Everything is about money. You think the grid is immune to this? Vaccines, cars, buildings, planes, all have acceptable probabilities of failure. If each of these were really built bulletproof, you wouldn't be able to afford any of them.
Why wasn't the problem fixed in 2011? They had plenty of time ..Texans need to speak up hold the officials accountable. Always about money,greed this will take years to fix..insurance claims someone from state farm said already have 3800 claims
@K MB I agree. Texas' grid is optimized to handle demand spikes in summer, not lengthy demand spikes in winter. You are also correct about northern states. When I lived in Boston, one summer the heat and humidity hit unusual levels (almost 100 degrees and 90+% humidity) for several weeks. Power failed for more than a week, because the power company never expected Boston to experience those conditions.
quite simple the Texas grid is unregulated, the companies in charge of it do not have to winterise or have power grid redundancy or hardening, so ....... they don't, why waste money that could go into a CEO's pokets or into investors dividends on something as trivial as safties for working people ......
@@minniemaeshufflebutt116 Speaking from my profession, it's a LOT cleaner than oil, as I've worked in the oil industry for 4 years and 7 years welding wind towers. But h e l l what do I know...
System should've been updated in the 90's-2000's!! I worked on the SubStation Grids in the late 90's-2000's, it's all about Politics & Money, not the People!!
California is now unable to perform even basic functions of civilization, like having reliable electricity. Biden/Harris/AOC want to make CA’s failed energy policy the standard nationwide. Hope you don’t like air conditioning! Ted Cruz tweet: Aug. 19, 2020
@Kal - El I mean, of course they didn't winterize, this is a once in a century blackout and Texas energy is cheap for a reason, the real problem is biomass plants like the one in austin weren't operating, and that would've dramatically helped. Also, don't act like Texas is the only state with corrupt politicians. What were they supposed to do? I think ERCOT should be held accountable, but you can't just say republican bad and think that paints to any solutions. Also people argue because so much money went to subsidizing wind, there wasn't enough money to invest in natural gas infrastructure. But I do this this ECROT CEO should be sent packing. Garbage job. Did he really not think snow has an impact?
@Kal - El While I don't personally care much for Ted Cruz, I certainly care a lot less for liberal politicians like AOC, who lied about the Capitol Riots and continually plays the "Victim" card. America needs leadership from those not affiliated with either Party. It divides us far more than it unites us.
As a Mechanical Technician the concept of PM (preventative maintenance) is foundational & fundamental. It’s unbelievable that a basic maintenance concept was overlooked AGAIN because 💲💲💲💲💲for StockHolders & ShareHolders is the prime focus
he's basically saying "dont blame me for not having a backup system or emergency capacity or any of the other things we knew years ago that we would need"
So many Texans are in desperate conditions without heat, water, and little relief. Gov. Abbott needs to get off TV pointing fingers & start helping people. After that, he needs to read a book on his own state’s energy supply. I’ll be prepping TX relief emails if he needs help.
@@michelleflynn9725 Ya he is worried about his job. Actually he is waiting for the runways to clear before he takes his private jet to the Grand Cayman Islands, He is rich he won't pay and Texan's gave it to him! I feel truly for the sea turtles!!!!
It would be monumentally stupid to turn off power in the power grid control center. That would immediately kill power to the entire state... I suppose they could turn off the heater in solidarity or something but really?
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Wind turbines did fail... at a higher rate than traditional power methods. To ignore that is bs. It should absolutely be addressed and discussed and not just swept under the rug. There is plenty of blame to go around, but just because we like a certain type of energy production, doesn't mean we shouldn't be critical of it's failures or rather our failure to implement it.
@@TheNolimitcity Because Texas refused to winterize them as they had been admonished to do for over ten years. Problems? Talk to Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, northern states.
@@renecurry6551 Exactly. Wind turbines have been around for centuries and work just fine if properly equipped and maintained. The GOP just sees them as a cheap way to, yet again, avoid responsibility and blame all their problems on liberals.
Don't you love how this guy mentions wind turbines seizing up first and not how the gas to generate power at power plants is the biggest issue? I know he gets there eventually, but the primary focus on renewables as the issue is laughable. Biased. Also, Texas doesn't winterize any of its stuff, there's your problem. They took that risk, and maybe understandably so, but then stop the complaining and gaslighting now that the worst has happened. This isn't rocket science. The Gov needing an investigation into the obvious is disingenuous. This outcome isn't a bug, the risks were designed this way - it's a feature.
that was obama's mess. obama closed down a lot of badly needed coal power plants. every body knew in very cold winter nat gas could not heat homes and make power at the same time. it was a very stupid idea
@@dcan5012 But, we knew the cold weather was coming but he never prepared for it nor he never had a plan B. He is full of excuses. No one is saying his job is easy but that is why he is getting paid well. If he cannot get the job done, he needs to be fired. That is how jobs work.
yep, and your population also doesn't depend on electrical heating, in badly insulated houses. That "Tex-nones insulation" also waste gigawatts of AC energy during summer.
California is now unable to perform even basic functions of civilization, like having reliable electricity. Biden/Harris/AOC want to make CA’s failed energy policy the standard nationwide. Hope you don’t like air conditioning! Ted Cruz tweet: Aug. 19, 2020
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 my wife got mad at me last night while we were making love, because I told her I was feeling like jesus, she asked why? and I told her I was ready for my second cumming! XD by the way you forgot to add -selling guns to the list.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Florida every hurricane season. People during from generator exhaust and electrocuted from trying wire it in their homes etc. it happens. Invest in your infrastructure instead of in football stadiums
Republicans won’t let investments into our infrastructure. It would make it harder to give billionaires another tax cut. Our Brave Billionaires need more tax cuts. Those of us who are not rich are poor because gawd hates us, and is punishing us with poverty. Facts.
Weasel Talk! "It's not my responsibility." He knows damn good and well that the gas powered sources were the major cause of the problem not wind generators.
exactly GaryGrumble💯wind turbines are only 10% of the energy grid in Texas right now there's what about 90% failure(with 100% being no electricity at all)what can we do to help you guys
He's no more responsible than air traffic control is responsible for a fleet of broken aircraft. In that case you would blame the airline, not air traffic control, do why are you blaming ercot and not the equipment owner?
In 2011 they were informed that they needed to insulate and update the grid system and instead they chose not to to save money on their systems so it's not like didn't know this was coming
@@DEATHxD3ALER Funny. we had worse freezes in the 90s, and this didn't happen. and we have had freezes since the supposed warning in 2011, this did not happen then either. So, if you are right. Why didn't it happen then? I was here. it was colder, and it didn't happen. However. ERCOT, did not have real time control of the grid until December 2010. maybe this is just ERCOT being overzealous with the blackouts to save money (risk management estimate factor).
@@Chris-tn4js Yeah I'm pretty sure the rolling thing was just an out an excuse to cover the real story that they didn't make upgrades and winterize the grid like they should have in the first place and again that fall's on the government of Texas for not holding the company's to account or what's the word I'm looking for........... Regulating.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
ERCOT’s authority is simply to call up generators or transmission lines when the forecasts call for it. If an individual utility is not able to answer the call, it’s not ERCOT’s fault.
Ya law suits!!!! And you will find this guy in the Grand Cayman Islands landing in his private jet. But Never fear Texans!!!! You still have your guns!!!!! How does that saying go? Oh ya "I will give up my guns when you ply them from my FROZEN hands!!!!!!!" ENJOY!!!!! tRump forever!!!!! Go Republicans!!!!!
Look up attorney Tom, he just posted a video with legal stuff explaining that they gave Ercot immunity from personal suits, so so much for alot of people forced to suffer for this
Definitely a major Law suit coming, this is absolutely crazy! They need to go in the national grid because obviously they're not capable of doing this independently.
OHIO HAS A LOT OF COAL POWER plants and some nuclear power plants. ohio is also in the eastern power grid and can buy power from other states. Texas cant but much power from any one
@@dknowles60 that’s the problem you idiot. texas chose to disconnect from the national grid so that they could deregulate and save money for the owners. It has nothing to do with the type of energy. Wind only accounts for 25% of texas’ energy production. don’t blame it on wind
We are moving forward with clean energy one way or another. If people like it or not. The world is a prime example of the ability to move away from fossil fuels.
