From the DW's perspective this video is the reason why they would never make one. People will spend this much money on the hope to get one copy; and guess what.. Myst and others are still gonna keep playing this game $$$. They will never add pity and it's sad.
Nearly two years later and I still feel bad for you having to go through this. Thankfully though it won’t ever be this bad again. But that doesn’t mean the 330th guaranteed isn’t that much better.
for me no gacha should have pity, but sincerely calling people greedy just after they spend the price of their organs for just one character is kinda dumb.
@@ordine8142 That makes it inherently unfair for the majority of the playerbase since only a small minority are whales. If your game is fair F2P players may start spending from time to time but most importantly they will recommend the game to others which increases the chance of another whale playing the game. You generally want to keep both audiences happy if you want your game to prosper and GSSR is already unfair for F2P as is so adding another unfair mechanic will just make it worse
That's what happens when pity isn't a thing unfortunately. I can relate because I had a similar experience this summer. I spent a grand total of 1600 SQ on summer 3 & 4 banners (NA) and all I got out of it was a single copy of Merlin. I'm not joking, no non rate-up SSR either. Zip.nada. If I hadn't gotten Merlin I would have straight up quit the game ngl. So here I am; no Jarcher, no BB, no mUSAshi no nothing. Learnt my lesson this time around...
I had gone from december 31st of last year to a week into anniversary (JP), over 500 summons, without any 5 star servants at all. When I finally did get one on Koyanskaya's banner, it was a spook. Honestly I am just losing hope in this game, I love it but I might have to quit if summer goes poorly for me. I just can't keep going like this.
@@selfishpick437 I'm really sorry to hear that, this is awful. Truly hope your luck turns around in the next rolls. I plan to stick around for the story and because quite frankly I'm still too attached to this stupid game to let it go quite yet. Take care and remember that walking away from the game, at least for a while is always an option if it makes you feel miserable.
I spent EVERYTHING I had on Oberon today because he's my favorite character and of course I love him. 480 SQ and 30 tickets... Nothing. I'll roll again next week tho... But I'm so scared.
man, i rolled 210sq on musashi and didn't got her, only osakabehime np2. when you waste all your quartz and you don't get the servant you want, it is a reason to be totally pissed off for the whole day. an horrible feeling.
for real, wasted almost +300 sq from ani to get BB and got nothing, 17 sq from commemoration from mash and logins... got Merlin from a rainbow what the hell game.
@@dualia-s74m 300 for bbsummer, try 1200+ worst summer of my life, then i got archer artoria in 2 rolls last years, this game doesnt give you what you want only what it wants to give you
@@sdbzfan1 i used over 1400Sgd +400 freequartz on last year summer banner in na server to get summer jeanne 1 copy only..and also no other ssrs so in total i spent pass 2k quartz so yeah a pity system would really save lives
60 SQ got NP2 Jeanne archer/Ushi summer (which I both got last year) and a Jinako. Spent 100 euros for both Summer Melt and Summer Hime and I got a Musashi and Melt NP1 (along with a bunch of 4* like NP6 lolidusa and Emiya). I hate this game lol
@@madcuriosity502 By how much is the question I ask you. It's easy to state something as simple as wanting pity but what kind of pity system are you asking for. If you say something like 1000 SQ gives an SSR then you aren't really saving lives there since you are still asking people to spend money or save half of their SQ not rolling for any other banner that might have servants they want. And what if the servant I want is not the Ishtar/Gilgamesh on the banner but instead someone like Cas gil/Gorgon. does your pity system count those in or are they left out cuz they have a higher percentage and thus people should have more of them in theory. SR's are just as desirable as SSR's and if pity fails to factor those in, they simply become either completely forgotten servants or the new SSR's that people would hunt in the game for
I see this in my recommendation after talking with some players about how terrible it is that fgo doesn't have a pity system. This video was further proof why that statement is correct...
Im sorry Myst, i used this vid as catalyst now in NA and he appeared in 1 ticket. Your sacriface wont be forgotten, good luck in your Oberon NA journey.
Here I am, rewatching the Oberon -Disaster- Saga in celebration of NA getting the Pity System waaay early. Lasagna did this for you, Myst. No one can convince me otherwise.
You had me rolling at “5 star servants are a myth” hahahaha This hurts a lot but you’ve got the best salt-y remarks ever, well anyway back to the salt mine for me as well
After seeing this I've decided I'm gonna stop spending money on this game outside of GSSR. I like FGO a lot, but I can't keep supporting it if it means I have experiences like this to look forward to.
I love him to bits and the fact that he's a fairy is a huge bonus for me personally So far spent all my free sq from doing lostbelts and a few free quests I really want him so badly but it seems like he wants nothing to do with me qwq Didn't even get any of the fairy Knights either just min rolls
Well to be fair, in a lot of the bond conversations he actually hates us too. So us summoning him is basically torturing him to hell. So the gacha's being poetic for once
I spent 4 packs on him, on top of 240 free quartz I had left after Koyan's banner. This is the most I've thrown at a banner since Nero Bride in 2019 (where I wasted 6 packs and didn't get her). This was painful. I got 5 (FIVE) min-rolls in a row. I got spooked by Europa and Nightingale, I NP10 Fairy Gawain after not getting a single copy of her during Morgan's banner, I also got NP5 FK Tristan. This was kind of expected, since I got super lucky during Anni and Lolilot's banner, but goddamn, this broke my spirit.
“No matter how much you spend on a banner, you are not guaranteed anything at all.” Unless you’re playing an actual good game that doesn’t take its players for granted.
It feels so nice that we get to use 1 paid SQ to roll 1 per day instead of you know, an actual pity system like literally EVERY OTHER gacha game has! There really shouldn't be any reason someone can spend some much money and NOT get a rate up servant.
You mean like every other gacha game where you need to have the equivalent of NP5 for your servant to be useful and they get power crept like every time?
