Top 10 supernatural DOCTOR WHO villains that could return in RTD2

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  • @AidanGulaMedia
    @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому +8

    So, two months after posting this video I actually got my wish and Sutekh returned to Doctor Who! However many fans weren't happy with the Series 14 finale... In this new video, I talk about why I actually really enjoyed Sutekh's appearance in Empire of Death... ua-cam.com/video/tJNn_0Tfeuc/v-deo.htmlsi=jbutj9pjoNWA8g4x

  • @Lucifuh
    @Lucifuh 6 місяців тому +105

    4:48 boy do i have some news for you

  • @willkeen7669
    @willkeen7669 6 місяців тому +32

    One of these aged really well…

  • @unknownwrenchofficial
    @unknownwrenchofficial 6 місяців тому +75

    Welllllllll you were right about the one who waits 🤣

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому +26

      Here was me saying I thought the Gods of Ragnarok were most likely to return, but I'd quite like Sutekh... Little did I know...

    • @naruto199797
      @naruto199797 6 місяців тому

      ​@AidanGulaMedia they still could

  • @villals
    @villals 6 місяців тому +31

    6:18 oh boy did they take your challenge

  • @OnTheHorizon-
    @OnTheHorizon- 8 місяців тому +39

    Fun facts on DW lore:
    1. in some sources the Toymaker is 1 guardian of time, the guardian of dream and fantasy, along with 6 others.
    2. They key to time was built by the grace who are greater old ones to the great old ones (the guardians)
    3. 1 of the gods of ragnarok died to the hands of sutekh
    4. The doctor once made a bunch of eternals mortal as punishment
    5. The destroyer got ragdolled by sutekh
    6. Beings like fenric, the great intelligence, gods of ragnarok are all elder gods, who are als classed as sub guardians of time.
    7. The void is hinted at being somewhat sentient (maybe the one who waits, across everything......the darkness)
    8. All elder gods existed before the universe but also after
    9. The doctors universe is a fictional one to another universe in the multiverse
    10. The time lords once fought beings that where authors to the main doctor who universe
    👍🙂

    • @cameronmonaghan6883
      @cameronmonaghan6883 8 місяців тому +1

      Love most of these except for the last two. Would love to see The Guardians again. I always theorised that The Black Guardian is the leader of the Pantheon of Discord.

    • @OnTheHorizon-
      @OnTheHorizon- 8 місяців тому

      @@cameronmonaghan6883 take it u don’t like meta fictional type stuff? Ahah u wouldn’t like the war in heaven then I’ll tell u that 😂
      I don’t think the black guardian is the leader of the pantheon of discord, I think that’s truly the tricksters true from, as he is a mixture of all.
      Since u didn’t like the last 2. How about this one extra big piece of lore 😂:
      Kronos (the one from classic who) is not only a chronovore but is also half eternal, his parents are that of 1 chronovore named Prometheus and 1 eternal named Elektra. The eternals wanted him killed for the abomination that he was (mixed species) but The chronovores wanted him to survive. The guardians of time formed together to become the six fold god and make judgment on this issue, to keep peace between all transcendental beings they saved Kronos, however banished him, locked away.

    • @cameronmonaghan6883
      @cameronmonaghan6883 8 місяців тому

      @@OnTheHorizon- Meta Fiction doesn't really fit Doctor Who MO. Aside from the occasional wink to the audience.
      I think The Trickster is a pawn of the Guardian. Think of it as a hierarchy. Since they share an M.O
      I have read Quantum Archangel. And if it wasn't mentioned there I do recall seeing Kronos ' parentage on the Wiki.

    • @OnTheHorizon-
      @OnTheHorizon- 8 місяців тому

      @@cameronmonaghan6883 I think meta fiction works in dr who, it just fits, it’s been a thing since the late 90s

    • @cameronmonaghan6883
      @cameronmonaghan6883 8 місяців тому

      @@OnTheHorizon- Okay. So long as it doesn't go as far as Deadpool or Rick and Morty

  • @mr.wafflesrz1137
    @mr.wafflesrz1137 6 місяців тому +7

    4:38 He's back baby!

