@@DamianS78 Refurbished probably, they seem to all be around $500 Not like that’s gonna be any problem since it’s a Thinkpad, that thing could probably survive the Biblical apocalypse
@@gilanggilang9859 Same except I got the i7-8650u 16gb ram and 256gb ssd. Mine has a little scratch on the right side but it isn't noticeable unless you pay close attention. :)
New ThinkPads are fucking awful they have solderd ram no removable battery there thin the new keyboard is awful compared to the T420 and back keyboard the T480 is the last good ThinkPad anything beyond this is a butchered price of shit
Indeed. Compared to what I'm typically forced to look at during Hangouts sessions, the quality of the webcam looks pretty darn good, especially as the cam is up high instead of down by the keyboard where they always produce those up-the-nose shots.
The fingerprint reader is in the RIGHT place. If it's on the ower button, you risk clicking it in and Windows will power down or hibernate, while trying to logon. That's just mental to me. When you're trying to login, you already have your hands near the keyboard or touchpad. So the fingerprint near that, makes total sense.
The macbook pro handles this by ignoring the shutdown signal if it asks for a finger scan. But none the less its honestly whatever you prefer. Oh and the macbook keyboard is utterly DISGUSTING.
Linus don't encourage Lenovo X1 carbon series to have a bigger track pad. We use it for typing and non stop functionality. It's better and more ergonomic to have a middle sized track pad is better.
That, and nobody ever uses the trackpad on these. If you're at a desk you have a mouse (admit it: everyone plugs in their mouse to their laptop when at a desk) and if you're not a desk, the trackpoint is just fine. Trackpads need to go extinct.
@@hadenclaire I use trackball mice, so I've been known to use my trackball while walking around with a laptop. I never have understood the point of huge trackpads; I tend to rest my wrist on the computer while using it, so if I have to pick up and move my wrist...Why don't I just pick up and reposition my finger?
I use the trackpoint, the only thing I use the trackpad is for two finger scrolling. The track point is faster to use than a mouse so I don't use mice anymore. A pro tip set the track point speed to max and learn to use light touch, you will never use a mouse again.
Mp57navy that is so stupid im going to assume you just said that because you have a somewhat powerful desktop and are so full of yourself that you need to despise laptops to remind yourself how great you are for having a (probably shitty) desktop pc
The fingerprint reader is in the RIGHT place. Whenever I come back to my laptop, I don't want to have to reach far out. I want to unlock Windows while I'm sitting down in my chair in a seamless move.
ThinkPads are supposed to be ThinkPads, not macbooks. I don't understand the obsession with bigger trackpads. If anything, it is easier to type if you have a smaller or nonexistent trackpad. That seemed like a pretty good webcam to me but, then again, it is hardly the thing that I value most in a laptop. Now when it comes to being able to replace RAM, the X1 Carbon is a FAIL. It seemed pretty great up until that point.
Just got my third ThinkPad. I love Lenovo's whole approach towards this laptop, it nails the basics without much compromise. I am glad they managed to keep the ThinkPad brand alive even after so long since acquisition from IBM, they really did justice to it by not making it another Windows laptop in the market by copying a Mac design.
it seems laptop OEMs will never move on from that same 2007 720p camera module, with just the odd tablet-laptop thingy here and there sporting a 5MP sensor from a 2013 phone or something
EspHack thickness of the sensor module is probably a big limiting factor in laptops compared to phones front facing cameras. Even still they should be a lot better, especially on business class devices. Being the one in the conference call with really bad audio/video is not a good subconscious impression to leave
Damiano Truzzi I think it may possibly have something to with the custom software used by the best smartphone cameras like the pixel ,also the pixel has a dedicated imaging chip .but that said OEMs can definitely do better that what is the current standard
EspHack I think it's because no one really uses it? None of the people I know use the camera on a laptop...either phone, dedicated webcam, or actual camera. Itd be nice, but I think if they improved it, most still would not use it. Still, there should be at least an option to provide a better quality camera on top of the line laptops or even, have it as an add on upgrade for like 30-40 bucks.
A business laptop has to have a good webcam + good audio! That's one of the reasons why you buy them. On a mainstream laptop you really don't need it anymore (smartphones are better for that), therefore the OEMs can leave them out and make super slim bezels instead
Nathan Hromanik Exactly, I am a virgin who has a T470s with touchscreen issued by my company, and I can confidently say that it’s a much better experience being a virgin than using a trackpoint. The touchscreen, tho, gives me a whole lot better experience, like finally something from the civilized world on a thinkpad.
As a happy owner of a 5th gen X1 Carbon, the value proposition comes down to what kind of person you are. If you want a laptop that you can buy, and continue using for a LONG time, the X1 is a great choice. I’m a full time college student, and my tech doesn’t get treated nicely (think regular dropping on hard floors). My computer sustained virtually no physical damage, and the selection of ports are as stiff as day one. Buy a Surface laptop if you want a great computer for a few years, buy a Carbon if you want a good computer for a decade.
100% agreed. I use one in the service industry as a technician, and it has been dropped off ladders with only minor blemishes to the corners. The 5th gen is Rock solid, I can only hope that the 6th gen will be exactly the same build quality.
How's the battery life been? I have a surface pro 4 that (at whoppin 2 years old) is dying on me and I'm looking for a laptop that'll actually last (that's not a Mac)
The battery life on the X1 is pretty impressive. When it was new, I could easily expect 7-10hrs of battery (with standard settings), after about 4 years of heavy use and a decent amount of abuse, I still see 5-8hrs (again, depending on use.) My only complaint I have with mine is the necessity for the LAN adapter/dongle when using a wired network connection. As a service tech who is using the LAN connection constantly, it's a little inconvenient, and the dongle has started to show signs of wear. With this type of use though I can easily expect that. That is the only complaint I can come up with about it.
