21:42 when he's yelling COBRA, he's not referring to the terrorist organisation, he's referring to his health plan and how it's not covering his chronic cough and voicebox problems.
What are you talking about? Orange, blue, green, and pink jumpsuits, in the exact perfect sizes, are always just hanging around in random junkyards! 😂🤣
Chris Latta, absolute legend.. Cobra Commander, Starscream, Wheeljack, Sparkplug, and laser beak! And Mr Burns and Moe from season 1 of the Simpsons...that blew my mind!
I actually love the idea that after Cobra was defeated and broken up, Cobra Commander sells his old technology to the mob. I like the touch that G.I. Joe music plays at the end of the episode too, I forgot about that part. ...I like to imagine Old Snake also killed Serpentor off-screen between the DIC series and this.
Probably do that after he regained his human form. Of course when cobra collapsed he managed to escape with all the money I decide to live the way he does.
@@RazorToaster Everything's untitled, although there are some quasi-official music releases where they make up titles; I don't acknowledge them. But what G.I. Joe music are we talking about? What I'm hearing comes from G1 Season 1.
I loved the part when Springer came up to his robot version and offered his "help," and how the guy literally kicked out the other guy to allow him to board. That was hilarious! 😂😂😂
It only makes sense Springer would know how his own body works. And also, Springer and Rodimus don't look half bad as humans. And Arcee is hot. Though, I always wondered what Optimus would look like if he was human. I always pictured him with dark hair, bushy eye brows, and a mustache.
@@MatthewTheWolf2029 True. Since that's what he would sound like. Also, I understand with Ultra Magnus as well since he may be not as old as Optimus, but close to it.
@@MatthewTheWolf2029 I did too for a time. What threw things off for me was in Transformers Prime when Ultra Magnus appeared and temporarily took charge of the Autobots when Optimus was, I think brainwashed by the Deceptions. Because U.M. sounded like he was more superior over Optimus. Whereas in the movie when Optimus was about to die and he was passing the matrix to Magnus, Magnus said he wasn't worthy of it.
@@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate That surprised me as well. What's even more surprising is that Magnus in that show was voiced by Michael Ironside; AKA Richter from Total Recall.
@@blastvortex he's very old by then... after yelling Cobra so many times that's what happens I guess! (and yes that includes the fact that he turned into a snake but came back after the GI-Joe movie as himself!) welcome to my geek talk! 🤣
@@blastvortex20 years after GIJoe so yeah he’s old. Say 60 to 70 if he ages like a human. Also all the chemicals he’s been exposed to couldn’t be helpful.
Or how, way back in the very first Transformers episode, with the exception of Shockwave, all main characters have earth related kibble in robot mode, and yet have cybertronian alt modes.
That’s how it can be in tv shows. Hero or villain, people will wear a color that fits their alternate form. Take Power rangers for example, you’ll notice that red rangers normally wear a red shirt or have some form of red on their person.
I swear that when I saw this back in the day it was first broadcast, they came out the trash bin unclothed, or at least it was heavily implied they were unclothed. Then when it was released later, there was a re-edit of scene.
It must be remembered that in Season 1 that the episode "Autobot Spike "had temporarily transferred Spike 's brain patterns into an Autobot body in order to have an operation performed on his human body. This essentially shows that the reverse can also occur in their version of the universe.
Unfortunately Transformers shifting the setting ahead 20 years while GI Joe was still set in the 80s pretty much ruined that since the Joes would have been too old for military heroics by that point. The staff mentioned they'd wanted to do more, but couldn't because of the setting change.
Hasbro/Paramount still have plans to do a Transformers-G.I. Joe crossover, in Live Action Bay-O-Matic cinema vision; the latest iteration, "Transformers: Rise of The Beasts" is supposed to be the first of a crossover trilogy.
Keeping his snake like appearance in Operation Dragonfire was one of the things DIC kept in continuity from the original GI Joe Season 3 drafts, possibly due to this episode. Also makes me wonder why Cobra Commander/Old Snake did not appear in COPS or GI Joe Extreme since both series take place around the same time as G1 Season 3.
21:16 preceptor : did you enjoy your sojourn rod? rod: maybe a little too much camera: zooms in on the girl that tried to seduce him as a human. rod got some
@@ahsenkhan5386 But what if cobra commander was the human form of starscream and after failing as a transformer to be leader, tried to be human instead and lead his own organization, then becoming a third incarnation as a snake...That voice is so iconic.
By the way, it was a beautiful sight to see how Arcee, after she turns into a real person, comes across as a beautiful and tough young lady! However, Springer still doesn't seem to take orders from Rodimus Prime or Ultra Magnus.
@@sjmarham ARCEE- “What’s this down here? You don’t have one Springer… wait… is this some kind of combiner human option where we can merge into a stronger form?”