  • @nathanglencross2072
    @nathanglencross2072 8 місяців тому +7

    subscribed, liked, and commenting to boost this amazing video!!!
    my favourite entity is the trickster and I wanna see him come back SO BAD, because I grew up with the Sarah Jane adventures, and I miss Elizabeth sladen so much :'(

  • @50shadesofgeek41
    @50shadesofgeek41 6 місяців тому +2

    This aged beautifully! I personally would've had the Trickster on the list, but that's just me

  • @TARDIS9
    @TARDIS9 6 місяців тому +6

    Oh, boy! You guys totally predicted the series finale with this one!

  • @tylercarter8033
    @tylercarter8033 8 місяців тому +2

    How doesn’t this have more views. Great editing and video

    • @KingKhanAbz
      @KingKhanAbz 8 місяців тому

      It just got uploaded a day ago! It's killing it with views!

  • @qyntifex
    @qyntifex 6 місяців тому +1

    wow this video is so well-made! good call too :)

  • @SKIP-yj3xp
    @SKIP-yj3xp 8 місяців тому +10

    This is a great video. I've always wanted Sutekh to return. He was the villain in the "Pyramids of Mars", which was the first Doctor Who story I ever saw, way back in 1977.

    • @TheAliif
      @TheAliif 6 місяців тому

      Your wish is RTD’s command 🫡

  • @mr.sentient7344
    @mr.sentient7344 8 місяців тому +14

    Don't know if he really counts but I'd love to see the trickster return

    • @rezza_lynsaii
      @rezza_lynsaii 8 місяців тому +2

      If not some of his servants at least. The Pantheon Discord seems so cool

  • @MrGreaves
    @MrGreaves 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video man! Really enjoyed your editing and voiceover. Had me captivated from start to end. Hope some traction starts picking up for you!

  • @CJMarkus
    @CJMarkus 6 місяців тому +11

    4:33 Boy oh boy...

  • @JeremyDuncan
    @JeremyDuncan 8 місяців тому +14

    This is a wonderful wonderful video!!! As I have nothing constructive to add, I shall reference several memeable lines.
    "COME, KRONOS, COME!!!"
    "𝘐 𝘚𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘬𝘩 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘺 𝘨𝘪𝘧𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘬 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥!"
    "You have FAILED ME BOY! NYEHEHEHEHEHEH..."
    And last but not least: "EnterTAIN us!"

    • @royalelucifer
      @royalelucifer 6 місяців тому

      Well... He didn't exactly bring milk this time

  • @lukeprosser9943
    @lukeprosser9943 8 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic video! This was exactly the content I was hoping someone was going to make going into this new season. I’ve been doing lots of research on Gods in the Whoniverse since RTD has confirmed this new era will be experimenting with and implementing them. Specifically, I’m really excited for Maestro in The Devil’s Chord as RTD has confirmed they are the God of Music.

  • @ozcansolak3579
    @ozcansolak3579 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow, this is such a brilliant video! Keep them coming, please.

  • @cybermatstrikes7557
    @cybermatstrikes7557 8 місяців тому +1

    Love it, so many good threads to weave a story from here. Here's hoping.

  • @gaminggamer2594
    @gaminggamer2594 8 місяців тому +9

    I am 90% sure that the main villain of s1 is gonna be the Fehndal
    Few reasons:
    -The emphasis on salt. In Image of the Fehndal, that's used to kill/fend off the Fehndaleen (the big slug things)
    -We know there's gonna be big slug things
    -'The one who waits' sounds very Fehndal - it waited from the dawn of humanity to the 70s to awaken, so an apt moniker
    -It's a force of pure entropy, which fits with 'Empire of Death'. Also probably powerful enough to scare the toymaker off
    -I don't have the source on hand but I vaguely remember seeing an article saying that villains from 4 and 7 would be in season one. Grain of salt tho
    Good video!

