END OF AN ERA - The Qantas Fleet
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2023
- Qantas is approaching the end of an era as they say goodbye to many aircraft types in favour of new fuel-efficient families. In today's video, we look at the Qantas fleet, including aircraft operating international, domestic and regional services even with their Qantaslink brand.
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Proud to have been part of the Qantas maintenance team on the 747-200, -300, SP and -400.
So sad they're gone. 🇦🇺
You'll still see them for years on re-runs of the Australian Border Security tv program. Lol. 😂😂
The -8 is still here. But just three carriers, KAL, Lufthansa Ana Air China. Enjoyed my flights on KAL.
Wow that's impressive... Does Qantas recruit graduates of aerospace engineering for either internship or employment offer?
We were on the a380 in December with Quantas the aircraft are absolutely fantastic. Just brilliant. The best aircraft i have ever been on.
I wish that the 747 was still here. I bet it would be useful for many airlines today because of the demand for travel.
I have taken several flights on KE 747-8s. Great aircraft! Although Boeing recently reported some fuselage stringer cracks being investigated. Article in SimpleFlying.
uhmmm the a380 has already been dropped by many airlines and it has a much higher capacity than the 747. so what makes you think the 747 would thrive today?
Too expensive and inefficient to run unfortunately
I’m with you regarding the 747. The 747-8 will be great for Qantas flights between Australia and the United States. Well, Joyce loves to shoot his foot. The a380 is a slap in the face for US passengers. Qantas needs to show some good will for those flights.
@AusNetFan13 how is it a slap in the face? Do Americans only travel on Boeing aircraft?
Qantas B747-400 Was The First Wide Body Aircraft I Was Flying With From London To Melbourne In 1998.Thanks For Great Info
@@danielmeador1991 read what he said again. 😉
@@carlbryson924 oops welp making mistakes is apart of life right
They should have atleast kept the -400ER they still had a lot of life left in them
I miss the 747 so much. It was a sad day here when announced 😢
I watched longreach do its last flyover in brisbane and balled my eyes out.
The 747-800 would be an excellent aircraft for Qantas and an expectation travel experience for Qantas passengers.
I hope the Fokker 100s stay around for a bit longer, they’re iconic and a great plane to fly on.
I flew the fooker to hawaii
my dad often gets them to site in WA and he says he hates them :(
@@angusphotographyperth I mean they are old
@@angusphotographyperth They have better pitch (34inch) than the alternative a320s (28inch) though, which is nice. The a320s are still in the Jetstar configuration.
I wish they were still flying the 747-400ER’s between NY JFK-LAX-SYD.
The 737s are also flying to Bali and Pacific islands countries. They will be replaced by A220s and A321neos. The A220, other than for replacing the 717, it is also suitable for thin trans-Tasman routes such as SYD/MEL-ZQN and CBR-AKL/CHC.
It will be sad to see their 330s, 737s and 717s go, the real backbones of Australian domestic aviation, and yes I'd love to see a video on the future of the QF fleet!
they should replace the A330s with the NEOS, so A330-200 is replaces by the A330-800 and the A330-300 should be replaced by the A330-900. Surprised their not doing it already
@@angusphotographyperth nah they should replace them with more 787-9s to upgrade the capacity on the routes the 330s run. Also it would be better for fleet standardisation
@@angusphotographyperth no neos
I'm excited to see the end of the 717s. Their replacement is so much better.
Let's hope Pratt irons out their issues by the time the 320's and 220's come online...
Considering they selected that powerplant for both aircraft..
Still can't believe another A380 was scrapped last month.. leaving 10 in fleet.!!
Most of the Pratt engine issues have been rectified, only a few more to cross off and it stands next to the LEAP.
We will see
I believe that Qantas has selected CFM for the A321xlr.
VH-OQE and VH-OQF were the 2 A380’s salvaged for spare parts to support the remaining 10 QANTAS A380’s.
VH-OQF was first, then VH-OQE was salvaged at Victorville, California, USA which wrapped up early November 2022.