You didn't comprehend the problem at all. It's the power plants that went offline causing the outages. All those are individually owned you Numpty. The grid wasn't the problem...the supply was.
He just refuses to acknowledge the fact that the green energy wasn't working. 70% of Texas' Energy comes from Wind Turbines and Solar panels. They effing FROZE!! This was reported by Fox news days ago.
@@lordaimelord7848 False 70% comes from fossil fuels, wind power and solar makes up less then 26% of the energy. And fossil power plants also froze. Stop using misinformation to fuel your denial of climate change.
@@lordaimelord7848 no it doesn’t literally look it up its on their website, ERCOT provides 90% of Texas’s power, 20% is wind, 5% is solar, and 40% is natural gas, 20% is coal, rest is nuclear and hydro.
Our only priority is to get our name out of the news because we got caught with our pants down so we are going to blame everyone else but ourselves......nice job fellas!!!!!
Why did he start talking northern states when the interviewer mentioned neighboring states, with proper regulations, that doesn't have these issues? This guy is clearly part of the problem.
@@2001tjmedina no Obama made the mess by closeing down 30000 megawatts of coal power plants. the problem is more base line power plants of at least 1800 megawatts need to be built. the ? is what type it must be coal nuclear or nas gas with on site oil storage. now no body wants to pay for them
Depends on the state. Maine has a handful of power companies. CMP is the largest, and I would say even the smaller ones are owned or rent off CMP, but to keep it from being a "Monopoly", they are shown as a smaller company. They probably don't have the same laws in Texas.
@K MB Funny, I've never heard of the sun failing to rise, nor the wind failing to blow for extended periods. Turbines run when the wind speeds are between 6 - 55 mph, which is pretty much normal weather conditions. The wind and solar sources were not the major culprits in this fiasco. The refusal of Texas to correctly equip its power generation, whether renewable or fossil-fueled, was the reason for the failure.
I've been without power for 3 days. Rotating my ass! So no one thought this could happen again after 2011. Save it! There are elderly people and children freezing. FIX YOUR ROTATION!
As a tech, who worked with NY Rapid Recovery after hurricane Sandy, The collateral damage your infrastructure has suffered is going to take a long time to repair. Material, manpower and good administration are needed. Good luck to you. W
The rotation: gated communities,historic land marks, big business, hospitals,jails, nursing homes then whichever neighborhood they are told important people live in. Glad I live close to a vip’s family! My power didn’t go out for a long time but after the little people started complaining it went off! Damn I was one of the few little people with power. I felt special!😎 No it sucked! I’m pissed off too just letting everyone know it’s true. They made certain neighborhoods a priority. Even rich folks in good hoods were without power 🥶 kinda glad about that bc I’m sure they raised HELL about it which has helped everyone. Thanks to everyone that raised HELL! Maybe we should non violently ⛈ storm ⛈ city Hall??
Abbott, Cornyn, Cruz too busy building pipelines across Texas (in record time and over sensitive water sheds) to sell CHEAP natural gas overseas.... They didn't have time to winterize the energy grid. They have natural gas to sell!!
This CEO has nothing to be caught for. They manage the power flow that the equipment gives, not manage the equipment itself. This is definitely on the political leaders in Texas. They can always ask for money to upgrade the equipment on the system to make it more robust. If all of your tools aren't working then how can you perform at 100% in every type of emergency situation?
Why can't people just accept responsibility when they find that something they put in place doesn't work? Pointing fingers and blaming others instead of suggesting how to fix the problem seems to be the Republican modus operandi.I don't vote in Texas but I can sure as hell make sure I don't spend any more money there!
ERCOT has been reporting for literally decades that there are critical grid issues and that funding is required for infrastructure.... But you’d rather listen to what Kanye West did last Thursday night than talk about electrical grids.... This is what happens when you don’t listen to scientists and engineers... The insane amount of technical ability to reduce outages by 50% in 24 hours, do you have any idea how much work goes into that? You demand power instantaneously every second of your life - there is an entire process that is massive in scale that you likely completely take for granted. Like ERCOT their describing as a power company - uh no they run and manage the entire Texas Interconnection which includes grid networks of Texas and shared networks between New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and Mexico.
science deniers.......global warming deniers.............we will all continue paying with our very own lives if these fanatical religious nutcases are allowed to keep on with their beliefs rather than following the science..........this is absolutely criminal and the farthest thing from christian. remember hurricane katrina? the experts begged and warned our federal government about it for years before it hit. the levy needed repair...............the science deniers refused........katrina destroyed and killed due to the levy breaking. had the government gave the funding to repair that levy, katrina would have been contained. saving a ll money now costs 20 times more later.
Notice how he positions wind turbines first in terms of infrastructure failure, does not mention much more significant natural gas (fossil fuel) failures.
what did every one would thing would happan when obama closed down badly needed coal power plants. nat gas on a very cold winter cant heat homes and make power
Or, all of you people in Texas can prepare for 2022 to vote out EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. Seriously; what have they done in the last 20 years to improve the ordinary workers' lives for the people in Texas? I'm waiting...........
You need to know the facts and comprehend what the person is saying before you can comment on whether or not a particular individual is "lying". This man is not responsible for Texas power generation policy. You're blaming the traffic cop for potholes.
Cancel the conspiracy. At the beginning of the video this guy literally tells you that power was cut ON PURPOSE to save the equipment. It does make sense, look up the reasoning. They did not cause the snowstorm obviously, but did take the cheap route on maintaining reserves and cold-proofing power facilities.
DOn't be stupid. Who is making money when power lines are down, generators are coasting to a stop and transformers are burning up. Use some common sense. Who would have deliberately done this knowing the results and the uproar it would cause. THINK with your brains, not your mouth.
Do not worry, our God is a faithful and wonderful God. His will be done, He shall restore our power on His timing and we will praise and glorify His mighty name! Hallelujah, God bless you!
@@renaelivings1505 My wife and I's apartment was 37 yesterday morning when we woke up and left, 5-6 am tomorrow will be 3 days without power, but God is good and we have family that has power so I am not sure what the temperature is now at our apartment. God bless you try to stay warm!
This guy is afraid to lose his job saying Abott was right about the wind turbines. God forbid he'd agknowledge that wind turbines outperformed the other sources.
They actually underperformed. 60% of wind power generation stopped, compared to 10% of gas. Wind is 16% of Texas power but was 25% of the shortage. It failed at a higher rate, there's just a lot less of it.
He is going to take responsibility's. He is waiting till the runways are clear and then he will head off in his private jet to the Grand Cayman Islands.
The same goes for Abbot. Two more yrs of him and his as*hat lieutenant governor, last but not least idiot attorney general. Pretty much sucking trumps slong and do anyone even know if stump gave him that pardon he needed so much? I haven't heard another word about it.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Texans: “it’s MINUS 45 “ Me: I know ...Trump lost Texans: “Can I burn my AK 47??” Me: Nope Texans: At least California sucks more ERCOT : Hold my power outage
The wind turbines froze bc they didn’t put money into winterizing them. Norway uses wind energy and they don’t have these issues. Norway also gets much colder. Parts of the US are like 3rd world countries bc of the greedy elite on both sides of the political spectrum but specifically on the right. imo.
When most people live along the coast they want protection from floods, hurricanes, and now power outages due to weather. You basically have your family, if you have one, looking at you freezing. The head of the house is the last one to be blamed for the freezing part. How about us manufacturing a generator or two so we can help ourselves?
As a plumber during all this I will say this. I have been out since 7 am every day and back home at 10pm every day going to people's houses helping them fixing their issues. I noticed that neighborhoods were the level of income was higher these (outages) were minimal. I went to a house where they had a hot tub, a couple tvs running, pool equipment running, etc. I wanted to say something but not much i can do. Now, I also went to neighborhoods like mine where the power has been out for days and the level of income is lower. These so called "outages" are very selective.
Governor Babbit was elected by people who swallowed his line of trumpian nonsense hook, line and sinker. This is where these stupid, ignorant, arrogant people have deceived you - Texans - into believing they know it all. If they were ON the national grid, this would never have happened. It they believe in science, they would have been prepared. So go your own way, Texas. Listen to your ignorant millionair politicians. Don't believe in the scientist and SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IN SILENCE. You asked for it Voters of Texas. Now you deal with it and stop whining about being without power. YOU HAD THE VOTE and YOU VOTED FOR WEALTHY REPUBLICANS WHO LICK trumpps BACKSIDE.
