The next generation of trail riding technology has arrived. We're proud to announce the Trail Tech Voyager Pro! The Connected Riders GPS! Info at www.trailtech.net/voyagerpro
Amazing Unit Guys!!! We just wrapped up our Step-by-Step installation. Well thought out, every thing needed was in the kit. Nice work! ua-cam.com/video/8dbWkvbBRic/v-deo.html
Thanks for the reply! The main and most important reason I use my Voyager is for safety, so I don't get lost or to find my way home if I do. I also used to plot new routes and edit past rides very easily with the old Rideleader which I can't do anywhere as well now with the new Rideleader, I cant even change my distance units to Kms! I have been checking regularly for improvements but have seen no changes for more than a year. Steve
Steve! We are working hard to smooth out the new Rideleader.com issues that our users have told us about. Everything we do in Rideleader currently is in Miles units, however on the Voyager Pro GPS unit itself we do have the option to change to KM and imported GPX tracks will do the same do the conversion calculations automatically. We did take a temporary step back to focus on Voyager Pro's release, but will continue to add more features and stability to Rideleader moving forward.
The issue I see with this setup is that everyone in the group needs to have the Voyager Pro. A lot of what this system does is a bit redundant (engine RPM, speed, temp., etc) Also, there is no ELB/ELT so I would still have to fork out $300-400 for for a satellite communicator and mount it. Why not use Gaia GPS on my phone and a satellite communicator along with Sena headset? Buddy tracking with about a mile range isn’t quite long enough and should you get separated more than a mile you are sort of screwed. At that point having a Satellite communicator with which you can send coordinates would be nice. Seams to me, a large phone (or a small tablet) paired to a Sena headset is still the best option and as long as you use leather gloves the touch screen isn’t an issue.
I have the old version and I think it is brilliant, but they have changed the original RideLeader software which was also excellent to a web based version that is extremely limited in its functions and although they have told me they will be improving it, it hasn't changed in 18 months...hopefully now that they have this new version voyager up and running they will have time to work on the software. When and if they improve their Ride Leader program I will definitely buy the new version.
We are working on further development of the Rideleader platform. The GPX trails that are currently in Rideleader can be downloaded and imported to the Pro, like the original Voyager. You won't be disappointed if you pick up a Pro in the future!
Thanks for the reply! The main and most important reason I use my Voyager is for safety, so I don't get lost or to find my way home if I do. I also used to plot new routes and edit past rides very easily with the old Rideleader which I can't do anywhere as well now with the new Rideleader, I cant even change my distance units to Kms! I have been checking regularly for improvements but have seen no changes for more than a year. Steve
Can it be securely locked to prevent theft? Looks really amazing and can even replace or assist a speedo/tacho, which for weight conscious people is amazing.
It has a very small allen screw thats under the mount. It can be turned in so that you can't use move the spring loaded lock in clip. Truth is that if someone wants to steal it, they can break the mount off. Not easy but not foolproof
I just ordered one! How does the multiple rider tracking work? Wouldn't the devices have to communicate with each other? And if so could the signal be lost in mountainous terrain or long distance?
Hey Moto Fixery! Good questions. First, both parties have to be Voyager Pro enabled. Buddy Tracking is done by FM signal. Average distance is .5-1.5 miles in trail terrain. The more obstacles, the less distance. In open areas the longer the distance.
@@trailtechinc Is the unit 4GLTE enabled? And if so will the Buddy Tracking range increase as long as there is service? (I am thinking adventure bikes and street bikes here.)
The only thing I don't get is the touchscreen.. Can you do everything without using the touchscreen as well? Otherwise, i'm assuming it doesn't work with gloves on?
Trail Tech, can you explain the product life cycle and reasoning? I see the v1.2 software menu/gauges updates and Polaris application add but is that the key differences expected for the June '23 hardware preorder release? This product seems long in the tooth after this many years and these minor improvements mentioned. Please tell us we can expext more.
I'm curious if the unit gives you longitude and latitude coordinates of your location, also can you access and change the Datum / Global Positioning Format to match the region you are riding in? This is very helpful for pinpointing your exact location on a paper map. Thanks!