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10 is better than none. Looking at you British Airways
there's just not the demand for tickets to the US and Europe to justify an a380. Australia is seen as "safe" compared to the rest of the world
its sad to see the 717 go from the fleet later this year
I will be flying on it for the first and final time later this year!
Those 717s will probably reappear in another country. They're well maintained and could have some years of service in them yet. In the meantime passengers who flew on the 717 won't miss it when they experience the A220.
And 737s
@@rais1953 Absoulutely Rais. In fact one of QLK's 717s was sent on a trip around the world to Victorville California to be put in storage, it's going to DL apparently.
@@Lukesaviationaustralia of course the 737s as well, they could be of great use to low cost carriers aiming to have all 737 fleets.
🎉Qantas Fleet are all ok ❤🎉 Greetings from Papua New Guinea.
It's funny to think that at one time, Qantas was only an international airline. I remember flying a couple of domestic legs with them, but I was only allowed to purchase those tickets as a non-Australian. I flew on the upper deck (but in economy) of a 747 (300 series, I believe) from Cairns to Sydney, which was a domestic leg of a flight from somewhere in Japan to Sydney with a stopover in Cairns. I also flew with them from Sydney to Melbourne on a 74M, which was interesting. It was funny seeing the wall halfway down the cabin that separated the passenger cabin from the cargo area! If I recall, each of those flights only cost 50AUD!
I had the pleasure of flying in the 744 with Singapore Airlines multiple times, seated in the upper deck where Business Class seats were. I think I’d only flew with Qantas a couple of times.
I still miss the L-1011
The Qantas airline has been making flight diversions recently esp between Los Angeles to Sydney/Melbourne route - the airline recently diverted from its Sydney destination to Brisbane on its flight from LAX - SYD
Reason:
Weather?
Low on fuel?
Could you find out from someone in the know as to why the two A380’s that are going to be scrapped were chosen? You would have thought that they would have chosen A and B, considering that these should have been the ones with the most hours, and of course one was damaged badly in the incident in Singapore. If you could mention the reason in an upcoming video it would be very much appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work. Hope you are feeling a lot better, you sound like it. Regards 😊😊
High usage airframes/not painted/not reconfigured/major checks not done. OQA has relatively low cycles comparatively due to the incident.
Gas guzzlers most likely
Because a jumbo and A330 have better fuel economy compared to the A380 that only goes the distance because of the volume of fuel it Carry’s. They lock out 150 seats plus, full tanks of gas and no cargo in the months of April just to make DFW/SYD and still quiet often had to drop into BNE as they couldn’t make Sydney.
Would love to see the Airbus A350 joining soon .
I really want to fly the 717 but the only opatunity i have of flying the 717 is late July
After vh xzm landed you could see the stabilizer moving heaps almost looked like the bushes were worn on it.
I would like to see a vid on the future fleet of QANTAS
Can you please do a video on the new future Qantas fleet?
I was a bolter at Airbus in North Wales making A330 wings,I will only fly Airbus, don’t trust the Boeing business structure not to cut corners and safety, as proven recently. I have flown A380 and A350 long haul and really prefer the A380, it was a more comfortable environment and seemed more stable, wether that is due to weight or just the weather on that day who knows! A380 every time from now on!
I've had a few flights on the A380 & while you will feel turbulence it is probably reduced a lot compared to a smaller aircraft. What impressed me the most is that in smooth air conditions the A380 is like sitting in comfortable chair at home. I've never had that sensation when aboard a B747 or any other plane.
The 787 is a safety worry based on what I’ve read. I guess we need only look at the 737 max situation to realise Boeing has safety issues in it processes! I elected not to fly the London Perth 787 route recently in order to avoid that aircraft. I’m also now a little concerned when booking Ryanair flights as they have some 737 max in the fleet now - nicely rebranded the - 8.
Who uses software to hide engineering problems? I know VW did it with diesel emissions but now Boeing are hiding aircraft design issues with fudged software overrides and crashing aircraft!
