" this watch has inspired heated, dumb debates.... and I like that!" great line. By the way, your channel is quickly turning into one of my favorite watch content channels. Your background colors and crisp images are terrific! keep it up
Im giving serious thoughts to picking one up (and black or white is another dilemma) and my only hesitation is the bracelet and the slightly thick case given its dimensions
Hell,no. Not even close. Daytona is slimmer, better performing, more durable and reliable. Better design, better clasp, better finishing. It ain't worth $30k-$40k for no reason
@@sultanr932 it's not worth 30-40k, it's only trading at that because every rolex is overhyped and inflated as fuck right now, also no they do not have a better movement
Hands down - the best video review of this piece so far. Also hands down my favorite watch UA-cam channel. I think I am subscribed under 2 or 3 different UA-cam accounts . . .
That watch is incredible. It crushes the Daytona and the Speedmaster. "...a bracelet that ages like a chain smoker in the desert." I have to work that into a sentence today.
A well balanced review - enjoyed it - thank you! It’s a ‘maybe’ for me, and it appeals more than the Daytona (I’ve owned one of those a long time back) precisely because it isn’t a Daytona. I think Zenith and Rolex appeal to very different watch buyers.
I tried this watch on and it’s very light and wears beautifully on wrist. I do love the Daytona but the Rolex brand has become unobtainium as in how high the prices go on the second market, and forget about getting anything at retail at an AD. Arguably Zenith is the more OG brand that makes better watches than the Rolex. This white dial I think is worth the price to true watch enthusiasts who truly enjoy the craftsmanship of some of the best timekeeping instruments. I will seriously consider adding this to my collection!
I like the colors of the backgrounds in your videos, keep going like this. Zenith A384, A385, A3818, etc... 37mm tonneau shaped cases deserve more credits, post some contents about them.
I tried the black version on yesterday… a 41mm chunk of ceramic and metal hasn’t caused my heart to race this much since… well… ever! I dig it. The brand history. The exclusivity (they only make 15000 el primeros a year!). The movement. The stunning visual interest. I think I’m in trouble… 😬
I just found your channel after being a watch nerd for 1 year. 🙄 Your humorous videos make this hobby easy. I wonder why they are not as popular as some others. Maybe you are JLC of watch videos. I bet other youtube watch reviewers watch your videos.
I ordered the black dial and way to go making me rethink my choice! Fortunately, I have a 38mm A386 with white dial to fall back on when black is too much. Mine will live the "polyamorous strap lifestyle" as well. I ordered with the bracelet, but that's just because I always do that. I really appreciated the images on the straps, nobody has done that yet and it really helps. Thanks!
New subscriber, just saw you on Bruce Williams. Really enjoyed this review. Thank you for waiting until you got the watch in your hands before commenting on it. It's the main problem I had with previous reviews.
Great video, thanks... I'm not a fan of Rolex in general, although I own 2... but I don't own a Zenith yet... this will likely be my next watch purchase.
Another awesome video, I really like your advice and thoughts. Keep up the great work. Thanks for not getting caught up in the DUMB debates. Stay safe.😷
Great review, and I wholeheartedly agree with pretty much everything. If a Daytona would show up in the mail today, I'd wear the hell out of it. But when you consider everything, this is a better looking watch, and Zenith's movement improvements only bolster that opinion. That's why I ordered one. :) It may be a couple weeks until mine finally arrives, though. Well done!
It's a beautiful watch and I love it.... But totally agree with you on the bracelet and clasp. I'd also add that for $10k I would expect the movement to have heat blue screws etc..... Not just painted blue.
@@gmshadowtraders no I don't ...a mass produced machine made watch. It's a classic design, the bracelet is one of the best, and white gold indices is good....but people have lost their heads paying way over retail for them. Would take this Zenith.
