things about Thorfinn. He overcomed his edgelord stage to become a pacifist protector badass unlike Light Yagami, Eren and other drama queen protagonists.
After we know Thorfinn’s background saying his desire to push foward to meet his family and friends again sounds really cool.
Dude was so serious, he's totally waiting for season 3
Can we give a round of applause to Thorfinn's VA??? His work this season has been outstanding! From emotional numbness, to extreme sorrow, contemplation, and seething anger; the emotional range he's given to the character has been insane. It definitely elevated this season for me.
Yuto Uemura is awesome!!
Those screams were solid
0:37 his voice actor killed this! This whole season has been great.🥹
While he knocked out by his sister one punch
@@CZT70he wasn’t expecting her to punch him so he didn’t brace himself for the impact.
I love the change in tone in the Vikings before and after Thorfinn's beating. At first they were cheering and joking with Drott, but in the end, they were silent and I think started to respect Thorfinn.
The look in their eyes was respectful, its like they felt ashamed to make fun of him after seeing what a warrior he was
all warriors must respect Thorfinn after such a showing.
Agreeable. I love how symbolic this season is.
I'd imagine it must be a mix of respect and disbelief. They've never seen a person like Thorfinn before, the very concept of what he's doing must be baffling to them
I love this fact because Norse culture was exactly about that.
Respecting the strongest man, regardless of his position. He's the "true King" in a sense.
W season, W development, W scene, W Main Character. What a masterpiece
And even W antagonist
W comments
@@bestjojo251 there is no antagonist - probably thorfin
@@Sussyphis Canute is the obvious antagonist, he's exactly the opposite of Thorfinn
@@LuisSierra42 I think you didn't get the point. Thorfinn doesn't have enemies
The fact that Snake of all people wanted to genuinely intervene means more than a thousand’s words about Thorfinn’s spirit.
Snake cares about people, but feels obliged to live by his code (eye for an eye, etc). At every stage he's tried to minimise harm while abiding by his code (pausing Kettle's beating, staying to defend the farm(ers), etc). He's had respect for Thorfin since he first tried to cut him down, and that really grew when they fought.
@@n00b1n8RBest way I can put it (if you’re a Bible reader) is that Snake is Old Testament and Thorfinn is New Testament. He even says it when he’s reading Sverkel the New Testament 😂: “Can we read some of that earlier stuff? It’s more interesting.”
@@emmanuela7528 interesting interpretation. Thorfinn definitely has some Christian characteristics this season.
Thorfinn yelling with rage after sooooooooo much time was too epic I was about to die fr 🔥🔥🔥🔥😭😭😭😭
Bro sounded like he was screaming at Askeladd
@@dot98 exactly!
@@johns407but now he is using it for the right purpose.
i missed his passionate screams so much
Me too
They were all laughing at him at first but now they all fear and respect him.
What a badass. He didn’t even throw a single punch and everyone respected him at the end
Respect? Yes. Fear? No, Thorfinn wouldn't want that either.
It isn’t fear, it’s respect and admiration. Thorfinn showed determination only a warrior can show. That’s why they stood silent out of respect and admiration for someone who truly deserved to talk to the king.
It's almost like we're watching the same thing
He stood like his dad,Thorkell,tall like a giant defending his values as a true warrior,through peace. Awsome dialogue between Thorfinn and Canute aswell.
Some people really missed the whole purpose Vinland Saga is trying to show. A “True Warrior” isn’t someone who kills; it is someone who _endures_ and resists the temptation of resorting to violence.
Wrong. Sometimes you have to hurt to protect. It is the way the world functions. Vinland teaches you that before you get to the fighting stage, you MUST make an effort to create peace. This is the theme of the story. All these Vikings were just killing without even trying to talk it out and have a conversation.
@@Vortex_ICEcold Sometimes you do have to hurt, but it must be the absolute last resort, it is only after you've tried every other option that you must CHOOSE violence or not, just like Thorfinn said, how can I preach of peace while hurting others?
@@Vortex_ICEcold my friend the theme of the story is that war is pointless and it's unnecessary.
Facts….violence more times than not is the easy way out and Vinland saga does a good job showing that message especially during the Viking era where it’s considered honorable.
Someone who is capable of absolute destruction and ready to do that when needed but kept his sword not drawn. Preferring non-violence and kindness. Basically, a warrior in a garden. A True Warrior.
this is one of the best scenes of Vinland Saga. Snake's reaction is priceless, even though he knows nothing about Thorfin, he wants to save him
Snake is a real one. He fights for his subordinates, for the people that sheltered and fed him, and for those he genuinely likes. That is something I can respect.