Actually, trackpoint is one of the main reason why I bought Thinkpad. I know it's not for everyone. But, considering its price, Thinkpad isn't for everyone So, yep, Thinkpad X1 Carbon is trying to impress me, and I am totally impressed
I don't really understand the appeal of them these days. They were made back in the day as an alternative to trackpads since trackpads in those days were horrible. But now that trackpads are fantastic, I fail to see the appeal.
@Fizzbuzz Idk, I just could never get used to it. It's like you have 0 control over your mouse with it. I mean I get they were super useful back in the day when touchpads were horrible, but now that touchpads are so precise and easy to use, I don't really get the appeal of trackpoints outside of maybe coding.
Konstantinos I thought the video was going to be really deep and philosophical. Edit- Video title was changed from "who are you trying to impress" without the computer name or anything.
Lenovo for business is the only choice I'd ever go with. The range of options, such as sim slots, number of ports, battery options, over all build quality and mostly the awesome dock support makes it a no brainer. I have used nothing but Lenovo for business over the last 7-8 years, and the first ones I got are still running strong.
looking at front cameras on smartphones, every single laptop is pure shit. You have to search a while to find a laptop with more than 1 MP camera, while smartphones have 8+ MP for years. The OnePlus 3T has even 16 MP and yet you can buy the latest Asus Notebooks with 0.3 MP. This is a disaster.
True but when you consider how well Front Facing Camera has gotten on smartphones, you kind of start asking why is none of the laptop manufacturers are using those sensors?
You have unlimited access to all things computers, no matter how expensive, yet you still take the time to mention how much things cost. I appreciate this.
@@unbroken1010 That's no excuse for a notebook at a premium price point with mediocre performance specs. A $400 notebook doesn't need a great microphone. A $1,500 business oriented notebook should have the best microphone they can fit in it. Microsoft, Apple, and Dell don't seem to have an issue with that.
Well they noticed the mistake and fixed it within hours after its upload... A "terrible" title is a bit too dramatic, and whether you were looking for this laptop or not you still found the video anyways so why does it make a difference?
You forgot to mention one of the best upgrades for these, especially for the traveler... you can install a WWAN module(or cellular wireless card) - a feature not found on a lot of other laptops All in all I really like my 4th gen, though I do have a small crack in the top case. A friend got a 2nd gen refurb that failed under warranty and he got it replaces with a refurb TS4XX model. My sister got a 5th gen just as they went on sale before the refresh and likes it as well. Also superfish was never on the business class laptops. In spite of all the shenanigans they play with consumer grade hardware, the business lines remain fairly solid and no-nonsense.
I clicked this video because I just watch most things Linus does, but from the title and thumbnail I had no idea what this video was about. Anyone looking for a review of this, or any laptop for that matter likely won’t click it.
+Frigid Farmerwhoisrelegiousinaweidway this is worse than the xps 13 video title and thumbnail for certain I was fine with the first move away from the broll with simple text on top but this legit has nothing to do with the thinkpad.
Why is the choice almost always low-res matter or hi-res glossy? I guess people just fall for the glossy screen when they see it in the store since it tends to make the contrast pop a bit more, but I despise glossy monitors.
I think colour reproduction is better on glossy, so maybe the companies figure if you need high resolution, you are designing stuff and glossy screens with good reproduction is what you want. Matte screens are good for text and text doesn't really need high resolutions or accurate colour reproduction.
I am using the X230 released in 2013 .. had to switch to Linux for performance on this older machine. Very happy with it. It will last another 3 years for sure.
I actually like small track pads, cause the large ones always in my way when I'm writing my novel :D so mainly that's why I will go with this laptop for work! :)
What’s keeping me buying the ThinkPad is the TrackPoint. Little red dot are awesome, I never tried Carbon. But I love my T470. They aren’t on the top of the line but heck they are reliable.
Trackpoints are just so easy and precise when you get used to it. Trackpads always feel glitchy on any non-apple laptop. I don't get why people do not enjoy the trackpoints. It's like one of the best inventions on a laptop IMO.
DSLRs will be gone by 2045 (or atleast as popular as film cameras today) They are already losing market share to mirrorless cameras, I would be suprised if dslrs were still dominant in the market place ten years from now. Of course mirrorless cameras will also eventually fall to cellphones or whatever camera tech comes next
Sony stopped making dslr? Odd. I saw one earlier today at bestbuy. But dslr wont be going anywhere as mirror-less cant capture as much detail as dslr. Same as dslr cant capture as much detail as film. Both film and dslr will always be here
This is funny to watch after other thinkpad videos which all complained about the trackpad being too big and only one button, while demanding this trackpad back into the future versions. Also this version has centered keyboard which many of the new ones don't have so this is pretty much perfect thinkpad if you ignore the price and non-existant repairability.
And I buy Thinkpads exclusively because of the Trackpoint. If you're like me and like to rest your hand on the palmrest (well, it's called the palmrest so you can rest the base of your palm on it), you will appreciate the Trackpoint. We can essentially control the whole computer (typing + mousing) without moving our palms. Yes, the palmrests do get worn out fairly quickly, but that's another issue.