    • @alistercrompton5084
      @alistercrompton5084 8 місяців тому

      No mention of 3rd Doctor story the daemons? Wasn't it the white guardian who took Tom Baker to Skaro? Also no Mara? Great intelligence anyone? The gelf with their using corpse as vehicles could also make for a dark zombie story. Good list though.

    • @cameronmonaghan6883
      @cameronmonaghan6883 8 місяців тому +2

      I thought he was referring to Omega but I love the Fendahl. The 13 gestalt concept is brilliant.

    • @davidspooner6909
      @davidspooner6909 8 місяців тому

      I hope it is. It's an organism that is the heart of darkness of all humanity, and, if you have read Simon Bucher-Jones' "Black archive" on "Image of the Fendahl", it's clearly something that isn't going away. Plus, RTD referred to it being a "trick he missed", when he talked about rerunning the original serial on Beeb3 in parallel with a sequal. Definitely deserves another story/arc, worthy of the late, great Chris Boucher

    • @davidspooner6909
      @davidspooner6909 8 місяців тому

      BTW, my favourite story, ever

  • @Henbot
    @Henbot 6 місяців тому +12

    SUETEKH BACK BABY

  • @jmcdonald.1998
    @jmcdonald.1998 8 місяців тому +2

    Very well researched and a very eloquent script. Well done I enjoyed this a lot. As a sucker for the 11th Doctor era, I would love to see Akhaten return and expanded.

  • @Lukeskywalker-hc5dd
    @Lukeskywalker-hc5dd 6 місяців тому +3

    This aged well!!!

  • @Osammar100
    @Osammar100 7 місяців тому +1

    Others have said it, but im saying it too - this is a great video. Thanks. Subscribed!

  • @thatgamerscott
    @thatgamerscott 8 місяців тому +1

    Liked and Subbed, really enjoyed this video, hope to see more :)

  • @QuintusStatiliousProcorpius
    @QuintusStatiliousProcorpius 6 місяців тому +4

    Congrats!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @helious5056
    @helious5056 7 місяців тому +4

    I was going to say comparing sutekh to Thanos was off but
    Both named after gods
    Both members of God like alien species
    Both eventually are feared, considered mad and cast out by there people
    Both view death and or destruction as good and take joy in it
    And both muddy the lines between what is sci Fi and what is fantasy, what is supernatural and what is reality
    Now I wanna see em fight

  • @shemdellashemygd29
    @shemdellashemygd29 7 місяців тому +2

    Rtd did say he had meetings with the team of big finish so can't wait to see what else he introduces

  • @Whisper_and_Sigh
    @Whisper_and_Sigh 8 місяців тому +9

    I would have included the Fendahl in the list.

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 8 місяців тому +1

    Great vid

  • @william2496
    @william2496 8 місяців тому +3

    I think more references to teh Dark Times of the universe before the web of time was built and timelords established hegemony will be referenced and villains anything between the Racnoss, Great Vampires, Ravenous, Terileptals and Osirans will come up. The Beast came from the universe before, Davapara Yuga in Hinduism but also in DW expanded media, as did the mysterious 'Disciples of Light' and the Doctor (the timeless child)- which Tecteun wanted to explore with him. I think there'll at least be references to the Beast. And Sutekh or Fenric have to return, incredible characters.

  • @thatssomavin
    @thatssomavin 6 місяців тому +5

    Sutekh

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981 6 місяців тому +1

    I agree with you that Sutekh is the villain that I'd like to see return the most. I always loved Pyramids of Mars, and I feel that he's pretty much the only villain powerful and evil enough to make the Toymaker *not* want to play his game (assuming that The One Who Waits is a returning villain and not something new). I think the only one on this list that I _wouldn't_ be particularly excited to see again is the Destroyer, just because I want the Brigadier to be able to keep that victory; nothing against the character, I just always had a soft spot for the Brigadier.