@@markac8 I agree, when you have a business that is funded by government and CAA staff on payroll, the bank balance will always come before safety! Staff will hide the issues to keep their job and funding.
Lol, please don't fly Boeing, millions of others will, not a loss
Living in Wagga Wagga, I always thought the 717 would be a better plane than the dash 8s to have in service here.
The QANTAS 747 was the smoothest aircraft I have ever flown on
So I’d like to see the A330Neo enter the mix with currently 25 in service of the A330ceo - it seems logical to upgrade the fleet with them.. Interestingly, Airbus has made some impressive and I guess airline attractive mods to the neo to change the cycles by beefing up the landing gear so it can take more take offs & landings between major maintenance. I love the A330 for Syd - Perth, Syd - Auck & the hop between Syd & Melb. The neo is an impressive aircraft with capabilities to suit Qantas missions and a great compliment to B787 & A350 too.
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Often see the A330-200 on Sydney to perth & Melbourne to Perth on flightradar24 in fact I often click on Qantas aircraft to see the age & they need renewal of fleet asap.
Qantaslink has a major problem with the turboprop fleet as there are a number of locations currently served by Q200 and Q300 aircraft where the runways are too short for the Q400. This may force a change to a mix of ATR 42, 42S and 72 as the only viable replacement. Lord Howe Island is the worst case and the ATR 42S appears to be the only 30+ seater in current production that can operate from that airport.
ATR promote the ATR 42-600S STOL variant as requiring a 800m runway at 70% load factor. Lord How runway is 886 m × 30 m (2,907 ft × 98 ft) so it should work fine. Maybe the Deutsche Aircraft D328eco.
@@bernhardzunk7402 Unfortunately the D328eco requires 1000m for takeoff at maximum capacity at sea level at 20° C. Lord Howe Island exceeds 20°C most days from October to April resulting in longer required takeoff runs. With the Q200 Qantaslink has a 15kg baggage limit for the route instead of 20kg on all other flights and I expect they may need to keep the restriction even if ATR42S were used.
@@grahambaker6664 ATR are only rating the ATR-42S at 70% of capacity for an 800m runway. Presumably this means about a half fuel load so we would have to rate the D328 at 70% capacity as well.
The 717s won't disappear that quicky. Deliveries of A220 are very slow and with growing problems at Pratt&Whitney on the GTF engines, these deliveries won't accelerate for a while.
The future of the Dash-8 is a big question mark. With the liquidation of Bombardier, a canadian firm bought the rights to the plane and to the original de Havilland name and has created de Havilland Canada. However, Bombardier's liquidation also involved it selling its Downsview assembly plant near Toronto to condo developpers prior to selling the Dash-8 to de Havilland Canada.. So Dash-8 assembly tooling has been in storage for a while now with no announcement of a site to restart production. And it is also a product that needs a revamp. So far, all de Havilland Canada has done was allow for increased seating density to make flying the Dash 8-400s miserable to please airline accountants. So even if QF wanted to renew their Dash-8 fleet (many of which were purchased during short period in 1980s where Boeing owned de Havilland Canada), they couldn't because there is no production facility to spit them out.
Virgin flies the ATR. Do you think they would go down that path?
@@MsJubjubbird It all depends on how soon QF needs to replace its old Dash-8s and at what point, greater visibility of restart of production of the Dash8 might come. My guess is that operators of the Dash08 are in a wait and see right now. The demise of FlyBe in UK has made availabe a far number of second hand Dash8s.
I bet they regret sending the 747s to the boneyard now.
Why? The 747s are no younger than anything else.
not sure if you have done this video before, but can you cover why Qantas never purchased the B777 range
They had the 767s and the 747s. The 747s had a longer range and large passenger capacity. Due to its isolation Australia retained the hub and spoke model a lot longer and, to some degree, still does. Better for them to run one large plane to LA or London. The 777-200 didn't even have the range that they needed for those intercontinental flights. Now they have the dreamliners and will be taking on the A350s
How old is this video? I thought tiger air wasn't in Australia anymore?