@@ebaiewinna5360 you realize it’s his job to over see the upkeep and funding? Which he passed on multiple times. So yesss dim witted blind supporter he has a part in this failure. What is it about conservatives never being able to take accountability? If a liberal is person doesn’t do their job they need to be punished. What don’t y’all get? We are the ones that suffer from their incompetence. Wake up ding dong
I'm from Texas and these monthly utility fees is ridiculous high ..every residence pays Oncor 36.00 fees before this deregulation scheme it was under $1.00 charge Perry and Abbott so how they could prosper their pockets when George Bush was in the president office and continue to receive federal dollars to do as pleased because Texas is his home state this was Perry was infuriated when Obama administration informed that federal money (funds)designated for Texas Public schools can only used for Texas Public Schools. Perry was taking the public education money probably giving to self appointment SHAM companies such as ERCOT.
If I interpreted ERCOTs role in the energy system correct, the ones to resign should be the politicians who formed the system ERCOT operates in. Not being linked to a broad buffered system was a political decision.
There's plenty of blame. It's also a business decision. The power company wasn't required to do better, but no one prevented them from doing better. They just chose to do a bad job. That wasn't political, it was business.
Lmao that may be true but look at the dems, they make people look evil to gain political power. Biden calls trim a racist for blocking travel from South Africa then Biden blocks travel from South Africa. They blame everyone else to gain power they spread lies and give false hope. Where the 2k that Biden promised us.
@@nutl3255 Trump wanted to to do that before we even knew about the virus though... So yes, Trumps reasoning WAS based solely on racism. "E" for your effort though. 🙄 #FAIL.
It isn't a republican issue. It isn't a Democrat issue. It's an issue with all the politicians who feel no responsibility to the citizens. The false dichotomy of red vs blue perpetuates the problem and deflects from the true, shared guilt.
I wish they would stop lying about these outages being “rolling.” My entire neighborhood has been completely without electricity for 63 hours. It’s not expected to be back on anytime soon. We cannot get answers from ERCOT or Oncore. My 80 year old neighbors are enduring temperatures in the 40s inside their home and the temp is still dropping. Round Rock, TX
@@jkverity Power was restored 4.5 hours ago. Hoping it stays up for a while. Thank you for the well wishes. We need these temps to get above freezing so the entire state can recover from this mess.
@@fladave99 Well the grid in Texas is almost entirely independent right now.... How's that working out for them? BTW.....Texas is also crying for federal help right now. As an aside.... The El Paso area ( which is part of the western grid ) still has the lights and heat on.... Perhaps that area should secede from Texas and join the other states that are already cooperating with them hmm? Texas 'cannot secede' because every crisis that comes along that they show they are completely unprepared for they go running to the Federal government to help bail them out. The only 'scam' is energy generators and the GOP controlling every statewide office for over 20 years prioritizing profits over the people they represent for the sole reason that those same energy generators fund their campaigns year in and year out. Meanwhile Texans suffer for the lack of leadership and greed based incompetence.
@@michaelbeelby1995 I have 1,000 watts of solar and 2,000 watts of generator . A 2k genny will run all day on one gal of gas. Will give you a refer, tv, computers 1 small ac. A heater buddy is $99. I think power prices are gonna go through the roof. $2500 will give you a fully contained system . Buy now because prices for that stuff will jump too. These power outages are not going away
@@fladave99 That's all well and good for you, but what does that have to do with secession or this outage being a 'scam'? All your statement illustrates is that you have zero faith in your elected officials. Who is this mysterious 'they' that 'wants the grid broken up'? As for 'outages not going away' I don't have to worry about that because I live in a fully functioning state that can keep roads open and things don't freeze solid and stop working. Hell, even flooded generation facilities after a hurricane and the power is back on as soon as the transmission lines are checked, because we aren't all alone. BTW....you got took on the cost... my hurricane prep package was a fraction of that
YES it is. ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Take your pick, solve the problem before it becomes a problem, fix the problem or blame the problem! The blame game seems to be the biggest problem right now!
PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND... ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Last year when California had the fires which by the way was started by PG&E electric company..texas sent us rakes as a dig and Trump refused to give us federal aid
He restated each question and answered it. Questions about policy and regulation he clearly stated were up to the policy makers and regulators, not the grid operator.
What he is saying is this, in order for us to make money and get our bonuses, we have to charge a certain percentage and we can’t charge that percentage unless the grids are overloaded, and the only way to overload the grid is to shut a few of them down, so that the remainder if the grids can overload, causing an increase in the price of electricity and therefore, we make a profit and receive 6 digit bonuses, we just did not expect loss of life.
ERCOT needs to change their name. Nothing RELIABLE about them except the power constantly going out in bad weather. They will take no responsibility on the people who die in their homes due, new born babies/infants/toddlers/small children and let's not forget the elderly who are suffering with their parents/family who couldn't find wood fireplaces and have no warm place to go. You people ought to be ashamed! And you want to raise the price on top of it?
The wind turbines only supply 13% of Texas' energy...the other 87% comes from fossil fuels! Over 3 MILLION Texans without electricity during a weeks long HARD freeze. Shame on Abbott and the electrical grid CEO for NOT making sure we were ready for something like this!
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Texas had this happen in 2011, finding all the power generating companies needed to “upgrade” their facilities! Texas Republican legislators made it “voluntary” not mandatory, business comes first!
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
I do the same job as this guy but in New England. Nothing could have been done by them weeks before even to prevent this from happening. The main issues is TX isn't connected to the rest of the grid. It is all on its own thus making it not near as robust as it would be if it were like everyone else. This is a pretty extreme like 100yr extreme weather condition...
They have been preparing, however the grid is rated to withstand certain temperature ranges and there is a multiplicity if factors that can increase or decrease risk on different lines at any given day over any period of time. The combination of all lines (were talking like 50,000 sq miles) experiencing cold pressure significantly below normal conditions on lines likely past warranty is a massive order to coordinate and prepare for. They analyze load from every critical area of every city in the entire state. You’re talking hundreds of thousands to millions of points to analyze. Now they have extremely smart people and extremely power programs that are able to run power every single day in real time just so you can watch cat videos on UA-cam because you demand electricity every second of your existence and TAKE ALL OF THIS COMPLETELY FOR GRANTED.
@Terry Northrup that’s not what he was referring to. He’s referring to the potential impact, which is why prior they began reducing load impacts in an effort to avoid line blowouts which would lead to actual blackout for an extended period of time (look up what that’s actually like for region - 2003 Northeast Blackout).
@@SC-fj2zp Rolling outages are literally an engineered measure to prevent strain on distribution to avoid damage and cause a total blackout. ERCOT is an ISO that reports to the State government of Texas, I have no idea where on earth you are getting this information that they are a private company somehow unregulated and seperate from all control. THAT IS 100% WRONG
There should have been better preparation for all aspects in any emergency matters . This was a failure to do so and they should pay the price . Contact your attornies .
Wrong! All Texans should have taken "personal responsibility" and drilled their own gas wells in the back yard to run their own generators. Then none of this would have happened.
Bottom line about money, greed at the cost of people's lives 😠
Funnily enough you also just summed up, The American healthcare system.
Everything is about money. You think the grid is immune to this? Vaccines, cars, buildings, planes, all have acceptable probabilities of failure. If each of these were really built bulletproof, you wouldn't be able to afford any of them.
Why wasn't the problem fixed in 2011? They had plenty of time ..Texans need to speak up hold the officials accountable. Always about money,greed this will take years to fix..insurance claims someone from state farm said already have 3800 claims
@@mistyrain12 who regulates Er cot reliability?
@K MB you pay electric bills in Texas?
Isn't it the Governor's responsibility to see that everything is in place and working properly in case of any emergency?
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Governor too busy getting ready to run for president
He’s gotta go! This man never has a plan for ANY emergency 🚨
Not if you are a republican it's just less work to ly and blame anything you can
apparently the buck doesn't stop @ Governor.
Wind turbines are working fine in Canada, Germany, Denmark all cold countries.
@K MB They were probably not prepared for this kind of weather, it isn't as much the fault of the turbine as it is the state's fault
@K MB Easy to explain: the Texas operators neglected to buy weatherization capabilities.