  • @MarcosSantos-dj6lk
    @MarcosSantos-dj6lk 6 місяців тому

    that's why I'm so excited to this new era the bigger budget will brings a lot of this entities in large scale for us. HYPE

  • @db7541
    @db7541 6 місяців тому +3

    Would have included the Mara but otherwise a good list

  • @timecontroller8800
    @timecontroller8800 8 місяців тому +1

    I really want to see fenric again because of how he was portrayed in the black and white tardis arc and the elder gods appeared along side him so I would love to see the doctor go against the elder gods

  • @markpatrick2735
    @markpatrick2735 8 місяців тому +1

    brilliant vid. but what about the trickster and his hordes?

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  8 місяців тому

      Mentioned at the end. I just gathered 10 (mainly Classic Who) that I thought were in with the highest chance of returning. As The Trickster was created by Gareth Roberts, I'm not sure he'd be very willing to allow him to return to Doctor Who so didn't include him here.

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 6 місяців тому +2

    Sutekh's black pyramid is on Earth. The eye of Horus beams a restricting force field from Mars trapping him there.

    • @Concreteowl
      @Concreteowl 6 місяців тому

      One of the names of Sutekh is Satan and both speak with the same voice.

  • @jellybabiesarecool4657
    @jellybabiesarecool4657 7 місяців тому +4

    The Trickster and Sutekh are the most likely

  • @lloroshastar6347
    @lloroshastar6347 6 місяців тому +1

    I feel like Sutekh's powers were exaggerated somewhat. If he can destroy the entire universe with just a thought, and that was his plan, then why didn't he do it? It is also not clear where his power comes from, and he is meant to be one of a race of many (the Osirans), so why would he have powers that are so much more powerful than everyone else 'just because'? He clearly must have a source for his power, and I don't think he can just kill everything at a moments notice, the Doctor in Pyramids of Mars implied that he would first start with Earth then move on to other worlds, I think he actually needs to be present within a certain radius for his powers to work. He was also imprisoned, so his powers aren't limitless or he would be able to simply escape. It was also implied that he can be destroyed, but that he wasn't because it was against the principles of the Osirans.

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому

      He didn't do it because then he would destroy himself. He still wants a universe to rule over. I just used that as an example for something he could do. But it is telling that in all of Sutekh's appearances (so far), he has never been at full power - which I think is very telling of how powerful he is. If writers deliberately need to restrict him, then it's clear he is of an immense power that isn't easily defeated. He was only defeated and imprisoned originally by others of the same race as him. But now he's the last of the Osirans so there's no one even remotely with his power out there

    • @lloroshastar6347
      @lloroshastar6347 6 місяців тому

      @@AidanGulaMedia then I guess hell destroy the universe with a thought and Doctor Who will be cancelled

  • @termostato2995
    @termostato2995 6 місяців тому +2

    6:20 oh boy

  • @1rhpsfan
    @1rhpsfan 8 місяців тому +3

    I can be your strength, I can be the last nightmare you ever have, you will agree to be me sooner, or later this side of madness, or the other .
    I AM A MARA!

    • @The-Cosmic-Hobo
      @The-Cosmic-Hobo 8 місяців тому

      Would be great to see Tegan again in such a story, too. And after all - we did have that Classic Box trailer... :)

    • @Adrianovaz2007
      @Adrianovaz2007 6 місяців тому

      And the Mara was indeed mentioned in the list of gods the Harbinger of Sutekh mentioned, so it could return!

  • @TheLegitAlpha
    @TheLegitAlpha 8 місяців тому +24

    Something I realize is the universe changed when the doctor invoked superstition in Wild Blue Yonder.

    • @cornparade6874
      @cornparade6874 8 місяців тому +8

      What made you realize that, was it the show drawing direct attention to it at least twice?