@@kronusx3484 I don't know how you can defend FGO having no pity system just because there are other games that are worse at managing their powercreep. It's like saying that it's okay for a game developer to shit on their playerbase just because other developers do the same. I'm going to give you two examples of games with a pity system where you only need one copy of an unit for that unit to be useful and there is not a lot of powercreep, Epic Seven and Arknights. And I only know those two because they're the only ones I play at the time, and FGO obviously. Also, there's is no valid reason for a game to not have a pity system other than to milk more money from the players, and if you think that doing that is okay then there is nothing more that I can say to you
@@kronusx3484 Almost all servants in FGO benefit from having more NP levels, but that isn't what I am talking about because you have to be lucky enough or spend enough to even get a servant in FGO. I know two really good friends who have used thousands of SQ. One on merlin and the other on quetz. One spent 2200 SQ on merlin and only got 1 COPY! The other has spent 2100 on quetz and still hasn't got her. How is that at all fair or consumer friendly?? I only play one other gacha, azur lane. IMO it has a really nice system for enhancement of your ships, even going as far as having boulins which you can use in place of extra copies to limit break ships. Then there is FGO. Where once per day you can give them more money to roll for ONE servant/CE where you are more likely to get struck by lightning then to get any currently on rate up servant. If it weren't for the fact I like fate lore and my account, I wouldn't be playing FGO.
@@KillaManReaper2 FGO is purely PVE. not a mix of PVP and PVE like most gacha games. You can absolutely run content without ever using a single SSR/SR servant and not worry about servants being power crept due to not being able to do as much damage as the latest servant you want. You only whale because you love the characters not because you are trying to compete with everyone else in the world. Also while I understand the appeal of Pity, Pity wouldn't magically solve every single gacha game nor make the pain less. Pity's just COPIUM the system. You get the thing you want but ask yourself this. Do you really feel happy getting what you are looking for? Sure, maybe you do. But what happens when Pity fails and just gives you another copy of the same SSR you have been looking for. I argue that's even worse than no SSR at the end of the day cuz you basically got nothing but a pity consolation prize. not the actual servant you want.
Imo one of the most generous gacha game is Dragalia Lost. First, you regularly get enough to do a 10 rolls and the ssr drop rate starts at 4% and increases by 0.50% every 10 rolls and if you are not lucky the pity system allows you to CHOOSE one of the ssr in rate up after 200 rolls. Then comes the biggest positive of the game: there is no need for duplicates to strengthen a character. Once you get him/her you just need to have the necessary materials to level up your level and skills. In short, the only difference in this game between f2p and whales is the number of trials possible to obtain the desired ssr. The rest depends on how much time you spend farming the items needed to craft end-game gears. Conclusion: this is probably not the best gacha game on the market but at least it has the merit of having a system that is healthier than the others. And by the way, the ost is really good for those who appreciate anime songs.
For realz..I've save a T O N of tickets and quarts and when i realized I'd started to chase Carmela from NA Las Vegas, I had to stop or else I'll lose everything n possibly walk out with only spooks
@@bigrazo5098 hope you didn't use too many quarts for that. I'm up 1k plus for space Ishtar so I hope to at least get np 2 for the first banner to loop.
thats why im 100% f2p not even rolling gssr banners. and every time i have some quartz or tickets i use them on a banner that has some servants i want. that way im happy if i get something without feeling like shit if i dont cause im not rolling hundrets of quartz ive saved up over months.
@@uteriel282 I'm mostly f2p only doing like 4 or 5 gssr but funny enough my f2p rolls are better so it's hardly worth using more money than that. I was probably most happy getting ereshkigal and saving for space Ishtar now. Jp wise only like 2 or 3 sevants in 2 years I actually like so it's more easy to skip banners as later units aren't as good or interesting as a whole
@@ivanbluecool my rolls get me either nothing or they are godly. started na in 2018 and got close to 20 ssr servants and 50 sr servants now each with less than 150 quartz per banner. started jp last november and got 10 ssr servants and 20 sr servants now also each within 150 quartz or less per banner. last ones i got were merlin in na with 33 quartz and koyanskaya in jp with 8 tickets.
About 1200.. It took me 1400 to NP1 Vitch, so just throw another 200 at him. Lol I used 500 for this banner just to get Tristan and Gawain, but ended up with a Fionn and Carmilla spook. So JP has given me the biggest middle finger as of late.
Damn that's some Megalodon size F. Hope you get better luck in your next banners, I did well in both vich and Oberon but no need to rub salt in the wound :c
I got vitch in my 14th ticket, and rolled for 120 quartz + 10 tix for fairy tristan, don't feel bad cuz before this, I spent 400+ on bb in na and got nothing, you always get a period where your luck won't betray you
Ya know, the easiest fix to the no pity issue, even if it's still not what we want, is to simply turn the weekly master missions into dailies. They can keep the same amount of fragments to 21 and have players get 25 quarts a week instead of 7 and by the end of the month they can have 100 quartz and 4 tickets, as opposed to what we have now where it's only 28 quartz. It essentially just throwing quartz at the problem, which is what they do with the anniversary and extra missions anyway, but it would give players a chance to realistically save for banners and even recover from bad rolling sessions between banners. I'm confused as to why more people don't suggest this and opt for a complete rework of the gacha system which has been ignored by the developers for so long. You can still get screwed over since there no pity, but it would give people more opportunities to roll for free before sacrificing their wallets.
@@hungerxhunger2548, you're just used to the miniscule amount of sq this game gives. 15-20 quartz per week should be the bare minimum for players that consistently play the game. Especially in fgo where the pity is 900 sq, literally name another gacha game that only gives 2 pulls per week AND has a horrible pity system, even genshin gacha is better than fgo's.
Oh yeah, this reminds me of that one time I did like 150 rolls for Super Orion and didn't get a single gold servant. A smarter person would have stopped way earlier... I did not. From then on I set myself a rule to never go over 100 rolls on any banner. This way I can keep my sanity even if I might not always get everyone I want. The ONLY servant I'm willing to break that rule for is Castoria when she comes to NA next year.
