ARK 2 MISTAKE! Removed From Gamescom? New Abberation Pay To Win DLC Creature "Cosmo" A Stolen Idea?

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024

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  • @blankanonymous5214
    @blankanonymous5214 Місяць тому +24

    I don't understand how they are in debt. The power rangers mod sold almost a mil, at $10 bucks a pop. That's $10 million alone off one mod. Not counting how many copies ASA has sold, plus all the other premium mods. They should be swimming in cash.

    • @beastboy6799
      @beastboy6799 Місяць тому +6

      @@blankanonymous5214 snail games.

    • @PooPooThe3rd
      @PooPooThe3rd Місяць тому

      Because they wasted a bunch of money on animation and voice actors for the animated series then handed it to some liberal white women who ruined the story thierfor the show didn't make any money so it was just a waste of a shit ton of funds

    • @MoroNada
      @MoroNada Місяць тому +3

      Their mod download counter is actually inaccurate. I have tested this out myself with private and public mods.
      Every time someone uninstalls and reinstalls the mod, and also updates the mod, it counts as a download.
      Why do they do this? Not quite sure but I believe it has to do with marketing to inflate the “popularity” of mods in order to to attract more people into buying.
      Regardless tho, they still did make a very profitable amount off that mod alone but not as much as you think.

    • @DominoDoginater
      @DominoDoginater Місяць тому +4

      ​@blankanonymous5214 Snail Games wasted all the money that Wildcard earned.

    • @Theworldisscrewed
      @Theworldisscrewed Місяць тому +1

      Only 5 million of that goes to wildcard, your also forgetting that people who work on these games need to earn a living and so many other expenditures they have.

  • @krystenvaughn9864
    @krystenvaughn9864 Місяць тому +17

    Thank you so much for covering this issue, Maevia author here!
    For those who might want to know more about why I feel so strongly the way that I do : I'll share something I had stated before :)
    My version had shoulder pet literally written in the ideas section, as well as rideable, and even gender differentiation capabilities with the male being shoulder / female being rideable, why? Because the Ark community helped form the ideas that built it from the ground up. The extreme amount of fluff on this one is not just some coincidence or idea on a whim, real peacock jumping spiders are not even CLOSE to being that fluffy, there is a very particular fluffy jumping spider species that I referenced that from and included it in Maevia's description, Maevia was mixed with a few species of jumpers due to how big of a variety they have.
    At the end of the day, what they did was entirely legal, and ideas can be shared. Do I feel like it was a rip-off? Absolutely, popularity and appearance, but I am certainly not here to argue, it's simply the way I see it.
    A lot of people aren't aware that the jumping spider was only a hand full of votes from winning the Aberration Voting Event, it's not some coincidence they chose this... there's thousands of different jumping spiders all over the world to choose from.
    But Sovi why are you so upset, you should be grateful this creature is being put into the game!!! >:(?!?!?!?!REAWDHAUWIDHAWGH
    Well Jimmy I'll tell you the sole part that upset me about it... I was never alone when forming the artwork (even if it's my art, I incorporated imagery based on others ideas as it changed, much like what's shown in the Extinction vote artwork)- and ideas over the months behind this creature. The Ark community helped it become what it was, majority wanted a rideable jumper, so many of the ideas to contribute to the design were shared by other players, much like me and you, who wanted to see that in the game one day accessibly to all, or maybe it just wouldn't make it and that was perfectly fair! It was a massive Ark community project, as most if not all creature submissions are behind closed doors. This is what we all signed away everything we did for, just the chance to maybe get these into the game, and like the others they would be freely accessed by all. From a business perspective it was smart, take that creature due to its popularity, take it for their own, changing the name and ever so mildly appearance to avoid too much conflict because they know their fans will stick up for them, and then slap it behind a required payment in order to get access to it : That's right, profit off of it. Using your own community to do the ideas for you, figure out their popularity for you, so that you can take the work of these fans and throw it back into their faces with a price tag stuck to it to make a profit.
    Is it legal, absolutely. Is it unethical, well that's a different story in my eyes.

    • @e.littledraco1730
      @e.littledraco1730 Місяць тому +3

      @@krystenvaughn9864 You have every right to feel the way you do. They should have mentioned you or at least said in the community crunch it was highly inspired by the Jumping Spider from the creature vote. I don't get why they wouldn't as it would have been a boost for the community to see that Ark developers truly value their community. This lack of a mention feels a bit like getting handed a bouquet of flowers with a knife hidden hidden in.
      Legally, they hace the right. As a company to help support their community, it ain't right what so ever. ASA needs it's community behind it or we may never see ASA truly become the upgrade for ASE, and the steps right now they are taking are slowly loosening the support rope.

