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I'd like to hear the sound test when the 12.2 have loosened up. Not sure if it is my ears but the Linton's sounded the worse of the three tested. Thanks.
likewise. I thought the 220 sounded the best and i wasn't expecting that. It was the expressiveness in the treble and the overall tone that clinched it for me.
I have tried lots of speakers , and my biggest disappointment ever is buchards S300 and the wharfedale linton85. I have owned the 12,2 too and it's a great speaker to the price
I think the 220,s actually sounded more forward and clean in the mid range and preferred the sound , I'm listening on mission qx2's which I got open box for £200 ish, you should try them if you get the chance, build quality is unbeatable for the price and they get lower and play beautifully at lower volumes too, I'm just down the road from you near Peterlee by the sound of your accent, love the craic
Had the 225s and I own the 12.2s. The top end of the 12.2s are already on the bright side, the 225s even brighter. Although being the brighter speaker, the 225s are not as detailed as the 12.2s. The 12.2's detail retrieval capability is a league or 2 up on the 225s. Midrange on the 225s can be almost too forward at times depending on the recording, especially with female vocals while the 12.2 is just right. The 12.2 also has a more tactile bass and goes lower when called for, the 225's bass can sound muffled in comparison. And dont forget the cabinet too, the 12.2 has a way sturdier build. I personally find the 12.2 to be superior in most ways. Imaging is another great aspect of the 12.2s, pinpoint and almost laser sharp. Soundstage width could be wider though.The 12.2 and the Lintons are more neutral speakers as we can all hear in the comparison section, the 220 stood out with the brightness and that will make most people go for it instead of the 12.2 or Lintons (going by the vid).
Have you considered the Denton 80th's at all. I found the 12.2s a little sharp too at the top. But im finding the lower mids lack a tad, maybe explains the more concentrated highs. Plenty of bass though, cant argue there. Just wonder if im missing out an 'all rounder' which is a possibilty with the 80's. ..
Man, I immediately felt A was the best sounding speaker. B sounded too bright to me. The cymbals sounded almost shrill. And C sounded too muffled. Too much low end without enough mids and highs. So I was happy to find out that A was the speaker I was already considering buying.
I use the 220's with an active subwoofer , which is matched by using one of those " Test" Cds and my imperfect ears .... The Sub is a Pioneer ... Compared to my Older Floor standing Mission 752 ... rather nice . Both Speaker systems are great but the 220/ Sub are more compact and quite punchy The Midrange is very good , Treble polite and non fatiguing I was thinking of getting the 12.2 , I suspect there is not enough to make a difference.
With YT 4K, the best sound is B. In the room, must be C but you still have a problem with the bass. Linton's need more space on the walls and to improve the furniture internally so that it resonates less (at the bottom: three reinforcements). First I would try to plug the rear bass-reflex and enhance the bass with EQ.
Ohhhh tricky this one, I did get all three right before you showed them. Lintons were an easy spot and were my fav, however I am not sure which one of the other two i like. I own a pair of 220 although they are in the loft at the moment, they really do treble and mid range really well, however they are a speaker you proper have to crank up a bit to get the best out of them. Now like you I thought the 12.2 had better bass for sure, but I personally can't do cloudy mid range, I reckon the 12.2 may need a fair bit of space behind them to sort out the mid range. I think this one is gonna be a personal preference/room size rather a better speaker. I am gonna choose the 220 for the mid range. In my listening room the speakers have to be quite close to the wall so would be interesteing to see how the 12.2 they would sound in mine. Another great vid keep erm comming.
Ridged for your pleasure 😂 Enjoyed the comparison. To me, there’s simply something special about the 200 series. I have the 220s & the 225s, and love the sound of them. The 225s are where it’s at! They hit that Sweet Spot in small to medium size rooms. I have been considering the Lintons, but now concerned they might be too big for my space. The Super Dentons are now tempting me. I’d be love to see your experience with them if you ever get a chance. I’ve gone British with my speakers and amp and love listening to my music.🎶 👍🏼😎
@@UTILITARIANTVUK That would be cool if possible. I’d like to see what your thoughts are compared to the 12.2. I personally love the Wharfedale speakers. Quality at reasonable price. I like the way they sound. What else matters? I got my 225s as open-box for $249. Same price for the 220s new. I’m curious if you would sell the 225s once you own them. They’re not the Lintons, but it’s special in its own right. Really enjoy your videos friend. You make it fun. Cool approach. Thanks! 🎶😎👍🏼
I got the 12.2 whalfdale low down on floor facing up and Dali Spektor 2 at ear height. I love it! driven by a Yamaha r-s2020.Under £1000.wire cables and Bannana.s the lot,Rattles windows. No SUB.😛
Always hear 7x7x7 feet near sound, in my smaller living room (about 20 square meters), with super attenuation, good equipment, two Rel t5x, in a nice setup. 6.5" is big in my little two way world. Only the Lowther Bicor 1000, Zu Audio Cube mkii and B&W 705 Signature are the only ones left here in the collection, despite their woofer size. Got a set of 12.1 used for a good price and must admit I am impressed... Love small budget, vintage and mid end speakers. Have over 30 sets, with the new Børresen X1 as absolute number one here.