@@verifeli Meanwhile, the Space Bridge is just an expanded-upon version of Robots In Disguise's Global Space Bridge, the protoforms from Beast Wars exist for Starscream's personal clone armada, and do I see Hot Shot representation in the three-parter episode Transwarped or not?
Fun fact: Hasbro has tried multiple times to make all their franchises part of a shared universe A bunch of comics plus this cartoon is the closest they’ve gotten
The closest thing aside from this episode is just an indirect one with Marissa Faireborn. She presumably is the daughter of Flint and Lady Jaye. Although back then, that wasn't established either.
I’m aware how G1 fans say how poor season 3 (the season that aired post-movie) was (hence there were episodes like this one); it’s understandable that this episode reminds fans of Starscream, who I still ask myself if (all the Autobots who made their debuts in the movie, and were the main Autobots thereafter - in season 3) Blurr, Kup, Rodimus Prime (and who he is if and when not wearing the Autobot matrix - Hot Rod), Springer, Ultra Magnus, Wheelie and Wreck Gar remember (given that, in Starscream’s only two season 3 appearances, where he’s a ghost, after the blast he took, back in the movie, at his ‘coronation’, when Galvatron transformed, for the first time, to laser cannon mode - in his first appearance as such - ‘Starscream’s Ghost’, and in the sequel, which is Starscream’s last appearance in the 80s American G1 cartoon - ‘Ghost in the Machine’, most of these Autobots, for some reason, know Starscream’s name, and especially act as if they remember him before Galvatron killed him at, again, his ‘coronation’).
The Transformers should’ve had a crossover with G.I. Joe in Animation. G.I. Joe allies themselves with Optimus Prime & the Autobots, while Cobra does the same with Megatron & the Decepticons. It would be a blast especially now that the Dinobots are a combiner team. I would have an all out Combiner & Titan showdown the fight would consist of these guys: Volcanicus, Superion, Defensor, Computron, Omega Supreme, Metroplex, & Fortress Maximus vs Devastator, Menasor, Bruticus, Abominus, Predaking, Trypticon & Scorponok
A precursor to the Pretenders, while Hasbro couldn't make heads or tails of the gimmick and featured them as Transformers in giant humans and monster shells, Takara came up with the idea the Pretenders were human sized and mass shifters like Megatron and Soundwave, the Autobots lived among humans since the stone age and guided them while the Decepticons took monster forms to rule over humans as gods. The armour on the humans was merely a power up otherwise they wore civilian clothes.
@@SuperMookles long answer: transformers got ported to japan (duh, they came from there as diaclone, micro man, macross and others) and became super popular there. when the american series ended, japanese mega media corp, TOEI got licenend to make new shows. toei ignored "the rebirth" 3 part finale and instead created a series of new shows. the 88' toy line introduced THE PRETENDERS in both markets. they were incorporated into the show SUPER ROBOT LIFEFORM TRANSFORMERS: SUPER GOD MASTERFORCE. the second of the japanese series. OP is describing many of the plot beats of that series. the main autobots for the first arc are a quartet of ancient autobots who have human disguises and can shrink and grow to match forms (mass shifting). the decepticon pretenders have monster forms and are the basis of many human monster legends like vampires werewolves and sea-monsters. the show also introduced the "Headmaster juniors" a trio of kids who had power armor that allowed them to become heads to lifeless transformer bodies. the decpticons would eventually get thier own human MASTERS in the form of mega and giga and their robot called overlord and the (don't laugh) breast masters (yes these toys were japanese exclusives). and the greatest bit was Girai. introduced about half way though the show, he was a japanese american truck driver who drove a VERY FAMILIAR TRUCK. after a crash caused by decepticons, he found that his truck was also a lifeless transformer body and became it's powermaster as GODGINRAI. the toy was sold here as POWERMASTER OPTIMUS PRIME.
Both shows share a reporter character named Hector Ramirez. He also shows up in "Jem" and "Inhumanoids." It's my theory that the reason the Decepticons took over Cybertron for the movie is because the Autobots decided to help clean up Cobra and the Inhumanoids, giving the Decepticons an opening.
Personally, I like to believe that all of the Hasbro cartoons of the 80s take place in the same universe. Timeline of events: The MASS Device mini series The Revenge of Cobra mini series Transformers Season 1 Pyramids of Darkness mini series Transformers Season 2, GI Joe Season 1, Jem (Happening concurrently) GI Joe Season 2 GI Joe: The Movie The DIC GI Joe Series Inhumanoids Transformers: The Movie (The year 2005) Transformers Season 3 (One year after the movie) The Rebirth (Transformers Season 4) C.O.P.S (13-14 years after the end of the Transformers cartoon) Visionaries (On another planet, so it could be happening anywhere in my little makeshift timeline)
Which also means that G.I. Joe A Real American Hero takes place in the 1980s, this episode takes place 20 years after the events of the series because Old Snake is an older version of Cobra Commander
Cobra Commander was so much more ruthless after his transformation into a Snake. This episode shows just how much more effective he was using the old tech from Cobra in an effective way!