I find the piece ticks many boxes and looks great! I would definitely buy this pre owned in a few years due to Zenith's brand equity. I think it will be able to quite a bit less than now
@@lipinglin1994 wow that's quick. If it's already 20% off new I can imagine pre owned it will fall even further. I feel like the 10k is somewhat justified but that this well fall to 6k pre owned
@@UnseenHero Yes. Probably even further as the stainless steel bracelet will go super scratched. I wouldn't care because if it saves me money the condition of the watch is not on the top of my list (means I have more bargaining power to purchase something in a more practical manner).
@@lipinglin1994ah ok sure. Even now, years later you can barely get them that cheap used on random grey market websites. No chance they came out 20% off right out the door. This watch has been _extremely_ popular ever since it was released.
Nice video showcasing a utilitarian chronograph with some chutzpah. I agree about the bracelet - damn scratch magnet. Had to laugh at the analogy comparing the bracelet to a chain smoker aging in the desert. Redo the bracelet with more scratch resistance and quick adjustment like Rolex/Omega/Glashutte Original sport models and you'll have a near-perfect sport-chrono IMO and at a reasonable price-point.
I can't agree more about why a steel sports watch should come with a polished bracelet. You nailed it. I put my sports watches on non metal bracelets/straps and USE them. Otherwise, I would feel like I would need to be careful with it and that would be a miserable existence that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
I had both the Rolex Daytona white dial and this Zentona white dial watches side by side last week, the Rolex Daytona feels and looks like a way, way, WAY better watch, the Zentona is not even in the same ballpark to be honest, with the Zentona I felt like I was handling a better built cheap Tag chronograph, not a $10K watch. It's very hard to be able to evaluate this with photos, you have to handle the pieces to really understand the difference.
@@cashinhand I have handled a Daytona modified by Artisans de Geneve. That's a high-end atelier specializes in modification. However, it still didn't impress me too much. I would say Daytona isn't my thing.
@@cashinhand have you checked out the Elprimero's from earlier years without exhibition backs? I don't want Rolex in my collection. I have a strange feeling they are some sort of Gvt ploy. I could nearly hear a submariner a friend was wearing from across a table we were drinking at. I'm not convinced Rolex is worth the prices ATM. I'd rather JLC Reverso on a bracelet. But I understand the aesthetics of Rolex and if you love them and have the cash - go for it. Would you go two tone Daytona?
There is something about the second hand going 1/10 of a second that makes me anxious... im getting old, as everybody... but that makes me feel that time is going too fast.
It's a beautiful watch. I see the similarity between the Zenith and Daytona, but it's not close enough. These are two distinct watches. I personally prefer the Daytona and don't think I'd be satisfied with the Zenith, although it's very attractive.
What's a banger chrono stainless with a display back case? I love this watch but it's not in my price range until I rob my local casino. Very sub par bracelet.
You can get it at 20% at some ADs. They are mass-produced models. Probably even cheaper to 50% off 2 years after when the first batch of them have their warranty expired second hand.
If I was ever to buy this watch it would be preowned at way under retail in a couple of years from now. Zenith watches do not retain value well, this is good for us watch enthusiasts, let another one take the big hit and buy pre-owned for a deep discount. I wish I could say the same about the Rolex Daytona that is now going for over twice its retail price.
I have to agree. I’m a big fan of the original Zenith El Primero 38mm but I’d never buy it new. But then again, at current prices I’d never buy a Rolex either. A Daytona has never done it for me but I have always loved the Hulk and I also like the new Cermit/Starbucks. But I’m more likely to get an Omega Seamaster 300 Master Coaxial...again second hand
Great watch and grand video. But the scratches are looks not good. That’s the big problem. The Klasp looks cheap. For me in the price range ist the watch a little bit too expensive
Agree, I would take this over the Daytona. I’m not into the Daytona hype machine, but I’m not Rolex hater either. I would just prefer a batgirl over Daytona
A bit too close in price to the Zenith Defy El Primero 21, which is a technological masterpiece, with 2 escapements and 1 / 100th of a second chronograph.
It sort of bugs me too. I think I would have preferred it at the six indicie like Omega does. But I'd still rather have it where Zenith put it vs no date at all like the Daytona.