Wharfdale are now doing a build your own! Not sure where you get the cabinets from (carpenter?) but that’s an exciting prospect. All sounded as you described here and agree Lintons are a very good listen!
Nice video. Just this morning my new wharfedale diamond 9.1's arrived (yes you can still get them). My plan is to do a crossover upgrade to them, apparently their pretty good.
Top end HF presence just vanished with the Lintons, I expect that's why they are deemed really good for modern recordings/music which can sound 'harsh' on some very detailed sounding speakers. I believe there is a Xover upgrade to bring the Linton tweeter to life! It's the only thing that has stopped me buying the new Linton 85.....can I live with the reduced HF detail? I too have a Marantz amp, Marantz are well known for warm sounding amps and just not sure my PM8006 will be a good match with a Linton?
You should try a second hand pair of Jamo Pro 400ex loudspeakers if you can get a mint condition pair as these three way beauties sound sweet and have better bass than the Lintons. 🙂
The Lintons sound little different from the 1970 Linton II. Overblown boomy bass, lacking definition. Middle and top sound like they have wooly socks in front of them. The old Lintons did at least have some clarity in the midrange.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK By the way, I found yesterday Quad 11L bookshelf's speakers at FB market and went to listen them, they are Very detailed and surprisingly they have a very good bass for they're size, in the end I did not bought them as there was imperfection on the outer box. but if you find some QUAD or EPOS in your location take them !!!
Mate I am 79 yrs old the bottom line is mid range and high frequencies are easy to produce mid range with a 😮 5 inch speaker is fine bass is a different ball 10:25 game you need a Rel does not have to be too expensive and if you got the a 45 watt amp thats all you need. I have been in this game for many years however there is nothing like live sound go and sit in a cathedral and listen to a church organ you will appreciate what no speaker can produce
They all sound decent, but the Lintons.........my goodness......just 'Deal Me In'! (By the way, was it you singing while unboxing the speakers, because it scared the shit out of my cats and they are never coming back...)
@@UTILITARIANTVUK My usual tactic is to do that and set them up in my studio. When she walks in, she often doesn't spot them, because I have six pairs in here, but she WILL with these, because they're white. So then I say, "Yes, love of my life... but I am going to sell THESE brown ones over here now" (and sometimes, I keep my word 🥴)
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I'd like to hear the sound test when the 12.2 have loosened up. Not sure if it is my ears but the Linton's sounded the worse of the three tested. Thanks.
likewise. I thought the 220 sounded the best and i wasn't expecting that. It was the expressiveness in the treble and the overall tone that clinched it for me.
The 12.2 do mature and the bass gets more confident after a few weeks of regular use.
I have tried lots of speakers , and my biggest disappointment ever is buchards S300 and the wharfedale linton85. I have owned the 12,2 too and it's a great speaker to the price
It was B for me. Love that detail that the 220 brings. Add in a sub and you would have a killer 2.1 combo 🥊
Agree 100 %
Ditto. I thought the 220 sounded the best. Linton was the worst by a country mile
I found B bright and shrill. It was especially obvious if you listened to the cymbals.
I think the 220,s actually sounded more forward and clean in the mid range and preferred the sound , I'm listening on mission qx2's which I got open box for £200 ish, you should try them if you get the chance, build quality is unbeatable for the price and they get lower and play beautifully at lower volumes too, I'm just down the road from you near Peterlee by the sound of your accent, love the craic
Had the 225s and I own the 12.2s. The top end of the 12.2s are already on the bright side, the 225s even brighter. Although being the brighter speaker, the 225s are not as detailed as the 12.2s. The 12.2's detail retrieval capability is a league or 2 up on the 225s. Midrange on the 225s can be almost too forward at times depending on the recording, especially with female vocals while the 12.2 is just right. The 12.2 also has a more tactile bass and goes lower when called for, the 225's bass can sound muffled in comparison. And dont forget the cabinet too, the 12.2 has a way sturdier build. I personally find the 12.2 to be superior in most ways. Imaging is another great aspect of the 12.2s, pinpoint and almost laser sharp. Soundstage width could be wider though.The 12.2 and the Lintons are more neutral speakers as we can all hear in the comparison section, the 220 stood out with the brightness and that will make most people go for it instead of the 12.2 or Lintons (going by the vid).
