True, but silicone rubber is only one of several rubbers used. This was very interesting, as you will see details done differently at different bronze foundries. It is the best job ever.
Your reply added no significance to his statement. The point being, they were incorrect in their video. And what exactly is “the best job ever”? Goodness, your comment triggered me. 🤦🏻
How does this method relate to the Benin Bronze tradition - one of the world's great Bronze making traditions and also something of which the British Museum has a lot.
The basic technique, the lost wax technique, has been used since antiquity. The Benin bronzes were cast in essentially the same manner. However, the modern technique uses silicone for the negative mold which is able to capture much greater detail. This means that tiny details (like individual hair strands, fingerprints, or fine jewelry) don't have to be engraved in after the cast. The Benin bronzes would have been gone over by an engraver after the bronze had fully cooled to add these kinds of tiny details. Even Rodin would likely have had to do some of this for the hair on his statues.
Not to crap on Charles, but you just said exactly what the video said which won't help Jim. Jim - The original is made in clay, then they make a negative cast of that in silicone, like casting someones face in silicone, or a body part. Once the silicone cast is complete they then pour hot wax into the silicone which leaves a wax positive cast. The wax is the core you use to cast with because you can coat it in ceramic and then heat the ceramic causing the wax to pour out leaving a cavity of desired dimensions and shape left for the hot bronze to be poured into. Hope that helps.
No, the liquid rubber is poured over the clay sculpture, then when it is set, it is covered by a removable jacket, usually plaster or fiberglass, which keeps the rubber in place. Then the clay original is removed, leaving a hollow rubber form. which is where the wax is poured into.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 Yes, but you forgot one point that those who know nothing about mold making usually find hard to wrap their heads around until it is pointed out. And that is, that when the rubber is set, and the jacket is applied, the mold is then taken apart and the clay removed. Then the mold is cleaned of any residual clay, reassembled, and the wax poured in.
The type of clay isn't that important as long as it is sulfur-free. Sulfur messes with the silicone on a chemical level so it won't set right. Oil based clay is popular for stuff like this since it doesn't dry out and you can spend days or months working on it. Water based clay would work fine too though as long as you keep it moist.
You skipped the whole part from the sculpted clay to suddenly using a silicon mould that has wax pured in it. How to make that mould?? Useless video :/
Interesting to see the process, but terrible artwork. Why do you bother to cast this crap in bronze in the first place? I learned to sculpt, to create the moulds. to cast bronze, to apply the patina, so I do know what I am talking about and this "sculpture" was just the beginning of a three-year-learning process, absolutely no need spend time and money on casting it in bronze. And BTW: Rodin didn't use sodium silicate moulds.
Wow, such arrogance is,really inappropriate. Everyone, students, hobbyists, all like to see their work in bronze. It may not live up to your ridiculous standards, but if someone wants to have their “masterpiece” in bronze, who the hell are you to say it’s inappropriate. You say you know what you’re talking about, well so do I, and I call bs on your ego tripping. Believe me, “absolutely no need” for it.
@@aliceharvey1226 Actually you are right to call me out. The video shows (one) way how bronce casts are made and does a very good job. It doesn't matter what "quality" the art work might be. I don't even remember having commented this video, this was 2 years ago and of course I don't remember what mood made me leave the comment. This gives me even more of a head scratch as I almost never comment... Out of curiosity: what made you read the comments in the first place? (Although I *left* a comment, I never *read* the comments...)
If you are in fact a artist and know what you are doing then instead of shitting on other peoples artwork and ideas you should help with constructive criticism rather than being a douchebag. Does that make sense? Why would you hate when you can Uplift one another?
For, Bronze Castings. Do I need to belong to SAG or AFTRA? What? This is a different kind of casting? Aren't they hiring? What the hell kind of casting is this? I thought I could find work here? While there seem to be very few people, cast? Where did they all go? Are they getting of these people are Casting, anything? Do you see anybody working? No. They are all on break. So where can I go where there's some real Casting? I need work. I need to be on stage. RemyRAD
In case anyone's not familiar with the process and would like to find out more, it's usually known as the "lost wax method", or "investment casting"
This guy does it in his DRIVEWAY at home. Not sure who he is.. ;-P ua-cam.com/channels/uYrxLwT9hWwDIX7a4x9ZWg.html?view_as=subscriber
Thank you for sharing...
something leonardo da vinci had started in the renaissance period
@@satoru.nakata actually dates back to The south asian Chola empire
Really intersting process, but weird choice of music to go with it.
felt the same at the beginning but it seemed fitting by the end
I liked it
It sounds like something I'd hear at an oddball art studio for sure lol
This is really cool, I always wondered how they were able to have do much detail in metal!
Should have done one of Irving Finkel.
It’s an amazing process.
Knowing that ancient Romans or Greeks were using this method thousands of years ago is just mindblowing...
Wow. That is some process!
New plan: spray clay with bronze paint
That mold material is silicone, not silicon. The British Museum should know the difference.
True, but silicone rubber is only one of several rubbers used. This was very interesting, as you will see details done differently at different bronze foundries. It is the best job ever.