Needless to say when I first saw this episode I was shocked to see Cobra Commander was still around and one other thing I was wondering about is if the Autobots knew about G.I. Joe and vice versa sadly we may never know even though they met in the comic books but never in any of the cartoons.
The best guest star in my opinion. I wonder if C.C. used Dr Mindbender's techniques in genetics and technologies which gave life to Serpentor in order to make the synthetic bodies.
yes. this technique was used in the episodes "the synthoid conspiracy" and "there is no place like springfeild" (my favorite episode of GIJoe) before "rise serpentor, rise"
Honestly this Victor guy was way lucky that he had Cobra Commander, an professional and serious supervillain to help him out, at least until he got busted.
Old Snake's strange device looks more like a Zentreadi sizing chamber from Robotech: The Macross Saga, that cloned Autobots Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Springer and Arcee into Dick Gautier, Jack Angel, Neil Ross and Susan Blu as human beings respectively, while the four Autobot Husks that became like Diaclone robots for the human villains to pilot them, G1 toy character Ultra Magnus who was once known as Powered Convoy in the Diaclone toys.
This was one of the S3 episodes we talked about in school the next day. To wit: "DID YOU SEE COBRA COMMANDER ON THE TRANSFORMERS YESTERDAY??!?" And of course, that meant that what happened to CC in G.I. JOE: THE MOVIE - namely Golobulus turning him into a snake - was reversed at some point in the ensuing twenty years. We were so happy about that. Yeah, the Commander was a baddie, but he was one of our FAVOURITE baddies! Convenient how the human Autos found colour-coded clothes to wear! @8.24: Looks like human Arcee had some rack on her. This experiment was a success!!
What would have been really cool is if Draff’s girl was in reality lady Jaye or Scarlet in deep cover. I mean she did seem to be reluctant to watch the “deaths” of the autobots
If I'm right, it happens to be the same studio that worked on a bunch of G.I. Joe eps, Sei Young (maybe it's another nod to the crossover). They also did virtually the entire "Defenders of the Earth" series.
wait....Is there A THIRD CROSSOVER HERE? Check Out 5:30 of this clip. IS that the Chief from the series C.O.P.S.? That looks a little bit like BulletProof. They are in a futuristic city like the city in that series as well.
I was 🤣 at the looks on the guards’ faces in Metroplex when human Arcee told them who she was, and that she was trying to explain what happened to her, Springer, Magnus, and Rodimus!
@@pureserenity524 i just looked up a picture. you are correct. she looks like susan blu. i had not noticed til after this rewatch that arcee's human form does not have "leia buns" like her cybertonian normal. this gives a deeper context as to why.
@@pathevermore3683 I think producers came up with this themselves to have something of recognition in it such as the color of the clothes, the human shape and of course a small cameo of Cobra Commander as the villain Old Snake with a very familiar but a small failed statement at the end when he leaves.
This episode was great! But if anyone would agree that four autobots weren't that great! What If Rodimus, Magnus, springer, arcee, Kup and Grimlock all 6 got captured and had their minds transferred into human bodies! I would love to see a human dumb Grimlock and a real human old man Kup 😆 would anyone agree with me? Kup and Grimlock too should have had their minds transferred!
at the beginning of the episode to this day i couldnt help but chuckle at Rodimus taunting the looters and fiddling with the stolen volitile container like it was some kind of toy.
Old Snake AKA Cobra Commander, who is also AKA Chris Latta, the voice of both Cobra Commander, Starscream & Wheeljack. Rest In Peace Chris Latta.
I love his cameo. XD
It is sad he left us so early, feel for the man still to this day.
Don't forget the voice of Sparkplug too lol
And Reflector.
@@TheRealMrRoby78 Right.
21:42 when he's yelling COBRA, he's not referring to the terrorist organisation, he's referring to his health plan and how it's not covering his chronic cough and voicebox problems.
Exactly what I thought of as a kid
Evidently, they don’t make medicine like they used to.
Cobra Insurance, a proud subsidiary of Extensive Enterprises.
😂😂😂😂
Noat $900 a week also.
I love how they just happen to find outfits that fit them and match their machine color. Such convenient random happenstance
What are you talking about? Orange, blue, green, and pink jumpsuits, in the exact perfect sizes, are always just hanging around in random junkyards! 😂🤣
I was thinking the same thing lol
Chris Latta, absolute legend.. Cobra Commander, Starscream, Wheeljack, Sparkplug, and laser beak! And Mr Burns and Moe from season 1 of the Simpsons...that blew my mind!
And he was in some episodes of Star Trek TNG!
And Seinfeld, the guy chasing Kramer on the train.
Don’t forget his work on inhumanoids and visionairies
@@nunyabizness3866 The latter of which was his most badass role in a Hasbro G1 cartoon.