Much more interesting of a timepiece! Tired of the Rolex Fan Boys.....this far exceeds the Daytona in all facets (you'd expect Rolex could at least line up their sub dials straight!)
I LOVE Zeniths and have been an advocate for them for years, way before this recent surge of people noticing the Defy and this new Chronomaster, but at $10,000 for this Sport, it’s a no thank you from me. We’ll see what the AD discounts are
I tried it on. The piece is perfect for small sizes too! The guys at Zenith really consider this to be an all-rounder for all kinds of sizes wrist and people, Men or Women, Watch snobs or regular people. The only two flaws I can find on this watch is the 10th Dot over the 12 markers. At an angle it is not aligned. I think this might be due to carving. The other flaw is the solid end link. Yikes! Get that GAP out of the way!
I never wear a watch with complications I don't use pity for me. So I'm not into chronos.... This chronomaster could well be the first watch to make me break that rule.
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" this watch has inspired heated, dumb debates.... and I like that!"
great line. By the way, your channel is quickly turning into one of my favorite watch content channels. Your background colors and crisp images
are terrific! keep it up
Glad to see this up so soon after discussing with Bruce yesterday. Also, the music is really giving me Celeste vibes. Great video, as always Eric!
Absolute stunner with a superior movement! Love this piece! Great review!!!
Better than a Daytona IMHO. I do really like the Daytona as well.
Im giving serious thoughts to picking one up (and black or white is another dilemma) and my only hesitation is the bracelet and the slightly thick case given its dimensions
Hell,no. Not even close. Daytona is slimmer, better performing, more durable and reliable. Better design, better clasp, better finishing. It ain't worth $30k-$40k for no reason
@@sultanr932 zenith has better movement. Looks better. Etc. Daytona is liked because of marketing and branding.
@@sultanr932 it's not worth 30-40k, it's only trading at that because every rolex is overhyped and inflated as fuck right now, also no they do not have a better movement
@@ComicalSatania yeah. I meant costs*
Great video, thank you. This Zenith is a compelling watch. I hope it's a big success.
Very nicely shot video! and you brought out the beauty of this watch~
Great showcase of a beautiful watch!
Hands down - the best video review of this piece so far.
Also hands down my favorite watch UA-cam channel. I think I am subscribed under 2 or 3 different UA-cam accounts . . .
I cannot believe I lived this long and just found out Newmans Own was founded by Paul Newman.. Thanks man
Same
Beautiful Piece, I would pick this watch over any other Chrono, Excellent video, congrats !!
Thanks for coming on Bruce’s livestream yesterday. Great review as always here 👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks! That was a lot of fun.
Nice video. Thank you for sharing. I bought this watch 2 weeks ago, I love it.
That may have been the best video I’ve seen on this watch. Thanks I’ll be back!😊
Gorgeous video as always loved it.
Simply beautiful. Speechless.
That watch is incredible. It crushes the Daytona and the Speedmaster. "...a bracelet that ages like a chain smoker in the desert." I have to work that into a sentence today.
A well balanced review - enjoyed it - thank you! It’s a ‘maybe’ for me, and it appeals more than the Daytona (I’ve owned one of those a long time back) precisely because it isn’t a Daytona. I think Zenith and Rolex appeal to very different watch buyers.
I'm always impressed by the production of the videos, but the writing here in particular was stellar.
Bro, what for a nice video, with so pretty views! Great, really great! Thanks for that! I Love this Watch!
very thoughtful and great review. Thank you!
I tried this watch on and it’s very light and wears beautifully on wrist. I do love the Daytona but the Rolex brand has become unobtainium as in how high the prices go on the second market, and forget about getting anything at retail at an AD. Arguably Zenith is the more OG brand that makes better watches than the Rolex. This white dial I think is worth the price to true watch enthusiasts who truly enjoy the craftsmanship of some of the best timekeeping instruments. I will seriously consider adding this to my collection!
Amazing video, as always!!