What haooened to the 767s and 747s?
I would have loved to see a Qantas Boeing 777!
Super happy that Melbourne is getting A380s to LAX later this year. Furthermore Singapore Airlines is adding A380s to Melbourne again sometime this year. On top of Emirates' usual A380s it will be great to see the superjumbo back at Melbourne again
I like to see more A380s in service..❤
Nothing does wonders for the nations pride as watching the national carrier taking off in the form of Being 747.
When will Qantas expand its Premium Economy services on international flights. Currently, only QF1 & 2 from SYD to SIN and none from BNE or MEL to SIN.
Premium economy is available Melbourne to Singapore.
2 qantas a330-200 are in Dresden to be converted to p2f
Sadly, an aged fleet that will be a major challenge going forward. As Frequent Fliers (like half of the World) I do think that Qantas has missed the opportunity to get into the order line for new aircraft when manufacturers were struggling...
When were manufacturers struggling?
I am Australian and I fly regularly and I would never fly Qantas.
I’d love Qantas to Fly the Iconic Queen of The Skies the Boeing 747!
The Boeing &37-800 you talk of. Are they from the Boeing 737 Max series?
No.
Isn't the Qantas link family owned by small regional airlines running under the Qantas banner
QF have a very large capacity shortfall since the 747 left the fleet. They would need additional aircraft on top of the 30 A330s that need replacing.
a overhaul > an overhaul
My issue now is that Qantas really isn’t connecting Australia with the globe! Like they used to! Now it’s America and Europe with some Asia splashed in!
Bring back the constellations
Personally I believe over the next 5 or so years we will see a reduction in domestic flight frequency but accommodated by larger capacity aircraft. Maybe all 330 equivalents. Less pilots less crew less airport slots.
QANTAS should be Nationalised and Government run as it was in the past with Servicing done in Australia giving it back the immense Pride and Support it once had.
How about no. Qantas has served this nation well as a public company. Government is not and should not be in the business of running a global airline business
Qantas don’t have any Ejets, the E190’s are wet leased from Alliance although a few are in Qlink colours.
Also no one in aviation says 737dash800 or A330dash200, we just say seven three seven eight hundred or ay three thirty two hundred.
With the imminent retirement of the 717, it’s type has been flying in AU since the 60’s as in the DC9 and the odd mad dog
Well clearly at least one person in aviation does say that. Seems a pedantic point to address, bordering on pointless.
@@jimmythetrumpet3632 my observation but far from pointless. I’ve watched DJ’s videos from pretty much went he started. I’m not knocking the guy but from someone who works in aviation he doesn’t sound like someone that knows aviation, he sounds like a uninformed journalist reading from a script. Consider it constructive criticism, I’m sure DJ would rather sound like someone who knows what they’re talking about than someone that doesn’t.
I don't think it's pointless to expect DJ to know and use the correct terminology, especially if he wants to be seen as being authoritative. DJ has been at this for a while so he should know. Rather than improve video quality on one channel, he set up a second channel. Rather than improve quality on both channels, he set up a web site and writes articles that are pretty poor. He needs to cut back, focus solely on UA-cam, and get help with editing and writing, while taking time to learn more about the aviation industry. I respect what he has accomplished and his ambition, but he has much to learn.
@@dalydegagne1839 It's more that he's not using the terminology in the format deemed acceptable by yourself, and less that he doesn't know the terminology at all.
