2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo Range Test -- 295 MILES -- Gauge View Video
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2020
- According to the EPA, the Porsche Taycan Turbo EV can go just 201 miles on a full charge. This is the gauge view of the Taycan Turbo Alex Roy drove from an Electrify America charging station in Buckeye, Arizona to another in Indio, California. Check out the full story on his range test here: www.thedrive.com/new-cars/328...
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So I appreciate your work.... I am taking delivery of my Taycan Turbo S next week. I actually didn't care about the range -- 95% of the time, I'm driving within 200 miles every day anyway and I will charge at home -- but its good to know if you want to go on a trip, you can stretch the miles.
Cold Gecko how are you taking delivery next week? the factories are closed until next week at least
Eduard Georgian Latcan Car was manufactured on day before plant closing. Your right. World wide shortage of parts to make car now.
@@Coldgecko you may want to check out TaycanForum.com if you have not already. All the best with your Turbo S, I am waiting on a 4S as well.
This is the main thing people don't get about electric vehicles. Every time you mention it people are like "YEA BUT I AIN'T GOT TIME TO CHARGE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR 3 HOURS" - yeah but 99% of the time you're driving less than the max range ,< 100 miles to work, errands, etc., and charging at home. You're never forced to use public charging, realistically unless you're on a road-trip, and yes, on a road-trip EV sucks because supercharging prices don't save nearly as much as regular charging at home does compared to gas and they're more sparse, take longer. But otherwise when you're not road-tripping, it meets nearly everybody's needs...
Did you get it yet? Maybe do a video of it once you get it. Some of the color options look really dope, I wish you the best of fun with it!
The EPA has significantly underestimated Taycan's EPA range, whereas Tesla's EPA range is significantly overestimated. In reality there doesn't seem to be much difference. Why is there this discrepancy with the EPA?
Because Tesla lies and does fake claims as usual
Yeah. Tesla lies! I am sure no one verifies a manufacturer's EPA rating before it's put on every Monroney sticker that gets printed and posted on EPA.gov. that EPA is just guessed and thrown on every sticker.
@@matthewhodges5910 That's pretty sad, I dont know if it's related to Trump defunding or not, but you can't trust private interests to make trustworthy claims and now we see the result of lack of government oversight.
@@motormusique Because the EPA used old numbers on their test. Porsche released 6kWh more from their buffer after the test. Furthermore, driving a 60mph is the optimum test for any EV. A Tesla driven like this yields about 410miles on a single run with the same battery as the Porsche, while the EPA Test is about 370miles. If the EPA ran the test with this car it would've gotten almost the same result, but they factor in stop and go and not just rolling start and also weather - here we had perfect weather.
God I love this car
Great job!!
good music and video very nice, and instructive, bravo!
It seems like Tesla fanboys jump on and downvote heavily on any video that shows anything better than a Tesla.
It may not be better but it definitely is a great car. And Tesla fanboys should agree that there are great EVs different from Tesla. Kona EV is one of them. This Porsche is another. And there will be more. T
They are afraid
@@poxer1 Let me see you drive your Kona through Europe and see how "great" it is on the non existent network:)
Pretty damn cool car! 300miles highway is pretty bad-ass for an EV. I still think EV is the wrong tool for extended highway usage (ie. road trips like this), but that sort of range is very cool.
i want the 4s with the upgraded battery so so much
Me too but money
Nice!
Amazing sport car!
It has 320 mile range if you will keep 62 mile per hour.
0-80% charge for ~22 min!
62 ina Porsche?
@@clevernduruza8624 I know what you mean, surface streets I assume 😏
@@clevernduruza8624 Man, none of us break the speed limits. What are you trying to do 😉
Let me buy a Porsche and drive it at 60mph, because otherwise it can't do 200miles. No...
Well done Porsche -- Tesla threw down the challenge, and you stepped up to the plate. Prost!
Nothing can beat the Porsche Taycan
Plaid can. Its faster AND drives a bit further at 70mph. Has more room. Is faster around the Nurburgring, seats 5, costs less. But come at me with panels gaps and somesuch...
That range was all over the place u must’ve gunned it a few times
prolly overtaking
It's nickname is the GuessOMeter. It's constantly adjusting to changing situation and in this case probably learning a new driver. It fluctuates like that normally.
...and it's a Porsche not a coke can with wheels commonly referred to as a Tesla.
If you still have the car you should do this test again after that big update from Porsche that increased all models’ efficiency and range estimates
Night vision!