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому +1

      @@krystenvaughn9864 I am honestly surprised it's legal. But anyone with half a brain knows it's unethical what they did to you and have been continuously doing to the community that made them. You have every right to dispute and be against the betrayal and monetization of your (and the community) work

    • @grazzhopper6799
      @grazzhopper6799 Місяць тому

      not an issue, guess they cant make any creatues that have been voted

    • @therandomsaiyajin
      @therandomsaiyajin Місяць тому

      ⁠@@grazzhopper6799granted wildcard didn’t directly talk with the one behind the original spider idea but they also don’t really need to talk with them if they wanna make a little spider shoulder pet. This isn’t really too much of an issue and I feel this was just a flair up over the fact WC didn’t talk with the one who made the “concept” idea which either they did take reference from or didn’t.

    • @mesozoicstudios6061
      @mesozoicstudios6061 Місяць тому

      What you kinda lost me I mean looking at multiple species and images of peacock spiders I see fluff a lot of it in the same exact growth pattern, I don’t see the gameplay similarities either I mean there’s a lot of differences to be considered a 100% knock off seems a bit exaggerated no? If they truly wanted that creature what would have stopped them from collaborating or a simple shout out? They work with modders a lot now it’s their life line to just randomly steal a single creature with no credit isn’t really logical move, currently I’m getting reference at best stolen is bold

  • @akario973
    @akario973 Місяць тому +3

    They better not pull off the same strategy they did with ASA where they don't show shit and then just drop the trailer and game some random day. At this point I think the best thing that can happen to ark is for Snail to finally die and wildcard to get picked up by a better publisher that knows wtf they're doing.

  • @jakejones37
    @jakejones37 Місяць тому +3

    I think the biggest mistake brought to officials was the train tracks. They could’ve left it on single player.

  • @TheDutchGameCrewNL
    @TheDutchGameCrewNL Місяць тому +5

    official pve al lot bases just seem to be decaying even when people refreshed their bases.
    Happend to a friend of mine, logged in played for 5 hours and woke up to his entire base decayed. 2+ months of work gone

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому +1

      @@TheDutchGameCrewNL we had an entire base decay on the island while we were on the center for only 2 days. ( The decay messages also appear when a dev deletes your assets. So either they are just removing people for no reason or it's a big who knows)

    • @TheDutchGameCrewNL
      @TheDutchGameCrewNL Місяць тому +2

      @@AjaxSkye Its just so stupid, i was breeding my megatherium line and yuties for kibble egg. Just a random small base not close or blocking any resources. Everything just decayed and i`m so fucking done with this game.

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому

      @@TheDutchGameCrewNL I had a basilo die right in front of me after doing a fish run. He had plenty of food and the log didn't have a cause of death ... Rode another one a couple days later out to sea and it died while I was riding it. ... 😂 I am no longer raising anything that takes longer than a day to raise since it's just gonna die

  • @JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz
    @JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz Місяць тому +3

    In all fairness, its not like Wildcard has ever credited the people who suggested/made fan dossiers/made concept art for the previous vote winners. Like yeah the Maevia's popularity is what ended up being the creation to Cosmo, there is no denying that. I do understand that its very scummy to put a highly requested creature behind a payed dlc. But if we remember, Maevia aslo became a but of a controversy withing the ARK community as it unintentionally became the poster child of creatures that were in almost every creature vote (including Hatzeg, Nothosaurus, Gorgonopsid, Bastion Beetle, Sivatherium, the Cheetah, etc) thus "stealing" the spotlight of newer creature entries that actually made sense for the map, this caused major toxicity within the ARK comunity when WC kept doing Creature Vote after Creature Vote that they took a break from doing it cuz The Center was the last straw as people were bullying the people suggesting the same creatures vote after vote, thus leaving a sour taste in everyone's mouth.

  • @Irish1Eric
    @Irish1Eric Місяць тому +7

    They absolutely stole that creature. No doubt, no argument. The Wild Card/ Ark fanboys are a meme now. The delusion and blind devotion are the sheeple is mind boggling.

    • @shlingusdingus4174
      @shlingusdingus4174 Місяць тому +2

      Fr, I got into a massive agrument with multiple people who were defending Wildcard and that the creator doesn't "own Jumping spiders". That's not the problem. The problem is the design is the same, just different color palette and smaller size. As far as I'm concerned, that's not legally distinct enough to be considered its own concept. Also, Maevia is VERY well known in the community entries, so its not like its unheard of.