Good luck to you, my friend. For me, meta casters arent a priority for me. I wanna roll for ASMR sherlock next year. I already got him but i want him to be at least np2 for husbando reasons.
@@sherlockoberon_akomi9781 Good luck to you with that, but I'll be honest, while he is great for harder content (especially in arts teams, but not only), his 2nd NP is not very good, as it only adds 10% reduced defense for the enemies. If his 2nd NP was like say Van Gogh's, and increased crit strength from 50% to 75% (for Sherlock it's tied to overcharge, which is great because it makes it easier to use), then I would say go for it, but as it stands, especially if you are F2P, I would save those quartz. And I'm not saying save the Quartz for a meta caster, you can grab another husbando, someone that works quite well with Sherlock, someone like Super Orion. Or save for Muramasa, he is amazing, even if you don't have your very own Castoria. But also, at the end of the day it's your quartz so you can do whatever you want with it, so don't let anything I said here (or anyone else) stop you from going for your targets. If you like Sherlock that much, go get that NP2.
@@Ebosan87 thank you. Though, i agree that his np kinda needs some improvement. Heck, i even made a fan made buff for his np lmao. -New effect for his np is gain stars (20 stars if its np 1.) (40 stars if its np 5) -And buffed his aoe crit up effect from 50% to 100% crit. (200% if the overcharge is 500%)
I got him, another copy of fae gawain and a kaleidoscope with 90 sq. I fear the day I'm going to get destroyed by a banner, because it's definitely coming...
After watching this I'm even more convinced that I'm just gonna skip everything after Gilgamesh to save for Niece Castoria and Oberon, even though I love many servants that will come in between. I just loved Oberon too much from day 1 (probably one of the few that loved his first design right away from when he was announced). I would have liked to get at least Caenis for Kirshtaria, but seeing how I failed to get Luvia, summer Ushi and Asclepius(got Reines, Jarcher and Junao) I'm probably gonna give up on that as well
If I'm lucky I'll try to get Koyanskaya after Oberon NP1 and if possible more copies of Oberon right after that, maybe I'll give up on more copies if they release either Solomon(Romani) or Kirshtaria in some kind of way
Saem bro. I dont want to trust everything on my luck anymore knowing my luck is shit. We just need to be prepared. 600 f2p sq on da vinky btw no SSR or SR btw
the most important to know is that you should save for the servants you want. a lot of people ask for pity in a game like FGO without thinking about the fact that FGO's a mainly PVE game/waifu simulator. the game doesn't have a PVP element to it and even if it did it wouldn't be as crazy as other gacha games. So it's a lot easier to save for the servants you want compared to other gacha games.
This video should be a reminder that at the end of the game, what we play is a GACHA game based on Gashapon, a concept rooted in sucking up your money, with pity system or not. Be careful with how much money you spend. Your wellbeing is more important than fictional tiddies.
I can't believe that DW said that"Wanting a pity system is greed" They are not only refusing to respect our money but also they are insulting us. I wonder if they even play there own game and one of them got into a gacha disaster. Maybe FGO is trully about love like they say because if not then we wouldn't be staying for this shit
Came here to feel good about myself. Spent 660 sqs on Bersertoria banner with no ssr at all. Not to mention the 500+ sqs I spent on prior Malter and Tonelico banners and also got not a single ssr. Words cannot describe how I am feeling right now. I am running out of apples from farming all the story, free quests, interludes, rank ups, advanced quests, ascending my servants. All the stuff I can do to get sqs, I have done. Something is broken and I don’t know if it’s me or the game. Help.
fun fact if you guys haven't already noticed lol, you can predict if you are gonna get a servant or a CE while summoning, take a close look at the summoning animation before the card is revealed, specifically the rings of light. If there are three rings, it'll be a servant (EX: 5:13), while a CE will only have one ring (EX: 5:03 ). hope this was helpful lol
I... I... nice tip. But, ahaha, I'm sorry, it's just that I think everyone knew this since day one at this point lol Sorry, I needed to laugh after failing to get Oberon
@@mr.fantasticwonder8765 it's ok. Tbh, I mentioned that everyone noticed it mostly due to the fact that.. if you want a servant but see the CE animation instead... it can be instant salt 🤣🤣🤣 that stuff stays with ya since day one lmao (but mostly talking about myself lol, the salt is real 😂😂)
At this point the USO system shouldnt legally get them past the gambling law. They should probably be investigated... this and many other videos are proof that it does nothing
ay man I chastised you in the past but we all out here just wanting to get who we want and if you can get chances from generous people to keep on rolling I say go on cruising my dude and best of luck to future banners.
When it's proven that the desire sensor is real, and it looks like the game developers don't care about making the game give more back to players for their money... that's when gacha, like any form of gambling, needs to be handled responsibly. The lack of a pity system and the low rates are why even high level whales need to set financial limits for themselves so they don't bankrupt themselves, to know when to accept a loss, to say "Okay, I'm spending way too much now for a png, I need to give up on the character for now and hope for another rateup down the line." I've had two Servants I reached that point with myself, where if I didn't get them on the last bit of SQ I could afford, I would have had to give up. Money does not change luck in this gacha, so you shouldn't try to push it if your luck is dried out. Myst was smart at 3:28 for seeing that his luck was dry and should have stopped rolling, so shame on the Twitch chat, especially the Cheerers and donors, for pushing him to more after that point. I know you want to please your audience for content, but at the same time they should be willing to understand when the streamer needs to stop rolling (a lot sooner than this chat did), that their donations/cheers can be used toward the next new Servants (Summer 6 should be announced soon, right?).
i was thinking maybe the Judge who decides that USO system was all it takes for DW to evade Gambling Law either needs to play this game personally or see a compilation of the horrid rolls, the descent of it's streamer to sunk-cost-falalcy and ask himself was USO system really liable.