The Trackpoint was also not meant to be used that way... (referring to 3:22) It's meant to be used like this: ua-cam.com/video/jb7p3VkQCOo/v-deo.html (ignore the rants, that's just Louis -- and the trackpoint buttons have been fixed since the *50 series anyway) And also to play games: ua-cam.com/video/NNJsFURpMT4/v-deo.html
This video is like a piece of candy stuffed inside a can of pickled herring. Sure you can get the candy in there, but was it worth it? edit: They added "Lenovo X1 Carbon Review" to the title, this comment is no longer relevant.
Please do a Thinkpad P1 review. None of the big channels reviewed the P1 and it's the one workstation that far surpass the MacBook Pro top configuration
(For anyone reading this) For those who weren't born in 1986 or before: The so-called "nub" / "mouse nipple" = is actually called a "Pointing Stick". The so-called "trackpad" = is actually called a "Touchpad". ("Trackpoint" is actually a proprietary name given by IBM (and later Lenovo). Similar to "Kleenex", "Velcro", and "Xerox" (in that they are all proprietary-names)). P.S. @Linus-Sebastian (& anyone-else complaining-about the-pointing-stick): Here: ua-cam.com/video/7H8o_-7bKIU/v-deo.html (A Tutorial on how-to-use the pointing-stick). Also: As far as I know, the switched-places "Function" (ie. Fn) and "Control" (ie. Ctrl) keyboard-keys were done for Ergonomy reasons. The spacebar acts as the function-button to turn on-&-off the keyboard-backlight, and the Fn key was moved to the lower-left-hand-corner to make it easier to find in the dark. [Here's an interview in which the inventor/designer/originator/creator about it discusses it:] ua-cam.com/video/foOCDeiTmAo/v-deo.html
Thanks for updating the title, this is a video I've been waiting for and while I understand you guys need to make enticing titles in order to get as much viewership as possible, I personally may have skipped the video if it weren't for knowing the subject of the video to begin with.
plz get your hands on xiaomi gaming notbook 2018. i7 8cores, 16gb ram 256ssd + 1tb , gtx1060 6gb, ips matte screen fhd.... tones of ports... super small... from 1030€ to 1350€ based on model.
This sure brings back memories of playing games like megaman 3, final fantasy 7 and original pixel doom back in 2005. It all ended when it was smashed at the LAX airport. That's when my childhood ended.
Thats actually a good point. I still use the E535 I picked up for 400€ about 6 years ago. I took it to university everyday, traveled with it and even had a bike accident with it beeing my backpack. The thing still works like a charm! Undo four screws and you can easily clean the fan. Undo two more and you can put new thermal paste on the CPU. Thinkpads are build to last, and they do. Best 400€ I´ve ever spend.
I still have a w530, and is still a damn beast. upgraded to the max with a core i7, 32 gigs of ram, 256gb msata SSD, 2tb HDD, and 1TB SDD on cd room expansion bay, added two extra USB 3.0 sub ports with a expresscard adapter, and finally, replaced the LCD pannel with a full HD one. for a computer that is about 7 years old, I'd say is a damn impressive machine.
I used to use this laptop for work. It was good, keyboard was awesome, resolution was awesome, the only downfall was a bit less style (that port was awesome too). I thought about buying one for myself but man it's pricy as hell.
Look into the Xiaomi Mi Notebook Pro (Both normal and GTX Editions). Amazing laptop, good build quality, long battery life, same components available and they don't run higher than 1200$ (the top model with the i7 8650U, 16 gigs of ram, GTX1050 and 256 gig ssd with one open slot)
Lumi I believe it’s just supposed to tether the device to a certain area so you can’t physically steal it, which is only something you’d need on a business laptop with very valuable info on it. I don’t get why they put them on consumer laptops, nobody uses them lols
MultiCjrox I don’t see why there’s a reason to include them in production devices though. There are many ultrabooks without Kensington lock ports that are put on display and stores still find ways to secure them properly.
Actually my dad's work place has Kensington locks because it's really necessary that other departments can't use your laptop. So only if you bring it home with you is it not locked and then your access to the sensitive stuff is limited due to not being on the network. I have a feeling my mom's workplace is considering it but both of their work places are pretty high in security requirements across the board so it's not exactly the norm. So the department access is limited inside the company which stops un-authorized users from accessing it. BTW this is not a consumer laptop but a corporate business laptop with the required security just sold to consumers as a secondary market because my dad is getting this laptop or something similar.
I personally think that the trackpads size is perfect, mostly because I would rather use the track point. But I do use the trackpad occasionally, and its great in my opinion.
My company uses these and a few other models in our lifecycle system. They are pretty solid. But Lenovo is pushing us off the mechanical docks onto the type c dock
Four years later, as a $500 used laptop, this makes an EXCELLENT mobile Linux development platform for personal projects
where do you get this for 500 bucks?
@@DamianS78 Refurbished probably, they seem to all be around $500
Not like that’s gonna be any problem since it’s a Thinkpad, that thing could probably survive the Biblical apocalypse
I GOT 412$ For i5 16gbram 256gb but scrath on back.
@@gilanggilang9859 Same except I got the i7-8650u 16gb ram and 256gb ssd. Mine has a little scratch on the right side but it isn't noticeable unless you pay close attention. :)
I GOT RECOMMEND THIS TOO YOOÓOOO
We use Thinkpads in our company and I can say that Lenovo's keyboard is one of the best typing experience that I've ever had.
Is it good to use in light video edit
does yours get quite warm when you use it in tablet mode?
Yeah, a shame that I use this attached keyboard to type on :P Mech keyboards still easily beat it.