Have you considered the Denton 80th's at all. I found the 12.2s a little sharp too at the top. But im finding the lower mids lack a tad, maybe explains the more concentrated highs. Plenty of bass though, cant argue there. Just wonder if im missing out an 'all rounder' which is a possibilty with the 80's. ..
Man, I immediately felt A was the best sounding speaker. B sounded too bright to me. The cymbals sounded almost shrill. And C sounded too muffled. Too much low end without enough mids and highs. So I was happy to find out that A was the speaker I was already considering buying.
@UTILITARIANTVUK Well "B" for me is the best. By the way A is 12.2 and not 12.1 as you wrote in the video
I use the 220's with an active subwoofer , which is matched by using one of those " Test" Cds and my imperfect ears .... The Sub is a Pioneer ... Compared to my Older Floor standing Mission 752 ... rather nice .
Both Speaker systems are great but the 220/ Sub are more compact and quite punchy
The Midrange is very good , Treble polite and non fatiguing
I was thinking of getting the 12.2 , I suspect there is not enough to make a difference.
With YT 4K, the best sound is B.
In the room, must be C but you still have a problem with the bass. Linton's need more space on the walls and to improve the furniture internally so that it resonates less (at the bottom: three reinforcements). First I would try to plug the rear bass-reflex and enhance the bass with EQ.
I don't think the recording mic can handle the bass of the Lintons. In room with my own ears, they sound great!
Ohhhh tricky this one, I did get all three right before you showed them. Lintons were an easy spot and were my fav, however I am not sure which one of the other two i like. I own a pair of 220 although they are in the loft at the moment, they really do treble and mid range really well, however they are a speaker you proper have to crank up a bit to get the best out of them. Now like you I thought the 12.2 had better bass for sure, but I personally can't do cloudy mid range, I reckon the 12.2 may need a fair bit of space behind them to sort out the mid range. I think this one is gonna be a personal preference/room size rather a better speaker. I am gonna choose the 220 for the mid range. In my listening room the speakers have to be quite close to the wall so would be interesteing to see how the 12.2 they would sound in mine. Another great vid keep erm comming.
Excellent midrange on the 220 model.
Ridged for your pleasure 😂 Enjoyed the comparison. To me, there’s simply something special about the 200 series. I have the 220s & the 225s, and love the sound of them. The 225s are where it’s at! They hit that Sweet Spot in small to medium size rooms. I have been considering the Lintons, but now concerned they might be too big for my space. The Super Dentons are now tempting me. I’d be love to see your experience with them if you ever get a chance. I’ve gone British with my speakers and amp and love listening to my music.🎶 👍🏼😎
Yeah, I may try and get hold of a set of 225s for a comparison. 👍
@@UTILITARIANTVUK That would be cool if possible. I’d like to see what your thoughts are compared to the 12.2. I personally love the Wharfedale speakers. Quality at reasonable price. I like the way they sound. What else matters? I got my 225s as open-box for $249. Same price for the 220s new. I’m curious if you would sell the 225s once you own them. They’re not the Lintons, but it’s special in its own right. Really enjoy your videos friend. You make it fun. Cool approach. Thanks! 🎶😎👍🏼
I got the 12.2 whalfdale low down on floor facing up and Dali Spektor 2 at ear height. I love it! driven by a Yamaha r-s2020.Under £1000.wire cables and Bannana.s the lot,Rattles windows. No SUB.😛
Always hear 7x7x7 feet near sound, in my smaller living room (about 20 square meters), with super attenuation, good equipment, two Rel t5x, in a nice setup.
6.5" is big in my little two way world.
Only the Lowther Bicor 1000, Zu Audio Cube mkii and B&W 705 Signature are the only ones left here in the collection, despite their woofer size.
Got a set of 12.1 used for a good price and must admit I am impressed...
Love small budget, vintage and mid end speakers.
Have over 30 sets, with the new Børresen X1 as absolute number one here.
Wharfdale are now doing a build your own! Not sure where you get the cabinets from (carpenter?) but that’s an exciting prospect. All sounded as you described here and agree Lintons are a very good listen!
Yeah I saw that on Darko Audio, looks interesting.
Nice video. Just this morning my new wharfedale diamond 9.1's arrived (yes you can still get them). My plan is to do a crossover upgrade to them, apparently their pretty good.