Actually he know him since 4 years
What? Thorfinn and Snake know each other well, thorfinn has been on the farm for years and because he helps the old master often and Snake loves to hangout there they've gotten to know each other plenty.
Snake knows the quiet and kind side of Thorfinn and only saw a little bit of his warrior side towards the end of those four years. He's seen the peaceful part of Thorfinns life and never the hell he's been through and endured, so he knows him well, but not completely.
yea so epic he ate 100 punches gas fire litty
I really hope that Thorfinn wins best main character at the anime awards, he absolutely deserves it
Edit: "I have no awards"
Too bad its probably gonna go to the MHA/Demon Slayer characters but who knows, we might be surprised.
Yeah because Luffy and Eren play Golf
When will the anime awards come
eren > thorfinn by a mile
@@winston7055It’s your opinion but how dude
i never seen such a epic scene with a man that never fought back while enduring 100 punches.
Not 100 punches, but the Tyler Durden beating is also pretty cool
The farmland arc is a piece of art.
@@integralcialbay4633 it is 100
I thing that keeps bugging my mind . What if those vikings weren’t true to their words . He would have got beaten for nothing
@@sisirbasnet367 i don't think anyone would be willing to mess with a guy that lasted 100 punches from a giant
Best character development I've ever seen.
Thorfinn really went from an innocent kid to a killing machine to absolutely dead inside to a true warrior.
You can see just how far he's come just by the fact that he's capable of emotions again, at the start of this season he'd stand there getting sliced to bits and barely say a word, now he's able to get angry and yell at someone for taking up his time yet he's able to control that anger and not let it fly out of control like he used to in the past, he's taken all of his past experiences and put them together to become the person Thors knew he could be.
Great comment
Define true warrior.
@@sampatkalyan3103 they have no enemies
@@critterchamber lol that is not true warrior.
That statement can't be achieved.
What do you mean by having no enemies.
Is not anger, greed etc are not enemies of a true warrior.
If these are not enemies of true warrior then he is not a warrior.
@@sampatkalyan3103 Ok how exactly is someone supposed to answer that question in a world governed by rules made specifically to avoid situations where warriors or soldiers are created?
Thank you Thorfinn for being a such a good role model for the younger me. And thanks to everyone that helped create this beautiful character for bringing him to life.
He has finally achieved the strength that his father, and in a way Askeladd, was trying to impart to him when he was a young lad. To breakaway from his Nordic roots and its ideals that "Fighting = Strength".
In a way but I'm not sure this is what Thors truly intended, I hope Thorfinn developes past pacifism this extreme into something more long lived. It is noble but in a way not that different from Canute's power over the sea
@@laavo3754agreed. It’s not practical enough to keep him, and who he cares about alive.
@@laavo3754 you are in for a treat
@@adarsh9436 bro common u left me hanging more than this episode saying that line ! man'
@@filiciaous Haha. I meant to say that his initial idea of extreme pacifism does get challenged throughout the story and he does get to a point where he knows when to fight, how to fight. and when to not. Don't get too caught up in the details and enjoy them as they come, Vinland Saga is a life changing story. Just trust in Goatfinn 🐐
Just give Thorfinn the best main character of 2023 award at this point 😤
Sometimes no matter what your going through it's about resolve & sometimes you got to endure to make it through
Preach Brother 🙌
I didn't think of this that way...
That’s the “true battle” indeed
This Episode was so beautiful and meaningful. Witnessing the, "I don't have any Enemies..." Was easily one of the best written scenes to ever be made. ❤💯
The greatest anime. This is the definition of peak writing and storytelling. Thorfinn is simply the greatest protagonist to exist
Stares in Luffy and Echiro Oda
@@billcutting2681 opinion based, i prefer luffy too but objectively peoole might say throfinn is better.
@@LiebeLeuchten I'd day it's in the same realm but Def not better. Definitely better than 4 outta 5 others
@@billcutting2681nah Luffy is good but he’s no different from hella other protagonist. Thorfinn stands out and is more realistic
@@-KNG-02 I think the differences are very depending on which one you want to lay him against as one of the earliest theyre based off him anyway except for the few great ones before him so there's that as well the show being wore realistic is the only plus that I give it over one piece everything else it takes a close top five spot
All vikings just stood there silently is the best part
sign of respect
Especially since we saw them laugh at Thorfinn earlier. Well they ain't laughing now.
can we take a moment to appreciate the voice actor of thorfinn ?
this man give me chills all over my body
WHOS his actor ?