New ThinkPads are fucking awful they have solderd ram no removable battery there thin the new keyboard is awful compared to the T420 and back keyboard the T480 is the last good ThinkPad anything beyond this is a butchered price of shit
@Jean-Paul Teitu II did you watch the video?
Can Someone just mount A DSLR to a laptop so Linus can give the webcam a good score??
Indeed. Compared to what I'm typically forced to look at during Hangouts sessions, the quality of the webcam looks pretty darn good, especially as the cam is up high instead of down by the keyboard where they always produce those up-the-nose shots.
I could probably make a phone with a DSLR 🙃
Yeah its like they hardware accelerate the pixels, up scale to 2K its like this looks so much better then my old 720 camera.
Does anyone else hate facial recognition?
@@pj0017 I do too
The fingerprint reader is in the RIGHT place. If it's on the ower button, you risk clicking it in and Windows will power down or hibernate, while trying to logon. That's just mental to me.
When you're trying to login, you already have your hands near the keyboard or touchpad. So the fingerprint near that, makes total sense.
The macbook pro handles this by ignoring the shutdown signal if it asks for a finger scan. But none the less its honestly whatever you prefer. Oh and the macbook keyboard is utterly DISGUSTING.
I've seen the fingerprint sensor embedded in the trackpad itself. *hurl*
The Garden of Eatin lmao honestly
The power button on x1 is different, you'll need hold for 1 solid second till it go to sleep mode
@@thegardenofeatin5965 I've seen that too it's a complete eyesore
Linus don't encourage Lenovo X1 carbon series to have a bigger track pad. We use it for typing and non stop functionality. It's better and more ergonomic to have a middle sized track pad is better.
Yeah, I freaking hate maxipads that rely on software to not move when you're typing. The size of the X1C is more than enough.
That, and nobody ever uses the trackpad on these. If you're at a desk you have a mouse (admit it: everyone plugs in their mouse to their laptop when at a desk) and if you're not a desk, the trackpoint is just fine. Trackpads need to go extinct.
@@hadenclaire I use trackball mice, so I've been known to use my trackball while walking around with a laptop. I never have understood the point of huge trackpads; I tend to rest my wrist on the computer while using it, so if I have to pick up and move my wrist...Why don't I just pick up and reposition my finger?
Yeah, we might get the t440 again
I use the trackpoint, the only thing I use the trackpad is for two finger scrolling. The track point is faster to use than a mouse so I don't use mice anymore. A pro tip set the track point speed to max and learn to use light touch, you will never use a mouse again.
I would really like to see Linus review more business and work-grade laptops.
Work-grade. What does that even mean? Laptops are for typing things, and watching videos. For anything else, you use a desktop PC.
Mp57navy obviously you aren't in the field of work I am
Mp57navy bloody pillock
Mp57navy
that is so stupid im going to assume you just said that because you have a somewhat powerful desktop and are so full of yourself that you need to despise laptops to remind yourself how great you are for having a (probably shitty) desktop pc
@@Mp57navy Lmao are you serious?
The fingerprint reader is in the RIGHT place.
Whenever I come back to my laptop, I don't want to have to reach far out. I want to unlock Windows while I'm sitting down in my chair in a seamless move.
ThinkPads are supposed to be ThinkPads, not macbooks. I don't understand the obsession with bigger trackpads. If anything, it is easier to type if you have a smaller or nonexistent trackpad. That seemed like a pretty good webcam to me but, then again, it is hardly the thing that I value most in a laptop. Now when it comes to being able to replace RAM, the X1 Carbon is a FAIL. It seemed pretty great up until that point.
Agreed, i really wish they still made laptops without trackpads/touchpads/whatever, just have touchscreens and trackpoint and you got a great combo.
The fuck are you on about, just buy a tablet?
The webcam looked fine, especially for video conferencing. The microphone, on the other hand, was a diaper fire.
The size is fine, the texture SUCKS. I could use a piece of 10 grit sandpaper and would feel about the same.
It would be best of both worlds if there is a decent size trackpad with the option to turn it off when not in use.
Just got my third ThinkPad. I love Lenovo's whole approach towards this laptop, it nails the basics without much compromise. I am glad they managed to keep the ThinkPad brand alive even after so long since acquisition from IBM, they really did justice to it by not making it another Windows laptop in the market by copying a Mac design.
"not a TrackPoint guy"
*Heretic.*
Track points are vintage and cool lol
it seems laptop OEMs will never move on from that same 2007 720p camera module, with just the odd tablet-laptop thingy here and there sporting a 5MP sensor from a 2013 phone or something
EspHack thickness of the sensor module is probably a big limiting factor in laptops compared to phones front facing cameras. Even still they should be a lot better, especially on business class devices. Being the one in the conference call with really bad audio/video is not a good subconscious impression to leave
Damiano Truzzi I think it may possibly have something to with the custom software used by the best smartphone cameras like the pixel ,also the pixel has a dedicated imaging chip .but that said OEMs can definitely do better that what is the current standard
EspHack I think it's because no one really uses it? None of the people I know use the camera on a laptop...either phone, dedicated webcam, or actual camera. Itd be nice, but I think if they improved it, most still would not use it.
Still, there should be at least an option to provide a better quality camera on top of the line laptops or even, have it as an add on upgrade for like 30-40 bucks.
EspHack o
A business laptop has to have a good webcam + good audio! That's one of the reasons why you buy them.
On a mainstream laptop you really don't need it anymore (smartphones are better for that), therefore the OEMs can leave them out and make super slim bezels instead
So, you're not a track point guy... Someone hand me the pitchforks!