Not sure if you will see this. But months on, would you still recommend the 12.2?
Yes. I still have them and use them in a desk top set up.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you!!
A product that's even better than the three is "the unboxing": the best unboxing ever.
Top end HF presence just vanished with the Lintons, I expect that's why they are deemed really good for modern recordings/music which can sound 'harsh' on some very detailed sounding speakers. I believe there is a Xover upgrade to bring the Linton tweeter to life! It's the only thing that has stopped me buying the new Linton 85.....can I live with the reduced HF detail? I too have a Marantz amp, Marantz are well known for warm sounding amps and just not sure my PM8006 will be a good match with a Linton?
Interesting comparison -- the Lintons had more air/detail than I expected
Hello isn’tt, another great interesting video, I wonder how compares with b&w 606s2 anniversary. Regards mark
what stands are you using for the 12.2 that fit the top plate with the speaker right there?
These ua-cam.com/video/Jz5JyJl_g4U/v-deo.html
b not so much bass as a and c but sounds brighter and clearer
surprised me that there is so much bass from the 12.2 (you named them 12.1 when you revealed them) and that the 220 sounds bright
Hi. B for me. C was flat and too much bass. Overpowering the sound. B was clear and crisp with a decent bass. Cheers. Dave.
You should try a second hand pair of Jamo Pro 400ex loudspeakers if you can get a mint condition pair as these three way beauties sound sweet and have better bass than the Lintons. 🙂
I liked the warm sound of A best.
I just got mine last week brand new for 214€. Possibly the best deal in HiFi history.
Lindton bass very muddy,220 are best sounding
The Lintons sound little different from the 1970 Linton II.
Overblown boomy bass, lacking definition.
Middle and top sound like they have wooly socks in front of them.
The old Lintons did at least have some clarity in the midrange.
Like your hi fi cabinet. Where did you get it?
Ikea! www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/kallax-tv-bench-with-underframe-black-brown-s39552175/#content
Love the 'someones at the door' trick 😆👊😵
I wonder if the 225 is better than the 12.2.
I've had the same thought?
@@UTILITARIANTVUK By the way, I found yesterday Quad 11L bookshelf's speakers at FB market and went to listen them, they are Very detailed and surprisingly they have a very good bass for they're size, in the end I did not bought them as there was imperfection on the outer box. but if you find some QUAD or EPOS in your location take them !!!
To my ears they sound better.
B sounds best through my oberon 7's.. Cant be bothered to plug fyne audio f501 or musical fidelity mc2's. 😂😂
Great video. 👍
How are the F501's, they look a nice aesthetically?
Mate I am 79 yrs old the bottom line is mid range and high frequencies are easy to produce mid range with a 😮 5 inch speaker is fine bass is a different ball 10:25 game you need a Rel does not have to be too expensive and if you got the a 45 watt amp thats all you need. I have been in this game for many years however there is nothing like live sound go and sit in a cathedral and listen to a church organ you will appreciate what no speaker can produce
Great test. B for me.
A sounded best with B just behind
Definitely CBA for me. B & A sounded a bit flat.
You come for the jabs, you stay for the unboxing jingle😂
They all sound decent, but the Lintons.........my goodness......just 'Deal Me In'! (By the way, was it you singing while unboxing the speakers, because it scared the shit out of my cats and they are never coming back...)
It was, you can use it to keep cats out of your garden! 😄
@@UTILITARIANTVUK 🙂 Some day I'm gonna buy the Lintons, I'm waiting for them to be on sale...
@@AlexanderG-mi7ipdon't do it, I buy them and now after two months I sold them again, not a good speaker
Prefiero B
Very funny port hole …..nice
C little deeper bass wise my per headphones
B for me
220 is great
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B,C,A
5:59 hahahahahahahahaha 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
Theses aren’t well made. Made as cheap as possible
3rd
1st
I confidently predict "Doing An Unboxing" is going to be a worldwide musical smash. Please let your fans know when we can buy it. 🤩🤣
I am currently in talks with Universal Music Group. I'm looking to be the support act for Taylor Swift! 😄
@@UTILITARIANTVUK By the way, I'm just waiting for the van to pull up with my KEF Q150s (hoping that the wife won't see 🙄
@@RichardLamploughPlanetUnknown Get them unboxed quick! 😄
@@UTILITARIANTVUK My usual tactic is to do that and set them up in my studio. When she walks in, she often doesn't spot them, because I have six pairs in here, but she WILL with these, because they're white. So then I say, "Yes, love of my life... but I am going to sell THESE brown ones over here now" (and sometimes, I keep my word 🥴)