“If people aren’t telling you to be quiet, you’re not saying the right things”... bravo👏 I may come for the watches but I stay for the philosophy! 😀
It's a very vague statement that sounds nice to the ear but I still appreciate the effort put into these videos.
This is the best review on this watch on you tube well done
I like the colors of the backgrounds in your videos, keep going like this. Zenith A384, A385, A3818, etc... 37mm tonneau shaped cases deserve more credits, post some contents about them.
I actually think this will increase in price towards the Daytona. It's very fairly priced. Probably the best value recent luxury sport watch.
Great video. Beautiful!
I tried the black version on yesterday… a 41mm chunk of ceramic and metal hasn’t caused my heart to race this much since… well… ever! I dig it. The brand history. The exclusivity (they only make 15000 el primeros a year!). The movement. The stunning visual interest. I think I’m in trouble… 😬
I just picked up the white dial variant this week, and it fits like a glove. I love it.
Great review and great Tycho song choice.
I just found your channel after being a watch nerd for 1 year. 🙄
Your humorous videos make this hobby easy. I wonder why they are not as popular as some others.
Maybe you are JLC of watch videos. I bet other youtube watch reviewers watch your videos.
Great review of a fantastic watch!
Great vid as usual. Really funny how this watch has wound people up so much.
I ordered the black dial and way to go making me rethink my choice! Fortunately, I have a 38mm A386 with white dial to fall back on when black is too much. Mine will live the "polyamorous strap lifestyle" as well. I ordered with the bracelet, but that's just because I always do that. I really appreciated the images on the straps, nobody has done that yet and it really helps. Thanks!
How/where did you order?
@@willferrigno Horologio Las Vegas. It arrived a while back and I absolutely love this watch. I have it on an Artem sailcloth strap and it’s fantastic
Rad to see it on all the other strap variations - great work on this one homie.
Thanks, my dude.
Great video. Good job!
I'd sell half my collection to get one of these. Actually, I may. Enjoyed the vid!
Looking forward to the inaugural lume awards.
Spoiler alert: Seiko wins
New subscriber, just saw you on Bruce Williams. Really enjoyed this review. Thank you for waiting until you got the watch in your hands before commenting on it. It's the main problem I had with previous reviews.
Great video, thanks... I'm not a fan of Rolex in general, although I own 2... but I don't own a Zenith yet... this will likely be my next watch purchase.
Another awesome video, I really like your advice and thoughts. Keep up the great work. Thanks for not getting caught up in the DUMB debates. Stay safe.😷
This is a fantastic watch . Personally if it was a watch to keep and wear I would chose this over the Daytona all day long ..
Way better than a daytona!
Great review, and I wholeheartedly agree with pretty much everything. If a Daytona would show up in the mail today, I'd wear the hell out of it. But when you consider everything, this is a better looking watch, and Zenith's movement improvements only bolster that opinion. That's why I ordered one. :) It may be a couple weeks until mine finally arrives, though. Well done!
It's a beautiful watch and I love it.... But totally agree with you on the bracelet and clasp. I'd also add that for $10k I would expect the movement to have heat blue screws etc..... Not just painted blue.
Do you think the Rolex Submariner, whose movement is so embarrassingly basic they won't show it through the caseback, is any better?
@@gmshadowtraders no I don't ...a mass produced machine made watch. It's a classic design, the bracelet is one of the best, and white gold indices is good....but people have lost their heads paying way over retail for them. Would take this Zenith.
I find the piece ticks many boxes and looks great! I would definitely buy this pre owned in a few years due to Zenith's brand equity. I think it will be able to quite a bit less than now
Dealers here are offering 20% off.
@@lipinglin1994 wow that's quick. If it's already 20% off new I can imagine pre owned it will fall even further. I feel like the 10k is somewhat justified but that this well fall to 6k pre owned
@@UnseenHero Yes. Probably even further as the stainless steel bracelet will go super scratched. I wouldn't care because if it saves me money the condition of the watch is not on the top of my list (means I have more bargaining power to purchase something in a more practical manner).