Sometimes gacha fucks you royally and nothing to be done about it - i am still mad about my godjuna summons where i barely got 1 copy of him and 1 copy of Asvvathaman in 1400+ sq,it also left me broke for a while(
I got him with 90 quartz and 5 tickets, he showed up with my last ticket. Now I see this and I really feel bad about the people who spend so much money in fgo without even having a pity system. When I wanted Percival, he came with 300 quartz, like bruh, can it be more difficult getting a 4* than a 5*? Really? Man Someday we'll get a pity system, hopefully
Bruh people crying in the comment section about the game not having a pity system while spending dogsht amount of money to get one ssr. Speak with you actions not words but in this game generally the people who speak are salty or f2p players cuz the whales of the fgo community doesnt have any way of expressing themselves it seems. They just keep spending and spending without raising their heads and look around to see whats going on in general. Like this guy
Oh man! This is really bad ... Not even Anastasia did spook you... My worst was the Summer Abby banner. I sunk quartz after quartz and I only got a 4 star and I saw enough CEs for the rest of my life... Recently, my JP luck seems to be awesome: 5 tix + 1 multi: Koyan... 5 tix + 1 multi: Oberon...
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the reason pity timer is an endless dream. They get more money this way That's pretty sad to be completely honest. I wish you better luck on future banners
I summoned as I was watching the video, then stood up to pick the phone and I came back to a Pretender Class card... Leaving the game gives luck I guess
Well, I still don't spend my own money besides GSSRs so that's still pretty much true. I'm not gonna say no if some nice and generous viewers wanna help out.
@@MystFGO I think in that situation what you do is spend it on your NA account. Spending money, anyone's money, on JP sends the message to DW that it's okay to never implement a pity system. If their wallet on the JP side gets hurt a bit, then they might bite the bullet just to keep people rolling. On NA it's different. I whale on that simply to keep them from dropping the game altogether like what was done to Magia Record.
I feel u (not too much Bc i spended so much but i got him ) , don't let at the game to ruin your days , bc i know sometimes Is so damn painful , gl if u wanna pull more
Oberon truly living up to his class name, pretending to be in the gacha
Underrated comment lol 😆
Oooff critical hit right there
I love your videos and that comment hit the weak spot 🤣🤣🤣
This is gold EX humor
Proof that we really need a pity just keeps increasing
Question is will DW make it a Decent Pity system or horrible one like USO
@@lerickboor4702 knowing DW it will be horrible.
From the DW's perspective this video is the reason why they would never make one. People will spend this much money on the hope to get one copy; and guess what.. Myst and others are still gonna keep playing this game $$$. They will never add pity and it's sad.
Well we have the Paid Daily Disappointment Button now so there's that too
@@fung8712 better late than never. it desperately needs one.
whenever a new banner comes, it's either plushie getting worst luck EX or Myst.
Whenever it's a banner that I really like I always get screwed... (Himiko, Caren, Vitch, Oberon)
@@MystFGO do you forgot the banner of mhxx? Kkkkkkk
Same i really like Dioscuri i got shit then Loli Snake then Douman(i got douman in the end tho i betted all my year luck)
@@MystFGO Well luckily for you summer is coming up in JP and we all inow how much summer servants love you
And then there's XNaya with his unlimited budget
It's ok Myst. "
Pretender is faker, Oberon is Eternal."
In the words of Famitsu, we are 'greedy' for wanting to avoid situations like this.
I was just thinking "Look at all this GREED here, expecting a 5-star after over a thousand quartz."
@@rancorrage5646 Yeah man he just put like 400 bucks into the game and didn't get the SSR he wanted. so greedy
Who is famitsu?
Yeah, surely *we're* the greedy ones for wanting a game worth a billion dollars to, at the very least, add a pity system.
@@blackrabbit8397 A very famous japanese magazine about videogames
Nearly two years later and I still feel bad for you having to go through this. Thankfully though it won’t ever be this bad again. But that doesn’t mean the 330th guaranteed isn’t that much better.
The fact this game has near to none form of pity in 6 years is baffling.
HEY! don't be greedy pls
But don't forget that Famitsu called the people who asked for pity systems in surveys "greedy".
for me no gacha should have pity, but sincerely calling people greedy just after they spend the price of their organs for just one character is kinda dumb.
@@Cra-b i suggest paid pity for the paid sq cus why not ??
@@ordine8142 That makes it inherently unfair for the majority of the playerbase since only a small minority are whales. If your game is fair F2P players may start spending from time to time but most importantly they will recommend the game to others which increases the chance of another whale playing the game. You generally want to keep both audiences happy if you want your game to prosper and GSSR is already unfair for F2P as is so adding another unfair mechanic will just make it worse
The greatest trick Oberon ever pulled was convincing us he was in the gacha
That's what happens when pity isn't a thing unfortunately. I can relate because I had a similar experience this summer.
I spent a grand total of 1600 SQ on summer 3 & 4 banners (NA) and all I got out of it was a single copy of Merlin. I'm not joking, no non rate-up SSR either. Zip.nada.
If I hadn't gotten Merlin I would have straight up quit the game ngl. So here I am; no Jarcher, no BB, no mUSAshi no nothing. Learnt my lesson this time around...
I had gone from december 31st of last year to a week into anniversary (JP), over 500 summons, without any 5 star servants at all. When I finally did get one on Koyanskaya's banner, it was a spook. Honestly I am just losing hope in this game, I love it but I might have to quit if summer goes poorly for me. I just can't keep going like this.
@@selfishpick437 I'm really sorry to hear that, this is awful. Truly hope your luck turns around in the next rolls.
I plan to stick around for the story and because quite frankly I'm still too attached to this stupid game to let it go quite yet.
Take care and remember that walking away from the game, at least for a while is always an option if it makes you feel miserable.
i spent 180 free sq i had saved up for merlin, and didnt even get a gold servant
I spent EVERYTHING I had on Oberon today because he's my favorite character and of course I love him.
480 SQ and 30 tickets...
Nothing.
I'll roll again next week tho...
But I'm so scared.
man, i rolled 210sq on musashi and didn't got her, only osakabehime np2. when you waste all your quartz and you don't get the servant you want, it is a reason to be totally pissed off for the whole day. an horrible feeling.