@@rvrilYuuto Uemura
@@rvril They made this thing called google it’s crazy
@@unyieldingrage1389yeah, god forgive if someone dares to ask another person for information in the age of google
He really deserves the best male seiyuu award this year in my opinion. The nightmare scene with him crying and apologizing to the people he killed gave me chills
Thorfinn is the embodiment of character development
LOL
@@sampatkalyan3103 ?
@@dxov1597 all the thorfinnsexuals in comments astounding.
@@sampatkalyan3103 you need actual help. It’s a fake character lol
@@sampatkalyan3103bro after seeing him in the finale I’m a thorfinnsexual
After Thorfinn withstanding 100 punches, I was expecting Drott (the red-haired guy with eyepatch) to go completely nuts. I'm surprised we wasn't a sore loser and even acknowledged Thorfinn's strength afterwards. It makes everything so more powerful.
After all Drott himself is elite within the elites, we are talking jomsvikings here
He became what his father wanted him to be, a true warrior.
i love how the old thorfinn full of anger and determination comes through at 00:18 it gave me chills
This moment is epic.
Hope we also get the "I have no enemies" moment
we did, it was epic
“ I’m a busy man, People are waiting on Me “ Such ah Badass Line😭
Edit: MOMMA IM FAMOUS
Thorfinn is such an amaizing and well written main character. Great job, Yukimura. 🐐🔥
I’m waiting until he sees his mother and sister again. I can only imagine how much they miss Thorfinn after all this time ❤️
Yes bro agree
Thorfinn is too great. I just can’t express how much I respect him
@@christopherross8976me too. Especially when his mother sees him for the first time in such a long while. And her interaction with Einar.
Those parts brought a tear to my eyes. Just pure, simple and beautiful love.
The attention to detail with characters' eyes in this anime is something else. The way they change as each character experiences more and more, as they get more inspired by whatever ideals they cling to, and the darkness that fills them whenever they seem to embody just that: darkness.
But when Thorfinn calls out Grott in this scene, his gaze has this strength to it that we've only ever seen in characters like Thorkell and Askeladd. As this show makes very clear, strength isn't everything; what you apply that strength to is what matters. Why this scene is so chill-inducing for me is because we are seeing Thorfinn fully embrace the ideals of his father with the strength of Thorkell, and THAT is something worthy of the clear, silent inspiration of the Vikings around him.
What a foreshadowing.......'People are waiting for me.' The people Thorfinn's gonna save and bring to Vinland....such a masterpiece😮
0:40 Thorfinn's "don't f...k with me" stare is pure Askeladd🔥
Bro u cant think this is badass xd
With that Line "People are waiting for me" and also the furious Look from Thorfinn (@0:33) signalizes Drott and the other Wikings, that they stand in front of a True Warrior.
Thorfinn's yells and endurance made me shed a few tears. This is the second time VInland Saga has done this to me. I have never seen a better story than this. Thank you Yukimura for changing my life to a more peaceful one.
There are just so many things I love about this scene, Throfinn’s rage finally vocalizing once more, yet this time in demand of protection instead of destruction, Snake’s portraying both concern and admiration towards Thorfinn, Einar’s understanding that Thorfinn had made up his mind thus asking Snake to not interfere but yet not being able to look him in the eye cause he didn’t even have the guts like Thorfinn did, Olmar’s admiration towards Thorfinn as he saw him fight without actually fighting, the silence of the Vikings showing respect and my oh my that last punch from Drott admitted admiration and defeat, all in just 2 minutes, this is both great writing and great animation, love to see it
Thorfinn really goes to show you can be a powerful main character who never has to throw a punch, he won every Vikings respect after that incredible scene
The way his voice changed back to warrior Thorfinn was epic
I love how this arc ends, not in a big battle. But just a man who has seen the endless cycle of violence and wants to end it by enduring pain.
What I love about this season is that it’s emotional and funny. Thorfinn ate all those punches but when it came to his sister she knocked him out cold with one punched.
"It isn't about how hard you can hit, it's about how you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward."
is that from rocky ?
THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE.
@@FZJanimated yes
Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It’s a very mean and nasty place, and I don’t care how tough you are; it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody will hit as hard as life, but it aint about how hard you hit, it’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. Now if you know what you’re worth, then go out and get what you’re worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers saying you ain’t where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and that ain’t you! You’re better than that!