@K MB they require de-icing in the cold. (The parts are heated.) In Texas, they chose not to install any de-icing equipment.
@K MB I agree. Texas' grid is optimized to handle demand spikes in summer, not lengthy demand spikes in winter. You are also correct about northern states. When I lived in Boston, one summer the heat and humidity hit unusual levels (almost 100 degrees and 90+% humidity) for several weeks. Power failed for more than a week, because the power company never expected Boston to experience those conditions.
quite simple the Texas grid is unregulated, the companies in charge of it do not have to winterise or have power grid redundancy or hardening, so ....... they don't, why waste money that could go into a CEO's pokets or into investors dividends on something as trivial as safties for working people ......
That's funny, wind turbines work fine in antarctica.
And it isn't that much of an issue in cold states.
wind turbines kill birds and there are large landfills filling up with giant fiberglass used parts. They are not so "green".
@@minniemaeshufflebutt116 Speaking from my profession, it's a LOT cleaner than oil, as I've worked in the oil industry for 4 years and 7 years welding wind towers. But h e l l what do I know...
@@minniemaeshufflebutt116 The whole point of wind turbines is to not generate green house gases to further destroy the environment.
@@minniemaeshufflebutt116 LOL. Come on man.
a failing system never updated because profits are more important than updated system.
Str8 uP, they wouldn't invest in winter control for wind turbines
System should've been updated in the 90's-2000's!! I worked on the SubStation Grids in the late 90's-2000's, it's all about Politics & Money, not the People!!
California is now unable to perform even basic functions of civilization, like having reliable electricity.
Biden/Harris/AOC want to make CA’s failed energy policy the standard nationwide.
Hope you don’t like air conditioning!
Ted Cruz tweet: Aug. 19, 2020
@@202One sad
Profits are more important when regulations are removed.
Wasn't "ENRON" from TEXAS? The energy "FRAUD" Mega Corp.
and now they try to blame wind turbines like, bruh!! wtf, why they lie so much
@Kal - El you are right but met let me add to that last part, *oil snake pit
ENRON 2.0
@Kal - El I mean, of course they didn't winterize, this is a once in a century blackout and Texas energy is cheap for a reason, the real problem is biomass plants like the one in austin weren't operating, and that would've dramatically helped. Also, don't act like Texas is the only state with corrupt politicians. What were they supposed to do? I think ERCOT should be held accountable, but you can't just say republican bad and think that paints to any solutions. Also people argue because so much money went to subsidizing wind, there wasn't enough money to invest in natural gas infrastructure. But I do this this ECROT CEO should be sent packing. Garbage job. Did he really not think snow has an impact?
@Kal - El While I don't personally care much for Ted Cruz, I certainly care a lot less for liberal politicians like AOC, who lied about the Capitol Riots and continually plays the "Victim" card. America needs leadership from those not affiliated with either Party. It divides us far more than it unites us.
They kept the lights on for the rich. I will NEVER FORGET
Been with no power for 3 days
@@andretticampos4253 that fuckin sucks
@@andretticampos4253 same here 🥶 I bet their homes have power
@@andretticampos4253 Me too, just got some today and hope it lasts.
We’ve known for thousands of years the rich have it better than the poor. This is not a new thing!
How stupid, how stupid, how stupid
I'm a retired electrician. I saw this coming ten years ago. How stupid.
Exactly, not hard to see for those of us with a brain 😃
Electrician or Electrical Engineer?
As a Mechanical Technician the concept of PM (preventative maintenance) is foundational & fundamental. It’s unbelievable that a basic maintenance concept was overlooked AGAIN because 💲💲💲💲💲for StockHolders & ShareHolders is the prime focus
Stupid is that stupid does...Forest Gump
This did happen 10 years ago!
Despite all the economic crisis, this is still a good time to start up an investment
Yeah sure Crypto yields more profits with the favourable market rise
I've been an investor and I can tell it changed my life for better 😊😊 Investing in crypto will be one of the widest thing to do
I had intrest in investing in crypto but I was discouraged by friends and family, I was being ignorant though
@@manecowen6627 Exactly ! That's definitely ignorance , they are good Markets to invest in and earn profits of your investment
I have been trader for over 7 month's with no good returns, rather loss and blown accounts , really heart breaking 😢😢
he's basically saying "dont blame me for not having a backup system or emergency capacity or any of the other things we knew years ago that we would need"
He's blabbering and not fixing the problem !
@@idaisukiyou Its not his problem to fix. The state fucked up when they didnt keep up and have piping or anything laid out for freezing weather.
he literally said that he has nothing to do with power generation multiple times. they just decide where it goes.
@yourallsinners 1 They probably did. But politicians don't want to hear that kinda stuff.
So many Texans are in desperate conditions without heat, water, and little relief.
Gov. Abbott needs to get off TV pointing fingers & start helping people.
After that, he needs to read a book on his own state’s energy supply. I’ll be prepping TX relief emails if he needs help.
He looks comfortable in that warm office without a jacket on.
Rich fu*cker. But he already knows he's out of a job.
@@michelleflynn9725 Ya he is worried about his job. Actually he is waiting for the runways to clear before he takes his private jet to the Grand Cayman Islands, He is rich he won't pay and Texan's gave it to him! I feel truly for the sea turtles!!!!
OK!!
It would be monumentally stupid to turn off power in the power grid control center. That would immediately kill power to the entire state...
I suppose they could turn off the heater in solidarity or something but really?
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
"Froze the wind turbines" -- which accounts for 10-15% of your power. How about you talk about the natural gas and other sources that also froze?
from your own fed gov dept of engery . Its 25% in the winter
Only a few froze actually. The rest worked fine with lower capacity - that is normal
@@Gugner from your fed gov rated name cap 30000 megawatts. megawatts made from wind 3000., that is a max of 27000 megawatts short
ercot cut the power off to natural gas pumps... that's why power generators stopped, and then froze over.
@@wim0104 ditto that. I queston. Why did the nat gas pumps have back up power
notice that he mentions wind power twice as problem. that is bs.
Wind turbines did fail... at a higher rate than traditional power methods. To ignore that is bs. It should absolutely be addressed and discussed and not just swept under the rug. There is plenty of blame to go around, but just because we like a certain type of energy production, doesn't mean we shouldn't be critical of it's failures or rather our failure to implement it.
@@TheNolimitcity Because Texas refused to winterize them as they had been admonished to do for over ten years. Problems? Talk to Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, northern states.
@@renecurry6551 Exactly. Wind turbines have been around for centuries and work just fine if properly equipped and maintained. The GOP just sees them as a cheap way to, yet again, avoid responsibility and blame all their problems on liberals.
@@TheNolimitcity Nope. Wind power supplies 23% of Texas' power needs, yet accounted for only 16% of the capacity that had to be turned off.
Yes I noticed that. He's a good repuglican.
Don't you love how this guy mentions wind turbines seizing up first and not how the gas to generate power at power plants is the biggest issue? I know he gets there eventually, but the primary focus on renewables as the issue is laughable. Biased. Also, Texas doesn't winterize any of its stuff, there's your problem. They took that risk, and maybe understandably so, but then stop the complaining and gaslighting now that the worst has happened. This isn't rocket science. The Gov needing an investigation into the obvious is disingenuous. This outcome isn't a bug, the risks were designed this way - it's a feature.
Because we don't usually need to. This is extremely well and yes this is proof climate change is BULLSHIT!
Because it doesn't freeze this bad often or ever. The cost to winterize is immense in a large state like Texas.
that was obama's mess. obama closed down a lot of badly needed coal power plants. every body knew in very cold winter nat gas could not heat homes and make power at the same time. it was a very stupid idea
This weather is unprecedented, thats why this happened people.
@@dcan5012 But, we knew the cold weather was coming but he never prepared for it nor he never had a plan B. He is full of excuses. No one is saying his job is easy but that is why he is getting paid well. If he cannot get the job done, he needs to be fired. That is how jobs work.
The grid works perfectly well in CANADA where the temperature is lower than that 6 months per year.
yep, and your population also doesn't depend on electrical heating, in badly insulated houses. That "Tex-nones insulation" also waste gigawatts of AC energy during summer.
He is not the only one to blame...local govnt officials, etc
And don't forget dependent sheeple!