Videos like this is what makes not save for servants. If the game doesn't want you to get a servant you ain't getting him
for real, wasted almost +300 sq from ani to get BB and got nothing, 17 sq from commemoration from mash and logins... got Merlin from a rainbow what the hell game.
@@dualia-s74m 300 for bbsummer, try 1200+ worst summer of my life, then i got archer artoria in 2 rolls last years, this game doesnt give you what you want only what it wants to give you
@@sdbzfan1 i used over 1400Sgd +400 freequartz on last year summer banner in na server to get summer jeanne 1 copy only..and also no other ssrs so in total i spent pass 2k quartz so yeah a pity system would really save lives
60 SQ got NP2 Jeanne archer/Ushi summer (which I both got last year) and a Jinako.
Spent 100 euros for both Summer Melt and Summer Hime and I got a Musashi and Melt NP1 (along with a bunch of 4* like NP6 lolidusa and Emiya).
I hate this game lol
@@madcuriosity502 By how much is the question I ask you. It's easy to state something as simple as wanting pity but what kind of pity system are you asking for. If you say something like 1000 SQ gives an SSR then you aren't really saving lives there since you are still asking people to spend money or save half of their SQ not rolling for any other banner that might have servants they want.
And what if the servant I want is not the Ishtar/Gilgamesh on the banner but instead someone like Cas gil/Gorgon. does your pity system count those in or are they left out cuz they have a higher percentage and thus people should have more of them in theory. SR's are just as desirable as SSR's and if pity fails to factor those in, they simply become either completely forgotten servants or the new SSR's that people would hunt in the game for
Worst case scenario this banner will just be like arjuna alter, meaning he wont have a rerun in a LONG time
I see this in my recommendation after talking with some players about how terrible it is that fgo doesn't have a pity system.
This video was further proof why that statement is correct...
11 rolls 'pity'
I was literally just thinking how you’ve been good so far
Im sorry Myst, i used this vid as catalyst now in NA and he appeared in 1 ticket. Your sacriface wont be forgotten, good luck in your Oberon NA journey.
Saw him rolling on livestream. I wanted to cry. Poor guy
Here I am, rewatching the Oberon -Disaster- Saga in celebration of NA getting the Pity System waaay early.
Lasagna did this for you, Myst. No one can convince me otherwise.
You had me rolling at “5 star servants are a myth” hahahaha
This hurts a lot but you’ve got the best salt-y remarks ever, well anyway back to the salt mine for me as well
After seeing this I've decided I'm gonna stop spending money on this game outside of GSSR. I like FGO a lot, but I can't keep supporting it if it means I have experiences like this to look forward to.
I love him to bits and the fact that he's a fairy is a huge bonus for me personally
So far spent all my free sq from doing lostbelts and a few free quests
I really want him so badly but it seems like he wants nothing to do with me qwq
Didn't even get any of the fairy Knights either just min rolls
Well to be fair, in a lot of the bond conversations he actually hates us too. So us summoning him is basically torturing him to hell. So the gacha's being poetic for once
I spent 4 packs on him, on top of 240 free quartz I had left after Koyan's banner. This is the most I've thrown at a banner since Nero Bride in 2019 (where I wasted 6 packs and didn't get her).
This was painful. I got 5 (FIVE) min-rolls in a row. I got spooked by Europa and Nightingale, I NP10 Fairy Gawain after not getting a single copy of her during Morgan's banner, I also got NP5 FK Tristan.
This was kind of expected, since I got super lucky during Anni and Lolilot's banner, but goddamn, this broke my spirit.
Let us all remember the sacrifice ari took for himself, sadly, for naught.
“No matter how much you spend on a banner, you are not guaranteed anything at all.”
Unless you’re playing an actual good game that doesn’t take its players for granted.
was just looking to see if you had posted your oberon rolls, insane timing!
It feels so nice that we get to use 1 paid SQ to roll 1 per day instead of you know, an actual pity system like literally EVERY OTHER gacha game has!
There really shouldn't be any reason someone can spend some much money and NOT get a rate up servant.
You mean like every other gacha game where you need to have the equivalent of NP5 for your servant to be useful and they get power crept like every time?
@@kronusx3484 I don't know how you can defend FGO having no pity system just because there are other games that are worse at managing their powercreep. It's like saying that it's okay for a game developer to shit on their playerbase just because other developers do the same. I'm going to give you two examples of games with a pity system where you only need one copy of an unit for that unit to be useful and there is not a lot of powercreep, Epic Seven and Arknights. And I only know those two because they're the only ones I play at the time, and FGO obviously. Also, there's is no valid reason for a game to not have a pity system other than to milk more money from the players, and if you think that doing that is okay then there is nothing more that I can say to you
@@kronusx3484 Almost all servants in FGO benefit from having more NP levels, but that isn't what I am talking about because you have to be lucky enough or spend enough to even get a servant in FGO. I know two really good friends who have used thousands of SQ. One on merlin and the other on quetz. One spent 2200 SQ on merlin and only got 1 COPY! The other has spent 2100 on quetz and still hasn't got her. How is that at all fair or consumer friendly??
I only play one other gacha, azur lane. IMO it has a really nice system for enhancement of your ships, even going as far as having boulins which you can use in place of extra copies to limit break ships.
Then there is FGO. Where once per day you can give them more money to roll for ONE servant/CE where you are more likely to get struck by lightning then to get any currently on rate up servant. If it weren't for the fact I like fate lore and my account, I wouldn't be playing FGO.
@@KillaManReaper2
FGO is purely PVE. not a mix of PVP and PVE like most gacha games. You can absolutely run content without ever using a single SSR/SR servant and not worry about servants being power crept due to not being able to do as much damage as the latest servant you want. You only whale because you love the characters not because you are trying to compete with everyone else in the world.