    • @onftbb
      @onftbb 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes this was explicitly called out in the show

    • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg
      @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@onftbband ironically, that could also be a misdirection.
      If you remember "Turn Left", the Doctor says that the Trickster's Brigades mess with peoples timelines and it normally just resolves itself - but with Donna, the Trickster forms whole new realities around her.
      Worth bearing in mind that when the Doctor spills salt, Donna is there too.

    • @HCC6507
      @HCC6507 6 місяців тому +2

      Well, the TARDIS groaned (the way it has been groaning assuming the groaning signifies anything evoking Sutekh) in WBY BEFORE he “invoked the superstition” … hmmmmmm 🧐🤔🤔
      Edit: also Susan Twist played a character who showed up before the salt thing (once again in WBY)

    • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg
      @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg 6 місяців тому +1

      @@HCC6507 exactly. The universe changing around Donna makes more sense.

  • @JohnMarston-rt5kr
    @JohnMarston-rt5kr 6 місяців тому +3

    Well this aged too well

  • @Jayforeman3047
    @Jayforeman3047 6 місяців тому

    I do wish that they had made a little bit of a bigger deal with the salt if it’s repercussions are so big.

  • @gerryh8367
    @gerryh8367 6 місяців тому +1

    The Beast and Sutekh have the same voice........

  • @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527
    @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527 6 місяців тому +1

    Really the Three I've always wanted to get sequels are the Great Vampires (State of Decay) the Molecular Energy Vampires (Image of Fendahl) and the Mandragora Helix (Mask of Mandragora)

  • @teamsonicchannel4400
    @teamsonicchannel4400 8 місяців тому +1

    could you do a top 20 or 30 theres so many more

  • @insanehiker5587
    @insanehiker5587 8 місяців тому +1

    My two guesses on The One Who Waits are the Valeyard or Omega.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 6 місяців тому

      Those two are on my list, along with Fenric and Sutekh.

  • @kelxena
    @kelxena 6 місяців тому +2

    Well you got your wish about suetekh

  • @DreamD0g
    @DreamD0g 6 місяців тому +3

    Look for the harbingers

  • @LinguaPhiliax
    @LinguaPhiliax 6 місяців тому

    What about the Mara? They were mentioned in the latest episode, but I would love to see them in the main show again.

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому +1

      This video came out 2 months before the series finale. I wouldn't have considered the Mara a God until that episode.

    • @LinguaPhiliax
      @LinguaPhiliax 6 місяців тому

      @@AidanGulaMedia They are still supernatural though. What would you have considered them?

  • @cameronmonaghan6883
    @cameronmonaghan6883 8 місяців тому

    I have wanted god villains to make a more prominent role in the franchise. And a teaser has stated bounty hunters are also going to be a part of series 14. Which are character types I wanted to see. Now (re)introduce some antiheros and bring back the spinoff characters in a crossover event against Sutekh or Omega and I will have had everything I wanted to see in the franchise since 2017.
    Aidan seems to be reading my mind.
    In terms of magic I'd love it if Wizards vs Aliens and the White Witch of Devil's End get involved in the future of the franchise. Maybe giving Poppy Hawthorne her own series and establishing individuals of species (Humans, Sycorax, Gallifreyans) can be capable of sorcery.

  • @haroldhgull1391
    @haroldhgull1391 8 місяців тому

    I think another good candidate would be Faction Paradox, they already have a cult following within the fandom and have very clearly supernatural themes with most of their technology being based on voodoo and witchcraft. Considering their hatred for Time Lords, large scale operations and lack of regard for temporal stability they would make a natural and dangerous villain for 15

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  8 місяців тому

      Faction Paradox is so niche, I deliberately didn't include it here! I know Sutekh has appeared in Faction Paradox audios but I'm not even going to begin to go there... Though having said that, Beep the Meep was an equally as obscure pull!