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 He is definitely comin soon!! God bless 🙏 🙌
California is now unable to perform even basic functions of civilization, like having reliable electricity.
Biden/Harris/AOC want to make CA’s failed energy policy the standard nationwide.
Hope you don’t like air conditioning!
Ted Cruz tweet: Aug. 19, 2020
It’s his job to provide power. He failed.
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 my wife got mad at me last night while we were making love, because I told her I was feeling like jesus, she asked why? and I told her I was ready for my second cumming! XD by the way you forgot to add -selling guns to the list.
So many words so little accountability.
I call them word salads.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Everything is bigger in Texas even the excuses 😂🤣😂🤣
Florida every hurricane season. People during from generator exhaust and electrocuted from trying wire it in their homes etc. it happens. Invest in your infrastructure instead of in football stadiums
Republicans won’t let investments into our infrastructure.
It would make it harder to give billionaires another tax cut.
Our Brave Billionaires need more tax cuts.
Those of us who are not rich are poor because gawd hates us, and is punishing us with poverty.
Facts.
@@honeysucklecat I hear you you. Time to vote for a different governor 4 sure. Good vibes hope you are safe
Yep
@@honeysucklecat yeah Biden will save us!
That stings because it's true.
Weasel Talk! "It's not my responsibility." He knows damn good and well that the gas powered sources were the major cause of the problem not wind generators.
exactly GaryGrumble💯wind turbines are only 10% of the energy grid in Texas right now there's what about 90% failure(with 100% being no electricity at all)what can we do to help you guys
He's no more responsible than air traffic control is responsible for a fleet of broken aircraft. In that case you would blame the airline, not air traffic control, do why are you blaming ercot and not the equipment owner?
Personally I feel that _Governor Abbot_ should resign.
In 2011 they were informed that they needed to insulate and update the grid system and instead they chose not to to save money on their systems so it's not like didn't know this was coming
They were told the same t hing all the way back in 1989 too......
What agency told them this?
@@DEATHxD3ALER Funny. we had worse freezes in the 90s, and this didn't happen. and we have had freezes since the supposed warning in 2011, this did not happen then either. So, if you are right. Why didn't it happen then? I was here. it was colder, and it didn't happen. However. ERCOT, did not have real time control of the grid until December 2010.
maybe this is just ERCOT being overzealous with the blackouts to save money (risk management estimate factor).
@@DEATHxD3ALER ERCOT has shut people's power off altogether for days on end. There's no "rolling" involved.
@@Chris-tn4js Yeah I'm pretty sure the rolling thing was just an out an excuse to cover the real story that they didn't make upgrades and winterize the grid like they should have in the first place and again that fall's on the government of Texas for not holding the company's to account or what's the word I'm looking for........... Regulating.
That CEO might as well save his breath. There's no way in hell he's going to talk his way out of this one.
Lol! 😂👏👏👏
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
@@johntore6108 you have no idea what you're talking about and you're going around spreading lies. Wait, is this Alex Jones?
ERCOT means Electricity Reliability Council of Texas. Like an oxymoron
ERCOT, more like they FRGOT how to care
Naw it’s Evil Corporation of Texas
More like a moron on oxy
ERCOT’s authority is simply to call up generators or transmission lines when the forecasts call for it. If an individual utility is not able to answer the call, it’s not ERCOT’s fault.
Lawsuits abound. A lot of people died. They deserve to go bankrupt
MURDERERS! PAY UP BITCHES!
Ya law suits!!!! And you will find this guy in the Grand Cayman Islands landing in his private jet. But Never fear Texans!!!! You still have your guns!!!!! How does that saying go? Oh ya "I will give up my guns when you ply them from my FROZEN hands!!!!!!!" ENJOY!!!!! tRump forever!!!!! Go Republicans!!!!!
This is texas. I would expect a few executions will fix the problem.
It's a non profit board
melanie melanie "Lawsuits abound. A lot of people died. They deserve to go bankrupt"
sounds like the NY guy Andrew Cuomo
Sound like a lawsuit, cuz all I’m hearing is blah blah blah!
Look up attorney Tom, he just posted a video with legal stuff explaining that they gave Ercot immunity from personal suits, so so much for alot of people forced to suffer for this
Then try actually listening.
Definitely a major Law suit coming, this is absolutely crazy! They need to go in the national grid because obviously they're not capable of doing this independently.
Steering clear of we didn't insulate the turbines for sure.
He said he thinks in his statement. Mean he is not so sure. The blast you see on the transformer due to the circuit is over loaded.
This is why I am looking to buy a house with a fireplace...you never know when it may really come in handy.
I don't even use mine, but I'm glad I have it just in case.
Fireplaces are very inefficient. A wood stove is much better.
When I was looking for an apartment I made sure I got one with a wood burning fireplace. Have extra wood stored up "just in case".
Are homes in Texas filled with Copper pipes.
all this guy does is repeat himself. they didnt winterize the systems im in ohio and have power in winter just fine. DON"T let them mislead you!
OHIO HAS A LOT OF COAL POWER plants and some nuclear power plants. ohio is also in the eastern power grid and can buy power from other states. Texas cant but much power from any one
@@dknowles60 that’s the problem you idiot. texas chose to disconnect from the national grid so that they could deregulate and save money for the owners. It has nothing to do with the type of energy. Wind only accounts for 25% of texas’ energy production. don’t blame it on wind
a a I saw about 12% but aye
We are moving forward with clean energy one way or another. If people like it or not. The world is a prime example of the ability to move away from fossil fuels.
You didn't comprehend the problem at all. It's the power plants that went offline causing the outages. All those are individually owned you Numpty. The grid wasn't the problem...the supply was.
Boy, he was tap dancing as fast as he could in order to say nothing meaningful and therefore not piss off anyone who is truly responsible.
He needs to resign. He should also face criminal charges.
@@itgetter9 Wtf is your problem
He just refuses to acknowledge the fact that the green energy wasn't working. 70% of Texas' Energy comes from Wind Turbines and Solar panels. They effing FROZE!! This was reported by Fox news days ago.
@@lordaimelord7848 False 70% comes from fossil fuels, wind power and solar makes up less then 26% of the energy. And fossil power plants also froze. Stop using misinformation to fuel your denial of climate change.
@@lordaimelord7848 no it doesn’t literally look it up its on their website, ERCOT provides 90% of Texas’s power, 20% is wind, 5% is solar, and 40% is natural gas, 20% is coal, rest is nuclear and hydro.
Our only priority is to get our name out of the news because we got caught with our pants down so we are going to blame everyone else but ourselves......nice job fellas!!!!!
Why did he start talking northern states when the interviewer mentioned neighboring states, with proper regulations, that doesn't have these issues? This guy is clearly part of the problem.
a lot of northern states are having the same problem right no. the ones that are not have at least 33% coaL POWER PLANTS
I live in Lake Charles, LA and we lost power for approximately 12 hrs. due to freezing temperatures.
Who do you think regulated Ercot grid reliability?
@@2001tjmedina no Obama made the mess by closeing down 30000 megawatts of coal power plants. the problem is more base line power plants of at least 1800 megawatts need to be built. the ? is what type it must be coal nuclear or nas gas with on site oil storage. now no body wants to pay for them
@@dknowles60 I'm not sure about the shutdowns but ercot does have a level to promote new capacity builds. I'm sure that will be reviewed
Why does one Company run.the entire Power Grid for a Huge State like Texas??
Corruption. The same reason the West explosion happened on April 15, 2013
Big Money runs that state.
Depends on the state.
Maine has a handful of power companies. CMP is the largest, and I would say even the smaller ones are owned or rent off CMP, but to keep it from being a "Monopoly", they are shown as a smaller company. They probably don't have the same laws in Texas.
Isn't that communism. State run and control. They say once this is over the utility is allow to raise prices 300%.
Greed.
I’m almost positive there is a financial gain in TX not having a government-based grid..........
Gee ...ya think so?........
He always mentions that wind mills froze.
No mention on coal and natural gas equipment failure. Pathetic explanation.
@K MB
Excelente Respuesta Sir !!!
@K MB Funny, I've never heard of the sun failing to rise, nor the wind failing to blow for extended periods. Turbines run when the wind speeds are between 6 - 55 mph, which is pretty much normal weather conditions.