Also while I understand the appeal of Pity, Pity wouldn't magically solve every single gacha game nor make the pain less. Pity's just COPIUM the system. You get the thing you want but ask yourself this. Do you really feel happy getting what you are looking for? Sure, maybe you do. But what happens when Pity fails and just gives you another copy of the same SSR you have been looking for. I argue that's even worse than no SSR at the end of the day cuz you basically got nothing but a pity consolation prize. not the actual servant you want.
Imo one of the most generous gacha game is Dragalia Lost. First, you regularly get enough to do a 10 rolls and the ssr drop rate starts at 4% and increases by 0.50% every 10 rolls and if you are not lucky the pity system allows you to CHOOSE one of the ssr in rate up after 200 rolls.
Then comes the biggest positive of the game: there is no need for duplicates to strengthen a character. Once you get him/her you just need to have the necessary materials to level up your level and skills.
In short, the only difference in this game between f2p and whales is the number of trials possible to obtain the desired ssr. The rest depends on how much time you spend farming the items needed to craft end-game gears.
Conclusion: this is probably not the best gacha game on the market but at least it has the merit of having a system that is healthier than the others.
And by the way, the ost is really good for those who appreciate anime songs.
Everyone has their bad rolling days. Mine was 2 days ago when I didn't get a single Lancer Melt from solo rate up in 1050 SQ
Ok how many bunny tho
shit dude that's rough, for real
@@thereddeads 2
@@LuckyPon3 oof my man
@@thereddeads Indeed, especially cause I don't even like bunny
I never like to see people fail or use so much quarts. Even me saving on na I'm sure I'm gonna have to be lucky.
For realz..I've save a T O N of tickets and quarts and when i realized I'd started to chase Carmela from NA Las Vegas, I had to stop or else I'll lose everything n possibly walk out with only spooks
@@bigrazo5098 hope you didn't use too many quarts for that.
I'm up 1k plus for space Ishtar so I hope to at least get np 2 for the first banner to loop.
thats why im 100% f2p not even rolling gssr banners.
and every time i have some quartz or tickets i use them on a banner that has some servants i want.
that way im happy if i get something without feeling like shit if i dont cause im not rolling hundrets of quartz ive saved up over months.
@@uteriel282 I'm mostly f2p only doing like 4 or 5 gssr but funny enough my f2p rolls are better so it's hardly worth using more money than that.
I was probably most happy getting ereshkigal and saving for space Ishtar now. Jp wise only like 2 or 3 sevants in 2 years I actually like so it's more easy to skip banners as later units aren't as good or interesting as a whole
@@ivanbluecool
my rolls get me either nothing or they are godly.
started na in 2018 and got close to 20 ssr servants and 50 sr servants now each with less than 150 quartz per banner.
started jp last november and got 10 ssr servants and 20 sr servants now also each within 150 quartz or less per banner.
last ones i got were merlin in na with 33 quartz and koyanskaya in jp with 8 tickets.
About 1200.. It took me 1400 to NP1 Vitch, so just throw another 200 at him. Lol I used 500 for this banner just to get Tristan and Gawain, but ended up with a Fionn and Carmilla spook. So JP has given me the biggest middle finger as of late.
I got vitch with 30 sq... Sorry
850 sq no spooks or 4 star servant at this point did a single got gold assassin. Got Oskabehime.
Damn that's some Megalodon size F.
Hope you get better luck in your next banners, I did well in both vich and Oberon but no need to rub salt in the wound :c
I got vitch in my 14th ticket, and rolled for 120 quartz + 10 tix for fairy tristan, don't feel bad cuz before this, I spent 400+ on bb in na and got nothing, you always get a period where your luck won't betray you
I got spooked by Tamamo again on this, and on summer Kama’s banner.
Luckily, i did manage to get summer Kama.
this is why i dont even bother saving quartz, everytime i do, i get nothing. this game has the worst gacha by far
Deadass all 5 banners I've been saving up for after 4th anniversary last year got me none of the SSRs I was saving for.
No pity as well.
@@Kagetora- wdym, ofc there is a pity system, just get the same 5 star servant 15 times to get 1 for free :)
@@toastyspaghetti4839 That's just whale currency.
Atleast it isn't battle cats with it's multis basically put behind a 70$ paywall per multi
watching this live is so hard, i scream in my heart telling myst to stop, but it's ok there's always next banner. hope you get lucky on summer banner!
Ya know, the easiest fix to the no pity issue, even if it's still not what we want, is to simply turn the weekly master missions into dailies. They can keep the same amount of fragments to 21 and have players get 25 quarts a week instead of 7 and by the end of the month they can have 100 quartz and 4 tickets, as opposed to what we have now where it's only 28 quartz. It essentially just throwing quartz at the problem, which is what they do with the anniversary and extra missions anyway, but it would give players a chance to realistically save for banners and even recover from bad rolling sessions between banners. I'm confused as to why more people don't suggest this and opt for a complete rework of the gacha system which has been ignored by the developers for so long. You can still get screwed over since there no pity, but it would give people more opportunities to roll for free before sacrificing their wallets.
What are you saying that's to free...
@@hungerxhunger2548, you're just used to the miniscule amount of sq this game gives. 15-20 quartz per week should be the bare minimum for players that consistently play the game.
Especially in fgo where the pity is 900 sq, literally name another gacha game that only gives 2 pulls per week AND has a horrible pity system, even genshin gacha is better than fgo's.
Again, you're the reason why we still have FGO in N.A. Thank you!
Oh yeah, this reminds me of that one time I did like 150 rolls for Super Orion and didn't get a single gold servant. A smarter person would have stopped way earlier... I did not. From then on I set myself a rule to never go over 100 rolls on any banner. This way I can keep my sanity even if I might not always get everyone I want. The ONLY servant I'm willing to break that rule for is Castoria when she comes to NA next year.
Good luck to you, my friend. For me, meta casters arent a priority for me. I wanna roll for ASMR sherlock next year. I already got him but i want him to be at least np2 for husbando reasons.
@@sherlockoberon_akomi9781 Good luck to you with that, but I'll be honest, while he is great for harder content (especially in arts teams, but not only), his 2nd NP is not very good, as it only adds 10% reduced defense for the enemies.