Where can we see a sample of the background map that shows the level of detail? And will there be a feature for end users to make their own custom background maps like we can for the Garmin Montana?
I like it! BUT, how good is the on and off road mapping for third world countries. There are a lot of good GPS devices and even apps that do a great job while traveling in the US, but try traveling all through America and good luck with that. I need and I am in search of a GPS to take with me through my journey through all of America, not just the US. From the most southern part of America in of Argentina to the most northern part of America in Alaska. And of course with accurate and up to date information.
GPS measure's speed as if you are moving across flat ground , signals can be blocked by building's , trees , and tunnels. Also the position of satellites can effect GPS readings .
Right, I was surprised to see the new Beta built with that version. A new VPro is due out in June 2023 now also so look at that mount to see if it fits and worth the wait.
Hello Trail Tech. Q: is it possible to add this unit to my 2016 KTM 690 Enduro R without removing my stock unit? In other words, can I add it on top of the stock unit?
Allmost what I am waiting for my bikes. Aftermarket on and offroad vehicle display and Interface. But for me its more about integration than doubling functions. Got a Smartphone and bluetooth headset with me anyway. So eg killer features for me would be: - oil temp warning on headset while audio navigating on phone apps like maps osmand or kurviger. - big display of arrow and distance to next action from phone app on the vehicle screen. If this could be in future updates I will be Your customer.
It comes pre-loaded with topo for the lower 48 United States. We have other maps available for download from our website depending on where you are located.
Trail Tech I understand that it has Topo but can trail maps be loaded on it? For example, on a garmin you can load California Trail Maps to see names of trails as you come up on them in order to not have to pre-plan a route in rideleader. Thanks for your help in trying to understand this. I love my original Voyager on my Beta but am really wanting to be able to overlay a trail map like the other GPS units out there.
Oh! That makes more sense. It will be able to load the GPX files like the previous Voyager for tracks and routes. However, using our Rideleader.com site you can save multiple trails at a time and load them up to Voyager Pro.
Brother, I'm in Africa, I'm very much concern about the phone aspect of it. Will I need to decode the phone to be able to use it here in Ghana? There are some phones we import from Europe or the usa but they do not work unless they are decoded. Also, how do I get this? I need it for my dl1000
We ride in Nt, usually 5 to 10 people riding in outback Australia, we currently have UHF with headsets as our comms, way way way out of Bluetooth range, we are talking min 10k apart from first rider to last rider in the dust bowl, I just wonder if the buddy tracking will work in those kind of situation?
How are your comms working out now, is that still your best way to connect with other riders once you get 2+ km apart? This unit was pricey given its age. The new model Voyager Pro is due out June 2023 on a preorder release but no mention of that distance range capacity.
@J r. when phone coverage is not available, UHF is the only way to go. Install an antenna(flexible) if possible I had a hand-held mounted to my strap on my backpack near my shoulder with a wires going to the handlebars for a button I can push on the go to transmit. My headset in the helmet wasn't loud enough when at speed, and I had to custom build an amplifier circuit with aux for music. I had a set-up way over engineered as I am an electronic developer. So it will pause music from my phone when transmitting or receiving. Next plan was to install an antenna as I had issues communicating with people behind me. Only issue was could never finalise on a location on the bike. Didn't want it on the bars or at the back for easy dismount or porking my eye out. Even thought of mounting on the helmet (too wobbly and gets caught on stuff. ) finally expermented on mounting on the back pack like the army. But too many cables to plug and unplug at every stop. I cable was enough trouble as it was. ramped up the transmit voltage to 10w form legally allowed in Australia 5w. Still receiving was terrible due to signal having to pass through me. Up to 5km no issues. Anything over. (Missing rider etc) needed to climb something tall to get a good signal. Line of site easily pass 15km.