    • @CyPhaSaRin
      @CyPhaSaRin Місяць тому +3

      yeah but i was saying this back in 2020 lol, took ya'll long enough to join in

    • @snakemaster254
      @snakemaster254 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠I agree that they should at least say something or work with the original idea creator to add the full Maevia Eureka to aberration for free. But, as for the design comment, thats what a jumping spider looks like. Again, Snail and Wildcard should have just made another completely fantasy creature as to avoid retreading content suggested by players and selling it back to us for cash.
      I honestly imagine Snail Games is more behind the idea of making the Cosmo, than Wildcard themselves but who knows at this point, we need better communication from Wildcard and for Snail to leave so some other company can come in as publisher.

    • @JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz
      @JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz Місяць тому +1

      ​@@shlingusdingus4174 not even, I went to compare Cosmo and Maevia designs and they don't even look identical, both pattern wise and appearance wise. There's only so many ways you can even make a jumping spider design. But there is no denying that Maevia's popularity played a major part in Cosmo's creation.

    • @THELIONMAN7
      @THELIONMAN7 Місяць тому

      ​@@shlingusdingus4174at thé same time i dont like fans of something but i'm pretty sure you are an ark fan hiding

  • @somebodymcperson
    @somebodymcperson Місяць тому +1

    This game will bomb hard. They’ll do what companies always do focus on the wrong things (high priced celebs) and not the reasons people like the first one.

  • @kaptainkibiroproductions45
    @kaptainkibiroproductions45 Місяць тому +1

    when Ark Ascended is 100% finished I propose we take everything about the game and carbon copy it into another better game with a dev team composed of Disgruntled Ark Veterans.
    THAT should be the goal we build up to these next few years.

  • @FrznWstLnD
    @FrznWstLnD Місяць тому +1

    If im looking at it correct, now that nitrado is almost at its 3 yr contract, could snail be looking at another investment from nitrado to keep them in again?😢

  • @therandomsaiyajin
    @therandomsaiyajin Місяць тому +1

    Ima be honest where, the little spider, all it’s got that ‘incriminates’ them of stealing is the spider itself and the ability to stick to walls. This little guy in the actual dossier has a glowing silk which it uses to yoink items, slow animals movements I believe and it also can grapple around. If I recall the other spider was just sexually dimorphic where the males were shoulder pets with a full on bola ability and the females acted like that one jumping spider mod we got. The only incriminating thing we can really say it’s the spider itself but thing is, It’s not even the same name, yes it’s a spider but this has begun to make a mountain out of a mole hill over something this insignificant.
    The real thing people should be mad at is how wildcard have YET to actually stabilize their updates for the past few years now. In fact it’s gotten worse with ASA’s launch and they expect us to pay premium mods just to have the game break another day later and we can’t play for a few days or face the game breaking beyond repair and we lose save files? Nah screw that I’m sticking to ASE since that’s abandonware and they won’t update that anymore

  • @ManBearPig908
    @ManBearPig908 Місяць тому +2

    there is also a little CGI video series somewhere on you tube i forget what it was called but the main character is a spider and it looks almost identical to the cosmo spider. I think the name of the series is lucas the spider.

    • @WalterEKurtz-kp2jf
      @WalterEKurtz-kp2jf Місяць тому +3

      Yea man they are jumping spiders, they all look similar

    • @CyPhaSaRin
      @CyPhaSaRin Місяць тому

      @@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf i'd have to google the number of species of spider the number is that big and stupid lol, its incredible to think that someone drawing a spider is copying anyone else, if you draw a spider, it probably exists, some fk hasnt come up with it beyond what they have lol

    • @mesozoicstudios6061
      @mesozoicstudios6061 Місяць тому

      It a jumping spider a real animal congrats

  • @munchmunchpanda3331
    @munchmunchpanda3331 Місяць тому +1

    In my opinion jumping spider is a jumping spider. They have become much more popular, to the point people are keeping them as pets. Wildcard has already shown if they like a modders work they will give them credit and pay them some how. Gauruga ks the main example. They have remained humble with him and have said he has the final say in his dinos. As well as paid him. I dont see why eild card wouldnt reach out to the one suggesting the jumping spider. But again its a jumling spider. They are becoming more main stream and catergorized as cute. So it would be more of a universal idea in my opinion. And if they did steal it well then they are shite 😂.

    • @munchmunchpanda3331
      @munchmunchpanda3331 Місяць тому

      Also when did creature vote winners get paid? I always thought that the suggestions were there so wild card can look back and possibly bring the communities ideas to life when they see fit. And the most voted one just gets the 100% chance to get in the game. I suppose atleast recognition for the idea should definitely be mentioned. But suggestions are suggestions..it's not like they models and made the code for the idea. If my suggestion won I would be happy to just have it in the game and play with it to be honest it would be awesome!