@@jimmythetrumpet3632 Actually, as the saying goes "God is in the details", and one of the secrets of having a successful channel is being concerned with the details. It has nothing to do with what I approve of, but rather following the accepted convention for referring to aircraft types, of being professional. Unfortunately, in spite of lofty ambitions, DJ is sloppy when it comes to details. He doesn't even acknowledge legitimate criticisms, and very, very seldom replies to comments whether positive or negative. The only time he replied to comments with any regularity was after he launched his cabin crew. If a person donated to the channel one of the perks was DJ would reply to your comments. That didn't last long. For a while if you were a cabin crew member and made a nice comment, even simply saying, "I liked your video," DJ would make some kind of "I am glad you liked it" reply. It was rather embarrassing. However, when non cabin crew asked questions or suggested ideas for videos they were ignored by DJ, just as they continue to be. Some of us have gone (and still go) to the trouble of. making construcive criticisms and get no response from DJ. People ask questions worthy of an answer and are ignored. I respect DJ's ambition and work ethic, and would love to see him succeed and be one of the top aviation content makers on UA-cam. He can do it, but he needs to be open to guidance. I follow other aviation channels which have been around for a while and there's a big difference in quality, which leaves me thinking, "DJ could do that. He could have a channel like that."
We like to see 777--10 in QANTAS fleet.
I just wish that Qantas resumes it’s flights from the Middle East to Europe
They have flights to London and Rome...
@@heidirabenau511 The London flights (one goes via Perth and the other goes via Singapore), while the Rome flight went via Perth. Qantas last flew the A380 between Dubai and London back in 2018. It’s very unlikely these flights will resume.
The Dubai stopover didn’t go down too well with Aussies and didn’t last long.
How many 380 s do they have???
10
They used to have 12, but now they have 10.
I wanna know more about the "FLUTURE Fleet"... 🤪🤪
ever since i was a boy i loved aviation but one airline that i loved was Qantas i liked back in the 70s when no the tail the 747 they had the winged kangaroo why don't they bring it back and put back the occra on the plane
Uh oh!
I'd love to see them go with the Boeing 777-8x
Can't imagine Qantas placing any orders for those at the moment tbh. That aircraft has faced a lot of challenges already, and not a single example has been delivered to any airline.
the E175 and 190 or the A220 should replace the current QANTAS Link fleet and then the airline should be using more updated 737s, like the Max 8 or 9 for their domestic fleet. The 787 and A350 would do well for their future international fleets.
Virgin Australia (our other main carrier here) has some MAX-8 or 9's on order.
Are the Max's safe to fly. Aren't they still grounded?
@@carisi2k11 They're safe to fly. The ban was restricted in 2020 I believe.
Should buy 747 800
How? They're not made anymore.
I want to see them get the A350-900
Gone like the Pucci.
The planes are certainly feeling dated and used, and for a full service airline I've never seen so many Qantas passengers decide to just pack full size hand luggage. The brand certainly is on the nose. The future though looks promising, particularly with an Airbus fleet. I think the right choice from the lens of safety and keeping some distance from being associated with Boeing's woes.
Should have kept the 747-400ER
the Australian full service flag carrier needs to replace it's A330-200 & A330-300 wide body jets . . . the A330 was the airline's workhorse on international long haul routes for more than 22 years . . . a modest fleet of 14 brand new B787-10 & 8 B787-9 could fill in the space vacated by the A330 . . . it'll complement the A350-900 ULR & A350-1000 HGW wide body jets that the airline intends to acquire for it's Project Sunrise . . . it's about launching ultra long haul services on very specific routes . . . similar to Singapore Airlines Singapore (SING) - New York (JFK) non-stop services . . .
Qantas needs to keep on the A330 for the time being, Qantas simply can't keep up with the demand and removing the A330, when they aren't getting 787s, would only make this worse.
A330s are far more durable and dependable. Leaning on the 787s hard is not going well. Carbon hulls were a great idea 🙄
787 not suited to short haul domestic which the 330 does between Sydney - Melbourne- Cairns and Perth. IThe A330 was a winner for me over the oppositions narrow bodies on these routes.
I can't see Qantas replacing the A330s with 787s. Complete waste of money on training. They are going Airbus on the models, so would make sense to get A330neo
It hardly serves Australians with their international needs. Qantas hand pick the moist lucrative routes and fob off the less lucrative routes to their alliance partners. Eg Europe. It's fly to London and Rome and one day Paris. That's it.
... so, after all this, what and where is the "end of an era" ...