@@nerdytech7287 thanks, I'm always looking for solutions rides I lead. I use the short range Cardo Freecom 2x blue tooth when my spouse is out with me. The sound & mic quality is great as is the mesh networked Cardo Edge more capable units but budget constraints affect wider adoption in my riding group. I have a Gotenna device and handheld UHF if lost spouse. Gotennae may not be available anymore. In the past we all used Collet 900 communicators which had ~3 km range. They went out of business so I have to rebuild nicad battery packs and connecting cords for those to work but the Vox feature makes them unworkable as radio newbies are always in the group stepping on transmissions.
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Amazing Unit Guys!!! We just wrapped up our Step-by-Step installation. Well thought out, every thing needed was in the kit. Nice work! ua-cam.com/video/8dbWkvbBRic/v-deo.html
Thanks for the reply! The main and most important reason I use my Voyager is for safety, so I don't get lost or to find my way home if I do. I also used to plot new routes and edit past rides very easily with the old Rideleader which I can't do anywhere as well now with the new Rideleader, I cant even change my distance units to Kms!
I have been checking regularly for improvements but have seen no changes for more than a year.
Steve
Steve! We are working hard to smooth out the new Rideleader.com issues that our users have told us about. Everything we do in Rideleader currently is in Miles units, however on the Voyager Pro GPS unit itself we do have the option to change to KM and imported GPX tracks will do the same do the conversion calculations automatically. We did take a temporary step back to focus on Voyager Pro's release, but will continue to add more features and stability to Rideleader moving forward.
Dam I just got my old trail tech voyager fixed looks like it might have to break it again so I can upgrade.😁
Looks like exactly what I’ve been waiting for
That's what we like to hear! :D
When are you gonna incorporate GPS speedometer into the units? It already has gps...why do we need the wheel sensor...it's 2021
The issue I see with this setup is that everyone in the group needs to have the Voyager Pro. A lot of what this system does is a bit redundant (engine RPM, speed, temp., etc) Also, there is no ELB/ELT so I would still have to fork out $300-400 for for a satellite communicator and mount it. Why not use Gaia GPS on my phone and a satellite communicator along with Sena headset? Buddy tracking with about a mile range isn’t quite long enough and should you get separated more than a mile you are sort of screwed. At that point having a Satellite communicator with which you can send coordinates would be nice. Seams to me, a large phone (or a small tablet) paired to a Sena headset is still the best option and as long as you use leather gloves the touch screen isn’t an issue.
I have the old version and I think it is brilliant, but they have changed the original RideLeader software which was also excellent to a web based version that is extremely limited in its functions and although they have told me they will be improving it, it hasn't changed in 18 months...hopefully now that they have this new version voyager up and running they will have time to work on the software.
When and if they improve their Ride Leader program I will definitely buy the new version.
We are working on further development of the Rideleader platform. The GPX trails that are currently in Rideleader can be downloaded and imported to the Pro, like the original Voyager. You won't be disappointed if you pick up a Pro in the future!
Thanks for the reply! The main and most important reason I use my Voyager is for safety, so I don't get lost or to find my way home if I do. I also used to plot new routes and edit past rides very easily with the old Rideleader which I can't do anywhere as well now with the new Rideleader, I cant even change my distance units to Kms!
I have been checking regularly for improvements but have seen no changes for more than a year.
Steve
What radio frequency do you use for buddy tracking?
I am looking to see if with an amateur radio license it is possible to use it in my country.
Can it be securely locked to prevent theft? Looks really amazing and can even replace or assist a speedo/tacho, which for weight conscious people is amazing.
It has a very small allen screw thats under the mount. It can be turned in so that you can't use move the spring loaded lock in clip.
Truth is that if someone wants to steal it, they can break the mount off. Not easy but not foolproof
I just ordered one! How does the multiple rider tracking work? Wouldn't the devices have to communicate with each other? And if so could the signal be lost in mountainous terrain or long distance?
Hey Moto Fixery! Good questions. First, both parties have to be Voyager Pro enabled. Buddy Tracking is done by FM signal. Average distance is .5-1.5 miles in trail terrain. The more obstacles, the less distance. In open areas the longer the distance.
@@trailtechinc Is the unit 4GLTE enabled? And if so will the Buddy Tracking range increase as long as there is service? (I am thinking adventure bikes and street bikes here.)