@@lipinglin1994ah ok sure. Even now, years later you can barely get them that cheap used on random grey market websites. No chance they came out 20% off right out the door. This watch has been _extremely_ popular ever since it was released.
@@philorgneopolotin8762 I agree. It just shows how much better it has aged over the past two years for this model.
Quite like the black on the black rubber strap.
I´ve been watching watch reviews on youtube for the last three hours or so.... 3:58 is the first time something made laugh out loud 😂
The most controversial part of this video was calling Paul Newman’s nonprofit salad dressing company a “cookie company”
What's a "salad"?
@@YoureTerrific LOL
Nice video showcasing a utilitarian chronograph with some chutzpah. I agree about the bracelet - damn scratch magnet. Had to laugh at the analogy comparing the bracelet to a chain smoker aging in the desert. Redo the bracelet with more scratch resistance and quick adjustment like Rolex/Omega/Glashutte Original sport models and you'll have a near-perfect sport-chrono IMO and at a reasonable price-point.
Badass watch, there’s really so many differences. Black ceramic bezel and white face are the only real similarities.
ZAYTONA. And i love it!
great video
I’ve thought about getting one of these, but I think really I just want to own a 16570 Polar again.
What a beauty
holy shit ive never seen a watch sweep that fast
I can't agree more about why a steel sports watch should come with a polished bracelet. You nailed it. I put my sports watches on non metal bracelets/straps and USE them. Otherwise, I would feel like I would need to be careful with it and that would be a miserable existence that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
People like shiny stuff.🤷
How difficult is it to change the strap? I can't seem to find anything on that.
Wait until 1- 2yr let see if the watch start to look like tag heuer or l zentona
I have the watch Black dial i like it but the date is changed at 11:55 pm that's strange
Nice video. Have you measured the thickness?
Someone needs to link this video to Oisin (TTWC)
Great review! I prefer zenith over the daytona any day
Fan of tycho! nice intro song
Does the chrono minute hand snap to the minutes or does it creep slowly?
It's a slow creeper
I prefer it to ceramic Daytonas.
Yeah, I'm in your boat mate.
I had both the Rolex Daytona white dial and this Zentona white dial watches side by side last week, the Rolex Daytona feels and looks like a way, way, WAY better watch, the Zentona is not even in the same ballpark to be honest, with the Zentona I felt like I was handling a better built cheap Tag chronograph, not a $10K watch. It's very hard to be able to evaluate this with photos, you have to handle the pieces to really understand the difference.
@@cashinhand I have handled a Daytona modified by Artisans de Geneve. That's a high-end atelier specializes in modification. However, it still didn't impress me too much. I would say Daytona isn't my thing.
@@cashinhand have you checked out the Elprimero's from earlier years without exhibition backs? I don't want Rolex in my collection. I have a strange feeling they are some sort of Gvt ploy. I could nearly hear a submariner a friend was wearing from across a table we were drinking at. I'm not convinced Rolex is worth the prices ATM. I'd rather JLC Reverso on a bracelet. But I understand the aesthetics of Rolex and if you love them and have the cash - go for it.
Would you go two tone Daytona?
@@cashinhand That's discouraging to hear. The Zenith to me is a more interesting watch. Thanks for sharing.
nice
There is something about the second hand going 1/10 of a second that makes me anxious... im getting old, as everybody... but that makes me feel that time is going too fast.
It's a beautiful watch. I see the similarity between the Zenith and Daytona, but it's not close enough. These are two distinct watches. I personally prefer the Daytona and don't think I'd be satisfied with the Zenith, although it's very attractive.
Why are you letting the chrono run?
What's a banger chrono stainless with a display back case? I love this watch but it's not in my price range until I rob my local casino.
Very sub par bracelet.
You can get it at 20% at some ADs. They are mass-produced models. Probably even cheaper to 50% off 2 years after when the first batch of them have their warranty expired second hand.