I am so a track point guy, and i wish they would let other laptop companies use it
Yeah, first thing I do is disable the trackpad, I literally never use it because that little red dot is so much better.
unsubscribed after his trackpoint put down.
I'm not even going to watch the video then. Anti-ThinkPad people are cringey.
i do love the trackpoint in thinkpad. its very nice to use when u need to switch many times from typing and using a pointer(mouse).
For a future video, you should take a look at Chinese made unbranded graphics cards off of eBay and whether they're any good or not.
cardsfanbj Yes! That would be a very interesting video!
THIS
No, these are all bad in a sense that they are not the cards they seem to be. The 960s often are a 460/560 with a flashed bios.
I need to see this
We know they're not good, but not everyone does, I think that would be a great video
Track points are awesome! Moving the mouse with high speed and high accuracy while not even leaving he home roll!
3:34 HERESY HERESY !!! You criticized the red track point !! You even dared to mention its sacred name !!
I hace t480s and I never use that red track point... i wish incould Renove It xd
@@justarandomlol just do it lol
@Pudgems @Chang Ye only do it if you really hace it and are sure you want to remove it
Who needs a track pad when you got track point. When I had T-61 I was a fairly competent player in 1.6.
Touch screen over track point all day any day. I use aT470s 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, I take every method to avoid using trackpoint.
Track point is the way to go. If you don't know how to use it you're a virgin.
Sounds like a bloody good deal if all the cost to avoid using trackpoint is merely being called a virgin.
Nanorisk sounds like something someone who hasn't had sex would say...
Nathan Hromanik Exactly, I am a virgin who has a T470s with touchscreen issued by my company, and I can confidently say that it’s a much better experience being a virgin than using a trackpoint. The touchscreen, tho, gives me a whole lot better experience, like finally something from the civilized world on a thinkpad.
"might not appeal to folks who gravitate to prettier devices" excuse me? No laptop is better looking than a thinkpad.
xd
I thought it was just me.
Trash UNLIMITED not in a world where macbooks, xps and razer blades exist.
My child is perfect and everyone agrees my L490 is the prettiest in the world
The razer blade 15 is better looking
Cant beat that carbon :D :D :D
As a happy owner of a 5th gen X1 Carbon, the value proposition comes down to what kind of person you are. If you want a laptop that you can buy, and continue using for a LONG time, the X1 is a great choice. I’m a full time college student, and my tech doesn’t get treated nicely (think regular dropping on hard floors). My computer sustained virtually no physical damage, and the selection of ports are as stiff as day one. Buy a Surface laptop if you want a great computer for a few years, buy a Carbon if you want a good computer for a decade.
100% agreed. I use one in the service industry as a technician, and it has been dropped off ladders with only minor blemishes to the corners. The 5th gen is Rock solid, I can only hope that the 6th gen will be exactly the same build quality.
How's the battery life been? I have a surface pro 4 that (at whoppin 2 years old) is dying on me and I'm looking for a laptop that'll actually last (that's not a Mac)
The battery life on the X1 is pretty impressive. When it was new, I could easily expect 7-10hrs of battery (with standard settings), after about 4 years of heavy use and a decent amount of abuse, I still see 5-8hrs (again, depending on use.) My only complaint I have with mine is the necessity for the LAN adapter/dongle when using a wired network connection. As a service tech who is using the LAN connection constantly, it's a little inconvenient, and the dongle has started to show signs of wear. With this type of use though I can easily expect that. That is the only complaint I can come up with about it.
@@filiperocha4025 why?
Please do an updated video with the generation 7 X1 Carbon. They listened to us!
Connor Chaney actually tho. I really hope they do an update video on the new model.
Actually, trackpoint is one of the main reason why I bought Thinkpad. I know it's not for everyone. But, considering its price, Thinkpad isn't for everyone
So, yep, Thinkpad X1 Carbon is trying to impress me, and I am totally impressed
@Jean-Paul Teitu II yeah, your job won't help you when you are dead. So why won't you quit your job
2:27 I want to know how 18 millimiters travel distance feels...
(Edit: 2:34 to 2:27)
Lenovo's web site says 1.8mm, not 18mm. 18mm is thicker than the whole thing I think.
Billy O'Neal yes
18mm is 1.8cm and it is 2.54cm per inch.
we are talking 0.7" simply between the keys
Novelkey's Kailh-made Big Switch has about 15mm of travel, close enough?
Billy O'Neal I know but linus said 18 millimeters
For worksite jobs, trackpoint is king, because you can use it with gloves... not so much so for touchscreen or mousepad...
Why does the thumbnail of this video reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg?
PsPuNkS Facebook is trying too hard to impress?
Because of zucc haircut 😂😂😂
Give me the zucc
snipping tool ... WIN+SHIFT+S
You've changed my life
Also, in thinkpad, Fn+PrtSc will open up snipping tool.
E-learning made easier
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
TrackPoints are something you will learn to appreciate if you fly a lot.IMO.
Evarate Lookup the way it was made. The material was discovered by accident.
I don't really understand the appeal of them these days. They were made back in the day as an alternative to trackpads since trackpads in those days were horrible. But now that trackpads are fantastic, I fail to see the appeal.
You'll appreciate trackpoints more when you work with gloves on.
@Fizzbuzz Idk, I just could never get used to it. It's like you have 0 control over your mouse with it. I mean I get they were super useful back in the day when touchpads were horrible, but now that touchpads are so precise and easy to use, I don't really get the appeal of trackpoints outside of maybe coding.
@@merritt2014 I find it reasonably easy control wise its good when I'm on the go because I can type and select quickly
That thumbnail killed me
Konstantinos I thought the video was going to be really deep and philosophical.