Where's that from?
This whole scene made me tear up again watching it. The silence, the faces of the vikings..honestly this scene is emotionally breathtaking.
0:08 that soundtrack, that atmosphere, that voice acting, I never tire of seeing this scene because it is very epic
Which soundtrack is it?
"Thorfinn, Son of Thors... I'm sorry I doubted you. You are a true warrior!"
It sucks this video skipped THAT very part, the single best part of the whole scene.
This shows how much Crunchyroll sucks. They had one job. ONE JOB.
By the end of it no one was laughing or making jokes. Every one of them stood in respectful silence admiring his tenacity. They looked at him as a true warrior who was tougher than all of them.
What's so great about this scene that may go unnoticed is that Thorfinn switches back to a rough/Nordic/viking dialect and speech patterns, where as previously he had a polite, subservient way of speaking. All of the surrounding vikings recognize him as what he says to be after hearing this tone switch, which leaves them shocked.
Ah yes, the only main character who could be badass and win by letting himself get jumped. Respect.
Peakland Saga needs a third season!!!!
“It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!”
Thorfinn watched Rocky.
Title correction: Drott’s fist survives 100 impacts against Thorfinn’s face
Man how much i missed hearing thorfinn yelling at people
This entire episode of Vinland Saga was just incredible. It's quite possibly the best episode I've seen of any anime in this entire spring season. Almost everything in this episode was great in my opinion.
- The Vikings even Drott (who later apologised) having respect for Thorfinn as a true warrior.
- Thorfinn finally saying the words his father Thors (and even us viewers) wanted him to say and believe in all this time.
- Olmar admiring Thorfinn's determination and strength to fight for Ketil's farm without any violence.
- Einar showing us the pain of an average person getting caught in the violence caused by ideals of people like Canute.
- Canute's revealing his true ideals on how he will make his version of "Paradise" on earth.
For anyone wondering, the track in the OST is called "Fire".
I really like that every soldier is silent and is paying his respect for Thorfinn with this gesture.
This episode is so well done . Thorfinn is so freaking good in this season 👑👑👑 . I can't wait to watch the next episode .
What a great anime moment, Thorfin is showing if you have a strong spirit/resolve, you can endure anything.
When Olmar started crying that nearly got me 😞😢
Olmar admiration level went over 9000 and can you even blame him?
@@sahar3820 Yeah without a shadow of a doubt. Peak Character Development, that part was so well made it really created Thorfinn... "Becoming A True Warrior." Simply beautiful.
My boy got up and said "Who said we were done? I didn't hear no bell!"
You can tune a piano but you can’t tunafish
Olmar realized he was was witnessing the actions of a real man and a possible way in how he should have handled things when the kings men were mocking him
Why do people post obvious stuff on UA-cam lol
Vinland Saga is peak anime
We're lucky we're getting an adaption this good
What having no enemies does to a mf:
ive seen this clip idk how many times hahahaha so epic
This whole season needs to have a separate section in the Anime Hall of Fame. Anger, emptiness, happiness, sadness, relief, violence, friendship, respect. It literally had everything. Thank you Mappa and Yukimura for this masterpiece.
This episode is a masterpiece in my eyes. I loved every bit of it.
This is a series which actually everyone should watch. It depicted how important peace is and how strong kindness and gentleness truly are. Really a masterpiece, a real gem.
Love hearing the volatile little punk come out of him (right down to the scoffs and hair-based name-calling) and manifest into a relentless and righteous determination. His old self is still in there, but he’s learned to use those traits and behaviours which once ruined lives to now give him the drive to save lives.
Thorfinn went from being a character that I disliked, to my favourite in anime and in a realistic way. Impressive writing
That silence was that respect
A true warrior!!!
0:18 This shows that thorfinn still got that DAWG in him.
Olmar has witnessed the most positive form of masculinity in contrast with his brother. Glad to see his development as well.
People calling Season 2 boring or mid are just dumb.Thorfinn gonna be the Goat Anime Protagonist by the end of the Anime
Everyone just stopped betting and stayed 🗿
After a long time we witness the same rage and intensity from Thorfinn in Season 2 similar to Season 1... Finally Thorfinn, son of Thors became a true warrior. ❤️🔥
But it's different because it's not blind range. He's channeling his conviction
The character development in this show in mind blowing
This was such a powerful moment in a series full of them. Was very gratifying to experience it fully animated.