  • @elberno4243
    @elberno4243 8 місяців тому +1

    I believe Miss Merridue from Wide Blue Yonder, is Morgane. The one who waits!

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  8 місяців тому +1

      The Destroyer could definitely be the sneaky one on this list!

  • @lorrainebowe9585
    @lorrainebowe9585 5 місяців тому

    Well you got your wish The one who waits was Sutekh this must have been made before the latest series big reveal of who the main villain was going to be

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  5 місяців тому

      @@lorrainebowe9585 ua-cam.com/video/tJNn_0Tfeuc/v-deo.htmlsi=ly44RJ28_HKw4w4z

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges 6 місяців тому +3

    The writers Dared ......

  • @Jack-Oates
    @Jack-Oates 8 місяців тому

    Good video, but just some feedback, why was the video a top 10 list? These are usually used to rank things, so having them in chronological order seems contradictory to this. If you'd have made it a guide as the thumbnail says, the chronological style would have felt more natural.
    As i said great video, but you should have tried for either the guide format (as stated in the thumbnail) or the more ranked "I want to see this one the most because, this the 2nd most etc..." top ten format.
    Also just to add the thumbnail is beautiful.

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  8 місяців тому

      It's a top 10 because it's the 10 top supernatural threats that I think have the highest chance of returning. The order is for me to decide, so I decided to do it in chronological order. If I'd done a guide to all of the supernatural villains, it could have been several hours long. But I like my thumbnails to look slightly different to the title of the video so it's not just repeating itself

  • @gingergreeney
    @gingergreeney 7 місяців тому

    Didn't they alrady do a thanos with the flux killing half the universe?

  • @samsnozwell2402
    @samsnozwell2402 6 місяців тому

    I will like omega, morbius or the rani returned in RTD era

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому

      I wouldn't say any of those are supernatural villains though, just Time Lords...

  • @Spinoispog
    @Spinoispog 6 місяців тому

    What about Omega!?!?!

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому

      I didn't include him as, even though he could be said to reach Godlike status, his origins are as a Time Lord rather than a supernatural or unknown entity

  • @chaz007
    @chaz007 6 місяців тому +2

    well then

  • @Arnsteel634
    @Arnsteel634 3 місяці тому

    I’ll care once the writing gets good again

  • @cjayporter8170
    @cjayporter8170 6 місяців тому +2

    Bruh admit you are a time lord rn 👀👀👀

  • @daveofyorkshire301
    @daveofyorkshire301 6 місяців тому

    We saw Sutek die, bringing him back destroys canon...
    It's like bringing back Palpatine in Star Wars. When they're dead, they're dead... Try and develop an imagination and do something else...

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому

      We never saw him die. We only saw him get trapped in a space time tunnel. It was estimated that he would still live for thousands of years in the tunnel. Hence why he's been able to return in books, comics, audios, and now the TV show.

    • @daveofyorkshire301
      @daveofyorkshire301 6 місяців тому

      @@AidanGulaMedia No, we hear the doctor say "he lived for ..." X amount of time, meaning he died, otherwise how would he know how long he lived for? You can't quantify life before death.

    • @AidanGulaMedia
      @AidanGulaMedia  6 місяців тому

      @@daveofyorkshire301 It was an estimation not fact. Once Sutekh entered the time tunnel, there's no way of knowing what happened to him. So it's definitely possible that he could get out again.

    • @daveofyorkshire301
      @daveofyorkshire301 6 місяців тому

      @@AidanGulaMedia Watch the episode again, I'm not arguing interpretation.

  • @AOD_AnkGrooger
    @AOD_AnkGrooger 6 місяців тому

    Sutekh returned..
    Just a shame we have a lame doctor.

  • @Markcrazeer
    @Markcrazeer 2 місяці тому

    from what i understand the time vortex now contains sutek. somif i were chronos i would not be HAPPY ABOUT THAT!