Edit- Video title was changed from "who are you trying to impress" without the computer name or anything.
linus looks like Zucc in a suit
Matt Parsons ...earrings thoooo
SAME LMAO!
I thought this was a venom trailer.
I love how whenever I’m considering buying something so I search about it on UA-cam, there’s a LTT review on it.
2:25 when he said 18mm I was like "Holy shit that's some serious workout for each finger!"
18 mm key travel? Really? Wow, that's an amazing editing mistake!
What do you mean? Nothing wrong with that kind of travel. I mean, I've been using 1" key travel for years now. :P
Is it? You never make mistakes yourself?
@Jesse Hernandez, Canadians use metric system.
wrong. We use the metric system >:D
do some research before you say anything :)
Lenovo for business is the only choice I'd ever go with. The range of options, such as sim slots, number of ports, battery options, over all build quality and mostly the awesome dock support makes it a no brainer. I have used nothing but Lenovo for business over the last 7-8 years, and the first ones I got are still running strong.
Linus, I work for University IT. I can tell you who this impresses, especially coming from mostly overpriced dell products...
me. haha
Somebody link a laptop with a webcam Linus actually likes.
Yeah no kidding. Looked fine to me!
Looked fine, sounded terrible.
He praises razer’s webcams but they’re trash compared to this one
looking at front cameras on smartphones, every single laptop is pure shit. You have to search a while to find a laptop with more than 1 MP camera, while smartphones have 8+ MP for years. The OnePlus 3T has even 16 MP and yet you can buy the latest Asus Notebooks with 0.3 MP. This is a disaster.
True but when you consider how well Front Facing Camera has gotten on smartphones, you kind of start asking why is none of the laptop manufacturers are using those sensors?
idk ltt has gone so downhill with titles that you don't even know what the video is about. wtf
Edit: thanks for at least adding the laptop name
adb27 yeah... :/
It says X1 Thinkpad Review right in the title... What more do you want? An abstract?
That explains a hell of a lot, at least they fixed it up?
Craseder They changed it afterwards. At the beginnig it was kind like: "Who do you want to impress?"
You have unlimited access to all things computers, no matter how expensive, yet you still take the time to mention how much things cost. I appreciate this.
My work bought this for me. I love it. It’s incredible.
The thing that struck me about the webcam wasn't the camera, but how unacceptably bad the microphone is.
So hook one up
@@unbroken1010 That's no excuse for a notebook at a premium price point with mediocre performance specs. A $400 notebook doesn't need a great microphone. A $1,500 business oriented notebook should have the best microphone they can fit in it. Microsoft, Apple, and Dell don't seem to have an issue with that.
Windows key + Shift + S Makes you use the snipping tool, sort of the example that Linus made in this video about switching it over.
"I like to unlock a computer with my face" creates an interesting mental image.
I've got the 2016 one for work. It's great, super light and battery lasts forever!
I literally spit out my apple when he said 18mm of key travel.
absolutely terrible title and thumbnail if I was looking for a review of this laptop I wouldn't click on this.
skatcat743 that's why though... who cares about laptop reviews any more?
Well they noticed the mistake and fixed it within hours after its upload... A "terrible" title is a bit too dramatic, and whether you were looking for this laptop or not you still found the video anyways so why does it make a difference?
Here we are a year later and I’m getting one for college. 6th gen with the glossy screen for 1200$ after discounts. Amazing deal
I cant even impress my old computer by trying to do something else because I always end up playing for long hours...
That is sick! Just sick!
wtf Frigid
You forgot to mention one of the best upgrades for these, especially for the traveler... you can install a WWAN module(or cellular wireless card) - a feature not found on a lot of other laptops
All in all I really like my 4th gen, though I do have a small crack in the top case. A friend got a 2nd gen refurb that failed under warranty and he got it replaces with a refurb TS4XX model. My sister got a 5th gen just as they went on sale before the refresh and likes it as well.
Also superfish was never on the business class laptops. In spite of all the shenanigans they play with consumer grade hardware, the business lines remain fairly solid and no-nonsense.
The hell man. The camera looks pretty damn good looking at the footage.
win+shift+s
that is shortcut for snipping tool
AreYouConfused _ scrolled a lot to find you.
i personally prefer installing greenshot :D
Greenshot and ShareX are both pretty good at doing snipping tool's job
I clicked this video because I just watch most things Linus does, but from the title and thumbnail I had no idea what this video was about. Anyone looking for a review of this, or any laptop for that matter likely won’t click it.
It has the laptop name in the title.
Melted Cheese it originally did not
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What a horrible title :(
+Frigid Farmerwhoisrelegiousinaweidway this is worse than the xps 13 video title and thumbnail for certain I was fine with the first move away from the broll with simple text on top but this legit has nothing to do with the thinkpad.
It's odd not to mention the product in the title for people searching.
the karnige must suck not to understand the concept of criticism
the karnige. it might be hard for some people to watch this free content if it doesn't come up when searching for thinkpad.
It's okay man you're not alone
Why is the choice almost always low-res matter or hi-res glossy? I guess people just fall for the glossy screen when they see it in the store since it tends to make the contrast pop a bit more, but I despise glossy monitors.
Yeah same. If the lighting in the room isn't perfect, you get glare and you can't see shit. And then there's the smudges...
the thinkpad t480 has a mate 1440p option.
I think colour reproduction is better on glossy, so maybe the companies figure if you need high resolution, you are designing stuff and glossy screens with good reproduction is what you want. Matte screens are good for text and text doesn't really need high resolutions or accurate colour reproduction.