Your reply added no significance to his statement. The point being, they were incorrect in their video. And what exactly is “the best job ever”? Goodness, your comment triggered me. 🤦🏻
I wish this exchange was longer.
How does this method relate to the Benin Bronze tradition - one of the world's great Bronze making traditions and also something of which the British Museum has a lot.
This is also how the Benin bronzes were made. The method has been in use since antiquity.
The basic technique, the lost wax technique, has been used since antiquity. The Benin bronzes were cast in essentially the same manner. However, the modern technique uses silicone for the negative mold which is able to capture much greater detail. This means that tiny details (like individual hair strands, fingerprints, or fine jewelry) don't have to be engraved in after the cast. The Benin bronzes would have been gone over by an engraver after the bronze had fully cooled to add these kinds of tiny details. Even Rodin would likely have had to do some of this for the hair on his statues.
Beautiful
thank you
Wait but so your telling me that the Egyptians had machines as part of the process of making these statues?? I'm missing something here now
0:31 You lost me at the silicone mold. Is the silicone poured into the dried clay?
Not to crap on Charles, but you just said exactly what the video said which won't help Jim. Jim - The original is made in clay, then they make a negative cast of that in silicone, like casting someones face in silicone, or a body part. Once the silicone cast is complete they then pour hot wax into the silicone which leaves a wax positive cast. The wax is the core you use to cast with because you can coat it in ceramic and then heat the ceramic causing the wax to pour out leaving a cavity of desired dimensions and shape left for the hot bronze to be poured into. Hope that helps.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 Thank you.
No, the liquid rubber is poured over the clay sculpture, then when it is set, it is covered by a removable jacket, usually plaster or fiberglass, which keeps the rubber in place. Then the clay original is removed, leaving a hollow rubber form. which is where the wax is poured into.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 Yes, but you forgot one point that those who know nothing about mold making usually find hard to wrap their heads around until it is pointed out. And that is, that when the rubber is set, and the jacket is applied, the mold is then taken apart and the clay removed. Then the mold is cleaned of any residual clay, reassembled, and the wax poured in.
@@aliceharvey1226 thank you. This is what I was wondering.
What did they use before silicon? A plaster mold?
Sometimes plaster is still used. Also we’ve used latex, and some others I am not sure of the make up.
Help,, what is the brand of ceramic powder, any reccomendation??
Does anyone know what is the type of clay used here? Thank you in advance.
The type of clay isn't that important as long as it is sulfur-free. Sulfur messes with the silicone on a chemical level so it won't set right. Oil based clay is popular for stuff like this since it doesn't dry out and you can spend days or months working on it. Water based clay would work fine too though as long as you keep it moist.
Starring Han Solo
Oh, they've encased him in carbonite, he should be quite well protected.
0:25 lol They skipped an entire step.
Why the 🟧⬛ theme
I still don't understand. Obviously I am stupid or the video is poorly made.
Han solo aaah
Poor Dwayne wade
Han Solo left the chat
missed the most important step: step 1!!!! why???
Why keep colonial and stolen works, if you can do it yourself 🖖
You skipped the whole part from the sculpted clay to suddenly using a silicon mould that has wax pured in it. How to make that mould?? Useless video :/
Interesting to see the process, but terrible artwork.
Why do you bother to cast this crap in bronze in the first place?
I learned to sculpt, to create the moulds. to cast bronze, to apply the patina, so I do know what I am talking about and this "sculpture" was just the beginning of a three-year-learning process, absolutely no need spend time and money on casting it in bronze.
And BTW: Rodin didn't use sodium silicate moulds.
Wow, such arrogance is,really inappropriate. Everyone, students, hobbyists, all like to see their work in bronze. It may not live up to your ridiculous standards, but if someone wants to have their “masterpiece” in bronze, who the hell are you to say it’s inappropriate. You say you know what you’re talking about, well so do I, and I call bs on your ego tripping. Believe me, “absolutely no need” for it.
@@aliceharvey1226 Actually you are right to call me out. The video shows (one) way how bronce casts are made and does a very good job. It doesn't matter what "quality" the art work might be.
I don't even remember having commented this video, this was 2 years ago and of course I don't remember what mood made me leave the comment. This gives me even more of a head scratch as I almost never comment...
Out of curiosity: what made you read the comments in the first place? (Although I *left* a comment, I never *read* the comments...)
If you are in fact a artist and know what you are doing then instead of shitting on other peoples artwork and ideas you should help with constructive criticism rather than being a douchebag. Does that make sense? Why would you hate when you can Uplift one another?
@@stevejuneau2395 uplift for what exactly? That the cast went ok? That nobody was hurt?
For, Bronze Castings. Do I need to belong to SAG or AFTRA?
What? This is a different kind of casting? Aren't they hiring? What the hell kind of casting is this?
I thought I could find work here? While there seem to be very few people, cast? Where did they all go? Are they getting of these people are Casting, anything? Do you see anybody working? No. They are all on break.
So where can I go where there's some real Casting? I need work. I need to be on stage.
RemyRAD