The wind and solar sources were not the major culprits in this fiasco. The refusal of Texas to correctly equip its power generation, whether renewable or fossil-fueled, was the reason for the failure.
@K MB An 'occasional power outage' is a few hours, not days.
STOP BLAMING WIND TURBINES
3:06 "Our job is to prevent those catastrophic blackouts"
You FAILED!
They don’t generate power !!
I've been without power for 3 days. Rotating my ass! So no one thought this could happen again after 2011. Save it! There are elderly people and children freezing. FIX YOUR ROTATION!
As a tech, who worked with NY Rapid Recovery after hurricane Sandy, The collateral damage your infrastructure has suffered is going to take a long time to repair. Material, manpower and good administration are needed. Good luck to you. W
Prayers Going up Sister🙏🏽what can we do to HELP
The rotation: gated communities,historic land marks, big business, hospitals,jails, nursing homes then whichever neighborhood they are told important people live in. Glad I live close to a vip’s family!
My power didn’t go out for a long time but after the little people started complaining it went off! Damn I was one of the few little people with power.
I felt special!😎
No it sucked!
I’m pissed off too just letting everyone know it’s true.
They made certain neighborhoods a priority.
Even rich folks in good hoods were without power 🥶 kinda glad about that bc I’m sure they raised HELL about it which has helped everyone.
Thanks to everyone that raised HELL!
Maybe we should non violently ⛈ storm ⛈ city Hall??
@@hectorh.1341 Lol...yes. NO RIOTS OVER HERE. WE DON'T PLAY THAT... NEITHER DOES ARLINGTON PD 😊🤗
ceo--" i'm sorry i got caught blah blah blah " profits over people.
Abbott, Cornyn, Cruz too busy building pipelines across Texas (in record time and over sensitive water sheds) to sell CHEAP natural gas overseas.... They didn't have time to winterize the energy grid. They have natural gas to sell!!
It certainly sounded like he was using intelligent answers to deflect from actually answering the question.
@@DagDebrini Pretty much. Sadly enough people are gullible enough to fall for it.
Yeah, and none of the governor - it's everyone else's responsibility/fault but mine.
This CEO has nothing to be caught for. They manage the power flow that the equipment gives, not manage the equipment itself. This is definitely on the political leaders in Texas. They can always ask for money to upgrade the equipment on the system to make it more robust. If all of your tools aren't working then how can you perform at 100% in every type of emergency situation?
Why can't people just accept responsibility when they find that something they put in place doesn't work? Pointing fingers and blaming others instead of suggesting how to fix the problem seems to be the Republican modus operandi.I don't vote in Texas but I can sure as hell make sure I don't spend any more money there!
It's because they'd lose money for there hookers.
It works on the federal level. Blame someone ELSE. WTF. LISTEN TO THESE FOOLS.
Sorry lone star state, you're all alone. Those people are just going to play the blame game during and after all the sufferings
I know this is awful! Sounds all too familiar!🥺
This is pathetic.
ERCOT has been reporting for literally decades that there are critical grid issues and that funding is required for infrastructure....
But you’d rather listen to what Kanye West did last Thursday night than talk about electrical grids....
This is what happens when you don’t listen to scientists and engineers...
The insane amount of technical ability to reduce outages by 50% in 24 hours, do you have any idea how much work goes into that?
You demand power instantaneously every second of your life - there is an entire process that is massive in scale that you likely completely take for granted. Like ERCOT their describing as a power company - uh no they run and manage the entire Texas Interconnection which includes grid networks of Texas and shared networks between New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and Mexico.
@@brian2440 The fact that everything isn't perfect is proof that the US is a white supremacist patriarchy.
You're being generous there matey
science deniers.......global warming deniers.............we will all continue paying with our very own lives if these fanatical religious nutcases are allowed to keep on with their beliefs rather than following the science..........this is absolutely criminal and the farthest thing from christian. remember hurricane katrina? the experts begged and warned our federal government about it for years before it hit. the levy needed repair...............the science deniers refused........katrina destroyed and killed due to the levy breaking. had the government gave the funding to repair that levy, katrina would have been contained. saving a ll money now costs 20 times more later.
TexAss is pathetic. Texans are pathetic. But I’m LUVN IT! 😆
I notice he's sitting there in shirt sleeves..... Says it all really
Sooo, they shut down all power for the poor so that him and his rich buddies could have 100% service... Why is this guy not in prison again?
Yeah, you straight have no idea what you're talking about.
idioot
Notice how he positions wind turbines first in terms of infrastructure failure, does not mention much more significant natural gas (fossil fuel) failures.
Yes or _nuclear_ power plants having malfunctioning instruments.
He mentioned gas multiple times you fukturd
@@spaghettigod43 And yet you post no time stamps. Liar.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 the video is right fucking there. Just watch it and use your peacock sized brain.
what did every one would thing would happan when obama closed down badly needed coal power plants. nat gas on a very cold winter cant heat homes and make power
THEY NEED TO GIVE CREDIT FOR EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T HAVE POWEROR ELECTRICITY.
YOU CAN CALL AND ASK FOR A CREDIT FOR THOSE DAYS.
They don’t charge you if you are not using electricity. They can’t credit back what you don’t use.
A lot of good it will do for the guy who was found dead frozen to his chair.
Or, all of you people in Texas can prepare for 2022 to vote out EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. Seriously; what have they done in the last 20 years to improve the ordinary workers' lives for the people in Texas? I'm waiting...........
Basically they cut corners to pocket cash and got caught with their pants down.... meanwhile working class people suffer.
Yep.
That focus should have been regulated . No excused lives where lost !!! While you bastards filled your pockets .
This guy’s nose is getting longer. Liar!
Yes
You need to know the facts and comprehend what the person is saying before you can comment on whether or not a particular individual is "lying". This man is not responsible for Texas power generation policy. You're blaming the traffic cop for potholes.
Wind turbines are not the problem incompetence is by all involved
Sounds like a politician's answer to me... "It's the storms fault!"
This on top of a pandemic. I'm praying for y'all to get through this nightmare.
I believe this was purposely done. It's a money deal going on.
most def, not unlike the Calfornia Brownouts,
Power-lines are electrical highways. Supply & demand adjusted by weather conditions. Power production is a business.
Cancel the conspiracy. At the beginning of the video this guy literally tells you that power was cut ON PURPOSE to save the equipment. It does make sense, look up the reasoning. They did not cause the snowstorm obviously, but did take the cheap route on maintaining reserves and cold-proofing power facilities.
DOn't be stupid. Who is making money when power lines are down, generators are coasting to a stop and transformers are burning up. Use some common sense. Who would have deliberately done this knowing the results and the uproar it would cause. THINK with your brains, not your mouth.
This guy pocket big donation from someone for sure. I don't see any rolling blackout for 4 straight days count 5 by tonight.
Lord please make a way for them to restore power as soon as possible 🙄
Yes I am in agreement
Do not worry, our God is a faithful and wonderful God. His will be done, He shall restore our power on His timing and we will praise and glorify His mighty name! Hallelujah, God bless you!
Thank you. I'm here in houston and its beyond cold without lights.
@@renaelivings1505
My wife and I's apartment was 37 yesterday morning when we woke up and left, 5-6 am tomorrow will be 3 days without power, but God is good and we have family that has power so I am not sure what the temperature is now at our apartment. God bless you try to stay warm!
@@worthyisthelamb6071 thank you. I'm praying the lights come on soon. Stay safe and God bless.
This guy is afraid to lose his job saying Abott was right about the wind turbines. God forbid he'd agknowledge that wind turbines outperformed the other sources.
They actually underperformed. 60% of wind power generation stopped, compared to 10% of gas. Wind is 16% of Texas power but was 25% of the shortage. It failed at a higher rate, there's just a lot less of it.
@@TheNolimitcity Statistical LIES 🤣🤣🤣🤣. People do your research. UA-cam has liars in full mode. This is an example
to Governor Abbott .... I live in Texas. Be a man and take responsibility for your actions or are you really a Texan?
Old-School Texans with integrity aren't elected to high office in the state.
He is going to take responsibility's. He is waiting till the runways are clear and then he will head off in his private jet to the Grand Cayman Islands.
@@kend6693 Ah, the Cayman Islands...Sun, surf and secret bank accounts.
He’s a Republican. What do you expect from somebody who blames everyone else.