What about road riding. I’m in Canada. Can it also be used for adv riding ? Or day to day road use to get around ?😊
The only thing I don't get is the touchscreen.. Can you do everything without using the touchscreen as well?
Otherwise, i'm assuming it doesn't work with gloves on?
You can cycle through the various screens and go into the settings using the hardware controls. The Voyager Pro can also be used with gloves as well.
Hi TT, when is the new model coming out, to address improvements and some of the known issues?
I see the trail tech voyager pro is not available anywhere now. Supply issues? New model coming out? Hmm
Trail Tech, can you explain the product life cycle and reasoning? I see the v1.2 software menu/gauges updates and Polaris application add but is that the key differences expected for the June '23 hardware preorder release? This product seems long in the tooth after this many years and these minor improvements mentioned. Please tell us we can expext more.
Wish to get one to europe, before they announce some extra customs duty for this kind of sweet...
I'm curious if the unit gives you longitude and latitude coordinates of your location, also can you access and change the Datum / Global Positioning Format to match the region you are riding in? This is very helpful for pinpointing your exact location on a paper map.
Thanks!
Hey Action Dog! Yes you can, we've put in the options to change from "Deg.Dec" to "Deg, Min.Dec" to "Deg, Min, Sec"
Where can we see a sample of the background map that shows the level of detail? And will there be a feature for end users to make their own custom background maps like we can for the Garmin Montana?
Looks amazing! Would love to have one
Update. Bought one last year. Love it!
I like it! BUT, how good is the on and off road mapping for third world countries. There are a lot of good GPS devices and even apps that do a great job while traveling in the US, but try traveling all through America and good luck with that. I need and I am in search of a GPS to take with me through my journey through all of America, not just the US. From the most southern part of America in of Argentina to the most northern part of America in Alaska. And of course with accurate and up to date information.
Game changer, I love it!!!
Can I select a way point and get turn by turn driving directions? Like the unit in my truck?
If it has gps and it tells you the speed via gps then why do you need the speed sensor with the magnet on the wheel thing?
GPS measure's speed as if you are moving across flat ground , signals can be blocked by building's , trees , and tunnels. Also the position of satellites can effect GPS readings .
Can it be used for snowmobiles? What is the minimum ambient temperature for TTV Pro to operate?
How easy is it to change the trail tech that comes with my 2023 Beta 500RRS to the trail tech pro?
Thanks
Right, I was surprised to see the new Beta built with that version. A new VPro is due out in June 2023 now also so look at that mount to see if it fits and worth the wait.
What type of communication device is compatible with this product?
Bluetooth devices will be compatible with the Voyager Pro.
Hello Trail Tech. Q: is it possible to add this unit to my 2016 KTM 690 Enduro R without removing my stock unit? In other words, can I add it on top of the stock unit?
Is the Voyager capable of turn by turn directions thru headsets or bluetooth? Has anyone run the antenna on the inside of a hand
guard?
Allmost what I am waiting for my bikes.
Aftermarket on and offroad vehicle display and Interface.
But for me its more about integration than doubling functions.
Got a Smartphone and bluetooth headset with me anyway.
So eg killer features for me would be:
- oil temp warning on headset while audio navigating on phone apps like maps osmand or kurviger.
- big display of arrow and distance to next action from phone app on the vehicle screen.
If this could be in future updates I will be Your customer.
I have the voyager on my drz now. Would the Pro model be a plug and play with the oem voyager connectors?
Looking forward to its release! Will it allow switching between imperial and metric measurements?
Yes! It will allow you to switch between the two.
Metric is illegal.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines, in wich country?
@@JoseGarcia-nj6vk sarcasm lean to detect it.
No
Is there a base map preloaded or can you load maps? Or is it like the original Voyager where you can only load tracks?
It comes pre-loaded with topo for the lower 48 United States. We have other maps available for download from our website depending on where you are located.