If his 2nd NP was like say Van Gogh's, and increased crit strength from 50% to 75% (for Sherlock it's tied to overcharge, which is great because it makes it easier to use), then I would say go for it, but as it stands, especially if you are F2P, I would save those quartz. And I'm not saying save the Quartz for a meta caster, you can grab another husbando, someone that works quite well with Sherlock, someone like Super Orion. Or save for Muramasa, he is amazing, even if you don't have your very own Castoria.
But also, at the end of the day it's your quartz so you can do whatever you want with it, so don't let anything I said here (or anyone else) stop you from going for your targets. If you like Sherlock that much, go get that NP2.
@@Ebosan87 thank you. Though, i agree that his np kinda needs some improvement. Heck, i even made a fan made buff for his np lmao.
-New effect for his np is gain stars
(20 stars if its np 1.) (40 stars if its np 5)
-And buffed his aoe crit up effect from 50% to 100% crit. (200% if the overcharge is 500%)
I got him, another copy of fae gawain and a kaleidoscope with 90 sq. I fear the day I'm going to get destroyed by a banner, because it's definitely coming...
Already 2 years, this video make me feel my luck not really bad
Sees title *trips over furniture to press play*
After watching this I'm even more convinced that I'm just gonna skip everything after Gilgamesh to save for Niece Castoria and Oberon, even though I love many servants that will come in between. I just loved Oberon too much from day 1 (probably one of the few that loved his first design right away from when he was announced). I would have liked to get at least Caenis for Kirshtaria, but seeing how I failed to get Luvia, summer Ushi and Asclepius(got Reines, Jarcher and Junao) I'm probably gonna give up on that as well
If I'm lucky I'll try to get Koyanskaya after Oberon NP1 and if possible more copies of Oberon right after that, maybe I'll give up on more copies if they release either Solomon(Romani) or Kirshtaria in some kind of way
Saem bro. I dont want to trust everything on my luck anymore knowing my luck is shit. We just need to be prepared. 600 f2p sq on da vinky btw no SSR or SR btw
After castoria im going to save another year for tamavitch then thats it. Maybe muramasa in between of them
the most important to know is that you should save for the servants you want. a lot of people ask for pity in a game like FGO without thinking about the fact that FGO's a mainly PVE game/waifu simulator. the game doesn't have a PVP element to it and even if it did it wouldn't be as crazy as other gacha games. So it's a lot easier to save for the servants you want compared to other gacha games.
This video should be a reminder that at the end of the game, what we play is a GACHA game based on Gashapon, a concept rooted in sucking up your money, with pity system or not. Be careful with how much money you spend. Your wellbeing is more important than fictional tiddies.
This is so sad. I guess that's why the tristan rate up was so good. I'll help myself out..
I can't, I can't rewatch this ngl💔
I can't believe that DW said that"Wanting a pity system is greed"
They are not only refusing to respect our money but also they are insulting us.
I wonder if they even play there own game and one of them got into a gacha disaster.
Maybe FGO is trully about love like they say because if not then we wouldn't be staying for this shit
DW never said that though. It was Famitsu.
I doubt they’d play their own game it’s like putting your nuts in testicular mousetrap you helped build, they know what’s gonna happen
Damn. No wonder they gave us the pity. This is absolute pain.
Myst after using all his luck in Summer NA be like:
UA-cam really wants me to rewatch this…
basically me during the kama rolls, execpt for alot less 4*s
Watching this again really gave me fear for the upcoming banner
Remember, we have pity while JP back then did not
Came here to feel good about myself. Spent 660 sqs on Bersertoria banner with no ssr at all. Not to mention the 500+ sqs I spent on prior Malter and Tonelico banners and also got not a single ssr. Words cannot describe how I am feeling right now. I am running out of apples from farming all the story, free quests, interludes, rank ups, advanced quests, ascending my servants. All the stuff I can do to get sqs, I have done. Something is broken and I don’t know if it’s me or the game. Help.
We need pity not coin
Take comfort in knowing that your not the only one who took financial slaps with Oberon…….and I didn’t even get him
Sometimes I forget what kind of hell I got out when quiting fgo and regret quiting. Thanks for reminding.
So this is where Plushie's bad luck went to for rolling for Oberon.
Myst.. I hope your luck will turn around. Thank you for all these contents you gave us!
fun fact if you guys haven't already noticed lol, you can predict if you are gonna get a servant or a CE while summoning, take a close look at the summoning animation before the card is revealed, specifically the rings of light. If there are three rings, it'll be a servant (EX: 5:13), while a CE will only have one ring (EX: 5:03 ).
hope this was helpful lol
I... I... nice tip. But, ahaha, I'm sorry, it's just that I think everyone knew this since day one at this point lol
Sorry, I needed to laugh after failing to get Oberon
@@CherryBlossom-yn7oq 🤣🤣🤣, im so sorry. I never knew that. I just noticed cause I'm an animation student n thought it was a fun fact lol
@@mr.fantasticwonder8765 it's ok. Tbh, I mentioned that everyone noticed it mostly due to the fact that.. if you want a servant but see the CE animation instead... it can be instant salt 🤣🤣🤣 that stuff stays with ya since day one lmao (but mostly talking about myself lol, the salt is real 😂😂)
At this point the USO system shouldnt legally get them past the gambling law. They should probably be investigated... this and many other videos are proof that it does nothing
ay man I chastised you in the past but we all out here just wanting to get who we want and if you can get chances from generous people to keep on rolling I say go on cruising my dude and best of luck to future banners.
When it's proven that the desire sensor is real, and it looks like the game developers don't care about making the game give more back to players for their money... that's when gacha, like any form of gambling, needs to be handled responsibly. The lack of a pity system and the low rates are why even high level whales need to set financial limits for themselves so they don't bankrupt themselves, to know when to accept a loss, to say "Okay, I'm spending way too much now for a png, I need to give up on the character for now and hope for another rateup down the line." I've had two Servants I reached that point with myself, where if I didn't get them on the last bit of SQ I could afford, I would have had to give up. Money does not change luck in this gacha, so you shouldn't try to push it if your luck is dried out.