@@vxrdrummer A Klingon commander who got uppity over being betrayed, ironically enough. XD
Old Snake to Marissa Fairborn:
I knew your parents quite well
I actually love the idea that after Cobra was defeated and broken up, Cobra Commander sells his old technology to the mob. I like the touch that G.I. Joe music plays at the end of the episode too, I forgot about that part.
...I like to imagine Old Snake also killed Serpentor off-screen between the DIC series and this.
Probably do that after he regained his human form. Of course when cobra collapsed he managed to escape with all the money I decide to live the way he does.
Wasn't he turned into a snake?
What was the name of the GI Joe music used at the end of the episode anyway?
@@RazorToaster Everything's untitled, although there are some quasi-official music releases where they make up titles; I don't acknowledge them. But what G.I. Joe music are we talking about? What I'm hearing comes from G1 Season 1.
@@JoseBronxRican at the end, when Cobra is talking about Draph.
Míster Latta is a legend... Cobra Commander, Starscream, Wheeljack, and other voices.
And Decompose from the lesser known Hasbro cartoon Inhumanoids.
Chris Latta will be missed
I loved the part when Springer came up to his robot version and offered his "help," and how the guy literally kicked out the other guy to allow him to board. That was hilarious! 😂😂😂
It only makes sense Springer would know how his own body works. And also, Springer and Rodimus don't look half bad as humans. And Arcee is hot. Though, I always wondered what Optimus would look like if he was human. I always pictured him with dark hair, bushy eye brows, and a mustache.
@@MatthewTheWolf2029 True. Since that's what he would sound like. Also, I understand with Ultra Magnus as well since he may be not as old as Optimus, but close to it.
@@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate For some reason, I always assumed he and Optimus were the same age.
@@MatthewTheWolf2029 I did too for a time. What threw things off for me was in Transformers Prime when Ultra Magnus appeared and temporarily took charge of the Autobots when Optimus was, I think brainwashed by the Deceptions. Because U.M. sounded like he was more superior over Optimus. Whereas in the movie when Optimus was about to die and he was passing the matrix to Magnus, Magnus said he wasn't worthy of it.
@@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate That surprised me as well. What's even more surprising is that Magnus in that show was voiced by Michael Ironside; AKA Richter from Total Recall.
21:42 Always found his Cobra cry here amusing.
"They don't make terrorist like they used.. Cccoooorrrbb cough, cough, aaa!!" And who was defeated always, snake breath?
@@darrellhall6622 Whatever.
Yeah, he actually sounds kinda sick though. Always wondered about that.
@@blastvortex he's very old by then... after yelling Cobra so many times that's what happens I guess! (and yes that includes the fact that he turned into a snake but came back after the GI-Joe movie as himself!) welcome to my geek talk! 🤣
@@blastvortex20 years after GIJoe so yeah he’s old. Say 60 to 70 if he ages like a human. Also all the chemicals he’s been exposed to couldn’t be helpful.
I find it kind of funny that Autobots--now turned into humans--found jumpsuits that resembled their respective color scheme.
Or how, way back in the very first Transformers episode, with the exception of Shockwave, all main characters have earth related kibble in robot mode, and yet have cybertronian alt modes.
That’s how it can be in tv shows. Hero or villain, people will wear a color that fits their alternate form. Take Power rangers for example, you’ll notice that red rangers normally wear a red shirt or have some form of red on their person.
@@captainbuckets1134 yep, exactly. I just thought of that too, lol.
I swear that when I saw this back in the day it was first broadcast, they came out the trash bin unclothed, or at least it was heavily implied they were unclothed. Then when it was released later, there was a re-edit of scene.
Trope: Color Coded For Your Convenience.
21:30-21:48 was one of my favorite parts of this. Gotta love the whole buildup of Old Snake reminiscing on the old days. ;)
It must be remembered that in Season 1 that the episode "Autobot Spike "had temporarily transferred Spike 's brain patterns into an Autobot body in order to have an operation performed on his human body. This essentially shows that the reverse can also occur in their version of the universe.
Bumblebee was also curious as to what a robot inside a human body would be like
Does deadly friend comes to mind
"Autobot Spike" was the first episode of Season Two.
The appearance of “Old Snake” and the gimmickry of the Transformers as humans are the only things that make this one memorable IMO.
what about rod having "too good" of a time?
@@pathevermore3683 We all try forgetting abt it
Missed opportunity to have more GI Joe crossovers.
Transformers and GIJOE crossovers would have been awesome
Unfortunately Transformers shifting the setting ahead 20 years while GI Joe was still set in the 80s pretty much ruined that since the Joes would have been too old for military heroics by that point. The staff mentioned they'd wanted to do more, but couldn't because of the setting change.
They also showed what Flint would have looked like aged 20 years (all be it a Quintason projection)
Hasbro/Paramount still have plans to do a Transformers-G.I. Joe crossover, in Live Action Bay-O-Matic cinema vision; the latest iteration, "Transformers: Rise of The Beasts" is supposed to be the first of a crossover trilogy.