If I was ever to buy this watch it would be preowned at way under retail in a couple of years from now. Zenith watches do not retain value well, this is good for us watch enthusiasts, let another one take the big hit and buy pre-owned for a deep discount. I wish I could say the same about the Rolex Daytona that is now going for over twice its retail price.
I have to agree. I’m a big fan of the original Zenith El Primero 38mm but I’d never buy it new. But then again, at current prices I’d never buy a Rolex either. A Daytona has never done it for me but I have always loved the Hulk and I also like the new Cermit/Starbucks. But I’m more likely to get an Omega Seamaster 300 Master Coaxial...again second hand
With the way things are going I think this is gonna sell more than retail in the grey market
Is it better than Daytona? No. Is it equal? Yes. And Man that movement and dial! Not to mention a useful date complication.
What about it vs the current Speedmaster?
No Vs. Both have a place in a watch collection. Two very visually different watches.
Great watch and grand video. But the scratches are looks not good. That’s the big problem. The Klasp looks cheap. For me in the price range ist the watch a little bit too expensive
I’d buy this watch in a heartbeat if it was at my dealer
They need to get rid of date window and make subdials smaller, so that they don't overlap.
You’re terrific youre terrific
7:58 hmm, I don't like the way the bracelet hinges at the lugs. looks weird.
Agree, I would take this over the Daytona. I’m not into the Daytona hype machine, but I’m not Rolex hater either. I would just prefer a batgirl over Daytona
Batgirl is such a stunning and awesome watch
Can you tell me the width of the strap please?
20mm
@@YoureTerrific Thank You ❤
A bit too close in price to the Zenith Defy El Primero 21, which is a technological masterpiece, with 2 escapements and 1 / 100th of a second chronograph.
Love the serial number: 123 456 . And yes, for some reason I was looking at the number and not the incredible movement.
Daytona killer!
First thing that comes to my mind is lack of originality, esp. reflected in the bracelet. Thumbs up for a great video.
“Chain smoker in the desert” 🥲
For $10,000, I’m gonna have to be really picky. That date window is horrid.
It sort of bugs me too. I think I would have preferred it at the six indicie like Omega does. But I'd still rather have it where Zenith put it vs no date at all like the Daytona.
The bracelet is awful for $10,000 as well. I love Zeniths but this isn’t a $10,000 watch.
@@gothops154 Have you held one in your hands? The bracelet is beautiful (from a new Submariner owner - which is the benchmark).
Much more interesting of a timepiece! Tired of the Rolex Fan Boys.....this far exceeds the Daytona in all facets (you'd expect Rolex could at least line up their sub dials straight!)
Also, I heard they are coming out with a rose gold edition for this chronometer sport. Watch out for it boys!
I LOVE Zeniths and have been an advocate for them for years, way before this recent surge of people noticing the Defy and this new Chronomaster, but at $10,000 for this Sport, it’s a no thank you from me. We’ll see what the AD discounts are
I tried it on. The piece is perfect for small sizes too! The guys at Zenith really consider this to be an all-rounder for all kinds of sizes wrist and people, Men or Women, Watch snobs or regular people. The only two flaws I can find on this watch is the 10th Dot over the 12 markers. At an angle it is not aligned. I think this might be due to carving. The other flaw is the solid end link. Yikes! Get that GAP out of the way!
I never wear a watch with complications I don't use pity for me.
So I'm not into chronos....
This chronomaster could well be the first watch to make me break that rule.
🔥
$10,000 😵
Does anyone see this watch in real?
The dial is better finished than a Daytona? Really?
Nowadays, who buys a watch to tell time?
Zenith did not have long history with automatic chronograph, Zenith (and Seiko) created THE history of Automatic Chronograph.
Well said, but don't forget Heuer also pulled shit together to get that money market for Automatic Chronographs.
The date window kills it for me. Remove the date and I'll buy one tomorrow.
Its makes me sad everytime i see a rotor in a chronograph movement
Had a look at one last week. It’s very shiny. Not very sporty