Myst was smart at 3:28 for seeing that his luck was dry and should have stopped rolling, so shame on the Twitch chat, especially the Cheerers and donors, for pushing him to more after that point. I know you want to please your audience for content, but at the same time they should be willing to understand when the streamer needs to stop rolling (a lot sooner than this chat did), that their donations/cheers can be used toward the next new Servants (Summer 6 should be announced soon, right?).
The new Oh Noooo into a siren is both a blessing in its' humor, but a curse of things to come. I am sorry, Myst
i was thinking
maybe the Judge who decides that USO system was all it takes for DW to evade Gambling Law either needs to play this game personally
or see a compilation of the horrid rolls, the descent of it's streamer to sunk-cost-falalcy and ask himself was USO system really liable.
Thanks for the reminder Myst and good luck in your final quest for NP5 Okita summer.
wow... you have lost weight...
Man im sorry Myst, hope you get luckier on your next banner. Im looking forward to spending on Gssr but outside of that imma keep my walled locked
I remember rolling for oberon in NA and managed to got him under 20 tickets, you have no idea how surprised i was.
I would literally deinstall the game
And lost everything
damn. Myst was so happy in the begining of the video, but at the end tho...
just imagining when you editing this video, the despair comes twice
The video that made FGO get pity
Myst is now a priest, purifying our souls from salt and sharing his wisdom through this video
This was very very painful to watch, good luck on your future banners :')
man i seriously thought you were gonna get him in the end and i was just waiting, man
At least it wasn't his own money, poor ari
‘5*s don’t exist’ me during this ENTIRE YEAR until dantes showed up
Poor Myst, don't worry, summer rolls shall be blessed
Either myst got an ex luck or myst luck, there are no between...
Sometimes gacha fucks you royally and nothing to be done about it - i am still mad about my godjuna summons where i barely got 1 copy of him and 1 copy of Asvvathaman in 1400+ sq,it also left me broke for a while(
I got him with 90 quartz and 5 tickets, he showed up with my last ticket.
Now I see this and I really feel bad about the people who spend so much money in fgo without even having a pity system.
When I wanted Percival, he came with 300 quartz, like bruh, can it be more difficult getting a 4* than a 5*? Really? Man
Someday we'll get a pity system, hopefully
Never
I don't think DW will ever include a pity system. But, if they *actually* do, feel free to correct me.
When the pretender is not born yesterday over the lookout 😳
Bruh people crying in the comment section about the game not having a pity system while spending dogsht amount of money to get one ssr. Speak with you actions not words but in this game generally the people who speak are salty or f2p players cuz the whales of the fgo community doesnt have any way of expressing themselves it seems. They just keep spending and spending without raising their heads and look around to see whats going on in general. Like this guy
Gambling addiction is one hell of a habit to kick
I can feel the pain, i used my 600 sq and 60 tickets on musashi berserker banner and got only 4 stars
Oh man! This is really bad
... Not even Anastasia did spook you...
My worst was the Summer Abby banner. I sunk quartz after quartz and I only got a 4 star and I saw enough CEs for the rest of my life...
Recently, my JP luck seems to be awesome: 5 tix + 1 multi: Koyan... 5 tix + 1 multi: Oberon...
Pog banner tbh. 8 tix were enough to pull him. And i sacrificed 3 more tix as a thanking. so i can get something good next.
Man, now i feel bad about getting him after watching this.
This year's supply of copium must've been used by plush and myth in this month. After seeing this I'll only save for melusine and Morgan
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the reason pity timer is an endless dream. They get more money this way
That's pretty sad to be completely honest. I wish you better luck on future banners
Maybe we will get on 7th anniversary 7 is a known to be a lucky number
Newer player here, bless the pity system. I nearly died when watching this
1:44 "if i get one Oberon immediately done".
seing as the video is almost half an hour long, i'm guessing you didn't get him lol
Procs to the donation guy for giving like 300+ dollars and still nothing
Myst, you fool! Have you not learned from Assassin Li!?
Did you know... Thanos did the SNAP on Myst's account on removing 5-stars.
I summoned as I was watching the video, then stood up to pick the phone and I came back to a Pretender Class card...
Leaving the game gives luck I guess
My one roll got me the new KScope CE, I ended up laughing, but I wasn't too mad!
Videos like these help me kill the urge to roll. My f2p ass can't afford the salt.
Didn't watch yet, but I already can feel a big OOF. Sumanai, Myst.
I remember when Myst said he was strictly F2P on JP aside from GSSRs
Well, I still don't spend my own money besides GSSRs so that's still pretty much true. I'm not gonna say no if some nice and generous viewers wanna help out.
@@MystFGO I think in that situation what you do is spend it on your NA account.
Spending money, anyone's money, on JP sends the message to DW that it's okay to never implement a pity system. If their wallet on the JP side gets hurt a bit, then they might bite the bullet just to keep people rolling.
On NA it's different. I whale on that simply to keep them from dropping the game altogether like what was done to Magia Record.
@@MystFGO Ooh all the packs were from viewers. You have quite the following along with me myst. Love the vids
I've actually heard about this back then... Holy cow... This may have been the reason they put a pity system...
dude, after this video, i changed my mind about being totally pissed off about wasting 210sq on musashi banner and not getting her.
At that time, there was no 330 roll guarantee system.
I was gonna say that at least you got him in the end without spending any of your own money but jesus christ man I'm sorry for your loss
He didn't get him in the video tho
@@lerickboor4702 exactly, it was a lot worse than I thought
Looks like plushie isnt the unluckiest anymore
Watching Myst slowly falling in despair is just too painful. FGO's rates are indeed bad civilization.
If I had not seen this I would have continued but after seeing this I understand this banner is cursed and I will stop while I have sanity
I feel u (not too much Bc i spended so much but i got him ) , don't let at the game to ruin your days , bc i know sometimes Is so damn painful , gl if u wanna pull more