Cobr-hack,huagh,phew, AAaugh
Everyone remembers this episode for Cobra Commander, and rightly so. But not as many people remember that this was the episode Rodimus got laid...
I remember this episode Springer was worried he needed a shave. Never knew autobots were that aware of human biological functions.
Rodimus allegedly got laid....
@@ixiahj they been on earth 20.years so.yes they had many encounters with humans by now
What if she got pregnant by Rodimus🤣
As in "to rest"?
Love the uncannily accurate depiction of early 21st century style!
I remember how everybody wore lavender double-breasted overcoats with tan suede trim back in 2006.
@@JanusKastin and let's not forget the rocket-powered gull-wing limousines that were all the rage in '06.
We still wear it today
After watching this episode, I'm curious to see how Blurr, Kup, Wheelie, Bumble Bee, Jazz, Galvatron, and Soundwave would look like as human.
Well, we see human Bumblebee in an episode of Transformers Animated.
@@SuperJamz64 Right. Of course.
"COBRA!!!! cough cough." To this day, I wonder who that masked man was? If he is still a man. ;)
He's back to being more man than reptile if the events of "Operation Dragonfire" are considered part of the canon.
@@drixg555 His hand have Reptile scale in this episode.
Cobra Commander.
Keeping his snake like appearance in Operation Dragonfire was one of the things DIC kept in continuity from the original GI Joe Season 3 drafts, possibly due to this episode. Also makes me wonder why Cobra Commander/Old Snake did not appear in COPS or GI Joe Extreme since both series take place around the same time as G1 Season 3.
@@JAC3DG33K You got me.
21:16 preceptor : did you enjoy your sojourn rod?
rod: maybe a little too much
camera: zooms in on the girl that tried to seduce him as a human.
rod got some
"Hey baby, why don't you let me show you why they call me RODimus in the first place?!"
@@TheRealMrRoby78 And that's why they called him Hot Rod.
Rodimus "I get b!tches" Prime
Would be interesting if Old Snake was Starscream all this time.
Wouldn't make sense, but there's a feeling it would.
He could be. After all, those other 4 became human...
@@magnusdiridian it a great I dea but no it literally is Cobra command
@@ahsenkhan5386 But what if cobra commander was the human form of starscream and after failing as a transformer to be leader, tried to be human instead and lead his own organization, then becoming a third incarnation as a snake...That voice is so iconic.
His spark can possess anyone
By the way, it was a beautiful sight to see how Arcee, after she turns into a real person, comes across as a beautiful and tough young lady! However, Springer still doesn't seem to take orders from Rodimus Prime or Ultra Magnus.
won;t she be Asian ?
@@ahsenkhan5386 Why would she be?
Springer probably still.sees rodimus as his fellow autobot a punk rebel teen
I like to think that their human forms look like their actual voice actors.
Can someone explain how Springer caught that falling man without shredding him to pieces? 😂
They was lazy in the 80s when it came to details in animation
I am not going to lie. I was really disappointed that he did not get shredded to into pieces.
I wonder what springer and arcee were doing whilst waiting for Perceptor to reverse the process...
@@sjmarham ARCEE- “What’s this down here? You don’t have one Springer… wait… is this some kind of combiner human option where we can merge into a stronger form?”
I had much more fun assuming he became cold cuts 🤣
17:00 I'm surprised Kup didn't recognize the sound of Arcee's voice. Or perhaps old age has affected his sound censors/ears?
Possibly. He's good need to retire soon
Of course they turn human and just so happens to run into uniforms that match their robot colors lol. I love these old transformers episodes.
8:15 this is exactly like those episodes of "Transformers: Animated (2007)" where the Autobots are temporarily turned to humans.
Human Error.
Transformers Animated has lots of nod to G1.
@@verifeli Meanwhile, the Space Bridge is just an expanded-upon version of Robots In Disguise's Global Space Bridge, the protoforms from Beast Wars exist for Starscream's personal clone armada, and do I see Hot Shot representation in the three-parter episode Transwarped or not?
Technically was a illusion by Soundwave
One of the absolute BEST Transformers cartoons ever - GI Joe crossover with Cobra Commander! I was doing flips off the couch when this premiered.
So I really really got to be honest here, I am seriously so glad that the G1 Transformers was totally in the same universe as G1 G.I. Joe.
I like how they modeled Ultra Magnus' human body after Robert Stack.
More like that superhero from fantastic 4
Although it would've been great if he voiced Magnus instead of Jack Angel.
@@devares2006movie version is Robert Stack
I wonder how many kids who saw this episode in 1986 had missed the point of snake being cobra commander until the end when he yells the iconic "cobra"
He did have the mask when you first see him.