  • @seangere9698
    @seangere9698 Місяць тому

    2027 ARKII finished? The original ARC SE was never finished. All they did was bring out more new stuff that is/was buggy as all h3ll. Now they give it a new title and drop new creatures that you have to pay to use, but they still show up on the map even though you can't use them.....

  • @user-ew8gq9tn7l
    @user-ew8gq9tn7l Місяць тому

    I don't believe art 2 is coming out I believe their contest was probably stolen from someone else and that's why they have not put it out yet

  • @DamienLee69
    @DamienLee69 Місяць тому

    What they SHOULD do is take the jumping mod one, put it in the game and have some of theirs follow the bigger one. Like a yuty n carno thing, just not aggressive. Problem solved.

  • @CeratoGamer
    @CeratoGamer 29 днів тому

    Chega desse assunto ,se foi roubado mesmo por que a autora não processou ainda a WC? AHHH povo chato, saudades do pessoal antigo que gravava Ark,esses sim tinham conteúdo de primeira e mais interessante do que os que se dizem UA-camrs de Ark atualmente que gravam por views

  • @user-ew8gq9tn7l
    @user-ew8gq9tn7l Місяць тому +2

    I no longer enjoy playing ark it sucks

  • @lux.022
    @lux.022 Місяць тому +1

    okay i don’t think it’s fair that they ‘stole’ the spider - people have been asking for years to get that spider in all fairness

    • @Jedi_Wookiee
      @Jedi_Wookiee Місяць тому

      people haven't been asking for years, it failed every creature vote it went in.

  • @thethrashers9084
    @thethrashers9084 Місяць тому +2

    Honestly if you ever think about creating anything involves being part of something popular (DC, MARVEL, ARK, STAR WARS, ECT.) they own the rights to take your ideas and post it as their own so that's your fault.

  • @CosmicDragonApocalypse
    @CosmicDragonApocalypse Місяць тому +2

    Look lets look at facts. Wildcard asked for suggestions. The one who came up with the maevia offered it snd they took it. Simple as that. Its no different than the yi ling or even the carcha

    • @JadePG2
      @JadePG2  Місяць тому +3

      But recognition is at least deserved no? The winner of the votes got that at least so why not others?

    • @snakemaster254
      @snakemaster254 Місяць тому +1

      @@JadePG2agreed, we should get some recognition for the original creators, maybe at least a note in the credits, or some sort of credit in the dossier for these people would be nice.

    • @CosmicDragonApocalypse
      @CosmicDragonApocalypse Місяць тому

      @JadePG2 shasta guy complained he wasn't credited either....but that could be misinformation idk. But maybe you are right about the recognition

    • @snakemaster254
      @snakemaster254 Місяць тому +1

      @@CosmicDragonApocalypseSince when Wildcard adds these vote creatures they have to go through a lot of the design process themselves at Wildcard, meaning the vote submission is mostly just an inspiration for the final creature, I imagine the best kind of credit that could be given is at least a mention of the original creator in the dossier, maybe something like the creator having canonically helped Helena document the creature.
      After all Wildcard does do most of the work with the concept afterwards, sometimes to the point of entirely butchering it like the Yi Qi, so the credit for making the final product does go to them, but at least a mention of the original submitters could be a nice way to give back to the community.

    • @CosmicDragonApocalypse
      @CosmicDragonApocalypse Місяць тому +1

      @snakemaster254 true but ive grown to expect not receiving credit. But at the end of the day, what does it matter? Its just a game, and i love it.

  • @andrewmcgoblin4016
    @andrewmcgoblin4016 Місяць тому +2

    I agree with the people saying Ark 2 doesn’t exist or is the animated series part 2

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому

      I have believed since the beginning when all of the ASE/ASA bs happened Ark2 wont exist. I will very openly admit i was wrong if it does. But i have lost all optimism on it.

    • @THELIONMAN7
      @THELIONMAN7 Місяць тому

      ​@@AjaxSkyeark 2 does exist

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому

      @@THELIONMAN7 if you count ASA as number 2 then yeah. If not show me number 2

    • @THELIONMAN7
      @THELIONMAN7 Місяць тому

      @@AjaxSkye trailers ?

    • @AjaxSkye
      @AjaxSkye Місяць тому

      @@THELIONMAN7 So you equate a trailer to proof of existence? What?

  • @IAMCAM28
    @IAMCAM28 Місяць тому

    Ark 2 should not have been announced its Been 4 years...