How do you like the quality compared to the glossy? I've been trying to decide, but I can't find a good comparison of the two QHD ones.
@@Not123Or did you change out the panel?
I am using the X230 released in 2013 .. had to switch to Linux for performance on this older machine.
Very happy with it. It will last another 3 years for sure.
I actually like small track pads, cause the large ones always in my way when I'm writing my novel :D so mainly that's why I will go with this laptop for work! :)
@Abby H 2025 Oh, yes, and (luckily) I've got plenty of time to finish my actual one in this lockdown times :)
I think it impressed Lewis from Unbox Therapy
I don't know why but I am watching it at the end of 2019
Better then me, i'm watching in the beginning of 2020 xD
@@Timy-Stream Oh, dear, this is going to be a long thread :)
@@owlstead Don't even talk about it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They make great music production laptops. Tons of legacy USB but with thunderbolt as an option makes it wonderful as a show computer.
What’s keeping me buying the ThinkPad is the TrackPoint.
Little red dot are awesome, I never tried Carbon. But I love my T470. They aren’t on the top of the line but heck they are reliable.
Booooook... Lenovo Trackpoints are awesome. Far faster and more exact than the dumb touchpad. Just set it to the fastest lightest setting possible..
@@00O3O1B ^ I agree
My dad works in it so I grew up learning to use it, I feel stupid using a trackpad
I actually prefer more precise input, so I set the sensitivity on the trackpoint to medium and turn off acceleration.
Trackpoints are just so easy and precise when you get used to it. Trackpads always feel glitchy on any non-apple laptop. I don't get why people do not enjoy the trackpoints. It's like one of the best inventions on a laptop IMO.
Oh no! The lizard zucc has taken over linus!
I work in consulting for almost 5 years, never used t f webcam. Don't recall anyone using it ever...
Now u gonna need em
RAM not being upgradable legit made my brain short circuit
This laptop was amazing! It was my workhorse for 4 years, no problems. The only reason I gave it away was because the screen wasn't glossy style.
Rofl 7:20.
Linus: We built a fricking bedroom, we're going to use it goddammit!
in 2045 laptops will have built in dslrs for webcams
DSLRs will be gone by 2045 (or atleast as popular as film cameras today) They are already losing market share to mirrorless cameras, I would be suprised if dslrs were still dominant in the market place ten years from now. Of course mirrorless cameras will also eventually fall to cellphones or whatever camera tech comes next
where are you?
Sony doesn't even really make DSLRs anymore.
But lg gram will still have 480p
Sony stopped making dslr? Odd. I saw one earlier today at bestbuy. But dslr wont be going anywhere as mirror-less cant capture as much detail as dslr. Same as dslr cant capture as much detail as film. Both film and dslr will always be here
Just bought this..and I'm absolutely in love
how is it?
@@backdraftmagnet thank you for your feedback! Getting mine today with the HDR 2K display and 16gb RAM for $1350!
This is funny to watch after other thinkpad videos which all complained about the trackpad being too big and only one button, while demanding this trackpad back into the future versions. Also this version has centered keyboard which many of the new ones don't have so this is pretty much perfect thinkpad if you ignore the price and non-existant repairability.
DAMN. I DIDNT SKIP THE AD IN TIME! Linus is always slick with his ads
The smaller track pad prevents you from accidentally touching it while typing and getting strange mouse movements.
Outdated excuse from 2015, plenty of manufacturers have much bigger trackpads with better palm rejection and no ghost touches.
That's like the best webcam I've ever seen in a Windows laptop
the thumbnail makes you look like you have enough neck to offset jacksfilms' forehead
but how about those stock photos?
consistently good in reviewing in gadget... all i need to know in one video clip
An ad inside of and other ad, before the final ad. Mindblowing
18mm keyboard buttons travel. LOL sorry i know there is correction but i was like WTF for a moment
I finally bought this in 2023 XD
How is it? Thinking of buying it for work reasons
Linus would love the T440/T540/X240-series trackpad which is a lot like the Macbook's. He wouldn't be popular on r/thinkpad though.
Autunite not many would be
Yeah it's horrible.
And I buy Thinkpads exclusively because of the Trackpoint. If you're like me and like to rest your hand on the palmrest (well, it's called the palmrest so you can rest the base of your palm on it), you will appreciate the Trackpoint. We can essentially control the whole computer (typing + mousing) without moving our palms.
Yes, the palmrests do get worn out fairly quickly, but that's another issue.
The Trackpoint was also not meant to be used that way... (referring to 3:22)
It's meant to be used like this: ua-cam.com/video/jb7p3VkQCOo/v-deo.html (ignore the rants, that's just Louis -- and the trackpoint buttons have been fixed since the *50 series anyway)
And also to play games: ua-cam.com/video/NNJsFURpMT4/v-deo.html
I just completed work on a Lenovo before watching this vid. I think these machines looking and feeling the way they do makes me more productive tbh 😂
3:36 "sorry, sorry everyone" - you are Canadian for sure. :)
This video is like a piece of candy stuffed inside a can of pickled herring.
Sure you can get the candy in there, but was it worth it?
edit: They added "Lenovo X1 Carbon Review" to the title, this comment is no longer relevant.
Kensworth what
Please elaborate
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They added "Lenovo X1 Carbon Review" to the title, this comment is no longer relevant.
Trackpoint master race
One thing that would make the X1C more appealing is if there was a discrete GPU - for data science, it would be the ultimate machine!
Best laptop ever!!! sturdy, light weight and a keyboard with good button traversal!