@@WizardReel yes but I certainly would have missed it until the end when I was a kid🤣
He has the metal mask and his mutated skin. Oh I knew lol
Fun fact: Hasbro has tried multiple times to make all their franchises part of a shared universe
A bunch of comics plus this cartoon is the closest they’ve gotten
Dial Tone is in the latest transformers movie.
@@deepsea5266 are you talking about gi joe in rise of the beasts?
Rest in power, Jack Angel, my 2nd favorite voice of Ultra Magnus. The voice over actor who's got a angel's voice to hear. (1930-2021)😇
The One Episode with No Decepticons involved!!!
Starscream got transplanted into a human body, and became cobra comander
Awesome episode, too bad the G.I.Joe crossover wasn't more in depth..
A missed opportunity from Hasbro.
It’s sad that there’s never been a GI Joe/Transformers crossover on tv or film.
@@shadowdramon01 At least it did in the comics.
The closest thing aside from this episode is just an indirect one with Marissa Faireborn. She presumably is the daughter of Flint and Lady Jaye. Although back then, that wasn't established either.
@@alanguages true. Although it was hinted in the episode "The Killing Jar".
Old Snake ( Aka Cobra Commander ) should've appear more in season 3.
And AKA Chris Latta, The voice of both Cobra Commander & Starsceam.
It is fun that they found clothes that match their robot's color.
I’m aware how G1 fans say how poor season 3 (the season that aired post-movie) was (hence there were episodes like this one); it’s understandable that this episode reminds fans of Starscream, who I still ask myself if (all the Autobots who made their debuts in the movie, and were the main Autobots thereafter - in season 3) Blurr, Kup, Rodimus Prime (and who he is if and when not wearing the Autobot matrix - Hot Rod), Springer, Ultra Magnus, Wheelie and Wreck Gar remember (given that, in Starscream’s only two season 3 appearances, where he’s a ghost, after the blast he took, back in the movie, at his ‘coronation’, when Galvatron transformed, for the first time, to laser cannon mode - in his first appearance as such - ‘Starscream’s Ghost’, and in the sequel, which is Starscream’s last appearance in the 80s American G1 cartoon - ‘Ghost in the Machine’, most of these Autobots, for some reason, know Starscream’s name, and especially act as if they remember him before Galvatron killed him at, again, his ‘coronation’).
The Transformers should’ve had a crossover with G.I. Joe in Animation. G.I. Joe allies themselves with Optimus Prime & the Autobots, while Cobra does the same with Megatron & the Decepticons.
It would be a blast especially now that the Dinobots are a combiner team. I would have an all out Combiner & Titan showdown the fight would consist of these guys:
Volcanicus, Superion, Defensor, Computron, Omega Supreme, Metroplex, & Fortress Maximus vs Devastator, Menasor, Bruticus, Abominus, Predaking, Trypticon & Scorponok
"You're gonna ICE them robots?"
*Drath jerks his head to his left*
"Is dat a YES?!?"
A precursor to the Pretenders, while Hasbro couldn't make heads or tails of the gimmick and featured them as Transformers in giant humans and monster shells, Takara came up with the idea the Pretenders were human sized and mass shifters like Megatron and Soundwave, the Autobots lived among humans since the stone age and guided them while the Decepticons took monster forms to rule over humans as gods. The armour on the humans was merely a power up otherwise they wore civilian clothes.
What?
@@SuperMookles toys, this set up a toy line
@@SuperMookles long answer: transformers got ported to japan (duh, they came from there as diaclone, micro man, macross and others) and became super popular there. when the american series ended, japanese mega media corp, TOEI got licenend to make new shows. toei ignored "the rebirth" 3 part finale and instead created a series of new shows. the 88' toy line introduced THE PRETENDERS in both markets. they were incorporated into the show SUPER ROBOT LIFEFORM TRANSFORMERS: SUPER GOD MASTERFORCE. the second of the japanese series. OP is describing many of the plot beats of that series. the main autobots for the first arc are a quartet of ancient autobots who have human disguises and can shrink and grow to match forms (mass shifting). the decepticon pretenders have monster forms and are the basis of many human monster legends like vampires werewolves and sea-monsters. the show also introduced the "Headmaster juniors" a trio of kids who had power armor that allowed them to become heads to lifeless transformer bodies. the decpticons would eventually get thier own human MASTERS in the form of mega and giga and their robot called overlord and the (don't laugh) breast masters (yes these toys were japanese exclusives). and the greatest bit was Girai. introduced about half way though the show, he was a japanese american truck driver who drove a VERY FAMILIAR TRUCK. after a crash caused by decepticons, he found that his truck was also a lifeless transformer body and became it's powermaster as GODGINRAI. the toy was sold here as POWERMASTER OPTIMUS PRIME.
I like how they made Arcee’s human avatar look like Susan Blu.
15:15 Funny. In most shots, Ultra-Magnus has a full set of hair. But in this one particular shot, he looks like he's balding.