  • @trebelution
    @trebelution Місяць тому

    If Ark 2 does come out this year, we must come together and protest by not buying the game. We cannot let this continue

    • @THELIONMAN7
      @THELIONMAN7 Місяць тому +1

      I Hope ark 2 releases this year cry harder

  • @fuzzy8593
    @fuzzy8593 Місяць тому

    Steampunk adventure pack!? 😂
    Is that really where we are with Ark?
    Steampunk adventure pack…

  • @Jedi_Wookiee
    @Jedi_Wookiee Місяць тому +1

    They made their creature an actual mod so what do you want. if wildcard did it the would have butchered it from what the original creator wanted and then more whining would be happening. Its a spider and sorry but a spider can only be so different.
    Btw i am critical on ark and some of the stuff they do but there is a difference between complaining about bad shit and then just whinging

    • @JadePG2
      @JadePG2  Місяць тому +1

      In this instance teh idea and finished product are petty similar, as said all it would have taken was "hey great idea we may still add this in future" and I am just reporting how the original idea for the maeva felt, it's just unethical not illegal

  • @austinian1598
    @austinian1598 Місяць тому

    Fk ark 2 they can’t even focus on one game getting fixed correctly

  • @worldgate989
    @worldgate989 Місяць тому

    is this dawn of defiance have anything to do with wc/snail? i dont buy modder games from the simps who work at wildcard

  • @IlRyuulI
    @IlRyuulI Місяць тому

    Can you make a new vid on commands (console)

  • @r.hughes5737
    @r.hughes5737 Місяць тому

    I doubt I’ll even still be playing games in 2027 that’s 3 whole years away

  • @looneybinsin5971
    @looneybinsin5971 Місяць тому +3

    honestly i don't really care about ark anymore just waiting to see what they do with ARK 2 this paying for dinos is ass

    • @FilthEffect
      @FilthEffect Місяць тому +2

      You shouldn't care about ark 2 either tbh

    • @looneybinsin5971
      @looneybinsin5971 Місяць тому

      @@FilthEffect i do dream a lot but yeah

    • @CyPhaSaRin
      @CyPhaSaRin Місяць тому

      @@looneybinsin5971 lol ay! so me.
      I got no faith in Ark 2, i'm half MJ eating popcorn half hoping to be wrong.

    • @michellepainter9057
      @michellepainter9057 Місяць тому

      Yeah throwing devs a few bucks every few months is so ass. The absolute audacity of charging for work while we praise modders who played around with the dev kit for a few hours and give them money for unfinished work is WAY better.

    • @looneybinsin5971
      @looneybinsin5971 Місяць тому

      @@michellepainter9057 i would rather pay for cosmetics and DLC than paying for a dino not everyone can get especially game changing mechanics or items why not add a nuclear launcher that you got to pay for and reward them for adding P2W mechanics screw those poor gamers that don't work hard enough disgusting peasants

  • @ryaquaza3offical
    @ryaquaza3offical Місяць тому +1

    Still hate how it’s a shoulder pet in a DLC full of shoulder pets, this truly isn’t the Maevia we wanted
    They really did just steal it to make it worse

    • @mesozoicstudios6061
      @mesozoicstudios6061 Місяць тому

      It’s literally not even the same creature not a single similarity besides it’s a spider lol you are not getting maevia

  • @inker.jrcalimari4704
    @inker.jrcalimari4704 Місяць тому

    Irdk why yall acting new ark has ALWAYS been pay2win

  • @JanderStrahd
    @JanderStrahd Місяць тому +1

    I got A:SE during a free week and A:SA for the double discount during the Summer Sale. I'm looking forward to never spending more than that twenty-something dollars on ARK until they've either made something *amazing* and at a great value, or have completely dropped Snail Games and are stable as a developed product for a considerable amount of time. Under no circumstance could I be induced to give them ideas to do their own work.

  • @NoxStill_Wez
    @NoxStill_Wez Місяць тому

    Phuck ark in general. They destroyed the game. Ark Evolved was the best, they had something good which they could of improved on. Its mainly streamers trying to play it and keep it going but if you watch any of them, they losing interest. If Ark 2 is supposedly coming out, we all know ase won't get support anymore. Ark died when ase was released.

  • @Muddysmind
    @Muddysmind Місяць тому

    Scummy companies doing scummy things.

  • @rickycoyan8602
    @rickycoyan8602 Місяць тому

    Gg😊

  • @fruitbatcat
    @fruitbatcat Місяць тому

    oOo First!

  • @snip3r416
    @snip3r416 Місяць тому

    Let’s gooo sum ark news 🗞️