The 'love' of the A380 in Economy Class was non-existent. Way too cramped. Upgrade and pay for Economy Plus. It's the only way on long flights.
Nooooooooooo
I consider the 737Max series aircraft still a flawed design aircraft and will avoid stepping foot on it knowingly, and will avoid wherever possible booking any flights that include the possibility of this aircraft being used.
very sad
I would not fly with Qantas if they paid me. Also very expensive for a Budget Airline. Qantas used to be a top Shelve Airline, but have gone downhill very fast over the last few Years.
Too many variants, see Copa airlines ...this is NOT a financial viable option now...
No matter how old the B747 is Qantas still should have kept them, upgraded them and still maintain them. If they did I guarantee they would’ve attracted quite some more customers as not even aviation lovers know how sacred and legendary the queen of the skies is. In my opinion bit of a L move Qantas👎🏻
the fuel costs were too high, especially with the price of oil going up. People also are less willing to leave Australia atm.
@@MsJubjubbird that is true but they should’ve done what Etihad did with the A380. Put it in storage and then start them back up again when they can afford it again
@@ryanschacht_ They have the A380s for those longer hub and spoke flights though. The engines on the 747 just weren't efficient enough. I think they were also getting a non-green image by keeping them going. They were seen as old dirty dinosaurs
@@MsJubjubbird ohhh yeahh that’s right sorry I forgot about the woke people we’ve always had. Then again they could’ve put more efficient engines on them
@@ryanschacht_ putting new engines on an old plane isn’t easy or cheap, everything from the avionics to the wings have to either be reprogrammed or reengineered for a new engine. The USAF had to spend $2.6 billion USD to re engine their fleet
There is an issue with your video
The A380
I must be the only one who doesn't miss the 744. Flew it a few times and I would much rather be on a modern widebody.
Qantas is a private airline - not public therefore NOT a flag carrier.
qantas 777
Fools, all the experience with Boeing gone, and now airbus problems !
You say I ask why, for the A330? This aircraft, to me, is the backbone of the Qantas fleet. Can efficiently fly domestic And international routes. You are obviously a Dreamliner tragic. Solely international, I'd have thought.
The A330 is awful as a passenger. Heap of junk. It would be best recycled into coke cans.
A380 is awesome. Best aircraft in the sky. Which is why I’ve started bypassing Qantas for Emirates.
A220 is a good move to retire the old fleet of small aircraft. Too many aircraft types is not good for an airline. I’ve heard nothing but rave reviews about the A220. Can’t wait to fly on one.
Qantas is a publicly traded company. Australia's flag carrier?, sorry, I disagree. With its dreadful attitude to staff and passengers and its pure devotion to cost cutting, its no longer worthy of the mantle of Australia' flag carrier.
I find the ultra trendy rattle voice so distracting that I can't watch the video.
Have to stop being so monotone.
Air nz is ordering a an extra 777 -300 er probably used !
QANTAS Will Never Retire,WithDraw Their AIRBUS A380'S 😃. They Only WithDrawn 2 AIRBUS A380'S Cause For Spare Parts & I Don't Know Why 😭🤬🤔
Yes they absolutely will retire the a380's at some point.
Glad that the 737 and 717 leave the fleet, nobody needs these old planes vom the 1960s, Qantas should use instead modern Airbus A320neo and A220.
But training the pilots that flew those planes is going to be expensive and take months to complete
And 737 max
@@ethanschultz960 they haven't ordered the max. Australian consumers are still vocal about their safety concerns. iT's gong to be interesting to see how Bonza goes, given that is their entire fleet.
They aren't flying a single plane from the 60s...
flag carrier, but beaten in every way by singapore airlines, qatar, etihad, emirates, jal, and every other airline out there
QF have a very large capacity shortfall since the 747 left the fleet. They would need additional aircraft on top of the 30 A330s that need replacing.
QF have a very large capacity shortfall since the 747 left the fleet. They would need additional aircraft on top of the 30 A330s that need replacing.
they are reactivating 10 A380s, but more than likely they will add more 787-900s and A350-900s