@@johncarman6966 I''m hearing rumors that Cruz is in Cancun on vaca. Nice timing, Ted. Did rabble-rousing wear you out, or were you just cold?
Sounds like he's making excuses for his inadequacy
After four years of trumps inadequacy "little Mushroom" mentality, BS fertilizer was bound to grow organic parasites....
The same goes for Abbot. Two more yrs of him and his as*hat lieutenant governor, last but not least idiot attorney general. Pretty much sucking trumps slong and do anyone even know if stump gave him that pardon he needed so much? I haven't heard another word about it.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
@@johntore6108 but they are threatening millions of lives without heat water food etc.
@@johntore6108 you have no idea what you're talking about and you're going around spreading lies. Wait, is this Alex Jones?
And he also blames "policy makers" for not holding him to a higher standard.
Everybody: So glad 2020 is over, it was a horrible year.
2021: Hold my beer!
“Here we go”
2021 the rebound year! All the corrupt shall be EXPOSED!
@@woodynorris8224 Maybe he sees the unleashing of nuclear weapons on a human population as the worst event imaginable.
@@woodynorris8224 not good for Germany or Japan...but we still celebrate it here
@@louispoulte9813 no worse than carpet bombing
Texans: “it’s MINUS 45 “
Me: I know ...Trump lost
Texans: “Can I burn my AK 47??”
Me: Nope
Texans: At least California sucks more
ERCOT : Hold my power outage
I think a lot of people are second guessing their thoughts of moving to texas, maybe not moving out of California but just not to Texas
The power outage alone is bound to turn Texas blue.
Republican Californians living in Texas: THIS IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT
Texas is planning to use 2nd amendment to restore power. Governor is talking to chuck Norris and NRA.
Texas is a fucken joke. Full of incompetent leaders. Vote them all out!
@@3_up_moon 😂 it will do the opposite. What this power outage shows is you cant depend on green energy which is the platform of the blue party.
The wind turbines froze bc they didn’t put money into winterizing them. Norway uses wind energy and they don’t have these issues. Norway also gets much colder. Parts of the US are like 3rd world countries bc of the greedy elite on both sides of the political spectrum but specifically on the right. imo.
It’s called Corporate Socialism .... from deregulation to subsidies, Corporate Socialism has been running our Country since Ronald RayGun
When most people live along the coast they want protection from floods, hurricanes, and now power outages due to weather. You basically have your family, if you have one, looking at you freezing. The head of the house is the last one to be blamed for the freezing part. How about us manufacturing a generator or two so we can help ourselves?
As a plumber during all this I will say this.
I have been out since 7 am every day and back home at 10pm every day going to people's houses helping them fixing their issues.
I noticed that neighborhoods were the level of income was higher these (outages) were minimal. I went to a house where they had a hot tub, a couple tvs running, pool equipment running, etc. I wanted to say something but not much i can do.
Now, I also went to neighborhoods like mine where the power has been out for days and the level of income is lower. These so called "outages" are very selective.
Governor Abitt should also resign
Why? Did he create the storm, or did the governor oversee the electrical grid when it was built over the last few decades?
EXACTLY...👍👍👍👍
Governor Babbit was elected by people who swallowed his line of trumpian nonsense hook, line and sinker. This is where these stupid, ignorant, arrogant people have deceived you - Texans - into believing they know it all. If they were ON the national grid, this would never have happened. It they believe in science, they would have been prepared. So go your own way, Texas. Listen to your ignorant millionair politicians. Don't believe in the scientist and SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IN SILENCE. You asked for it Voters of Texas. Now you deal with it and stop whining about being without power. YOU HAD THE VOTE and YOU VOTED FOR WEALTHY REPUBLICANS WHO LICK trumpps BACKSIDE.
@@ebaiewinna5360 you realize it’s his job to over see the upkeep and funding? Which he passed on multiple times. So yesss dim witted blind supporter he has a part in this failure. What is it about conservatives never being able to take accountability? If a liberal is person doesn’t do their job they need to be punished. What don’t y’all get? We are the ones that suffer from their incompetence. Wake up ding dong
Exactly!! SMH!
Those folks pays you to give their households power. You owe them a refund for February. This is disgraceful!
I'm from Texas and these monthly utility fees is ridiculous high ..every residence pays Oncor 36.00 fees before this deregulation scheme it was under $1.00 charge Perry and Abbott so how they could prosper their pockets when George Bush was in the president office and continue to receive federal dollars to do as pleased because Texas is his home state this was Perry was infuriated when Obama administration informed that federal money (funds)designated for Texas Public schools can only used for Texas Public Schools. Perry was taking the public education
money probably giving to self appointment SHAM companies such as ERCOT.
robyn it is the creed of the republicans NOT TO GIVE OUT REFUNDS, but to charge you the max even if you can't pay
Seriously now, you cannot get a refund if you weren’t charged anything. If you had no power, you were not charged!
They’ve already announced they’re going to raise bills because of this. Evil thieves!
He's talking in circles...
I agree!
Ikr??? We weren't born yesterday smh 🤦🏾♀️
If I interpreted ERCOTs role in the energy system correct, the ones to resign should be the politicians who formed the system ERCOT operates in. Not being linked to a broad buffered system was a political decision.
There's plenty of blame. It's also a business decision. The power company wasn't required to do better, but no one prevented them from doing better. They just chose to do a bad job. That wasn't political, it was business.
@@Preservestlandry But much of that blame is on the generation companies and not just ERCOT.
Three months ago, the Texas Governor wanted to secede from the Union. Now he's begging the Union for assistance.
Another case and point of Republican Govt. mismanagement. "Never prepare, just wait until it's too late and then blame everyone else!"
Lmao that may be true but look at the dems, they make people look evil to gain political power. Biden calls trim a racist for blocking travel from South Africa then Biden blocks travel from South Africa. They blame everyone else to gain power they spread lies and give false hope. Where the 2k that Biden promised us.
@@nutl3255 he bought your vote?
@@nutl3255 Trump wanted to to do that before we even knew about the virus though... So yes, Trumps reasoning WAS based solely on racism.
"E" for your effort though. 🙄
#FAIL.
It isn't a republican issue. It isn't a Democrat issue. It's an issue with all the politicians who feel no responsibility to the citizens. The false dichotomy of red vs blue perpetuates the problem and deflects from the true, shared guilt.
@@s.d.c5513 🤡
So how long was YOUR HOUSE POWER OUT MR CEO? I BET YOU U HAD POWER THE WHOLE TIME WHILE WE WE'RE OUT OVER 60 HOURS!!!!!!!
I was out for 72 hours
I wish they would stop lying about these outages being “rolling.” My entire neighborhood has been completely without electricity for 63 hours. It’s not expected to be back on anytime soon. We cannot get answers from ERCOT or Oncore. My 80 year old neighbors are enduring temperatures in the 40s inside their home and the temp is still dropping. Round Rock, TX
It is not the fault of ERCOT if you don’t understand what a rolling blackout is... there’s literally the internet...
Wishing you and your neighbors the best of luck! Stay strong!!
@@jkverity Power was restored 4.5 hours ago. Hoping it stays up for a while. Thank you for the well wishes. We need these temps to get above freezing so the entire state can recover from this mess.
@@CreamyJalapeno relieved to hear the good news! Mahalo for the update. Hope good news continues n that ur neighbors are well. Sending warm thoughts.
@@CreamyJalapeno relieved to hear the good news! Mahalo for the update. Hope good news continues n that ur neighbors are well. Sending warm thoughts.
Failure to spend time making this system serve us correctly. Inferior infrastructure paid for by all of us every month.
This is a TOTAL SCAM. They want TEXAS GRID BROKEN UP so they cannot seceed
@@fladave99 Well the grid in Texas is almost entirely independent right now.... How's that working out for them? BTW.....Texas is also crying for federal help right now.
As an aside.... The El Paso area ( which is part of the western grid ) still has the lights and heat on.... Perhaps that area should secede from Texas and join the other states that are already cooperating with them hmm?
Texas 'cannot secede' because every crisis that comes along that they show they are completely unprepared for they go running to the Federal government to help bail them out. The only 'scam' is energy generators and the GOP controlling every statewide office for over 20 years prioritizing profits over the people they represent for the sole reason that those same energy generators fund their campaigns year in and year out. Meanwhile Texans suffer for the lack of leadership and greed based incompetence.