When the soldiers went silent, I felt the the respect for Throfin, and that last punch came with respect
One of the most epic moments ive ever seen
I meant to say legendary
Man this anime taught us so much about life.......... that character development is the best i have seen
The goosebumps I got from this.. damn near cried beautiful
Vinland saga quickly became one of the best in anime history, peak writing.
This made me tear up this man is a true warrior he has come a long way !!! ❤ I truly love this anime peak !!!!
you have no idea how proud i am of thorfinn. he comes a long way.
this entire episode was unreal.
You can feel the respect for Thorfinn growing in the crowd
Thorfinns VA was killing it. Season 1 vibes
He has killed it all season
What is the name of the soundtrack here 0:10 ?
I wanna know lmk if u find out
me too
Damn...Still nothing i listened to entire season 1 soundtrack didnt find it..Its probably in second seasons ost.
Bro is a busy man! Leif, the boys, and his fam are waiting.
Damn. 🔥🔥🔥
ANIME OF THE YEAR THE SPEECHES EVERYONE WAS SO POWERFUL EINAR SPEECH PLEEEEEEASE POST IT
thank you for blessing us with peak every monday Vinland Saga.
Yeah, I was there.
I was there when that lad got beaten to a pulp, and kept on standing. We were all laughing at the start, some farm hand coming to beg for the lives of those poor souls we planned to slaughter. I wanted to speak with a king. Ha, as if we would let some young man do it. So we made that bet, a bet we thought he had no way of winning. A hundred punches for an audience with the king and if he failed he would die. We all laughed, had fun, made bets. This kid would die, we all knew it so we thought nothing of it. Drott was no joke, and he was so mad before it started. There was no way he could lose. Thirty two was the count when he finally fell. We all that it was over and done, but I watched that young man stand back up. I watched as he looked at Drott and scolded him for stopping. That young man SCOLDED him! I was on the wrong side to see, but something happened to the men after that. Those that saw his face. They were much more quiet after that. I wish I had seen it.
Forty.
People were getting frustrated, that farm hand just wouldn't give up. Wouldn't beg for his life. More people were silent now, those that saw his face seemed more quiet, or more angry.
Fifty.
Anger was taking hold. Why wasn't he giving up? People were yelling at Drott. Yelling at him, thinking he was going easy on the lad. I was even one of them. I mean the lad had gotten half way there! There was no way he would survive the full hundred.
Sixty.
The anger had boiled by this point. Some were seething, other were cursing out Drott. I was cursing under my breath at this point. Drott was practically giving it up.
Seventy.
The anger had seemed to had fizzled out as fast as it came. One by one so many were falling silent. At this point I too had fallen silent. No, Drott had not been holding back. The silence only told, the sound of those blows. He was serious.
Eighty.
So many had gotten quiet. No one was talking loudly anymore. There were whispers but everyone was watching. I finally learned what the others had seen. What those had finally seen his face knew. I was stunned.
Ninety.
This was no farm hand. This wasn't someone who had spent their life on a farm. No one could have taken that many hits and just kept going like that. Everyone was silent. Everyone was giving this young man the respect he had earned. Even if he didn't make the full hundred. There was no denying what we were seeing.
Hundred.
This young man was a warrior. Braver then most I have met, and most I had met after. He had won. He hadn't raised his fist once, he hadn't struck back, or tried to defend himself. I don't know what that young man had seen, the battles he had been in or the people he had slaughtered but no one there could deny the conviction of that young man. Thorfinn, son of Thors. I will never forgot that young man. What he showed me that day. I wonder what he is doing now. What battle awaits him. Ah, I need to get going. I'm in charge of watch next. Hey lad, keep that chin up eh? Who knows, maybe you'll turn out brave like him one day.
If this aint winning anime of the year and best MC of the year then crunchyroll is joking
It'd be a well-deserved win.
Que maldita obra de arte, no quiero que acabe esta temporada de Vinland :(
This is one of my favourite eps
Out of all the anime’s I’ve seen personally I think this is one of the greatest storytelling anime’s ever. Even more so than Naruto because Thorfin was on his own he killed so many and had to cope with his grief and regrets to discover the true meaning of being a warrior. This anime deserves all the respect.
He actually doesn't have enemies.
Thorfinn: Why are you just standing there, *middle part* ?!
Me: great goatfinn disproves my haircut now I gotta change it T_T
bro don't be offended, I'm sure after all those punches he was confused for a moment 😂
Jesus turned the other cheek. Thorfinn took that personally.
Thorfinn is jesus bro
Ong
he gave me Jesus vibes for sure