Trail Tech I understand that it has Topo but can trail maps be loaded on it? For example, on a garmin you can load California Trail Maps to see names of trails as you come up on them in order to not have to pre-plan a route in rideleader. Thanks for your help in trying to understand this. I love my original Voyager on my Beta but am really wanting to be able to overlay a trail map like the other GPS units out there.
Oh! That makes more sense. It will be able to load the GPX files like the previous Voyager for tracks and routes. However, using our Rideleader.com site you can save multiple trails at a time and load them up to Voyager Pro.
Brother, I'm in Africa, I'm very much concern about the phone aspect of it. Will I need to decode the phone to be able to use it here in Ghana?
There are some phones we import from Europe or the usa but they do not work unless they are decoded.
Also, how do I get this? I need it for my dl1000
Is your product compatible with Garmin BaseCamp?
All i want is a bluetooth pairing thumb remote for scrolling map screen & menu's
How long does internal battery last
can I put the Garmin maps for example the Trekmap Pro V5?
We ride in Nt, usually 5 to 10 people riding in outback Australia, we currently have UHF with headsets as our comms, way way way out of Bluetooth range, we are talking min 10k apart from first rider to last rider in the dust bowl, I just wonder if the buddy tracking will work in those kind of situation?
How are your comms working out now, is that still your best way to connect with other riders once you get 2+ km apart? This unit was pricey given its age. The new model Voyager Pro is due out June 2023 on a preorder release but no mention of that distance range capacity.
@J r. when phone coverage is not available, UHF is the only way to go. Install an antenna(flexible) if possible I had a hand-held mounted to my strap on my backpack near my shoulder with a wires going to the handlebars for a button I can push on the go to transmit. My headset in the helmet wasn't loud enough when at speed, and I had to custom build an amplifier circuit with aux for music. I had a set-up way over engineered as I am an electronic developer. So it will pause music from my phone when transmitting or receiving. Next plan was to install an antenna as I had issues communicating with people behind me. Only issue was could never finalise on a location on the bike. Didn't want it on the bars or at the back for easy dismount or porking my eye out. Even thought of mounting on the helmet (too wobbly and gets caught on stuff. ) finally expermented on mounting on the back pack like the army. But too many cables to plug and unplug at every stop. I cable was enough trouble as it was. ramped up the transmit voltage to 10w form legally allowed in Australia 5w. Still receiving was terrible due to signal having to pass through me. Up to 5km no issues. Anything over. (Missing rider etc) needed to climb something tall to get a good signal. Line of site easily pass 15km.
@@nerdytech7287 thanks, I'm always looking for solutions rides I lead. I use the short range Cardo Freecom 2x blue tooth when my spouse is out with me. The sound & mic quality is great as is the mesh networked Cardo Edge more capable units but budget constraints affect wider adoption in my riding group. I have a Gotenna device and handheld UHF if lost spouse. Gotennae may not be available anymore.
In the past we all used Collet 900 communicators which had ~3 km range. They went out of business so I have to rebuild nicad battery packs and connecting cords for those to work but the Vox feature makes them unworkable as radio newbies are always in the group stepping on transmissions.
When do we get Geo-PDF support?
It would be awesome if they have a model that works and plug directly into BMW's Navigator mounts. ü
can GPX routes be imported ?
GPX is it's native format. You import them thru loading them from a micro sd card.
Looks great!
Thank you!
If I upgrade from a vapor to a voyager pro, are sensors compatible with both models? or do I need to run new sensors?
From what I read, yes
hey, did anyone istalled this into a KTM 1190? thanks
Does it have turn signal indicator?
We just released our Voyager Pro Light Dashboard which includes a turn signal indicator! Check it out here: www.trailtech.net/026-idb
tyre pressure sensor is the only thing missing in this product :(
Hi do people use the trail tech on there mountain bikes ?
It is primarily made for dirt bikes and off-road ATV/UTV vehicles.
I use mine on my KLR650, FJ cruiser mad Surly touring bike. Have a solar panel.
I like how the guys like screw her and wheelies away
ITA language ?
Can I have one
but can it find fox???? 🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊
To much I can by new Garmin better than this water proof offroad map
Huh. Don't see a need really.