Liked their attention to detail on CC, you can even see his scaly snake hand / post GI Joe movie / DIC episodes
But the dic series was treated as non canon
This episode is proof that G.I.Joe and the Transformers exist in the same universe.
Especially if Marissa Fairborn is truly the daughter of Lady Jay and Flint.
Both shows share a reporter character named Hector Ramirez. He also shows up in "Jem" and "Inhumanoids." It's my theory that the reason the Decepticons took over Cybertron for the movie is because the Autobots decided to help clean up Cobra and the Inhumanoids, giving the Decepticons an opening.
Personally, I like to believe that all of the Hasbro cartoons of the 80s take place in the same universe.
Timeline of events:
The MASS Device mini series
The Revenge of Cobra mini series
Transformers Season 1
Pyramids of Darkness mini series
Transformers Season 2, GI Joe Season 1, Jem (Happening concurrently)
GI Joe Season 2
GI Joe: The Movie
The DIC GI Joe Series
Inhumanoids
Transformers: The Movie (The year 2005)
Transformers Season 3 (One year after the movie)
The Rebirth (Transformers Season 4)
C.O.P.S (13-14 years after the end of the Transformers cartoon)
Visionaries (On another planet, so it could be happening anywhere in my little makeshift timeline)
@@domtaylor1887 Oh man, you've just given me my (re)watchlist for the rest of the year, haha.
Which also means that G.I. Joe A Real American Hero takes place in the 1980s, this episode takes place 20 years after the events of the series because Old Snake is an older version of Cobra Commander
Isn't it funny how after the Autobots are turned human, they find clothes that match their respective color schemes.
Coincidence maybe.
So we're also not going to talk about that this episode doesn't features any Decepticons?
11 months and only im replying. so the answer is no.
I remember a comic book where GI Joe and Cobra join Autobot to fight the Decepticons. There was a robots form which one look like Snake-eye.
dreamwave? that was a snake eyes mecha of cybertronian design.
Arcee, mid 20s, Rodimus 30s, Springer 40s, Magnus 60ish.
Cobra Commander was so much more ruthless after his transformation into a Snake. This episode shows just how much more effective he was using the old tech from Cobra in an effective way!
Too bad his organization is no longer around and he's all that's left
Needless to say when I first saw this episode I was shocked to see Cobra Commander was still around and one other thing I was wondering about is if the Autobots knew about G.I. Joe and vice versa sadly we may never know even though they met in the comic books but never in any of the cartoons.
Your wish has come true
A live action GI Joe/ Transformers movie would be bad ass.
The movie Transformers:Rise Of The Beasts is prove that that will happen.
9:05 I expected a deep fench kiss of Human Springer and Human Arcee.
The best guest star in my opinion.
I wonder if C.C. used Dr Mindbender's techniques in genetics and technologies which gave life to Serpentor in order to make the synthetic bodies.
yes. this technique was used in the episodes "the synthoid conspiracy" and "there is no place like springfeild" (my favorite episode of GIJoe) before "rise serpentor, rise"
The technology was developed by Zartan. But I can't recall the episode. It was the same episode where shipwrecks memory or reality was changed.
@@XTRABIG there's no place like Springfield is the episode where Joe's were melting in Shipwreck's dream
It's a shame that this is probably the only episode that really makes use of the futuristic setting
Ultra Magnus as a human looks like Flint from GI Joe A Real American Hero
18:42 they used a laser blast sound from Star Wars The Emperor Strikes Back. Specific the blast that hit C-3PO
Honestly this Victor guy was way lucky that he had Cobra Commander, an professional and serious supervillain to help him out, at least until he got busted.
Old Snake's strange device looks more like a Zentreadi sizing chamber from Robotech: The Macross Saga, that cloned Autobots Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Springer and Arcee into Dick Gautier, Jack Angel, Neil Ross and Susan Blu as human beings respectively, while the four Autobot Husks that became like Diaclone robots for the human villains to pilot them, G1 toy character Ultra Magnus who was once known as Powered Convoy in the Diaclone toys.
It's the same synthoid technology that Cobra had used to create Serpentor.
Wow, They thought 2006 was going to be a lot different.
I wish there was a proper G.I. Joe and Transformers crossover.
Bumble Bee should have been in this episode since in autobot spike he wonder what atransformer as a human would be like.
Wow! What an episode!😮 I had never seen this one.
This was one of the S3 episodes we talked about in school the next day. To wit: "DID YOU SEE COBRA COMMANDER ON THE TRANSFORMERS YESTERDAY??!?" And of course, that meant that what happened to CC in G.I. JOE: THE MOVIE - namely Golobulus turning him into a snake - was reversed at some point in the ensuing twenty years. We were so happy about that. Yeah, the Commander was a baddie, but he was one of our FAVOURITE baddies!
Convenient how the human Autos found colour-coded clothes to wear!
@8.24: Looks like human Arcee had some rack on her. This experiment was a success!!