Shout-out to BERKEL and lil D
I miss the old IBM.
Please do a Thinkpad P1 review. None of the big channels reviewed the P1 and it's the one workstation that far surpass the MacBook Pro top configuration
Dave lee did that.
(For anyone reading this)
For those who weren't born in 1986 or before:
The so-called "nub" / "mouse nipple" = is actually called a "Pointing Stick".
The so-called "trackpad" = is actually called a "Touchpad".
("Trackpoint" is actually a proprietary name given by IBM (and later Lenovo). Similar to "Kleenex", "Velcro", and "Xerox" (in that they are all proprietary-names)).
P.S. @Linus-Sebastian (& anyone-else complaining-about the-pointing-stick):
Here: ua-cam.com/video/7H8o_-7bKIU/v-deo.html
(A Tutorial on how-to-use the pointing-stick).
Also: As far as I know, the switched-places "Function" (ie. Fn) and "Control" (ie. Ctrl) keyboard-keys were done for Ergonomy reasons. The spacebar acts as the function-button to turn on-&-off the keyboard-backlight, and the Fn key was moved to the lower-left-hand-corner to make it easier to find in the dark.
[Here's an interview in which the inventor/designer/originator/creator about it discusses it:] ua-cam.com/video/foOCDeiTmAo/v-deo.html
Thanks for updating the title, this is a video I've been waiting for and while I understand you guys need to make enticing titles in order to get as much viewership as possible, I personally may have skipped the video if it weren't for knowing the subject of the video to begin with.
plz get your hands on xiaomi gaming notbook 2018. i7 8cores, 16gb ram 256ssd + 1tb , gtx1060 6gb, ips matte screen fhd.... tones of ports... super small... from 1030€ to 1350€ based on model.
This is more focused on businesses to give their employees the ability to take their work around the office/home.
I don't know I'm just depressed.
Thanks for the Snipping Tool hint, I never new such a thing worked, this is awesome!
This sure brings back memories of playing games like megaman 3, final fantasy 7 and original pixel doom back in 2005. It all ended when it was smashed at the LAX airport. That's when my childhood ended.
ever heard glove? , u cant use trackpad when wearing it. trackpoint all the way
@Jean-Paul Teitu II nah typing and using the trackpad is also slower than the trackpoint
I still have the ThinkPad T410s.
T420 with quadcore and egpu... A new T480 looks juicy though
x230 here also! :)
Thats actually a good point. I still use the E535 I picked up for 400€ about 6 years ago. I took it to university everyday, traveled with it and even had a bike accident with it beeing my backpack. The thing still works like a charm!
Undo four screws and you can easily clean the fan. Undo two more and you can put new thermal paste on the CPU.
Thinkpads are build to last, and they do. Best 400€ I´ve ever spend.
I still have a w530, and is still a damn beast. upgraded to the max with a core i7, 32 gigs of ram, 256gb msata SSD, 2tb HDD, and 1TB SDD on cd room expansion bay, added two extra USB 3.0 sub ports with a expresscard adapter, and finally, replaced the LCD pannel with a full HD one.
for a computer that is about 7 years old, I'd say is a damn impressive machine.
Mine has an i5-520m, 4GB RAM and a 240GB SSD. It is a decent laptop considering I got it for free.
1:32 so if laptop like MacBook Pro doesn’t have that Ethernet port, what it have to do to connect to cooperation network?
Adapter?
hello IT admin here, we just use a VPN or a docking station
I have so much to complains about the design... and yet, it's still pretty much one of the best in the business class.
while the others arguing with linue over the laptop me thinking that is one of the best thumbmail the channel has done
I used to use this laptop for work. It was good, keyboard was awesome, resolution was awesome, the only downfall was a bit less style (that port was awesome too). I thought about buying one for myself but man it's pricy as hell.
Look into the Xiaomi Mi Notebook Pro (Both normal and GTX Editions).
Amazing laptop, good build quality, long battery life, same components available and they don't run higher than 1200$ (the top model with the i7 8650U, 16 gigs of ram, GTX1050 and 256 gig ssd with one open slot)
Who are you trying to impress? ...... with that poor titling.
Do laptop manufacturers realize that virtually no user (not even power users) actually uses the Kensington lock?
Lumi I believe it’s just supposed to tether the device to a certain area so you can’t physically steal it, which is only something you’d need on a business laptop with very valuable info on it. I don’t get why they put them on consumer laptops, nobody uses them lols
Gary Simcox do you realize that they have them on there so that retailers can have them out on display safely?
MultiCjrox I don’t see why there’s a reason to include them in production devices though. There are many ultrabooks without Kensington lock ports that are put on display and stores still find ways to secure them properly.
Actually my dad's work place has Kensington locks because it's really necessary that other departments can't use your laptop. So only if you bring it home with you is it not locked and then your access to the sensitive stuff is limited due to not being on the network. I have a feeling my mom's workplace is considering it but both of their work places are pretty high in security requirements across the board so it's not exactly the norm. So the department access is limited inside the company which stops un-authorized users from accessing it. BTW this is not a consumer laptop but a corporate business laptop with the required security just sold to consumers as a secondary market because my dad is getting this laptop or something similar.
Gary Simcox because there is a demand for them in the market and it's cheaper to make less variations of a product.
I personally think that the trackpads size is perfect, mostly because I would rather use the track point. But I do use the trackpad occasionally, and its great in my opinion.
My company uses these and a few other models in our lifecycle system. They are pretty solid. But Lenovo is pushing us off the mechanical docks onto the type c dock