It’s about as much use as a fish with tits!😂 think about night vision in cars logically, when you’re driving where are you supposed to be looking to avoid things... oh yeah out of your windscreen, so having a night screen display in you dash is of no use as you don’t drive staring at your dashboard (if you do that’s probably why you crash, as you didn’t see what you are about to hit!). And yes I’ve tried it on several cars including the Taycan, it’s a great gimmick but totally pointless, a car with better headlights is actually safer than a gimmick designed for people that’ll buy any old shit, just so they can brag about it to someone else about how great their pointless shit is!🤷♂️😂
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anyone else notice the single frame at 0:22 where he's going 142? lol
What's the track used in this video?
Umm, Interstate-10
Who the hell drives 70 mph on a 75 mph speed limit in the United States. No wonder every car and truck is passing and annoying the heck out of drivers in the ROAD 🙈🙈🙉. Go drive the 2020 Tesla Model S on the same route with the same speed and see what range you get 👍
Not bad!
21" o 19" wheels?
As a car, Taycan for me it's above tesla model S!
wait for plaid
Yes, it is better.
Tesla old and cheap car.
After 5 starts 0-60, tesla become worse twice. Not 3 second, ~6 second.
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Taycan has more speed, quality, technology, speed, faster charge and more pleasure.
@BTICronox yeah but given the rate of teslas improvement it wont be long. Porsche opperate at the upper limit of quality and always have
@BTICronox hoping the german made tesla will be better built. Also wait for the roadster
Yes, it's above the Tesla Model S price by about $75k or more. It has 3 more screens than the Model S, so you'll be looking all around the cabin versus the road and the screens look dated and not vibrant like the Model S. It has less range than the Model S, much less so you will have much more range anxiety. The look of the Taycan is nice but the car will be dated in a year or two. And mind you Model S is 2012 technology that keeps getting better with every update like 0-60 in 2.4 sec.
ECOMODEGATE : Dieselgate equivalent of range tests on BEVs. You put the car in ECO Mode before the range test. Your car basically cuts the power to the engines and AC almost by half. Your 0 to 60 under 3 seconds performance EV becomes 0 to 60 over 9 seconds average EV. Then you achieve good mileage. Then you put EPA test and its integrity into question. EPA is using default settings determined by the carmaker itself in order to do range tests. It is not EPAs fault if your EV cannot achieve good performance and range at the same time.
Porsche as usual with their conservative figures. Take this over a tesla any day.
No one would've bat an eye if it wasn't for the weirdly large discrepancy between EPA testing figures for Tesla and Porsche (similar for the Audi e-tron too).
Porsche is better, but its also much more expensive than Tesla.
Both have same acceleration.
Taycan is a great car, but people don't just 'take' cars. They buy them, this is 2x more expensive than a Model S Performance, so for most people it will come down to the price.
Porsche intially indicated the Taycan does over 250 miles. But it is the EPA that brought the numbers down much lower.
@@jareknowak8712
Not sure how to respond to "the same acceleration" when the equivalent Taycan beats it in every H2H, and the Model S Performance degrades so precipitously after three 1/4 runs.
The turbo takes a lot of the battery power
gianfrancoa lol indeed
Where is the turbo in this EV again. I forgot. Is it in the trunk?
@@matthewhodges5910 no, it's at front for better cooling
You should bring freddylsx and this channel and test out his gmc you'll be surprised
I heard you can get better electricity for these things.
you mean better performance? unless Porsche is screwing their customers and locking out some of the load on the engine, otherwise you would have to pull and swap or rebuild the battery pack to higher voltage for speed, or for more amperage draw for torque. Tesla's have no performance mods for that reason, the battery pack is the bottle neck, and you can't magically make cells a higher voltage or handle more of a load, unless you've already handicapped the car from the factory.
@@allrimmedout you have to get an adapter to plug it into a tesla station, they have better voltage.
If you fill up near a power station then you get a higher octane electricity, even more if its nuclear. Don't ever put old electricity in them, you'll detonate and end up with motor windings all over the road
@@allrimmedout yes Porsche have left a lot of peak performance untapped. The car is over engineered so that it can give consistent performance with a battery from near 0 to 100% full. Tesla will only give you ludacris mode if the battery is at the right charge level and temperature, and will only give it to you for a short time. The Tycan will give you that performance no matter what. That does mean if you could modify it to give peak performance like Teslas ludacris or plaid mode, then you would have a totally insane Porsche mode
The ones designated for the US will not be able to use EU electricity.
Metric volts.
it's a porsche, range doesnt really matter this car is a sportscar for fun! if you buy the petrol version you drive it on short trips for fun and you know well it won't make 500 miles with a tank full of gas....
There are not very many people that buy an expensive Porsche and not at least one other car
so achieve this mileage, one needs to drive the Taycan Turbo like a grandmother in a Prius. So... I don't know.