What would have been really cool is if Draff’s girl was in reality lady Jaye or Scarlet in deep cover. I mean she did seem to be reluctant to watch the “deaths” of the autobots
No I would go with the fact that she actually was a descendent of the Joe’s. And she was doing a mission to stop draft.
1:11 That guy has been blendered! Lol!
21:43 it was at that moment where it was confirmed, that GI Joe is canon to the Transformers universe.
Springer definitely killed that guy he 'caught' at the start. Humans don't do well trying to pass through spinning helicopter blades.
The animation looks pretty good for season 3. I love the backgrounds. Too bad they using the wrong animation models for Springer and Arcee.
If I'm right, it happens to be the same studio that worked on a bunch of G.I. Joe eps, Sei Young (maybe it's another nod to the crossover). They also did virtually the entire "Defenders of the Earth" series.
One of the best crossover
Snake sounds exactly like Starscream. Why do I get the feeling that Starscream's ghost has taken on a human body or a human form?
It's Cobra Commander, who in the GI Joe cartoon that aired at around the same time as Transformers did was also voiced by Chris Latta.
"I was a man... Yessss, ohhhh yessss...."
This is the Closest We'll ever get to An Animated GI Joe/Transformers Crossover episode.
“They just don’t make terrorists like they used to”
That line aged HORRIBLY
If only because his idea of "classic" terrorists failed about as thoroughly as Drath did. At least 65 times.
3:52-4:01 Was the guy that got punched out Major Bludd?
Ultra Magnus, Kup, Rodimus Prime and Arcee finally got their Autobot body(20:57)--(21:07)
wait....Is there A THIRD CROSSOVER HERE? Check Out 5:30 of this clip. IS that the Chief from the series C.O.P.S.? That looks a little bit like BulletProof. They are in a futuristic city like the city in that series as well.
14:44 so yeah, ultra magnus and Arcee are surprised as well. Wow
One of the all time best G1 episodes. Cooooooobra....cough!
3:08 - Mr. Draff be wearing that One Piece drip.
Just slinging his coat over his back like it's a cape with the sleeves hanging off his shoulders.
this episode is the continue of "Ghost in the machine" where Starscream's spark was the Old Snake, Starscream is live
Nope that’s Cobra Commander
Best crossover episode of the 1980s.
Rodimus have 2 weaknesses
1. Being hot-headed
2. The other which all Primes have in common, compassion for others and their act of self-sacrificing.
Friendly reminder that Perceptor managed to REVERSE ENGINEER COBRA TECHNOLOGY.
I was 🤣 at the looks on the guards’ faces in Metroplex when human Arcee told them who she was, and that she was trying to explain what happened to her, Springer, Magnus, and Rodimus!
Like Frank Welker . Chris Latta guess starred on Star Trek the next Generation and Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
Now that was a great ending. :)
This is the closest we’ll get to a G.I.Joe/Transformers crossover
13:36 So, how do you fell after seeing yourself in your own body, Springer?
Pretenders, prehistory😁
Goddamn! Arcee's human form is cute!
I'm pretty sure they based her Human appearance on her voice actress
She'd get one for sure!
@@pureserenity524 i just looked up a picture. you are correct. she looks like susan blu. i had not noticed til after this rewatch that arcee's human form does not have "leia buns" like her cybertonian normal. this gives a deeper context as to why.
@@pathevermore3683 I think producers came up with this themselves to have something of recognition in it such as the color of the clothes, the human shape and of course a small cameo of Cobra Commander as the villain Old Snake with a very familiar but a small failed statement at the end when he leaves.
21:17 is slightly suggestive.
1:09 excuse me? That man's diced.
9:53-9:54 Of course he of all people should know that.
Everybody's talking about the GI Joe connection, but nobody is talking about how this episode is basically Diaclone?
This episode was great! But if anyone would agree that four autobots weren't that great! What If Rodimus, Magnus, springer, arcee, Kup and Grimlock all 6 got captured and had their minds transferred into human bodies! I would love to see a human dumb Grimlock and a real human old man Kup 😆 would anyone agree with me? Kup and Grimlock too should have had their minds transferred!
Transformers and GI Joe mashup, how awesome it would be back then. Just watched it and its still awesome to have just watched it. takes me back
Wait, this isn't transformers... *This is Diaclone*
Good point
We have a meme!
Oh, you mean "♪DAIII! ♪AH! ♪KURO-NNNNNNNN!"
at the beginning of the episode to this day i couldnt help but chuckle at Rodimus taunting the looters and fiddling with the stolen volitile container like it was some kind of toy.
I was looking for this episode with Cobra Commander?. Glad I finally came across.
1:50 it be funny to have an ultra Magnus figure that transformed like this
This is the closest thing we’ll get to a Transformers/G.I. Joe crossover on film.
Watch the post credit in the new transformers movie…. The next film will have gi joe and cobra in it… the next transformers movie.