@@michaelbeelby1995 I have 1,000 watts of solar and 2,000 watts of generator . A 2k genny will run all day on one gal of gas. Will give you a refer, tv, computers 1 small ac. A heater buddy is $99. I think power prices are gonna go through the roof. $2500 will give you a fully contained system . Buy now because prices for that stuff will jump too. These power outages are not going away
@@fladave99 That's all well and good for you, but what does that have to do with secession or this outage being a 'scam'?
All your statement illustrates is that you have zero faith in your elected officials. Who is this mysterious 'they' that 'wants the grid broken up'?
As for 'outages not going away' I don't have to worry about that because I live in a fully functioning state that can keep roads open and things don't freeze solid and stop working. Hell, even flooded generation facilities after a hurricane and the power is back on as soon as the transmission lines are checked, because we aren't all alone.
BTW....you got took on the cost... my hurricane prep package was a fraction of that
@@michaelbeelby1995 Keep votin for democratz. Stay the hell out of Florida
This happened only in Texas not in Louisiana? He failed, he need resign, greedy man with greedy companies!
This is the Governor fault.
YES it is. ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
The governor just sits on his ass and casts blame during a crisis. Gee, he obviously gets his leadership skills from a recent ex-president.
You know he’s crippled right? He literally can’t stand.
Turds of a feather float together!
@@TheRichardsonReport ; But he's still sitting on his ass, right? The statement was accurate... maybe it's YOU who doesn't have a leg to stand on!
This guy should run for office. He's already great at completely avoiding direct questions
They were never prepared to deal with this to begin with.
As a Texan, I can say that we only learn after a disaster...
Some of us still doesn't have not only power, but no water as well. Come on !
Leadership
You vote them in,FREEZE BABY FREEZE OH YEAH.Its Mexico fault they took too long to build the wall
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU WINERS. YOU WANT WATER TWO. SWEET JESUS AREN'T TEXANS TUFF. BACK IN THE DAY. BRAVADO. ALL YOU NEEDED GETTING SOFY.
@@roberthertz6634 WHY THE #### ARE YOU SCREAMING...?????????
He won't get away this easy. You've flooded the homes of lots of people with power and money. Trust me!
Take your pick, solve the problem before it becomes a problem, fix the problem or blame the problem! The blame game seems to be the biggest problem right now!
Right on bro
Well said!😁
*The GOP:* The Party of Blame, Lies, Projection and Victimhood.
Magness' responses in this interview are pathetic and borderline on misrepresentation.
All I heard was: 'blah, blah, blah. I'm a dirty tramp for money.'
😭😭😭
I think I heard the same thing 🤪
Hahaha! 😂👏👏👏
PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND... ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
I bet he had electricity
Last year when California had the fires which by the way was started by PG&E electric company..texas sent us rakes as a dig and Trump refused to give us federal aid
I hear rolling black outs, I hear "Enron money grab scam"
Sounds like Republicans turned Texas into Venezuela. Someone should tell Biden the republicans beat him to it. 🤣
Ercot already stated they will be raising rates later this year. Because of the unforseen demand of energy...... Like talk about shake down....
This guy is a true politician, talks and says nothing. He should resign, this is the fault of ergot. I bet he has power at his home
You clearly didn’t listen to what he said then
NO SIMULUS TILL JULY 17 AFTER CONGRESS NEXT VACATION THEN WE GET 600
@Hello Thomas how are you doing?
It’s interesting how he really doesn’t answer questions.
He restated each question and answered it. Questions about policy and regulation he clearly stated were up to the policy makers and regulators, not the grid operator.
What he is saying is this, in order for us to make money and get our bonuses, we have to charge a certain percentage and we can’t charge that percentage unless the grids are overloaded, and the only way to overload the grid is to shut a few of them down, so that the remainder if the grids can overload, causing an increase in the price of
electricity and therefore, we make a profit and receive 6 digit bonuses, we just did not expect loss of life.
He'll be elected to Congress next round
He's a deflector. He never implements himself alone he says the grid operators. Separating himself.
ERCOT needs to change their name. Nothing RELIABLE about them except the power constantly going out in bad weather.
They will take no responsibility on the people who die in their homes due, new born babies/infants/toddlers/small children and let's not forget the elderly who are suffering with their parents/family who couldn't find wood fireplaces and have no warm place to go.
You people ought to be ashamed!
And you want to raise the price on top of it?
It’s Texas governors fault and he need to resign
Who didn't watch the video and went straight to the comments?
Dude, I see you with same comments everywhere. Try something different like...does bear 💩 in the woods?
Me✋ usually tells me everything I need to know, then I don't have to suffer through stupid and lies.
They weren't a failure usually those wind turbines are heated with a heated system they failed to employ to .
The wind turbines only supply 13% of Texas' energy...the other 87% comes from fossil fuels! Over 3 MILLION Texans without electricity during a weeks long HARD freeze. Shame on Abbott and the electrical grid CEO for NOT making sure we were ready for something like this!
Yup, it failed buddy, it is a crap system.
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
Texas had this happen in 2011, finding all the power generating companies needed to “upgrade” their facilities! Texas Republican legislators made it “voluntary” not mandatory, business comes first!
Let me help you, Mr. Magness - “ERCOT is run by incompetent buffoons who (hopefully) will be looking for new employment soon!”
Sadly, ERCOT is a private business --he can't be fired.
@@44bett wrong Private business fires all the time.its the Gov that never fires
Ercot just took down the bios of board members from their website. Tar and feathering could make a comeback.
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No worries I screen shot them all.
Because they are getting dead threats?
ERCOT INTENTIONALLY SHUT OFF THE TEXAS ENERGY GRID. Under a "STATE OF EMERGENCY ORDER" Signed by your REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT. ERCOT under an "EMERGENCY DISASTER DECLARATION", was ORDERED to INTENTIONALLY Turn off the Power, by ORDERING Utility Companies to "Reduce Demand" and "Rotating Blackouts" Nice Euphemisms for "SHUT OFF THE POWER INTENTIONALLY to RESIDENTIAL AREAS" While they Light up Downtown SkyScrapers and Parks that No one can use!
He looks pissed he’s being held accountable. What a slimeball
If u blame ERCOT ur just plain stupid! Don’t you understand English? 👂 listen to what is being said. More dumb people nonsense 😂
You been working since Sunday night? Why did you not prepare you had time. Years.
I do the same job as this guy but in New England. Nothing could have been done by them weeks before even to prevent this from happening. The main issues is TX isn't connected to the rest of the grid. It is all on its own thus making it not near as robust as it would be if it were like everyone else. This is a pretty extreme like 100yr extreme weather condition...
@Sweger Shanna Do you even have any idea what he’s actually talking about?
They have been preparing, however the grid is rated to withstand certain temperature ranges and there is a multiplicity if factors that can increase or decrease risk on different lines at any given day over any period of time. The combination of all lines (were talking like 50,000 sq miles) experiencing cold pressure significantly below normal conditions on lines likely past warranty is a massive order to coordinate and prepare for. They analyze load from every critical area of every city in the entire state. You’re talking hundreds of thousands to millions of points to analyze. Now they have extremely smart people and extremely power programs that are able to run power every single day in real time just so you can watch cat videos on UA-cam because you demand electricity every second of your existence and TAKE ALL OF THIS COMPLETELY FOR GRANTED.
@Terry Northrup that’s not what he was referring to. He’s referring to the potential impact, which is why prior they began reducing load impacts in an effort to avoid line blowouts which would lead to actual blackout for an extended period of time (look up what that’s actually like for region - 2003 Northeast Blackout).
@@SC-fj2zp Rolling outages are literally an engineered measure to prevent strain on distribution to avoid damage and cause a total blackout.
ERCOT is an ISO that reports to the State government of Texas, I have no idea where on earth you are getting this information that they are a private company somehow unregulated and seperate from all control.
THAT IS 100% WRONG
There should have been better preparation for all aspects in any emergency matters . This was a failure to do so and they should pay the price . Contact your attornies .
TLDW summary.
Reporter: A question
CEO: We just need to focus on getting the power back.
This happened due to republican’s failed policy
Wrong! All Texans should have taken "personal responsibility" and drilled their own gas wells in the back yard to run their own generators. Then none of this would have happened.