To achieve the same range in a Tesla you also have to drive like a grandma in a Prius.
A 458 can empty the tank in hours if it’s driven on track
Most of the time, you don't need that much range anyway, so you can afford to drive a little more aggressive.
I’d like to see someone do this but drive until the car is completely out of power. They could have someone follow them with a flatbed truck to get it off the road if it died in the middle of nowhere but at least then you could drive it as far as it would go and know it’s true range capabilities.
Carwow did that, the video is called something like "we drove these cars until they died", but the selection wasn't what I expected
MisterThatGuyJake was is an AMC Pacer and a Trabant? Which one survived?
@@misterthatguyjake I watched the video but to be honest the whole test was made sort of pointless by them deciding to drive on the road only to a point and then drive the rest of the range on a parking lot. Very different conditions.
@@JMartinni true! I think it would be ideal if they were on an oval track to simulate freeway driving. For me it interesting to see how far after zero some cars went.
@@vladx2 Hahaha it was a Kia Niro EV, MB EQC 400, Audi E-tron, Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model 3 (can't remember which battery). A trabant would have been a sight to see though.
I think the Porsche taycan is a great car. I think this will be great for the people who have $130k to spend on a car. The # of people who have this much cash lying around to buy a car like this is very few. For those who want a more affordable car with comparable range to a Porsche will buy a Tesla. This will def. be a low volume EV
That makes sense, it's priced as a low volume, high margin car. Lamborghinis are in a similar vein, usually only selling around 2k a year. Granted, those vehicles start at around $200k and only go way up from there, up into the millions per car in special cases, whereas the Taycan starts at $105k and only goes up to $250k if you get every last upgrade, which almost no one does.
Porsche always understate their numbers... even range. makes no sense
Porsche doesn't make the range figures, those are created by the respective regulatory bodies put in place by governments. The EPA in the United States at least is who tests vehicles for their mileage / range
Except the numbers on their price tags... :D
@@lucasbell9625 Porsche reaffirmed that the EPA range is correct...while its not.
@@co3476 No, they just decided not to contest the testing and instead have another independent test showcase numbers closer to real world use. Porsche likely believes the EPA testing to be factual, the question is just why the Taycan (and others like the Audi E-Tron) have a much larger discrepancy of range in testing vs real world driving compared to Tesla cars. Who knows...
@@JMartinni Porsche and Audi loves to understate their numbers. From what I know all numbers stated on brochure (acceleration number, HP, in this case probably range too) are worst case numbers at worst case scenario so at daily use or real world use they give better than expected. For EPA range some forum suggest Porsche (and also Audi?) is just multiply the EPA range by 0.7, and I have impression it's still kinda lowballed after multiplied
The result is absolutely unrealistic. If you had a range of 28.8 kWh to 260 miles, which is 418 km, you would have to have 120 kWh of usable energy in the battery. The real usable energy is only 84 kWh.
The battery is bigger than they claym
28,8 kWh/100 miles is 17,856 kWh/100 km. 84 kWh accessible in battery*100 / 17,856 = 470 km. Todays updated Taycans should be even better. It is an older code but it checks out.
Who drives a Porsche 5-10 mph below the speed limit on a 75 mph interstate?
EV people to save juice😂
Anyone with an electric car does it. Range gets killed much easier with speed than internal combustion
Yes, I know. But he just used the Range Mode which, by default, has a maximum speed of 70mph. It can be configured to a higher value like 75 or 77..of course that will impact range.
But there is a video by The Autobahn Specialist of a Taycan going 130kph 82mph getting a projected range of 230mi.
@@alexlam24 Anyone with a non tesla electric car. With Teslas the optimum driving speed is 80mph in the US and around 150/170km/h in Germany due to more efficient motors and faster charging rate and better network. I drive my car with 100mph when I can and arrive 10 minutes later then with my petrol car on a 700km trip.
0:19 gave me complete heartattack i thought it just crashed with something...
Damn porsche
Why so many dislikes? Please reply
He drove one way almost down hill
@@clevernduruza8624 it was 3200 ft up 4200 ft down so yes 1000 ft loss. Definitely not all down hill though.
Mainly Tesla fanboys. They're like the Borg. They can't wait for a future where driving no longer exists, and we are all simply ferried from A to B by shoddily built autonomous Teslas. Porsche are the antithesis of this, by building great cars that are meant to be driven.
Tesla fanboys and worshippers who are afraid and can't admit the reality that the Porsche is the better car.
Now with The Smoking Tire and Road and Track review saying 300 miles on a round trip to Palm Springs with AC on and seat cooling.
Tesla folks will have a harder time to resist the range claims.
800ft+ of downhill between these locations.
that is almost nothing...
So thats an incline of 0.04 degrees
With elevation of ~850' and weight of 5000lb, basic PE is 1.6kWh, that's about 2% of the battery. Not nothing, but not super significant, however I think the effect on range is substantial. Easy to figure out with a return trip
So we saw a result of 217 miles done... thanks for it! The "remaining" does not matters, because it is unprooven!
So even if it ran through the 80 miles rated range showing remaining in the next 5 feet, it still beats it's EPA rating significantly 🙄🤔
@@GregHassler Because Porsche released 6kWh more than the EPA test used. They just did it after the EPA test. Do your homework homeboy.
@@marcusbiller867 Porsche also down-rated the EPA test results itself. Do your homework.
I’d like to see you try this on a more average journey eg town driving stop and start as well as constant speed on motorways. This isn’t really a fair test. Also very little traffic on the roads at the moment.
@Markygti
Not at 70 mph.
Both Model S Raven Performance, and Taycan Turbo S ran up and down for 200 miles on an oval at 75 mph (ambient temperature around 43-50 degrees). And one had 211 miles, the other had 222.
@@msl5253 Yeah, the Tesla had a slightly longer range because it has quite a bigger battery. The Porsche is actually just as efficient, except it's a true luxury sportscar.
EVs get worse range at highway speed. Lower speeds, stopping with regeneration, etc will improve the result.
@@paname514 No, Model S has actually the same usable capacity as this Porsche. The difference is close to 5% only, but with Model S you can get 100-120 miles more.
Actually, I don't like the idea of a Toyota getting past me easily on the highway when I'm in a Porsche
If you're comparing yourself to a Toyota driver while you're driving a Porsche, then you shouldn't be driving a Porsche
@@LunarFlare91 meh
I just have to laugh my ass out... buying a fast car but then doing 70 miles/h...just buy a Hyundai Kona and you’ll do much better range
No doubt the Taycan is a great car. But, to be fair, this was a sunny day and you were going downhill so, would be great if you could repeat the trip in the opposite direction.
According to someone else in the comments, there is an altitude difference of 800 feet. That's not much over 200+ miles. Is not even 0.1 of a degree.
Yeah.68 degrees is kind of ideal conditions. Throw it on a 100 degree day with 20 mph headwinds, and you will get the EPA rated 220 miles, or less!
@@matthewhodges5910 so you're saying even in terrible conditions it still beats the EPA rating by a significant margin? Nice!
@@GregHassler No, in worse conditions it has worse than EPA range, I have tested it. Plus EPA used smaller battery in their test, Porsche released some buffer after the test in the winter www.teslarati.com/porsche-taycan-enhanced-battery-better-range/
at least drive the speed limit
That would certainly increase the range, while decreasing the fun! LOL
Like watching paint dry.
You did 217 miles. Not 295 miles. Remaining range is just a prediction. Shame!
Calculated based on the initial prediction of 265 miles . 265 - 80 = 185 miles but he got 217 miles. 217 - 185 = 32 miles more than predicted. With that percentage, he can get ~92-93 miles more instead of 80 precited. Which would be around 310 miles total
why the F would I want a vehicle where I have to care about its range
City car.
Because most people use a vehicle to get to work, errands, etc. If your daily combined driving is significantly less than max range (as most people's are, most people don't drive more than 100mi per day), you literally never have to ever consider the range, and you never have to fill up.
fist!
Driving a Porsche.. Below the posted speed limit... get a Lexus hybrid instead for luxury
Do you even understand the point of this test?
Ray Blome yes I do. do you understand my reply? If you’re going for maximum range and boring highway driving use a more luxurious car. Buy an rx350h and a 911 S for spirited driving. If you drive the taycan turbo s quickly you may only get 100 miles in a full charge. See the smoking tire review
whats the point of a sports car if you're gonna drive it like a grandmother
show us range test on back roads and tracks
Its an electric car
The Porsche has class-leading range on the Autobahn. This is one of its many strong points.
i mean first
Why were you Driving under the speed limit? hypermiling? 😂 be honest, it has a true range of 201 mile 😂
model s almost 400 miles
Who cares
@@Mahyar_BEH while i don't either great many people do
Not many Porsche customers for sure.
@@jaroslavzaruba2765 yes but the people care know that already
@@Mahyar_BEH It's not about total range, it's about efficiency. That's the engineering part. Tesla's are more efficient per mile than the more expensive Porsche, which can afford to use higher quality bearings and other HW as the sales prices is a lot higher than the Tesla S. Even with these more expensive part's, it still has worse efficiency than the Tesla.. that says a lot about Tesla IMHO.